Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-02-05 Thread tjpa
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:32 AM, mike wrote: Why does it matter what someone was doing on the cell phone? Shouldn't using it be enough? Start worrying about what they were doing and suddenly our idiot lawmakers will make it so certain apps are exempt. This is just a M$ plot to suppress

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-02-01 Thread Jeff Miles
Only slightly. With the introduction of micro brews it hastened competition. Liquor is still only available at state run liquor stores, but the alcohol content in brews have increase, except for the young crowd who still think drinking a Bud is a cool thing. Thankfully I've grown passed

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-29 Thread David D Odell
I suggest that cell phone records should be pulled in the event of an accident and if a cell was in use, within, say 5 minutes, of the incident, by ANYONE in the vehicle, that the driver should be considered, at the very least, negligent. This would apply to all vehicles involved. I remind you

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-29 Thread mike
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123084040 *It found that month-to-month fluctuations in collision accident claims didn't change before and after cell phone bans took effect. Nor did accident patterns change compared with those in nearby states without cell phone bans. * *The

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-29 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:02 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123084040 *It found that month-to-month fluctuations in collision accident claims didn't change before and after cell phone bans took effect. Nor did accident patterns change

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Constance Warner cawar...@his.com wrote: Distracted, cellphone-using, and computer-using drivers are a particular menace to anyone who takes public transportation and who is therefore a pedestrian a lot of the time. For the most part, I see no great

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-28 Thread George Carr
Yes, I wasn't thinking about vulnerable pedestrians in the mix. The stakes are considerably higher in the human vs. large, speeding machine context. Good point. But even here I bet there will be a tech solution to preventing car collisions with ANYTHING, humans, animals, trees, ice patches. Even

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-28 Thread Fred Holmes
At 12:01 PM 1/28/2010, George Carr wrote: But even here I bet there will be a tech solution to preventing car collisions with ANYTHING, humans, animals, trees, ice patches. Even now there are (infrared?) sensors that can pick out warm people on a dark night, warning a driver of their presence. But

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:01 PM, George Carr geo...@georgecarrstudio.com wrote: The New York Times had an article about pedestrians who are getting injured while walking and using electronic devices. One teenager gave himself a concussion by walking head-first into a pole! A TV station

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-28 Thread Mike Sloane
I guess it must be something missing in my genes that I don't have the constant urge to yak, yak, yak endlessly. All of the conversations I overhear (not by choice - people seem to find it necessary to babble as loudly as possible while using cellphones, regardless of how personal their

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mike Sloane mikeslo...@verizon.net wrote: I guess it must be something missing in my genes that I don't have the constant urge to yak, yak, yak endlessly. All of the conversations I overhear (not by choice - people seem to find it necessary to babble as loudly

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. Most police, (Sheriffs, city, state) now have laptops mounted on their consoles for data look ups of traffic stops etc. Plus they all have cell phones (A lot down here push to talk) and I see these folks constantly

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. Various of these agencies, as well as some businesses, are exempted from state laws that could be used to prosecute those

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Sue Cubic
At 08:03 AM 1/27/2010, you wrote: I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. There is no official word yet on this one, but generally accepted that this is what happened in this accident: http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20101210382

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote: The speed limit was 55 mph, but speed was not a factor based on interviews with people who witnessed the crash, Molinari said. He also said drug screening came back negative, but police haven't ruled out the possibility

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread mike
Why does it matter what someone was doing on the cell phone? Shouldn't using it be enough? Start worrying about what they were doing and suddenly our idiot lawmakers will make it so certain apps are exempt. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:35 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Dunford
I get after my wife all the time for calling me while she knows I am on the road. (MY blue tooth does not work.) We've solved that one. Anyone in the family can call anyone else when we know they're driving, but the driver won't answer (we don't even look at the phone). Instead, the driver

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread George Carr
Technology helped to create this problem but technology eventually will provide solutions such as safer cars, reliable crash-avoidance systems, and even vehicles that drive themselves. Meanwhile people need to focus on their driving. Did I read somewhere about a car-based system that would disable

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Stewart Marshall
If traveling with someone I say its for you! Stewart At 10:18 AM 1/27/2010, you wrote: I get after my wife all the time for calling me while she knows I am on the road. (MY blue tooth does not work.) We've solved that one. Anyone in the family can call anyone else when we know they're

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:27 AM, George Carr geo...@georgecarrstudio.comwrote: Technology helped to create this problem but technology eventually will provide solutions such as safer cars, reliable crash-avoidance systems, and even vehicles that drive themselves. Meanwhile people need to

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:32 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Why does it matter what someone was doing on the cell phone?   Shouldn't using it be enough?  Start worrying about what they were doing and suddenly our idiot lawmakers will make it so certain apps are exempt. I do not disagree.

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Jeff Miles
Speaking to the negative drug test result. I'm still on the side that cell phone or other similar electronic devices used while driving should be charged with the same harshness as DUI. If someone is killed due to the use, it should also be charged the same as killing while under the

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Jeff Miles
Isn't this easy enough to find out? Don't cell phones and/or the provider keep time stamped logs of usage? Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:35 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Partially it is the intolerance of anyone under the influence and what they can get away with charging. Makes DA's look good tough on crime etc. Also raises lots of dough for local municipality etc. Plus the fact that some of these are usually plea dealed down it gives them a stronger hand

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Rich Schinnell
Jeff, when I was growing up in Washington State, Indians could only buy 3.2 beer, no hard liquor and all liquor was available in a state liquor store and you had to have a liquor card to buy. Also, it was against the law to pick up a beer/drink from the bar and walk to your table with it. A

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Sue Cubic
At 08:36 PM 1/27/2010, you wrote: Isn't this easy enough to find out? Don't cell phones and/or the provider keep time stamped logs of usage? Of course they do, but I doubt we ever hear the end of the story--if anyone even wants to look. The funeral was huge--big parade of police

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Constance Warner
Safer cars don't do very much for pedestrians, who are no match for drivers on cellphones or computers. Distracted, cellphone-using, and computer-using drivers are a particular menace to anyone who takes public transportation and who is therefore a pedestrian a lot of the time. Just try