If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues :
- the LG drives problem
- the updates
- the default installed applications.
In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a nice
idea to split the kde packages for space reason. What is not nice is
that KDE seems
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 09.58 skrev Eric Fernandez:
If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues :
- the LG drives problem
- the updates
- the default installed applications.
In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a nice
idea to split the kde
guran wrote:
What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages?
How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutting it into
a forced search for missing packages? Is it a political decission against qt?
In reviews of KDE the journalists very often like the many
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 11.46 skrev Eric Fernandez:
guran wrote:
What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages?
How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by cutting it
into a forced search for missing packages? Is it a political decission
against qt?
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| fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 09.58 skrev Eric Fernandez:
Guran, no need to flame, no conspiracy here.
| What is the necessity for this design of very few KDE packages?
| How can a newbie be helped in learning to understand Linux by
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| fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 11.46 skrev Eric Fernandez:
| I can understand that, but what I am missing is the possibility to have a
| choice of installed packages. When Mdk has decided to decrease KDE
packages
| and install Gnome stuff,
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 17:01, Buchan Milne a écrit :
But, I don't think anyone on this list qualifies as a newbie.
Sure, but i'm on a forum where you have many newbies and I can see what
they do and their habits ... a strange this the newbie ;)
People on
this list should be testing at
fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 14.09 skrev Jan Ciger:
There is no logic to understand - these are bugs which slipped through
the QA process or just weren't fixed. I think the screensavers issue was
reported before release, as well as the empty KDE. Why it wasn't
fixed, I do not know.
Jan
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| fredagen den 24 oktober 2003 14.09 skrev Jan Ciger:
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|There is no logic to understand - these are bugs which slipped through
|the QA process or just weren't fixed. I think the screensavers issue was
|reported before release, as well
Eric Fernandez wrote:
If you remaster CD1, actually there are three big issues :
- the LG drives problem
- the updates
- the default installed applications.
In KDE, a new install has very few applications installed. It was a
nice idea to split the kde packages for space reason. What is not
On Thursday 23 October 2003 02:46, Brad Felmey wrote:
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0
20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:46:36PM -0500, Brad Felmey wrote:
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the
Am Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:28 + schrieb Galileo:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2 doesn't mean
Brad Felmey wrote:
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2
On Thursday 23 October 2003 08:34, Udo Rader wrote:
Am Thu, 23 Oct 2003 01:03:28 + schrieb Galileo:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0
20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2 doesn't mean
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 12:25:03PM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding
torsdag 23. oktober 2003, 12:25, skrev Frederic Crozat:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 03:03:28 +0200, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0
20 More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Steinar Hauge wrote:
No, you should continue to provide bug fixes and updates as well!! :-)
Thats one of the reasons why I am a club member.
But what you should consider, is to use a little bit longer time and have a
RC3 cykle also. It is a pity that MDK has got a
Simon Oosthoek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since 9.x, we are now providing ALSO providing updates for
bugfixes..
That's very much appreciated!
But maybe we should go back and drop all non-security fixes
updates ?
please no! But having bugfixes in updates should not be a reason to
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...
excuse me, but most people will test during RC period, but the problem
was you release ... how many ... 2 RC !
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:31 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
actually mdk9.2 was quite better than previous releases regarding
quality.
yes indeed as a user since 5.3 I have seen huge improvements in 9.2 but then
the whole 9.x series has for the most part been great. Really those out there
Le Jeudi 23 Octobre 2003 16:13, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit :
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...
excuse me, but most people will test during RC
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being
broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds
of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the hard
drives. So I know this is not isolated in my case. I
Pierre Jarillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING
the beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final
release...
excuse me, but most people will test during RC period, but the
problem was you release ... how many ... 2 RC
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes this is true also I should file a bug report for the scsi being
broke in the kernel. I have three machines with two different kinds
of scsi cards. All of them crash trying to format the
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 02:58, David Coe wrote:
If I had just installed a site-full of Mandrake 9.2 workstations, I
would be less than impressed to have this size of update to do so soon
after.
I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a
squid cache will do.
--
I think that we need a lot more RCs, and on the contrary they should be more
frequent, a lot more frequent. Updating a cooker machine is not the same
than installing the distribution from scratch, considering the updating
scripts do not have the same effects.
For example, there should be 1 RC per
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:41 am, Brad Felmey wrote:
I _do_ support a site full of workstations. It's amazing what cron and a
squid cache will do.
or a local repository in my case. Download once and have it available for
everybody.
--
On Thursday 23 October 2003 06:17 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
Thanks guys for all your hard work. If you need help troubleshooting
the scsi problems I have three downed servers that I can test on.
could you fill in a bug report with oops message if possible or any
error message availlable on
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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
Le jeu 23/10/2003 à 10:25, Frederic Crozat a écrit :
And if people were reporting bugs/responding to queries DURING the
beta/RC period, more bugs would be fixed BEFORE final release...
excuse me, but most people will test
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:32, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
OOo did five RC which were truely Release Candidate.
However OOo is far less complicated as a full distro.
Well, yeah. That's the problem. OO.o is far less complicated than a full
distro...yet even THEY think five release candidates are
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 18:29, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, yeah. That's the problem. OO.o is far less complicated than a full
distro...yet even THEY think five release candidates are necessary. MDK
is far more complex than OO.o, yet we seem to think it's okay to get by
on two release
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2 doesn't mean a thing anymore. 7.2 and 8.2 were
perfect. Why isn't so
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:03, Galileo wrote:
Another proof that Mandrake releases unfinished products.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:020
More that 250 MB of updates excluding SRPMS. How the hell did this
happen ?
It looks like x.2 doesn't mean a thing
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