On Dec 15, 2012, at 1:14 AM, cameron wrote:
Originally I was using ECJ (http://cs.gmu.edu/~eclab/projects/ecj/) in java
for my GP work but for the last few years it's been GEVA with a clojure
wrapper I wrote (https://github.com/cdorrat/geva-clj).
Ah yes -- I've actually downloaded and
On Dec 14, 2012, at 10:41 PM, cameron wrote:
Until Lee has a representative benchmark for his application it's difficult
to tell if he's
experiencing the same problem but there would seem to be a case for changing
the PersistentList
implementation in clojure.lang.
We put together a
On Dec 13, 2012, at 4:21 PM, cameron wrote:
Have you made any progress on a small deterministic benchmark that reflects
your applications behaviour (ie. the RNG seed work you were discussing)? I'm
keen to help, but I don't have time to look at benchmarks that take hours to
run.
I've
On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
Have you tried running your real application in a single thread in a JVM, and
then run multiple JVMs in parallel, to see if there is any speedup? If so,
that would again help determine whether it is multiple threads in a single
JVM
On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Christophe Grand wrote:
Lee, while you are at benchmarking, would you mind running several threads in
one JVM with one clojure instance per thread? Thus each thread should get
JITted independently.
I'm not actually sure how to do that. We're starting runs with
On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Marshall Bockrath-Vandegrift wrote:
I’m not sure what the next steps are. Open a bug on the JVM? This is
something one can attempt to circumvent on a case-by-case basis, but
IHMO has significant negative implications for Clojure’s concurrency
story.
I've gotten
On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Marshall Bockrath-Vandegrift wrote:
Or have I missed a currently-available work-around among the many
suggestions?
You can specialize your application to avoid megamodal call sites in
tight loops. If you are working with `Cons`-order sequences, just use
On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Marshall Bockrath-Vandegrift wrote:
So I think if you replace your calls to `reverse` and any `conj` loops
you have in your own code, you should see a perfectly reasonable
speedup.
Tantalizing, but on investigation I see that our real application actually does
On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
When you say we can run multiple instances of the test on the same machine,
do you mean that, for example, on an 8 core machine you run 8 different JVMs
in parallel, each doing a single-threaded 'map' in your Clojure code and not
a
On Dec 8, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Marshall Bockrath-Vandegrift wrote:
Although it doesn’t impact your benchmark, `pmap` may be further
adversely affecting the performance of your actual program. There’s a
open bug regarding `pmap` and chunked seqs:
http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-862
On Dec 8, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Paul deGrandis wrote:
My experiences in the past are similar to the numbers that Jim is reporting.
I have recently been centering most of my crunching code around reducers.
Is it possible for you to cook up a small representative test using
reducers+fork/join
On Dec 8, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
I'm hoping you realize that (take 1 (iterate reverse value)) is reversing
a linked list 1 times, each time allocating 1 cons cells (or
Clojure's equivalent of a cons cell)? For a total of around 100,000,000
memory allocations
architectures too, but it doesn't look
promising.
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On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:19 PM, meteorfox wrote:
Now if you run vmstat 1 while running your benchmark you'll notice that the
run queue will be most of the time at 8, meaning that 8 processes are
waiting for CPU, and this is due to memory accesses (in this case, since this
is not true for
on AMD
machines.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
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Thanks Andy.
My applications definitely allocate a lot of memory, which is reflected in all
of that consing in the test I was using. It'd be hard to do what we do in any
other way. I can see how a test using a Java mutable array would help to
diagnose the problem, but if that IS the problem
On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Alan Malloy wrote:
Evaluating function literals is not intended to work; that it works
for non-closure functions should be treated as a coincidence.
Really? Eval Evaluates the form data structure (not text!) and returns the
result. Why would certain things like
On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Ben Smith-Mannschott wrote:
I think you're confusing:
(eval (list '(fn [x] x) 1))
with:
(eval (list (fn [x] x) 1))
In both cases, eval is being passed a list of two items. The first
element of the list differs, however:
In the first case, it is a
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what I originally understood... It just seems
impossible to convince academics that 1st years should become problem-solvers
first and programmers after...Java is too grounded in most schools!
Jim
On 26/09/12 14:29, Jim foo.bar wrote:
On 26/09/12 14:04, Lee Spector wrote:
Having taught
(It has been a while since the OP asked this question, but I didn't see an
answer...)
You should be able to just download a standalone jar version of clooj, launch
it as an application, and get to work editing and running code. No downloading
of anything else or command-line calls to java are
Maybe a long shot, but are any Clojurians going to the Parallel Problem
Solving from Nature conference in Sicily later this week
(http://www.dmi.unict.it/ppsn2012/)?
I'll be giving a tutorial there that will cover genetic programming work
currently being done in Clojure
a (the value) or any other expression like 1,
that succeeds. And then if I try the code from the initial attempt (the exact
code that failed in the previous paragraph) it now also succeeds! Why might
that be?
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
An approach that doesn't involve
An approach that doesn't involve dynamic variables is to build, evaluate, and
then call a function that's made out of the given code and takes an argument
for the variable.
Assuming for the moment that the code is in symbolic form (rather than string
form) like this:
= (def exp 'a)
has been fixed and I've updated the dependencies.
I've run the samples a built a fresh checkout on a clean machine so I think
you should be ok now though I did have to delete ~/.m2 in one case.
Let me know if you have any problems.
Cheers,
Cameron.
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Cameron,
I'm eager to check this out.
There's a missing quote mark in the dependency line in the getting started
guide, but after fixing it I still get:
Downloading:
org/clojars/cdorrat/geva-clj/1.2-SNAPSHOT/geva-clj-1.2-SNAPSHOT.pom from
repository clojars at http://clojars.org/repo/
Considering that maps do have upsides compared to records in some cases (as
indicated, e.g., by Chas's flowchart), and that struct-maps add a couple of
handy features in the context of some uses of maps, can anybody say why
struct-maps are deprecated?
-Lee
On Jul 23, 2012, at 1:07 AM,
On Jul 23, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Aravindh Johendran wrote:
Are struct-maps really deprecated? I don't see a deprecation warning anywhere
(clojure website, source, api, etc.). All I see is the following line in
clojure website.
--- Note: Most uses of StructMaps would now be better served by
On Jul 22, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Warren Lynn wrote:
I plan to change all my major data structures to records instead of plain
maps. Since record has everything a map provides, I figure there won't be any
harm. But is that really so? Would appreciate the opinions from people who
know better.
I
I'd like to see this, as might others in the evolutionary computing community.
I just gave some presentations at GECCO at which I mentioned that my current
work is implemented in Clojure, and a couple of people told me that they were
interested in working in Clojure too.
-Lee
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On Jun 18, 2012, at 3:02 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote:
There's really no need to obscure subjects. For all your filtering
needs, there's the List-ID header:
List-ID: clojure.googlegroups.com
Here's a SIEVE snippet you can install somehow to your IMAP server to
move messages to this list to
On Jun 17, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Peter Buckley wrote:
Having [clojure] in front of the subject obscures the subject with redundant
information. It's wasting valuable space at the front of the subject line
that could be used for, well, the subject, which I'm actually interested in.
The mail
On May 9, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Michael Gardner wrote:
I've never understood why anyone would use prn/read for data transfer, other
than extreme laziness.
But extreme laziness is an excellent reason!
Larry Wall called laziness the first great virtue of a programmer.
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On May 7, 2012, at 12:37 AM, HelmutKian wrote:
Hey there,
I'm a fairly experienced Common Lisp programmer. By that I mean I've read
PAIP, On Lisp, Let Over Lambda, and written several real world CL
applications and taught the principles of FP using Racket as a TA.
Now I'm looking
On May 7, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Larry Travis wrote:
Lee's comments ring true for me so let me extend them.
Before I discovered Clojure, my experience as a programmer had been mainly in
the area of artificial-intelligence experimental programming. I was once a
reasonably proficient Lisp
On May 7, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote:
FWIW I've often thought that it would be really wonderful to have real
Aquamacs support/polish for swank-clojure/SLIME, especially if it could be
packaged in form
On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:34 PM, looselytyped wrote:
http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table---a-new-ide-concept/
Very nice!
Small note: In Interlisp, if I remember it correctly, code was structured into
functions -- not files -- and one got an editor window for each function
On Apr 13, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
Interlisp did the live propagation of values thing that's in this demo... but
still, it's interesting to see the idea of function editors coming back.
OOPS -- I meant Interlisp DIDN'T DO the live propagation of values thing
Interlisp had
On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Marcus Lindner wrote:
Another thing about the posted code here.
When the alogrithm is stopped, the start-stop-agent became the state
stopped. Because this agent has not the state running anymore, there is
no send for any other agent anymore. But these agents are
I don't know if this will help with the issues that are really motivating this
thread, but for what it's worth I've written a couple of genetic programming
systems (genetic algorithms in which the genomes are programs that are run as
part of the fitness tests) in Clojure and I generally use
On Mar 30, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Cedric Greevey wrote:
That opens a giant can of worms. How, for example, do we discover that
(partial * 2) and #(* % 2) and (fn [x] (* 2 x)) and #(+ %1 %1) are all
equal? Nevermind once we get into situations like #(reduce + (map
(constantly 1) %) equals #(loop
To use leiningen in conjunction with clooj:
1. Edit project.clj to reflect your dependencies (using clooj or whatever other
editor).
2. Run lein deps from the command line within the project's directory.
3. Quit/restart clooj, since it builds its classpath on launch.
Works for me at least.
On Mar 16, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Niels van Klaveren wrote:
AFAIK there's not much projects focussing on 3D in Clojure, but you can take
a look at processing (http://processing.org) and one of it's Clojure
wrappers. It's a great little language for 2D/3D visuals, and there's plenty
of
I'm starting a new project involving 3d modeling and I'd like info on
availability of related clojure tools -- and I'd also like to pitch a related
tool-building project for anyone who might be interested in working on such a
thing.
First, I see from github that penumbra is not under active
On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:42 AM, David Brunell wrote:
How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
FWIW I've tried many times over many years and I never lost the frustration; I
prefer free editing but with
On Jan 19, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Mark Nutter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, David Brunell quantal...@gmail.com wrote:
How long did it take you to get comfortable with paredit? I keep getting
frustrated and going back to manually matching parens.
I had the same experience for a
On Jan 18, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Cedric Greevey cgree...@gmail.com wrote:
don't see very many S.O.Ses or complaints from CCW, Clooj, or
LaClojure, or Enclojure users.
Probably because 60-70% of Clojure developers are using Emacs so
On Oct 31, 2011, at 5:40 AM, vikbehal wrote:
I am from java Background. We say Homoiconicity in Clojure (Lisp).
Code is data and data is code. I read various blogs on it, still not
clear, Can you give me some example?
FWIW I think that homoiconicity can be useful in a variety of
On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Avram wrote:
I haven't read the entire thread carefully, but have you considered
the work library https://github.com/getwoven/work as a potential
fit for what you are trying to do?
I hadn't heard of it, but it does look promising and I will check it out.
Thanks!
On Oct 11, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote:
So indeed, one starts with the number of available processors + 2, and
one single longer running task will wipe out any parallelism. :-(
IMO, that's not what 99% of the users would expect nor want when calling
(pmap foo coll). I'd vote for
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:55 AM, j-g-faustus johannes.fries...@gmail.com
wrote:
I expect it would be possible to nest it (possible as in no exceptions or
deadlocks), but I can't see any scenario where you would want to - you
would get an exponentially increasing number of threads. If 48
, at 7:24 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
I've been playing with medusa and it sometimes does what I expect, but
sometimes it's doing something strange and I'm wondering if someone can help
me to do one specific medusa-like thing but more simply (and without the
strangeness, which I haven't fully
definition
with something like #(agent % :error-handler (fn [agnt except] (println
except))).
On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
I think that the following partially answers my own question and that it
provides a way to get decent multicore performance for collections of
non
On Oct 10, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
What you're really looking for is pdoseq, right? Seems like futures
might be a better building-block for this, although again Clojure's
lack of flexibility over the thread pool could easily bite you here.
No -- I want all of the returned
On Oct 10, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Ben Evans wrote:
There should be 1.2.4 (and a snapshot of 1.3.0) up on clojars now.
Could I ask you to give one of them a go, and mail your findings to
the list? We have our regular Incanter Hack Day coming up next
weekend, so if things are still b0rken for you,
be patient with your
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I've been playing with medusa and it sometimes does what I expect, but
sometimes it's doing something strange and I'm wondering if someone can help me
to do one specific medusa-like thing but more simply (and without the
strangeness, which I haven't fully traced but I hope to avoid having to).
I need to do some pretty simple statistics in a Clojure program and Incanter
produces results that I think must be wrong (details below). So I don't think I
can trust it.
Is there other code for statistical testing out there? Or maybe somebody could
explain to me how to interpret the
On Sep 27, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
Johann Hibschman joha...@gmail.com writes:
There may be an easier way to do this, but this worked for me:
user= (org.apache.commons.math.stat.inference.TestUtils/tTest
(into-array Double/TYPE [40 5 2]) (into-array Double/TYPE [1 5
On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:44 PM, David Powell wrote:
I see that there was a recent fix made to Incanter:
Fixed typo in :lower-tail? keyword.
This was causing the complement of the p-value to be returned.
https://github.com/liebke/incanter/pull/39
Have you tried the latest version in
On Sep 27, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Paul Koerbitz wrote:
That said, I read somewhere (can't find the link now, sorry) that
compile-time type checking in Lisps is difficult because they allow code
generation at run time? That would still leave the possibility to apply it to
everything which is
Thanks for this info -- I didn't realize quite how pmap worked.
I often launch parallel threads with pmap and have sometimes been puzzled by
dips in processor utilization that I can't trace to memory resource contention,
etc.
I have similar issues sometimes when I launch parallel threads via
On Sep 8, 2011, at 12:06 AM, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant wrote:
This is interesting, might I ask what in context are you teaching this?
It's primarily for a genetic programming course I'm teaching at Hampshire
College (https://moodle.hampshire.edu/course/view.php?id=1788).
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I developed this for use in my own teaching, but I'm sharing it in case
somebody else might also find it useful.
As it says in the README:
;; The material in this file is informal and idiosyncratic in its coverage,
;; leaving out many things that other Clojure introductions include and
FWIW I've had to re-remember this behavior of contains? several times, and to
warn students off of it because it's so easy to think from the name that it's a
general membership test. And the some idiom takes a while to remember.
The cheat sheet may indeed be contributing to the problem -- I do
On Sep 3, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Colin Yates wrote:
My semi-serious point is that as a beginner the question being answered is
more like what is it all about and how can I try these samples/examples
rather than how do I do 'proper' enterprise development with this. The
best answer for the
On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM, nchurch wrote:
I've edited the page a little bit to make it less prescriptive towards
Clooj.
http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+for+Beginners
I like the revision too.
I'm not even
sure we should put up labrepl, because there are no
FWIW I think nchurch's proposed new page is very nice and I disagree with
almost all of jonathan.watmough's critiques.
I won't rebut them all systematically, but one top-level issue is that I think
that a reasonable getting-started path should include an editor with at least
minimal
On Aug 29, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:
I guess the problem with that is that you need to have an instance of
the record before you can use `keys'. And to create an instance, at
least you have to know the number of keys.
However, you can inspect the record's constructor using
On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Andy Fingerhut wrote:
I suspect that (rand), which calls java.lang.Math.random(), is a synchronized
method, meaning that if you try to call it from many parallel threads, even
those on physically separate cores, will execute one at a time. Things could
even
On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Dave Ray wrote:
user.dir is the directory from which the JVM was launched, i.e. the
initial working directory of the process. So, you're probably
double-clicking the Clooj jar which resides in your Downloads folder
and thus all further file system operations
On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Terje Dahl wrote:
I disagree.
Simply use: (System/getProperty user.home)
This will give you a useful path to work with, no matter where you
start from.
Works on my Mac. Should work on Windows.
From there I would build a simple library which tests which
On Aug 26, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
What kind of problem with Eclipse / CCW ?
CCW uses a standard java launcher, so to say it uses the Eclipse Java
Development Tools defaults, which are to create a launch configuration with
the project's path as the current directory (of
On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Terje Dahl wrote:
Great question. And great answer.
Seriously! I did not know it could be that easy.
Unfortunately it's not actually that easy, at least for the OP's question of
reading from and writing to (presumably local) files.
While slurp and spit are
On Aug 25, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Lee Spector lspec...@hampshire.edu wrote:
While slurp and spit are beautifully elegant it's not so elegant to tell
slurp how to find the file you want it to slurp. In many other
languages/environments there's
On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:07 PM, daly wrote:
On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 16:30 -0700, pmbauer wrote:
+1
On Friday, August 12, 2011 3:16:15 PM UTC-7, Sergey Didenko wrote:
BTW, Is there a case when AI self-modifying program is much
more elegant than AI just-data-modifying program?
On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Mark Engelberg wrote:
I would love to have a more streamlined way in Clojure for my personal
common case -- writing a short script and using it interactively.
+1 on the whole perspective presented here, most of which I cut.
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On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Alex Osborne wrote:
The main use cases for the old structs feature on the other hand are
completely replaced by records and it is recommended that new code use
defrecord instead of defstruct.
I had some code using structs and, following advice like this, replaced
On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Alex Osborne wrote:
6. Click hooke-1.1.2.jar and save the jar file to your project.
The repository is really nothing more than a bunch of directories
each containing a jar files and another file containing a list of
dependencies. I'm not sure how you could
On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Sorry to make things look different than the apparent consensus of the
participants to this thread, but isn't it a little bit too prematurate to
put that pressure on
On Jul 25, 2011, at 4:11 AM, Michael Wood wrote:
On 25 July 2011 09:41, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, pmbauer paul.michael.ba...@gmail.com
wrote:
[...]
That's why I would give Clooj some prominence rather than burying it at the
bottom of the
On Jul 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, bernardH wrote:
But there is a small catch : most of the time is spent in the Random
Number Generator [3] so it would be sub-optimal to just have worker
threads processing the output of a single threaded rng.
I am not very confident in my solution to a similar
On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
Or, the traditional thing: full control, but tab or something will
reindent the current line, or all lines intersecting the selection if
any, to structurally-correct positions based on all of the code above,
if tab is hit outside a string
On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:54 AM, Clojure Neophyte wrote:
Again, for Clojure to have wider adoption it should have a beginners' IDE. It
shouldn't be distributed just as jar files.
FWIW I just double-clicked on the clooj jar and it launched like any other
application -- I didn't have to know
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On Jul 18, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Arthur Edelstein wrote:
The REPL input is the lower right pane. I think I should add some
labels on each pane.
Ah yes -- now I see it and that works fine. Thanks also to Adam Burry for
pointing this out. As Tamreen Khan noted it's a little confusing that
On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
If your programming experience lies elsewhere, or you're new to
programming altogether, _insert something here_.
The last one is maybe the trickiest. Best might be a good text editor
for programming that isn't Emacs, combined with leiningen.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:39 AM, Ken Wesson wrote:
(with the downside of the emacs interface learning curve, to whatever extent
that can't be addressed via configuration)
That's not a downside, that's a pit full of sharks with lasers on
their heads, at least from your hypothetical newb's
On Jul 8, 2011, at 10:29 AM, James Keats wrote:
May I also add the following caveat emptors:
- If you're new to programming, clojure will overwhelm you. Start with
something like python.
I disagree. This is a subject of religious debates that I don't want to get
into in detail, but FWIW this
On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
Have you tried the Vagrant approach? It's a one-button
Emacs/Clojure/Leiningen hacking VM setup[1]:
I haven't, although I've been watching the list traffic on this. Now I see that
I must. I will!
Thanks,
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On Jul 8, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Vivek Khurana wrote:
That is still not as easy as python. Running VM is a bigger overhead...
There are different kinds of overhead. If the installation and setup of the VM
is simple and bullet proof then this is acceptable overhead for me.
On the other hand I
On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Fischer Friberg wrote:
It looks like you haven't got enough privileges, try sudo gem install
vagrant
Thanks. That solved some of the problems (and I would suggest that sudo be
added to the vagrant readme instructions) but I still get:
ERROR: Error
On Jul 8, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Michael Klishin wrote:
what does gem --version output?
It was 1.3.5.
To upgrade rubygems, use
[sudo] gem update --system
Thanks so much. I've now successfully upgraded rubygems and completed the sudo
gem install vagrant step without error.
I will take
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
Now replace clojure.org/getting_started with something like that and I
think most of the complaints would go away. No one needs a fancy
editor / IDE setup to use Clojure - the key is just getting it
installed and then a REPL to experiment and a
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
Maybe a troubleshooting section at the bottom of the readme? Sounds
good to me; feel free to issue a pull request.
I don't have the expertise to write such a thing.
In other news, I've now done vagrant up in the directory containing the
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:30 PM, James Keats wrote:
Sam Aaron's emacs setup with cake's swank is really really nice. It
could possibly be combined with a cheatsheet for emacs' most needed
keyboard shortcuts.
inc!
May I also add that I found remapping some keyboard keys quite useful
I'd
On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
If you download and install Eclipse or NetBeans they will install a
JDK by default, and if you then use their internal plugin browsers to
find and install CCW resp. Enclojure, they will install Clojure 1.2.0
(last time I checked) for you and set
On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Ken Wesson wrote:
My concern there is with newbies just getting their feet wet in
Clojure needing to hack a Clojure file in order to start learning how
to hack Clojure files. :)
Yeah, but it's a minimal copy this line and your library name goes here kind
of edit
On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
And yet the #1 FAQ we see on lists and reflected in blog posts is
about getting Clojure up and running... We see Java developers,
committed to their favorite IDE, still asking Should I install /
learn Emacs? We see old-time Lispers, happy with
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