Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Daniel Hooper
Your large hotel chain techs sound like a bunch of gumbies, any tech worth their salt would poll their own equipment and not the providers. Provider: Lets feed them dummy snmp counters Customer: hey your billing me for 500gb of traffic!! Provider: yes.. don't your graphs reflect this? ;) -Dan

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread troy
I know that we have come across this a few times. Here is what we have in place (policy wise) for these kind of customers. 1) If the router is owned by us, the customer does not get the passwords or SNMP strings. Should the customer want to purchase said router from us, we are more than happy to

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 08:40:42PM -0400, Sridhar Ayengar wrote: Do you have a written contract that covers any of these issues? If so, and they indeed still want that kind of access, they will have to accept your terms. Otherwise you're leaving yourself open to situations where they

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Richey: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cisco-nsp- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richey Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:38 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear. I've got a customer with a T1. They have

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
We provide RO snmp views to specific customers, as long as they know which exactly oids they need to monitor. That way they're limited to specific portions of the snmp mibs. -- Tassos Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote on 4/6/2008 10:13 πμ: Hello Richey: -Original Message- From:

Re: [c-nsp] difference between bandwidth and priority command inpolicy

2008-06-04 Thread Ziv Leyes
I've always had a problem with the semantics of this, perhaps I need to go back to highschool? Or perhaps Cisco programmers instead?? When I say this link will have this bandwidth it sounds to me like it's a dedicated bandwidth that limits the link to the given value. When I say priority I

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies. I am getting the feeling that after talking to our sales guy who is dealing with them that they want to second guess everything I am doing because we are a small ISP and not the big billion dollar a year

Re: [c-nsp] ACL making me insane

2008-06-04 Thread Robert Blayzor
On Jun 3, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote: no ip access-list extended FWCUST_XXX_IN ip access-list extended FWCUST_XXX_IN remark Inbound Firewall rules for XXX Services permit tcp any host PROTECTEDSERVER established permit tcp host ALLOWEDREMOTE host PROTECTEDSERVER eq 3389 permit tcp

[c-nsp] question about memory

2008-06-04 Thread Ziv Leyes
Hi, Could somebody shortly explain or point me to some info about the different router memory types? What are transient contiguous largest free, etc? I understand more or less what they areI've never had a proper explanation for all those concept, and if I need to explain this to someone I find

Re: [c-nsp] ACL making me insane

2008-06-04 Thread Ziv Leyes
There's no way to use established for UDP though, so I can share what works for me, I call them operational rules because they suit everything I need to allow that is host initiated/related for its own functionality, of course you could add some more rules to permit other tcp/udp ports to reach

Re: [c-nsp] Solution to %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR, except disable spanning tree?

2008-06-04 Thread Peter Olsson
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:34:10PM -0600, Clinton Work wrote: I think that you need to speak with your service provider. Based upon the error message it looks like vlan 2412 at site #1 is connected to vlan 2413 at site #2. There was a post six to 12 months ago on the same topic and it

[c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging prematurely

2008-06-04 Thread Phil Mayers
All, We use nfdump/nfsen to gather our flows. The nfcap daemon writes the flows to 5-minute-window files, the filename being the *start* of the 5-minute window. If I look at e.g. nfcapd.200806041235 I see the following distribution of flow *end* times: 732 2008-06-04 12:29 16492

Re: [c-nsp] ACL making me insane

2008-06-04 Thread Robert Blayzor
On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Ziv Leyes wrote: There's no way to use established for UDP though, so I can share what works for me, I call them operational rules because they suit everything I need to allow that is host initiated/related for its own functionality, of course you could add some

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging prematurely

2008-06-04 Thread Phil Mayers
Ben Hicks wrote: Forgive me if I'm missing something but you are looking at the actual end times of the TCP flows, not the exports (which happen continuously in chunks anyway). The flows will be reported as they end. So a 30 second connection will be reported once its finished, not at the end

Re: [c-nsp] question about memory

2008-06-04 Thread Rodney Dunn
Transient is when you use memory for a brief amount of time and free it back. Say during a large routing reconvergence event. Contiguous is in regards to blocks. It means it's a block of memory in adjacent locations in memory and not fragmented in different spots for the same block of data.

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging prematurely

2008-06-04 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
A flow is exported when : 1) it is inactive for a specific time (default 15 secs)* 2) it is active and has lasted longer than a specific time (default 30 mins)* 3) a TCP flag (FIN/RST?) is received, indicating that the flow is terminated (*) 6500 uses different timers, if i remember right.. --

Re: [c-nsp] question about memory

2008-06-04 Thread Ziv Leyes
That was short and simple enough to understand Thanks! Ziv -Original Message- From: Rodney Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:49 PM To: Ziv Leyes Cc: cisco-nsp Subject: Re: [c-nsp] question about memory Transient is when you use memory for a brief amount of

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging prematurely

2008-06-04 Thread Phil Mayers
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: A flow is exported when : 1) it is inactive for a specific time (default 15 secs)* I don't think that's correct. I think the default is 300 seconds. 2) it is active and has lasted longer than a specific time (default 30 mins)* Sure; that's not this 3) a TCP

Re: [c-nsp] ICMP PAT

2008-06-04 Thread Everton da Silva Marques
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 12:23:32AM +0300, Ibrahim Abo Zaid wrote: Hi Oli I read that @ http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk648/tk361/tk438/technologies_white_paper09186a00801af2b9.html best regards --Abo Zaid On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) [EMAIL

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging prematurely

2008-06-04 Thread Phil Mayers
Ben Hicks wrote: From http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6555/ps6601/prod_white_paper0900aecd80406232.html -The NetFlow cache is constantly filling with flows and software in the router or switch is searching the cache for flows that have terminated or expired and

Re: [c-nsp] Solution to %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR, except disable spanning tree?

2008-06-04 Thread Benjamin.Conconi
We had a similar problem a time ago. We did some tests with a cisco es20 linecard and eompls services. This card has a feature called vlan-translation were you can translate one vlan to a other. So we had a setup like this |-||---||-| |2960 |--Vlan

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 NDE aging prematurely

2008-06-04 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
The numbers/reasons given are for software platforms. This is the default output from a 7200: 7200#sh ip cache flow | i timeout Active flows timeout in 30 minutes Inactive flows timeout in 15 seconds On the 6500, the NDE is a different story, but according to Cisco:

Re: [c-nsp] ACL making me insane

2008-06-04 Thread Fred Reimer
What platform is this on again? If you want to use a Cisco IOS router as a firewall, why don't you use the firewall features and configure CBAC? Fred Reimer, CISSP, CCNP, CQS-VPN, CQS-ISS Senior Network Engineer Coleman Technologies, Inc. 954-298-1697 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [c-nsp] Solution to %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR, except disable spanning tree?

2008-06-04 Thread Fred Reimer
The provider may not support PVST+ or Rapid PVST+. Fred Reimer, CISSP, CCNP, CQS-VPN, CQS-ISS Senior Network Engineer Coleman Technologies, Inc. 954-298-1697 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04,

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Rick Martin
Troy wrote in part; 2) If the customer wants to provide a their own router, they may do so and eliminate this issue. Basic configs are provided and any support beyond that is billed at $150 per hour, minimum 1 hour. What is your routing policy when a customer owns their own router and

Re: [c-nsp] Solution to %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR, except disable spanning tree?

2008-06-04 Thread Joe Freeman
The provider doesn't have to support it. In fact, from what the OP said, it sounds like the provider has enabled control protocol tunneling across his metro-e cloud. It also sounds like they are using a solution that requires some form of cross-connect config in the cloud and have cross connected

Re: [c-nsp] Solution to %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR, except disable spanning tree?

2008-06-04 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Is the provider using some kind of 802.1q tunneling to pass your traffic across its network? If yes, have they enabled L2PT for STP? Can you check if STP is working fine (as a single domain) for a single vlan? Do you see a common root in both edge switches? Can you provide the config from

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Rick Martin wrote: What is your routing policy when a customer owns their own router and connects it to your network? In our case we discourage customer owned routers but we do not totally ban it. Our policy is that we do not share any dynamic routing protocol with routers

Re: [c-nsp] ICMP PAT

2008-06-04 Thread Rodney Dunn
I couldn't make that happen in the lab: R1_# *Jun 4 14:40:55.344: NAT*: i: icmp (1.1.1.1, 6) - (2.2.2.2, 6) [25] *Jun 4 14:40:55.344: NAT*: i: icmp (1.1.1.1, 6) - (2.2.2.2, 6) [25] *Jun 4 14:40:55.344: NAT*: s=1.1.1.1-192.168.1.1, d=2.2.2.2 [25] *Jun 4 14:40:55.348: NAT*: i: icmp (1.1.1.1, 6)

Re: [c-nsp] Solution to %SPANTREE-2-RECV_PVID_ERR, except disable spanning tree?

2008-06-04 Thread Clinton Work
Cisco PVST+ / RPVST do integrate the vlan ID into the bridge priority (bit stealing), but that is a function of MAC reduction to support 4096 VLANs rather than PVST+ proper. MAC reduction will do the same thing with regular 802.1d BPDU priority values and you can interconnection two Vlans

[c-nsp] Source failure in PIM SSM

2008-06-04 Thread alaerte.vidali
Hi, Any recommendation for docs handling source failure when PIM SSM is used? Example: Source 1.1.1.1, group 239.1.1.1 -R1R2--PC_joined 239.1.1.1 using IGMPv2 R2 has SSM mapping group 239.1.1.1 to sorce 1.1.1.1 I have seem 2 options: Anycast and Prioritycast. Would like to here

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread John Osmon
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:12:33AM -0500, Rick Martin wrote: [...] What is your routing policy when a customer owns their own router and connects it to your network? We try to stick to the idea that everyone gets s single connection to us (ethernet, T1, DSL, whatever). We expect a layer 3

[c-nsp] Setting weight on import into vrf

2008-06-04 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi, Should the following work on a 6500 (12.2(18)SXF10): ip vrf custxxx rd :110118 import map IMPORT-INTO-CUSTXXX route-target import yyy:110 route-target export yyy:110 route-map IMPORT-INTO-CUSTXXX permit 10 match extcommunity 110 set weight 100 ip extcommunity-list 110 permit

Re: [c-nsp] Setting weight on import into vrf

2008-06-04 Thread David Barak
Original Message From: Pshem Kowalczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Is there a way to make it work with weight or should I use something else to influence the decision? Given that weight won't be communicated between the PE routers, I wouldn't recommend using it in this case - local_preference

[c-nsp] bgp router

2008-06-04 Thread Rossella Mariotti-Jones
Hello all, we're looking to buy a router on which to run BGP that can take full BGP routes, I know all Cisco routers (1800 up) with Advanced IP services IOS will do BGP and I've been told that if we max out the memory we'll be fine with any router. We're going to need some ports (up to 24) in this

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Sam Stickland
Richey wrote: I've got a customer with a T1. They have been bought out by a large hotel chain. They are pretty much demanding that they have SNMP full read access to our router that is at their location as well as a copy of the config for the router. This is not their router, it is ours and

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Sam Stickland
Rick Martin wrote: What is your routing policy when a customer owns their own router and connects it to your network? In our case we discourage customer owned routers but we do not totally ban it. Our policy is that we do not share any dynamic routing protocol with routers not under our

Re: [c-nsp] bgp router

2008-06-04 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Rossella Mariotti-Jones wrote: Hello all, we're looking to buy a router on which to run BGP that can take full BGP routes, I know all Cisco routers (1800 up) with Advanced IP services IOS will do BGP and I've been told that if we max out the memory we'll be fine with any

Re: [c-nsp] Source failure in PIM SSM

2008-06-04 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi, I don't think there's much more than that, any other technology would be some kind of prioritycast, it's just about how to make one route more preferable than the other, different metrics, different prefix length etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cisco-nsp-

[c-nsp] Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco PIX and Cisco ASA

2008-06-04 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco PIX and Cisco ASA Document ID: 105444 Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20080604-asa http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20080604-asa.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2008 June 04 1600

Re: [c-nsp] Giving customers access to your gear.

2008-06-04 Thread Justin Shore
Richey wrote: I've got a customer with a T1. They have been bought out by a large hotel chain. They are pretty much demanding that they have SNMP full read access to our router that is at their location as well as a copy of the config for the router. This is not their router, it is ours and

[c-nsp] Forcing routes

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Roberton
I have a customer who is multihomed to my network. He has RouterX. I have R1 and R2 connected to his RouterX. My R1 is in AS1 and my R2 is in AS2. I want to sent him a BGP advertisement in such a way that he always prefers to use R1. I cannot use MEDs as the AS numbers of my R1 and R2 are

Re: [c-nsp] Forcing routes

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Roberton
How do you mean? On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Maarten Moerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, AS-path prepending? Maarten -- Sr. Network Engineer | eBay / Marktplaats.nl Wibautstraat 224 | 1097 DN | Amsterdam E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mobile: +31 6 55 1 222 47 On 6/4/08 6:35

Re: [c-nsp] Forcing routes

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Roberton
I assume you mean to prepend AS2 on R2 so that RouterX receives the path AS2, AS2, from R2, therefore making the path seem longer and following the normal BGP algorithm. Is this what you meant? On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Maarten Moerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gary, AS-path

[c-nsp] interrupt cpu // processor routed packets

2008-06-04 Thread bill fumerola
folks, at $WORK we use 7301s as border routers at our sites. recently, we've seen an uptick in cpu. it's too difficult to isolate the change that was made, but it's our belief that some feature or option has caused a majority of packets to be run through the processor as opposed to through

[c-nsp] Cisco IOS recommendation: 3750G

2008-06-04 Thread Deepak Jain
Any recommendations on a version of IP advanced services (i.e. without memory leaks)? Thanks in advance, Deepak ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at

Re: [c-nsp] WS-X6608-T1 for data?

2008-06-04 Thread Alex Moya
It Is supported on ios and it runs ios code Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is basically, can the WS-X6608-T1 support traditional data T1's? No. It's a dedicated voice gateway for Call Manager. Does it require

Re: [c-nsp] Forcing routes

2008-06-04 Thread Diogo Montagner
Hi Gary, you can use bgp always-compare-med. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094925.shtml Regards, Diogo On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Gary Roberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a customer who is multihomed to my network. He has RouterX. I have

Re: [c-nsp] WS-X6608-T1 for data?

2008-06-04 Thread Fred Reimer
You're thinking of the CMM, not the 6608. It is not supported in Native IOS. It must run on a box running Hybrid - CatOS on the SP and IOS on the RP. Fred Reimer, CISSP, CCNP, CQS-VPN, CQS-ISS Senior Network Engineer Coleman Technologies, Inc. 954-298-1697 -Original Message- From:

[c-nsp] IOS JUNOS MPLS-TE interoperability

2008-06-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
Hi, Does anyone has experience with MPLS-TE interoperability between IOS (specifically ME6500, but it's probably like any other 12.2SX IOS) and JUNOS (recent/stable/good-for-service-providers version) ? I was wondering about 2 cenarios in particular: 1) JUNOS as head-end or tail-end, but not

[c-nsp] CPU FLOPS Performance / Utilization

2008-06-04 Thread Mehmet Suzen
Hi All, I'm after the information on conventional floating point operation per second (FLOPS) of Cisco Routers, let say mid-range to enterprise models. Pointer to detailed documents will be appreciated greatly. Greetings, Mehmet Suzen ___ cisco-nsp

[c-nsp] rspan from a cat 2950

2008-06-04 Thread Daniel Hooper
Hi, Can someone explain the role of the reflector port when configuring an rspan session on a 2950 switch? Does the port need to be up? From what I can work out from the doco the port is put into a loopback state so no device connected to it will pass any packets. I have a remote switch, 70

[c-nsp] OT: Broadcast segment on provider customer edge

2008-06-04 Thread roy
Hi List, Apologies. Off-topic [probably not even one of BCPs], but, I'll push my luck anyways. What are gotcha's of implementing a broadcast network on provider customer edge? Your thoughts please. Thanks, Roy ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

[c-nsp] EoMPLS - 6509

2008-06-04 Thread Daniel Hooper
Hi, I've been offered some cheap 6509's with the following kit (this is all the info I have at the moment on them) WS-C6509 Chassis 9 Slots Dual Redundant AC Power Maximum Uptime Supervisor 2 Engine with PFC2 and MSFC2 Dual Gig Uplink Port MultiLayer 96 10/100 Fast Ethernet Switching Ports 8

[c-nsp] configuring RFC1948 on the ASA 5505

2008-06-04 Thread Jerry Kemp
Is it possible to configure to configure RFC 1948 sequence number generation on a Cisco ASA 5505 firewall? A recent nmap port scan shows TCP sequence prediction to be Difficulty=0 (Trivial joke). I did RTFM both Cisco and did several Yahoo searches, and did not turn up anything of value.