Re: [Fwd: [OT] Top 10 things to do in Stuttgart]

2005-07-15 Thread Erik Abele
On 15.07.2005, at 17:30, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: According to Upayavira: Just in case anyone has time on their hands at Stuttgart, this might be interesting for you. Can someone post this to the wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ please? :-) I've added it to

Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-04-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26.04.2005, at 19:48, Shane Curcuru wrote: Here's a brilliant idea! I'd love to find a wiki that also supports updates via some sort of geek-oriented interface, like CVS or SVN. That way, we could please both the millions of folks who like using the web - and can usually figure out how to

Fwd: Apache / mail-archive.com

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Abele
This forum is probably more applicable for these kinds of offers: Begin forwarded message: From: Jeff Breidenbach jeff (at) jab.org Date: 16. Dezember 2004 09:16:49 MEZ Subject: Apache / mail-archive.com ... Also I noticed Apache lists are using our service pretty heavily. That's great - please

Re: Is ASL2.0 not GPL-compatible ??

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Abele
On 21.12.2004, at 21:15, robert burrell donkin wrote: by this time next year, software patent violations are most likely to be enforceable by criminal sanction. any company wanted to maliciously damage an open source project would only have to target individual european release managers using

Re: Do we have a jobs list?

2004-07-06 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.07.2004, at 21:03, Brian Behlendorf wrote: We don't appear to, but I would be +1 on setting something like this up. Freebsd.org has one, not sure who else might. mod_perl has one: http://perl.apache.org/jobs/jobs.html Though I suppose an ASF-wide list would be a GoodThing (TM)... Cheers,

Re: Renaming package names

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Abele
On 11.03.2004, at 15:36, Ceki Gülcü wrote: It appears that the product in question includes a copy of the Apache license in their documentation. Does this give them the right to rename packages an appropriate the software? My understanding is that the Apache license allows this. Yes, together with

Re: Farewell to Martin Pöschl

2004-02-12 Thread Erik Abele
On 11.02.2004, at 04:10, Daniel L. Rall wrote: With great sadness, I must report the staggering loss of our good friend and colleague, Martin Pöschl [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Details are sketchy, but it's been confirmed that Martin passed away on January 29th, 2004. Martin lived in Vienna, Austria. I'm

Re: ApacheCon logo: a little less busy

2003-10-30 Thread Erik Abele
On 30/10/2003, at 09:44, Andreas Hartmann wrote: And here is yet another version. http://www.cocooncenter.org/apache/coins-04.png -- Andreas Great, great, great! I'd really like to see Fitz' blackjack theme on the breast (small) and one of the bandit+coins designs on the back (biiig). Though, I

Re: RfP: Apache T-Shirt Logo Contest

2003-10-28 Thread Erik Abele
On 29/10/2003, at 12:35, Andreas Hartmann wrote: Hi Apache community, here are two drafts of a logo: http://www.cocooncenter.org/apache/apache-foundation.png http://www.cocooncenter.org/apache/apachecon.png Hmmm, there is *a* feather but not *the* feather! *bummer* ;-0 Cheers, Erik

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
On 20/10/2003, at 01:40, Noel J. Bergman wrote: The original intention of the newsletter was Newsletter will be one of the *glue* of the communities in the ASF umbrella ... It seems that the newsletter itself is going to the contrary. The newsletter is doing that job. All that was asked is that

Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
As the discussion now shows *nobody* is in favour of Tetsuyas resignation and *everybody* appreciate[sd] his efforts but it also seems that there exist some basic misunderstandings, at least I've lost the point somewhere last night... On 20/10/2003, at 10:44, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: And

Re: Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
On 20/10/2003, at 04:43, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Well, the threads on this and other similar topics showed that the majority of our community has a completely different point of view when it comes to information reception. Compared to whom? To you, me or Tetsuyo? EVERYBODY HAS HIS/HER OWN

Re: Information channels, Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Abele
On 20/10/2003, at 04:44, Rob Oxspring wrote: we know that everybody has his/her own preferences Again I would have thought that most of us are grown up enough to realise that. Therefore I wrote '... we [the ASF community] know ...' :) so why don't we just go with a pull-model instead of pushing

FYI: Verisign SiteFinder - Episode 2

2003-10-16 Thread Erik Abele
Looks like Verisign plans to revive its SiteFinder 'service': http://news.com.com/2100-1038_3-5092133.html Bah. Cheers, Erik Btw, the complete presentation given by Verisign at the ICANN SECSAC meeting on 15th Oct. is available here: http://www.icann.org/presentations/turner-secsac-dc-15oct03.ppt

Re: Apache Web Of Trust, was Re: [FYI] Apache Agora 1.2

2003-10-14 Thread Erik Abele
On 13/10/2003, at 01:47, Shane Curcuru wrote: ... Also I know Ben Laurie has other nifty key management/who knows who tools just to throw in a URL for KeyMan: http://keyman.aldigital.co.uk/ there's even a doc with 'Instructions for ASF Keysigning': http://keyman.aldigital.co.uk/asf.html Wiki has

Re: EU Parliament Approves Software Patents

2003-09-24 Thread Erik Abele
On 24/09/2003, at 05:03, Steven Noels wrote: Erik Abele wrote: arghhh, without comments: 'EU Parliament Approves Software Patents' http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/24/ 1253227.shtml?tid=155tid=185tid=99 Don't panic: No panic involved ;) just passing on a pointer, so that everybody can form

Fwd: [ANN] Jakarta Turbine 2.3 released (fwd)

2003-09-08 Thread Erik Abele
forwared without comment from board@, as a follow-up on the recent discussion about announce@ Cheers, Erik Begin forwarded message: Von: Christopher A Bongaarts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Do, 4. Sep 2003 19:25:52 Europe/Berlin An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [ANN] Jakarta Turbine 2.3 released

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Abele
On 26/08/2003, at 07:44, Danny Angus wrote: If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. d. +1 and +1! just FYI: the ISOC members are currently discussing the same issues but it's probably also

annou...@apache.org, was Re: Newsletter.

2003-08-17 Thread Erik Abele
On 16/08/2003, at 11:58, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Joshua Slive wrote: When I originally proposed the announce@apache.org list, the purpose was this: Each project would send their announcements to their own list (eg. announce@httpd.apache.org) AND send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That way people

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Erik Abele
On 11/07/2003, at 05:33, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the non-so-project stuff. 2) the newsletter is

Re: archives?

2003-07-03 Thread Erik Abele
On 03/07/2003, at 06:08, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Is this list archived? There are archives at MARC and gmane.org And the ASF archives site: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ uuups, yes. After all the 'eyebrowse down' mails, coming up on infrastructure every now and then, I didn't even think

Meeting @ LinuxTag, KA, Germany

2003-06-22 Thread Erik Abele
[I'm crossposting this to community@ and party@ to catch some more eyes; please reply on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, some time ago we already had a discussion about a possible ASF meeting here in Germany. We also started to collect the locations of the interested people (see

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2003-04-06 Thread Erik Abele
...so that gmane.org finally picks up the list... Cheers, Erik - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: apache.org vs. mozilla.org

2003-04-05 Thread Erik Abele
Danny Angus wrote: Steffano, You asked.. Now, I'm asking: what if the ASF provides its own news server snip Of course, it should be transparent and allow to redirect back a newsgroup post to the mail list I seem to remember Pier trying this with his own equipment. I believe that it was such a

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-03 Thread Erik Abele
Rich Bowen wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: I have often thought it would be very very nice if the source files could reference the license, and tell you where to get it, rather than including the full text. This hugely increases the size of everything, and provides no real benefit. If

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-03 Thread Erik Abele
Rich Bowen wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Erik Abele wrote: so we get 808,9kb for the source files plus the license (22998/1024=22,5kb) itself: ~ 831,4kb hehe, really cute compared to 6,7M :- That's not nearly as fun! Anyway, 831kb are also way to much for just the license text, but 6,7mb would

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread Erik Abele
Dion, can you please use the newly created [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (thanks, Sam) for this sort of topics? Thanks and cheers, Erik Sam Ruby wrote: I'm in a just do it kind of mood. I just created a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Noel is the initial moderator. If/when there is an

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Erik Abele
As far as I understand it, the license itself isn't compatible to be referenced from another file. It's quite 'direct' and always relates to the document it is in. IANAL but I think we would need another phrase in the license wich states something like the following: This license applies to

Re: committers / project list

2003-02-20 Thread Erik Abele
Ask Bjoern Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated the committers / projects list: http://cvs.apache.org/~ask/ http://cvs.apache.org/~ask/people.html http://cvs.apache.org/~ask/committers.html - ask great, but wouldn't it make more sense to update this info regularly (weekly,

Re: db.apache.org url is missing

2003-02-18 Thread Erik Abele
robert burrell donkin wrote: (i'm not really sure where comments about the main foundation site should be posted or how to submit patches. hopefully someone will correct me if this isn't the right place.) Since site-dev@ was removed, infrastructure@ is the place to go. Attached also the missing

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Abele
robert burrell donkin wrote: On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:09 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: so, I wonder, should I go down the path of 'incubation'?, should I move it under the committers/ CVS? or in the community CVS? move it on sourceforge? should we clutter this mail list

Re: Where to place Agora?

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Abele
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: personally, i think that if more than about three hands go up on this list that would be a sufficient nuclear community for agora to go directly into the commons. fewer than three people plus stefano, and i think it should go the the incubator. mho. ahh,

Re: Verifying links

2003-02-02 Thread Erik Abele
Thanks for the reminder to Eric Raymond's changes :) Just grep'ed httpd-*, site, site-tools, apr-*, incubator-*, asf-site, commons-* and found only 3 incorrect links. In any event, I'm wondering about the systematic issue. Do you think about a general link-checker installed on daedalus? Hmmm, is

Re: Verifying links

2003-02-02 Thread Erik Abele
of the Jakarta world :-( Something like one of those could be batched from time to time, and the report mailed to the appropriate list. As said above, would be handy to have such a tool; just go for it ;-) cheers, Erik --- Noel -Original Message- From: Erik Abele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Open community (was ... secret discussions ...)

2003-01-28 Thread Erik Abele
Hi Joshua, in case you are interested in the vote, see below... As far as I can recall the list was pretty busy at this time and some people worried about the signal-to-noise ratio while thinking about 650 Apache fellows plus users or as you put it having a mechanism to quite people who make

Re: Weblogs and Obstructionism WAS: Re: weblogs on apache.org

2003-01-26 Thread Erik Abele
Rich Bowen wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: For those of us that are not on infrastructure@, what's the summary thus far? Is it just the obvious which can be gleaned from the above, ie Andy proposed blog software installed on an apache.org machine and someone -1'ed it, or was it

Re: [proposal] creation of communitity.apache.org

2002-11-27 Thread Erik Abele
I'm also +1 on community.apache.org and the redirects, but I'm quite unsure if we really should place such preconditions on all the committers. We certainly have to establish some basic 'rules' or may be only strong suggestions as Andy stated. however, IMO the requirements should be preferably

Re: Apache People in Germany? (was: RE: @apache web pages)

2002-11-13 Thread Erik Abele
Hi Henning, yeah, Munich or any other big city in the southern german area would be great. btw, what about a 'german division meeting'. I'm from Aalen (100km east of Stuttgart, 200km north of Munich) and would like to meet some other Apache fellows from germany...perhaps we can arrange

Re: [VOTE] Openness

2002-10-30 Thread Erik Abele
VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read this mail list thru a web archive? [ ] +1 yes, let's make it readable [ ] 0 don't know/don't care [X] -1 no, let's keep it private - o - VOTE 2: would you like to make it possible

Re: Man, it's quiet here

2002-10-26 Thread Erik Abele
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: * On 2002-10-25 at 22:53, Erik Abele [EMAIL PROTECTED] excited the electrons to say: Perhaps we should propose another posting on the different developer-/committer-lists? It seems that Greg's and Stefano's postings did not really reach all the committers out

Re: Man, it's quiet here

2002-10-25 Thread Erik Abele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Erik Abele wrote: From a moderators POV I can say, that mostly the people which are subscribed to reorg@ have also joined [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps we should propose another posting on the different developer-/committer-lists? It seems that Greg's