Re: Open Moko compatibility on the hardware

2008-12-18 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
And if done with openembeded/bitbake is only matter or changing the local.conf file 2008/12/18 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:11:36 -0800 Masoom Alam masoom.a...@gmail.com wrote: Can any body highlight that what are the requirements for openmoko software stack regarding

[Android] Can't power off

2008-12-18 Thread Radek Polak
Hi, while playing with android i realized that i can't power off the phone. I was trying turing off either from menu (this just shows progress dialog, that never ends) or via reboot -p command from adb shell (seems to do nothing). Rebooting from abd shell via reboot command works fine. I had

Re: Error_make_qemu

2008-12-18 Thread Boštjan Jerko
On 18.12.2008, at 7:49, imran ali wrote: hello any body know the solution of this problem. while i am installing Qemu on ubuntu 8.04 i am getting below erro. You should change download_dir variable in env file (located under openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko. And after that

Re: [Any distro?] Funny, very old SIM card not detected

2008-12-18 Thread Abelenda
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:40:17 +0100 Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote: Hi, could it be that this is an old 5V SIM card? If I'm not mistaken, those do not work with FR; only 3V and 1.8V (like in most recent phones). As I said in my first mail, I use the freerunner as a daily phone with

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 18.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Will Siddall: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler justynbutler+openm...@googlemail.com wrote: Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all! We perhaps will be most surprised how much a 3G modem will cost... I have to agree with

[debian] Debian on FR wiki suggestion

2008-12-18 Thread Michele Renda
Hello to all I am working on a cleaning activities on Debian on FR wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian I'd like to receive your segnalation about errors or improvement that can be done. Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:46:54 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org babbled: Am 18.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Will Siddall: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler justynbutler+openm...@googlemail.com wrote: Replace the mc75i with a 3.5G modem! Go on, surprise us all!

[QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
I adjust the volume on QTExt 4.4.2 using alsamixer and then i'd like to store its state, but the command alsactl -f path_to_file.state store doesn't seem to work and, after that i make or receive a call, the state returns to default! How can i save the alsa state permanently? Giorgio -- Be

Re: [QTExtended] duplicated sms

2008-12-18 Thread Dale Maggee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've done a fair bit of searching lately and I've not found anything. If you find something, please let me know! I also get it with incoming phone calls (not all the time, but often) Lorn from Trolltech said recently that we can expect a new version

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Pander
How is UMTS support on GTA03 (read support in Japan)? On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:02, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:46:54 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org babbled: Am 18.12.2008 um 00:12 schrieb Will Siddall: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Justyn Butler

Dual boot strange problem

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
I have installed QTExtended 4.4.2 on NAND flash and SHR on the SD and i'm experiencing strange boot problems. If i start qtext everything is fine and the system boots normally. Same thing if after that i switch to SHR. The problem comes up when i reboot from SHR and choose again to start SHR from

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:25:54 +0100 (CET) Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net babbled: don't know - i dont work on gta03, but i do know in japan there is ONLY 3g+ - no 2g. :) (well pre 3g there were proprietary packet-based networks in japan). How is UMTS support on GTA03 (read support in

Re: [debian] Debian on FR wiki suggestion

2008-12-18 Thread Davide Scaini
Nice! d ps: for michele only: sephora unfortunately doesn't work with new framework... or is just my fault? On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.comwrote: Hello to all I am working on a cleaning activities on Debian on FR wiki:

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread john
A similar situation in London. Apparently we have the most WiFi hotspots in comparison to other cities [1] but you will have to pay to use the majority of these as they are operated by telecos like BT. [1]

Re: [debian] Debian on FR wiki suggestion

2008-12-18 Thread Michele Renda
Il 18/12/2008 10:50, Davide Scaini ha scritto: ps: for michele only: sephora unfortunately doesn't work with new framework... or is just my fault? No, is not your fault. The new framework changed a lot of thing, and now, according me, is more rational. All the program that use the frameword

Answer from Joerg (was: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL)

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us writes: Still waiting for an answer from OM. (I posted a question in this thread Friday regarding Tanatalum instead of Ceramic cap - the difference being $0.25 vs $2 each in qty 100, and my radio guy thinks Tant is a good choice for filtering, but waiting for

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Pander
hotpots in the world: http://maps.fon.com/ On Thu, December 18, 2008 10:51, john wrote: A similar situation in London. Apparently we have the most WiFi hotspots in comparison to other cities [1] but you will have to pay to use the majority of these as they are operated by telecos like BT.

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | ok, so i flashed the images above and then did a wget for the kernel | opk and then did a opkg install | kernel-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr76014+fb42ce6724576fc173faf8abfb04aa2c36d213b7-r2.01_om-gta02.opk. | |

gpspipe format

2008-12-18 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi, I want to use a script to generate gpx formatted traces. How must I convert the data taken from gpspipe ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen

Re: gpspipe format

2008-12-18 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: I want to use a script to generate gpx formatted traces. How must I convert the data taken from gpspipe ? Whatever format this is, your best chance is to use gpsbabel. -- Olivier

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Justyn Butler
2008/12/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: My practical experience is: a) in areas (urban) where you have HSDPA speed, you also have WiFi hotspots b) in all other areas (more rural) your connection falls back to GPRS anyway So, a phone that combines GPRS and WiFi is a little

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Zanetti
As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want to make some nice pictures! There is just one way to

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net babbled: As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile phone camera that doesn't

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread DJDAS
Michael Zanetti ha scritto: As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want to make some nice

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Micha? Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm writes: Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Okay; two Freerunner units, one restores semi-okay, one's screen | typically goes all black after an otherwise successful restore (not | before showing the appropriate display for

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti babbled: i have. and millions of japanese have. in japan the mobile is pretty much replacing the low-to-mid-end camera. for happy time snaps. why? their lenses and cameras are GOOD. 5+mpixel

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm afraid you need at least c59a8bdc7ca4b5470ebc43dfc31ed1d3d23a7c6f | to get stable operation with suspend/resume working. The latest image | at Andy's is from Dec 5, and the revision i use on the phone

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Justyn Butler
2008/12/18 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net: As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile phone camera that doesn't suck? Get a real camera if you want

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-18 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:20:58 +0100 quote: Current issues Messages starts but does not send the message - minor dbus issue if it is minor, do you guys have any idea how long it will take to resolve the issue Thanks for the hint, this was only about the old rev1. SMS works in the

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Pander
Sony Ericsson has very good camera's in their phone but this will cost indeed a lot in the range (production number) of Neo. I've noticed that I'd use the camera a lot for making notes of advertisements and posters in the city. Also in some countries, like Japan, the square barcode is used a lot

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:38:27PM +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti babbled: i have. and millions of japanese have. in japan the mobile is pretty much replacing the low-to-mid-end camera. for

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: | I'm afraid you need at least c59a8bdc7ca4b5470ebc43dfc31ed1d3d23a7c6f | to get stable operation with suspend/resume working. The latest image | at Andy's is from Dec 5, and the revision i use on the phone is from | Dec 8. Sounds right... | I

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Having a hackable eye on the Neo will open a lot of new posibilities, multiply this posibilities with gps*wifi*accelerometers* 2008/12/18 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net: Sony Ericsson has very good camera's in their phone but this will cost indeed a lot in the range (production number)

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Giorgio Marci wrote: I adjust the volume on QTExt 4.4.2 using alsamixer and then i'd like to store its state, but the command alsactl -f path_to_file.state store doesn't seem to work and, after that i make or receive a call, the state returns to default! How

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:52:20 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org babbled: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:38:27PM +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti babbled: i have. and millions of

Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:00:34 +, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote: I don't know what the physical difference is for the power tweak. (V6 can power up from wall power

Re: Answer from Joerg (was: Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL)

2008-12-18 Thread Vasco Névoa
I did the big-c buzzing rework myself, with the precious help of a much more smd-experienced colleague. It was very difficult to replace the resistor because of the proximity of the components around the mic. A very sharp soldering iron is critical. I used a 1k resistor (didn't have a 2k2 of

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:24:52 pm Michael Zanetti wrote: - Please don't add a camera Or make it optional, I have friends who are are now working in a building where cameras are forbidden (a car company) and so will have to discard their iPhones and Apple laptops for precisely this reason..

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-18 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:51:13 +0100 Sascha Wessel wes...@nefkom.net wrote: why do we need another distribution? The better solution would be to include the packages into debian, isn't it? This way everyone benefits. Technically it is not really another distribution. It is the port of the GTK

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Oh, good luck with GTA03 resume then. Resume never was easy :) Linus loves it too ''Now, suspend/resume debugging is some of the nastiest crud around...''

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:00:14PM +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:52:20 + Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org babbled: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:38:27PM +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote: On Thursday 18 December 2008 12:29:08 you wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Will Siddall
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:02 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: a 3g modem/module/chipset is REALLY expensive. especially if you have low volume (that means less than a few hundred thousand units). you pay a small fortune in royalties too. It is true, 3G is

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
Where are stored these files? there is a specific file state to store or can i store any file in any directory? and if yes, how can i set alsa to use that particular file? thanks - Original Message - From: Al Johnson To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [QTExtended]

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Pander
On Thu, December 18, 2008 13:15, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: ... OTOH, loose one, loose all... That is where online backups to servers and address book and calendar synchronisation with your laptop/dekstop are for. Rui -- Today is Boomtime, the 60th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread kenneth marken
Justyn Butler wrote: 2008/12/18 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net: As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture with a mobile phone camera that doesn't suck?

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Al Johnson
I'm not certain on QTExtended, but /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ is the usual location on most of the distros. You can use any filename you like, but the applications will only use the filenames they expect. I don't know if these are configurable or hardcoded in QTExtended. The names should be

Re: Version 2 -- New community distribution hackable1

2008-12-18 Thread clare johnstone
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Didier Raboud did...@raboud.com wrote: Marcus Bauer wrote: fully in the spirit of release early, release often we want to * This is not a judgment of quality of the given distribution. * I don't think that multiplying the _distributions_ is doing any good to

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: hotpots in the world: http://maps.fon.com/ this map is faked cause a node is added once you entered your coord in order to receive one router. No matter if you move between, or if you never plug it on... I agree to

[shr] blackout/suspend inhibit

2008-12-18 Thread Petr Vanek
Hi, perhaps i am not searching properly - is there a way to dynamically inhibit blackout/suspend somehow? I would like to trigger it for certain programs like navit or in case power is connected. i am note sure whether kernel version would be in question then - i use both andy-tracking and

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I think this discussion does not get my original point, which does take the useage pattern into account. When I am at work, at University, at home, visiting friends, I always have an open WiFi. In most of these locations I also have HSDPA. At my parents, mother-in-law's location or in

Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound

2008-12-18 Thread bubak
Hi, just want to add another confirmation that this works for me. I have image of SHR from 2008-12-09 intalled on my neo. Thanks a lot Leonti wrote: I tried it and it's working great! Thanks. Leonti On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com wrote: the echo of

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
thanks for the help, andy. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: Well, first confirm with cat /proc/version that you're running what you think you're running. r...@om-gta02:~# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.24 (bu...@barbie) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT

Re: [QTExtended] cannot store alsa state

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
Thanks very much for your explaination.. very useful. The last curiosity...is there a place to find a schema of what I change if i change alsamixer values? i mean, what is the value to change in order to increase the caller's voice? - Original Message - From: Al Johnson To:

Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Esben Stien
Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. If your network is configured with this IP range and you pop a freerunner in, it of course cause a world of pain. Please choose a more

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Marcel
Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. If your network is configured with this IP range and you pop a freerunner

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 15:46, Esben Stien wrote: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. +1 Stroller ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 Dec 2008, at 14:55, Marcel wrote: Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. ... Nearly every network I know

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Andreas Fischer
Marcel wrote: Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. Well... no - with a sane routing configuration that shouldn't

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some | research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used | other distros where frameblanking was the norm and never had

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread flamma
IME 192.168.1.* is the *second* most common address range for private networks. I think in Spain nearly all ISP, distribute their routers for home users with the 192.168.1.* default. Until the Freerunner, I had never seen a 192.168.0.* network (or I don't remember). I suppose it's part of the

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Marcel
Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:14:06 schrieb Andreas Fischer: Marcel wrote: Am Thursday 18 December 2008 16:46:55 schrieb Esben Stien: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means

Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

2008-12-18 Thread john dowd
Well, I flashed my Neo with the Om2008.9-gta02-20081106 image and jffs2 file system and I have a phone that boots once again. In fact I have it fully functional with my original target of an automatic wifi connection using WPA2 encryption to my Access Point. I'm running a laptop with hostapd and a

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:59:25PM +0100, Pander wrote: On Thu, December 18, 2008 13:15, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: ... OTOH, loose one, loose all... That is where online backups to servers and address book and calendar synchronisation with your laptop/dekstop are for. Do they give me

Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-18 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks Timo, I'm wanting to install gnue-forms on my phone for some database work. When I didn't have mxdate time installed at all, I would run the gnue-forms installation script and it would complain, predictably, that I hadn't met the requirements. I apt-get installed it onto my ubuntu laptop

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread flamma
Nearly every network I know uses 192.168.1.*, so the default is perfectly fine... Although something like 192.168.64.* could be statistically more failsafe. Actually in that case I would avoid all powers of two. A higher prime number, like 97, might be a good choice... I just typed

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net babbled: As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I will put my 2ct here also: - Please don't add a camera: Has ever anyone made a picture

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means problems. 169.254.0.0/16 is

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Peter Abplanalp
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote Somebody in the thread at some point said: | i'm not sure how to turn on framebuffer blanking but i will do some | research and use that for a bit and report back; however, i have used | other distros where frameblanking was

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Giorgio Marci
In Italy most of the home user routers have 192.168.0.* by default. - Original Message - From: fla...@correo.ugr.es To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:20:35 +0100 (CET) IME 192.168.1.*

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Carlo Minucci
Giorgio Marci ha scritto: In Italy most of the home user routers have 192.168.0.* by default. in italy most are 192.168.1.* :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread flamma
Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a link-local address? * Pick a random address * check that it is free (arp, ping,...) * take it. That has a good chance of working, even for those who routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time. Helge

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
One word. zeroconf Oh, it is two words zeroconf and bonjour www.zeroconf.org/ PS: As fallback for DHCP of course. Esben Stien wrote: Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*? This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in the world and of course this means

Re: WSOD

2008-12-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi, Peter Abplanalp pta-openm...@psaconsultants.com writes: can you also please point me to somewhere that tells me about how to use andy-tracking instead of stock and what things might be broken due to the /sys filesystem changes. Basically you can try to use andy-tracking with FSO ms4 with

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread t m
I opted for the G1, partly for the reasons you've given, but mainly because it turned out to be available as a free upgrade from my old handset. I can't say I'm terribly happy with it. I haven't had my hands on a Freerunner yet for comparison, but depending upon what you want to do with your

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread Gothnet
Olivier Migeot wrote: Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still working on their product some months after it's been released. Granted, the first release was nowhere near astounding. But in closed world developement, who could claim such dedication? ;) In a closed world

Re: [2008.testing] Re: alsa problem after resume

2008-12-18 Thread Fox Mulder
Try to just stop the speech-dispatcher service running all the time and just start/end it with navit. This should also solve the problem but you still got text2speech capabilities. :) Ciao, Rainer W.Kenworthy wrote: Solution: removed speech dispatcher from running and rebooted. Will

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster
Gothnet schrieb: Olivier Migeot wrote: Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still working on their product some months after it's been released. Granted, the first release was nowhere near astounding. But in closed world developement, who could claim such dedication? ;)

Re: [Android] Can't boot from current git

2008-12-18 Thread Jim Ancona
Radek Polak wrote: Hi, yesterday i updated and built latest adnroid sources from http://git.koolu.org/. While the previous versions were working fine, this one does not boot. It hangs somewhere in init. These are last lines i see: init: cannot find '/system/bin/playmp3', disabling

Re: No more optimization team

2008-12-18 Thread Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster
edit: yes, the battery life sucks at the testing image (on 2008.9 i had 40 hours, which is not great, but since i come at least every second day, this was not a problem) ---BeginMessage--- Gothnet schrieb: Olivier Migeot wrote: Community, you have this Openmoko company who is still

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Sargun Dhillon
Most Linux users, or most users that this device is aimed at are intelligent enough to do a ip addr add 192.168.0.200/32 dev usb0 ip route add 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 This will only make two addresses on your network inaccessible. Then you can SSH into it, and change the IP address. This takes a

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 18.12.2008 um 19:50 schrieb Sargun Dhillon: Most Linux users, or most users that this device is aimed at are intelligent enough to do a ip addr add 192.168.0.200/32 dev usb0 ip route add 192.168.0.202/32 dev usb0 This will only make two addresses on your network inaccessible. Then you

Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?

2008-12-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: have to do then is get Debian to work on my openmoko ;-) Just install debian to chroot if you don't want to replace your current distro completely. http://iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt has instructions on how to make this more or less transparent to use

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Sargun Dhillon
The OpenMoko FreeRunner was never aimed at end users. It's always been aimed at developers, and if you don't know how to set routes do a man ip or ip help. There are a fair chunk of those developers who don't have the IP overlap issue. I'd say there are maybe 1000 active freerunner users, and

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/12/19 Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com: 6.5 billion people in the world. Stop yer whining. i think you shouldn't be so dismissive to someone who, rather than whining, put his point forward in a constructive way. this was hardly your average ill-directed rant from someone who

Re: Navit add destination

2008-12-18 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:13:07 + Samuel Pereira em...@samuelpereira.net (SP) wrote: Hi, Can you add any destination on navit? Thanks, Samuel With the new version: click anywhere you want to go to on the map, this will bring up menu, choose Actions and then you will see the coordinates of

Re: OpenVibe is out

2008-12-18 Thread Carlo Minucci
Peter Stumm ha scritto: hi, where can i find the source code, i want to start programming with enlightenment and need a little example. for example you can read this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Python#Minimal_ETK_gui+ and this for documentation

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Micha? Brzozowski
Andy Green wrote: | I suggest you compile the kernel as well as relevant modules | yourself. Or ask Andy to update his private directory. :) I am sitting on another update to power management stuff from Ben Dooks locally the last week until I can confirm it didn't do to GTA02 resume what the

Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Simon Kagstrom
Hi! Everybody has their own reasons for using or not using the Freerunner as their daily phone. I've so far used it mostly as a toy (fun one at that) because I miss one feature: An easy GUI setup method for bluetooth headsets (A2DP would be quite nice too). I've simply grown used to being able to

Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Everybody has their own reasons for using or not using the Freerunner as their daily phone. I've so far used it mostly as a toy (fun one at that) because I miss one feature: An easy GUI setup method for

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming once, there | is noise on the screen, the bad TV antenna sort.

Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

2008-12-18 Thread Erland Lewin
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So: Do any of the distributions allow easy use of bluetooth headsets? Are there active projects working on this? I'd be really interested in hearing reports about how well the Freerunner works in

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Micha? Brzozowski
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming once, there | is noise on the screen, the bad TV antenna sort. Subsequent | suspends/resumes

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Joel Newkirk
I disagree - I've been a vocal proponent for many months of tidying up networking, including setting IP and subnet to something less likely to lead to conflicts. Yes, I agree that the vast majority of people using a FreeRunner as I type this are quite capable of performing the changes you mention

Re: Black SOD for a change

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | I noticed a fresh kernel in your directory, so I flashed it. It seems | | to resume, which is nice, but after suspending and resuming

Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-18 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:16:32 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: I disagree - I've been a vocal proponent for many months of tidying up networking, including setting IP and subnet to something less likely to lead to conflicts. Yes, I agree that the vast majority of people using a

[debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-18 Thread Neil Jerram
I noticed that there are now e17 packages in debian unstable, and that these include -dbg packages. Since my current e17 (from the enlightenment-all-in-one deb that someone put together) always SEGV's on startup, and since Raster has asked for backtrace with symbols when that happens, I thought

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:51 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:24:52 +0100 Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net babbled: As It seems this thread is becoming more and more some sort of a whish-list, I

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:09 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org babbled: i'm taking usage pattern into account - and when i'm @ wifi.. i also have a keyboard, screen and real machine to use... so if i want to check something/google for it or whatever - i use something more

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-18 Thread Justyn Butler
2008/12/18 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:08:09 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org babbled: i'm taking usage pattern into account - and when i'm @ wifi.. i also have a keyboard, screen and real machine to use... so if i want to check

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