Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-18 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
The only reason for water dripping is to lubricate (and cool) the seal/shaft interface. However, the PTFE packing has low enough friction that you don't need to lubricate. Hence, no need for dripping water. Btw. the main difference between the normal shaft seal (regardless of packing) and the

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal - now hoses > Diesel Fill Hose

2018-02-18 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
y apart. > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis > C. via CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:42 PM > *To:* CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Dennis C. <capt..

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal - now hoses > Diesel Fill Hose

2018-02-18 Thread Nauset Beach via CnC-List
:42 PM To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal - now hoses Hear! Hear! High on my list! In the 1st 4 months I had Touche' I replaced all the thru hull hoses, the alcohol stove hose, and all the engine hoses.

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
; Which isn’t a bad idea anyway. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C 39 Erie, PA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:45 PM > *To:* C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread coltrek via CnC-List
: Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:45 PM To: C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal   As for old hoses that's why it is so important to close your through hulls when away from the boat.   Josh    On Feb 17, 2018 4:32 PM, "Len Mitchell via CnC-Li

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Josh Muckley muckleyj@gmail.combroke <mailto:muckleyj@gmail.combroke> Subject: Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal I forgot but someone else has mentioned in the past that the vent isn't even really necessary. Just burp the seal after each relaunch. You c

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
List *Cc:* Josh Muckley *Subject:* Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal As for old hoses that's why it is so important to close your through hulls when away from the boat. Josh On Feb 17, 2018 4:32 PM, "Len Mitchell via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I installed a drip le

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:45 PM To: C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal As for old hoses that's why it is so important to close your through hulls when away from the boat

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
A nice sailboat sank at the dock here a couple of years ago due to failure of a galley sink drain connection. I've gotten religion regarding closing of thru-hulls. Cheers, Dave On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I’m a firm believer in

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread Brien Sadler via CnC-List
I’m a firm believer in shutting the through hulls every time I leave the boat. Probably the submariner in me that doesn’t like to expose piping to sea pressure when I can let a valve take the brunt of it. Always a “straight board”. Sent from my iPad

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal

2018-02-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
As for old hoses that's why it is so important to close your through hulls when away from the boat. Josh On Feb 17, 2018 4:32 PM, "Len Mitchell via CnC-List" wrote: > I installed a drip less shaft seal about 7 or 8 years ago when I replaced > my cutlass bearing. Like

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal - now hoses

2018-02-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Hear! Hear! High on my list! In the 1st 4 months I had Touche' I replaced all the thru hull hoses, the alcohol stove hose, and all the engine hoses. The two I didn't think about were the fuel fill hose and shaft log hose. I was painfully reminded of the former after filling the tank one day

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread schiller via CnC-List
I put a PYI Packless Shaft Seal on Corsair in 2001.  It was a ventless model and it was important to burp it in the spring during launch.  It was still pristine when Corsair was scrapped last year.  There is nothing wrong with the traditional stuffing box but those who are concerned of the

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Brien Sadler via CnC-List
It sounds like both options are good options. I guess now the question is how much I want to spend to stop the water from coming in the bilge. Last season I knew of two leaks I had letting water in the bilge the access plate on the water pump was leaking when I ran the engine and the stuffing

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I forgot but someone else has mentioned in the past that the vent isn't even really necessary. Just burp the seal after each relaunch. You can eliminate the vent by plugging the hole with a small brass pipe plug. Josh On Feb 16, 2018 9:06 PM, "Brien Sadler via CnC-List"

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Wow. Mine was over 25 years old Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2018, at 07:38, Michael Brannon via CnC-List > wrote: > > You can always run the vent line to your salt water supply to the engine. > That is how mine is run.You need to change the rubber boot every

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
I installed one on Pegasus, I ran the vent above the waterline, and put a small loop in. The purpose of the line is to vent air from the seal to prevent the carbon seal ring from burning up. On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 6:17 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I had a

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Eric Frank via CnC-List
The PO changed from the original stuffing box to a PSS seal on Cat’s Paw sometime between 1980 (when my father sold the boat to him) and 2004 (when I bought her back). That PSS did not have the vent tube option. There was some wear on the carbon(?) face (that seals to the SS part) although no

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Dittto. I use Teflon impregnated packing in a standard stuffing box. No issues. Drips slightly when running. Dry when not. I have the tools, knowledge, diligence and flexibility to properly adjust it. Buddy of mine has PSS drip-less in his boat. We were making trip to coast one day when his

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-17 Thread Michael Brannon via CnC-List
You can always run the vent line to your salt water supply to the engine. That is how mine is run.You need to change the rubber boot every 5-7 years.I generally replace the entire assembly at that time. Mikel Brannon Virginia Lee 93295 C 36 CB Virginia Beach, VA

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Of course, it is always “your boat, your choice”, but the PSS is not unsafe. Great majority, if not all of the reports of dripless shaft seals failing catastrophically are on boats where these seals were not properly maintained. Dripless is dripless (not a drop of water over 3 years; completely

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Neil Andersen via CnC-List
What “quality product” have you found success with? Neil Andersen 1982 C 32 Rock Hall, MD Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of robert via CnC-List Sent: Friday,

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Had one since 1986. Replaced with a new one a few years ago. Works great. Joe. Coquina Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2018, at 21:17, David Knecht via CnC-List > wrote: > > I had a PSS put in on my 34 thinking it was a good upgrade, but on my 34+ > decided not

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
There's a good article about "Do it yourself" dripless shaft seal installation in the February issue of BoatUS magazine, page 72. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rise City YC Portland, OR On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 7:39 PM, Brien Sadler via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > This is why I

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Brien Sadler via CnC-List
This is why I love this group, lots of great experience to draw on. I’m reconsidering switching based on the advice. I never heard about or thought about the catastrophic potential with the PSS. It’s also significantly less expensive to keep what I have and re-pack. Thanks again. Brien

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Hi Brien, Have to share this. I don't know what the previous owner used in my 1990 shaft seal. It does leak slightly when I first launch and when running, but not after the engine stops. I've owned the boat fifteen years since 2002 and never tightened the packing. No, I won't take it apart. I

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I have it for 3+ years. Installed it right after I bought this boat. The vent line burps water, mainly when you switch reverse/forward quickly (like when docking). The harder you reverse, the more chance the water will burp inside. Initially I tried to run it high, but there wasn't enough room

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I don't think you have to run it overboard. It just has to get above the water line on all angles of heel. I didn't install mine so it isn't a fresh memory but I believe mine runs into the engine compartment, through the compartment roof and into the HVAC compartment under the companion way

Re: Stus-List PSS Shaft Seal

2018-02-16 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I had a PSS put in on my 34 thinking it was a good upgrade, but on my 34+ decided not to do it. The reason is that if not maintained properly, you can have catastrophic failure of the PSS and sink the boat. I replaced the packing with teflon on my 34+ 3 years ago and it was pretty trivial,

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal 33 mkII

2015-04-13 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
a refresh. ;-) Thanks Marek! Bruno From: dziedzi...@hotmail.com To: bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal 33 mkII Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 13:05:59 -0400 I think you need about 1” (3 cm) between your old stuffing box and the coupler (if I

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal 33 mkII

2015-04-13 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List
Bruno, We did this on Perception 12 years ago, tight but had room. Since empowering, and now just enough room! Paul. :) On Apr 13, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi all, I'm about o buy a PSS shaft seal for my 33 mkII

Re: Stus-List PSS shaft seal 33 mkII

2015-04-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I think you need about 1” (3 cm) between your old stuffing box and the coupler (if I remember correctly). I posted a few pics from before and after. I had just enough room to put the retention collar in: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8tlcy5k0rwf4dzc/AAA7LXt-UzZJn3F5o7h4n2ENa?dl=0. For