Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Jon Duggan
Lewis Sent: 22 February 2010 21:00 To: Seth Mattinen Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Seth Mattinen wrote: Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only way to get that functionality back is a 6500

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 04:59:38 am Jon Lewis wrote: Not just any 6500. If you want similar (to the 3550) ability to police at arbitrary rates via service-policy in both directions, you need a Sup720. That's why for pure Layer 2 Ethernet switching, I'm happy with both the Cisco 3560G

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 04:07:17 am Jon Lewis wrote: And that's the issue. Normally, progress means newer gear supports the features of older gear plus new features. In this case, egress policing took a large step backwards. As did SVI support for BFD on the 6500 on later code, but

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Devon True
On Feb 22, 2010, at 17:14, Tom Lanyon t...@netspot.com.au wrote: On 23/02/2010, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Kell wrote: On 2/22/2010 3:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only way to get that functionality back is a 6500, and that's a *huge* step.

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 06:35:11AM -0500, Devon True wrote: The 4948 does support input and output service policies. -- Devon But does not support IPv6 in hardware, IIRC. Something to keep in mind. -- Brandon Ewing(nicot...@warningg.com)

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 2010-02-23 11:28, Jon Duggan wrote: Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe you can achieve this with sup32 also (i think you need pfc3, which the sup32 has), which is much cheaper than the 720. Exactly. Policing (and QoS in general) is a function of a PFC. -- Everything will be okay in the

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 06:23:26PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: As did SVI support for BFD on the 6500 on later code, but let me not wake Gert and others :-). Ho humm, I was visiting Cisco Munich today, but I didn't even get to *that* point. When I started ranting to the AM present about the

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:41:18 +0100, you wrote: I have no idea how to get that point (BFD is good! make it happen! on SVI!) across to the relevant people... *sigh* The SP people do get it, and I'm sure it's now (again) roadmapped for the 7600, where it's relevant. Whether it'll ever show up on

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:42:17AM +0100, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote: On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:41:18 +0100, you wrote: I have no idea how to get that point (BFD is good! make it happen! on SVI!) across to the relevant people... *sigh* The SP people do get it, and I'm sure it's now

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-23 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:29:54 +0100, you wrote: The SP people do get it, and I'm sure it's now (again) roadmapped for the 7600, where it's relevant. Whether it'll ever show up on a campus switch (6500) may be another story. Now that you mention it. I did not rant over the BU split for at

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday 22 February 2010 07:22:13 am Phil Mayers wrote: We use a pair of 3750s with ipv6 BGP (talking to a vpnv6 peering on a 6500 in fact); image is: C3750-IPSERVICESK9-M, Version 12.2(52)SE If only they had v6 support for IS-IS in this code for the switches. Pipeline, hope it's no

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday 22 February 2010 09:19:01 am Bill Blackford wrote: I'm using EX3200's in this role (OSPF, BGP customer aggregation). My only issue with the EX3200's is the last 4-port tax when you use a 4x 1Gbps uplink module. Otherwise, we've been happy with them - the code has been terrible for

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, TCIS List Acct wrote: We've got a boatload of 3550-EMI's (for colo/server aggregation duties) and are looking at replacing them in the next 12-24 months The C3750G-24/48-E series seem to be a good upgrade path (all gig ports, layer3 routing, IPv6 support, fairly easy to

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Randy McAnally
(EST) Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, TCIS List Acct wrote: We've got a boatload of 3550-EMI's (for colo/server aggregation duties) and are looking at replacing them in the next 12-24 months The C3750G-24/48-E series seem to be a good upgrade path (all

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Randy McAnally wrote: We've always used in/out policing without any issues on physical interfaces on our 3750G's. With what sorts of police rates and with what syntax (on egress)? -- Jon Lewis

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Randy McAnally
--- From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org To: Randy McAnally r...@fast-serv.com Cc: cisco-nsp cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:24:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Randy McAnally wrote: We've always used in/out policing without

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Randy McAnally wrote: interface GigabitEthernet1/0/8 switchport access vlan 24 spanning-tree portfast service-policy input 10Mbps ! Right...but on the 3750, can you interface GigabitEthernet1/0/8 switchport access vlan 24 spanning-tree portfast service-policy input

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Randy McAnally
...@lewis.org To: Randy McAnally r...@fast-serv.com Cc: cisco-nsp cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:39:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Randy McAnally wrote: interface GigabitEthernet1/0/8 switchport access vlan 24 spanning-tree

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Randy McAnally wrote: Correct..input only: Switch(config-if)#service-policy output 10Mbps police command is not supported for this interface Configuration failed! Warning: Assigning a policy map to the output side of an interface not supported And that's the issue.

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/22/10 12:07 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Randy McAnally wrote: Correct..input only: Switch(config-if)#service-policy output 10Mbps police command is not supported for this interface Configuration failed! Warning: Assigning a policy map to the output side of an interface

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, Seth Mattinen wrote: Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only way to get that functionality back is a 6500, and that's a *huge* step. Not just any 6500. If you want similar (to the 3550) ability to police at arbitrary rates via service-policy in

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Jeff Kell
On 2/22/2010 3:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only way to get that functionality back is a 6500, and that's a *huge* step. Umm, 4500 Sup-IV appears to support input/output (or at least doesn't bitch at the configs in a quick test...).

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Tom Lanyon
On 23/02/2010, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Kell wrote: On 2/22/2010 3:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only way to get that functionality back is a 6500, and that's a *huge* step. Umm, 4500 Sup-IV appears to support input/output (or at least

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/22/10 2:14 PM, Tom Lanyon wrote: On 23/02/2010, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Kell wrote: On 2/22/2010 3:45 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know the only way to get that functionality back is a 6500, and that's a *huge* step. Umm, 4500 Sup-IV appears to

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread sthaug
We've got a boatload of 3550-EMI's (for colo/server aggregation duties) and are looking at replacing them in the next 12-24 months The C3750G-24/48-E series seem to be a good upgrade path (all gig ports, layer3 routing, IPv6 support, fairly easy to source on the used market) -- curious

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread TCIS List Acct
We currently aren't doing any QoS, and a limited amount of policing. Besides the C3750G, are there any other switches worth a look? We're a mixed Juniper/Cisco shop, so I've been looking at the EX3200 line as well. We need something that will do OSPF and limited BGP (just to announce

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread Tony Varriale
- Original Message - From: TCIS List Acct lista...@tulsaconnect.com To: sth...@nethelp.no Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; jle...@lewis.org Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? We currently aren't doing any QoS, and a limited amount

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread TCIS List Acct
@puck.nether.net; jle...@lewis.org Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? We currently aren't doing any QoS, and a limited amount of policing. Besides the C3750G, are there any other switches worth a look? We're a mixed Juniper/Cisco shop, so I've been

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread TCIS List Acct
Varriale wrote: - Original Message - From: TCIS List Acct lista...@tulsaconnect.com To: sth...@nethelp.no Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; jle...@lewis.org Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? We currently aren't doing any QoS

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:37:29 -0600, you wrote: Also, we've been looking more towards the Cisco's because the Juniper EX series seem to require a feature license for even basic BGP on the 2200/3200 series. Så does Cisco. BGP is in IP Services on the switches. -A

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread John van Oppen
Acct Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:37:29 -0600, you wrote: Also, we've been looking more towards the Cisco's because the Juniper EX series seem to require a feature license for even basic BGP on the 2200/3200 series. Så does

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread Phil Mayers
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:05:15PM +, John van Oppen wrote: Do either the 3550s or 3750s do ipv6 BGP? My read of the specifications is that they don't but a real world confirmation would be nice as we are trying to figure out if we need to move in the direction of force10 (which clearly

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread Bill Blackford
, 2010 1:20 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? - Original Message - From: TCIS List Acct lista...@tulsaconnect.com To: sth...@nethelp.no Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; jle...@lewis.org Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-21 Thread Randy McAnally
...@comcast.net, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:19:01 -0800 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? I'm using EX3200's in this role (OSPF, BGP customer aggregation). I do like how the EX4200's can do dual power and/or VC. -b -Original Message

[c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Jeff Bacon
They seem to be an incredibly popular device, especially for telcos as CPE devices. Why? (I have no use for them, really, and they appear to be EOL, I'm just really curious.) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Jeff Bacon wrote: They seem to be an incredibly popular device, especially for telcos as CPE devices. Why? (I have no use for them, really, and they appear to be EOL, I'm just really curious.) They're one of cisco's earliest (first?) inexpensive fixed configuration layer

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Eric Van Tol
-Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Bacon Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:03 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? They seem to be an incredibly popular

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Ian McDonald
Jeff Bacon wrote: They seem to be an incredibly popular device, especially for telcos as CPE devices. Why? (I have no use for them, really, and they appear to be EOL, I'm just really curious.) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Turnbow
-Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Bacon Sent: mercoledì 3 febbraio 2010 18.03 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? They seem to be an incredibly popular device

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Cory Ayers
They seem to be an incredibly popular device, especially for telcos as CPE devices. Why? (I have no use for them, really, and they appear to be EOL, I'm just really curious.) They can do full layer 3 routing, have a diverse selection of model numbers, do decent QoS, and are cheap,

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/3/10 12:01 PM, Eric Van Tol wrote: -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jon Lewis Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:30 PM To: Cory Ayers Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Brandon Ewing
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 03:01:33PM -0500, Eric Van Tol wrote: Are you sure about this? I thought that 12.2(44)SE2 has IPv6 support: Switch1(config)#ipv6 ? access-list Configure access lists general-prefix Configure a general IPv6 prefix hop-limitConfigure hop count

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread sthaug
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:01:33 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.netcisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jon Lewis Sent: Wednesday

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Eric Van Tol
-Original Message- From: sth...@nethelp.no [mailto:sth...@nethelp.no] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:19 PM To: e...@edgeoc.net Cc: Eric Van Tol; cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net; cisco- n...@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? That is in SW only

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Eric Van Tol wrote: Yes, the 3550 has no *hardware* support for IPv6 routing. End of story. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no Yes, this is true. But what was said was, You're not going to see IPv6 routing support on the 3550 AFAIK. I wouldn't turn it

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s? (was: QQ

2010-02-03 Thread Randy McAnally
Don't the 3550 have some pretty big TCAM and routed VLAN limitations compared to their 3560/3750 counterparts? -- Randy -- Original Message --- From: Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu To: cisco-nsp cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Sent: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:33:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [c-nsp

Re: [c-nsp] what is it with 3550s?

2010-02-03 Thread Larry Stites
A quick search through our inventory and I see current used market prices are: WS-C3550-12G $675/ea - $875/ea WS-C3550-24PWR-SMI - $350/ea - $450/ea WS-C3550-48-EMI $315/ea - $450/ea WS-C3550-48-SMI $250/ea - $350/ea ~.~ Best regards, Larry E. Stites Acquisitions and Sales Northern