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From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Or better yet, Macromedia can give CF back to Allaire, then the n
From: "Robert Everland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Or better yet, Macromedia can give CF back to Allaire, then the newly
formed
> allaire can give Jrun back to the makers who made that.
The suggestion was to bring Nick Bradbury back into the loop in
partnership with MM. I think this was in response t
pport that
view.
My thoughts.
Shawn Grover
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From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:12 AM
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The direction of abandoning the HomeSite / CF Studio codebase.
I remember
1:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>> My suggestion would be to give the rights to Studio back to Nick
>> Bradbury and license him to develop a MM partnered version
>
> What a great idea. Out of all the programs I use for web development I
Tell them to step out of the 70s and into the new century. VI is unix's
notepad and IMO useless if you're dealing with anything larger than a
config file or script.
On Tue, 7 May 2002, Van Vliet, Scott wrote:
> I wish I could code with VI. Everyone that I know who uses it, loves it,
> and will
l Message-
From: Christine Lawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Hi Everyone,
I know Mike Chambers and Nathan Stanford already pointed this out, but Neil
is not a Macromedia employee. He's
>> My suggestion would be to give the rights to Studio back to Nick
>> Bradbury and license him to develop a MM partnered version
>
> What a great idea. Out of all the programs I use for web development I
> think Top Style is one of the best designed. I would love to see what
> would happen if Nic
>My suggestion would be to give the rights to Studio back to Nick
Bradbury >and license him to develop a MM partnered version of, say
"Studio MX" - >which I am sure 90% plus of CF developers across the
world would be willing >to "upgrade" to and MM could get a commission on
each sale, keeping >dev
Right behind ya on that one boss :O)
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From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 May 2002 17:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Christine
Thanks for the response. I guess my own reply would be to back-up what Dave
Why not have them as different packages?
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From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 May 2002 17:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Isn't that where HomeSite + will come in? For those that don't do
design? Pl
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Hi Guys,
I see your points, in my reply I didn't actually mean "get use to it", I
more meant to say lets get some concrete feedback and I'll pass it on
int
ay, May 07, 2002 12:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Dear Macormedia,
Can't you just understand that there are LOTS of us out here that have
no
use for the design studio which Dreamweaver MX is? You know, some
people
can simply see a page layout in thei
how I work, and stops telling me how I "should" be working, I
doubt I'll ever use it in that manner.
My thoughts.
Shawn Grover
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From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia F
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Sent: 07 May 2002 17:33
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you
thinking? )
Yeah, but you got to remember that this list is 80%-90% American! :)
J
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From: Van Vliet, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PR
ent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
My question for you Chris is can you Quote where Christine has said anything
like... Get used to it? If your going to throw in an accusations please
give a quoted example or two?
Thanks,
Nathan
7:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you
thinking? )
I thought everyone on this list understood sarcasm :)
I guess this whole DWMX thing has just sucked the fun out of all of you!
--
Scott Van Vliet
Sempra Energy
555 W. 5th St., 21st Floor
Yeah, but you got to remember that this list is 80%-90% American! :)
J
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From: Van Vliet, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 17:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking? )
I thought everyone
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> From: Darren Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you
> thinking? )
>
>
> Good grief !!
>
> I cant stand VI you people are glutten for punishment
LOL
| -Original Message-
| From: Ian Tait [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:21 AM
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| you thinking? )
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| :q!
|
| rm -f /usr/bin/vi
|
| QED
|
| Ian
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Just use notepad then.
That's a text editor too... ;o)
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I wish I could code with VI. Everyone that I know who uses it, loves it,
and will use no other editor. On top of that, they are CRAZY fast at coding
with it.
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t Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90013
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> From: Ian Tait [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you
> thinki
ies working together and combining the technologies, imagine what we can do with
future releases - especially with your feedback.
I hope that helps...
Christine
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:45 AM
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:q!
rm -f /usr/bin/vi
QED
Ian
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From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 May 2002 17:19
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you
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Lol.. I was just thinking the same thing!
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Lol.. I was just thinking the same thing!
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| I think it's time you got som
Don't listen to him, he's often seen reading hex and binary :OP
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From: Ian Tait [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 May 2002 17:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you
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I think it's time you got s
I think it's time you got some new friends :-)
Ian
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From: Van Vliet, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 May 2002 17:14
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Editor Woes (was RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?)
I wish I could code with VI. Everyone that I kno
I wish I could code with VI. Everyone that I know who uses it, loves it,
and will use no other editor. On top of that, they are CRAZY fast at coding
with it.
--
Scott Van Vliet
Sempra Energy
555 W. 5th St., 21st Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90013
Tel > 213.244.5205
Email > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 08:55 AM 5/7/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > We are discussing details on an IDE, which by itself is
> > somewhat benign, but
> > if you look at the overall attitude (and perceived direction)
> > of Macromedia,
> > you should be able to easily see why we are getting a bit
> > worried and/or
> > frus
Maybe, just maybe, I'll try Homesite+, but
> I guess it all
> depends upon what gets sent as part of our subscription
> program, doesn't it?
>
> Pete
My friends in customer service have told me that if you're subscribed to CF Studio
subscription, you will receive DWMX as part of your subscri
;ll ever use it in that manner.
My thoughts.
Shawn Grover
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From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>I know I sound like a DW-ite and that I am towing
2 8:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>
>
> Okay, which point are you replying too?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:54 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Sub
t;> used to it"
-Original Message-
From: Chris Stoner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Christine,
I won't try to talk for everyone here however, as a developer who spends
more time i
Hi Mark et al I certainly only wanted to say what was my view
(hence constant smilies and reference to M.O and IMHO etc ;-). I
like passionate threads, in fact it works both ways - I am passionate
about certain things and certain paths of development... but that does
not mean to say it
I'm gonna have to go out on a limb here (as a new comer, I've been trying to not get
too rowdy...)
> I an see why
> everyone is getting a little rude here.
I totally understand that we're talking about folks work environment, and I am
sensitive to that. I expect passion around this issue. Whil
Okay, which point are you replying too?
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From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Just an FYI on one point...
I think Macromedia dropped the Studio name on
Just an FYI on one point...
I think Macromedia dropped the Studio name on HomeSite+ because Macromedia calls its
bundles "Studio." So, this will avoid confusion that CFStudio, isn't a Studio bundle.
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This list and all House of
on each sale, keeping developers (surely the front-line
salespeople for the CF product to clients) happy in the bargain Just a
thought eh.
J
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From: Chris Stoner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 16:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: Wha
At 10:25 AM 5/7/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>OK, so as I sit here reading these rants about DWMX and RDS - which is
>great since it's apparently not what you CFers want - it makes me
>wonder, since I haven't tried CFMX or DWMX, and I don't use RDS at all
>but would like to eventually, when I figure ou
gt;
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> Christine,
>
> I won't try to talk for everyone here however, as a developer who spends
> more time in code then in the look and fe
d about the roadmap and wondered if
the developers were even taken into account with that roadmap. The answer appears to
be yes, but the road is bumpy.
Alex D
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE:
Macromedia Technical Support
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From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
*** you wrote *
OK so now we're being told by MM wha
Thanks Mark :)
-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Christine,
As one who has come close to the line of being rude (or perhaps HAVE been
somewhat
esday, May 07, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Hi Everyone,
I know Mike Chambers and Nathan Stanford already pointed this out, but Neil
is not a Macromedia employee. He's a Team Macromedia member, but not an
employee, and his views are his
helps, now I'm on to organizing your feedback...
>
> Christine Lawson
> Macromedia Technical Support
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macromedia Fo
Did they remove it from Homesite+ too?
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From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> Lol how many peop
:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
*** you wrote *
OK so now we're being told by MM what is and is NOT good practice, dont
seem
right to me lol
we should be able to access files directly with RDS/FTp
of course mistakes happen but you&
ginal Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
*** you wrote *
OK so now we're being told by MM what is and is NOT good practice, dont seem
right
, May 07, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> *** you wrote *
> OK so now we're being told by MM what is and is NOT good practice, dont
seem
> right to me lol
> we should be able to access files directly with RDS/FTp
> of
*** you wrote *
OK so now we're being told by MM what is and is NOT good practice, dont seem
right to me lol
we should be able to access files directly with RDS/FTp
of course mistakes happen but you'll have people making mistakes with this
style of doing it too.
Did you get
Thanks Nathan ;-)
People can have opinions etc.. and I did mean the LIVE box - I
personally think that using RDS on a live box is bad practice but thats
me. It is my opinion, and people will have theirs' in fact I can see
why they are pretty peeved with the DWMX/HS+ scenario!!!
Neil Cla
How was the Bagel Bill... ;-)
Are you saying I tow the MM party line ;-> hee hee. I personally never
used RDS as I always developed locally and using a Build>Prod>Live
environment. It was my opinion not MACR's.
As I said previously :RDS is in DWMX.
Oh, about the logo, I have a feeling that
Ok Ok
Neil why do you say this is a BAD PRACTICE?
Everyone else remember this is NEIL'S Opinion... Bad Practices are not
written in stone. Although some of them could be.
I have used FTP/RDS with other users No not to the LIVE BOX...
Local Machine - Type here
Development S
No problems Erika!! ;-) I get it all the time as well you can spell
it lots of different ways here.
N
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CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:21 AM
> > To: CF-
>>| -Original Message-
>>| From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>|
>>| Neal, I'm sorry, but
By the way, NEIL, my apologies for misspelling your name. I hate when
people do it to me. :)
Erika
With a K
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:21 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>
>
> >IMHO opening a file via RDS and/or especially via FTP is simply bad
>
"CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> Hi Owen,
>
> Good points; and I think no-one from Macromedia (or I) has treated
> anyone like children ;-p that's MO, you can develop your si
> -Original Message-
> From: Owen Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 7:13 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>
>
> > IMHO opening a file via RDS and/or especially via FTP is simply bad
>
--
From: "Neil Clark - =TMM=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> OK, "herrr's Jonny."
>
> All who have commented.., I hear
>>| From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|
>>| Oh, and the Drag and Drop of images is also there - as long
>>| as you are in Design Mode.
>>|
Neal, I'm sorry, but that's useless to us "hand-coders". Absolutely
useless. That drag and drop of images into your code was an excell
Any news on if it will be made workable with WebSite Pro?
Sarah
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From: "Neil Clark - =TMM=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:35 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinki
Oh, and DWMX CAN have "custom toolbar buttons, custom toolbars";
remember that it these can all be extended with the DWMX JS DOM and the
Extension Manager - I do remember a thread about Keyboard Shortcuts -
so I hear ya on that one !!
Neil Clark
Team Macromedia
http://www.macromedia.com/go/
Hi Owen,
Good points; and I think no-one from Macromedia (or I) has treated
anyone like children ;-p thats MO, you can develop your sites anyway
you can, I am only seeing it from the Dreamweaver pov. As I said
yesterday like Pete and others, I was LIVID when I found certain
features and prods
Oh, and the Drag and Drop of images is also there - as long as you are
in Design Mode.
Neil Clark
Team Macromedia
http://www.macromedia.com/go/team
Announcing Macromedia MX!!
http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/.
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From: "Neil Clark - =TMM=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
> OK, "herrr's Jonny."
>
>
forms it runs on.
Sarah Skiba, Web Services Administratror
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From: "Owen Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:13 AM
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
| &g
> IMHO opening a file via RDS and/or especially via FTP is simply bad
> practice - it is an accident waiting to happen.
I know you Macromedia folks are proud of DWMX, and you should be--it's a
great step forward from Dreamweaver 4. But this kind of statement
really doesn't do anything for your c
ld grab an image file and drop it into my code.
This is another feature which seems to have fallen out of the product...
M
-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Hi Joshua,
To keep Homesite+ ; Yep, I think that was the thought from the outset -
Dreamweaver will probably always ship with a tool geared toward the
handcoder - it is just now that the handcoder's they have are old Studio
Users, so to keep *us* happy we get Homesite+ (I think the name had to
ch
-Original Message-
>>| From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>| Sent: 06 May 2002 22:55
>>| To: CF-Talk
>>| Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>>|
>>|
>>| Thanks for your comments. I hope you don't think I'm
&
> I have to emphasize that Site Definitions are core to a lot
> of Dreamweaver's functionality. It's not all about holding
> your hand! A lot of the behaviors (which you may or may not
> have used yet, but I'll bet that when you do, you'll be
> hooked) depend on paths, which requires DW have knowl
Yeah, just keep HomeSite+ alive and I'm sure you'll get a lot less grief
from this list.
There's no need to remove, discontinue or eliminate that product, it's
gold - especially if it now contains all the features from Studio.
Joshua Miller
Web Development :: Programming
Eagle Web Development LL
Someone give that man a drink of his choice. ( bill me for it)
At 10:59 PM 5/6/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Well in the hopes that all these comments are really useful, here
>goes... I'm another hard-core hand-coder. Aside from some minor
>annoyances, Studio is a great editor for a wide variety
> If so, then could you drop a note to the developers about why
> you'd find this advantageous, and why you it disadvantageous to
> create a local site, please?
Heh, heh, heh. I don't know your background, John, but this kind of
sounds kind of like the coder vs. designer argument recast. More
Well in the hopes that all these comments are really useful, here goes... I'm another
hard-core hand-coder. Aside from some minor annoyances, Studio is a great editor for
a wide variety of tasks, not just CF/Web development, although it certainly excels at
that for a certain audience. Uh, Dr
I agree 100%. Whether it is best practice or not best practice is not the
point. When you manage 200+ websites and have to make tiny edits to them
sporadically, defining a site for each one is just not worth it.
I only wish the time/effort invested in axing CFStudio would have been used
to make
billiards into bumper pool ... too funny.
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
I see - so you've turned Billiards into Bumper-Pool ;)
What's t
Neil,
Bad practice or not, I think many of us are stuck in the old days with
no source control and we open up files via RDS.
That said I am trying very hard to use this new thing and give everyone
at MM a chance.
John Venable
on 5/6/02 6:41 PM, Neil Clark - =TMM= at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 11:41 PM 5/6/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>IMHO opening a file via RDS and/or especially via FTP is simply bad
>practice - it is an accident waiting to happen. You should get into the
>habit of always having 3 servers (or locations) where you have
>development / testing / live.
I agree that you
oser.
My thoughts.
Shawn Grover
-Original Message-
From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
OK, "herrr's Jonny."
All who have commented.., I hear you o
It's not in the Preview Release, but it will be in the purchase version.
-Vern
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
>
> Macromedia does bundle Studio Homesite+ with
> Dreamweaver and it is basically Studio 5.5 or even 6.
Well, given that, for the price of the DWMX upgrade I can have a Studio upgrade from
the sound of it, and figure out the DW component at my leisure. That works for me,
assuming I'm underst
I hear what you're saying, but I want one tool and not two. Sounds like I need two at
least for the present.
> Also by the way, I am pretty sure that ColdFusion
> Studio versions of the future will no longer be called
> ColdFusion Studio. I think the main reason for this
> is that the product
OK, "herrr's Jonny."
All who have commented.., I hear you on all levels. In fact 5 months
ago when I learned that ColdFusion Studio was to be "merged" (at that
time I thought Axed) I was livid, I held that standpoint for agesbut
that said..
But some of these 'complaints' are a ta
I thought I'd add my opinion here.
I have spent quite a bit of time Dreamweaver MX and I
think its a great step forward. Macromedia has set
out to accomplish quite alot with this version of
Dreamweaver and actually they've done an amazing job.
Although it might not be the right tool for everyon
-Original Message-
From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Macromedia Folks: What are you thinking?
Thanks for your comments. I hope you don't think I'm arguing with you, just
trying to understand and explain. =)
I ha
At 02:55 PM 5/6/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Thanks for your comments. I hope you don't think I'm arguing with you,
>just trying to understand and explain. =)
>
>I have to emphasize that Site Definitions are core to a lot of
>Dreamweaver's functionality. It's not all about holding your hand! A lot
>
now you want it. I can't make it appear magically, but I can be sure to tell folks
how much of my flesh it's cost me because it's not in there. OUCH! =)
-Vern
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too, so I'll be conveying what I learn from you all.
-Vern
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> You may also take
Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I wanted to talk to some of our most seasoned CF'ers around here before
I got back with you on this. We stepped through what was necessary to
set
I guess I'm missing something here, but I thought we were talking about RDS/FTP in the
open/save dialog. I know all this fussing can't be because DW asks you to tell it
where you want any local files stored for each site, that's only a few moments to
declare, and the advantages are awesome. Onc
that
Mark wants. The process is automatic; as user proof as possible.
andy
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I wanted to talk to some of our most seasoned C
e future of CF, and the
development tools.
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I wanted to talk to some of our most seasoned CF'ers around her
You wrote:
2. There is no option to use FTP/RDS in the save-as dialog box:
This means that to save & upload to another site/location other than the
site currently chosen, you have to first save it to the corresponding
location in the local root folder of that site, then switc
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I wanted to talk to some of our most seasoned CF'ers
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Since I work in CF Studio 4 to 6 hours a day - here's m
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I wanted to talk to some of our most seasoned CF'ers around here before I got back
with you on this. We stepped through what was necessary to set up the RDS connection
and edit files both in CF Studio and DWMX, and what the fundemental differences are.
We think we've boiled it down to a few rel
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