date:20190426

Andrew Button that statement says all i need to know about Beneteau and
Hunter yachts. Confirmation of my limited assessment

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:29 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> People have done all kinds of things on all kinds of boats. Marry sailed
> across the Atlantic on a 13 footer. ( good book: Tinkerbelle) but the back
> remains that while Beneteaus and Hunters etc. are fine for their design
> parameters, those parameters don't include serious sailing. They just
> aren't designed and put together as well as C I deliver boats for a
> living. I will deliver C I won't deliver Beneteaus or Hunters or boats
> of that ilk, it's too much trouble...and danger.
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> > On Apr 26, 2019, at 17:46, Francois Rivard via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Like Chuck,
> >
> > I'm guilty of bragging about the competition crushing speed of my 34+
> and her 40 footer like accommodations but I also came close to making an
> offer on a Hunter 37.5.
> >
> > If you google it a bit, you'll find a guy who's circumnavigated a few
> times over on a Hunter 37.5.
> >
> > I also have a (Wealthy) good friend who cruises the Mediterranean all
> winter long every year on an old Beneteau 40.
> >
> > " FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's dream",
> so I am careful not to bash other brands or other dreams."
> >
> > Well said Chuck
> >
> > Have a great weekend.
> >
> > -Francois Rivard
> > 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> > Lake Lanier, GA
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Stus-List 35-1 Rudder stop upgrade - project documentation

Well, I finally finished the servicing and upgrade to Touche's steering
system.  Listers may recall this started in January and was interrupted by
my month long Colorado ski trip.

In summary, to my knowledge, Touche's steering system had never had a major
maintenance session.  I pulled the pedestal, cables, sheaves, etc. for
inspection and lubrication.  That's when I found a poor design issue with
the system.  There were two small bolts installed in the last link on
either side of the chain.  At full turn of the rudder, these bolts
contacted the teeth in the pedestal's sprocket acting as a rudder stop.
Over time, the bolts had a deleterious effect on the sprocket.

I would recommend to owners of earlier 35's, and any other older models
which may have the bolts in the chain, that they inspect the sprocket in
their pedestal.

I also found a broken strand on one of the steering cables.  This break may
also have been related to the design issue.

About halfway through the build run of the 35-1's, C radically changed
the rudder stop design by adding a bulkhead aft of the rudder and attaching
two aluminum plates to the quadrant which contacted the bulkhead at full
travel.

I decided to mimic the newer design, eliminating the bolts in the chain.

I can tell you that it is quite a project, not to be taken casually.  I did
document the project fairly well.  The link to the project document is:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Re: Stus-List Offshore Boat

2019-04-26 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List

People have done all kinds of things on all kinds of boats. Marry sailed across 
the Atlantic on a 13 footer. ( good book: Tinkerbelle) but the back remains 
that while Beneteaus and Hunters etc. are fine for their design parameters, 
those parameters don't include serious sailing. They just aren't designed and 
put together as well as C I deliver boats for a living. I will deliver 
C I won't deliver Beneteaus or Hunters or boats of that ilk, it's too much 
trouble...and danger.
Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Apr 26, 2019, at 17:46, Francois Rivard via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Like Chuck, 
> 
> I'm guilty of bragging about the competition crushing speed of my 34+ and her 
> 40 footer like accommodations but I also came close to making an offer on a 
> Hunter 37.5. 
> 
> If you google it a bit, you'll find a guy who's circumnavigated a few times 
> over on a Hunter 37.5. 
> 
> I also have a (Wealthy) good friend who cruises the Mediterranean all winter 
> long every year on an old Beneteau 40. 
> 
> " FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's dream", so I 
> am careful not to bash other brands or other dreams." 
> 
> Well said Chuck
> 
> Have a great weekend. 
> 
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, GA
> ___
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Re: Stus-List Garboard plug 37/40 update.

2019-04-26 Thread rjcasciato--- via CnC-List

A handy tip..choose the garboard plug size so that you can thread a PVC male fitting into  the hole for the winterthen make an elbow that fits the male fitting and water will be directed away from the hull all winter.Do the reverse before launching in the spring.Of course, if you are in the water all yearsimply disregard this suggestion...Ron C.Sent from Xfinity Connect Application-Original Message-From: cnc-list@cnc-list.comTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: muckl...@gmail.comSent: 2019-04-26 6:24:15 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Garboard plug 37/40 update.Pictures?Josh On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:12 PM Len Mitchell via CnC-List  wrote:Magnets worked perfectly to locate the hole and drill from outside. Thanks for the suggestion Eric! It is mounted in the bottom of the bilge flush with the keel stub and looks great. Len

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Re: Stus-List Garboard plug 37/40 update.

2019-04-26 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List

Pictures??

On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 at 19:24, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
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> Pictures?
>
> Josh
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:12 PM Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Magnets worked perfectly to locate the hole and drill from outside.
>> Thanks for the suggestion Eric! It is mounted in the bottom of the bilge
>> flush with the keel stub and looks great. Len
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List Beta Marine 20hp

2019-04-26 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List

Thanks for the info - I'll pass on that one. Too many unknowns
and too far away to gamble for me
Mark

There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
On 2019-04-26 8:36 p.m., Dave Godwin
via CnC-List wrote:

Mark and Kevin,

Thanks for reminding me.

Okay, a cursory take which is all that I was able to
do. It may allegedly have very few hours on it but it’s 15-years
old. The story is that the gentleman had it installed his
sailboat but fell fatally ill and gave the boat to the yard
owner. The yard owner removed to engine which was apparently the
only thing of value.

It’s a Beta Marine type BD722, Engine number 2L5161,
Woc(?) K11036, Output 20BHP @ 3600 RPM. Fresh-water cooled. Date
of manufacture unknown to me.

It has an attached transmission but I was unable to
identify it. Eyeball inspection indicates the shaft is in-line
with the crank.

It appears to be in fairly reasonable shape with
factory alternator, original belts and engine mounts.
Miscellaneous hoses. Some surface rust but nothing out of the
ordinary or troubling.

I did NOT see an instrument panel and failed to ask
about one but will do that if there is interest. I did not
discuss price.

A few of photos available on request.

Regards,

Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue
Refit

On Apr 26, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Kevin Burke via
CnC-List
wrote:

I might be interested. I am in Virginia.

On 4/25/2019 1:16 PM, Dave
Godwin via CnC-List wrote:

Listers,

I was talking to a friend this morning.
He’s out of the marina business and is getting rid
of a bunch of marine items that he has lying around.
I’m interested in some teak but he mentioned that he
had a virtually new Beta Marine 20hp diesel for
sale. I don’t have any clear details but I believe I
heard “around 5 hours on the motor” and “maybe
$2,000.00”.

I’m going to go look at his stuff
tomorrow morning.

If someone was interested, I’ll explore
that motor in more detail.

Regards,

Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s
Overdue Refit

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Re: Stus-List Beta Marine 20hp

2019-04-26 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List

Mark and Kevin,

Thanks for reminding me.

Okay, a cursory take which is all that I was able to do. It may allegedly have 
very few hours on it but it’s 15-years old. The story is that the gentleman had 
it installed his sailboat but fell fatally ill and gave the boat to the yard 
owner. The yard owner removed to engine which was apparently the only thing of 
value. 

It’s a Beta Marine type BD722, Engine number 2L5161, Woc(?) K11036, Output 
20BHP @ 3600 RPM. Fresh-water cooled. Date of manufacture unknown to me.

It has an attached transmission but I was unable to identify it. Eyeball 
inspection indicates the shaft is in-line with the crank.

It appears to be in fairly reasonable shape with factory alternator, original 
belts and engine mounts. Miscellaneous hoses. Some surface rust but nothing out 
of the ordinary or troubling.

I did NOT see an instrument panel and failed to ask about one but will do that 
if there is interest. I did not discuss price.

A few of photos available on request.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Apr 26, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Kevin Burke via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I might be interested.  I am in Virginia.
> 
> On 4/25/2019 1:16 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List wrote:
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I was talking to a friend this morning. He’s out of the marina business and 
>> is getting rid of a bunch of marine items that he has lying around. I’m 
>> interested in some teak but he mentioned that he had a virtually new Beta 
>> Marine 20hp diesel for sale. I don’t have any clear details but I believe I 
>> heard “around 5 hours on the motor” and “maybe $2,000.00”.
>> 
>> I’m going to go look at his stuff tomorrow morning.
>> 
>> If someone was interested, I’ll explore that motor in more detail.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Beta Marine 20hp

2019-04-26 Thread Kevin Burke via CnC-List


I might be interested.  I am in Virginia.

On 4/25/2019 1:16 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List wrote:

Listers,

I was talking to a friend this morning. He’s out of the marina 
business and is getting rid of a bunch of marine items that he has 
lying around. I’m interested in some teak but he mentioned that he had 
a virtually new Beta Marine 20hp diesel for sale. I don’t have any 
clear details but I believe I heard “around 5 hours on the motor” and 
“maybe $2,000.00”.


I’m going to go look at his stuff tomorrow morning.

If someone was interested, I’ll explore that motor in more detail.

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 


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Re: Stus-List Was Offshore boat, now Good Sailing Books

2019-04-26 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List

I'll have to save this thread for when I need more books to read. I suspect
I'll be busy with the boat for a while. I've read several Hal Roth books,
which I found interesting, as his first one mirrors the trip a friend made
about 40 years later in the early 2000s. I alternated chapters between the
Hal Roth "Two on a Big Ocean" and my friend's blog of the same areas,
giving some interesting comparatives to how much or little has changed in
40 years. My friend (Nick Coghlan, a teacher of mine from school) has a
blog at http://www.bosunbird.com which includes his two circumnavigations.
I am about to read his book "Winter in Fireland". I'm not a fan of the
cold, so I won't be attempting this... :)

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:48 AM Thomas Delaney via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Al,
>
> I too have enjoyed Kretschmer's books. On his recommendation, and to
> your point about sailing in Puget Sound, have you read PASSAGE TO
> JUNEAU by Jonathan Raban? Simply sublime. READY ABOUT by G. Peabody
> Gardner was another great read focusing on Maine and Nova Scotia.
>
> Anyone else have any must-read sailing book suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> --
> Snow Goose
> 35-1
> City Island, NY
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Allan Hester 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:34:09 +
> Subject: Stus-List Offshore boat
>
>
>
> A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight.
>
> I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John
> Kretschmer which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C
> 35 Mk 3 offshore is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to
> San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to
> Hawaii would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen.
>
> Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a
> tall order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of
> the most beautiful cruising areas in the world.
> >From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and
> Alaska I think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for
> decades.
>
> I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you
> are sailing now.  Not where you think you will be sailing in the
> future."
> Very well said Josh.
>
> I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal.
> Its a fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a
> few jerry jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
> She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and
> other creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be
> comfortable at anchor. At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in
> a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of
> running a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The
> C 35 works for me.
>
> On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named
> Jeanne Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation.
> She completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the
> oldest female to have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is
> expected to complete her journey in early July. She maintains an
> excellent blog and does interviews while at sea. She is currently
> south of Australia and 18,000 NM into her trip. If interested her
> website and blog are here:
>
> https://svnereida.com/
>
> Al H.
> C 35 Mk 3
> Pacific Ranger
> Vancouver, BC
>
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Re: Stus-List Weird rod

2019-04-26 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List

I have the same rob in front of my rudder.  This year enough of the bottom
paint was removed that I believe I was able to see threads slightly exposed
just as it entered the hull.  If anybody is missing this rod and is
interested in installing one, it appears quite easy to simply drill and tap
a hole.  Then install a stainless bolt, and then cut off the head.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yTDJjOGJKa2NncFk/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:15 PM svrebeccaleah via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Both of the landfall models (38 & 39) have not had this bar. The 38 was
> hull #4 so maybe this rod thing is post 1979, or it wasn't installed on the
> landfall models.
>
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
> Sv Rebecca Leah
> C & C LF39
> 253-208-1412
> Port Orchard YC wa.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
> Date: 4/26/19 11:23 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
> Subject: Stus-List Weird rod
>
> I have a metal rod in front of the rudder, which I believe is to help
> avoid seaweed and other floating debris from fouling the rudder post.
> Nothing at all in front of the keel though.
>
> Tom B
>
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com
>
>
>
> At 09:00 AM 4/26/2019, you wrote:
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:58:42 + (UTC)
> From: johnr...@aol.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
> Message-ID: <1965119471.1023889.1556294322...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the
> underside just ahead of the keel.? No one seems to know its purpose.
> John McLaughlinC 29-2Falcon
>
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Re: Stus-List Garboard plug 37/40 update.

2019-04-26 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List

Pictures?

Josh

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:12 PM Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Magnets worked perfectly to locate the hole and drill from outside. Thanks
> for the suggestion Eric! It is mounted in the bottom of the bilge flush
> with the keel stub and looks great. Len
>
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Re: Stus-List Weird rod

2019-04-26 Thread John Christopher via CnC-List

My 1983 LF 38 #155 has one.


/John

> On Apr 26, 2019, at 6:14 PM, svrebeccaleah  wrote:
> 
> Both of the landfall models (38 & 39) have not had this bar. The 38 was hull 
> #4 so maybe this rod thing is post 1979, or it wasn't installed on the 
> landfall models. 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy 
> Sv Rebecca Leah 
> C & C LF39
> 253-208-1412
> Port Orchard YC wa.
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
> Date: 4/26/19 11:23 (GMT-08:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
> Subject: Stus-List Weird rod
> 
> I have a metal rod in front of the rudder, which I believe is to help avoid 
> seaweed and other floating debris from fouling the rudder post.  Nothing at 
> all in front of the keel though.
> 
> Tom B
> 
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:00 AM 4/26/2019, you wrote:
> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:58:42 + (UTC)
>> From: johnr...@aol.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
>> Message-ID: <1965119471.1023889.1556294322...@mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the underside 
>> just ahead of the keel.? No one seems to know its purpose.
>> John McLaughlinC 29-2Falcon
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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List



Going to do this very thing Monday. 
I just greased the Maxprop. 
Removed the two set screws and tried to thread in a zerk fitting(grease 
nipple). Of course I forgot the prop was Italian and bought sae standard thread 
fittings. Got the metric and the rest was easy. Darn prop took almost an entire 
tube of grease. 
Now onto the rudder post. I should probably do that in metric. 
Jon Pratt
Hideaway 35-3
1 mile from The Office across the river. 
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Re: Stus-List Weird rod

2019-04-26 Thread svrebeccaleah via CnC-List

Both of the landfall models (38 & 39) have not had this bar. The 38 was hull #4 
so maybe this rod thing is post 1979, or it wasn't installed on the landfall 
models. Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah C & C LF39253-208-1412Port Orchard YC wa.
 Original message From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/26/19  11:23  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tom Buscaglia  Subject: Stus-List 
Weird rod 
I have a metal rod in front of the rudder, which I believe
is to help avoid seaweed and other floating debris from fouling the
rudder post.  Nothing at all in front of the keel though.
Tom B

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Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the
underside just ahead of the keel.? No one seems to know its purpose.
John McLaughlinC 29-2Falcon


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Stus-List Garboard plug 37/40 update.

2019-04-26 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List

Magnets worked perfectly to locate the hole and drill from outside. Thanks for 
the suggestion Eric! It is mounted in the bottom of the bilge flush with the 
keel stub and looks great. Len

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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

Hi Dave,
That's a shame about your friend's boat. I'm surprised that the Coast Guard 
couldn't use their portable pumps to save the boat. Must be more to the story. 
They must have lost control of the rudder to call the Coast Guard, and couldn't 
secure it so it worked and worked. What about the quadrant? It must have tore a 
big hole in the hull

My boat's previous owner bought a 40.7 and raced to Bermuda very successfully. 
Another friend bought a 36.7 and raced three Annapolis to Newport races 
doublehanded with his son. He finished first in class twice. I have pictures of 
him sailing with spinnaker w just the two of them.
.
One thing I like about my 34/36R is the rudder shaft enters the hull casing 
above the waterline and the fiberglass casing is solid right up to the deck. 
The rudder shaft is super heavy Schedule 80 SS pipe and about 3" in diameter.

I've experienced times when we couldn't power more than about 4.5 knots due to 
headwinds and rough seas, usually above 25 knots of wind. But going 4.5 knots 
straight upwind is sometimes better than sailing at 6 or 7 knots at an angle to 
where you want to go. A bigger three blade prop would help, but I'm happy with 
what I got a two blade feathering Max-Prop.

Chuck S

> On April 26, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dave Godwin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Be careful what you wish for. Or better, what you actually want in a 
> sailboat.
> 
> One of my closest friends and racing buddies owned a Beneteau 40.7 and 
> raced it extensively. Some years ago he was caught out short on the delivery 
> back from Key West Race Week and I filled in on the leg from Beaufort, N.C. 
> to its home in Annapolis.
> 
> We left Beaufort in the early AM with conditions of 12-15 directly on the 
> bow and 3’ seas out of the South. With the undersized Yanmar saildrive, we 
> were lucky to break 4 knots forward motion. Combination of undersized (read: 
> lightweight) motor, flat entry (read: pounding) made it very frustrating 
> until we could turn NE and pull some sail out.
> 
> With the high-aspect fine blade rudder, it took every bit of 
> concentration driving it. Stay in the grove or suffer the consequences.
> 
> Anyway, with the right conditions it was a very fast but edgy boat. I 
> could understand someone wanting one. Even me actually.
> 
> Several years later I was slotted to race on it for the Newport - Bermuda 
> Race. I passed on going as the delivery crew to Newport. A day later I got a 
> call from the owner who tersely told me that we weren’t racing to Bermuda.
> 
> The boat sank.
> 
> The carbon fiber rudder sawed itself in half, ultimately falling out 
> after being taken under tow the Shinnecock Coast Guard Station cutter. 
> Because of the construction of the rudder shaft, access by hand was futile 
> and the inflow of water could not be kept up with.
> 
> Fun times for my buddies…
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> > > On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:46 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via 
> CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > 
> > I love the sailing qualities of my C 34/36R, but if I didn't have 
> > her, I wouldn't mind owning a well maintained Hunter 35.5 or 37.5.
> > And I wouldn't mind owning a Farr designed Beneteau 36.7 or 40.7 or 
> > a Figaro II, all offshore boats.
> > 
> > FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's 
> > dream", so I am careful not to bash other brands or other dreams.
> > 
> > 
> > Chuck S
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> 

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Stus-List Offshore Boat

2019-04-26 Thread Francois Rivard via CnC-List

Like Chuck,

I'm guilty of bragging about the competition crushing speed of my 34+ and
her 40 footer like accommodations but I also came close to making an offer
on a Hunter 37.5.

If you google it a bit, you'll find a guy who's circumnavigated a few times
over on a Hunter 37.5.

I also have a (Wealthy) good friend who cruises the Mediterranean all
winter long every year on an old Beneteau 40.

" FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's dream", so
I am careful not to bash other brands or other dreams."

Well said Chuck

Have a great weekend.

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-26 Thread john sandford via CnC-List

Hi

I’m late posting on this one.

LF38 rudder stock Grease fitting is very tricky to get access to unless you are 
very skinny, flexible and have long arms and eyes on stalks.

I removed the grease fitting and replaced it with a high pressure hose with a 
grease nipple on the end. Found the hose at Crappytire, in the grease gun 
section. NPT male one end and female on the other.

Now I can apply grease using a grease gun in the Stbd Lazarete, alongside the 
fuel tank, without needing the above mentioned genetics.

And yes, what a HUGE difference a bit/lot of grease makes.

 

 

 

From: Camille Cloutier [mailto:camillepo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: April-26-19 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

 

Hi!!

 

Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated! 

 

Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White grease?

 

Have a good day! 

 

Camille

 

 

 

Le mer. 24 avr. 2019 à 15:36, Dreuge via CnC-List  a 
écrit :

Camille,

 

I originally had steering which was stiff and somewhat resistant  to turning.  
My problem turned out to be old dry crusted grease in the rudder tube.  After 
dropping the rudder, cleaning out the old, and replacing the rudder lubed with 
SuperLube, resulted in nice smooth steering.  I grease it via a cup about once 
a year.  All remains nice and well.

 

It sounds easy, but it was a challenge to remove the radial. The bolts holding 
the radial together in my case were galled/corroded in place.  

 

Take a look at by blog post:  
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2014/12/rudder-and-steering.html

 

 

As for a grease cup, you likely do have one (or had one).  it should be on the 
aft starboard side of the rudder rube.   It is easy to access with the steering 
radial removed.  Regular access requires an arm contortion trick: open the deck 
access plate just aft of the rudder post, stick you arm down and twist it under 
the radial drive disk, then reach towards the rudder post.   It should be there.

 

 

 

-
Paul E.

1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

 

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

 

 

On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hi,

We just signed in the CnC-List mailing list and we would have a question
concerning our C boat Landfall 38. We live in Qu?bec and we are french
speaking so I'll try to express myself as good as I can :)

We find that the streering wheel is harder to turn then other C we have
tried. We have replace all the wires so we are sure that the problem
doesn't come from the pedestal. In the instruction manual, they talk about a
grease cup which we don't have. We don't have teflon washer around the
rudder shaft in the water either.

Does anyone have informations about how the whole rudder system is put
together so we can recondition it to have a smooth and easy steering wheel
?

Thank you very much

Camille

 

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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

I don't think it's practical to add zerk fittings while the rudder is in the 
boat.

In 2007, I had the rudder out of the tube and so was able to drill through the 
casing and each Delrin bearing. I used a small 1/8" bit. I then epoxied a 
stainless bushing (1/2" MPT x 1/4" FPT) to the outside of the fiberglass casing 
using some pieces of cloth and West System 404 filler. All of the threads of 
the bushing and the hex are captured in fiberglass reinforced epoxy. The zerk 
fittings are screwed into the 1/4" holes. The bushing allows me a way to change 
the zerk without bothering the epoxy. Zerks have a spring loaded ball and 
sometimes fail. I had to replace one that wouldn't stop weeping about five 
years ago. All stainless parts were ordered from McMaster-Carr.

Chuck S, Rersolute, 1990 C 34/36R

> On April 26, 2019 at 4:18 PM David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Dumb question...can you install a zerk  with the rudder installed?
> 
> David F. Risch, J. D.
> Gulf Stream Associates, LLC 
> (401) 419-4650 
> 
> 
> -
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dennis C. via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 4:07 PM
> To: CnClist
> Cc: Dennis C.
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3
>  
> There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings.
> 
> 
> https://greaseextensionhoses.com/product/custom-length-grease-fitting-relocation-hose/
>  
> 
> Only problem with that one is you have to drill and tap the cap for 1/8 
> NPT thread.
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> 
> 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an 
> > > extension hose and proper fitting to extend this out? 
> > > Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the 
> > > scupper hose at least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by 
> > > others.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List

Be careful what you wish for. Or better, what you actually want in a sailboat.

One of my closest friends and racing buddies owned a Beneteau 40.7 and raced it 
extensively. Some years ago he was caught out short on the delivery back from 
Key West Race Week and I filled in on the leg from Beaufort, N.C. to its home 
in Annapolis.

We left Beaufort in the early AM with conditions of 12-15 directly on the bow 
and 3’ seas out of the South. With the undersized Yanmar saildrive, we were 
lucky to break 4 knots forward motion. Combination of undersized (read: 
lightweight) motor, flat entry (read: pounding) made it very frustrating until 
we could turn NE and pull some sail out.

With the high-aspect fine blade rudder, it took every bit of concentration 
driving it. Stay in the grove or suffer the consequences.

Anyway, with the right conditions it was a very fast but edgy boat. I could 
understand someone wanting one. Even me actually.

Several years later I was slotted to race on it for the Newport - Bermuda Race. 
I passed on going as the delivery crew to Newport. A day later I got a call 
from the owner who tersely told me that we weren’t racing to Bermuda.

The boat sank.

The carbon fiber rudder sawed itself in half, ultimately falling out after 
being taken under tow the Shinnecock Coast Guard Station cutter. Because of the 
construction of the rudder shaft, access by hand was futile and the inflow of 
water could not be kept up with.

Fun times for my buddies…

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:46 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love the sailing qualities of my C 34/36R, but if I didn't have her, I 
> wouldn't mind owning a well maintained Hunter 35.5 or 37.5. 
> And I wouldn't mind owning a Farr designed Beneteau 36.7 or 40.7 or a Figaro 
> II, all offshore boats.
> 
> FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's dream", so I 
> am careful not to bash other brands or other dreams.
> 
> 
> Chuck S
> 

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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

No problem install new grease cups if you must, drill out the old one and
tap for new if it breaks when you try to remove it with a wrench. Moyer
marine sell similar grease cups. My 35MKii needed 2 new ones. The top of
the cup comes off and you can fill them with grease, the top is the same
piece you turn to drive more grease into the tube.  I use marine quality
grease.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dumb question...can you install a zerk  with the rudder installed?
>
> *David F. Risch, J. D.*
>
> *Gulf Stream Associates, LLC*
>
>
> *(401) 419-4650 *
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Dennis C.
> via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 4:07 PM
> *To:* CnClist
> *Cc:* Dennis C.
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3
>
> There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings.
>
>
> https://greaseextensionhoses.com/product/custom-length-grease-fitting-relocation-hose/
>
>
> Only problem with that one is you have to drill and tap the cap for 1/8
> NPT thread.
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an extension hose
> and proper fitting to extend this out?
> Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the scupper hose at
> least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by others.
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel

If ya can’t tell the keel from the rudder should you really care about it

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:32 PM Don Kern via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Same on my C, ahead of the rudder. Always assume it was for the same
> reason David gave.
>
>
> Don Kern
>
> Fireball C MK2
>
> Bristol, RI
>
>
>
> On 4/26/2019 12:04 PM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
>
> I have one just head of the rudder...keeps lines from jamming in the space
> between hull and rudder.  Never saw one ahead of keel.
>
> *David F. Risch, J. D.*
>
> *Gulf Stream Associates, LLC*
>
>
> *(401) 419-4650 *
>
> --
> *From:* CnC-List 
>  on behalf of John McLaughlin via CnC-List
>  
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 11:58 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* johnr...@aol.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
>
> All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the
> underside just ahead of the keel.  No one seems to know its purpose.
>
> John McLaughlin
> C 29-2
> Falcon
>
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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

Blue grease marine

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:16 AM Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi!!
>
> Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated!
>
> Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White
> grease?
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Camille
>
>
>
> Le mer. 24 avr. 2019 à 15:36, Dreuge via CnC-List 
> a écrit :
>
>> Camille,
>>
>> I originally had steering which was stiff and somewhat resistant  to
>> turning.  My problem turned out to be old dry crusted grease in the rudder
>> tube.  After dropping the rudder, cleaning out the old, and replacing the
>> rudder lubed with SuperLube, resulted in nice smooth steering.  I grease it
>> via a cup about once a year.  All remains nice and well.
>>
>> It sounds easy, but it was a challenge to remove the radial. The bolts
>> holding the radial together in my case were galled/corroded in place.
>>
>> Take a look at by blog post:
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/2014/12/rudder-and-steering.html
>>
>>
>> As for a grease cup, you likely do have one (or had one).  it should be
>> on the aft starboard side of the rudder rube.   It is easy to access with
>> the steering radial removed.  Regular access requires an arm contortion
>> trick: open the deck access plate just aft of the rudder post, stick you
>> arm down and twist it under the radial drive disk, then reach towards the
>> rudder post.   It should be there.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Paul E.
>> 1981 C Landfall 38
>> S/V Johanna Rose
>> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>>
>> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Camille Cloutier via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We just signed in the CnC-List mailing list and we would have a question
>> concerning our C boat Landfall 38. We live in Qu?bec and we are french
>> speaking so I'll try to express myself as good as I can :)
>>
>> We find that the streering wheel is harder to turn then other C we have
>> tried. We have replace all the wires so we are sure that the problem
>> doesn't come from the pedestal. In the instruction manual, they talk
>> about a
>> grease cup which we don't have. We don't have teflon washer around the
>> rudder shaft in the water either.
>>
>> Does anyone have informations about how the whole rudder system is put
>> together so we can recondition it to have a smooth and easy steering wheel
>> ?
>>
>> Thank you very much
>>
>> Camille
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List

Was that me you got that from? 
I figured I was safe bashing other brands on this list. C owners have cause 
to be a little snobbish about their boats!
 I think about all those times sailing home from Cutty hunk with sheets 
slightly eased and watching all the Benehuntecats slide off to leeward into the 
mouth of the Sakonnett River and finally giving up on sailing and motoring the 
rest of the way while I enjoyed sailing my C
Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Apr 26, 2019, at 16:46, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love the sailing qualities of my C 34/36R, but if I didn't have her, I 
> wouldn't mind owning a well maintained Hunter 35.5 or 37.5. 
> And I wouldn't mind owning a Farr designed Beneteau 36.7 or 40.7 or a Figaro 
> II, all offshore boats.
> 
> FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's dream", so I 
> am careful not to bash other brands or other dreams.
> 
> 
> Chuck S
> 
>> On April 26, 2019 at 3:57 PM T Sutton via CnC-List  
>> wrote: 
>> 
>> I didn’t think Beneteaus were that bad that they would be mistaken for a 
>> Hunter!  LOL
>>  
>> Tom S
>>  
>> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 11:51 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Andrew Burton
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Offshore boat
>>  
>> By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it 
>> true that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)
>>  
>> Andy 
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 139 Tuckerman Ave
>> Middletown, RI
>> USA02842
>>  
>> www.burtonsailing.com
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2019, at 11:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < 
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
>> 
>>> John drove my boat through Hurricane Bob when it was new.  It was named 
>>> Northern Lights.  He has written about the experience in a couple of his 
>>> books. He's a great storyteller and a great guy.
>>>  
>>> Joel
>>>  
>>>  
 On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
 I also enjoy the Kretschmer books and his lessons learned, though I'm glad 
 not to be onboard during his "adventures". IIRC, He prefers more 
 comfortable performance cruisers like Hylas boats or his Skye 47. 
 
 Was surprised to see your circumnavigator is using a Najad, not a C, 
 though a very well equipped choice. 
 
 CS 
> On April 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Allan Hester via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight. 
> 
> I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John Kretschmer 
> which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C 35 Mk 3 
> offshore is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to 
> San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to Hawaii 
> would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen. 
> 
> Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a tall 
> order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of the most 
> beautiful cruising areas in the world. 
> From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and 
> Alaska I think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for 
> decades. 
> 
> I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you are 
> sailing now. Not where you think you will be sailing in the future." 
> Very well said Josh. 
> 
> I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal. Its a 
> fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a few 
> jerry jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel. 
> She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and other 
> creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be comfortable at 
> anchor. At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in 
> a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of running 
> a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The C 35 works 
> for me. 
> 
> On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named 
> Jeanne Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation. She 
> completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the oldest 
> female to have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is expected to 
> complete her journey in early July. She maintains an excellent blog and 
> does interviews while at sea. She is currently south of Australia and 
> 18,000 NM into her trip. If interested her website and blog are here: 
> 
> https://svnereida.com/ 
> 
> Al H. 
> C 35 Mk 3 
> Pacific Ranger 
> Vancouver, BC

Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

I love the sailing qualities of my C 34/36R, but if I didn't have her, I 
wouldn't mind owning a well maintained Hunter 35.5 or 37.5.
And I wouldn't mind owning a Farr designed Beneteau 36.7 or 40.7 or a Figaro 
II, all offshore boats.

FWIW, A wiser gentleman once told me, "every boat is someone's dream", so I am 
careful not to bash other brands or other dreams.


Chuck S


> On April 26, 2019 at 3:57 PM T Sutton via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I didn’t think Beneteaus were that bad that they would be mistaken for a 
> Hunter!  LOL
>  
> Tom S
>  
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 11:51 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Andrew Burton
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Offshore boat
>  
> By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is 
> it true that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)
>  
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>  http://www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Apr 26, 2019, at 11:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > > John drove my boat through Hurricane Bob when it was new. 
>  It was named Northern Lights.  He has written about the experience in a 
> couple of his books. He's a great storyteller and a great guy.
> >  
> > Joel
> >  
> >  
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < 
> > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I also enjoy the Kretschmer books and his 
> > lessons learned, though I'm glad not to be onboard during his "adventures". 
> > IIRC, He prefers more comfortable performance cruisers like Hylas boats or 
> > his Skye 47.
> > > 
> > > Was surprised to see your circumnavigator is using a Najad, 
> > > not a C, though a very well equipped choice.
> > > 
> > > CS
> > > 
> > > > > > > On April 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Allan Hester via 
> > > CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > A very interesting thread with some excellent comments 
> > > > and insight.
> > > > 
> > > > I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people 
> > > > as John Kretschmer which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking 
> > > > my C 35 Mk 3 offshore is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the 
> > > > coast to
> > > > San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south 
> > > > america and/or to Hawaii would be fabulous but in reality its not 
> > > > likely to happen.
> > > > 
> > > > Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary 
> > > > skills would be a tall order. In the meantime I would be missing out on 
> > > > cruising one of the most beautiful cruising areas in the world.
> > > > From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of 
> > > > Vancouver island and Alaska I think I will have enough to keep me busy 
> > > > and interested for decades.
> > > > 
> > > > I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that 
> > > > fits where you are sailing now. Not where you think you will be sailing 
> > > > in the future."
> > > > Very well said Josh.
> > > > 
> > > > I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 
> > > > 35 is ideal. Its a fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of 
> > > > water and with a few jerry jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
> > > > She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound 
> > > > sytem and other creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be 
> > > > comfortable at anchor. At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in
> > > > a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and 
> > > > the costs of running a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger 
> > > > boat. The C 35 works for me.
> > > > 
> > > > On a related side note there is a 76 year young British 
> > > > woman named Jeanne Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop 
> > > > circumnavigation. She completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the 
> > > > record as the oldest female to have done so. She hails from Victoria, 
> > > > BC and is expected to complete her journey in early July. She maintains 
> > > > an excellent blog and does interviews while at sea. She is currently 
> > > > south of Australia and 18,000 NM into her trip. If interested her 
> > > > website and blog are here:
> > > > 
> > > > https://svnereida.com/
> > > > 
> > > > Al H.
> > > > C 35 Mk 3
> > > > Pacific Ranger
> > > > Vancouver, BC
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >

Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread David Risch via CnC-List

Dumb question...can you install a zerk  with the rudder installed?


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650


From: CnC-List  on behalf of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 4:07 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings.

https://greaseextensionhoses.com/product/custom-length-grease-fitting-relocation-hose/

Only problem with that one is you have to drill and tap the cap for 1/8 NPT 
thread.

Dennis C.



Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an extension hose and 
proper fitting to extend this out?
Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the scupper hose at 
least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by others.



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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

There are vendors that sell extension hoses for grease fittings.

https://greaseextensionhoses.com/product/custom-length-grease-fitting-relocation-hose/


Only problem with that one is you have to drill and tap the cap for 1/8 NPT
thread.

Dennis C.



>> Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an extension hose
>> and proper fitting to extend this out?
>> Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the scupper hose
>> at least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by others.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

That is the grease cap. In Siri you can unscrew the top and squeeze grease
into it. The whole thing may unscrew and you can separate it when it is out.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:52 PM Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Getting excited about getting back on the water.
> but...
>
> I have a dumb question, and
> I see there are other posts about the rudder squeaking, some were thinking
> the same as was suggested to me locally, extend the fitting with a hose.
>
> Can I be confident that the squeaking issue is simply a grease problem?
> Should I be concerned about stains that look like old grease dripped down
> the post housing?
> I am posting a picture here. I assume this is my grease cap.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Na_wgHls_FKZ3TSl8GkxK7x5ObJPuvfU/view?usp=sharing
>
> Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an extension hose
> and proper fitting to extend this out?
> Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the scupper hose at
> least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by others.
>
> Sorry in advance, I feel stupid on this one. Is that cap supposed to open
> to get grease into it? Or am I supposed to unscrew it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ignorant as ever
>
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 mk3
> Nyack NY
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread T Sutton via CnC-List

I didn’t think Beneteaus were that bad that they would be mistaken for a 
Hunter!  LOL

Tom S 

From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 11:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it true 
that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)

Andy

Andrew Burton 
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ 
+401 965-5260

On Apr 26, 2019, at 11:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
wrote:

  John drove my boat through Hurricane Bob when it was new.  It was named 
Northern Lights.  He has written about the experience in a couple of his books. 
He's a great storyteller and a great guy. 

  Joel

  On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 wrote:

I also enjoy the Kretschmer books and his lessons learned, though I'm glad 
not to be onboard during his "adventures". IIRC, He prefers more comfortable 
performance cruisers like Hylas boats or his Skye 47.

Was surprised to see your circumnavigator is using a Najad, not a C, 
though a very well equipped choice. 

CS

  On April 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Allan Hester via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight.

  I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John Kretschmer 
which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C 35 Mk 3 offshore is 
in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to
  San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to Hawaii 
would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen.

  Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a tall 
order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of the most 
beautiful cruising areas in the world.
  From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and 
Alaska I think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for decades. 

  I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you are 
sailing now. Not where you think you will be sailing in the future."
  Very well said Josh.

  I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal. Its a 
fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a few jerry jugs 
I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
  She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and other 
creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be comfortable at anchor. At 
35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in 
  a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of running 
a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The C 35 works for 
me. 

  On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named 
Jeanne Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation. She 
completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the oldest female to 
have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is expected to complete her 
journey in early July. She maintains an excellent blog and does interviews 
while at sea. She is currently south of Australia and 18,000 NM into her trip. 
If interested her website and blog are here:

  https://svnereida.com/

  Al H.
  C 35 Mk 3 
  Pacific Ranger
  Vancouver, BC

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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

I always thought it was a derivative of "been towed".

Dennis C.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am not a French speaker (at least, not a francophone), but from what I
> know, the name Beneteau (or rather, Bénéteau) came from the last name of
> the original founder/constructor/shipwright.
>
> The “hunter” would be “chasseur”. If you want to stretch the similarities,
> “bonneteau” is French for a three-card game, but it has nothing to do with
> either Hunter or Beneteau.
>
> Marek
> Ottawa, ON
>
> *From:* Andrew Burton via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 11:52
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Andrew Burton
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Offshore boat
>
> By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it
> true that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)
>
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> +401 965-5260
>
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Re: Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

You'll have to drill and tap the cap for a grease fitting.

Make sure you buy/order a grease fitting with a thread size and pitch you
can tap.  They come in SAE, metric, tapered, straight, etc.  I recommend
you buy a stainless fitting.  They are readily available online.  mscdirect
sells them.

If you are going to add a hose to the grease cup cap, that's a whole
different can of worms.  I'll let one of the listers that has added a hose
speak to that.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 1:52 PM Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Getting excited about getting back on the water.
> but...
>
> I have a dumb question, and
> I see there are other posts about the rudder squeaking, some were thinking
> the same as was suggested to me locally, extend the fitting with a hose.
>
> Can I be confident that the squeaking issue is simply a grease problem?
> Should I be concerned about stains that look like old grease dripped down
> the post housing?
> I am posting a picture here. I assume this is my grease cap.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Na_wgHls_FKZ3TSl8GkxK7x5ObJPuvfU/view?usp=sharing
>
> Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an extension hose
> and proper fitting to extend this out?
> Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the scupper hose at
> least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by others.
>
> Sorry in advance, I feel stupid on this one. Is that cap supposed to open
> to get grease into it? Or am I supposed to unscrew it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ignorant as ever
>
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C 35 mk3
> Nyack NY
>
>
>
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Stus-List Rudder Squeeking C 35-3

2019-04-26 Thread Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List

Getting excited about getting back on the water.
but...

I have a dumb question, and
I see there are other posts about the rudder squeaking, some were thinking the 
same as was suggested to me locally, extend the fitting with a hose. 

Can I be confident that the squeaking issue is simply a grease problem?
Should I be concerned about stains that look like old grease dripped down the 
post housing?
I am posting a picture here. I assume this is my grease cap.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Na_wgHls_FKZ3TSl8GkxK7x5ObJPuvfU/view?usp=sharing
 


Does anyone know the fitting size and where I might get an extension hose and 
proper fitting to extend this out? 
Getting to the rudder post sucks. You have to take off the scupper hose at 
least, so extending this is a good idea as suggested by others.

Sorry in advance, I feel stupid on this one. Is that cap supposed to open to 
get grease into it? Or am I supposed to unscrew it?

Thanks

Ignorant as ever 

Matthew Schlanger
The Office
C 35 mk3
Nyack NY



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Re: Stus-List Weird rod

2019-04-26 Thread JP Mail via CnC-List



Sent from my iPhone
Yep, rod in front of rudder. I think it’s called the Rudder Rod.
J
> On Apr 26, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a metal rod in front of the rudder, which I believe is to help avoid 
> seaweed and other floating debris from fouling the rudder post.  Nothing at 
> all in front of the keel though.
> 
> Tom B
> 
> .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com 
> 
> 
> 
> At 09:00 AM 4/26/2019, you wrote:
> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:58:42 + (UTC)
>> From: johnr...@aol.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
>> Message-ID: <1965119471.1023889.1556294322...@mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the underside 
>> just ahead of the keel.? No one seems to know its purpose.
>> John McLaughlinC 29-2Falcon
> 
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Re: Stus-List SuperLube

2019-04-26 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

it is also recommended for lubricating the head pump

Marek

From: Dreuge via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 14:08
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dreuge
Subject: Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

I have been happy with SuperLube Synthetic grease.  Below is a quick link I 
found on Amazon.

I use Super Lube for many tasks.  In addition to lubricating the rudder, I use 
on winches (except the pawls), on O-rings, …, and some electrical terminals as 
it’s also a good dielectric grease.

I even know of a guy who uses it for chapped lips (and swears by it).  While it 
is listed as a food grade lubricate, I have not gone that far yet!

https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-41160-Synthetic-Translucent/dp/B0083R1FME/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Super+Lube=1556301173=gateway=8-2

-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

I am not a French speaker (at least, not a francophone), but from what I know, 
the name Beneteau (or rather, Bénéteau) came from the last name of the original 
founder/constructor/shipwright.

The “hunter” would be “chasseur”. If you want to stretch the similarities, 
“bonneteau” is French for a three-card game, but it has nothing to do with 
either Hunter or Beneteau.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 11:52
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton
Subject: Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it true 
that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)

Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI
USA02842

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260


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Stus-List Weird rod

2019-04-26 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List

I have a metal rod in front of the rudder, which 
I believe is to help avoid seaweed and other 
floating debris from fouling the rudder 
post.  Nothing at all in front of the keel though.


Tom B


.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com



At 09:00 AM 4/26/2019, you wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 15:58:42 + (UTC)
From: johnr...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
Message-ID: <1965119471.1023889.1556294322...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that 
protrudes from the underside just ahead of the 
keel.? No one seems to know its purpose.

John McLaughlinC 29-2Falcon



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Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering

2019-04-26 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List

I have been happy with SuperLube Synthetic grease.  Below is a quick link I 
found on Amazon.

I use Super Lube for many tasks.  In addition to lubricating the rudder, I use 
on winches (except the pawls), on O-rings, …, and some electrical terminals as 
it’s also a good dielectric grease.   

I even know of a guy who uses it for chapped lips (and swears by it).  While it 
is listed as a food grade lubricate, I have not gone that far yet!

https://www.amazon.com/Super-Lube-41160-Synthetic-Translucent/dp/B0083R1FME/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Super+Lube=1556301173=gateway=8-2

-
Paul E.
1981 C Landfall 38 
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Apr 26, 2019, at 11:18 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 09:15:09 -0400
> From: Camille Cloutier  >
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List question LF38 steering
> Message-ID:
>>
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> 
> Hi!!
> 
> Thank you for the quick and precise answer! It is very appreciated!
> 
> Last question: what king of grease do you us in the grease cup? White
> grease?
> 
> Have a good day!
> 
> Camille
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Re: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel

2019-04-26 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List

Same on my C, ahead of the rudder. Always assume it was for the same 
reason David gave.



Don Kern

Fireball C MK2

Bristol, RI



On 4/26/2019 12:04 PM, David Risch via CnC-List wrote:
I have one just head of the rudder...keeps lines from jamming in the 
space between hull and rudder.  Never saw one ahead of keel.


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*Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 11:58 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* johnr...@aol.com
*Subject:* Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel
All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the 
underside just ahead of the keel.  No one seems to know its purpose.


John McLaughlin
C 29-2
Falcon

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Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List


Al

The trip down the west coast would be fun.  Have 
you considered joining the Coho Hoho to San 
Francisco ( https://cohohoho.com/ ) and then down 
to the Baja Haha ( https://www.baja-haha.com/ )to 
Maxico?   I have heard that it's not uncommon for 
people to sail down to Mexico and then truck 
their boats back rather than try to sail since it 
usually means a stop in Hawaii or a daily beat.


 At 08:18 AM 4/26/2019, you wrote:
San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south 
america and/or to Hawaii would be fabulous but 
in reality its not likely to happen.


.¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
SV Alera
C 37+/40
Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
www.sv-alera.com


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Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?

2019-04-26 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List

Hi Jim,

When you say very uncomfortable, do you mean because your 35-3 would be
slamming into waves in rough conditions? I see that the PS 44 is about
twice the displacement of the 35, so that makes a big difference I guess.
We have some sailing to do before we'll attempt anything like that!

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 8:35 PM Jim Watts via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I think our boat could easily sail to Hawaii and back in reasonable
> conditions, not that anyone can ever count on that. I'm sure we would
> survive, although it might be very uncomfortable, in bad weather. I sailed
> down the west coast from Friday Harbor to San Francisco on a Pacific
> Seacraft 44, and I was happy to be in that boat. Pretty breezy, steady 58
> knots gusting to 63 for a bit,  5 1/2 days overall, and when it eased off
> to 25 it was nice and calm. Lee Youngblood was there, it was good times.
>
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 10:08, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The 25 has a deck stepped mast, so the only water entry is around deck
>> mounted hardware, port seals, or if the cockpit scuppers get clogged with
>> pine straw (don’t ask) and water floods over the lip of the companionway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Water seems to come down the mast in my 38 internally, as with yours. I
>> always presumed it gets in through the sheaves at the masthead and the
>> carious apertures where lines go through the sides of the mast. On my  38
>> the mast sits in an aluminum shoe at the level of the cabin sole, so I can
>> watch the water come out the bottom of the mast and drip through a hole in
>> the step into the bilge.
>>
>>
>>
>> And yes it does rain in North Carolina… a lot at times!
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David
>> Knecht via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:50 AM
>> *To:* CnC CnC discussion list 
>> *Cc:* David Knecht 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?
>>
>>
>>
>> As to Rick’s comments about wet boats- my boat gets a significant amount
>> of water in the bilge and it appears to primarily come from the mast.
>> During dry spells the bilge is dry and water always increases significantly
>> after a rain.  We have discussed this before, but from Rick’s comments,
>> there must be some difference in the mast of the 25 vs. other masts (or
>> else it never rains in North Carolina).  Has anyone tracked down the entry
>> point of water into the mast and has anyone found a way of reducing it?  I
>> know on my boat it must be internal because the mast below is not wet.
>> However, I cannot see the mast bottom to watch in a rain without pulling up
>> the cabin sole so have not done that to confirm.  Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> S/V Aries
>>
>> 1990 C 34+
>>
>> New London, CT
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?

2019-04-26 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List

Thanks, Gary, for your thoughts. Having spent so long looking, I have
become more fixated on finding the right boat, but until we get some real
experience, we won't know what that boat is. As much as I dread the
possibility of selling her in a few years and beginning another search, I
can't see any way to avoid it. Even if we had $100K to spend, there is no
guarantee of finding the right boat for both local cruising, and going to
the South Pacific some day. We're probably going to proceed, unless
something serious comes up on the haul out, which doesn't seem likely.
Backing out at this point would likely mean not getting a boat in time for
our planned trip in June, or having to make a rushed decision on another
boat. Getting the 10K boat will do the job for a season, but I just know
that I'll still be looking at other boats, and I'd like to give that a rest
for a while. I'm hoping to go out tomorrow in some decent winds for a final
trial, since we didn't get much wind the first time. I plan to go below
while under sail, hopefully with a bit of wave height, to see what kind of
movement and strange noises I hear from the hull and bulkheads. I still
have some concerns over the loose bulkhead to cabin top connection (they
just seem to loosely fit in the cabin top liner groove), so I want to see
how much movement is there.

The only comparable boat is a Niagara 35 ($25K) which is even better
equipped - radar, windvane, propane hot water. It's a boat well known for
offshore passage making, and I like the deeper bilge and heavier build,
while it still rates well under PHRF (159) so should be decent for light
air. But it has soggy decks are per past survey, and a cored hull. Oh, and
there are two San Juan 34/Crown 34s for $18 & 25K, which are closer to a
C in build and performance.

I'm hoping for a good sail tomorrow, and to not find anything more that is
discouraging, so we can just get on with sailing, and learning to love our
new boat!

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:19 AM Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We have owned our 30-1 for 25 years now, and, as our sailing dreams have
> changed, it still seems to answer the need. A couple more feet would not be
> a bad thing. A divorce in everything but boat ownership and the ex-Admiral
> still drives “her boat” with her new husband and some of the old crew on
> Wednesday nights and I drive “mine” at other times, do a little cruising
> and some weekend racing.
>
>
>
> I’ve been watching your thought process with interest. I think, if you are
> comfortable with the concept of the 35II, I don’t see as much downside as
> others seem to see. It is a very good, stout, well sailing boat with some
> extras – maybe too many.
>
>
>
> I would think that the engine issue with its complications may be a
> turn-off for many, but I don’t see why, with your skills, that a couple
> days stripping the extras out (water maker, extra batteries, and other
> items) you could get it down to a ‘normal’ boat. Then you have a garage
> full of stuff which may be handy in the future. When our hot water heater
> rusted into a pile, it came out, as we found our cruising to various places
> with marinas was more to our liking than camping out. You don’t know right
> now what you may end up doing with the boat in the future. Long distance
> cruising? Offshore? I would think that you need to spend some time
> developing your sailing skills and interests, then you can do more
> intelligent planning for future endeavors.
>
>
>
> Just a contrary opinion.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Shawn
> Wright via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:38 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Shawn Wright 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting about the 30-1 setup for
> offshore. There is one in Victoria selling for $55K (for almost a year now)
> that the owner put over 50K into, but never left due to health issues.
>
> re: the hull-deck joint. This is one reason I was looking at Ericsons for
> months, as their glassed over joint is said to be very strong and leakproof
> (outward facing flange, with inside glassed over). I was hoping to take
> this 35 into some big waves to test the joint for leakage, but the owner
> wasn't game for it. There is a hose at the slip, so I might try spraying it
> if I get a chance.
>
>
>
> Still pondering things tonight. Thanks everyone!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:03 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting discussion - thanks Shawn for launching it.
>
>
>
> Last October at Emerald Bay, Catalina Island I moored a chartered Catalina
> 390 next to C 30 MK I hull #493, “Katherine Patricia,” hailing port
> Berkeley, CA.  I spoke with her owner Alexander Simpson, who is not on this
> mail list as far as I know, but is on the C owners’ Facebook group.  He
> said he’d sailed her from the West Coast to Hawaii and back.  We

Re: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel

2019-04-26 Thread David Risch via CnC-List

I have one just head of the rudder...keeps lines from jamming in the space 
between hull and rudder.  Never saw one ahead of keel.


David F. Risch, J. D.

Gulf Stream Associates, LLC

(401) 419-4650


From: CnC-List  on behalf of John McLaughlin via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 11:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: johnr...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel

All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the underside 
just ahead of the keel.  No one seems to know its purpose.

John McLaughlin
C 29-2
Falcon
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Stus-List Metal Rod Forward of Keel

2019-04-26 Thread John McLaughlin via CnC-List

All the C's in our yard have a metal rod that protrudes from the underside 
just ahead of the keel.  No one seems to know its purpose.
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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List

I'm just entering Chesapeake Bay on my Baltic 47 (Hey, the first Baltics were 
C and I still love my old 40). I've just done 4000 miles on her since I left 
Newport in November. Her offshore chops are what I expected from a boat of this 
quality and as a bonus I've had some terrific, fun sailing. And that's what I 
go off for in the boat. I love sailing! That's why I got a C all those years 
ago. The boats perform beautifully and pay back with joy every penny and hour 
spent on maintenance. 
Speaking of quality, that was the other reason I had for choosing a C Our 
boats are very well built. So to get back to the original question, can you 
take a C offshore successfully? My answer is yes, very definitely! And you'll 
have more fun actually sailing your boat than most out there with you. 
Remember, there are people out there circumnavigating on Beneteaus and 
Catalinas and doing perfectly well.
By the way, perhaps a French speaker out there (Bruno?) can tell me, is it true 
that "Beneteau" is French for "Hunter?" :)

Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA02842

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> On Apr 26, 2019, at 11:24, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> John drove my boat through Hurricane Bob when it was new.  It was named 
> Northern Lights.  He has written about the experience in a couple of his 
> books. He's a great storyteller and a great guy.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I also enjoy the Kretschmer books and his lessons learned, though I'm glad 
>> not to be onboard during his "adventures". IIRC, He prefers more comfortable 
>> performance cruisers like Hylas boats or his Skye 47.
>> 
>> Was surprised to see your circumnavigator is using a Najad, not a C, 
>> though a very well equipped choice. 
>> 
>> CS
>>> On April 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Allan Hester via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight.
>>> 
>>> I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John Kretschmer 
>>> which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C 35 Mk 3 offshore 
>>> is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to
>>> San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to Hawaii 
>>> would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen.
>>> 
>>> Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a tall 
>>> order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of the most 
>>> beautiful cruising areas in the world.
>>> From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and Alaska 
>>> I think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for decades. 
>>> 
>>> I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you are 
>>> sailing now. Not where you think you will be sailing in the future."
>>> Very well said Josh.
>>> 
>>> I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal. Its a 
>>> fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a few jerry 
>>> jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
>>> She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and other 
>>> creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be comfortable at 
>>> anchor. At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in 
>>> a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of running a 
>>> 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The C 35 works for 
>>> me. 
>>> 
>>> On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named Jeanne 
>>> Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation. She 
>>> completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the oldest 
>>> female to have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is expected to 
>>> complete her journey in early July. She maintains an excellent blog and 
>>> does interviews while at sea. She is currently south of Australia and 
>>> 18,000 NM into her trip. If interested her website and blog are here:
>>> 
>>> https://svnereida.com/
>>> 
>>> Al H.
>>> C 35 Mk 3 
>>> Pacific Ranger
>>> Vancouver, BC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Stus-List Was Offshore boat, now Good Sailing Books

2019-04-26 Thread Thomas Delaney via CnC-List

Hi Al,

I too have enjoyed Kretschmer's books. On his recommendation, and to
your point about sailing in Puget Sound, have you read PASSAGE TO
JUNEAU by Jonathan Raban? Simply sublime. READY ABOUT by G. Peabody
Gardner was another great read focusing on Maine and Nova Scotia.

Anyone else have any must-read sailing book suggestions?

Thanks,
Tom

--
Snow Goose
35-1
City Island, NY

-- Forwarded message --
From: Allan Hester 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 14:34:09 +
Subject: Stus-List Offshore boat



A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight.

I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John
Kretschmer which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C
35 Mk 3 offshore is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to
San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to
Hawaii would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen.

Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a
tall order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of
the most beautiful cruising areas in the world.
>From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and Alaska I 
>think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for decades.

I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you
are sailing now.  Not where you think you will be sailing in the
future."
Very well said Josh.

I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal.
Its a fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a
few jerry jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and
other creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be
comfortable at anchor. At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in
a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of
running a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The
C 35 works for me.

On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named
Jeanne Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation.
She completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the
oldest female to have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is
expected to complete her journey in early July. She maintains an
excellent blog and does interviews while at sea. She is currently
south of Australia and 18,000 NM into her trip. If interested her
website and blog are here:

https://svnereida.com/

Al H.
C 35 Mk 3
Pacific Ranger
Vancouver, BC

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Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

2019-04-26 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List

John drove my boat through Hurricane Bob when it was new.  It was named
Northern Lights.  He has written about the experience in a couple of his
books. He's a great storyteller and a great guy.

Joel


On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I also enjoy the Kretschmer books and his lessons learned, though I'm glad
> not to be onboard during his "adventures". IIRC, He prefers more
> comfortable performance cruisers like Hylas boats or his Skye 47.
>
> Was surprised to see your circumnavigator is using a Najad, not a C,
> though a very well equipped choice.
>
> CS
>
> On April 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Allan Hester via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight.
>
> I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John Kretschmer
> which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C 35 Mk 3 offshore
> is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to
> San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to Hawaii
> would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen.
>
> Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a tall
> order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of the most
> beautiful cruising areas in the world.
> From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and
> Alaska I think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for
> decades.
>
> I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you are
> sailing now. Not where you think you will be sailing in the future."
> Very well said Josh.
>
> I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal. Its a
> fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a few jerry
> jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
> She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and other
> creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be comfortable at
> anchor. At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in
> a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of running
> a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The C 35 works
> for me.
>
> On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named Jeanne
> Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation. She
> completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the oldest
> female to have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is expected to
> complete her journey in early July. She maintains an excellent blog and
> does interviews while at sea. She is currently south of Australia and
> 18,000 NM into her trip. If interested her website and blog are here:
>
> https://svnereida.com/
>
> Al H.
> C 35 Mk 3
> Pacific Ranger
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?

2019-04-26 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List

We have owned our 30-1 for 25 years now, and, as our sailing dreams have 
changed, it still seems to answer the need. A couple more feet would not be a 
bad thing. A divorce in everything but boat ownership and the ex-Admiral still 
drives “her boat” with her new husband and some of the old crew on Wednesday 
nights and I drive “mine” at other times, do a little cruising and some weekend 
racing. 

 

I’ve been watching your thought process with interest. I think, if you are 
comfortable with the concept of the 35II, I don’t see as much downside as 
others seem to see. It is a very good, stout, well sailing boat with some 
extras – maybe too many.

 

I would think that the engine issue with its complications may be a turn-off 
for many, but I don’t see why, with your skills, that a couple days stripping 
the extras out (water maker, extra batteries, and other items) you could get it 
down to a ‘normal’ boat. Then you have a garage full of stuff which may be 
handy in the future. When our hot water heater rusted into a pile, it came out, 
as we found our cruising to various places with marinas was more to our liking 
than camping out. You don’t know right now what you may end up doing with the 
boat in the future. Long distance cruising? Offshore? I would think that you 
need to spend some time developing your sailing skills and interests, then you 
can do more intelligent planning for future endeavors.

 

Just a contrary opinion.

Gary 

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Shawn Wright via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:38 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Shawn Wright 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C as offshore boat?

 

Thanks for all the great replies. Interesting about the 30-1 setup for 
offshore. There is one in Victoria selling for $55K (for almost a year now) 
that the owner put over 50K into, but never left due to health issues. 

re: the hull-deck joint. This is one reason I was looking at Ericsons for 
months, as their glassed over joint is said to be very strong and leakproof 
(outward facing flange, with inside glassed over). I was hoping to take this 35 
into some big waves to test the joint for leakage, but the owner wasn't game 
for it. There is a hose at the slip, so I might try spraying it if I get a 
chance.

 

Still pondering things tonight. Thanks everyone!

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:03 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Interesting discussion - thanks Shawn for launching it.

 

Last October at Emerald Bay, Catalina Island I moored a chartered Catalina 390 
next to C 30 MK I hull #493, “Katherine Patricia,” hailing port Berkeley, CA. 
 I spoke with her owner Alexander Simpson, who is not on this mail list as far 
as I know, but is on the C owners’ Facebook group.  He said he’d sailed her 
from the West Coast to Hawaii and back.  We didn’t discuss what kind of 
conditions he encountered.  But he did say that in preparation he’d resealed 
the deck / hull joint (with 5200, which made me wonder if that’s the right 
material for that job).  His boat was also set up with a self-steering wind 
vane and an asymmetrical spinnaker.

 

I’ve also seen a couple 35-40’ C in marinas at Harbor Island, San Diego, but 
have no idea if or where those boats have sailed.  Maybe down Mexico way.

 

As for Grenadine, the worst conditions I’ve been in were 48mph gusts at 
Chatfield Reservoir. We saw it coming and doused the headsail before getting 
hit, but had to motor head-to-wind into the shadow of the dam to douse the main 
safely, then motored to the marina and took two tries to get into the slip.  
Sea state is not that big an issue on my lake.  So all that doesn’t really 
apply to your question.  But having said that, I chartered a Bali 4.5 cat in 
the BVI a few weeks ago.  We had some 25kt days, with 6’ wind waves, and 
another day with a 5’ east swell, and I would have loved to sail Grenadine down 
there.  I’m sure she would have handled it just fine, and loved it.  Didn’t 
happen to see any C on that trip, and not for lack of looking.

 

Josh I’d be interested in that article you referred to, if you can find it.

 

Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO





On Apr 24, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

1I saw a C in Uruguay.  It's hailing port was in Delaware.  So there is that.

 

My experience and my the reports from others is that C are generally well 
built, strong boats.  That being said, "Are the good blue water boats?"  I 
would suggest no.  They typically have less tankage than other similar sized 
boats.  They often have fin keels that create a flat spot forward of the keel.  
This can result in a pretty good pounding with the right wave height and 
frequency.  Most of them were catering to the racer-cruiser an as a result tend 
to carry a bit more sail for the racer but as a cruiser often had shorter than 
appropriate keels.  

 

Many people have blue

Re: Stus-List Offshore boat

I also enjoy the Kretschmer books and his lessons learned, though I'm glad not 
to be onboard during his "adventures". IIRC, He prefers more comfortable 
performance cruisers like Hylas boats or his Skye 47.

Was surprised to see your circumnavigator is using a Najad, not a C, though a 
very well equipped choice.

CS

> On April 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Allan Hester via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A very interesting thread with some excellent comments and insight.
> 
> I enjoy reading offshore cruising books by such people as John Kretschmer 
> which stir my imagination, so the thought of taking my C 35 Mk 3 offshore 
> is in the back of my mind. A cruise down the coast to
> San Francisco, San Diego and eventually to south america and/or to Hawaii 
> would be fabulous but in reality its not likely to happen.
> 
> Preparing the boat and learning all the necessary skills would be a tall 
> order. In the meantime I would be missing out on cruising one of the most 
> beautiful cruising areas in the world.
> From Puget Sound to the BC Caost, west coast of Vancouver island and 
> Alaska I think I will have enough to keep me busy and interested for decades.
> 
> I like what Josh had to say, "I say buy the boat that fits where you are 
> sailing now. Not where you think you will be sailing in the future."
> Very well said Josh.
> 
> I agree with that sentiment. For me and my needs a C 35 is ideal. Its a 
> fine sailing boat, she carries 80 US gallons of water and with a few jerry 
> jugs I can easily carry 40 gallons of fuel.
> She is outfitted with solar panels, Espar heater, sound sytem and other 
> creature comforts to extend the sailing season and be comfortable at anchor. 
> At 35 feet I am more likely to find a slip in
> a marina during peak season than a larger vessel and the costs of running 
> a 35 foot boat are considerably less than a larger boat. The C 35 works for 
> me.
> 
> On a related side note there is a 76 year young British woman named 
> Jeanne Socrates currently on her 2nd solo, non-stop circumnavigation. She 
> completed her 1st at the age of 70 and holds the record as the oldest female 
> to have done so. She hails from Victoria, BC and is expected to complete her 
> journey in early July. She maintains an excellent blog and does interviews 
> while at sea. She is currently south of Australia and 18,000 NM into her 
> trip. If interested her website and blog are here:
> 
> https://svnereida.com/
> 
> Al H.
> C 35 Mk 3
> Pacific Ranger
> Vancouver, BC
> 
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