Sales?

2008-08-06 Thread Tim Dobson
I have heard from two sources now[1][2] that the demand for Freerunner's
has been above and beyond everyone's expectations.

Does anyone have any data they can release as to roughly how many are
thought to have been sold so far?

Keep up the good stuff everyone!


Tim

[1] https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Openmoko
[2] my friend in the states has apparently been talking to an someone in
the know.

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Re: Video on Freerunner?

2008-08-24 Thread Tim Dobson
Leonti wrote:
 Here is the page describing how to play videos on Freerunner:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player
 So I have some questions:
 Did anyone tried to transcode videos on the Freerunner itself? 
 For example: go to youtube - download video to sd card - transcode it to
 the needed format(how long does it take, by the way) - watch it?
 
 Is it useable?
 Does someone watch videos often on the freerunner?
 Are there any new developments for the video playback sinse that wiki page
 is updated?

you tube video are possible on the free runner. though not instantly...

on your home computer install clive and configure it to transcode flv 
to mpg
then copy across and use mplayer and quasar from the angstrom 
repositories to play.

(tested on 2007.4)

Sorry, i don't really have a better answer... it works. but is far from 
perfect...

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My Suggestions for FDOM

2008-09-25 Thread Tim Dobson
Hi there,
I've just moved to FDOM and I love it.

I have a few ideas to make it better - these aren't criticisms - it's 
great at the moment - these are just ideas to make it better - I don't 
expect anyone to agree about all of them, but these are suggestions...

# Midori(with the settings tweaked) is better for the screensize than 
minimo - I find it more usable

# accel-rotate program, or a way to start/stop it - this is a simple 
script to use the accelerometers to rotate with xrandr. It seems quite 
stable. An ipkg is available - http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Rotate

When I was running 22007.2, two cool programs I had from Angstrom were:

# Quasar - a x11 mplayer front end.
This is not perfect for the freerunner - it ideally needs some UI work 
doing (more than just setting tweaking), especially on it's fonts, 
however, i have launched mpg QVGA videos with it and watched them as 
well as listening to music with it.

# Claws Mail
A lightweight mail client - with a bit of UI tweaking from the view menu 
makes a completely usable mail client. Since we have qmail, I guess this 
is not necessary, but it's a thought.

# FBreader?
I would love to see an ebook reader but I think there are big dependency 
issues here :(

# Games
Personally, I would prefer to get rid of sudoku and to possibly to get 
kobodeluxe on there.
Though not ready yet, keeping an eye on 
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/accelgame might be good.

# lint-wifi
Personally, I prefer lint-wifi to mofi. I really like being able to see 
the network info it displays (ie IP, DNS DDHCP) as it helps 
troubleshooting stuff when things dont work :P
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi

# wpa_supplicant.conf
Possibly modify the default the wpa_supplicant.conf to automatically 
connect to unencrypted wifi hotspots? :-/

I can't help too much - my stupid OM setup script - (givemeteh)apppznow 
is pretty much obsolete as a result of FDOM :) so I will help in the 
ways I can. I have joined the development list and considering all the 
spare high speed bandwidth I have, I've set up a mirror - 
http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fadom/

At some point soon I'll get rid of the 'a' in fadom :P

Cheers for the good work, keep it up! :D

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Re: kobodeluxe - how do you quit?

2008-09-27 Thread Tim Dobson
Al Johnson wrote:
 On Thursday 25 September 2008, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 I installed the kobodeluxe game for the kid, but we cant figure out how
 to exit it :(

 Even if you go through 5 new lives and get the menu, hitting quit with a
 stylus just takes you back into the game.  Ended up removing the
 battery.

 How?
 
 IIRC tap at the top of the screen moves menu selection up, tapping at the 
 bottom moves it down and tapping in the middle accepts the current menu item. 
 If you try to treat it as a point-and-click app by  tapping Quit you end up 
 accepting new game instead. Took me a while to work that one out, usually 
 after accidentally starting it when I was trying to scroll through the 
 Applications menu!

Yeah. the four corners of the screen and then the centre of the screen 
are 5 different buttons
trial and error mens you eventually work out which is which :)

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Re: Very interested onlooker

2008-09-27 Thread Tim Dobson
Minh Ha Duong wrote:
 I have not read anything about Abiword on FreeRunner.
It should be possible to run Abiword on Debian's distro.

I run FDOM (2008.9) - depending on what you need to do text editing is 
possible and it is there :)

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Re: Any hope for bug #666?

2008-11-05 Thread Tim Dobson
JC Denton wrote:
 Hi,
 is there any new info / progress on bug #666 ( 
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 ) that is not yet on the trac/wiki?
  
 That bug is now 15 months (!) old and has yet to receive any serious 
 attention - I'm hesitating to buy a Freerunner solely because it most 
 likely wont work with my O2 sim.

I have tried at least 2 designs and 3 O2 UK sim cards in it.
none worked.

Subsequently I moved to Orange UK. Not any difference in prices 
really... but it works nicely...

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Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-07 Thread Tim Dobson
Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about 
Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a 
short presentation, five minutes before it started.

It wasn't very good, but it got a message across - a message that a 
Freerunner + FDOM = a smartphone that worked as a smartphone.

Today, I sat down and went through the presentation, improved it a bit, 
and put it more into the style I like to do presentations in. :)

You can find my improved presentation, available under CC-BY-SA 3.0 at:
http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/openmokopresentation1.2.odp
http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/openmokopresentation1.2.pdf

My apologies to the developers and users of anything which isn't FDOM, 
you guys do an amazing job on your projects and I don't give you enough 
credit.
I'm sorry.

Keep on innovating and doing cool stuff! :)

Cheers

Tim

P.S. My original presentation and other things can be found at 
http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/

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Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-07 Thread Tim Dobson
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 I will try to make a pt_PT translation.
 
 Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at:
 
 http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/

Wow!

This has really made my day! :D

Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating!

Tim

P.S. I added your translation to 
http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/

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Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-08 Thread Tim Dobson
Paul wrote:
 Tim Dobson wrote:
 Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about 
 Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a 
 short presentation, five minutes before it started.
   
 
 Fantastic!! I have my own 'freerunner experience' webpage, is it okay if 
 I link to your PDF-presentation from there?

You can do anything you want with it under the Creative Commons BY-SA 
3.0 licence.

Linking is fine! :)

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Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-14 Thread Tim Dobson
Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
 Openmoko actually has learnt a lot from this. First we have learnt to  
 not trust high-level promises as much as before.
 In fact I would go as far as saying that going forward, we will not  
 trust any promises about 'we will open this up later' anymore.
 Either it's open and documented at the time we make the decision to  
 use those chips, or we look elsewhere.
 I believe that's what our customers want.

I read in the development list archive a big discussion about whether 
customers/enduser/developers would accept non-free bits to things like 
the wifi.

I didn't subscribe because the list is very developer orientated so I 
don't know what the end result was, however I hope, in light of this 
thread, someone can reveal it ended favourably. :)

 We have a long way to go to come out with kick-ass open phone  
 hardware, but if our community doesn't loose faith and continues to do  
 development together with us, we'll get there. The momentum we have  
 built with the Freerunner is awesome. Please continue to buy  
 Freerunners and to develop for it, same is happening internally. The  
 next phones will build on top of the free platform we have built  
 together, the technology investment will carry over.

Keep doing what you are doing, there are problems, there will continue 
to be problems... lets not get demoralised but look forward to GTA 3 (do 
what you can but try not to let my hair turn grey first! ;) ) and if 
anything can be done about the glamo chip by engaging smedia, I would 
love openmoko to give it a try. :)

If there is anything people who aren't skilled developers, who have no 
money(!), can do other than what we are already doing, please let us 
know.  :)

Finally, thanks for engaging with the community it's nice to get some 
feedback even if it isn't all good news[1].

Cheers

Tim

[1] I *would* be really interested to know Openmoko's original projected 
sales figures for GTA02 and current sales so far! I guess this probably 
isn't possible but nobody gets hurt asking!

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Re: [FDOM] ePDFViewer

2008-11-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Crossposted to Fdom-developement

Giovanni wrote:
 Today I installed FDOM 20081023.
 
 When I open ePDFViewer, it asks for a password, saying that the 
 documented is encrypted.
 I cannot open any of my documents, because of this problem.

this is a bug I have been meaning to report for a while now.

 How to fix this?

The issue arises because I think the launching dialog launches it with 
an %s argument or something which specifies the path of the file that 
should be loaded. because it apparently can't deal with no being able to 
  find the file gracefully, it aassumes something is encrypted and asks 
for a password.

Launching from the terminal epdfviewer works fine...

fixing this *should* (in theory) be trivial, however I don't know, 
without looking exactly how to do this...

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Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-16 Thread Tim Dobson
David Samblas wrote:
 El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió:
 Count with an Spanish translation in short too :)

 I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM
 focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions...
 you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough?

When I get some more free time, I'll see what I can do.

originally it was used for an event where other people were presenting 
the different distributions (and in their cases saying why it wasn't 
their main phone) so in context it didn't look so harsh on them but I do 
take your point.

At the moment (always actually) my life is really busy, and I can't see 
when I will have time, but when I will do my best :)

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Re: I realy like them

2008-11-21 Thread Tim Dobson
drac2000 wrote:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Jokes :-p

That's awesome.

I pledge 10,000 imaginary internet lulz to the first person to come up 
with a *funny* joke where openmoko/the freerunner isn't the butt of the 
joke.. :)

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Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?

2008-12-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Al Johnson wrote:
 Only some 3G SIMs are problematic (bug #666), and that seems to have been 
 fixed with the recent gsm firmware update. It now works for my O2 UK SIM 
 anyway.

It does?

I'll have to check that out! Thanks for the heads up!

(I moved from Orange UK to O2 because of this bug.)

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Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters

2008-12-15 Thread Tim Dobson
Yorick Moko wrote:
 *do you use the FR? As your daily phone? Why not? Which distro do you
 prefer? Which app is your favorite?

What phone is in your pocket right now?
What distro is it running? Why?
What do you use your phone for the most?
What distros have you tried?
What other portable consumer electronics do you use on a regular basis?
Who in the community, after yourself, deserves praise for their 
achievements which might otherwise go unnoticed?
What is the most pointless application on the Freerunner?
What is the most interesting thing you have seen the Freerunner used for?
Which is your favourite Freerunner joke?

:D

Tim


P.s. anyone else feel free to fork thread and give their own point of 
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Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters

2008-12-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Ok, since I asked, I'll answer too.

Tim Dobson wrote:
 What phone is in your pocket right now?
none. My Freerunner is on a lanyard round my neck though.
 What distro is it running? Why?
FDOM (latest 'stable' image)
Because I don't like installing applications if I can help it.
I find installing applications (and hacking the installs) a quick way to 
nuke your install.
 What do you use your phone for the most?
Sending text messages
 What distros have you tried?
(not very recently) 2007.2, 2008.8 (possibly 2008.9 as well), Qtopia 
(briefly)
 What other portable consumer electronics do you use on a regular basis?
A nokia 3310 as an alarm clock and phone book.
(I realise FDOM does both of these, but I easily oversleep, so I set 
reminders on the phone every 2 minutes after the initial alarm and the 
qtopia-x11 doesn't seem to let me move contacts from isntall to install 
easily :-/ )
 Who in the community, after yourself, deserves praise for their 
 achievements which might otherwise go unnoticed?

The people who hack away on uncool programs, do things they may not 
enjoy but provide the necessary infrastructure for everyone else to do 
the things they want.

 What is the most pointless application on the Freerunner?

Obviously OpenMooCow does the least useful thing, but it still brings a 
smile to your face, probably The GIMP running in debian on the 
freerunner was what I thought was the most pointless thing, however, I 
could be very wrong there and I for one would be interested in seeing 
the FR work as a graphics tablet..

 What is the most interesting thing you have seen the Freerunner used for?

A vibrator is the funniest hack I have seen...
The starmap, orrey, is one of the most innovative ideas the the 
potential Doom and DukeNukem3d have shown (even with less than ideal 
situations with graphics drivers) for 1 first person acceerometer 
control FPS is amazing.
I could go on...

In the future I want to use it as my Personal Music Player, but I trod 
on one of the ear phones and it broke and haven't got round to getting 
some more yet :(

 Which is your favourite Freerunner joke?
Q: What's the difference between a Freerunner and a brick?
A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls.

Though, to be honest, this hasn't been my experience of it really, I use 
it as my phone every day!


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Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about Openmoko

2008-12-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Sargun Dhillon wrote:
  On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, mike wmichaeltr...@yahoo.com wrote:
  ok, with all the old smartphones going on sale unlocked for as low as
  $99-$149, how soon can i buy a moko for $99 (i'd prolly take three)
 
 Those are subsidized prices. Sometimes you can get them used for $99.
 I never buy used phones as they usually are broken.

Umm It's not too hard to work out actually.

For the Neo 1973:
Find 3 current owners who aren't using it and make them an offer.

For the Neo Freerunner:
Wait til GTAv3 is released and then watch as the price of second hand 
Freerunners plummet as all the developers and hackers upgrade...
For better or for worse, they all will. there's community for you.

Well... there's the answer. Don't ask me when GTAv3 will be released 
though... :p

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Re: Ask Sean Moss-Pultz about community matters

2008-12-16 Thread Tim Dobson
Marc Bantle wrote:

 Question 1
 Are you willing to talk about marketing figures?
 How many devices have been sold. Freerunner?
 Neo 1973? Other (OEM) Hardware provided
 by Openmoko?

That's a good question I hadn't thought of, I'd love to hear some 
details on that :)

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Re: macfuse and freerunner

2008-12-17 Thread Tim Dobson
Michele Renda wrote:
 Hello
 
 Il 17/12/2008 21:05, Boštjan Jerko ha scritto:
 I can ssh to Freerunner from Mac OSX, but I'd like to mount
 directories over ssh.

 Which sshd server are you using on Freerunner?
 If it is dropbear the problem is that dropbrear seem to be not 
 supporting ssh mount. You have to switch OpenSSH.

I can use sshfs on ubuntu intrepid with dropbear on the freerunner (FDOM)

I think macfuse is the same theory/same code so :-/

maybe use the -v flag to show us some verbose output...

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Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2008-12-28 Thread Tim Dobson
Giovanni wrote:
 I installed both the media players (Om and Qtopia).
 
 I'm not able to use any of them.

Try playing a .ogg instead of .mp3?

Have you bee trying .mp3s?

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Re: Problems running pidgin

2008-12-31 Thread Tim Dobson
Florian Lherbette wrote:
 Are other people having issues with pidgin ?

No idea, I'm not on 2008.12 but do you think you could run the output 
from pidgin -d that way we may be able to get a better sense whats 
going on :)

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Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer

2009-01-04 Thread Tim Dobson
Giovanni wrote:
 Great !!!
 
 It works!
 
 Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound 
 from the loud speakers.
 
 Do you know how to solve this problem?

Not persoanlly but there are daemons/scripts that do this properly...

search headphone script openmoko 2008 or something...?

I know FDOM testing includes the script to do this.

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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread Tim Dobson
kris Occhipinti wrote:
 I forgot to mention the need for pygame.
 I'm still running  om2008.9
 and I installed pygame like this
 g iopkg install 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/python/python-pygame_1.7.1-ml2_armv4t.ipk
 
 If you have pygame installed it should work,
 I'll look into the pygame.error: No available audio device
 and installing pygame should brick your distro.

installing pygame bricks 2008.9?

*is in the process of doing it anyway*

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Re: FDOM and GPRS?

2009-01-26 Thread Tim Dobson
Steffen Winkler wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is it possible to use GPRS with the current FDOM image?

I don't know :-/ I have been trying for a while... I'm not sure whether 
it is the software versions and bugs, phone network doing silly things 
or the stupid user stopping it working.

 If yes: Is there a GUI or do I have to adjust the config files by hand?

You need to adjust the config files by hand.You can start it from GUI 
from the services panel, once it is configured.

 If I've to adjust the config files by hand, is there a howto? (which
 files and what do I've to edit there)

I don't think so. I've been looking for a modern OM 2008.XX GPRS howto 
for a long time and none exist really as far as I know.

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[Conference] FOSDEM 09 - who is going?

2009-01-29 Thread Tim Dobson
Biggest F/LOSS conference in Europe is happening in a few weeks time...

Who is going? It'd be great to put names to mailing list faces, meet 
people doing cool things with their devices and help people who are 
feeling a bit stuck get started.

I'm going; this will be my first FOSDEM.

Cheers Tim


P.S. I know some OM community members have strong opinions about FOSDEM 
(which I somewhat sympathise with) and if you want to chat about the 
political bits, please fork the thread. :)

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Will software patents stop us having multitouch?

2009-02-18 Thread Tim Dobson
I recently came across this blog post which, interesting explains that the
Android G1 is *capable* of multitouch but chose not to use it for some
reason - some suggest, for fear of litigation from Apple.

http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/2009/01/30/what-does-that-two-finger-gesture-mean/

I don't live in the USA so it may not be such an issue for me but it could
still cause problems for Openmoko...

What are your thoughts?

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Re: [need tester] Voicenote - record voice notes

2009-02-19 Thread Tim Dobson
kimaidou wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I spend the day creating a small zenity + bash application wich records 
 the sound from the built-in freerunner microphone into a wav file.

YAY! I've been hoping for something like this for a while. :D

On 2008.12 + Kustomizer 0.3:

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/package
s/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk -force-depends
Downloading 
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root...
Installing libgnomecanvas-2-0 (2.20.0-r0) to root...
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libgnomecanvas-2-0_2.20.0-r0_armv4t.opk
Installing libgailutil18 (1.20.0-r0) to root...
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libgailutil18_1.20.0-r0_armv4t.opk
Installing libart-lgpl-2-2 (2.3.19-r2) to root...
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/libart-lgpl-2-2_2.3.19-r2_armv4t.opk
Configuring libart-lgpl-2-2
Configuring libgailutil18
Configuring libgnomecanvas-2-0
Configuring zenity
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install voicenote_0.1_arm.ipk
Installing voicenote (0.1) to root...
Configuring voicenote
r...@om-gta02:~# ls ### Software launched and run from GUI
24948-0.zip   kustomizer
Applications  kustomizer_messages.log
FB_samplebook.txt packages
Settings  playlists
backuprec-2009-02-19-23-37.wav -  RECORDED file
bkupapplications  voicenote_0.1_arm.ipk
fr_bind
r...@om-gta02:~#

The UI isn't pretty or intuitive, there is no where to set options but 
for v0.1 it works fine! :D

Well done and thank you!

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Pidgin Facebook plugin :: troubleshoot arm problems...

2009-02-20 Thread Tim Dobson
Hi there,

I'm on 2008.12 += Kustomizer and I have just got pidgin working.

On my desktop I use a hackish pidgin plugin to use facebook chat via pidgin.
The website is here:
http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/

There is a version built for arm: 
http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/downloads/detail?name=libfacebookarm-1.47.so

but I get the feeling it is arm5 because the moment one starts to use it 
pidgin crashes because of illegal instruction

The only reason I attempted to use the prebuilt version is because I had 
such a touch time trying to get the right things installed to be able to 
build my own (I'm not experienced at doing this!)

Has anyone got any ideas?

Tim

howto install it:
http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/wiki/How_To_Install

Crash log below:
(18:18:42) jabber: xmlParseChunk returned error 100
(18:18:46) util: Writing file accounts.xml to directory /home/root/.purple
(18:18:46) util: Writing file /home/root/.purple/accounts.xml
(18:18:46) util: Writing file blist.xml to directory /home/root/.purple
(18:18:46) util: Writing file /home/root/.purple/blist.xml
(18:19:02) jabber: jabber_actions: have pep: NO
(18:19:02) account: Connecting to account someuser
(18:19:02) connection: Connecting. gc = 0x4b4fa0
(18:19:02) facebook: sending request headers:
POST /login.php HTTP/1.0
Host: login.facebook.com
Connection: close
User-Agent: Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en-GB)
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-length: 121
Accept: */*
Cookie: isfbe=false;test_cookie=1;

(18:19:02) dns: DNS query for 'login.facebook.com' queued
(18:19:02) dns: DNS query for 'login.facebook.com' queued
(18:19:02) dns: Created new DNS child 1447, there are now 1 children.
(18:19:02) dns: Successfully sent DNS request to child 1447
(18:19:02) dns: Created new DNS child 1448, there are now 2 children.
(18:19:02) dns: Successfully sent DNS request to child 1448
(18:19:02) dns: Got response for 'login.facebook.com'
(18:19:02) dnsquery: IP resolved for login.facebook.com
(18:19:02) facebook: updating cache of dns addresses
(18:19:02) facebook: Host login.facebook.com has IP 69.63.180.173
(18:19:02) dns: Got response for 'login.facebook.com'
(18:19:02) dnsquery: IP resolved for login.facebook.com
(18:19:02) proxy: Attempting connection to 69.63.180.173
(18:19:02) proxy: Connecting to login.facebook.com:443 with no proxy
(18:19:02) proxy: Connection in progress
(18:19:03) proxy: Connected to login.facebook.com:443.
(18:19:03) gnutls: Starting handshake with login.facebook.com
(18:19:03) gnutls: Handshake complete
(18:19:03) gnutls/x509: Key print: 
52:6c:34:5c:4d:f6:11:d3:27:04:af:a8:ae:8e:71:a6:98:57:45:e3
(18:19:03) gnutls: Peer provided 1 certs
(18:19:03) gnutls: Lvl 0 SHA1 fingerprint: 
52:6c:34:5c:4d:f6:11:d3:27:04:af:a8:ae:8e:71:a6:98:57:45:e3
(18:19:03) gnutls: Serial: 05:1b:4c
(18:19:03) gnutls: Cert DN: 
C=US,O=login.facebook.com,OU=GT04482452,OU=See 
www.geotrust.com/resources/cps (c)06,OU=Domain Control Validated - 
QuickSSL(R),CN=login.facebook.com
(18:19:03) gnutls: Cert Issuer DN: C=US,O=Equifax Secure Inc.,CN=Equifax 
Secure Global eBusiness CA-1
(18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Starting verify for 
login.facebook.com
(18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Checking for cached cert...
(18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: ...Found cached cert
(18:19:03) gnutls: Attempting to load X.509 certificate from 
/home/root/.purple/certificates/x509/tls_peers/login.facebook.com
(18:19:03) certificate/x509/tls_cached: Peer cert matched cached
(18:19:03) certificate: Successfully verified certificate for 
login.facebook.com
(18:19:03) facebook: post_or_get_ssl_connect_cb
(18:19:04) gnutls: receive failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length 
was received.
(18:19:04) facebook: ssl error, but data received.  attempting to continue
(18:19:04) facebook: response headers
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:21:59 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.41.fb1
Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
Cache-Control: private, no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, 
post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
P3P: CP=HONK
Set-Cookie: 
datr=1235154119-0ced3018d903912eaeafc91216d086a44662bde3bb464d7d71fc5; 
expires=Thu, 21-May-2009 18:21:59 GMT; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; 
httponly
Set-Cookie: test_cookie=1; path=/; domain=.facebook.com
Set-Cookie: login=+; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; httponly
Set-Cookie: 
login_x=a%3A2%3A%7Bs%3A5%3A%22email%22%3Bs%3A15%3A%22someuser%22%3Bs%3A19%3A%22remember_me_default%22%3Bb%3A1%3B%7D;
 
expires=Tue, 16-Jun-2009 12:08:39 GMT; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; 
httponly
Set-Cookie: reg_fb_gate=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.facebook.com%2Flogin.php; 
path=/; domain=.facebook.com
Set-Cookie: reg_fb_ref=https%3A%2F%2Flogin.facebook.com%2Flogin.php; 
path=/; domain=.facebook.com
Set-Cookie: test_cookie=1; path=/; domain=.facebook.com
Set-Cookie: login=+; path=/; domain=.facebook.com; httponly
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

snip
...
...
(18:18:42) 

Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)

2009-02-21 Thread Tim Dobson
Olivier Migeot wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
 timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 
 There are many creative commons licenses, some are permit commercial
 use, some don't.
 
 If you go one click further, you'd discover that the said Creative
 Commons licence chosed by OpenCellID is :
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
 
 So it should be ok for openbmap guys. That could explain the thing
 about merging both databases. Any official insight on this? I've
 been collecting cell information for a few weeks, with some home-made
 script, and I'd like to know where I should commit them to.

Please please forgive me if I'm wrong. I put my hand up and say I am not 
an expert in this area and COULD BE WRONG.

opencellid has A LOT of data for the UK. In fact it wouldn't surprise me 
if this was all the towers.

Due to a load of people being scared of phone masts and radiation etc, 
the uk body in charge of radio stuff etc. OFCOM, made available on this 
website:
http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/
pretty much all the locations of all the cell towers...

I'm not sure how that information is licenced.. I have seen discussions 
about this before I think but I can't remember where... it could have 
been OSM related.

Obviously the issue would be opencellid integrating unclearls licenced data.

Before you reply:

STOP. As I said before, I may well be wrong!

Happy Hacking,

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Adam Jimerson wrote:

 4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes with FDOM it 
 takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites but in 
 TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
 5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it

I don't think FDOM is recommended really anymore... at least not the 
stable version.

For a FDOM like experience on 2008.12 install the 2008.12 image then run 
Kustomizer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer

There are some things that won't be better, but in some things there is 
a marked difference. one thing to realise is that the group of programs 
installed may well differ.

let us know how you get on,

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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Adam Jimerson wrote:
 I tried 2008.12 and my SIM card would not register so I can't use that.

Try SHR. My SIM card which won't work with 2009.12 and 2008.12 
annoyingly works fine with it.

Alternatively search the wiki about Sim card issues


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Re: What to do when apps keep crashing?

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Adam Jimerson wrote:
  
 
 
   4. GPS doesn't fully work, in the sets program that comes
 with FDOM it
   takes a couple of minutes before it starts finding satelites
 but in
   TangoGPS it never can find any even after 10+ minutes.
   5. Installing/upgrading a program with opkg breaks it
  
   I have expectecd problems like these when I bought my
 freerunner but I
   can't find a fix for any of them, flashing my kernel and
 distro only
   delays the problem, it always comes back if not there after
 flashing it.
 
 Time for another distribution maybe - FDOM is kind of old?
 Tried the new SHR testing?
 
 
 I will give SHR Testing a try
 
 
 First off sorry about reposting, but after looking at the SHR wiki page 
 there is one concern and a question
 
 On the wiki page this is listed under the Known Issues
 
 
   Address Book
 
 SHR is not implementing a PIM (Personal Information Manager) yet. Work 
 is in progress, but to included in SHR testing this has some 
 consequences on daily use:
 
 * Only contacts on the SIM card are available. 
 
 * It is not possible to import a Vcard file.
   o It seems to be possible with this
 
 gopher://gopher.fnordpol.de/9/data/DbusAccessScripts_0.0.0.tar.gz
 script written by Zem
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Zem#DBus_Access_Scripts. 
 
 None of my contacts are on my SIM card and it would take forever to move 
 all of them onto it, the link the the script quoted is a dead link does 
 anyone have a correct link they can point me to or a suggested app that 
 can read Vcards so  I can import my contacts from FDOM, copied onto my 
 MicroSD card, into SHR?

this is unlikely to work for the time being I suspect.

I know it is possible to transfer contacts to a 2008.12 distro with the 
qtopia/x11 stack because I have done it, and with a few thoughts i could 
write a how to but :-/

Tim


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Re: Qt Software discontinues Qt Extended

2009-03-03 Thread Tim Dobson
Lorn Potter wrote:
 http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended

That's very sad. :(

*resists the urge to shout very loud abuse*

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Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-02 Thread Tim Dobson
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that
 gets less and less Free as new devices come up :)
 
 I seriously hope GTA3 fixes some of the most serious problems GTA2 had
 regarding that.

It's interesting that we have been talking extensively about a GTA3 as 
the next high powered has it all device. It may well be.

Let's imagine a GTA2.5 however...

GTA2 with a few hardware issues solved, GPS fix time, call quality (the 
hardware bits), accelerated graphics! :) and the other bits and bobs...

Then imagine *dropping* the price.

I am not at openmoko and this will almost certainly not happen :) but 
remember - most FOSS devs want a *phone*, a libre *phone* - some people 
want internet tablets and that's life - but perhaps a GTA2.5 is an answer...

It probably isn't, but the ideas there. :)

Tim

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