Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Jeff Miles
Thank you, so I'm not that out of date. I like my Mac mail client much for what you said. The web site is loading all the garbage. My email client isn't. Plus you have to click all around on a web based email to get it to do anything. If you have 10 or 15 emails that's no big thing. But

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread db
That sounds counter-intuitive... like you had a corrupt email client or something... Clients would always be technically faster than any kind of web service... and your webmail would be operating over the same DSL line to boot. db mike wrote: I switched from a local client to a web one

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Tony B
Yes, after you confirm that each one is valid, gmail happily forges the From: headers. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: If you have forwarded three ATT.net mail accounts to it however, will it also let you send from within Gmail as any of those ATT.net addresses?

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread db
It forges the header instead of routing the sendmail thru the other's SMTP server? db Tony B wrote: Yes, after you confirm that each one is valid, gmail happily forges the From: headers. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:16 AM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: If you have forwarded three ATT.net mail

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Jeff Wright
What in the world are you talking about? Everything in my Inbox is listed by time received. But everything in my Cguys 'folder' is listed by thread *and* time received. If you have multiple messages in a single subject, it's all crammed into one header in the inbox. There's no option to view

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Jeff Wright
POP is faster because it doesn't have to do folder sync ... it just sends whatever it's got in the inbox folder when it's polled. A lot less to do so it happens faster. There seems to be a bit of confusion on mail protocols. POP3 is intended only to retrieve messages from mailboxes,

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Jeff Wright
It forges the header instead of routing the sendmail thru the other's SMTP server? As I understand it, you're using Gmail as an authorized relay. It will also insert on behalf of x...@gmail.com into the sending header to keep it kosher. At least that what Gmail did for me when I was using the

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 14, 2009, at 12:59 AM, db wrote: Yeh, I've notice the AJAX web mail clients are fast ... especially if they are running on Chrome. Especially if they are not running IE. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread mike
I moved and was forced from cable to DSL...this is when I made the switch to web mail. DSL is horrid. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:06 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: That sounds counter-intuitive... like you had a corrupt email client or something... Clients would always be technically faster than

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Tony B
Correct. Very handy for those of us with multiple businesses. This works great for replies; the only problem occurs when I compose a new email and forget to select the proper From addy. Then it goes out as my default x...@gmail.com, but so far no recipient has seemed too shocked by it. On Tue,

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Tony B
Clearly you're confusing gmail's threaded view with Outlook's old Subject view. I know superficially they may be similar, but not once since I switched have I ever had a desire to turn off threaded view. I have, however, seen different sorts requested of gmail from time to time, but to read all

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Jeff Wright
Clearly you're confusing gmail's threaded view with Outlook's old Subject view. I know superficially they may be similar, but not once since I switched have I ever had a desire to turn off threaded view. I have, however, seen different sorts requested of gmail from time to time, but to read

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 14, 2009, at 11:19 AM, mike wrote: I moved and was forced from cable to DSL...this is when I made the switch to web mail. DSL is horrid. Maybe *your* DSL is horrid, but it is technically a superior way to deliver data. Maybe you need to get something fixed?

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread db
There are different speeds/ price ranges of DSL usually available and it is possible that something only needs to be fixed/ repaired with yours. DSL isn't necessarily slower than cable. Also I am confused about why moving your mail to the web would have improved the horrid connection

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread db
I haven't used it that way yet ...as an authorized relay but I guess that's what I am considering. Before doing so, I am researching possible issues that might arise if I was to set up a Gmail IMAP account that would have several email addresses forwarded to it. One of them would be from a

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread mike
Technically superior on paper means zip in real life. DSL's highest speed is 6+ mbit, when cable here delivers 15+ mbit on the high end and at the lowest 12mbit, how technically superior 6+ mbit is falls by the wayside. DSL is old, outdated tech and as I've said before, the idea that cable is

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Tony B
Not that I'm aware of. I guess you could make a sig that would do it if you wanted it though. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: In neither case would a  on behalf of x...@gmail.com footer be desirable (Is that a mandatory Gmail thing?).

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread t.piwowar
On Jul 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, mike wrote: DSL is old, outdated tech and as I've said before, the idea that cable is 'shared' is at least here, a canard. The technology used by the cable companies to squeeze data over their antiquated infrastructure is a lot more old-fashioned than DSL. That

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread db
No I would not want it. I thought someone said it might be mandatory with a Gmail account? db Tony B wrote: Not that I'm aware of. I guess you could make a sig that would do it if you wanted it though. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: In neither case would a

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread mike
I stick to the actual facts of what I got with cable and what I get with DSL. I don't really care about caps when DSL is so slow, the caps are built in. What you claim about cable being old tech is ridiculous. DSL runs over copper lines installed decades ago, cable hasn't been around that long.

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Jeff Wright
No I would not want it. I thought someone said it might be mandatory with a Gmail account? When I was using gmail as my SMTP server for my Treo, it would do that. They may have changed it in the couple years since then.

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-14 Thread Tony B
No. Be careful, there are a lot of people throwing random crap in this thread. Nobody's changing Subjects. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: No I would not want it.     I thought someone said it might be mandatory with a Gmail account? db Tony B wrote: Not that I'm

[CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various labels first and then a new local IMAP email client (like Thunderbird) second, when you connect for the first time your Labeled Google mail will show up/ download in Thunderbird as Folders with the same name as the labels. All

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:04 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: I know that if you set up a new Google Email account with various

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
Good point. Creature of habit I guess... To do that ... how would one transfer email stored by a email client software to a new google web email account? Need to have the existing 1 GB email store from a non google computer based email client account uploaded somehow ... which goes back to

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
I suppose you could mail yourself a big text file. Personally, I just kept the old client around a while until I was sure I didn't need it (but obviously I disabled the automatic mail checking). After a few months the older emails are of no interest except archival. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:39

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Gmail can import from a POP3 mailbox: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=21288Tony - sure, it might not be of interest except archival. But given the indexing tools you get with gmail... thats a

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
I don't think this is what he was asking. I thought he wanted to know how to get all his *old* emails out of tbird on his machine and into gmail. Once you're using gmail, there's no need for this Mail Fetcher, as you should just *forward* all your other accounts to gmail. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Wright
No, I haven't. But why are you trying to make it so complicated? The rage these days - for very good reasons - is simply to use your browser for email. No muss, no fuss. I don't like how Gmail organizes everything by thread, with no option to instead organize messages by time received.

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Jeff Miles
I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they are so easy to deal with in a fast email client as compared to using web mail. And this may be a stupid question. I used to be an ATT web service tech. That was almost 10 years ago. I've forgot

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
What in the world are you talking about? Everything in my Inbox is listed by time received. But everything in my Cguys 'folder' is listed by thread *and* time received. I'm not sure what you want - a folder full of cguys postings where the posts just flow randomly as people respond, rather than

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread Tony B
You really are dating yourself. The modern AJAX web mail clients are every bit as fast as a local client (since the code runs locally). This has been true for a couple years now. And they have added advantages e.g. Being able to access your email from multiple computers (home work), and

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
Yeh, I've notice the AJAX web mail clients are fast ... especially if they are running on Chrome. i suppose that is where the future is but I generally don't like webmail interfaces (too much clicking around...) as well as desktop clients, you have to look at advertising with most of the

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
POP is faster because it doesn't have to do folder sync ... it just sends whatever it's got in the inbox folder when it's polled. A lot less to do so it happens faster. db Jeff Miles wrote: I also find web mail so slow. I deal with hundreds of emails per day. Yes, mostly spam, but they

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
You mean if any of the mail in the Gmail webmail inbox is part of a thread, you have to look at it in threaded style by thread and date/time and the rest of the email shows up by date/time? Don't think I would like that. I like having the option and usually pick simple date/time display.

Re: [CGUYS] Google IMAP mail... does anyone know...?

2009-07-13 Thread db
I'm back and I see the thread has progressed without me. Thanks everyone for the info. Initially I was asking about moving a Tbird POP acct from a local ISP to a IMAP Gmail account and particularly if anyone knew if Gmail would accept archived mail folders from the old account and show them