Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> > Mike > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Matthew L. Wolford via > CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:39 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-19 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Of Matthew L. > Wolford via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:39 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Matthew L. Wolford > Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none > > With all due respect, my “foolish” approach has worked for several

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2017-09-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none With all due respect, my “foolish” approach has worked for several years without incident. I have several Garmin GPS units on board for back up, but I haven’t had the need to consult them as yet. I guess

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-19 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
, September 19, 2017 2:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none “I did not want to invest in an expensive nav system only to discover that it is obsolete by the time I hook it up. “ Of course the life of an iPad

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2017-09-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none FWIW, for most navigating on our boat (Lake Erie), I use Navionics on an iPad, which is in a waterproof

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2017-09-19 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
10:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none I see you used to be on Sailing Anarchy, too. Rick Brass Imzadi C 38 mk2 #47 la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1 #225 Washingt

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2017-09-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none I see you used to be on Sailing Anarchy, too. Rick Brass Imzadi C 38 mk2 #47 la Belle Aurore C 25 mk1 #225 Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mail

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2017-09-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
-list.com Cc: jackbrennan <jackbren...@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Other email sailing lists tend to be plagued by a scarcity of real experts, flamers, know nothings who believe they know it all, big personalities who argue at th

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2017-09-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
waters. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 10:15 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Pl

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2017-09-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Denis, If you keep the GPS w

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
7 12:27 PM To: C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Even the ones that NOAA gives away aren't officially authorized for navigation. The exception is when a certified chart

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2017-09-18 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
ab®|PRO > > > ---- Original message > From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List > Date:09/18/2017 5:51 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Frederick G Street via CnC-List > Cc: Marek Dziedzic > Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none &g

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2017-09-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Marek — with the exception of the occasional “RTFM” comment ("read the f@%*ing manual”…), I tend to be a friendly kind of guy… :^) I think the Sabres of the mid- to late-1990’s and early to mid 2000’s are what C could have been if they had been able to stay in business and stable. They’re

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2017-09-18 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO Original message From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List Date:09/18/2017 5:51 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Cc: Marek Dziedzic Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Fred,  

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2017-09-18 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
tember 18, 2017 16:09 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none On Sep 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, David Castor via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Mostly lurk on this list since I bought a Sabre instea

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 16:09 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Frederick G Street<mailto:f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none On Sep 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, David Castor via CnC-List

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2017-09-18 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
Agreed. Radar is expensive. My boat came with a 10-year old or so Raymarine chart plotter/radar. I looked into replacing the chart plotter since it has some issues losing GPS fix. Discovered that I'd also have to replace the radar. So deferring chart plotter replacement for another season. OK -

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
From: David Castor via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 9/18/17 13:24 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Castor <dpcas...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none I'd put higher priority on radar. Not all

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2017-09-18 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
I'd put higher priority on radar. Not all vessels have AIS. Or have it on. Just my $0.02. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:11 PM Rick Rohwer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I have general charts aboard and tools to dead reckon with! I can see no > reason to not have at least a

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
> On Sep 18, 2017, at 2:00 PM, David Castor via CnC-List > wrote: > > Mostly lurk on this list since I bought a Sabre instead of C We forgive you… :^) Actually, my slip neighbor has a Sabre 36, and it’s a beautiful boat. I may go that way someday, too. > I live

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
I have general charts aboard and tools to dead reckon with! I can see no reason to not have at least a handheld GPS aboard with batteries. If you can swing it though you should have a plotter! Great peace of mind! I think I would prefer having AIS to radar. I have the radar but no AIS

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
Mostly lurk on this list since I bought a Sabre instead of C I live in Port Angeles, WA. Just wanted to say that I would make radar a high priority in these waters. Virtually any boat venturing into the Strait of Juan de Fuca has radar, down to the 20 foot fishing boats. Best of luck. Dave

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I agree with Jack, as well; but the original post was sent by a person who sails in the Vancouver Island area, which has far less shifting sand and far more immovable rock… :^) Any electronic device is not a replacement for good seamanship and piloting — but it can definitely be of great

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread David Kaseler via CnC-List
Fl. > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO > > > Original message > From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List > Date:09/18/2017 10:14 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Frederick G Stree

Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-18 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date:09/18/2017 10:14 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders an

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2017-09-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Oh, and I forgot to mention: as far as electronic charts go, all of the Raymarine plotters can be ordered with Navionics+ North America chips at a very reasonable cost; these charts are complete for BOTH US and Canadian waters, both coastal and inland. I think the new Axiom 7” plotters from

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2017-09-18 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
] On Behalf Of Chris > Hobson via CnC-List > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 21:29 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Chris Hobson <ch...@hobsonbuildsco.com> > Subject: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none > > We’re in Vancouver BC, Geor

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2017-09-18 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, September 17, 2017 20:13 > *To:* CnClist <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List GPS

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2017-09-18 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
t <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none > > Wow! A wide range of answers in this thread. > > I have a Garmin 128 (text only display) below at the navstation, a 5 inch &g

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2017-09-17 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 20:13 To: CnClist <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Wow! A wide rang

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2017-09-17 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Wow! A wide range of answers in this thread. I have a Garmin 128 (text only display) below at the navstation, a 5 inch charplotter at the helm. The two are connected to a switch which feeds the instruments, autosteerer and VHF (with AIS receive capability). One of the units is always "active".

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2017-09-17 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Agreed, however I've been boarded and inspected by 3 different countries and have never been asked to show any charts of any type. In this day and age I doubt anyone would take exception to anyone not carrying paper charts. Mike PERSUASION C 37 K/CB Long Sault > On Sep 17, 2017, at 12:22 PM,

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2017-09-17 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Josh, I'll second the recommendation of the 182C, I had almost the same, a 192C, until last summer when it suddenly died. I really liked having it on the aft deck house bulkhead were skipper and crew can see and use it. I've replaced it with a Garmin echoMap 54dv, which is pretty much an

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2017-09-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> world so you can stay away from them. Otherwise, you may just find some > the hard way! > > Danny > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 9/1

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2017-09-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Paper charts are still required by the authorities. Only the most expensive and largest military and commercial vessels have qualified electronic charts. Our "chartplotters" don't count. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 17, 2017 12:09 PM, "Patrick H. Wesley via

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2017-09-17 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Patrick What's your sailing radius. Paper charts are heavy and take up a lot of space. I was once told the paper charts to go from Toronto to St. John's weighed 60 lbs. Heck our coast guards don't use paper any more. Been paperless and happy for at least 5 years. Mike PERSUASION C 37

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2017-09-17 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
e, you may just find some the hard way! > > Danny > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 9/17/17 9:14 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-li

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2017-09-17 Thread Patrick H. Wesley via CnC-List
Always have paper charts for a number of reasons. Also make sure you have at least a radar reflector! Patrick Wesley On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 9:04 AM David Kaseler via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Chris, > Wow. Things can get pretty complicated. > We have been sailing around Puget

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2017-09-17 Thread David Kaseler via CnC-List
Chris, Wow. Things can get pretty complicated. We have been sailing around Puget Sound including the Georgia Strait for 40 years. We have a small Garmin GPS below at the nav station. The important navigation tools for us are my paper charts, parallel rules, dividers, a plastic speed distance

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2017-09-17 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Our boat came with a Garmin 182C and we've been exceedingly happy with its capabilities. This is our primary navigation device and is used 100%of the time. Everything else is a backup or augmentation to this device. They can be found for pretty cheap on ebay and had the option of an integrated

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2017-09-17 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
illay.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Chris, Up until last year, we had a Garmin GPSMap 2006C at the helm. We are now running with a Raymarine e97, which also interfaces with the autopilot and, eventually, other instruments (wind, speed, depth).

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2017-09-17 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Chris, Up until last year, we had a Garmin GPSMap 2006C at the helm. We are now running with a Raymarine e97, which also interfaces with the autopilot and, eventually, other instruments (wind, speed, depth). On the e97, we have downloaded to raster charts, vector charts, c-map, and Navionics

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2017-09-17 Thread Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Chris You've received lots of good advise. One recommendation I would make is get Garmin Blue Charts then become an Active Captain member and download the data base. I found Active Captain invaluable on our cruise to the Bahamas and back. I use android tablet at the helm with Navionics, iPad

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2017-09-17 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
An older Garmin 292 mounted at the helm, a (handheld) Garmin 76Csx in a stand with power cable at the nav table. PC Laptop (with a Garmin GPS 20x) running Garmin nRoute (or something else) at the nav when we're doing serious multi-day cruising. A Furuno GPS (old school, not a plotter) at the nav

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2017-09-16 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
t Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:59 PM To: 1 CnC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none Garmin 276C at the helm, Garmin 182C at the nav table, radar at the nav. PC running

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2017-09-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
, September 16, 2017 21:29 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chris Hobson <ch...@hobsonbuildsco.com> Subject: Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none We’re in Vancouver BC, Georgia Straight can get foggy, tides come and go and we’re new at this. We have no GPS on our new

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2017-09-16 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Garmin 276C at the helm, Garmin 182C at the nav table, radar at the nav. PC running OpenCPN at the nav when we're doing serious multi-day cruising, GPS antenna hidden behind panels. Android phone running Navionics. Spare GPS in the ditch bag. Most days, it's just the 276C. Navionics on the phone

Stus-List GPS, Chart Plodders and Technology when there is none

2017-09-16 Thread Chris Hobson via CnC-List
We’re in Vancouver BC, Georgia Straight can get foggy, tides come and go and we’re new at this. We have no GPS on our new to us 1981 C 30 and very little in the way of navigation other than dead reckoning, basic familiarity with the area and a compass at the helm. It’s fun because it’s like we