Re: Where is the tangoGPS community? (was: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator)
On Saturday 10 April 2010 15:59:04 Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > I have a set of patches, already--what should I do with them? > Where should I post them for posterity? Where is the mailing list? > Is there an IRC channel? Is there a wiki? Is there a bug-tracker? > Is there a public version-control archive? Where are all of these things? No. Just email your patches to Marcus Bauer. Expect no reply nor use of patches. But, you don't have the right to complain. You have the right to fork, though. grtz, Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where is the tangoGPS community? (was: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator)
Apologies for reviving a 3-month-old thread I'm not actually interested in the `Marcus vs. Risto' fight; but this thread did raise some questions for me about how I should go about being part of to the tangoGPS developer community, myself--mainly, *is* there actually a developer community, and where is it? More specifically...: Marcus Bauer writes: > > On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:12:45 +0100 > Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > > > > I think it was nothing else just a desperate try to build a > > community around tangogps [...] > > as apparently you failed to do it. > > Ah, allrighty! It is just that tangoGPS has a community of more than > 100.000 users, of more than 25 distributions, of people packaging it, > people twittering about it, people blogging about it, people discussing > it in forums... > > The tangoGPS friendservice has been used almost half a million times and > the messaging is frequently used too. > > There has been an article on Linux.com about tangoGPS and another one in > the Linux Magazine. > > I'd say the tangoGPS community is bigger than the openmoko community :-P Those are all measures only of an end-user community. Having a large, thriving end-user community *is* excellent, and also important--so I'd like to both congratulate you and thank you for that accomplishment! However: I'd like to know where the *developer* community is for tangoGPS-- and please don't take that the wrong way, there's nothing backhanded in that remark; really, I'm interested in developing tangoGPS, and communicating and collaborating with other likeminded people. I have a set of patches, already--what should I do with them? Where should I post them for posterity? Where is the mailing list? Is there an IRC channel? Is there a wiki? Is there a bug-tracker? Is there a public version-control archive? Where are all of these things? -- "Don't be afraid to ask (λf.((λx.xx) (λr.f(rr." ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:00:20 + Neil Jerram wrote: > On 6 January 2010 11:11, Neil Jerram > wrote: > > > > line. (I plan to make a donation shortly.) > > Finally getting around to this - but I don't see a Donate button > anywhere on the tangogps website. Is there a donation mechanism? > > Thanks, > Neil Hello Neil, So far I have added the donation button occasionally under the release notes but now I have added one to the left sidebar. Best regards, Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On 6 January 2010 11:11, Neil Jerram wrote: > > line. (I plan to make a donation shortly.) Finally getting around to this - but I don't see a Donate button anywhere on the tangogps website. Is there a donation mechanism? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
Hi Joseph, thanks for your words, they are very much appreciated! Marcus On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:48:54 + Joseph Reeves wrote: > > I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on > > it so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a > > rather successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 > > distributions and it has far more than 100.000 happy users in > > pretty much every corner of the world. > > I honestly believe that if it wasn't for TangoGPS, and therefore > yourself Marcus, the initial uptake of the Openmoko devices would have > been much slower. This community owes a great deal to your hard work. > OpenStreetMap has probably benefited too as well. TangoGPS > demonstrated that the Neo1973 and FreeRunner were (are) viable > platforms and that there was (is) value to be gained from a phone > running Open Source software. By "demonstrated" I mean that you could > give the phone to someone, have them walk around outside, and they'd > come back excited about what could be done. > > I remember getting an engineering sample of the FreeRunner and having > many email conversations with Markus about getting TangoGPS to run on > it. It wasn't exactly hard, but I was known to make a mistake or two > along the way; at least in the end TangoGPS was about the first > application I ran on the FreeRunner and I was, I think, the first > person to ever do it. Thankfully Openmoko inc saw the value and sent > Marcus a phone too. > > Thanks for all your contributions Marcus, we all owe you a lot, even > if some people fail to realise that. > > Cheers, Joseph > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:12:45 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Marcus Bauer > wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:36:21 +0200 > > "Risto H. Kurppa" wrote: > > > >> The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong. > > > > The community did already: Risto Kurppa, you have been sending me > > your massively abusive emails after the release of 0.9.3. They were > > so far beyond anything acceptable that I > > > > a) got a lawyer in Helsinki to deal with you and > > b) informed the Ubuntu Community Council. > > I think it was nothing else just a desperate try to build a > community around tangogps I probably repeat myself: open source / free software is build upon a meritocracy. The more you contribute, the more influence you do have. And actually in one way or other it is pretty much everywhere in life like this. If you haven't shown any regular support of a project or group than common sense should tell you that you wont be accepted as community manager. Freenode has exactly for that the policy that only people affiliated with a project can register project channels. And freenode is the core of many communities. > as apparently you failed to do it. Ah, allrighty! It is just that tangoGPS has a community of more than 100.000 users, of more than 25 distributions, of people packaging it, people twittering about it, people blogging about it, people discussing it in forums... The tangoGPS friendservice has been used almost half a million times and the messaging is frequently used too. There has been an article on Linux.com about tangoGPS and another one in the Linux Magazine. I'd say the tangoGPS community is bigger than the openmoko community :-P Now let's compare that to Risto Kurppa, who wrote in his mail two days ago: "In co-operation with the Open Source Geospatial Foundation I started a mailing list to discuss FOSS-GPS related topics to connect the users & developers:". This sounds good, no politician could say it any better. But if you look into the list archive you see that there are three positing in the last month: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss-gps/2009-December/date.html Not exactly a vibrant community that he has created in over a year. "In co-operation with the Open Source Geospatial Foundation..." BlaBla. Talk is cheap. It needs sustained work and commitment to get a community of the ground. > Risto was and are a very active mailing list member, had some > very useful comments here, what I think many users > appreciated. Which is no excuse for misbehaviour. > I do believe there was some small misunderstanding in > your email exchanges. Certainly not. The Ubuntu Community Council didn't take it lightly either. > As for the lawyer part, Im really sorry, you needed hire a lawyer > in a foreign country. I hope you didnt spent to much money on > it and also I hope you enjoyed the trip to Helsinki. > > However I usually dont hire any lawyers, if I receive some spams > in my inbox. But everyone are free to do in his/her way. That's exactly what I do too with spam. However Risto Kurppa didn't leave me any choice. He set a deadline until which I have to respond to him or elsewise he would go public with his diffamations. And yet I'd still drop this kind of email into the spam folder but next day he showed up on planet ubuntu and at this point the fun ends. That guy simply didn't stop and that's when I notified the Ubuntu Community Council and contacted a lawyer -- btw, they have phones in Helsinki nowadays, no need to go there. A word about the "usage of lawyers": they are a lot more useful (and cheaper) for getting legal advice than for sueing somebody. It is a good idea to go and get early advice with precise questions than to wait until a situation is out of control. By definition and statistics they have a success rate of 50:50 when they sue. -- How was that with throwing a coin? Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:36:21 +0200 > "Risto H. Kurppa" wrote: > >> The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong. > > The community did already: Risto Kurppa, you have been sending me your > massively abusive emails after the release of 0.9.3. They were so far > beyond anything acceptable that I > > a) got a lawyer in Helsinki to deal with you and > b) informed the Ubuntu Community Council. I think it was nothing else just a desperate try to build a community around tangogps as apparently you failed to do it. What you should have to do, is simply make clear, you dont want anybody else to make a community around your project. Risto was and are a very active mailing list member, had some very useful comments here, what I think many users appreciated. I do believe there was some small misunderstanding in your email exchanges. As for the lawyer part, Im really sorry, you needed hire a lawyer in a foreign country. I hope you didnt spent to much money on it and also I hope you enjoyed the trip to Helsinki. However I usually dont hire any lawyers, if I receive some spams in my inbox. But everyone are free to do in his/her way. Im pretty sure (as you made clear), Risto wont do any private mailing/harassment with you in the future. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
> I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it > so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather > successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and > it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of > the world. I honestly believe that if it wasn't for TangoGPS, and therefore yourself Marcus, the initial uptake of the Openmoko devices would have been much slower. This community owes a great deal to your hard work. OpenStreetMap has probably benefited too as well. TangoGPS demonstrated that the Neo1973 and FreeRunner were (are) viable platforms and that there was (is) value to be gained from a phone running Open Source software. By "demonstrated" I mean that you could give the phone to someone, have them walk around outside, and they'd come back excited about what could be done. I remember getting an engineering sample of the FreeRunner and having many email conversations with Markus about getting TangoGPS to run on it. It wasn't exactly hard, but I was known to make a mistake or two along the way; at least in the end TangoGPS was about the first application I ran on the FreeRunner and I was, I think, the first person to ever do it. Thankfully Openmoko inc saw the value and sent Marcus a phone too. Thanks for all your contributions Marcus, we all owe you a lot, even if some people fail to realise that. Cheers, Joseph 2010/1/7 Marcus Bauer : > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:36:21 +0200 > "Risto H. Kurppa" wrote: > >> The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong. > > The community did already: Risto Kurppa, you have been sending me your > massively abusive emails after the release of 0.9.3. They were so far > beyond anything acceptable that I > > a) got a lawyer in Helsinki to deal with you and > b) informed the Ubuntu Community Council. > > The Ubuntu Community Council consists of experienced and well > respected members of the open source community and the council was very > concerned about your behaviour, Risto Kurppa. The reply was written by a > certain well known 'Mark Shuttleworth' from which I guess I can cite the > following quote: > > | Thanks for raising this with us. The language he has used is very > | unfortunate, it does come across as "I will embarrass you unless you > | respond the way I want you to", and that's not something we could > | support in an Ubuntu member. > > I have nothing to add to that. > > The fact that you have registered #tangogps on freenode against the > policy that only people affiliated with the project shall register a > channel and after your inadequate behaviour in the past is thus pure > provocation. > > Open source / free software is a meritocracy - the more you do for a > project the more you can influence it. Actually writing friendly emails > gains everyone quickly influence. Writing abusive emails like you > did to me a year ago, Risto Kurppa, certainly does not gain you > influence. > > I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it > so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather > successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and > it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of > the world. > > Just have a look how many projects are on sourceforge that are 0.0.1 > alpha and never took off. I'd say less than 5% of the projects come to > life and stay alive for more than 2 years. It needs dedication, energy > and cojones to get a project off the ground. And a good deal of the > ernergy comes from people using it, from people sending feedback, from > people spreading the word because they like it. > > Thanks to all those that have one way or other contributed to tangoGPS > - your energy was and is well appreciated and put to good use :) > > > Marcus Bauer > Developer of tangoGPS - the fast and user friendly map viewer > http://www.tangogps.org/ > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:36:21 +0200 "Risto H. Kurppa" wrote: > The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong. The community did already: Risto Kurppa, you have been sending me your massively abusive emails after the release of 0.9.3. They were so far beyond anything acceptable that I a) got a lawyer in Helsinki to deal with you and b) informed the Ubuntu Community Council. The Ubuntu Community Council consists of experienced and well respected members of the open source community and the council was very concerned about your behaviour, Risto Kurppa. The reply was written by a certain well known 'Mark Shuttleworth' from which I guess I can cite the following quote: | Thanks for raising this with us. The language he has used is very | unfortunate, it does come across as "I will embarrass you unless you | respond the way I want you to", and that's not something we could | support in an Ubuntu member. I have nothing to add to that. The fact that you have registered #tangogps on freenode against the policy that only people affiliated with the project shall register a channel and after your inadequate behaviour in the past is thus pure provocation. Open source / free software is a meritocracy - the more you do for a project the more you can influence it. Actually writing friendly emails gains everyone quickly influence. Writing abusive emails like you did to me a year ago, Risto Kurppa, certainly does not gain you influence. I have founded tangogps and spent over 2000 hours of development on it so quite naturally I am the SABDFL of tangogps. And it is a rather successful project: it has been picked up by over 25 distributions and it has far more than 100.000 happy users in pretty much every corner of the world. Just have a look how many projects are on sourceforge that are 0.0.1 alpha and never took off. I'd say less than 5% of the projects come to life and stay alive for more than 2 years. It needs dedication, energy and cojones to get a project off the ground. And a good deal of the ernergy comes from people using it, from people sending feedback, from people spreading the word because they like it. Thanks to all those that have one way or other contributed to tangoGPS - your energy was and is well appreciated and put to good use :) Marcus Bauer Developer of tangoGPS - the fast and user friendly map viewer http://www.tangogps.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:58:42 -0800 (PST) vancel35 wrote: > Marcus Bauer wrote: > > > >> I've looked inside the TangoGPS config file > >> (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see any options > >> to set the font size. > > > I was in vi, and if I don't change anything, I always do a :q! to lose > anything that might have accidentally changed. On the desktop gconf-editor is a good tool for editing keys. On the freerunner it pulls in too many dependencies and doesn't fit well on the screen. > Did you change anything in the position / speed algorithm? It > doesn't seem to have as much jitter when stopped as it did before. At one point I added some code to prevent it from updating when the speed hasn't changed to prevent the flickering. But that was already a few releases ago. > Keep up the good work. TangoGPS is an awesome program. :) Thanks :) Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
Marcus Bauer wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:39:53 -0800 (PST) > vancel35 wrote: > >> >> I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS has >> increased the font size for the speed display on the map screen. > > Nope. I just had a quick look: it was 72pt in the beginning and now is > at 60pt since version 0.9.8. > You mention the DPI in other posts, so that may be what's happening. I always update the DPI to make everything smaller, and this time I reflashed didn't change it. I'll have to update my DPI when I leave work today and see if the speed font is smaller. However, it would still be nice if it were configurable. :D The larger issue about DPI is that everything is too big on the screen. I like the icons to be finger-friendly, but the text below them doesn't need to be readable from across the room... but that's not what we're discussing here... just an explanation why I always fiddle with the DPI. ;) Marcus Bauer wrote: > >> I've looked inside the TangoGPS config file >> (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see any options to >> set the font size. > > You should never fiddle with a text editor anything in ~/.gconf - bad > things may happen. > > I'll add an option for configuring it. > > Regards, > Marcus > I was in vi, and if I don't change anything, I always do a :q! to lose anything that might have accidentally changed. I learned my lesson long ago. Did you change anything in the position / speed algorithm? It doesn't seem to have as much jitter when stopped as it did before. But I've also updated my distro of SHR-U to the December 5th release, so it may have been something upstream or maybe just a coincidence. Keep up the good work. TangoGPS is an awesome program. :) -Laura -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/TangoGPS-font-size-for-speed-indicator-tp4256370p4263566.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:52:13 +0200 > "Risto H. Kurppa" wrote: > >> As there are now many Tangogps patches that seem to struggle to get to >> the official tangogps > > Stop your FUDing, Risto. There is a great video about poisonous people > on google lectures made by the devs of svn and you, Risto, are certainly > one of them. It must be this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE Looks interesting, I'll watch it some day. > You haven't done anything for tangogps but molesting me and spreading > FUD where ever possible. You haven't even done a translation which > needs no programming skills whatsoever. It's true, I haven't contributed to the code nor translations, Timo Jyrinki translated Tangogps into Finnish. Kustomizer, the script I wrote to turn OM2008.12 into full distro, installed Tangogps (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer I don't have stats from longer period, but the various versions of the script have been downloaded 5 times already in January 2010 although Kustomizer's been discontinued for almost 10 months already.. Stop using it people, go to SHR! ;) I reviewed Tangogps, liked it a lot and gave it good grades: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/2008/09/freerunner-compatible-gps-software/ (178 hits) I passed on the word about a new release to the Freerunner community: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/028535.html In co-operation with the Open Source Geospatial Foundation I started a mailing list to discuss FOSS-GPS related topics to connect the users & developers: http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/2008/09/a-mailing-list-for-the-floss-gps-community/ (tangogps linked, 675 hits) http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/invitation-for-all-open-source-gps-software-developers-and-users-to-join-foss-gps-mailing-list (671 hits) > Not enough that you have been harrassing me in private mails to a point > that I was close to stop development on tangoGPS you have now hijacked > #tangogps in freenode against the policies of freenode.net. Yes, I started the IRC channel and now feel very sorry for doing it. http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/2009/11/two-new-irc-channels-tangogps-and-smile-slideshow/ (255 hits) I did it to enable the users & devels to discuss it real time. We've had some nice discussion there about some new tools other users have written and helped other Tangogps users for example to configure map repositories. When I started the channel, I notified you about it (e-mail 11/15/09) asking you to join so I could pass on the admin rights to you. At that time, I didn't know you need to be the author or similar to start a channel at Freenode. When someone pointed that out to me, I was immediately co-operative to do whatever's needed to get things straight. So if you think it's the best, I can leave the channel any time, but I cannot force other people to do the same. > It is poisous people like you who only talk and demand in an > offensive way but never do anything. Thank you Marcus for Tangogps. It's still maybe the most used single application I use on my Freerunner. The community shall be the judge and point me where did I go wrong. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:50:49 +0800 William Kenworthy wrote: > On the FR in landscape mode, the digits (at anything over 100km/h - > (spent two long days travelling at ~110km/h speed recently!) take up > almost a quarter of the screen (in X and Y) - I just tried with the > suggested patch/change and a global_font_scale of "40" was still a bit > large. "30" is perhaps a touch small (text height is the same as the > buttons), but I'll live with it for awhile and see how it goes. Can you put up somewhere a screenshot or send me one? It really differs from distro to distro... > One plus, the display updates are now smooth and almost unnoticeable - > before the screen would often partially update and then catch up a > couple of seconds later. > > The changing to red at 50km/h affects the visibility of the digits at > the smaller sizes and is a pretty useless thing anyway (our limit is > 110kmh in the country, 60 on city roads and 50 in backstreets so you > hardly ever/rarely stay in the black zone - kinda defeats the > purpose!). A presettable limit would be nice. Ah yes. I have totally forgotten about it. I can add that in too. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
2010/1/6 William Kenworthy : > > This is my most used GPS app and the digit size is my only real beef > with it - it works well. I'd like to second that. tangogps (+ GPRS) was fantastically useful during my post-Christmas tour of the relatives. The new routing function especially rocks. I just set it up, hand the phone to my wife or 6 year old son, and they just make sure we stay on the green line. (I plan to make a donation shortly.) > The changing to red at 50km/h [...] Just an amusing note here... The changing to red thing happens at 50 even when the speed is in _miles_ per hour. It would make better sense for the change to happen at 30mph, since 30mph is (roughly) the same as 50km/h. Finally, FWIW, on Debian I haven't noticed any problem with the font size. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 10:23 +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:10:21 +0800 > Bill wrote: > > > I gave feed back to Martin that the digits were too large (the > > tangogps developer) > > Hi Borat, I will tell Martin once I meet him :p > > > but the > > digits keep getting bigger each version (it seems :( > > They got smaller. I may change them from point to pixel size so they > remain the same indepentenly of changing screen dpi settings of the > distribution. > > > Marcus > heh heh, sorry, I should have looked up your name to be sure. This is my most used GPS app and the digit size is my only real beef with it - it works well. On the FR in landscape mode, the digits (at anything over 100km/h - (spent two long days travelling at ~110km/h speed recently!) take up almost a quarter of the screen (in X and Y) - I just tried with the suggested patch/change and a global_font_scale of "40" was still a bit large. "30" is perhaps a touch small (text height is the same as the buttons), but I'll live with it for awhile and see how it goes. One plus, the display updates are now smooth and almost unnoticeable - before the screen would often partially update and then catch up a couple of seconds later. The changing to red at 50km/h affects the visibility of the digits at the smaller sizes and is a pretty useless thing anyway (our limit is 110kmh in the country, 60 on city roads and 50 in backstreets so you hardly ever/rarely stay in the black zone - kinda defeats the purpose!). A presettable limit would be nice. These things are always a tradeoff with different users having different ideas so user preferences would be the best way to go I think. a shr-t ipk with global_font_scale=30 is at "http://wdk.dyndns.org/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/tangogps_0.99.1-r0.4_armv4t.ipk"; for the adventurous :) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:52:13 +0200 "Risto H. Kurppa" wrote: > As there are now many Tangogps patches that seem to struggle to get to > the official tangogps Stop your FUDing, Risto. There is a great video about poisonous people on google lectures made by the devs of svn and you, Risto, are certainly one of them. Not enough that you have been harrassing me in private mails to a point that I was close to stop development on tangoGPS you have now hijacked #tangogps in freenode against the policies of freenode.net. You haven't done anything for tangogps but molesting me and spreading FUD where ever possible. You haven't even done a translation which needs no programming skills whatsoever. It is poisous people like you who only talk and demand in an offensive way but never do anything. You have aggressed me when I put the donate button on the website but rest assured I have got less dontations overall than Dr. Lauer has earned in one single week while working for openmoko. And yet tangogps is apart from the phone functions the most used app on the Freerunner. It is poisonous people like you who make developers turn their back to open source / free software. Nobody likes to constantly being pissed on. But luckily there are many people who appreciate all the work that developers of open source / free software do for them. The countless hours they spend without being paid. The idealism and the motivation they have. tangoGPS today is what it is because of it users. Because of those users that appreciate it. Because of those users who send in their friendly feedback. Because of those users who do an effort of getting it to run on an older version of an eeePC. Because of packagers doing a great job of packaging it. Because of translators translating it. Because of people writing their experiences with it. Because of people donating 5$ for buying me a virtual pizza. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:10:21 +0800 Bill wrote: > I gave feed back to Martin that the digits were too large (the > tangogps developer) Hi Borat, I will tell Martin once I meet him :p > but the > digits keep getting bigger each version (it seems :( They got smaller. I may change them from point to pixel size so they remain the same indepentenly of changing screen dpi settings of the distribution. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 09:39:53 -0800 (PST) vancel35 wrote: > > I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS has > increased the font size for the speed display on the map screen. Nope. I just had a quick look: it was 72pt in the beginning and now is at 60pt since version 0.9.8. > I've looked inside the TangoGPS config file > (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see any options to > set the font size. You should never fiddle with a text editor anything in ~/.gconf - bad things may happen. I'll add an option for configuring it. Regards, Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
As there are now many Tangogps patches that seem to struggle to get to the official tangogps - would it be possible to collect them all on a single (wiki?) page? Maybe even provide a new .ipk with these patches - I for example don't have the skills to compile it again for some patches.. Just to make the patches usable for as many as possible. r On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:10 AM, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 18:55 +0100, Stefan Fröbe wrote: >> Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues >> and changed it in my geocaching patch: >> >> >> change this line in src/gps_functions.c after >> setting global_font_scale to sth like 40: >> >> >> @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw) >> layout = pango_layout_new (context); >> desc = pango_font_description_new(); >> >> - pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE); >> + pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE * >> global_font_scale /100); >> pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc); >> pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer)); >> >> >> >> HTH, Stefan >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, vancel35 >> wrote: >> >> I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS >> has increased >> the font size for the speed display on the map screen. I >> don't need or want >> it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now. I've looked >> inside the >> TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I >> couldn't see >> any options to set the font size. Although I have to admit >> that some of the >> config option names are slightly cryptic. >> >> Is there a setting to reduce the font size? >> >> Thanks for any info. >> >> -Laura >> -- > > This could be a very useful fix! I am currently rebuilding tangogps but > one thing I am not sure of - where do you "after setting > global_font_scale to sth like 40"? > > I gave feed back to Martin that the digits were too large (the tangogps > developer) about the font size on early versions, but the digits keep > getting bigger each version (it seems :( > > Here, many road systems run nw->sw so its real display stealer when > driving. > > BillK > > > > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 18:55 +0100, Stefan Fröbe wrote: > Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues > and changed it in my geocaching patch: > > > change this line in src/gps_functions.c after > setting global_font_scale to sth like 40: > > > @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw) > layout = pango_layout_new (context); > desc= pango_font_description_new(); > > - pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE); > + pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE * > global_font_scale /100); > pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc); > pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer)); > > > > HTH, Stefan > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, vancel35 > wrote: > > I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS > has increased > the font size for the speed display on the map screen. I > don't need or want > it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now. I've looked > inside the > TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I > couldn't see > any options to set the font size. Although I have to admit > that some of the > config option names are slightly cryptic. > > Is there a setting to reduce the font size? > > Thanks for any info. > > -Laura > -- This could be a very useful fix! I am currently rebuilding tangogps but one thing I am not sure of - where do you "after setting global_font_scale to sth like 40"? I gave feed back to Martin that the digits were too large (the tangogps developer) about the font size on early versions, but the digits keep getting bigger each version (it seems :( Here, many road systems run nw->sw so its real display stealer when driving. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
Stefan Fröbe wrote: > > Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues and > changed it in my geocaching patch: > > change this line in src/gps_functions.c after setting global_font_scale to > sth like 40: > > @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw) > layout = pango_layout_new (context); > desc= pango_font_description_new(); > > - pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE); > + pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE * > global_font_scale /100); > pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc); > pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer)); > > > HTH, Stefan > I haven't installed the OM development stack yet, and I haven't installed the geocaching patch. Since PANGO_SCALE looks like a global variable, I tried to find a global pango config file, and I couldn't find anything. I tried to set the PANGO_SCALE as a global shell variable, and no luck. In your code snippet, it seems like that hard-coded "60" should be a user-definable variable from the config screen or at least a config file. I guess it's time for me to install the OM dev kit. Thanks for the info. :) -Laura -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/TangoGPS-font-size-for-speed-indicator-tp4256370p4256921.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
Don't know about any configuration options, but had the same issues and changed it in my geocaching patch: change this line in src/gps_functions.c after setting global_font_scale to sth like 40: @@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ osd_speed(gboolean force_redraw) layout = pango_layout_new (context); desc= pango_font_description_new(); - pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE); + pango_font_description_set_size (desc, 60 * PANGO_SCALE * global_font_scale /100); pango_layout_set_font_description (layout, desc); pango_layout_set_text (layout, buffer, strlen(buffer)); HTH, Stefan On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, vancel35 wrote: > > I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS has increased > the font size for the speed display on the map screen. I don't need or > want > it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now. I've looked inside the > TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see > any options to set the font size. Although I have to admit that some of > the > config option names are slightly cryptic. > > Is there a setting to reduce the font size? > > Thanks for any info. > > -Laura > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/TangoGPS-font-size-for-speed-indicator-tp4256370p4256370.html > Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TangoGPS font size for speed indicator
I've noticed that each version that I've upgraded of TangoGPS has increased the font size for the speed display on the map screen. I don't need or want it to take up 1/4 of the screen as it does now. I've looked inside the TangoGPS config file (~.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml), but I couldn't see any options to set the font size. Although I have to admit that some of the config option names are slightly cryptic. Is there a setting to reduce the font size? Thanks for any info. -Laura -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/TangoGPS-font-size-for-speed-indicator-tp4256370p4256370.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
