Thanks David,
For checking that source. We need more peer review.
One problem with the internet is the old info is kept forever.
This also applies to opinions based on old data. Another problem happens when
different websites link to a bad opinion and the opinion from a single
individual gets
I did not read the entire pdf, but I think it is out of date. That document is
from 1999, and subsequently, the government redefined the quality of diesel
fuel. So from reading the sites below, it looks to me like the marine (small
engine) fuel and road fuel are the same (at least have the sam
I know this topic was discussed to great lengths, but to anyone who is
interested, here is the article I read that led to my question of marine
diesel fuel versus regular diesel fuel. Not being a chemist or material
scientist, and to any of those in these professions that might read
this, to m
Better to sent the old track. Built right to spec.
On Dec 10, 2014 3:29 PM, "Steve Mallett via CnC-List"
wrote:
> I am planning to install Garhauer block system for line adjustable genoa
> trim track. I have 1985 C&C 32 with original track, but it is a little hard
> to get to at this time of yea
I am planning to install Garhauer block system for line adjustable genoa
trim track. I have 1985 C&C 32 with original track, but it is a little hard
to get to at this time of year to measure. Does anyone have the specs for
this track so I can order the new Garhauer cars for this existing track?
i.e
Thanks, Dennis, I hadn't appreciated the question of breaking the seal, but I
can only see maybe 10% of the bolts (in the vee berth) and I wouldn't fit in
the area under the cockpit; all other bolts i.e maybe 50% of them are not
visible. Any comment on wetness/dryness when applying the Tolley?
Patrick,
The Captains Tolley's will definitely work in the horizontal joint between
toe rail and deck. That's exactly where I apply it on Touche'. Because it
is a thin, low viscosity liquid, it will penetrate through capillary action
into that joint. The liquid carrier will then evaporate leavi
Several people have given me useful feed-back in dealing with my leaks, this is
a bit of an up-date that might be helpful to someone else, and a question or
two.
I used a hand-screwdriver and tightened all the toe-rail bolts, hand-tight. At
a guess something like 80% tightened up in a quarter
You boys following the Volvo Ocean Race coverage on Youtube? The boats are impressive 25 + knots boat speed capable monohulls. Very professional coverage and the playlists make it easy /convenient. There are many cameras on the boats, helicopter shots, live interviews @ sea.., charming host, the
Now that we know you the answer is "NO!". :)
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
Wally Bryant via CnC-List wrote:
You have to know your boat. *When I first considered buying Stella Blue I
> asked this list (on Sailnet at the time) whether it could cross an ocean. *
> No one knew me then
Wal,
True, but if they used a Bene for All is Lost, it would have been a short,
not a feature length film!
Joel
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> You have to know your boat. When I first considered buying Stella Blue I
> asked this li
You have to know your boat. When I first considered buying Stella Blue
I asked this list (on Sailnet at the time) whether it could cross an
ocean. No one knew me then, and the reply I remember was "It's the
sailor, not the boat."
Wal
Danny wrote:
I chatted with a guy who owns a Bene 393.
Joe wrote:
When you have had the same boat since 1977, the PO idiot ends up being YOU.
Tell me about it! The other thing is cruising repairs when proper
materials aren't available, or when it's 105F and one isn't thinking
very well and one has to get the job done right now. There are quite
I sail (race) a lot on a C&C 115 for the past five years. They are not awful
in light air and do sail well in all conditions. However at 15-18 knots they
win races. These boats are upwind monsters in 18 knots with weight on the rail.
Mike
Crew on Koobalibra
C&C 115 59115
-Original Messag
I chatted with a guy who owns a Bene 393. He has circumnavigated twice with
it. for whatever can be taken from that... Danny
-- Original Message --
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
To: davidrisch75 , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Re: Stus-List Quality Construction
Date: W
David,
I agree, but the lows are low and the highs are not that high. At least on
the First series boats the hardware is beefed up over the comparably sized
cruisers. Of course, they are still in business while Sabre is now a
powerboat company. Price matters!
There is an active thread on Sailn
Friends boats;
1) BendyToe 423...multiple successful trips to Bermuda.
2) Bendy Toe 373. Broke a boom going round the bouys.
I think construction quality is model dependent
David F. Risch.
Please excuse brevity and possible typos...sent from my mobile device.
Original message -
On the 121, etc - The fiberglass build quality, sans some initial problems on
the epoxy hulls, is first rate. Hardware is first rate. Design is excellent.
Woodwork does not compare to the original C&C. They sail like a bat out of
hell. Not sure where the comment about 15 knots and above com
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> yea, this is exactly what I am up against. we sold Lolita and the admiral
> would like a jeanneau. I can't bring myself to accommodate her. The more
> I learned about the Jeanneau the more I realized I
My personal displeasure with Beneteaus begins with my personal beam.
Chartered a 32 and had tight squeezes into the aft cabin and head. Same
into the forward head on a chartered 43. No problem with my current C&C 34.
But as much as we love the C&C brand, they are/were subject to cost
generated con
Ok, so I'm biased but at the risk of stating the obvious.. How about a 34
+, 34/36, 37+, 37/40 ?
French boats like large aft Stateroom / Lounge on the U settee in the
salon - Large port lights / C&C Quality
As another bonus they smoke the compartively sized French boats on the
racecourse
Marek, There are "dock queens" everywhere, power and sail, all sorts of
quality. Steve, the forces on your 27 are probably 1/10th of the forces on
a 49. My 35/3 has backing plates on anything that is subject to a high
load.
I'm fortunate that if I ever want to upgrade the Admiral will consider ho
You should see what other people say about the new boats! Generally, the
consensus is that nothing is built to the level of quality that you would
expect in a boat for $150-$250 k (or higher).
But this might make you feel better that you own a tried and true old boat.
If nothing lese, all the
Danny:
One more Bene story and then I will quit.
A few years back, a club member had his 2 year old Bene 32 or 33 (not
sure now the exact model) out for an afternoon sail. He said he had his
main and a roller furler 135% working in about 10 knts true. As is
often the case here, the breeze
Danny,
At least the Jenneau sails better than a Bene. Maybe try a Catalina 38 or
40, Bavaria,or Dehler. (Some of the Cat 36s were not put together well. I
can't give you years, but bulkheads were not fully tabbed, cabinets were
screwed, not bolted)
IMHO, all are a set up in quality.
Joel
On
So Jake, your Suburban will smell like turkey with all the trimmings? Nice
bonus! :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
wrote:
> After Thanksgiving I have four gallons o
Using additives did improve my engine performance.
When I bought the boat the engine was reluctant to start / smoked on the
initial start of the weekend then always fired immediately for the reminder
of the cruise. I was told that it was likely related to sticking injectors
and adding fresh fuel
yea, this is exactly what I am up against. we sold Lolita and the admiral
would like a jeanneau. I can't bring myself to accommodate her. The more I
learned about the Jeanneau the more I realized I don't think I would not be
happy with the construction/build quality. We looked at a privately
Rob,
That's ridiculous! Are his thru-hulls gate valves without backing plates?
I would not buy a new boat without a survey, and if I want a waterfront
condo I'll buy one on land.
Joel
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> At the club last
At the club last week and noticed a fellow member tolling away on the
work bench behind our spar shed...there is a big vice on it that
makes it convenient to do some jobs.
I walked over to say hello and discovered he was cutting out 'backing
plates'.asked him where he was installing th
When I got my first boat in 1966 I noticed that all the boat bottoms were
painted green or blue. So I painted my boat bottom green using green house
paint. As the season wore on I noticed the boat getting slower and slower.
When I pulled it out at the end of the season the bottom looked lik
Same applies to me but since 1975.
Jack Fitzgerald
C&C 39 TM
HONEY - US12788
Savannah, GA
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> When you have had the same boat since 1977, the PO idiot ends up being
> YOU.
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
When you have had the same boat since 1977, the PO idiot ends up being YOU.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:35 AM
To: Jim Watts; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-
I believe we were likely all former owner idiots at one time.
My first boat was a 23 footer and I installed cabin lamps on bulkhead in vee
berth. I used old appliance electric lamp cord (off an old household lamp)
because I had no idea what should be used. I am certain the buyer of that boat
We had the same problem with our J27 a few years ago. Since was on a trailer
we would take mast down every year and then would store in my backyard on saw
horses. Learned the hard way that water can find its way into the spreaders
and freeze over winter. This resulted in cracks on the tapered
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