Localhost count? Heh
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On Jan 25, 2011 8:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek?
CrystalTech? DailyRazor?
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Yeah, I'm biased - but define expensive? 299 bucks is nothing for some
- a lot for others. At the end of the day you have to ask if you feel
the tool is worth the money - not if it's expensive. Something can
cost 5 bucks and not be worth even that. To me - CFBuilder is well
worth the price. I
Nathan,
Great thoughts. I like some of your points. By the way I am not trying to
throw a loaded question, but I just think for us developers it seems to be a
lot of money to put into something whereas you can easily use CFEclipse or
alternative.
Contrary to popular belief not everybody
Granted.
I guess I should have said something like, You didn't answer his question.
Instead, you re-worded a bit of his question in a most un-helpful form.
Like, You ask, is the sky blue. I answer, sky...blue...many wonder.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
Wikipedia is not exactly a great source for verifying something lol. Just
saying.
It's satisfactory for undisputed facts, and it's easier to remember
off the cuff than other sites that list logical fallacies, which is
what begging the question is. I use it quite often to provide simple
Expensive??? $299 for two high end IDE's is a good deal. One day of
programming should more than pay for it.
Wil Genovese
One man with courage makes a majority. - Andrew Jackson
On Jan 25, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Thoughts about cf builder. Do you
Ray,
How are you doing? Long time. Good point. I imagine it would be worth it,
but would really buy it if it was just a little cheaper. Its a little hard to
swallow when trying to pay the bills too. Thank goodness for eclipse though.
Took me a while to drop the dependance on
Interesting. In my spare time I am going back to college and almost to a tee
all of my professors warn about wikipedia and how much misinformation is on
there. What is really something is that at my previous school the professors
were the same way about wikipedia. Guess you have to take it
Will,
Thanks for the input. I would if only I could get hired lol. (Thats a joke
people dont read into it). Like I said its easier said when one is not worried
about paying the bills and getting by. When you are making 70,000 its really
not that big of a deal.
Mike
On Jan 25, 2011, at
Wow.
This thread is FANTASTIC. Michael, you can't be so sensitive. In
programming, there are a LOT of egos we all have to deal with. None of the
comments were that condescending, and if they really have 18's for stats,
well it might be a good idea to just listen to what they have to say. I
Contrary to popular belief not everybody makes the big bucks.
In that case, it's even more important to have the best tools you can afford.
What would be nice to see some sort of discount for developers or trim it
down like they do for the server so that use developers can at least practice
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek?
CrystalTech? DailyRazor?
Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their
stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things
Interesting. In my spare time I am going back to college and almost to a tee
all of my professors warn about wikipedia and how
much misinformation is on there. What is really something is that at my
previous school the professors were the same way about
wikipedia. Guess you have to take
M. So how exactly does one afford the best tools when they don't have the
dollars? Easy to say when you got a job. You say people at Adobe have to eat,
but most people at Adobe also make 60-8 easily.
And if your a developer the educational use is of no real benefit because if I
The client said that using one IP address, several domain names can be used-
multiple sites using host
header names. I am not sure what that means
It means that you'll probably have to create virtual directories for
both sites, as several people have mentioned.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf
Sean,
Thanks. Finally an answer to this one. I ask because as someone whos been
away for a while wasn't too sure who was the best anymore. I think I will take
a look at Edge. I was looking at Hostek and they have excellent framework
support. I will see and compare the two though.
FWIW, I've had unpleasant experiences with HostMySite / Hosting.com
and have moved everything away from them. They used to be my 'go to'
hosting company back in the day but since Neil and Lou left it's gone
totally downhill as far as CF is concerned. I've had less than stellar
experiences with
Ok I see your point. I cannot say I agree, but I do see your viewpoint. Yes,
the professors pointed that out as well, but also said that even on off the
cuff things it can be a very dangerous tool because you don't know who is doing
the writing. In other words are they true and supported
I use it at home and at work. For me it is a nice-to-have but probably
not worth $300. I know a few developers who tried it and went back to
CFEclipse. The only reason I like it is for some of the RDS and ORM
functionality. I wouldn't miss it if it was gone.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:48 PM,
There is a whole PDF on why -
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/whitepapers/pdf/cfb_overview.pdf
Warning - I'm the author - but as I said above - I'm biased.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
M. So how exactly does one afford the best tools
I would suggest two things:
1) Check out this page for all the awesome features of CFB -
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/cfbuilder/features/ - sorry Adobe
does a better job of listing the features than I will
http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/cfbuilder/features/2) Sign up and
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
I am surprised that nobody has really tried to say why cf builder is so good
likes it features. in other words, nobody has really provided a good reason
as to why should I invest in it.
Because good is relative.
Ah I remember GoDaddy. What a horror story that was. I am disappointed to
hear about CrystalTech because I actually had some good experiences with them..
I am surprised to hear about Hostmysite.com though. Thought they were always
the gold standard per say even though I never tried them.
Hey all,
I have code for parsing feeds that works very well on several feeds.
cfhttp
url=http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/canada-novascotia.xml method=get/cfhttp
cfset objRSS = xmlParse(cfhttp.filecontent)
cfoutput#objRSS#/cfoutput
cfdump var=#objRSS#
Wow. I am seeing mostly for. will review the pdf, but to be honest I won't be
able to get it until I find myself a position (no i am not asking). I might
give the trial a spin time permitting. Thank god for eclipse so because it
does offer a good alternative.
My thinking is if it was
I think Charlie here has the best point. If a tool works for you -
makes you productive - then it's worth a lot more than a tool that is
not. No one editor will be good for every developer. Period. If
CFBuilder doesn't help you work faster than don't stress over it.
Shoot - if you can get things
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Thoughts about cf builder.
First off, it's an absolute bargain in terms of increased
productivity! Second, $299 is very reasonable for professional
development software - look at Zend Studio and Visual Studio
As a small-scale hoster myself, I'm interested in what makes a
hosting company good (or otherwise). I'm assuming that a few of
the factors are:
[A] site stays up more often than not - a LOT more often than not.
Preferably 100% of the time
[B] when there are problems, they're handled quickly
Very true. Ah I do miss the days of homesite and cf studio. I gotta say its
good to be back with coldfusion though.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Raymond Camden wrote:
I think Charlie here has the best point. If a tool works for you -
makes you productive - then it's worth a lot more
M. So how exactly does one afford the best tools when they don't have
the dollars? Easy to say when you got a job.
You say people at Adobe have to eat, but most people at Adobe also make
60-8 easily.
Well, that's a tough choice, I guess. But that's what people do. If
you really
Good points. I am not familiar with Zend Studio, but I do agree Visual Studio
is probably the albatross of all of them. Nice to hear it works well with
source control and plug ins. Based on the feedback I am getting Builder seems
to be very stable contrary to a few web posts I have read.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote:
What else? (or am I wrong in thinking the above are important factors?)
You missed one of the most important factors (for me):
* support people know their arse from their elbow when it comes to ColdFusion
That's the main
Mike,
They are all important and thanks for the input. Good to hear from an actual
hosting company and hear your unique perspective. I think probably my biggest
concern is how good is the support. If you can keep my site up around 99.5
percent and answer most questions with someone there
I found the answer after some trial and error and digging around!
It turns out, this character which is creating problem is something called
as Byte-Order-Mark and in an XML document, it is used to flag the encoding
type of the XML. Unfortunately, ColdFusion does not appreciate the use of
this
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I see your point. I cannot say I agree, but I do see your viewpoint.
Yes, the professors pointed that out as well, but also said that even on off
the cuff things it can be a very dangerous tool because you don't
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Based on the feedback I am getting Builder seems to be very stable contrary
to a few web posts I have read.
I think a lot of people tried the public beta, had problems, and never
went back after the public 1.0
Sorry to hear that coming from a CTO of a leading company, but your opinion is
your opinion and I can respect that. Actually, I have gotten some good
perspectives and while I think it could be cheaper my aim was to get a
discussion going about it because I have been away for a while. I just
You have a point there. Actually, after speaking to the people at Hostek, I
did quiz them on a few areas and they seem to have handled themselves quite
well. They even answered my questions about the frameworks and how did they
support them.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Sean Corfield
LMAO. Now my sides are hurting.
On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:10 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok I see your point. I cannot say I agree, but I do see your viewpoint.
Yes, the professors pointed that out as well, but also
I am happy to hear that Adobe is committed to it because to be honest during my
time as a SQL DBA the company I was at was into ASP.Net (ah the agony) and I
kind of fell out of the loop with ColdFusion. During that time, I kept on
hearing it was dying a slow death but after tonight and my
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry to hear that coming from a CTO of a leading company, but your opinion
is your opinion and I can respect that. Actually, I have gotten some good
perspectives and while I think it could be cheaper my aim was to
I've also had really good experiences with CrytalTech. I found their tech
staff can be hit or miss, but what they lack in knowledge I've found they
made up for in cooperation. Just make sure you know exactly what you're
calling for.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Michael Firth
Charlie,
One does not have to answer if they don't want to or feel its a waste of time.
That is the great thing about our country. I think everybody contributed
because they had something to say and whether if i agree or not, it should be
respected. As with yours, I might not agree but I
That is true Michael.
I can remember that there were times when I had questions regarding coldfusion
they actually had to look up the answers to them.
My other pet peeve was that blasted small font they always used lmao.
Thanks,
Michael
On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
Sorry to hear that coming from a CTO of a leading company, but your opinion
is your opinion and I can respect that.
I'm not exactly sure what part of that would make you sorry about
something. But whatever I said that made you sorry, I was simply being
honest. I'd prefer to remain honest and
Stop feeding the troll :-)
Just do what I do and filter him to the trash where he belongs.
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:42 PM
To: cf-talk
I've installed Coldfusion 9 in my iMac, ColdFusionLauncher indicates that it
is running. I've create a very simple Hello html with
CF tags and a #variable#, but the output does not evaluate the variable, it
just prints out #variable#.
I'm taking an on-line course the briefly covers
Dave,
I say I am sorry because you seem to have made up your mind about my intentions
regarding the discussion and based it off of my first thread. Also, I find
your last remarks regarding my posts troubling. Thats a dangerous thing for a
CTO to think like that. I would think you would be
But, the below described procedure - it's 100% accurate for setting up a
cluster?
(not ticking of the replicate sessions this time.. :))
--
JRun instances
All new CF instances is created from the default CFusion instance which is
shut down and never used
Bobby,
I know you are filtering, but if you see this post you may want to look at some
of the other ones. It's too bad that you, Russ, Andrew have formulated
opinions without really knowing me. Sorry, but thats a real dangerous line of
thought if you ask me. Also, if I am a troll for
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote:
It's too bad that you, Russ, Andrew have formulated opinions without really
knowing me.
A friend just pointed me to Michael's posts on cf-jobs so I could get
to know him better...
(I've tried really hard not to
Hostek I wasn't happy with lotsa down time. Crystaltech not too happy with and
a bit pricey.
I've heard good things about Edge Web as well.
I ended up getting a VPS linux server at Viviotech, running CF 9 enterprise for
under $100 a month. I couldn't be happier. And their support is 2nd to
I'd agree. I mean if my employer is willing to pay for my copy once my trial
runs out I'll be happy to use it *hint hint*. :) I still use Homesite for the
most part. :)
I use it at home and at work. For me it is a nice-to-have but probably
not worth $300. I know a few developers who tried
Very true. Ah I do miss the days of homesite and cf studio. I
gotta say its good to be back with coldfusion though.
Well, the homesite days aren't completely dead. I still use Homesite
when I'm working on remote sites that are mostly procedural, but have
been using CFBuilder more and more
What sorts of questions do you expect a hosting company to be
knowledgeable about and willing to help you with (aside from specific
hosting questions of course)?
DO you expect them to know how to use every tag and function? Syntax
things? (I happen to be pretty experienced at that level, as a
Ah the sweet memories.
On Jan 25, 2011 11:54 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote:
Very true. Ah I do miss the days of homesite and cf studio. I
gotta say its good to be back with coldfusion though.
Well, the homesite days aren't completely dead. I still use Homesite
when I'm
Actually I haven't formulated anything, so don't assume what you might think
I may think.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Michael Firth [mailto:mfsqlser...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2011 2:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re:
I am kinda of curious to see what frameworks are being promoted these days?
Is it Fusebox? Or Mode-Glue? I also am hearing a lot about CF-Wheels, so just
wanna hear anybody's thoughts that may want to have an actual discussion about
development.
By the way, I am just returning to CF
Adrian,
Thanks for the heads up! Already on the move with jQuery. Sounds like Mach II
kicking butt versus the others. I may be mistaken but from what i am seeing
Fusebox seems to have lost a lot of steam.
Mike
On Jan 25, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Adrian J. Moreno wrote:
ColdBox or Mach-II.
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