Re: [CGUYS] Win7 walk-through
On the other hand, if W7 is working as well as you say, it strengthens the suspicion that W7 is just Vista warmed over. Um, even MS has said that Win7 isn't anything but a vastly improved Vista. That's kinda, sorta, ya know, why it looks like it. We still patch, patch, patch. By this standard, OS X is the one of the most insecure OSes available. Over the past year, not only has Apple been slower to patch OS X than MS has been with Windows, there have been significantly more known vulnerabilities. Note the word known. The black hat commnunity isn't shy about slamming MS. Do go on and on Thomas. This Olberman-level of vein-pulsing attack dog-ness fun to watch. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. ...snip... 2) You should never allow any antivirus program to mess with your email data. The data structure managed by your email program is complicated. Your antivirus program hacked at it with no knowledge of how these files are managed. It deleted the contents of a mail file, but may not have deleted the file itself and it certainly did not adjust the index file to match. So the email program's index is pointing to a file that is empty or not there. Hence a ghost file. This is the best argument I've seen for avoiding Apple's Mail program--the data structure is complicated, as in OE. It's not so complicated in Mozilla's Thunderbird, so fewer things are likely to go wrong. I dumped Apple Mail ages ago after using it for only a couple of weeks. Went back and tried it again last week and dumped it again. Have you backed up your email files this month? week? ever? Do you know where the preference/data files are located? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast internet speed question
That is the one thing that disappoints me lately. Sites that have not kept up. with the bandwidth. Stewart At 07:48 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: We have basic DSL. It's fast enough for viewing and downloading most files. For Netflix streaming movies, we have to wait for buffering about 15 minutes, then they play through. Three factors slow things down: - old computer; using our new ones makes a big difference in speed for Flash videos - bandwidth for servers where you're downloading larger files. Faster speed on your end won't make a difference there - neighbors [cable only]; cable is like a party line with shared bandwidth. speed slows down as more neighbors are online. It was noticeable when we had cable. May or may not be noticeable for you. Sure you'll like the faster speed, but I hate the outrageous price for higher speed. If I hadn't been places with 15-20Mbs service for $30 I wouldn't be so annoyed, but I can wait for more reasonable prices. For now, basic DSL is just fine. And it's not as fattening as dialup. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
This is the best argument I've seen for avoiding Apple's Mail program--the data structure is complicated, as in OE. It's not so complicated in Mozilla's Thunderbird, so fewer things are likely to go wrong. I dumped Apple Mail ages ago after using it for only a couple of weeks. Went back and tried it again last week and dumped it again. Not fair and not correct. Thunderbird and Apple Mail do virtually the same thing in this regard. Thunderbird uses mbox format. Apple Mail uses emlx format. Emlx stores one message per file within folders and these files can be accessed via the Finder -- viewed directly using QuickView or a variety of other ways. Mbox has a number of variations, but typically stores one folder per file. Mbox files can be viewed in any text viewer. Both email programs maintain a separate index file. Apple used to use mbox and still labels many files with an mbox extension, even though they are not mbox. I don't know why they do that. Perhaps they consider emlx to be just a further development of mbox? It is similar enough that one could argue for this. I don't think the Apple Mail team possesses the sharpest pencils, but it is not a bad product. Thunderbird is better in some cases, but the feature sets are not identical. Either is a fine choice depending on circumstances. Either mbox or emlx are in sharp contrast to what MS does: storing all emails in one huge, fragile database file that is constantly hit with changes and hard to back up (due to its potentially huge size and frequent changes). I just spent 10 hours recovering 100s of lost messages from a 2.5 GB MS database file. It was a brutal job. I'm now looking at alternatives for my client. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Comcast internet speed question
Sure you'll like the faster speed, but I hate the outrageous price for higher speed. If I hadn't been places with 15-20Mbs service for $30 I wouldn't be so annoyed, but I can wait for more reasonable prices. Good point and prices will not come down if sheeps pay big bucks for what costs the provider almost nothing to provide. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
What version changed the way they do it? I have simply gone into the right directory and restored mailboxes in Outlook with out a problem. having sid that I do not use it and prefer Eudora, the old Eudora not the new one. Stewart At 09:11 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: Not fair and not correct. Thunderbird and Apple Mail do virtually the same thing in this regard. Thunderbird uses mbox format. Apple Mail uses emlx format. Emlx stores one message per file within folders and these files can be accessed via the Finder -- viewed directly using QuickView or a variety of other ways. Mbox has a number of variations, but typically stores one folder per file. Mbox files can be viewed in any text viewer. Both email programs maintain a separate index file. Apple used to use mbox and still labels many files with an mbox extension, even though they are not mbox. I don't know why they do that. Perhaps they consider emlx to be just a further development of mbox? It is similar enough that one could argue for this. I don't think the Apple Mail team possesses the sharpest pencils, but it is not a bad product. Thunderbird is better in some cases, but the feature sets are not identical. Either is a fine choice depending on circumstances. Either mbox or emlx are in sharp contrast to what MS does: storing all emails in one huge, fragile database file that is constantly hit with changes and hard to back up (due to its potentially huge size and frequent changes). I just spent 10 hours recovering 100s of lost messages from a 2.5 GB MS database file. It was a brutal job. I'm now looking at alternatives for my client. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] comcast internet speed question
I got the 768 option and can change it upward if I'm not satisfied ...the price is too good! ...thanks for the good advice from everyone! -Original Message- From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: comcast internet speed question Are you a big movie/music/content downloader You will fine the speed difference a godsend. However it all depends on what you use the net for. We have the basic DSL setup at church.Just like what you got and I find it acceptable for what I do at church. NO need for superfast super anything it is a business and we do not download big files and a lot of content. At home I have a cable account that is 5 mps. I tried to get the DSL 6mps but they could not deliver on the speed. ( a frequent complaint I hear around here.) For what I do at home it is much more preferable. Stewart At 03:26 PM 11/4/2008, you wrote: I ordered cable for the first time in my life. I have had dialup...yeeech! I took the $25.95/mo 768kb (sorta like DSL) while my dialup usually gives me all of 23k (I want a 2mb file, I can make a sandwich and take a nap). Am I gonna hate it or shuddi get the 42.95/mo 6mb speed one ...on both they throw in the basic cable tv (ch2-23). First price is forever more or less ...second price is for a year. I can still change it since they won't install until thursday since the guy who came today said I need the heavy cable outside from pole to house which he doesn't carry so they hafta come tomorrow to put that in and then have the inside guy come back to do the rest...thoughts? Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] terabyte
If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, will it have the same 120gb limit due to my motherboard or what? If yes, then I would hafta divide it up into many partitions? My internal drive is a 160gb pata drive which had2 have 40gb partitioned off to see it. There's a 2nd hdd internal slot open ...if I put the 1tb drive in there, what would hafta be done then, multiple partitions? Any other solutions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
Two solutions (really three) 1.) Partition it up into 120 GB partitions and have 8 120 and one smaller (maybe you will not get a full 1TB but maybe 960 GB) 2.) Use an overlay program which will allow your computer to see the full drive. 3.) Buy a controller card that will allow you computer (It has it's own bios) to see the full drive. The most radical fix is get a new motherboard. Stewart At 10:44 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, will it have the same 120gb limit due to my motherboard or what? If yes, then I would hafta divide it up into many partitions? My internal drive is a 160gb pata drive which had2 have 40gb partitioned off to see it. There's a 2nd hdd internal slot open ...if I put the 1tb drive in there, what would hafta be done then, multiple partitions? Any other solutions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
One of the reasons I like the old Eudora (7.1) Recently I had a major failure on my desktop system. I ran something stupid and it corrupted my C: drive. Since I had recently upgraded my drives I still had my old drive handy. Not having time to get to it, I got the old drive and attached it using an ID-USB cable to another system and copied the Email directory to that computer and ran my Eudora while I was working on the old system. When I was done fixing my unit, I copied the directory back onto the drive preserving all email and folders etc. and ran it on the fixed system. No email lost and no problems. I always keep my email in a separate directory (Folders and all) on a data drive, not the C: drive. Stewart At 10:24 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote: What version changed the way they do it? I have simply gone into the right directory and restored mailboxes in Outlook with out a problem. having sid that I do not use it and prefer Eudora, the old Eudora not the new one. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, will it have the same 120gb limit due to my motherboard or what? No it will not. An external drive comes with its own disk controller in the drive's box. You are not using the controller on your motherboard so those limits do not apply. However, you OS may also place limits on addressability and those limits would apply. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] New Chip Technology Poses Threat to Homeland Securi
http://www.infopackets.com/news/government/2008/20081103_new_chip_technol ogy_poses_threat_to_homeland_security.htm Several months ago we had this discussion about the problems with RFID in passports. Looks like RSA Labs has now discovered what was obvious to us back then. Maybe RSA should be subscribing to the List? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
I have simply gone into the right directory and restored mailboxes in Outlook with out a problem. Nobody mentioned Outlook and with so many flavors of Outlook out there I don't have a clue about which Outlook you are referring to. Anyone want to clue us in to the formats various Outlooks use to store mailboxes. On the Exchange server my understanding is that they use one humongous and fragile database file. No? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, will it have the same 120gb limit due to my motherboard or what? No it will not. An external drive comes with its own disk controller in the drive's box. You are not using the controller on your motherboard so those limits do not apply. However, you OS may also place limits on addressability and those limits would apply. In fact, I saw a recent article on this. Infoworld or CNET or something. The writer went back to his original XP disc to reinstall on the new 1 TB drive. Apparently, the original XP could not see anything bigger than 120GB or so. So he had to create a slipstreamed XP disk with SP 2 on it. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Thanks, David, I rebuilt the individual account inboxes and the ghosts vanished instantaneously! Gosh, that was simple! Why didn't I think of expanding the Inbox?! Alvin On Nov 4, 2008, at 2:43 AM, David K Watson wrote: You are right that you can't rebuild the inbox. However, expand the inbox (click on the right-pointing triangle next to the inbox) and you should be able to rebuild each of the single account inboxes under the main inbox. If you rebuilt all your inboxes and all of your other mailboxes, you'll get back some space and you won't have the mismatch between messages showing and actual messages as often. I also second the idea of checking your mail via the web. I remember once having a similar type of problem that was caused because the message on the server immediately before the ghost message was corrupted in a way that the mail server couldn't handle. If you can, log into your account on the web and try deleting the ghost messages there as well as anything preceding them that looks suspicious. If that doesn't work, I'd try again to move the messages out and rebuilding the mailbox. This time try it t for just those messages in the problem account, and keep holding the mouse down over the new location when dragging them over until you can see that Mail is ready to move them, because Mail can be very slow in moving a lot of messages. This is particularly true for mailboxes that haven't been rebuilt in a while. Mathew, Thanks for the idea, but when I try to move the messages, they just bounce back to the Inbox. Also, Mail doesn't allow the Inbox to be rebuilt (at least on my machine!). It would be interesting if it's allowable on someone else's machine. Alvin On Nov 3, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: You might try moving all the messages out of the inbox into another local folder (you can always move them back if you want). With your inbox zeroed out, rebuild the mailbox. Use the web interface for your mail account to make certain the headers or entire messages are not still on the server - if they are, delete them there. Matthew On Nov 3, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Alvin Auerbach wrote: ClamXav 1.1.1 looked at Apple's Mail and found 2 incoming messages that were suspicious, and asked to delete them. I gave the okay, and the messages were moved to the computer's trash. However, the 2 messages are still listed in the Inbox. box. When I open them, they are blank - ghosts! When I delete them, they remain in the Inbox. When I drag them to another mailbox - Trash, Junk, anything, they remain in the Inbox. I used [command-delete]. Didn't work. I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. I checked Apple and Google, and found a problem like that with AOL mail, and the solution was to update the OS. Both my OS and my Mail program are the latest version. I found a reference to a similar problem, but their solution was to change the type of email account. Rebuild the Mailbox does not apply to the Inbox. I replaced the app from my Leopard disk. The message count is often wrong, but I ignored it. Is this a clue? I save most of my mail, and the size of my Mail folder is 1.45 GB. Is that a factor? Does anyone have any ideas on how to exorcise these ghost messages?! Alvin * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Michael, Thanks for the ideas. I tried the previous suggestion first (from David K. Watson) and it worked. Alvin On Nov 4, 2008, at 2:46 AM, Michael Lewis wrote: Alvin Auerbach sez: Mathew, Thanks for the idea, but when I try to move the messages, they just bounce back to the Inbox. Also, Mail doesn't allow the Inbox to be rebuilt (at least on my machine!). It would be interesting if it's allowable on someone else's machine. Alvin Download OnyX for the Mac OS you have: http://www.titanium.free.fr/index_us.html According to the thread here http://www.tidbits.com/webx?14@@.3cb7a1fc/ 1 it has a selection to force a rebuild of all mailboxes. Check that thread as there may be some other tips you can try as well. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Tom, Thanks for your suggestions. I'll turn off ClamXav. David K Watson sez: You are right that you can't rebuild the inbox. However, expand the inbox (click on the right-pointing triangle next to the inbox) and you should be able to rebuild each of the single account inboxes under the main inbox. I tried it, and it worked. Alvin On Nov 4, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. 1) You should not run antivirus software on your Mac because there are no Mac viruses. What ClamXav spotted were Windows viruses at most. You have no reason to worry about them. They won't spread. 2) You should never allow any antivirus program to mess with your email data. The data structure managed by your email program is complicated. Your antivirus program hacked at it with no knowledge of how these files are managed. It deleted the contents of a mail file, but may not have deleted the file itself and it certainly did not adjust the index file to match. So the email program's index is pointing to a file that is empty or not there. Hence a ghost file. 3) Two problem messages out of 1.45 GB of messages. Why are you spending any time on this? The odds are that in messing with this you will make things much worse. I would leave it alone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
Buy a PCI controller card. The new bus won't have the same size limit as the old one. My old Mac's internal bus limits drives to 128GB. The new card allowed me to use the 250GB drive internally instead of in an external case. If it's a PC, make sure it has adequate ventilation/fan. Might be better not to get the fastest drive/RPM. Read the fine print. If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, will it have the same 120gb limit due to my motherboard or what? If yes, then I would hafta divide it up into many partitions? My internal drive is a 160gb pata drive which had2 have 40gb partitioned off to see it. There's a 2nd hdd internal slot open ...if I put the 1tb drive in there, what would hafta be done then, multiple partitions? Any other solutions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
It is the interface (SATA or PATA) physically in the external drive case that determines what the computer sees when it looks at the hard drive in the external case (unless you are exceeding the limit of the OS). If it is a newly manufactured external case, you should have no problem. But if you are going to purchase a 1 TB hard drive it almost certainly will be a SATA drive. I don't believe I've seen any PATA drives larger than 320 GB for sale, although I couldn't for sure say they don't exist. I also don't believe I've seen any SATA drives that aren't 48-bit LBA. Maybe some very early ones were not. I would only buy a new, un-partitioned PATA drive today in circumstances in which it was being attached to a legacy motherboard or drive case for essential reasond. Fred Holmes At 11:44 AM 11/5/2008, rlsimon wrote: If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, will it have the same 120gb limit due to my motherboard or what? If yes, then I would hafta divide it up into many partitions? My internal drive is a 160gb pata drive which had2 have 40gb partitioned off to see it. There's a 2nd hdd internal slot open ...if I put the 1tb drive in there, what would hafta be done then, multiple partitions? Any other solutions? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
Buy a PCI controller card If I buy a 1tb external usb drive, Hey folks, this is a question about an *external* drive. You keep providing answers for *internal* drives. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] terabyte
In fact, I saw a recent article on this. Infoworld or CNET or something. The writer went back to his original XP disc to reinstall on the new 1 TB drive. Apparently, the original XP could not see anything bigger than 120GB or so. So he had to create a slipstreamed XP disk with SP 2 on it. That is XP (you know, the OS I recently called crappy.) The question is about OS X (which is less crappy). I have connected 1TB USB drives to OS X with no problems. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Help! Apple Mail Ghosts
Betty, Thanks for your suggestions. This is the first time that I've had such a problem. I'll try Thunderbird when I have some time. Have you backed up your email files this month? week? ever? I use Time Machine, so backups are made every hour. Do you know where the preference/data files are located? If that is com.apple.mail.plist then yes, I know where it is. Alvin On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:57 AM, betty wrote: I opened the Mail folder in my Home library, and dragged the INBOX.imapmbox folder to the desktop. Mail created another one, and the ghost messages remain, and the Messages folder with in the Inbox folder is empty. ...snip... 2) You should never allow any antivirus program to mess with your email data. The data structure managed by your email program is complicated. Your antivirus program hacked at it with no knowledge of how these files are managed. It deleted the contents of a mail file, but may not have deleted the file itself and it certainly did not adjust the index file to match. So the email program's index is pointing to a file that is empty or not there. Hence a ghost file. This is the best argument I've seen for avoiding Apple's Mail program--the data structure is complicated, as in OE. It's not so complicated in Mozilla's Thunderbird, so fewer things are likely to go wrong. I dumped Apple Mail ages ago after using it for only a couple of weeks. Went back and tried it again last week and dumped it again. Have you backed up your email files this month? week? ever? Do you know where the preference/data files are located? Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Odd Time Stamp Problem
Allen - You are exactly right; and MS's support forums show a lot of queries on this bizarre piece of engineering! Question - Can I use convert.exe in Vista to make the WD external drive an NTFS? Will it save my data? The drive is about 2/3 full. Thanks Quentin Fisher Bethesda, MD From: Allen Firstenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Date:Mon Nov 03 12:28:07 CST 2008 Subject: Re: Odd Time Stamp Problem Your Vista machine is probably using NTFS for its file system. Your external drive is probably using FAT32. NTFS handles DST correctly, while FAT32 does not. Solution is to upgrade the external drive to NTFS (or some other real file system). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
