Adobe no longer supports CF 8, so I don't believe that they would certify a
security fix for it.
For info on which versions of which products Adobe supports, see:
http://www.adobe.com/support/programs/policies/supported.html
Cheers,
Judah
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:58 AM, John M Bliss
/2012. They stopped supporting
it since then?
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com
wrote:
Adobe no longer supports CF 8, so I don't believe that they would
certify a
security fix for it.
For info on which versions of which products Adobe supports, see
You have to send Auth.net personally identifying information in order
to use AVS (the address verification service), so I know they don't
forbid that. Maybe it depends on the integration method you are using.
Are you doing the simple integration method where you send the user to
auth.net and then
., data. I don't think that kind of data can go through
Authorize.net's server and back to me.
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:31 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Question about using AJAX with Authorize.net
I've not done it before, myself. I'd probably just use CreateObject
and instantiate log4j and then start with the log4j docs. I believe
the class you'd be most likely to use is
org.apache.log4j.DailyRollingFileAppender
It also just occurred to me that you could use LogBox. It is part of
the
If you feel like getting fancy, you should be able to invoke the log4j
package that comes with CF and then config it to write out to where
you want.
Cheers,
Judah
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, morchella
morchella.delici...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Dave.
I dont have access to log dit.
i
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:48 PM, wrote:
i already read tha adobe bulletin, it doesn't really say much.
I doubt you will ever see details and description about any possible attack.
It would be too easy for those looking for ideas...
Publication of details of an attack are pretty common.
Selenium supports that functionality.
http://seleniumhq.org/docs/04_webdriver_advanced.html#taking-a-screenshot
There is also a CF wrapper for Selenium called cfselenium but I have
not used it yet, so I'm not sure if it support Webdriver and
screenshots. It looks like it may only support
CF11: Code name Magic Pony!
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Raymond Camden
raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:
Errr, yes, so sorry we couldn't do _everything_ people wanted in CF10.
CF11 will have every feature requested. Ever.
(Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:23 PM,
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
You can add comments to the lovesick themselves.
But the lovesick still won't pay any attention to you.
Damn emo kids. Get off my lawn!
Judah
~|
Out of curiosity, how are you accounting for desktops with touch interfaces?
cheers,
Judah
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote:
All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible
layouts and media queries.
However, there are always going
...@sstwebworks.com wrote:
We fixed it, there was a point in one of the YUI calls where it was
calling a fully qualified URL that was an http instead of an https.
On 6/7/2012 2:07 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
Have you tried firebug to see what is failing in the JS? I'm presuming
an ajax call
If finding a copy of CF5 doesn't work out, you might consider trying
the code out on one of the free CFML engines like Railo or OpenBD. If
the code is pretty straight forward, vanilla, CF it should work with
few tweaks. If they have heavy use of C++ custom tags and such, might
be more pain that
Have you tried firebug to see what is failing in the JS? I'm presuming
an ajax call. And have you tried doing a traceroute from that machine
to see if there is a problem upstream from your server?
Cheers,
Judah
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Scott Stewart
webmas...@sstwebworks.com wrote:
that O contains a recordset...
The traceroute times look pretty slow once it gets into the provider's
network (84 - 100ms vs. 6 - 10ms)
We've got a call into our provider to see if there's anything that
they're willing to tell us.
On 6/7/2012 2:07 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
Have you tried
You could also use cfthread. Spawn the execution off into another
thread, then use the cfthread join action to make current processing
wait until the child thread is finished and rejoined. Put your logic
to check for file existence in the child thread where the execution of
the external app is.
Big public announcements at conferences are a great thing. And pretty
common. However, when companies do that, they usually also release the
damn product at the same time. At least they build a good product.
Coldfusion: great engineering, crappy marketing.
Judah
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:21
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote:
(Creative Suite sales are probably an order of magnitude greater than
CF sales, so while CF is profitable, it's likely a drop in the bucket
compared with the heavy hitters that have a broader market appeal). A
As an example of this, learning MVC and DI in Coldbox made it much
easier to dive into .Net MVC when I was working in a .Net/C# shop.
There were certainly some differences in how things were done in each
framework (Coldbox was better than .Net MVC in pretty much every way,
though .Net MVC got
That's very curious. The CVE that Adobe references in their release (
CVE-2012-0770 ) doesn't seem to be a valid CVE number, though it comes
up in some google searches. But it isn't in the National Vulnerability
Database or at cvedetails.com
The vulnerability they are describing seems to be the
Thanks, Leigh, looks like that verifies that it is the same issue. Now
I'm curious why it took Adobe til the middle of March to fix a
vulnerability that everyone else fixed by early January at the latest.
At least it is fixed.
Cheers,
Judah
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Leigh
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
Thanks, Leigh, looks like that verifies that it is the same issue. Now
I'm curious why it took Adobe til the middle of March to fix a
vulnerability that everyone
Railo has fairly new installers done by Jordan Michaels at Vivotech (a
great place to host, btw). If you haven't tried them out, you ought
to. They work quite nicely on Windows and Linux (and OS X I believe,
though I've not used them there). It takes care of the Apache setup
and installs Tomcat
The Railo 3.3/Tomcat 7 installers are available to download from here:
http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/download/
I won't be around this evening, I think, but it sounds like a
potentially interesting idea. I'm guessing you are talking about a way
wrapper that knows how to fetch and install
Hit up Scott Stroz, who does the CF Hour podcast or any of the folks
behind the CodeBass Radio station (pretty much all CF/Adobe tech
folks).
If you can't easily find their email addresses, they are all active on Twitter.
Cheers,
Judah
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Mike Kear
Not sure what kind of page you're doing, but have you looked at
cfflush? That flushes out the request buffer which can be a
significant overhead, especially in terms of perceived responsiveness,
on long running pages. I don't know for 100% certain but I believe
that that would often trigger a
Hey, I just heard Ray say that CF is dead! OMG, it must be true,
spread the word!!!
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:
*checks watch*
Yep, about time for another CF is dead thread.
*goes back to work*
A path that starts with \\ is a UNC path. UNC paths can be funky as
they are not necessarily real physical paths on your server but rather
logical paths on a mapped device, like SAN.
UNC paths should work, in general. Sometimes permissions will be
problematic with UNC paths but that shouldn't
But what happens if there is more than one node that matches your
search? Searches expect to return one or more results, which is why
it returns an array. Trying to turn what may be a complex result into
a simple string with no logic seems like an unstable approach, unless
I'm misunderstanding
Yay for XPath 2, that's good news. Just today I was wrestling with
XSLT that needed a Replace function which XPath 2 supports but XPath 1
(for some reason) does not. What kind of language doesn't have a
Replace function?
Cheers,
Judah
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Raymond Camden
that
would return multiple. You can use functions on multiple things
though. For example:
cfxml variable=test
employee
salary200/salary
salary100/salary
/employee
/cfxml
cfset r = xmlSearch(test, sum(//employee/salary))
cfdump var=#r#
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Judah McAuley ju
In CF9, there is the ApplicationStop() method which will restart the
application on the next request, thus reinitializing the application
scope.
Ben Nadel wrote up an investigation of this awhile back:
Is it returning multiple recordsets perhaps? Or possibly returning a
cursor to the recordset?
Judah
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J sd1...@att.com wrote:
Hi all,
Here is a little background... CF: ColdFusion Server Enterprise 8,0,1,195765
SQL: Microsoft SQL Server 2008
If you run the profiler and it says that it is returning the correct
number of records in the sp that was run, you could also take a look
at FusionReactor and use their JDBC wrappers to see if something is
going on at the JDBC level.
Judah
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Leigh
Not at all true, Russ.
Here's a website that I wrote in 1994 that is archived (archive.org
only has it back through 1996) that works just fine in Chrome 16, IE 9
and FireFox 8 on a Windows 7 box.
http://web.archive.org/web/19961018091409/http://babel.uoregon.edu/yamada/guides.html
None of
:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
Not at all true, Russ.
Here's a website that I wrote in 1994 that is archived (archive.org
only has it back through 1996) that works just fine in Chrome 16, IE 9
and FireFox 8 on a Windows 7 box.
http://web.archive.org/web/19961018091409/http
There is most certainly variation when it comes to standards
conformance with regards to both time and browser. None the less,
there are fairly well understood subsets that are supported (and were
back then) that form a comfortable base for most development to start.
Hence why the website I wrote
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
This doesn't entirely make sense to me, though - they're not getting
rid of Flash Builder. I also suspect that they'll subsidize some of
the open-source development, as they've done many times in the past -
the Ajax library
reason. In many ways it is like CFML, it makes hard things easy.
Write less do more etc. Same concept in many ways... Like easy is a
bad thing.
G!
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
Perhaps he's alone because he didn't ask anyone to help him. Did you
volunteer to help him? I think Judah did in this very thread, so maybe
the queue will move a bit faster.
That was actually .jonah (easy to get us
I don't know, Wil, I think that the topic of tone and tenor of
responses to mailing lists (empathy vs correctness in Rick's
terminology) is an excellent discussion for a community to have.
In general, I agree with Rick that empathy is a very positive trait to
bring to the table (in all aspects
To give a littler perspective, Irvin, I'm hiring developers currently
in one language and working on learning a couple others myself.
Right now I'm in a .Net shop and hiring a dev or two for some
projects. A number of them are web apps that need:
MVC knowledge
IOC/DI container understanding
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote:
The reason Coldfusion is dying a slow death has nothing to do with Coldfusion
itself or its capabilities (I'm a convert, remember). Coldfusion is fine. The
problem is one of perception: the overwhelming majority of people
I, for one, learned to get off Dave's lawn years ago :)
Btw, Dave, if I haven't mentioned it recently, thank you for all you
do for the community and I definitely owe you a beverage of your
choice if we happen to find ourselves in the same part of the country
at the same time one of these days.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote:
I never used the word wins. That's your perception. And no, no language
ever 'wins', but some DO die out, and that more like the argument that is
often made about CF.
Every language dies out. It is just a matter of time.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
But that's not even an attack! It's just good advice! It's the same
thing I'd tell anyone working with CF! Learning how other languages
work makes you a better developer, even if you're going to just use CF
most or all of
Good luck, God speed Irvin. So long and thanks for all the Flsh.
Cheers,
Judah
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote:
Just a brief note to announce that I'm quitting the list immediately. My mail
box has received quite a bit of truly nasty stuff as a result
I think that there would be some intentional obfuscation by other
parties regardless of how they announced it but I do also think that
the Flash is dead message comes across more clearly when the
announcement is coupled with a significant layoff announcement.
None the less, I'm really glad that
What versions of Office do you have to support? If you can get away
with only supporting Open XML doc files, you'll be able to do a lot
more. They are zip files of xml docs and resources and MS has an SDK
for working with them. You can convert them into a number of formats
through XSLT and other
Not making keynotes, but Ray Camden has a MAX presentation on Zeus
posted the Adobe TV site:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/max-2011-develop/whats-next-in-coldfusion/
Cheers,
Judah
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote:
DISCLAIMER -
I DO NOT WORK FOR ADOBE - I
Not natively that I'm aware of, however, it is easy to deal with.
script
cfoutput
var referer = #cgi.http_referer#;
/cfoutput
referer = referer.slice('/').pop();
if ( referer == 'index.cfm' )
etc
/script
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
Ok...
I haven't done it myself but I've seen several people recommend the
CFBarbecue project at RiaForge
http://cfbarbecue.riaforge.org/
Cheers,
Judah
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
Anyone had any experience with this either via CF or PHP?
Are you maybe thinking about the setting that says use J2EE sessions
and changes the CFID and CFTOKEN combo to a jsessionid token?
Judah
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
So whats this cfmagic var I'm remembering ?
Regards
Russ Michaels
From my
Without any examples, it is tough to help out.
Couple things I'll toss out as starting points:
1. Validate your HTML and your JS. It won't cure every problem but it
is an easy step and gets rid of a lot of easy to miss sources of
error.
2. If you are really looking at a mobile device (as
For historical perspective, you might also want to mention Lasso which
was contemporaneous with the origin of CF and shared very much the
same ideas. The biggest difference was that Lasso was Mac-focused and
intended to integrate with FileMaker Pro. I did Lasso dev prior to
learning CF and it was
The bit the original poster quoted didn't say it was necessarily
encrypted, just binary, so I would guess that they just mean
pre-compiled. I've done pre-compiled deployments before but it can be
a bit of a pain. The only real reason was a compile step that told me
that I wouldn't run into any
Decrypting the code might be a violation of the DMCA, it depends on
who owns the code. If it was compiled with cfcompile, instead of being
encrypted, it probably isn't going to do the OP any good.
The problem with compilation in this scenario is that cfml gets turned
into java classes which get
With Git and Mercurial, you can shelve changes. So if you are part
way through a big change and something important comes in, you can
tell the source control system to stash the current changes out of the
way, go back to your version prior to the current changes, make the
new important changes
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
With Git and Mercurial, you can shelve changes. So if you are part
way through a big change and something important comes in, you can
tell the source control system to stash the current changes out of the
way, go back to
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
remember, that cfml has to be compiled into java byte code, processed by
JRUN and then executed by the JRE, so more steps involved and JRUN certainly
uses far more system resources than ASP.
That's not much different from
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
That's not much different from what happens with ASP.NET pages. They
start as text, and have to be compiled into bytecode (MSIL, I think
it's called), then executed by the .NET runtime. And JRun using more
system
I thought you were doing a Fibonacci series.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Peter Boughton bought...@gmail.com wrote:
( Although the management can probably at least count to three correctly. :$ )
~|
Order the Adobe
I'm one of those, probably relatively few, devs that went the opposite
route, starting off in CF and then picking up C#. I didn't do CS in
college, actually any programming at all, but got a math degree so I
had the analytical skills at least and algorithmic thinking. I picked
up CF starting with
No, not really as long as you're using a cipher that hasn't been
broken. Encryption uses a special class of functions that are easy to
perform one direction but prohibitively hard to perform the other
direction. For instance, if you take two very large prime numbers and
multiply them together to
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Matt Robertson websitema...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote:
I know people who have horrible code readability and been in the same teams
for 5-10 years.
Granted. I should have said 'my' team. If
http://blog.cutterscrossing.com
Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
The best way to predict the future is to help create it
On 5/18/2011 7:03 PM, Judah McAuley wrote
Instead of going the route of using cfthread, I would suggest that you
might looking into using a queue to handle this. There are a lot of
queue options out there ( I believe that Railo uses ActiveMQ for a
bunch of things internally, don't know about Adobe) but the essential
idea is that you push
I'm going to jump in on the side of variable scoping for another
excellent reason: programmers don't tend to use words precisely and
that ends up with confusion. When we say:
variables.foo = 'bar';
we are not setting a local variable. We're setting a key and value
in the variables scope which
64-bit OS only comes into play if you are going to be taking advantage
of a lot of ram. If you are doing under 4 gigs for the box, there is
no reason for a 64-bit OS, go with 32-bit.
Judah
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
Quick question: Does the 64
Well, it is pretty damn funny.
I've migrated from MS SQL to MySql before and it generally isn't too
bad. There are various migration tools available, I like the ones from
Red Gate. MySql has some funkiness that comes into play if you want to
combine foreign keys and full text indexing from what
Or possibly Jordan has needed a database that runs on more than 1 CPU,
uses more than 1GB of RAM or has a db size of more than 10GB :)
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
Perhaps you tried to run MSSQL on linux Jordan, that would certainly
be humorous I
with MySQL.
The FREE editions of both will meet most peoples needs even with their
limitations, it is really not very common to have databases of 10GB that
needs more than 1GB RAM or more than 1CPU, then you probably be using the
FREE editions anyway.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Judah
If you have a VM or something outside of their network, then you could
set up an SSH tunnel and do port forwarding, having your local port 25
get tunneled over to the remote machine and then sent out from there.
Judah
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Al Musella, DPM
muse...@virtualtrials.com
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 11:10 AM, wrote:
cfqueryparam creates bound sql parameters, which improve query performance.
This is purely theoretical, in practice, the gain in performance is
neglectible.
I prefer have a query to take 11 ms and see the values submitted in case of
error, than
Start here, Michael:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/224722/new_commodore_64_is_finally_herefor_real.html
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:
And I'm willing to pay for a C-64 version of Halo 3.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Jeff Gladnick
And while there isn't anything inherently bad about iframes, people
considering that route should look into the potential security issues
involved. Browsers have really tightened up their security around
hidden iframes, cross domain http communication, cross domain cookies,
etc. Once again, not
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
security measures that block cross domain communication would also block
XmlHttpRequest as well, otherwise it would be pointless.
Yes, in general, but with XmlHttpRequest you can get around some of
the restrictions by
I would use jQuery (or javascript framework of your choice like dojo,
mootools, etc). Have an image on your page. Attach an OnClick event to
it. Inside the OnClick, do an ajax post to the remote server. On
success, swap out the image with another image indicating success. On
failure, probably
I think you linked to the Beta 1.5 release.
Here is the blog article for Beta 2:
http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/3/30/Neptune-Framework-in-Beta-2
Good job, Steve, this looks like an interesting project. I shall have
to check it out.
Cheers,
Judah
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Al Musella, DPM
muse...@virtualtrials.com wrote:
I would love to see a good open source CF medical office
management program that includes electronic medical records as well as
billing.
There is a php based attempt going on at
If you are using CF 9 or Railo, I'd look into the new caching
functions. CF9 uses ehCache if I recall. Railo can use ehCache,
memcached and a couple of others. You can serialize your query, do an
SHA1 hash of the serialized object to use as a key, put the query into
the cache with the hash as the
You might also take a look at the GIS capabilities that are now baked
into sever DB systems. MS SQL 2008 and the newer versions of PostGres
come to mind as having native support for geographic data. A lot of it
will come down to figuring out your actual requirements, which seem to
be rather fuzzy
Are you looking for help on the db part or constructing the UI display or both?
When it comes to the DB part, I listen to Joe Celko. That dude knows
way more about databases and SQL than any person ought to. Here's an
article of his on messing with hierarchical data in SQL:
There are lots of options out there for making phone calls and
utilizing a text to speech engine or pre-recorded wav file. I use a
company called Voxeo to generate automated outbound reminder calls and
such. They have purchased a couple new providers in the last year or
two and added a lot of
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Robert Harrison
rob...@austin-williams.com wrote:
There's the rub. We can't send the police a text and they don't monitor
email. It has to be a voice message. It could even be a canned message.
The concept is very cool, but whatever your message is how are
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote:
That's the beauty of refactoring, though. Unless you need to, don't. And
if no other method is calling it (or expected to call it), then it is not
needed. If it becomes needed, refactor and add it in. :-)
I
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote:
Damn! Mike Kear and Michael Grant, both? In the same thread?!?!?!
THE HEAVENS HAVE OPENED! :-)
For what it's worth, I think that the move seems pretty reasonable to
me. I appreciate the hard work that Adam has
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote:
That's one way to look at it. But the much more likely view (and the one
Adobe sees) is that the people who think he's guilty of bad behavior are
not only a tiny minority, but are also wrong.
Perhaps I have a
Fascinating. I guess things work differently there than anywhere else
I've been. Thank you for clearing that up.
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote:
Only if said employee was posting in the context of their position, and not
responding personally to a
You want to know why I've been moving my projects from Adobe CF to
Railo, Adam? It's quite simple, really. Railo is a better product for
me. I've not had a very good experience with Adobe as a cfml developer
and I've had a much better experience with Railo as a cfml developer.
Yes, even with a
You have it exactly backwards, Brian. Adam accused the Open Source
cfml community of being abusive toward Adobe.
And I quote from Adam: The open CF side of the community couldn't
be more abusive
towards Adobe. It's laughable to think that the community holding the OS
vendors accountable would
Thank you, Dave, I missed that bit. When I read Adam's post he wasn't
directly quoting another post so I had not connected his statement to
that of Russ'
Personally, I don't think that anyone has been terribly mean to anyone
else by historic tech debate standards. I did challenge Adam on his
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Brian Kotek brian...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
You have it exactly backwards, Brian. Adam accused the Open Source
cfml community of being abusive toward Adobe.
Actually, Judah, I don't have
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Adrocknaphobia
adrocknapho...@gmail.com wrote:
Judah,
You can complain all you want about a small faction trying to recklessly
tear down the
community but that's bullshit.
All I did was explain what's at risk for CFML developers. You didn't argue
any of
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Adrocknaphobia
adrocknapho...@gmail.com wrote:
If you think we are in a better place, then please ignore me. Just please
don't get bent out of shape when Adobe recognizes Railo/OpenBD as a
direct competitor. I think Judah provided a perfect example of why
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
And if you go on mailing lists for those other products,
you don't find developers talking about what's used on what web sites,
and how that reflects on anything meaningful.
This isn't actually true at all, Dave. To give
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Adrocknaphobia
adrocknapho...@gmail.com wrote:
Russ,
You're preaching to the choir... well except for that last part which is
ridiculous. The open CF side of the community couldn't be more abusive
towards Adobe. It's laughable to think that the community
Who has been abusive toward Adobe? I've seen some people question
their commitment to the product because of a perceived lack of
marketing muscle. And there was a big discussion about pricing on
CFBuilder. Most of both of those discussions, however, came from Adobe
CF license holders. The folks
I've seen plenty of anti-commercial software vitriol out there in OSS
communities but I haven't seen it in the open cfml community. I would
say that many (probably most?) people who are participating in open
source side of CF (Railo, CFEclipse, OpenBD, projects on RIAForge,
etc) have been cfml
It's like making love in a canoe.
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote:
On behalf of my friends in Wisconsin... what's wrong with Old Milwaukee?
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