Re: Micro Fiche Library.

2016-10-12 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 04/10/16 05:49, Rod Smallwood wrote: Hi All I have just had a huge DEC Miro Fiche library given to me. It has the portable (weighs a ton) reader with it. On trying it out. I found the results were awful. A good clean of the light path and removal of some disintegrating foam

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:37:33PM -0700, Zane Healy wrote: > > PDP-11: > Pac-Man (cool to see on a VT) > Where could I get a hold of this? /P

RE: Remember Data Printer Corp?

2016-10-12 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Paul Koning Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:09 AM > Speaking of printer widths, the Dutch computer company Electrologica was > odd in that their systems came with line printers that were 144 columns > wide. I've never seen that anywhere else. The IBM 1443 printer, originally part of

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [

2016-10-12 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:23:35AM -0500, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Adam Sampson wrote: > > > > > On the Amiga, our favourites included: Lemmings (two mice), Stunt Car > > Racer (serial link), Gravity Power, Blob Kombat, Space Taxi, XTreme > >

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:57:13PM -0500, Adrian Stoness wrote: > > Oils well Oil's Well is great on the C64. /P

Re: Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread ethan
I found an interface I've never seen, a Fisher Rosemont Highway interface. I don't know much in the history of Dec / VMS, but am guessing this is for Vax system only. HIGHWAY-INTERFACE-49A8569X052-62-FISHER-ROSEMOUNT-DC6450X1-HA5-40B1745-W-CABKIT-/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/371645465846 I

Video clip from ABC Nightline 1981 with Steve Jobs

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
If you read further, I decided to post because of the number of machines I've either worked on or owned which were in this. I think for instance the terminals @ about 1:29 are Datamedia. I had several of the beasts. "Academic researchers... is the narration" https://youtu.be/3H-Y-D3-j-M

Re: Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread Fred Cisin
Could Traf-o-data be revived?

Re: 11/35 on eBait

2016-10-12 Thread Glen Slick
On Oct 2, 2016 11:03 AM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: > > So there's another 11/35 up on eBait: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/142135416325 > Went unsold at $3500. Relisted, this time at $5000. Buy it this time before it goes up to $6500 next time???

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [

2016-10-12 Thread Jerry Kemp
For anyone interested in exploring some of this stuff further, I (first) found lots of dead links, but came up with this one with binaries for Sun, SGI and the original NeXT format. I still have a SparcStation 10 + a Leo/ZX frame buffer that I spent a lot

Re: 11/35 on eBait

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 2:02 AM, Dave Wade wrote: > >http://www.ebay.com/itm/142146207101 >Surely if someone asks a simple question like that then how difficult could it >be to accomodate? Obviously too much effort for that seller it seems. I just wonder if they have seen that PDP/11 panels fetch

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread emanuel stiebler
On 2016-10-12 09:21, Eric Smith wrote: DEC PDP-10: MACRO-10 CP/M: Turbo Pascal (These are significantly more challenging than most of the other games that have been mentioned, but with more subjective scoring.) Good one ;-)

Re: Remember Data Printer Corp?

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
I had a 133 column line printer, and an 80 column Data Printer, Data products interfaces. Both drums. They could both move 3 x 5 cards at 1+ lines / min when printing < 20 columns. They were variable speed, so when something fired on the first 20 columns, such as for addressing, the

Re: Any Kryoflux, Discferret, Catweasel, or other floppy flux images wanted

2016-10-12 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > Do you have a prefered CW transition image format? My preference is Discferret.

PDP 8/A H221A 8K word memory

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
I won't bother posting a link to the auction, but have a question. Why would someone want $3,500 for this board over what H219's go for which are also 8K words? Just curious. Only obvious difference is a different core stack. thanks Jim

Re: Any Kryoflux, Discferret, Catweasel, or other floppy flux images wanted

2016-10-12 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > What Eric is working on is software that can decode disk formats that are > NOT necessarily WD/NEC FDC compatible! And writing a file similar to the > one created by IMD. > > That will most certainly NOT then be convertible

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > > > > As far as Doom, not long after I became a Sun employee in Mountain View > > in '94-95, we played Doom Arena, a networked, multiplayer version of Doom. > > > > I think you might be conflating 2 games here. > > Doom was *always* multiplayer and network aware. Doom 1.0 for DOS used > IPX

Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
I found an interface I've never seen, a Fisher Rosemont Highway interface. I don't know much in the history of Dec / VMS, but am guessing this is for Vax system only. HIGHWAY-INTERFACE-49A8569X052-62-FISHER-ROSEMOUNT-DC6450X1-HA5-40B1745-W-CABKIT-/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/371645465846 I

RE: PDP 8/A H221A 8K word memory

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Birkel
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of jim stephens Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:01 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: PDP 8/A H221A 8K word memory I won't bother posting a link to the auction, but have a

Re: large Wire wrap cards

2016-10-12 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM, jim stephens wrote: > The edge looks like Multibus, but the height looks too tall for standard > Multibus form factor. True, but it's not entirely uncommon for there to be over-height prototyping cards.

Re: large Wire wrap cards

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 2:42 AM, Eric Smith wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM, jim stephens wrote: The edge looks like Multibus, but the height looks too tall for standard Multibus form factor. True, but it's not entirely uncommon for there to be over-height prototyping cards.

Re: Getting out of the hobby

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/11/2016 1:07 PM, Seth Morabito wrote: Hey folks, Recent activity on the list, especially the "Ka... ching!" thread, has had me reevaluating a lot of what I get out of this hobby. I think there are two things going on that make it less fun for me now: The money, and the age of the stuff.

RE: 11/35 on eBait

2016-10-12 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of > ste...@malikoff.com > Sent: 12 October 2016 07:45 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: 11/35 on eBait > > > On Oct 2, 2016 11:03 AM, "Noel

Re: Mark-8 opinion question

2016-10-12 Thread william degnan
My opinion...build it right using a reasonable set of parts from the era or just leave the boards alone. I would be wary of winging it. b

Re: Mark-8 opinion question

2016-10-12 Thread Brad H
Nice!  I see you even got fab house marks!  Where did you get the PCB stock?  I hate how modern the stuff I've found looks. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Nick Allen Date: 2016-10-12 7:14 AM (GMT-08:00) To:

RE: Mark-8 opinion question

2016-10-12 Thread Brad H
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william degnan Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:04 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Mark-8 opinion question Original message

Re: Mark-8 opinion question

2016-10-12 Thread Brad H
That's pretty much my attitude.  I would never even consider building these without correct, vintage parts.  And I can already see a number of show stoppers.. including the 8263s.  I have some of those but they're all 1977 vintage, which is okay for a clone but totally wrong otherwise. 

Re: Mark-8 opinion question

2016-10-12 Thread william degnan
Original message From: william degnan Date: 2016-10-12 7:33 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" < cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Mark-8 opinion question My opinion...build it right using a reasonable set of parts

Re: Remember Data Printer Corp?

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 3:29 AM, jim stephens wrote: > > I had a 133 column line printer, and an 80 column Data Printer, Data products > interfaces. Both drums. They could both move 3 x 5 cards at 1+ lines / > min when printing < 20 columns. They were variable speed,

Re: Mark-8 opinion question

2016-10-12 Thread Nick Allen
I have built as reproduction Mark8, as accurate as possible. Check the link out below to see photos. Would be happy to help you in your journey to building a complete system, let me know I can help! https://goo.gl/photos/X6rXFrVMoJvRXGAe7 -Nick

Re: Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 12:57 AM, jim stephens wrote: I found an interface I've never seen, a Fisher Rosemont Highway interface. I don't know much in the history of Dec / VMS, but am guessing this is for Vax system only.

Re: Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread Adrian Graham
I used to service a VAX 4000-200 that had one of those in, monitoring 17,000 endpoints in an oil refinery and crunching the numbers for a daily report to the site manager. If you don't have the peerway at the other end and the custom software it won't do anything. That machine's probably still in

Re: 11/35 on eBait

2016-10-12 Thread steven
> On Oct 2, 2016 11:03 AM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote: >> >> So there's another 11/35 up on eBait: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/142135416325 >> > > Went unsold at $3500. Relisted, this time at $5000. > > Buy it this time before it goes up to $6500 next time??? > >

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Eric Smith
DEC PDP-10: MACRO-10 CP/M: Turbo Pascal (These are significantly more challenging than most of the other games that have been mentioned, but with more subjective scoring.)

Re: DECwriter II and Decwriter III engineering drawings

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Anderson
Hi Richard, Are they spoken for? Thanks, Paul On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > I have fallen a across a bound set of LA36 and LA120 engineering drawings. > Anybody want them for the cost of mailing them? > > Remember the good old days when you not

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Tapley, Mark
Hm. I played “air traffic controller” on Mac Plus for a while. Was there an earlier screen-terminal version of that? Would be a completetly different game without the mouse, but …? - Mark 210-522-6025 office

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread geneb
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: This discussion is stirring up so many old memories. I distinctively recall, back at the time that this was relevant, that the (DOS) network game play was disrupting/saturating networks, because, if I recall the article correctly, the game was

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Jerry Kemp
This discussion is stirring up so many old memories. I distinctively recall, back at the time that this was relevant, that the (DOS) network game play was disrupting/saturating networks, because, if I recall the article correctly, the game was communicating with other nodes using broadcast

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Jerry Kemp
supporting links, but not the original article from back in the day.

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > This discussion is stirring up so many old memories. > > I distinctively recall, back at the time that this was relevant, that the > (DOS) network game play was disrupting/saturating networks, because, if I > recall the article

Re: large Wire wrap cards

2016-10-12 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/12/2016 02:42 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM, jim stephens > wrote: >> The edge looks like Multibus, but the height looks too tall for >> standard Multibus form factor. > > True, but it's not entirely uncommon for there to be over-height >

Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!])

2016-10-12 Thread Charles Anthony
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: > Hm. I played “air traffic controller” on Mac Plus for a while. Was there > an earlier screen-terminal version of that? Would be a completetly > different game without the mouse, but …? > There should be a UNIX curses

Re: Manuaal for the original Sun Workstation

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Loken
I received seven requests for the Sun Workstation manual. I guess I will draw a name from a hat or something... -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada

Re: DECwriter II and Decwriter III engineering drawings

2016-10-12 Thread John H. Reinhardt
On 10/12/2016 9:30 PM, Richard Loken wrote: And five requests for these manuals. Is someone going to scan them? Have they been scanned already? I guess I should look :-P I just picked up a LA120 that's been in a storage unit since the mid 90's and I 'll need to debug it. John H.

Re: Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread Charles Dickman
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:18 AM, jim stephens wrote: > I found an Allen Bradley box which uses this, not sure if it needs a hub, > but points to the use of the hardware. > > Allen-Bradley-Data-Highway-Communication-Interface-1770-KF2-Ser-B-Rev-D-/ > >

Re: Remember Data Printer Corp?

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Loken
The offer of DPC manuals led to many happy reminscenses but only one request for the manuals (with a promise to scan them). Are there scans of these manuals available on-line? -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University

Re: DECwriter II and Decwriter III engineering drawings

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Loken
And five requests for these manuals. -- Richard Loken VE6BSV, Systems Programmer - VMS : "...underneath those Athabasca University : tuques we wear, our Athabasca, Alberta Canada: heads are naked!" ** rllo...@telus.net **

Re: DECwriter II and Decwriter III engineering drawings

2016-10-12 Thread Richard Loken
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote: On 10/12/2016 9:30 PM, Richard Loken wrote: And five requests for these manuals. Is someone going to scan them? Have they been scanned already? I guess I should look :-P I too would like to know if these manuals have been scanned already.

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's! Thanks for the tip! Against my better judgement I put in a bid on the one without the trim on the faceplate... - Josh

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Jason T
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590=288#288 There are a lot of interesting items/lots in this auction. I hope whoever ends up with the main bits finds the extras as well. Wonder if the /45

Re: Manuaal for the original Sun Workstation

2016-10-12 Thread Jerry Kemp
any chance that it could be scanned, then shared that way? Thanks, Jerry On 10/12/16 08:28 PM, Richard Loken wrote: I received seven requests for the Sun Workstation manual. I guess I will draw a name from a hat or something...

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 9:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's! Thanks for the tip! Against my better judgement I put in a bid on the one without the trim on the

NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Al Kossow
https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's!

Re: Manuaal for the original Sun Workstation

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 9:47 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: any chance that it could be scanned, then shared that way? Thanks, Jerry Something like what is on this page? http://www.solivant.com/sun100/ Bitsavers: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/sun/sun1/ thanks Jim

Re: Highway interface [warning contains an ebay ref], but is an old VMS network interface

2016-10-12 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Some years ago I was talking to Virginia DOT about access to camera feeds > in the Hampton Roads (Southeastern Virginia) region. I eventually got > access to the ftp site where the pics were dumped out every 5 minutes. > > The listing of cameras was screen shots taken from an OpenVMS control