Re: [courier-users] Re: IMAP login failes

2002-05-15 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.05.15 20:03 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 AlexB writes:
 the problem is with IMAP not with vpopmail. I mentioned that I use 
 vpopmail for reference only. Don't be wise ass
 
 Please refrain from discussing things you know very little about.  
 The IMAP server uses the vpopmail library for authentication.  That's 
 the whole purpose of that library, Einstein.  You are reporting a 
 problem with authentication.  Therefore, the problem is in the 
 vpopmail library. Also, learn how to properly reply to Internet 
 E-mail. -- 
 Sam

heh

We were wondering how Sam was going to respond to that venerable 
gentleman...

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Re: [courier-users] --disable-root-check ?

2002-05-03 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.05.03 17:12 Rick Updegrove wrote:
 
 Ok so just for the heck of it I decided to see if it would compile as 
 root,
 which it does.  Now, because I read the documentation I know that is 
 not the
 way it was mean to be installed, but I cannot fifure out why yet.
 
 When I look at the Makefile for the (working) ports version I see the
 following:

 Should I ./configure --disable-root-check
 
 and then gmake as root?  etc.  If not why not?  I know I am not 
 supposed to
 gmake as root but I am not sure why.  I have been looking around for a
 written explanation of when --disable-root-check is needed/adviseable
 but so far I haven't located anything.

The problem you are having in installation is somewhat curable, though 
not something I've had to deal with in a while. As I'm sure Sam will 
emphasize, executing *any* action, espeecially a complex one like 
building courier, has the potential to destroying your system. As a 
metter of course, one shouldonly resort to root login and su when they 
are appropriate and needed, and at no other time.

David Stowell

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Re: [courier-users] INSTALL: IMAP package conflict with pam.d

2002-04-17 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.04.17 22:50 Patrick Beart wrote:
   I'm a complete novice with both (RH 7.2) Linux and Courier. 
 However, I've managed to create RPM's from the tarball (Courier 
 0.37.3.20020317-1.7.2), thanks to the FAQ. I've also managed to 
 install the RPM's with ...
   rpm -Uvh package name

No, you haven't installed it yet, because you got an error message. RPM 
won't complete an install unless everything is perfect or you --force 
the issue. Consider this a good thing.

   I've run into an error with one of the packages and could use 
 some advice: The IMAP package install resulted in the following error:
   file /etc/pam.d/imap from install of 
 courier-imap-0.37.20020317-1.7.2 conflicts with file from package 
 imap-200c-15
 
   How do I recover from this (and get the IMAP component 
 installed)? TIA

You got the error because there's a file (/etc/pam.d/imap) that is 
owned by the current imap package that your RPM wants to replace. Given 
that you want to replace the current IMAP package with courier-IMAP, 
your best option (check me on this) is to remove the current IMAP 
package with the command:

rpm -e imap

and then reexecute:

rpm -Uvh courier package name

Hope this helps,

David Stowell

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Re: [courier-users] banner

2002-03-18 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.03.16 03:07 Anand Buddhdev wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 06:01:02PM -0500, alexus wrote:
 
  is there anything else can be done other then modifing source code?
 
 No. Most people don't need to change the POP and IMAP server banners,
 so it's not a runtime configuration option. But why don't you want to
 change the source code? It's quite simple really.

Just a comment: I realize that we're in a open source community, and I 
haven't looked to see what kind of license Sam has placed on courier, 
but the majority of the banner is a copyright notice, and if he's put a 
copyright notice in the banner, it would seem to me that he's the 
ultimate arbiter as to whether a user of the product has the right to 
remove it. I would guess not. Even when software is under the GPL, a 
notice to that effect is part of the requirements of the license.

Does that make sense?

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Re: [courier-users] Completely remove Courier

2002-02-19 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.02.19 13:13 M.B. wrote:
 I want to completely remove courier from my system so it would not
 interefere with another attempt with another e -mail server
 installation
 
 besides, rpm -e, is there anything else I have to do to completely
 remove it
 and when I say COMPLETELY I mean COMPLETELY ( ala the INSTALL file)

When I was researching e-mail servers, one of the factors that sold me 
on courier was its relative ease of installation. By contrast, I found 
Cyrus to be very difficult to deal with. Any full-featured systems 
administration package will be rather intensive to install and 
maintain. If you are looking for easier installations, at the cost of 
fewer features, there are a number of e-mail servers out there. But 
with a certain amount of patience, you'll find courier to be worth the 
effort. And as the INSTALL document points out, the initial 
installation is the worst one - upgrades are quite smooth, even if you 
are compiling.

At last report, you seemed to be on your way. Don't give up yet.

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Re: [courier-users] Re: Problems after install- please help .. closer maybe

2002-02-18 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.02.18 17:42 M.B. wrote:
 
 I am thinking just to remove the RPM's and every thing they installed,
 remove the user accounts, and start over with courier.  If I do that
 can I use the same RPM's or do I have to build them again

Insofar as I can tell, this should be unnecessary.

 Will RPM -e * take care of getting rid of courier and its ffiles it
 installed or is there something else I have to do

The -e option would work. Again, I suspect that this would not help 
your problems.

 pac10fans.com was set as locally-hosted domain . I went to add it 
 to
 local domains and I got this error 'ERROR: domain cannot be both 
 local and
 locally-hosted'
 
 I will delete the locally-hosted one and add it to local domains and
 report back
 
 ===
 After changing pac10fans,com too a local domain from a localy-hosted 
 one
 ===
 
 I sent my self a message from my isp '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and it DID NOT bounce back to me as 'Returned 
 Mail'
 like before so I checked the webmail and again it did not show up in
 the INBOX so I checked the mailog and this is what it said
 
messages clipped

 Feb 18 11:50:23 pac10fans courierlocal:
 id=7D9F.3C715AFF.0B33,from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],addr=mb18@pac10fans.
 com,size=776,success: Message delivered.
 Feb 18 11:50:23 pac10fans courierd:
 completed,id=7D9F.3C715AFF.0B33
 Feb 18 11:50:23 pac10fans courierd: Waiting.  shutdown time=Mon Feb 18
 12:23:51 2002, wakeup time=Mon Feb 18 12:23:51 2002,
 queuedelivering=0,
 inprogress=0
 
 It sais it was delivered but its not showing up in mb18's sqwebmail. 
 I then
 with OE on my win 98 se computer on the LAN I created a new mail 
 account to
 retrieve mb18's mail from pac10fans.com.  I used mail.pac10fans.com 
 for both
 the POP3 and SMTP server.  I went to see if I could get it this way 
 and I
 got this error

Did you look on the server's /home/mb18/Maildir/new directory to see if 
the messages landed there? In other words, don't trust OE or sqwebmail 
until you have the base level functioning first. Also, did you do *all* 
the testing prescribed in INSTALL, including the perftest1 script? What 
were the results?

Then again, if you created RPMs, you may not have seen that script, or 
for that matter, the INSTALL instructions. They cannot be ignored. Go 
to http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html, read *EVERYTHING* and do 
all the testing described there. For the record, this is one of the few 
packages I use that I do not create RPMs for - I compile the program 
directly, and am thankful for that.

 BOFH mail filters
 Spamtraps = @mail.pac10fans.com (can not delted it, it wont let me)
 CAN THIS BE THE PROBLEM!!

If this is in the text box (which is likely - it's what's in my 
system), it is not a problem - it is just a suggestion. If it is 
written as text on the page itself, with the word remove to the right 
of it, then it needs to be removed by clicking on the word remove.

David M. Stowell
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Re: [courier-users] Re: Problems after install- please help .. closer maybe

2002-02-18 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.02.18 21:21 M.B. wrote:
  I'd skip the RPM business and compile from first principles, but 
 that's
  just me.
 
 With my little experience, RPM I would think is better for me.  I did
 install Mysql and PHP 4.1.1 from source but I found a great tutorial
 for it
 
 If people were not getting this to work with RPM, I am sure it would 
 be
 noted somewhere
  The fact that the Courier writers do not provide an RPM should be 
taken as a caution. When I first started using courier, I tried making 
RPMs, but found that the assumtions made in the process were not valid 
for my machine, and the testing suite was not available to diagnose 
installation problems. So I took out the RPMs, compiled the source and 
got courier running rather quickly.

  I think the more important question is whether you've been through
  Sam's test suite. Have you read the INSTALL page yet?
 
 I did read the INSTALL page and the one in the TAR.  The problem I 
 find is
 it is not clear on what you HAVE to do if you are using RPM's.  There 
 are
 quite a few things the INSTALL file says to do but its more geared to
 compiling from source, I find very few instruction when using RPM.
 Half the stuff is in a different place using RPM

The testing suite must be done to verify proper installation. Compiling 
from source makes the perftest much more feasible.

 I dont know, it might be me, but there should be an RPM.INSTALL file
 detailing what needs to be done going the RPM route.  Honeslty,  I
 dont know what I HAVE MUST do after installing the RPM's

Given the complexity of installation of server-level software, my 
opinion is that making RPMs an option is doing a disservice to the 
system administrator (IMHO only). Having said that, by carefully 
following the directions in INSTALL, you'll find that compilation of 
courier is much easier than it looks.

 Then it says if you are using webadmin the rest of the file can be
 configured with it.  There is no documentation on webadmin, if someone
 needed to use it they obviously dont have all the terminolgy down.
 
 If I could configure it without webadmin, I would not need to use 
 webadmin,
 and since I do there should be explanation on what all those settings 
 are
 for.

If you study the documentation for the configuration files, you'll 
understand the settings in webadmin. At thqat point, webadmin is an 
easier way to alter those settings.

 Whats Sam's test suite.  I did not see anything called Sam's test
 suite.

 From Post-Installation Setup onward in the INSTALL doc.
http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html#postinst

 Courier seems like a great piece of software.  I chose it because it 
 is an
 full mail server in one package.  I figures it would be best to have 
 one
 system running POP, SMTP, WEBMAIL, a WEBADMIN was a bonus good feature

You're right on that point. :)

 Is there a site with more detailed instruction using RPM's

To my knowledge, no.

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Re: [courier-users] Re: Problems after install- please help .. closer maybe

2002-02-17 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.02.17 22:44 M.B. wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 I really hope someone can help me with this.
 
 As I said before I can send e - mail fine with my domain. but I can 
 not
 receive
 
 Here is the error messsage someone gets when they send me an email or 
 reply
 to one I sent
 
 inal-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Action: failed
 Status: 5.0.0
 Remote-MTA: dns; mail.pac10fans.com [IPx.x.x.x]
 Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 User unknown.
 
snip - courier RPMS

 I have no idea why its saying user unknown but could it be related it
 to
 this I noticed in the properties of an e - mail I sent from
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to my ISP account
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from lamx01.mgw.rr.com ([66.75.160.12])
   by orngca-mls05.socal.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release
 223
   ID# 0-59787U25L25S0V35) with ESMTP id com
   for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:38:10 -0800
 Received: from mail.pac10fans.com (sc-24-24-202-102.socal.rr.com
 [24.24.202.102])
  by lamx01.mgw.rr.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g1I4ckN21474
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:38:46 -0800 (PST)
 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) = == right 
 here,
 is that correct


 The only error I see in syslog is  Feb 17 21:44:36 pac10fans
 su(pam_unix)[32541]: session opened for user mb18 by courier(uid=0)
 
 This is not even from today and I started, rebooted courier several
 time today

Call it me, but has anyone looked at this guy's DNS records? I just did 
(using dig) and things look a bit strange up there to me.

Seriously, I would guess that you are new to systems administration. I 
think you should *seriously* consider calling in a consultant to wire 
things together and get you on your feet. Otherwise, it really looks 
like you're going to keep fumbling.

David M. Stowell
Ravenslake Consulting
Chicago, IL

P.S. No, I do not consult in mail administration :)

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Re: [courier-users] Re: Problems after install- please help .. closer maybe

2002-02-17 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.02.18 00:21 Juha Saarinen wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, David M. Stowell wrote:
 
   Call it me, but has anyone looked at this guy's DNS records? I 
 just did
   (using dig) and things look a bit strange up there to me.
 
 They look all right to me.
 
 # dig pac10fans.com. mx
 
 ;  DiG 8.3  pac10fans.com. mx
 ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
 ;; got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL:
 5
 ;; QUERY SECTION:
 ;;  pac10fans.com, type = MX, class = IN
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 pac10fans.com.  1D IN MX1 mail.pac10fans.com.
 
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 pac10fans.com.  1H IN NSns1.mydomain.com.
 pac10fans.com.  1H IN NSns2.mydomain.com.
 pac10fans.com.  1H IN NSns3.mydomain.com.
 pac10fans.com.  1H IN NSns4.mydomain.com.
 
 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 mail.pac10fans.com. 1D IN A 24.24.202.102
 ns1.mydomain.com.   5M IN A 216.148.213.141
 ns2.mydomain.com.   5M IN A 216.148.221.142
 ns3.mydomain.com.   5M IN A 216.148.213.143
 ns4.mydomain.com.   5M IN A 216.148.221.144

I didn't get the MX record on my query. That was the main oddness. 
Also, I didn't check, but nameservers called ns_.mydomain.com looked 
strange, even if they really exist (which I'm sure they do).

My suggestion to get experienced help on site still stands.

David M. Stowell
Ravenslake Consulting
Chicago, IL

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Re: [courier-users] Re: Problems after install- please help

2002-02-17 Thread David M. Stowell

On 2002.02.18 00:24 Juha Saarinen wrote:
 So... is pac10fans.com in your locally hosted domains file? All the
 standard user names that I've tried, root, hostmaster, postmaster,
 etc.
 give you a 550 - User unknown.

This may be too simple, but is there a Maildir in the valid users' home 
directories?

David M. Stowell

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addendum to [courier-users] Inbound traffic jam

2002-01-07 Thread David M . Stowell

I've attached what bounced back from one of my attempts to send a 
message into my courier server from an outside account. To reiterate, 
sending throught courier is working wonderfully from any of my machines 
in my network, and receiving between machines in the network works, 
too. It's receiving from the Internet that it seems to be choking on.

Hopefully this will help in debugging.

David M. Stowell
Ravenslake Consulting
Chicago, IL


From raven  Mon Jan  7 15:24:03 2002
Return-Path: 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Mail Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:13:05 -0600
Message-ID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report;
report-type=delivery-status;
Boundary_ _= 7992248(24187)1010419985
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Status: RO
Content-Length: 1914
Lines: 56


--===_ _= 7992248(24187)1010419985
Content-Type: text/plain

This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.
The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why
each recipient was rejected.

Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reason:Relaying denied.


Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if you feel this message to be in error.

--===_ _= 7992248(24187)1010419985
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net
Arrival-Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:19:04 -0600
Received-From-MTA: dns; chopin.ravenslake (66.73.252.54)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.0
Remote-MTA: dns; ravenslakeconsulting.com (66.73.252.54)
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 513 Relaying denied.

--===_ _= 7992248(24187)1010419985
Content-Type: message/rfc822

Received: from chopin.ravenslake ([66.73.252.54])
  by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net
  (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP
  id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:19:04 -0600
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:17:39 -0600
From: David M . Stowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disposition-Notification-To: David M . Stowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3
Content-Length: 34
Lines: 1

test from Ameritech to ravenslake

--===_ _= 7992248(24187)1010419985--



Re: addendum to [courier-users] Inbound traffic jam

2002-01-07 Thread David M . Stowell

On 2002.01.07 18:59 Sysop wrote:
 Sysop wrote:

 Oh, I think I see where some of the problem lies...  I thought 
 somebody was trying to use you as an SMTP server, from outside your 
 network. This is just general mail coming in from another smtp server 
 for delivery
 
 where do you have your domains listed, for hosted or local?

I have them listed in locals. No domains are listed in any other 
configuration file. I've attached a copy of locals.

Thanks,

David M. Stowell



locals
Description: Binary data


[courier-users] Inbound traffic jam

2002-01-06 Thread David M . Stowell

As far as e-mail administration is concerend, I am a complete neophyte. 
Treat me gently... ;)

I've set up courier 0.37 and all seems well as far as the battery of 
tests outlined in INSTALL.html is concerned. Additionally, I can use 
IMAP to reach from my workstation to my server without a hitch. 
Finally, outbound traffic runs smoothly. The only remaining question is 
that of incoming traffic. while everything works well inside the 
network, courier seems not to be seeing Internet inbound traffic at all.

I have two domain names pointed at the same server - 
ravenslakeconsulting.com and ravenslakeconsulting.net. Internally, 
the network is called ravenslake. I've enclosed the locals file as an 
attachment if that helps. I should mention that I'm using Linux kernel 
2.4 and the accompanying iptables for a firewall, with a hole punched 
in for SMTP traffic.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance

David M. Stowell



locals
Description: Binary data


Re: [courier-users] cannot create mailbox at root?

2002-01-03 Thread David M . Stowell

On 2002.01.04 00:41 Lee Ming wrote:
 I am using qmail + courier-imap + vpopmail + omail-webmail.  Client is
 using outlook express.  But when I  connect to my imap server, it only
 show up the inbox to subscribe.
 When I create mailbox at root, it always say no right to create.  I
 can only create mailbox under inbox, how can I create mailbox at root.
 I have seen the mail list archive but seem no one can really answer
 this question, can any one help?

Short form: You can't. Copurier will not allow you to ever deliver mail 
to root. This is documented in the installation instructions.

David M. Stowell

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[courier-users] Sending into oblivion (was Re: 450 Service temporarily unavailable)

2002-01-01 Thread David M . Stowell

On 2001.12.30 22:10 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 David M . Stowell writes:
 Point. :) I've attached the courierd and authdaemonrc files. Is 
 there anything else I should be examining at this point?
 
 authdaemonrc indicates that you've installed all three LDAP, MySQL, 
 and PostgreSQL authentication drivers.  I suspect that none of them 
 are properly configured; and that you don't want to use any of them 
 in the first place. Therefore, set version=authdaemond.plain

Well, after making that change, fixing some SPEs (Stupid Programmer's 
Errors on my part), and finding the documentation from the last time we 
had this conversation, I've gotten over all the humps related to 
installation. Now, I'm trying to send messages from one user to another 
on the server, using variants of the syntax:

echo To: raven | /usr/lib/courier/bin/sendmail (sometimes 
with the -Nsuccess flag)

There are no error messages from the console, but the messages 
disappear into /dev/null without a trace that I can find. I've enclosed 
the tail end of /var/log/maillog, and it seems that the log is 
complaining about the status of the receiveing Maildir, and keeping the 
messages in a queue, yet mailq reveals nothing.

Any thoughts?

David M. Stowell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



maillog
Description: Binary data


Re: [courier-users] Re: 450 Service temporarily unavailable

2001-12-30 Thread David M . Stowell

On 2001.12.29 19:03 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, David M . Stowell wrote:
 
  On 2001.12.29 09:22 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
   David M . Stowell writes:
   When I run the perftest1 test during installation, all the 
 messages I send are being
   returned with the above message. I am anticipating using userdb 
 authentication,
   and have made sure that the auththentication daemon is running. 
 What now?
  
   Check its configuration.
 
  All config files checked for reasonableness,
 
 How do we know that?  Define reasonableness.

Point. :) I've attached the courierd and authdaemonrc files. Is there 
anything else I should be examining at this point?

  What is my next step?

 
 If you don't understand the problem with your configuration, the next
 logical step is to indicate what your configuration files say.
 

heh

The annoying thing about this problem is that I had this problem the 
*last* time I did this install, and should have learned the answer more 
clearly. sigh

David M. Stowell



authdaemonrc
Description: Binary data


courierd
Description: Binary data


[courier-users] 450 Service temporarily unavailable

2001-12-29 Thread David M . Stowell

Okay, I feel really stupid asking this again, as we've gone around the 
block with this before. When I run the perftest1 test during 
installation, all the messages I send are being returned with the above 
message. I am anticipating using userdb authentication, and have made 
sure that the auththentication daemon is running.

What now?

Thanks,

David M. Stowell

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