On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 19:08 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
> On 1/5/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i'm not sure that i'll find the time for an article but - if there
> > unfortunately isn't anyone out there with a literary itch to scratch - i
> > will create a basic document ove
On 1/5/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm not sure that i'll find the time for an article but - if there
> unfortunately isn't anyone out there with a literary itch to scratch - i
> will create a basic document over in apache dev so that people can build
> it up. there's a b
On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 16:05 -0800, Will Glass-Husain wrote:
> I've been enjoying reading this discussion. I think many of us have
> struggled with similar issues in the mailing lists.
>
> If someone was interesting in writing an essay that summarized and quoted
> some of the key insights from thi
On 1/3/06, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been enjoying reading this discussion. I think many of us have
> struggled with similar issues in the mailing lists.
>
> If someone was interesting in writing an essay that summarized and quoted
> some of the key insights from this thr
Wiki.
Best, WILL
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From: "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: At what point do you unsubscribe/deny a misbehaving user?
+1 We need to document this :)
tha
+1 We need to document this :)
thanks
-- dims
On 1/1/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/20/05, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think potentially *anything* could feed a troll, so then the goal is
> > how to minimize troll effects on the community. I really lik
On 12/20/05, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think potentially *anything* could feed a troll, so then the goal is
> how to minimize troll effects on the community. I really like Mark's
> Gandhi approach for setting FUD straight, and I think the humor of your
> approach definitely me
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yo
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yours but one of our users
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 09:07 -0800, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> robert burrell donkin wrote:
> I'll look at the jakarta lists for how the OT FUD was handled.
LOL!
i hope you're going to be looking for anti-patterns :)
IIRC jakarta didn't exactly have a good record for avoiding flamewars.
back in
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>>what thickness of skin should be required of participants on our lists?
>
>>Thick enough to take to criticism, whether it be right or wrong, and
>>to respond in a positive manner.
>>
>>Personal attacks of any form or degree a
El sáb, 17-12-2005 a las 09:14 -0800, Jean T. Anderson escribió:
> Mark Thomas wrote:
> > Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> >
> >>I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
> >>that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
> >>embark on a path that co
Mark Thomas wrote:
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yours but one of our users went o
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> I think ignoring is an excellent tactic for a developer's list. I worry
> that isn't strong enough for a user's list, but I also wouldn't want to
> embark on a path that could backfire.
Not exactly the same situation as yours but one of our users went off
on one a few mon
robert burrell donkin wrote:
...
i think perhaps that this is an issues of strategic aims verses
effective tactics. a good atmosphere on the user list is vital and IMO
jean is right to be concerned that those who could be contributing to
the community are being scared away by the troll.
This
Mark Thomas wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > what thickness of skin should be required of participants on our lists?
> Thick enough to take to criticism, whether it be right or wrong, and
> to respond in a positive manner.
> Personal attacks of any form or degree are not acceptable behaviour
On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 19:22 -0800, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> >> For crying out loud, would you please supply links to the exact posts
> >> you consider to be in poor taste and the person's name? I just
> >> wasted
> >> 10 minutes trying to fo
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who
delights in belittling other posters on the list. The topic was
raised on women@ (see the thread starting with http://mail-
archi
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> We may disagree as his clueful:clueless ratio, but we can agree that he is
> just snarky. But on a related note, what thickness of skin should be
> required of participants on our lists?
Thick enough to take to criticism, whether it be right or wrong, and
to respond in a
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
Well, yes, but what I asked for was the posts that you consider to be
in poor taste, not responses to those posts. But now that I know who
you are talking about I could use the view-by-author and see that this
person is better than the typical troll with diarrhea of the f
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
Below are links to public responses to some of his posts (which are numerous
enough that they alone would be frustrating to wade through):
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user/200508.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
http://mail-archives.a
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
For crying out loud, would you please supply links to the exact posts
you consider to be in poor taste and the person's name? I just wasted
10 minutes trying to follow the bread crumbs. You have
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> The answer is to ask your community not to feed the troll when it
> gets grumpy and just ignore him
> When his presence is worse than his absence, you can deny him, but
> it is better to ask everyone in the community to simply shun him.
Perhaps our netiquette FAQ should
On Dec 16, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
For crying out loud, would you please supply links to the exact posts
you consider to be in poor taste and the person's name? I just
wasted
10 minutes trying to follow the bread crumbs. You have to make it
easier on reviewers -- everyone s
Jean,
> The name at the core is Michael Segel.
Ah, then people can go to mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-user
and view sorted by author. Better still would be to know which ones are
being considered offensive.
I reviewed a dozen or so of his posts, and I saw a few snarky comments, bu
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who delights
in belittling other posters on the list. The topic was raised on
women@ (see the thread starting with http://mail-
archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/w
On Dec 16, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who
delights in belittling other posters on the list. The topic was
raised on women@ (see the thread starting with http://mail-
archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-women/200511.mbox/%3c
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> derby-user@db.apache.org has been grappling with someone who delights in
> belittling other posters on the list.
> The topic was raised on women@ (see the thread starting with
>
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-women/200511.mbox/%3c4371355F.9
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