True, the post office certainly has on many occasions.
Does anyone really stop and think what the post office does on a
daily basis? I have yet to find a privet company that has worked as
efficiently and consistently. And, being governmentally run, the post
office's goal isn't to
I forgot to add, hopefully you can depend on the USPS or some other
carrier to mail that deceased relative home who didn't get medical
care due to being non insured, under insured, or cut off by the insurer.
Why do people insist on defending these mafioso type companies that
do nothing but
Obama says his single payer will run like the post office...God help us
all..
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Ihave always been interested in health care as an MD and of course as a
patient. I am very surprised that this great Country will not adopt a Single
That was one of your fellow left wing nuts that did the biting off Tom. I'm
sure you will now justify it somehow.
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:59 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Marcio wrote:
Ihave always been interested in health care as an MD and of course as a
Obama says his single payer will run like the post office...God help us
all..
That really wasn't what he said, Mike. What he said was that FedEx and UPS
compete successfully with the USPS, proving that the right's claim that no
private insurer will be able to compete with a
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Rob wrote:
Installation Attempt # 2
Again, the installation appears to be proceeding normally to the
external 500 Gig drive with Grub installed to HD0. Once again, after
installation completes and
I agree with what you said but a few corrections.
DHL is the three letter name you are looking for German and has
closed up shop for a lot of things. (If I remember they are the ones
who closed up shop on an Ohio town?)
Also the USPS is a non government business. They were cut out of the
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:30 AM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote:
That was one of your fellow left wing nuts that did the biting off Tom. I'm
sure you will now justify it somehow.
The fellow who had the tip of his pinky bitten off, a Mr. Rice, an
opponent of healthcare reform, is the one who
And they pay pretty well also. Do not see any UPS drivers looking
for Food Stamps.
I do have a USPS worker in my congregation who is being retrained
right now due to shuffling of jobs, With the cut backs and attrition
in the USPS she is changing jobs and must go through months of
training
On Sep 6, 2009, at 12:53 AM Sep 6, chrper...@aol.com wrote:
Looking at my accounts, though, I find that one runs through May of
2010, and the other through October of 2010, so it may be a bit
before I actually make a switch. But I want to be sure, before I
switch, that I only have to do
I appreciate your faith. I guess the most distressing part of the
whole affair is seeing the wing nuts so ready to sell out their
country for a sack of gold. They support the ultra-rich insurance
barons, the M$s, the Comcasts, etc. and give the shiv to their fellow
citizens.
I'm really
On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:52 AM Sep 6, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
DHL is the three letter name you are looking for German and has
closed up shop for a lot of things. (If I remember they are the
ones who closed up shop on an Ohio town?)
DHL is going out of business because it was doing a
On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:50 AM Sep 6, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
The finger biter should be thankful that Mr. Rice was not one of the
numerous anti-reform types who carry firearms to these events.
65-year-old William Rice, who is covered under the Medicare program,
was taken to an area hospital.
On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:11 AM Sep 6, Jeff Miles wrote:
Why do people insist on defending these mafioso type companies that
do nothing but steal from them and then turn and complain about the
government wasting money? This kind of thought just baffles the
shit out of me.
It baffles the shit
On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:04 AM Sep 6, Jeff Miles wrote:
Does anyone really stop and think what the post office does on a
daily basis? I have yet to find a privet company that has worked as
efficiently and consistently. And, being governmentally run, the
post office's goal isn't to make a
This is standard wing-nut strategy to make government look bad.
Of course. The guvmint never does anything to look bad. It's all a vast,
right-wing conspiracy to undermine their natural efficiency.
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DHL is going out of business because it was doing a terrible job. The
foreign owners seemed unable to put an effective management team in
place in the USA. Their service was horribly unreliable. Instead of
working harder at fixing the problem they just decided to give up.
The German stock
If gov't programs aren't supposed to make money, can we at least ask they
don't LOSE so much?
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
True, the post office certainly has on many occasions.
Does anyone really stop and think what the post office does
Yeah we got SEIU members shouting down and pushing people around so they
can't practice their constitutional free speech, so why should they be aloud
to carry any guns and practice that right either? Go Go Government!
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:50 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:
You are right, he did not put it as I said it, I was being more tongue in
cheek. However I did see the question/answer and he was definitely making a
point that the USPS was not run well and got a chuckle from the audience.
In Obama's words 'It's the post office that's always having problems'
Yeah we got SEIU members shouting down and pushing people around so they
can't practice their constitutional free speech, so why should they be aloud
to carry any guns and practice that right either? Go Go Government!
No comment on the right-wing shouters at the town halls preventing others
What was that the sheep said in Animal Farm? Obaama good, republicans
bd.
Interesting insight...don't watch this if you are a narrow-minded zealot who
refuses to let the facts stand in the way of your opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W276ICvVAd4
On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:45 AM Sep 6, mike wrote:
If gov't programs aren't supposed to make money, can we at least
ask they
don't LOSE so much?
Simple. Just raise taxes.
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Maybe you need to put Tom in as part of your circle of friends : ))
No, I haven't tried it yet as it looks a little too public for me.
It looks like that there could be a substantial delay on when you get
your answers, depending on when someone chooses to respond, much like
this list.
Richard
Very true. Both sides have their agitators.
I do think it's insane that some representatives have refused to give any
time to their constituents when that is the very reason they have a month
off.
There is some merit to that point of view, but, at the same time, it seems like
a town hall
Brilliant! Socialism is great till you run out of everyone elses money.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:41 AM, TPiwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:45 AM Sep 6, mike wrote:
If gov't programs aren't supposed to make money, can we at least ask they
don't LOSE so much?
Simple. Just
The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,
reveals the company’s choice to change all typography to the Microsoft
font...
http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/
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The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,
reveals the company's choice to change all typography to the Microsoft
font...
http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/
Bingo! We have a winner.
IKEA spokeswoman Camilla Meiby responds to AP (Aug 31, 2009):
Tom do you retain ownership of the sites?
I have heard of some registration agents taking ownership of the site
when they register and then you are held hostage in the process.
You need to look closely.
What is the URL for 1and 1?
Stewart
At 09:12 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
Most hosts will
Not just the anti's.
I saw a report some time ago how much had been contributed to the
pro's in this whole debate.
Money is flowing all over the place.
Stewart
At 09:57 AM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
Because they own stock in these companies?
I would wager that an awful lot of the
Again very disingenuous.
You can make a choice in housing very simply. You either find a
house within your income bracket or you move.
Cant afford Steak, buy chicken and ground beef.
Been there done that.
Health care is not so easy. Very often people are frozen out of
health care because
I believe by law that the USPS is required to deliver mail to any
residence or business no matter where they are located within the US
and it's territories.
I know of no other country where the mail service is run by private
contractors?
(By the way in Canada they do contract out the
Everyone shots themselves in the foot sometimes.
Sometimes better than others.
The government is not perfect but neither are we.
Capitalism is not perfect either.
There are some things better handle under the capitalist strategy and
other things not.
Stewart
At 10:15 AM 9/6/2009, you
Sure are you ready to pay .80 a letter? $20 package and give up
Saturday delivery?
You cannot tell the Post office what they are allowed to charge and
then bitch about them losing money.
The USPS must go before Congress for every rate hike and then they
are limited on how much they can
On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 23:02 -0400, Vicky Staubly wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009, Rob wrote:
I posted this on an Ubuntu Linux list I subscribe to earlier today but
I've not yet gotten any useful responses. So, I thought I post it here
on the chance someone may be able to help. Here's hoping...
Again very disingenuous.
You can make a choice in housing very simply. You either find a
house within your income bracket or you move.
Cant afford Steak, buy chicken and ground beef.
Been there done that.
You miss my point, Rev. I expect that of Tom, but you?
We are being told that
Everyone shots themselves in the foot sometimes.
Sometimes better than others.
The government is not perfect but neither are we.
Capitalism is not perfect either.
There are some things better handle under the capitalist strategy and
other things not.
I find it odd that people look
I lived and worked in the USA for 30 years. Can´t complain. Became a citizen.
Love this Country. But in terms of health care I am perplexed how millionaire
adds have brainwashed a lot of good Americans to believe that what they have
now is good. And of course not to bother with the ones who
They will by popular pressure, as it happened in Canada. Read the history of
the Medicare in Canada.
Marcio
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Sent: Sep 6, 2009 1:35 AM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
But Americans
Funny, I lived in the USA for 30 years. You will not believe, I love the Post
Office. I never had ONE problem with them.
I think it is funny how conservative americans make the Post Office
scapegoats... why don´t you mention the Armed Forces, National Security, and so
many government agencies
Poeple are brainwashed in America, by big money. They are raised to believe
thar private is always better... Sad...
Marcio
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If the USPS was privatized no letters would arrive in non-profit routes... as a
matter of fact they would be closed. Like happens to patients under private
health insurance...
Marcio
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From: Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net
Sent: Sep 6, 2009 4:04 AM
To:
I am also losing faith in Obama... he is not standing up for what he believes.
He is afraid of big business. I understand, he is not independently wealthy
like JFK.
Marcio
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Sent: Sep 6, 2009 11:17 AM
To:
The beauty of the Single Payer is that we all will
share the risks. Isn´t this one of the reasons that we live in society?
That's what insurance is: risk pooling. It's also something I engage by
choice, not coercion.
I don't choose to be live in a society to be compelled, by the threat of
I pay less the $200/mo for food. Never really thought about food
costs being high. Of course no one is this household is obese. And we
eat steak twice a week. Chicken, pork and fish make up the other days.
I agree that housing costs are through the roof. No pun intended. But
I blame the
I see no conflicts having socialized programs in a capitalist country. As a
matter of fact I believe the world is moving in the direction.
Marcio
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Sent: Sep 6, 2009 3:52 PM
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Subject:
I was born and lived in Idaho for many years. I'm a strong supporter
of gun rights. But these idiots bring guns to a presidential speeches
need to be locked up just for being stupid. And to protect the rest of
us from their stupidity. I wonder if these people believe their gun
rights
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Sent: Sep 6, 2009 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Everyone shots themselves in the foot sometimes.
Sometimes better than others.
The government is not perfect but neither
Imagine if you had food insurance, you could eat steak every day!
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
I pay less the $200/mo for food. Never really thought about food
costs being high. Of course no one is this household is obese. And we eat
steak
The UK and Canada are moving away from socialized medicine, not towards it.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
I see no conflicts having socialized programs in a capitalist country. As a
matter of fact I believe the world is moving in the direction.
Marcio
2009/9/6 Jeff Morris jmor...@clarkswb.net writes:
Interesting insight...don't watch this if you are a narrow-minded zealot who
refuses to let the facts stand in the way of your opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W276ICvVAd4
So, here is Republican conservative Horowitz saying that the
This is such a stupid comment I've heard far to often.
Jeff Miles
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:04 AM, mike wrote:
Brilliant! Socialism is great till you run out of everyone elses
I believe those at the town hall meetings could do a lot to quiet
these agitators. If everyone there were to simply turn and stare at
the person shouting I'd bet they'd quit rather quickly.
Jeff Miles
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You did not understand me. I am not going to insist.
With all respect...
Marcio
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Sent: Sep 6, 2009 5:33 PM
To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
You don't seem to have a full grasp on capitalism. If
You are dreaming... try to take away from the British and the Canadians what
they have! Even Tatcher who privatized everything could not do it. You are
misinformed... Now don´t now come with reports from the right extremists
sites...
Marcio
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From: mike
No I get your point.
I have lived under both systems (Canada's and Ours)
I have a very compelling interest in this.
I think the right to purchase and get Insurance is a right!
The problem is that we have made insurance only something for someone
who can afford it and be eligible.
My
But you pay for us (USA) to have a military, public security, wars... roads and
much more. Are you being coerced?...Or...you are sharing?...
Marcio
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Subject: Re: [CGUYS]
I am still using the last upgrade of Eudora. Anyone with me? I went to Mozilla
and they naw have a Beta Eudora... Should I try?
Regards to all
Marcio
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I still use the last Eudora put out by Qualcomm. The one put out by
Mozilla (The Penelope Project) is just not the same.
It just not operate as nicely nor do the folders work as nicely.
I have used it but I stick with the old Eudora.
This once again goes with the assumption that a government health
care option would destroy all private insurance companies. While I'd
love to see this happen I doubt it would. Insurance companies are the
largest business in the world. I think it would take a whole lot more
then a
Why do so many believe this health OPTION would be forced on them?
What part of the word OPTION do these people not understand?
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
Who would have thought the unions and government would own a car
company 15 years ago?
Sent from my iPod
On Sep 6, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
This once again goes with the assumption that a government health
care option would destroy all private insurance
Really? Where's your proof of that?
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:34 PM, mike wrote:
The UK and Canada are moving away from socialized medicine, not
towards it.
On Sun, Sep
I think I heard somewhere that Insurance companies profits are up
1000% the past 7-10 years while rates have gone up 300% in the same time frame.
Someone is making money.
Our rates went up less than 5% this year, but they are very high to begin with.
Stewart
At 04:59 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
Yes, people without insurance, if they can afford the care, they are called
private patients and pay much more than the ones who are insured. The docs,
my colleagues, love them... In psychiatry, since the insurance coverage is so
minimal even people who can barelly afford go the private way...
That's just stupid, but we already have food insurance of a sorts.
They're called food stamps for those who can't afford food.
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, mike wrote:
There is another option. No insurance no health care.
In Canada they ask for your card. NO Card cash up front.
That way they are guaranteed they will be paid.
Everyone has insurance. You travel up there for a length of time,
you buy coverage (supplemental-who said private cannot compete)
I'm sure you can use the google as well as anyone.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
Really? Where's your proof of that?
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Why do so many believe this health OPTION would be forced on them?
What part of the word OPTION do these people not understand?
Do I need to point you to videos of Obama advocating a single payer plan or
to the current proponents who have proposed the same over the years?
This is a
But you pay for us (USA) to have a military, public security, wars... roads
and much more. Are you being coerced?...Or...you are sharing?...
The military is provided for explicitly in the US Constitution.
Roads are a given and again, are constitutionally provided, and with all due
respect,
Don't know, but this is a bad thing why? After all, you and I are the
government. I kind of like the idea of owning part of GM.
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Mike wrote:
Who
Cop out. If you make a statement, be prepared to back it up.
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:47 PM, mike wrote:
I'm sure you can use the google as well as anyone.
On Sun, Sep 6,
Roads are a given? And they're constitutionally provided? Where?
Please post that part of the constitution for me.
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Jeff Wright wrote:
But you pay
Jeff Miles wrote:
I've found this list to be pretty quick at answering questions.
Here, I'll test it.
How do I get Safari to open when I click on a link in Mail? I've
got it set to Firefox now, but want to change back to Safari. I used
to know this, but this morning I couldn't find the
No, you don't. The single payer plan, which is an option. No where
have I seen it written or said by it's proponents that it would be
required of everyone. It wouldn't be taken out of your paycheck
automatically without your consent like social security or other
taxes. What is so friggen
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Jeff Milesjmile...@charter.net wrote:
I was born and lived in Idaho for many years. I'm a strong supporter
of gun rights. But these idiots bring guns to a presidential speeches need
to be locked up just for being stupid.
They bring their guns to those
I was being serious, but when I asked and after trying I had only
been awake for about an hour. I had a brain cloud.
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Jordan wrote:
Jeff Miles
Search youtube for obama single payer, should be the first hit posted
by nakedemporer. I'd post the link but I still can't copy/paste.
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On Sep 6, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:
No, you don't. The single payer plan, which is an option. No where
First off politicians say a lot of things when they are working on
getting elected and before they become candidates.
Follow through is not very good. (Matter of fact it sucks)
Once a politician gets elected they go into re-election mode. Which
means many of their ideals get tempered.
They bring their guns to those events not for protection - there are
plenty of police at these functions - but rather to convey a veiled
threat of death to those who oppose their views. Note than some of
them carry a sign that harkens back to the Revolutionary War about how the
tree of liberty
On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Lo and behold condition improves GRD dies down and she decides she
should change permanently the Pain meds. Calls doctors office to
get prescription to get it filled. They call it into pharmacy. We
go to pharmacy a day later to
Wow, this kind of sounds like what I've gone through. I'm on SSI
(which I don't feel guilty about since I've been paying for it my
entire working adult life) and also Washington STATE medical
assistance. I'm not quite sure why I'm on the Washington STATE medical
thing but when I was in
It sucks, and we pay a very high premium to get screwed like this.
And before someone tells me to make another choice I have no choices
it is this plan or none. (We can pay more for less deductibles on
the medical, but that is the only difference.)
Stewart
At 07:28 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
mike wrote:
I've heard this all my life, but I've never met a guy who refused or didn't
like asking for directions.
We haven't met. I remember vividly the day, decades ago, when I swore I
would never again stop my car to ask directions.
That story is too long to tell here, but the usual
This discussion is on a subject outside my expertise, but I did receive a
link to this video from one of my Science feeds (evolvingthoughts.net). I
thought you all might enjoy it.
http://brightcove.newscientist.com/services/player/bcpid2227271001?bctid=30583310001
Mark
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
You must have government mandate minimums. If they do not many
companies will try and fly through with a bunch of worthless insurance.
Herein lies the major problem. What constitutes 'minimum' coverage?
Yearly physicals (not part of Medicare), cosmetic surgery,
I think what this video shows is that our medical care is all about
making money and not about treating patients to a healthy outcome.
I keep hearing the phrase let competition rule.
I was taught many years ago, that the more doctors you have in a
region the higher the prices. Doctors do not
In Canada it covers minimum basic health care.
No cosmetic surgery, no sex change operations, maybe flu shots, no
therapeutic massage, Abortion was not legal till 20 years ago.
Also no dental is included (private) some psychiatric is included and
one basic eye exam a year.
Also note you
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Eric S. Sandeesa...@erols.com wrote:
Pfizer can pay a $2.3B fine and it's just the cost of doing business.
Yet there are those, and they are legion, that prefer Pfizer and
their ilk to run the healthcare system, and in many instances resist
attempts to have
Oh I got stirred up a long time ago.
Stewart
At 10:03 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote:
Yes, and thank goodness that our current administration has had the
audacity to be willing to stir the pot on a stew that has needed
stirring for a long, long time.
Steve
Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote:
The 2010 IKEA catalog, now arriving at doorsteps around the world,
reveals the company's choice to change all typography to the Microsoft
font...
http://idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/
Bingo! We have a
FedEx and UPS have been using the US Postal Service for final delivery
of many of their packages. This is private carriers using the _public
option_ to save money.
They ship long distance on their planes or trucks to the local or
regional post office. Then the postal carriers deliver packages
Tom is right in a way that conservatives have been wanting for a long
time, but Mike is wrong--it's everybody's money except the wealthiest
people who remain mostly untaxed. Social Security and Medicare are flat
taxes, no exceptions, just what they love. However, there's a huge
exception that
No, you don't. The single payer plan, which is an option. No where
have I seen it written or said by it's proponents that it would be
required of everyone.
Jeff, that IS the single defining component of single payer. NO ONE else is
paying other than the guvmint, which is kinda the point of
And vice versa. The USPS uses FedEx and UPS to bulk ship US Mail via
their planes and trucks to other USPS facilities for mailbox delivery.
This has nothing to do with public option. It is called subcontracting.
This two way subcontracting already exists in health insurance. Medicare
I was taught many years ago, that the more doctors you have in a
region the higher the prices. Doctors do not compete, they judge one
another on the amount they make. So if one doctor raises prices, all
of them will to stay even.
Could you imagine what would happen if Doctors advertised
Roads are a given? And they're constitutionally provided? Where?
Please post that part of the constitution for me.
Oh fer cryin...You DO know how to use a search engine, right?
5th Amendment, takings clause, US Constitution.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise
OK on the Mackey thing. Yes I did read it, and he has some great
things to say, HOWEVER.
You must have government mandate minimums. If they do not many
companies will try and fly through with a bunch of worthless insurance.
Instead of removing mandates, make them nation wide. At
Ok, and you have a problem with this why? Do you really hate the poor
that much?
I was mostly talking about the option everyone seems to be against. I
know I hate it when I'm given options, don't you?
As for paying for others health care, I really don't mind. We all end
up paying for
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