I want to add to the refurbished Mac discussion. I've got to buy my
second refurb due to my old one dyeing this last week while I was on
vacation. I'm going to get a 1 tb external to see if I can boot off
it and keep the old one going awhile longer, but I still want the new
intel iMac.
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
I have ordered, from the Apple Store, a refurbed Mac mini for this
fellow as his first computer. He has been convinced that he does not
have to have the same kind of computer that, as he put is, everyone
else has. The Mac
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Take him to an Apple store. Check the schedule for the free classes they
hold there. Get info on the one-on-one training (see posts here on that).
Show him the Genius bar. Ask one of the store staff to explain Apple's
support
I have ordered, from the Apple Store, a refurbed Mac mini for this
fellow as his first computer. He has been convinced that he does not
have to have the same kind of computer that, as he put is, everyone
else has. The Mac mini was $419 and I also ordered from Apple a nice
Canon printer, the
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, my experience is polar opposite of yours. I recommend Dell to those
who ask and often I'm asked about Macs. I tell them to use what they're
comfortable with; a computer is a tool, not a fashion statement or position
It is just too bad that computers, which are becoming almost an appliance
of necessity in the modern world, are viewed as being so nettlesome and
needing of constant TLC.
Everyone experiences that only if they get the computer that everyone
has. That has been the point, as I was all too much
Everyone experiences that only if they get the computer that everyone
has. That has been the point, as I was all too much reminded of yesterday.
No, not everyone Tom, just people who approach management of
multiple computers the same way Chevy Chase approches a comedic scene.
At the very
No, not everyone Tom, just people who approach management of
multiple computers the same way Chevy Chase approches a comedic scene.
Clearly, M$ has managed to make updates such a tangled mess that you need
to install special software to manage it all. Not so on the Mac.
Or, you just keep
If you are going to manage your systems so poorly, you aren't going to get
much sympathy when you complain.
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
No, not everyone Tom, just people who approach management of
multiple computers the same way Chevy Chase approches a
Maybe you shouldn't have waited to download SP3 until the day after Windows
7 RC, which is a 2.6 GB d/l, is released to great demand.
There always seems to be some excuse. Everybody knows not to do this on
Tuesdays or Wednesdays, or whatever. The bottom line is that I needed to
do something
Adobe site says Win XP SP 2 is the requirement...were you running these
systems with just SP 1? Pre SP 1?
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Maybe you shouldn't have waited to download SP3 until the day after
Windows
7 RC, which is a 2.6 GB d/l, is released to
There always seems to be some excuse. Everybody knows not to do this on
Tuesdays or Wednesdays, or whatever. The bottom line is that I needed to
do something fairly ordinary and it didn't work and the reason it didn't
work was at their end.
That's your excuse when you play in traffic at rush
Clearly, M$ has managed to make updates such a tangled mess that you need
to install special software to manage it all. Not so on the Mac.
Nope, but you do have to have more than a gnat's worth of gumption.
StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updatesdownload but don't
install.
Whew! Wipe
Adobe site says Win XP SP 2 is the requirement...
The installer halts and demands SP3. Who am I to argue?
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You don't say whether he wants a notebook or a desktop. I bought my
daughter a HP desktop PC computer for Xmas this past year for about
$350. It was not the cheapest: I wanted a dual-core processor. I am
amazed at the quality and value when the mail-order computer arrived
from HP. My
Nope, but you do have to have more than a gnat's worth of gumption.
StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updatesdownload but don't
install. Whew! Wipe brow.
Do you really run around the office, stopping at each PC to run
StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updates? No wonder you are so
grumpy.
Do you really run around the office, stopping at each PC to run
StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updates? No wonder you are so
grumpy.
No, I use a not-free patching system that scans each system and lists
what patches are missing on them. I can then push out patches,
including service
What patching system is that?
Do you really run around the office, stopping at each PC to run
StartSettingsControl PanelAutomatic Updates? No wonder you are so
grumpy.
No, I use a not-free patching system that scans each system and lists
what patches are missing on them. I can then push
Since you only have a dozen Windows PCs or so, and can handle
installing CS on them (not an insignificant nor quick process), I
figured you could handle this. I could be wrong.
If the M$ stuff worked I would be a happy camper. As you said, installing
CS is not insignificant, it fills 2 DVDs and
What patching system is that?
Shavlik NetChkPro
http://www.shavlik.com
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But 3/4 of the day was M$ updaters running very slowly or not at
all. I should have been able to download the SP3 exe once and then
quickly run that on each PC. It didn't and there is really no excuse for
that.
I've given you the fish and the net and told you how to catch the fish
and how to
I've given you the fish and the net and told you how to catch the fish
and how to avoid pulling up old boots,
But the lake is a Superfund Site!
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b_s-wilk wrote:
As an aside to your daughter, if she expects to work in video or
graphic design, the good studios all use Macs or other Unix. Magazines
and newspapers, good web developers, even credit card companies, use
Macs. Local and national TV stations use Macs. Locally, JP Morgan
In January, I got a very nice Compaq Presario for my wife for less than $400
with a dual core Athlon processor and 3GB of RAM. It is my impression that
is about the best deal you can get. This was for the CPU only, no monitor,
printer, or other peripheral.
If this guy refuses to spend more than
Faced with a similar situation several years ago, I told the person who
had asked for help to find someone more up on Windows than I was at the
time. I explained that my expertise was not centered there, I'd feel
bad if they were disappointed, and would not be their best choice for
any follow-on
Additionally,
he only wants to spend about $400 or so for everything, including the
printer. He knows nothing of computer pricing, so this is not an
issue of wanting a Windows machine simply because they are known to be
initially cheap.
I submit that this is exactly what the issue is and he
I'm going to repeat myself. If he isn't willing to spend a bit more, he'll
end up with an underpowered computer he won't be happy with.
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote:
Additionally,
he only wants to spend about $400 or so for everything, including the
I've heard it. Compatibility with others, along with fear of the
unknown, are concerns that people have. No flames, please: I've used
and suggested both PCs and Macs. For this first-time buyer, I concur
with John and Mark.
-Andy
Jeff Wright wrote:
/snip/
Not once have I been told, I
CompUSA has a complete HP Compaq 6735s notebook for $329.
http://tinyurl.com/ctcrvw
No need to go into lengthy explanations about email; just hook him to
Yahoo or gmail.
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The link didn't work. Perhaps tinyurl doesn't support this type of link.
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote:
CompUSA has a complete HP Compaq 6735s notebook for $329.
http://tinyurl.com/ctcrvw
Actually, I figured it might not, which is why I gave the make and
model - so a search would work.
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=HP+Compaq+6735s
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Emmerling jpemmerl...@gmail.com wrote:
The link didn't work. Perhaps
Also, there's a referb 20 iMac on the Apple site for $800.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
He does not need this computer for anything related to his work. I
have said it before here, and once again it has happened. A computer
purchase is being predicated upon the erroneous and paranoid concept
that
We have 3 PCs. I don't like the cheap [free] Compaq Presario notebook
with Vista Home Premium. The HP notebook with Vista Business is a much
better computer, but retails for twice as much as the Compaq. However,
we got a display model for about the same price as the Compaq. We also
have a ca.
Of course, he can actually get an *almost free* new computer if he's
willing to sign up for a long term (2 yr?) 3G contract. That may not
be a bad deal at all, depending on his needs. With a connection to the
cell network, it's 24/7 access wherever he is. A very important
feature for many people.
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The guy sounds resistant, and I'm not sure I would try to overcome
that resistance if it felt like a lost cause.
That is very true. Every computer is going to have problems from time to
time and every computer sold has some lemons in the basket. If you
convince someone
Also, there's a referb 20 iMac on the Apple site for $800.
I have found that Apple refurbs are very close to new. Humorously so.
They pack them with the same care as new with everything wrapped in its
little baggie and secured with twisty ties. Except the little baggies and
twisty ties are
You don't say whether he wants a notebook or a desktop.
I bought my daughter a HP desktop PC computer for Xmas this past year
for about $350. It was not the cheapest: I wanted a dual-core
processor. I am amazed at the quality and value when the mail-order
computer arrived from HP. My
That was my experience. The 17 MacBook Pro I got last year is a refurb
and was indistinguishable from a new Mac. No evidence that it had ever
been touched.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Also, there's a referb 20 iMac on the Apple site for $800.
I have found that Apple refurbs are very close to
Checking prices now at HP web site: AMD single-core processor, $300.
Intel dual-core, $380.
That's not the real price.
We have been upgrading classroom computers to Adobe Creative Suite CS4.
The Mac installs were uneventful. The Windows installs were one problem
after another.
Both Macs
I'm going to repeat myself. If he isn't willing to spend a bit more,
he'll
end up with an underpowered computer he won't be happy with.
Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Most of the computers that you can get today
are vastly overpowered for what most people end up using them for: word
The Windows patcher stopped downloading at the 10% mark and would not
resume.
What Windows patcher are you talking about? Is this something that Adobe
provided?
As you so aptly pointed out, you get what you pay for.
I tried again with different computers and different programs,
but always
What Windows patcher are you talking about? Is this something that Adobe
provided?
I said I was downloading from a M$ server. Where do you get Adobe in
there? Trying to shift the blame I guess. XP SP3 is purely a M$ travesty.
I had no problems downloading patchers from the Adobe servers.
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