Stus-List Fuel lift pump

2020-07-21 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Tom, it’s your boat and wallet but an inexpensive vacuum gauge will tell the tale. I would hate to buy an expensive Yanmar pump and find out it’s something more simple unless you want a spare pump anyway. They are available on amazon or eBay and maybe 20$

Stus-List Launching a 34 by forklift

2020-07-21 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Stephan; Here is my response to your question from 3 weeks ago: The (relatively few) marina trucks we built while I was incharge of applications engineering at Hyster Company usually had forks about 12 to 16 feet long and were rated at a load center 48” out from the face of the forks.

Stus-List EV100 Wheel Pilot clutch

2020-07-21 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
I just bought a new ev100 wheel pilot and after about 6 hours of use it started to squeal. Problem was the same, squeak was in the clutch roller on the eccentric attached to the clutch handle. The eccentric on the other side of the motor is the tension adjuster, and it is a mirror image of the

Re: Stus-List Fuel Lift Pump

2020-07-21 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
I had a similar problem with the lift pump on my Beta 28. The tank location compared to the lift capability of the Beta was marginal, even tho the lift pump was working ‘fine’. My diesel mechanic recommended bypassing the mechanical lift pump and using an electric pump. Installed it with a

Re: Stus-List Fuel Lift Pump

2020-07-21 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
Tom, The lift pump arm usually rides on a lobe on the camshaft, which above the crankshaft, which is well above the oil level. A mechanical lift pump is fairly easy to change. If you want feel free to call me and I can walk you through the process. Doug Mountjoysv Rebecca Leah C Landfall 39Port

Re: Stus-List Fuel Lift Pump

2020-07-21 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
I changed mine out. I don’t recall losing any oil. Rick Paikea. 37+. Bremerton, WA Sent from my iPad > On Jul 21, 2020, at 16:04, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List > wrote: > > So, if I understand recent responses to my recent post on running out of > fuel at less than an empty tank, the theory

Stus-List Fuel Lift Pump

2020-07-21 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
So, if I understand recent responses to my recent post on running out of fuel at less than an empty tank, the theory is that with a weak fuel lift pump at a certain fuel level in the tank, the pump would stop lifting fuel, thereby causing the engine to run out of fuel. So, guess I’ll take a

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
i've seen a few in photos both 35 and 40'. But, not too many. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 4:50 PM Graham Collins via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Some 35s have anchor windlasses! I'm running 65 ft of chain and a 30 lb > Rocna, I'm not interested in hauling that up by hand... One of

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions- now Autopilot

2020-07-21 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
My concern is that most of the forklift operators/yards only work with power boats with the majority of the weight (engine) near the forklift itself. Unless he can show you hard evidence of moving around displacement sailboats when that is not the case…I would be skeptical. David F. Risch

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions- now Autopilot

2020-07-21 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Stephen, This is the first time seeing your request. Fork Lifts are fine for flat bottom boats. I'd be skeptical about letting them pick up a round hull sailboat. I'd be afraid of point loading somewhere on the hull. The forktruck has to remain clear of your transom so the tips of the

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Bailey White via CnC-List
I love reading all the experiences of buying boats and upkeep. I'm envious of the rumble and power I can imagine from sailing the 37+'s, 40s, and the like out in great lakes or big seas. I've done a lot of offshore sailing and there is nothing like it. I'm also thankful for my current setup.

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
Some 35s have anchor windlasses!  I'm running 65 ft of chain and a 30 lb Rocna, I'm not interested in hauling that up by hand... One of the best boat modifications I've done. best, Graham Collins Secret Plans C 35-III #11 On 2020-07-21 3:37 p.m., Donald Kern via CnC-List wrote: Jeff No

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Hi Bill, That would be fun, but we are both working full time at this point and can't take that much time off. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don’t rule out cruising the Canals. > > Did that a couple years ago, it was a blast. > > > >

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Don’t rule out cruising the Canals. Did that a couple years ago, it was a blast. Bill Coleman Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 2:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeffrey Brideau

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions- now Autopilot

2020-07-21 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
I believe a few listers responded. I was not one of them as my yard does not have the type of forklift you described. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Stephen Thorne via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 2:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stephen Thorne Subject: Re: Stus-List New-guy C

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions- now Autopilot

2020-07-21 Thread Stephen Thorne via CnC-List
Folks, I asked a question a few weeks ago and not sure if I got an answer back from the group. So here goes again (and if I missed your reply ... appologies) Has anyone had experience with a yard lifting a C with one of those large marine folk lifts? A marina in Florida has a fork lift with 20'

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
Jeff, you noted that "Erie is a bit too far for a practical transport to Maine/NH".  Au contraire my friend! I purchased my 37 from Newburyport Conn. and had it trucked to Louisville, KY; well worth the money!  I was even able to follow the trip progress and met the boat as it came down the

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
A nice 34/36 ( Windsong) from MI just showed up here in oriental its a nice ride for sure! I have also been on tht model and would stongly conside the 35MK and the 34 even the 32 for a sport cruiser? after being around this site for a while He Paid/stole it for $25k and shipped to NC have

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Jeff No capstan on the 35'.  We carry two anchors on Fireball, both Danforths; a small <20 lb and a heavy >35 lb.  Both we store vertically in the cockpit side locker.  The small one we uses for anchoring at lunch time where we are with the boat or racing when the wind dies and we sneak it

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Much more fun, for sure, but not that much less in cost (if it is far enough). I always say that a sailboat travels at a speed of a good walker (maybe a slow runner). If you have any distance to cover, it takes a lot of time. Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List Sent:

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions- now Autopilot

2020-07-21 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I am with Joe that I consider my boat broken if the autopilot is not working. With that in mind, I wanted to pass on a tidbit I learned about my wheelpilot (EV-100 Raymarine). It worked flawlessly for 4 years and then last year started having the clutch handle release frequently. I rebuilt

Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-21 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
Yes hull #1 was called Rabbit and was basically a stripped out boat that they added a long retractable sprit to and a 54” wheel. The boat was sold and now has an interior. Rod Stright President C 99 Class Association Halifax Nova Scotia From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Hoyt,

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Hi Matt, Yup, the 40 is 60% larger than the 35-3. It is not lost on us. We literally go back-and-forth on the size daily and the trade-offs associated. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:04 PM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Understandable. That said, bigger boats have been

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
Understandable. That said, bigger boats have been transported by truck (including mine). Another friend of mine just shipped his Hinckley 42 to Annapolis by truck. Also, I noted after I sent my earlier note that one of your concerns is being out in rougher weather. Again FWIW, the main

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
One of the boats we are looking at is in Lake Champlain and would need trucking. If we find a boat we can sail home it saves a lot of cash and would certainly be a lot more fun, or "exciting"... On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:52 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don’t

Stus-List Bay Area sailing items

2020-07-21 Thread Mazen Aziz via CnC-List
Hi all, In the Bay Area and selling few items of anyone is interested. Here is the ad, https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bpo/d/south-san-francisco-sails-spinnaker/7160697684.html Thanks, MAZEN AZIZ https://mazenaziz.wixsite.com/mazenaziz “To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
FYI – Our boat progression Lightning – only survived half a hurricane, the eye passage was too much ☹ Varnished mahogany powerboat – was just an old boat back then, not yet cool. Cal 20 – cramped for cruising with 4, but sailed quite well. Sea Star 25 (heavy Alberg type, it survived a horrendous

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Don’t right off transporting a boat overland. From Lake Ontario or Lake Erie, the cost should not exceed $5-6k and can be much less if you are lucky enough to catch an empty run. For a freshwater boat, it might be worth it. I bought my current boat (smaller, mind you) over 2000 km from home and

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Hi Joe, Indeed, I priced out the hydraulic systems and they are pushing 3-4k in parts. $1500 for the ram alone. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:42 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > A wheel pilot is about $1500 and a DIY job. A hydraulic inboard autopilot > is much

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Neil, "Look for the boat that has the best "bones" that you can use while doing all of the "improvement" and maintenance required." Agreed, this has been the base of our strategy. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:24 PM schiller via CnC-List wrote: > Jeff, > > I'll chime in on the step up. Our

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Matt, Erie is a bit too far for a practical transport to Maine/NH. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:18 PM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Jeff: > > > > Following up on what John said, the same vintage 36 is a > fine boat, is a little bigger than the

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Peter, We've long had eyes on boats like yours with a full cabin at rear but none are showing up lately in our search criteria. We too are also likely to do most of our work ourselves. I'll keep you in mind. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
A wheel pilot is about $1500 and a DIY job. A hydraulic inboard autopilot is much more. The 40 is too much boat for the wheel pilot in some conditions, mainly off the wind with some seas running. J From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Joe, My wife and I have noticed this as well. Most, but not all, examples have no windlass and we do like to anchor in bays for lunch now and then and we've explored options to add a windlass even if it's just manual. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:50 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks John, Our initial target has been a 35' boat as going larger puts us in a larger slip category as well (more $). A 35 is not off the list, just exploring all options. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:36 PM John McCrea via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > We went from a Pearson 30 to

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Great point Joe, That is a big item on the pro/con list for the two boats I linked for the list. The deep keel has it (if it works), and the CB model does not. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:12 PM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > What he said – you will either buy a

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Len, We've been in discussion with a surveyor from the start. He's coached me to carry a moisture meter with me on our visits and to call him when we have narrowed it down. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:57 AM Len Mitchell via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Welcome Jeff, > Looks

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Don, We were fogged over the last time we went out on the O'Day a few weeks ago. It rolled over the islands just after we cleared the shipping channel in Portland and didn't lift for a few hours. We sailed slowly by GPS and with a keen lookout and nav lights on until it lifted. On Tue,

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Rob, I suspect the 34/36 is going to out of our price range as they don't show up in our search criteria. Is yours the later model 34/36 or the 70's era 34? On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:39 AM Rob Ball via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The ‘basic’ waterline of the 40 and the

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Jeff, I'll chime in on the step up.  Our first keel boat was a Southcoast 23 (Carl Alberg design) that we decided was too small for us on Lake Michigan.  We went shopping for a 30 foot range (Catalina 30 was our target at the time) until I saw a Redwing 35 (C 35 Mark I) listed at the same

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Charles, I'll check out the video. We are looking at displacement in regards to allowing us greater comfort for coastal cruising where we would get outside of Casco Bay for runs up to mid-coast Maine and back. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:56 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
I think Hull #1 had been modified to do that at some point. The regular C 99 comes with symmetric 200% spinnaker and J+1 pole. A number have since been modified to add a small fixed sprit which has total sprit length no longer than Spinnaker pole length. The four racing here (Halifax) do not

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Matt Wolford via CnC-List
Jeff: Following up on what John said, the same vintage 36 is a fine boat, is a little bigger than the 34 (very similar), is likely adequately sized for your family at this time, and will not be quite so eye-opening on many of the issues described so far for making the jump

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Joe, LOVE IT! I'm in the same boat (pun?). My grandfather plunked my brother and me in a wooden pram with a square sail at the age of 6-7 and shoved us off in the lake. We've been sailing ever since. He was a shipwright by trade. We still have his Triangle Class at the same lake. My wife is new

Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-21 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Chuck- I looked at a C 99 when I was buying my boat and it had an integral extending pole for an A sail. I presumed that was standard on the 99, but the one in your video doesn’t have one. Did some have them or was the one I looked at modified? Dave Dr. David Knecht Professor, Department

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Mike, The costs you mention are not a surprise. We are factoring these issues in our decision. We actually have a fleet of old boats in the family that all need various amounts of "love" every year. Presently, a Herreshoff catboat, a Hobie 16, a Triangle Class sloop my grandfather built, a

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Nathan, Something with bigger displacement to let us take longer trips (less protected waters) in more comfort for long weekends or week-long vacations is indeed part of our rationale for the larger boat. We've tried taking our 23-2 outside the islands and although she is solid we get

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Richard, Nothing in the money talk has been unexpected to me... yet. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 9:55 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This is in response to (actually in support of) Joe's "numbers" post; I > have a 37 and experience the same type of costs; I'm

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Jeff I was exactly in your spot 4-5 years ago when my family 4 kids moved from an oday 25 and a j24 to a C 40 Hull 190 I currently keep my 40 aft cabin version off the eastern prom and have done all the work on it myself through the help and advice from those on this list Best up grade

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks Joe, You have a smoking hot deal on a slip. South Portland is closer to $5k for a 40' boat. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The reason we are collectively giving a bit of warning is you are about to > jump into a whole new

Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
True. However that 99 is now going to have to alter more DDW and will slow down quite a bit as a result …. From: CnC-List On Behalf Of CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List Sent: July 21, 2020 1:49 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER Subject: Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
HI Ron, We are from the Portsmouth, NH area but sail in Portland, ME. We intend to keep the boat in Portland, ME. On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:13 AM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Jeff, did I miss where you are located?? > And is that where you will be keeping and

Stus-List Fuel polisher/fuel vacuum gauge

2020-07-21 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Thanks Josh you are right the gauge measure inches of mercury not atmospheres.( .489 vs 14.7 lbs) I did an experiment this morning and our Universal M35 uses an electric fuel pump made by Facet that runs at 6-8 psi. The gauge running shows 1 inch of mercury or just around .5 lbs and it will

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Another thing you may not have thought of coming from a 23 foot boat: Ground tackle. It is bigger, heavier, more expensive – by FAR – and IMHO the 40 is on the ragged edge of what one can deal with without a windlass, which is also not a cheap thing. J

Re: Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-21 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Don, I wasn't there, but a crewman aboard the 99 told me the owner has a long rivalry with the J-109 which was flying an assymetric on a sprit, also. He told me the 99 is for sale because the owner bought a J-109 cause it's faster upwind and points higher. I find the video quite exciting

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Yup, Installed my first autopilot last year, does make cruising easier. Have two wheels; a C standard small one with the autopilot attached and a large wheel for racing.  The large one allows the helmsman to easily sit at either rail to see the luff of the genoa, but makes going aft by the

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Agree, I could live with hank on sails, but an autopilot is essential. That was the very first upgrade on my boat. I added a furler the following year, as I pulled the mast to paint it. The autohelm steers so I can hoist and lower sails and ready my fenders and docklines before entering a

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List
We went from a Pearson 30 to a newer 89 Ericson 32 to a 89 C 40XL. The 40 was just too much boat. 40 is a great size but everything is so much more expensive. Little things that add up like bottom paint. We took 9 years from big boats, bought a j24 to race with the kids and then 3 years ago

Stus-List Sailing with a spin thru the lee of a bigger boat

2020-07-21 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Chuck, Good demonstration of what happens when you decide to sail a smaller boat thru the lee of a bigger boat.  Especially dead downwind with a A-chute and the bigger  has a symmetric chute.   Unless the A-chute was in restricted water or closing the mark they should have been maxing their

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
What he said – you will either buy a boat with a furling jib and an autopilot or spend the $$$ to add them first thing. My boat is broke if the autopilot is broke ;) Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I www.dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
I have had a 40 for 16 years. Costs aside… She is very seaworthy (BMD and back 3 times in “stuff”). Easily handled. Easily de-powered. Incredibly maneuverable (forwards of backwards). Amazing in light air. Sails rings around other boats with just a headsail (barely use the main on

Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Welcome Jeff, Looks like you are getting lots of replies. Folks have been sailing with a family of 4 in all sizes of boats. We went 25-36-40 and bigger is more comfortable for sure. My advice would be buy a C! Best condition, newest and most comfortable you can afford. You can figure out the

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
The C 51 was designed as a centerboarder from the start, and the board is full of lead. We did a hydraulic lift for that . . . . . a tackle arrangement so the cylinder moves about one quarter the distance needed to pull up the board. Rob Ball C 34

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
The ‘basic’ waterline of the 40 and the 34/36 are almost identical, so the hull speeds match . . . . Which is why the newer boat sails in the same speed range . . . . Cheers, Rob Ball C 34 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Donald Kern via CnC-List
Jeff, A 40' is a big boat.  I own a 35' and have sailed and cruised 40' and 38' C  Unless the boat is set up for two you will be spending some money so it will be manageable by two.  Because I sail on Narragansett Bay the wind (except mid Jul to mid Aug) comes in every afternoon at 12 to 15

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
You could make a long stroke ram moving a 4 part block and tackle “backwards”, i.e. 1 foot of ram = 4 feet of line, but then it would be pumping vs. cranking unless you got a trim pump from an I/O to do it with a button. J From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
I am hardly an expert on 'purchase' regarding hydraulics but the issue with a board might be that it has to be physically moved up 3-4 feet--i.e. its more than just the tension applied. Charlie Nelson36 XL/kcb Water Phantom -Original Message- From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List To: C Cc:

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
I focus on the sailing ability in selecting a boat. If you sail in a steady high winds, go big. But if you are more like the rest of us and have low wind predominantly, I would steer toward the smallest, lightest model C that still has just enough interior to accommodate my family. Smaller,

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
This below was the source of some marital discussions. If you include family boats I have never in my entire life NOT had a boat, so large amounts of time and later money devoted to boat upkeep was something I never DIDN’T do. I used to get signed out of school as a kid for “family events” like

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Jeff I believe having run motorhomes and the like you already know about costs but I would like to add one thing. My father having had 35+ foot motorhomes and 36 foot sailboats (C of course) that he bought new in the day always said that he put aside 10% of the purchase price of the

Stus-List Jabsco 43990-0061 rebuild kit

2020-07-21 Thread David Risch via CnC-List
New old stock. If want let me know for a Stu donation. Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
Welcome Jeff, Something to keep in mind is that a 40 is almost twice as much boat compared to a 34 or 35 (18000+ lbs rather than 1 or so. Everything is bigger, heavier and more expensive. And it can also get more complicated to sail - does it have running backstays? I think that a 38 such

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
This is in response to (actually in support of) Joe's "numbers" post; I have a 37 and experience the same type of costs; I'm on a river and I built my own boat dock for about 15Gs...; just to know my boat was safe and secure; my purpose in joining in is to say, don't let these numbers put you

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump check valve

2020-07-21 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Install a Bosworth Sea-Lect check valve or very similar. When you install it orient it so the hinge on the valve is at the top. I've had one in Touche' for about 20 years with no issues. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:14 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
The reason we are collectively giving a bit of warning is you are about to jump into a whole new world of both much bigger $$$ and much bigger forces. Not to say it isn’t worth it, but it helps to know what you are getting into. To start with, the loads on a 40 foot boat are exponentially bigger

Stus-List Bilge pump check valve

2020-07-21 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I had a periodic problem with water coming in the bilge pump under certain conditions. It seems that when the bilge pump outlet was under water, usually when motoring, water could flow under pressure through the bilge pump. This seemed not to be a siphon, but a water pressure situation since

Re: Stus-List Parting an ‘89 30’ CNC

2020-07-21 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List
Boat looked good to me. Just dirty from sitting in the yard. No cradle/stands. Some repairs had been made/attempted to fore and aft edge of keel. Maybe that was the reason for abandonment. Boat is at King Marine Salvage In Verplanck NY on the Hudson River. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21,

Re: Stus-List TV antenna options

2020-07-21 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I mounted my TV antenna on the mast, on the top starboard side. It works great and I think the height is a big advantage. I was able to use it the entire length of the ICW. Bob Bob Boyer s/v Rainy Days C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230) (Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
FWIW, my wife often says she liked our 34 better than the 42 Custom. She is intimidated by the size and power of the bigger boat, especially when the wind builds. She thinks it was easier for the two of us to take out the smaller boat (true). Personally, I like the bigger boat now that I’m

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread rjcasciato--- via CnC-List
Jeff, did I miss where you are located??And is that where you will be keeping and sailing the boat??Ronrjcasci...@comcast.net Sent from Xfinity Connect Application-Original Message-From: cnc-list@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: bride...@gmail.comSent: 2020-07-21 6:31:05 AM

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread George Cone via CnC-List
Standard 40 is 7' 6" the DJ is 10" deeper Get Outlook for Android From: CnC-List on behalf of Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:35:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeffrey Brideau Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Hi George, Is it a misprint that the max draft is 7'6" ? The number your quoting sounds like the max draft for CB down on the CB model according the brochure. I'm familiar with wet decks, our O'Day has plenty. Thanks, Jeff On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:43 PM George Cone via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
That's an interesting idea. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:17 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I'm not familiar with how the pennant is attached, but I'm wondering > whether you could fit a hydraulic cylinder in place of a winch. My backstay > and vang are hydraulic, and

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Hi Ron, Thanks for the words of caution. We are definitely balancing the size situation and appreciate a 40 will be over 5X larger than our 23 and would love the opportunity to sail on one prior to purchasing if that were an option. I'm selling a 40' diesel motorhome that costs us an arm and a

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks for your thoughts On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:09 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > If draft is an issue (or might be a future issue depending on your plans > for cruising, etc.) I would consider the cb model. > > I have a 36 XL/kcb (your 40 ft C is actually a

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
The interior is odd by today's standards for sure. But for us, the pilot berths would be great for two young boys and it seems it could easily sleep 4 adults and 4 kids if we had visitors. What kinds of speeds did you see regularly on your charter experience? I don't see anywhere in my googling

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Hi Joel, Probably not. Too far away and I suspect the border to be closed for some time. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 7:36 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Welcome to the club > R you open to boat in Canada or Ontario > And what price range are you looking for? > >

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks for the notes. I hadn't thought of modifying the keel but that would probably put us well out of our budget. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:31 PM John Conklin via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Yes welcome love these boats > Is there really 2 cabins? or quarter berth The lines on

Re: Stus-List New-guy C 40 Shopping questions

2020-07-21 Thread Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
Thanks On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:04 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Welcome to the list! > > It looks like the drain is a Garboard drain which allows the bilge to > drain in the off season. > > Yes the wire rope is most likely the center board pendent. > > The