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better features that the current live one. However, I don't have the
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years), tested it fully, and then migrated all the users and their
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for the simple reason that I'd have been able to deal with it.
An old version of ClamAV can't find the newest viruses. The really
old ones don't run in the wild anymore.
For half the day I've been forced to detect no virus's. Now I'm only
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of which
packages to roll back to (which had been deleted from the repos - now
I keep backup copies !)
So keeping up to date has it's own risks - hence why many people take
the attitude of if it aint broke, don't fix it.
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to build clam on Sarge (I've just verified that is true).
If your going to try this next week the following may help...
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It's broke
It is now
please go fix it.
I will, now I know about it. But it would have been nice to do it at
a more convenient time, and with advance notice so I could use it to
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metal recovery of any of my Xen hosts,
otherwise I've potentially quite a few machines to restore. I can of
course restore all of them as they were from regular backups - I
wouldn't want to try and rebuild them all against the clock.
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every update automatically. And then just fix things as they break -
how I love watching the going on on patch Tuesdays :-)
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the policy decisions
I've taken.
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until I can fix it.
I can think of two other ways this could have been done, with very
little effort, and with little or no inconvenience to what you would
consider superior admins. That's irrelevant now, you've done what
you've done and it's not going to be undone.
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, and a responsibility to try and make as many
owners/users aware of the risks - but it is still the owner/users
decision on whether that risk is acceptable TO THEM.
They were even nice enough to give months of warnings.
The efficacy of such is subject to a certain amount of debate.
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users - and this has been the justification for their approach to
this issue. But at the very same time they are recommending a setup
which will silently not scan mail if there's a problem with ClamAV.
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- not in
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mailing lists and so on. And of course, taking every opportunity to
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of people's objections - apart from
choosing the option they did, at least in these threads, the argument
has been that there was **NO** other option, which quite frankly
was never accepted as true or reasonable.
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party packages with Software Update -
as far as the user is concerned, this is an Apple supplied package
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is available to all
- either like it or lump it, but either way, keep your insults to
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major broadcaster deciding to go digital - and
then comeing round to blow up your radio to stop
you listening to the local station you actually
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possible way they
could have acted.
Even now when their stance has been shown to be full of logical
holes, they still persist that anyone disagreeing with their we did
nothing wrong stance are a bunch of whining losers.
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this. You better upgrade, sorry ! By warning people and releaseing a
known-bad signature with a message, somehow it's their fault now.
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an implicit
permission by virtue of the user running the update process to fetch
signature updates. That's a very tenuous thing to infer when pushing
an update that is so different in purpose to what would normally be
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with suggested such a thing then I would
speak up on that.
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*.deb
(you can skip docs and testfiles)
apt-get -f install
if some deps is broken
ah forgot, then
dpkg --purge libclamav3
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it with updates, that's
fine and it still leaves me in control of what I run and when I
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the warnings that updates have stopped working. If
they ignore things aren't working errors then I'd agree with you -
let them deal with it. I don't agree with the argument that things
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a moot point - the team didn't do that, we are where we are,
and a lot of people are unhappy for various reasons.
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stop
when ClamAV does - even though that is logically inconsistent with
the argument that old versions couldn't be allowed to continue
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that harm first hand - the motive and end
results were identical, only the means differs.
Actions designed to cause harm to a computer system, and a criminal
offence in the UK.
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updates that are working ?
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than just can't be done. Now the external factors
have been pointed out, that is somewhat harder than it first
appears. See, contrary to what some people may be thinking, I can be
persuaded by **reasoned** debate.
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work out the scale of the problem - ie how many installations were
still accessing the old names vs the new names.
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would have been viable.
The rest of your response rather reinforces Marks point.
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**was** going to break sooner or later **given the decision
to make it do so**
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ah forgot, then
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means of reverting back if something goes wrong.
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, being a good netizen, and allowing users to do
their jobs.
Having said all that, in this case, I'm inclined to agree that the
requested functionality isn't really a generally useful think to be
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pros and cons - you would have to work which is best for you.
I hope this gives you some idea of the process involved, and why there is
inevitably a delay before an update appears when you apt-get update apt-get
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should be rejected if it can't be scanned -
seems a reasonable question to me. The OP didn't say is it possible
for ClamAV to reject the message, they rather correctly asked about
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I guess that's the key question, and is it possible to set the
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can we do this?
You can't - it's not there to scan before it's been uploaded. You'd
need to look at the software being used and get it to scan all new
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If it is not possible to set up clamAV like this, how can we set up
a cron job to scan the image folders and domain / server ?
You create a cron job, to run at whatever schedule you want, that
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it wrong. I dare say they'd be happier if the whole lot was GPLd,
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Vid Luther wrote:
I'm wondering if it's possible to run ClamAV on a file system that has a
ton of WordPress installs.
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Pancho wrote:
While I understand the comment, it makes it risky I believe from a security
perspective to tell users anything more than file contains virus.
I say this because if we find a virus and provide the message file contains
virus with name ClamAV proprietary virus name XYZ then
Pancho wrote:
Hi - thanks to everyone for the replies. I have seen 2 replies now and it
may well be that I have not been clear enough because both are at cross
purposes.
Then it might help if you alaborated on what you meant.
Unfortunately I don't have further time to invest in this topic but I
Does anyone know what the situation is with Debian packages ?
It's been something like 2 months now and 0.98 still doesn't appear to have
made it to unstable, let alone testing.
I'm assuming this also affects Debian derived distros like Mint and Ubuntu.
Greg Folkert wrote:
Simon,
Why not open a Bug, or look to see if there is one. Oh wait:
In Pending Upload bugs for
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727027
Just gotta look. Rending since Oct 2013
Yes indeed.
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Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
So, is there any hope of making it work again using what the repo's for
ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS will put back in (version 97.8) using synaptic? Or has
the data format changed so much its hopeless?
97.8 is the current stable version in Debian (98 has just
Greg Folkert g...@donor.com wrote:
Debian Stable is that. If you must have 0.98.1, you should also be using
backports... at least I used to until I just used Sid for everything.
Backports help extend Stable's longevity and freshness a bit... but it
is no guarantee 0.98.1 will be there.
Because I've several machines using it, I've setup one to act as a local
server, with the others pulling their updates from it. It's been generally
reliable for years, but since updating to 0.98.1 I'm having repeated problems
where the slaves just stop fetching updates.
As an example, one of
Greg Folkert g...@donor.com wrote:
I had this problem and have used a brute force solution to remove the
mirrors.dat file every day so it'll ignore previous problems (like the
machine being unavailable or other such issues)
I had already considered the same. Since I've got two machines that
Shawn Webb sw...@sourcefire.com wrote:
I suspect the fault lies in a rather small piece of code that was supposed
to make the call to recv() a little more robust. If you have the ability
(or desire) to compile from source, can you please try the attached patch?
If the patch works, I'll
Alain Zidouemba azidoue...@sourcefire.com wrote:
The ClamAV engine won't update itself automatically. You will have to
manually perform that operation. The latest version of ClamAV (version
0.98.1) can be downloaded here:
http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/download/sources/
However, as the OP is
Marcello Lupo ml...@itspecialist.it wrote:
Have you any idea of the reason for this problem and how to let it go away?
Other than DKIM breaks stuff
As now I’m loosing some messages from the list for sure.
Stop using mailing lists OR stop using DKIM
Or you might be able to tune DKIM to
Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
... but isn't this a bit off topic?
Yes it is - but the OP asked here as he was having problems with this list.
In this particular case, he's got a local configuration issue nothing really
to
do with clamav, SPF, or DKIM (as a protocol).
Yes
Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote:
No, sending bounces to the list is his problem.
Sorry, but that's a relatively common techie attitude - ignore the fact that
the end user probably has no idea what's going on (else why ask for help about
it ?) From the USER perspective, he has a
Marcio Fiorette marcio.fiore...@gmail.com wrote:
Não estou conseguindo atualizar o ClamAV da versão 0.98.5 para 0.98.6
no Debian 7. Já segui os procedimentos que estão no site
www.clamav.net e mesmo assim não obtive sucesso.
Google tells me you're trying to update but it's not working.
Did
Daniel Spies ds20150222c...@pskx.net wrote:
In my opinion, it doesn't make any sense to scan e-mail leaving the server.
The recipient will never trust these tags anyway. So why scan at all? It's
important to scan incoming mail, be it from a local or an external client.
I disagree.
OK, this is getting well off-topic for this list, this will be my final say on
the matter - and from some of the other comments I see I'm not alone in
considering you part of the problem.
Daniel Spies ds20150222c...@pskx.net wrote:
Recipients may not trust the tags, but it *should* stop
Daniel Spies ds20150222c...@pskx.net wrote:
I don't get how you find it more appropriate to silently reject someone's
e-mail
I don't. I don't know where you got that from - perhaps it's from seeing so
many examples of bad practice that's become the norm so you assume everyone is
that bad ?
Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
Is harmless supposed to include not installable ?
No. What's not installable?
Install clamav-daemon (with the lib) and don't worry about it.
Given that I wouldn't be bothered at all if SystemD was just an init system,
it's all the other crap
G.W. Haywood cla...@jubileegroup.co.uk wrote:
I would
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
Been there, done that, but what a right PITA it creates - specifically trying
to figure what package is triggering a chain of
M.hafez wdeln...@yahoo.com wrote:
can i install the mail server (win or Linux based ) and the clamav in
different machine, that may allow me to filter more than one mailer server
using the same Clamav machine.
In principle yes, though it very much depends on how you are going to pass the
Cmos35 x.lep...@laposte.net wrote:
I never asked to be unsubscribed, I asked a question and I unsubscribed by
David Barr
No, he didn't unsubscribe you - only you can do that (or someone forging your
email address in the sender field)
I assume he wanted to unsubscribe from the list, but
Mark Allan wrote:
>
>> For my, I use Mail.app the majority of the time. Apparently if I delete
>> lines and inline reply like I do in Thunderbird, Mail.app just tells me to
>> eat dust and unthreads the whole thing. Guess I should file a bug with
>> Apple.
>
> That's
Borough Rumford wrote:
> I know clamav is released under GPL license, and third-party commercial app
> shouldn’t link libclamav.
Is the library under the GPL or LGPL - the answer is different for the two
licences ?
Al Varnell wrote:
> So I think I have the answer for this one. From my research it would seem
> that TTL values are set by the DNS server you are accessing, not by the
> ClamAV and is the same for all records on that server. You would have to
> check with the DNS ISP to
I realise English is not your main language and this is probably very difficult
for you to explain in what is to you a foreign language, but I don't think we
are able to figure out just what is not working ...
Tsutomu Oyamada wrote:
> In the present situation fail.
Tsutomu Oyamada wrote:
> ClamAV update process started at Sat Nov 5 05:01:15 2016
> Using IPv6 aware code
> Querying current.cvd.clamav.net
> TTL: 1797
> Software version from DNS: 0.99.2
> main.cvd version from DNS: 57
> main.cvd is up to date (version: 57, sigs:
Tsutomu Oyamada wrote:
> Our environment is a local mirror.
> However, it does not matter.
>
> I wanted to know if there is the case that the DNS TXT of ClamAV have
> not been updated for few days.
> Could it be possibe?
> Is this issue caused by the problem on our
robert k Wild wrote:
> Can I install a clamav server and point all my clamav end users ie Mac
> Linux windows to the server to get update definitions
Yes. Setup your own mirror and point everything at it.
> and can I manage my
> clients from the server ie see if there
Beeblebrox wrote:
>> ... If clamd finds something (it does happen), what's the plan?
>> The message is *already* in the user's mail box, and I'd say it should
>> *not* be there in your scenario, because the user can pick up the bad
>> mail simply by connecting other than
Dave McMurtrie wrote:
> The original poster doesn't mention which IMAP server he's using.
As I read it, he's looking at "random users accessing random servers" - eg a
user connecting his phone to the guest network and it then accessing Gmail.
I really don't think it's
Andy Schmidt wrote:
> If Paypal expects their emails to be delivered, then the CONTENT of their
> emails must not use phishing techniques.
In my experience, most PayPal emails are a catalogue of the things people are
told not to do ! Things like "click here to
Robert Schetterer wrote:
> Div monitors should be fine to code for such things
> like monit, munin, xymon, icinga, nagios , zabbix etc
Nagios has a plugin for it (someone's already done the coding), I used to use
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> Does ClamAV support in enabling the reputation rating? Seems I couldn't find
> any info when searching for it. There's nothing mentioned in the config file
> as well.
AIUI no, it doesn't have anything for that.
However, a very common setup is use
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