On 10 Nov 2005, at 4:07 pm, Graham Reeds wrote:
I just wish I could figure out if a) FF is sticking to the letter of
the
W3C description (which is illogical) or b) FF is actually incorrect and
IE is correct for once.
Bet for the usual thing: IE is wrong (on z-index).
Opera, Safari,
Thanks to all who helped me solve this glitch. Nick got me going by
suggesting a few possibilities to address, seconded by Big John. It seems
that the problem was caused - at least in this case - because the images in
my thumbnail div didn't have height and width attributes called in either
the
I am experiencing a weird issue with hovers on MSIE. If you go to:
http://icant.co.uk/works/wickstead/extensions.php
or
http://icant.co.uk/works/wickstead/
and you hover over the links on the right or the bottom respectively,
MSIE does increase the height of the main container. Does anybody
OK. Now I've resized all of the images in the right scrolling div as
suggested by Nick and called the now uniform img size (#thumbnails img) in
the style sheet. As I said earlier, after I placed the sizes of the images
in my html a la 1996, the flickering stopped on my end. Big John said he
How about using a table, as this does look like tabular data to me?
Then you could easily align the TH to the right and the TD to the
left.
In the new world of CSS, aren't we supposed to avoid tables?
Same applies to your span solution - give the first span a fixed
width, display it
Here's a case for a definition list. Following code is very basic, but you
can build on it however you like.
A definition list is certainly better semantic markup than the span
solution.
Your example CSS looked good in IE and Opera. However, in Firefox the
dd is displayed below the dt.
How about using a table, as this does look like tabular data to me?
Then you could easily align the TH to the right and the TD to the
left.
In the new world of CSS, aren't we supposed to avoid tables?
No, we're supposed to avoid the misuse of tables to achieve presentational
goals. Table
On 10/11/05, Curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about using a table, as this does look like tabular data to me?
In the new world of CSS, aren't we supposed to avoid tables?
No, just the abuse of them (or any other element) for layout.
--
David Dorward
Here's a case for a definition list. Following code is very basic, but you
can build on it however you like.
A definition list is certainly better semantic markup than the span
solution.
Ok, this might be getting very hypothetic, but I disagree. The
definition description describes the
Shelley Simpson wrote:
Hi all
I ended up using a table inside my content div...that allowed the content to
grow and the footer to clear the two divs (side menu and content). When I was
trying to use just divs to arrange content, the footer would not clear. So
back to the strange old days of
Rutgers wrote:
Is there a way to set the print margins in Internet Explorer (6+)? I don't
like the preset margins ... like FireFox better but have to make it work in
IE.
Printer page margins are set by the device driver, and are not
accessible to browsers. That is, each printer has a native
I'm trying to add highlighting features to a pre tag.
I want it to look like GMail higlight and spell-checking feature, but I
don't want to break the pre tag text into small span tags.
Instead, I want to position a span with a background color over a specific
text, so the text will look
There was a problem with my email earlier so apologies is this is the second
time you've received this.
I've set up a free web site to show this to you rather than try and explain
it, it would
be difficult to explain exactly what I'm talking about. Please ignore
the
banner ad on the
Hi all
Why, in quirks mode, does Firefox decide to add the amount of padding-top to the
specified height of the element I'm adding padding to? Will switching modes help
me in this case?
#small_div {
margin-left: 0;
width: 120px;
height: 120px;
padding-top: 40px;
}
Charles Dort wrote:
If you'd be willing to glance at this index page
http://www.allsaintsofamerica.org/new_site/index.html
http://www.allsaintsofamerica.org/new_site/css/allsaints.css
Theophan (Charles) Dort
xp_sp2 ie/ff/opera
Looks good to me, Charles.
Some suggestions:
body { /* deleting
Zak McGregor wrote:
Why, in quirks mode, does Firefox decide to add the amount of padding-top to
the
specified height of the element I'm adding padding to? Will switching modes
help
me in this case?
#small_div {
margin-left: 0;
width: 120px;
height: 120px;
I think it works in IE6, Firefox, and Safari (at least recent
versions). I was surprised as well, but came across it working and
was curious.
--Dave
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:40 , David Dorward wrote:
On 26/10/05, David Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This may be off-topic, for which I
Christian Heilmann wrote:
I am experiencing a weird issue with hovers on MSIE. If you go to:
http://icant.co.uk/works/wickstead/extensions.php
or
http://icant.co.uk/works/wickstead/
and you hover over the links on the right or the bottom respectively,
MSIE does increase the height of
I'm working on a Web app for a client, and have a sort of
interdependent collection of IE bugs. I think I have a workaround for
the worst two, but the whole thing is weird enough that I thought I'd
find out if anyone had experience with these. (I'd love to post a
link but of course the
I am experiencing a weird issue with hovers on MSIE. If you go to:
http://icant.co.uk/works/wickstead/extensions.php
http://icant.co.uk/works/wickstead/
and you hover over the links on the right or the bottom respectively,
MSIE does increase the height of the main container.
Looks like
At 8:32 PM -0500 11/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So the only way to bold and center all the text in every cell of a
particular column is to add those rules to every cell? (Sounds like bad
coding to me.) Or to pretend that they are header cells when they
aren't? (Sounds like bad coding to me.)
Hello All,
On my site, http://www.blueplasmarecordings.com/ I tried to achieve 100%
height. It works in Safari/Mozilla, but shocker, not in IE.
Anyone see why this wouldn¹t be working?
Sincerely,
Jordan WOLLMAN //
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I would greatly appreciate any help here...I've got a page set up and all
looks like it should in Firefox IE/Mac, Safari, IE 5 Mac, etc. It looks
totally wrong in IE Windows.
How can i get this page to look right?? I think it's an IE table centering
problem and i cannot for the life of me figure
One way around the confidentiality issue would be to take all text or
revealing names out of the code and post a simple test page with only
your layout elements in it (including form fields, since those are where
you issues lie). Without seeing the problem, I'll try to magically pull
answers out
Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 10:01:21 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
.myclass {text-align: center}
td:first-child+td+td {text-align: center} /* the 3rd column */
***But***, and here IE is buggy again, you *cannot* group those
selector, else IE doesn't recognise the .myclass selector.
I
I would greatly appreciate any help here...I've got a page set up and all
looks like it should in Firefox IE/Mac, Safari, IE 5 Mac, etc. It looks
totally wrong in IE Windows.
How can i get this page to look right?? I think it's an IE table centering
problem and i cannot for the life of me
Adriano Castro wrote:
I'm viewing it in Mozilla/Win and IE/Win and they look very similar.
There are just some alignment problems with the main image and the right
column navlinks. Are these the issues you're talking about?
If so take a look at the following page:
+
Mauricio Giraldo Arteaga wrote:
http://www.museoarqueologico.com
It's not 100% valid since it uses Flash.
We have this issue with subnavigation lists (click in Culturas
Precolombinas) because they don't show up the same in IE6 and Firefox
1.0.7 and we had to cram them up so that IE wouldnt
It's good, the only thing is if you are trying to avoid a horizontal
scrollbar at 800x600, you need to make it about 2 pixels more narrow.
--
--
C Montoya
rdpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com
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Hello all. I have already looked on WIKI, and haven't found exactly
what I am looking for. Having said that, I'm sure I'm not the first to
have this issue, and I am very curious to know if any of you have
experienced the same thing.
What I am getting at is the following:
http://www.virtuallee.co.uk/Azule/index_test.html
I'm still battling to figure out why the middle blue area (with Experts
in Project Finance text) is about 3px higher in Safari, Firefox (IE is
fine). I had to set that blue area as a negative (margin-top: -8px;) so
I'm definitely doing
I apologize ahead of time if this is not the right forum for this message.
I am looking for someone to help with UI and graphic design for several
projects. Currently, this work is being offered on a contract basis, per
project. Depending on work quality and re-location abilities, this could
Is there any way of making sure that a div doesn't float itself down
below a div set to float to its left when it gets too big? I have a
three column layout I am using as a template in Dreamweaver. When I
insert something like an image into the third column div that causes
it to expand
Well, after I read and read the pages you leave me and probe the code, I
obtain the same error. You can take a look at
http://www.jovenclub.cu/grm/index.php The DIV for images still appear
over other DIV elements. How can I fix them? They really look ugly.
Cheers
Adriano Castro wrote:
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote:
Your problem then becomes the fact that you've positioned the child divs
absolutely, which means they are removed from the flow of the page.
Thus, the container has no content in it to determine its height, and
shrinks up. To fix this,
At 10:34 -0600 10/11/05, Jeff D. Chastain wrote:
I apologize ahead of time if this is not the right forum for this message.
It is very definitely not the right forum for this message.
From the list policies (http://www.css-discuss.org/policies.html)
No solicitations of employment or requests
MANY thanks to those who replied on the list and privately with very helpful
observations and information about my site. I was dismayed to see that in
IE5/Mac there are serious problems, and I'm going to think about taking the
advice to assume hardly anyone uses that browser. I'll see if I can
stayed where it is. Otherwise, I have to critically size each image
or keep going back into the template and shaving off pixels from the
divs to the left.
First off, you're obviously having problems with IE. Right? Because
all the more modern browsers do the right thing and just have any
Thanks, Eric. It was just so nice when I had stripped away a ton of code and
had all these cells with no classes assigned or inline styling or anything
(literally just: tdX/td, whereas the old version that somebody else coded
looked like td align=center valign=middle bgcolor=E1E4E4span
John Guchemand wrote:
Hello all. I have already looked on WIKI, and haven't found exactly
what I am looking for. Having said that, I'm sure I'm not the first to
have this issue, and I am very curious to know if any of you have
experienced the same thing.
What I am getting at is the
Thanks, Eric. It was just so nice when I had stripped away a ton of code
and had all these cells with no classes assigned or inline styling or
anything (literally just: tdX/td, whereas the old version that
somebody else coded looked like td align=center valign=middle
bgcolor=E1E4E4span
The extra classes have
relevant names, so you shouldn't feel that they are obstructing your
quest
for purity.
I think the problem posed is that *every* td has the same thing, the
same thing, the same thing, so why should a class have to specified 40
times (number pulled from a hat) to style
Hello AD,
Hi John,
I'm not too sure I understand what your problem is. You say the #content
attaches itself to the bottom of the screen but I don't see that
happening here.
Really? That is odd. On every system I have tested it appears like I
said - with the content div extending all
Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:27:55 PM, CJ Larson wrote:
Making a colgroup for this city *one* time and being done with it is the
intuitive thing to do, but since it doesn't work... problem.
Have you tried it?
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StylingColumns (Combination method)
table
Hi,
Again, I know this is off topic (although I will use CSS to display the
timeline...) - but has anyone used a website project timeline for any
of their clients? I've been trying to find an example of one on the
Net, but just can't find anything relevant. I'm looking for something I
can
I'm not too sure I understand what your problem is. You say the #content
attaches itself to the bottom of the screen but I don't see that
happening here.
Really? That is odd. On every system I have tested it appears like I
said - with the content div extending all the way to the bottom of
Drawback is colgroup is only supported by IE and limited to width,
border, background and visibility styles. (I know the original poster
was designing for IE, but still...)
I think Eric Meyer had the right idea. I wouldn't advise using
adjacent sibling selectors. It's not very efficient.
At 6:34 PM + 11/10/05, Tracy Shorrock wrote:
Please contact me off list, so I don't irritate the Admins.
Too late, although people should indeed contact you off list if
they're going to insist on encouraging that sort of behavior.
If you post an off-topic message, that's irritating
Found a very good tutorial online [1]. Managed to get it working for IE
but Mozilla doesn't adjust the height of the container div. I'm a bit
lost here.
I think my problem is the one defined on PIE's How To Clear Floats
Without Structural Markup [2] but having tried the proposed
CJ Larson wrote:
I think the problem posed is that *every* td has the same thing, the
same thing, the same thing, so why should a class have to specified 40
times (number pulled from a hat) to style this one type of td? Now, if
only one city td needed to be special, a class there would be
Have you tried it?
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StylingColumns (Combination
method)
(Sorry you get this twice Steve; I sent it off list accidentally the
first time.)
I was referring to colgroup as specified in the original post, not
work-around methods (that consequently don't work
Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:59:25 PM, Dan Kletter wrote:
Drawback is colgroup is only supported by IE and limited to width,
border, background and visibility styles.
Thanks to it's non-standard layout engine IE doesn't have these limitations
on styling via COL. Nor do CSS2 browsers styling
so I am having a problem and I can't post an example right now cause i am
behind a firewall. I have a very simple hide/show javascript popup.
the popup is suposed to appear payed over on top of a form. however in ie 6
for pc the dropdowns appear on top of the poup, the input fields do not.
here
I have a problem with table. The thing is when I have a long text the
table is redimensioned and deform all my siet. Exists a way to fix this
using CSS ? Something like TD maxwith?
Cheers
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css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm looking for some best practices information on setting up external
style sheet(s) for a large web site that has highly variable design elements
from section to section.
Specifically, I am thinking about separating the CSS aspects controlling
layout (DIV margins, padding, etc) and display
Thomas French wrote:
A lesser question is: Is there any way to get some similar to work in NS
4.7?
http://pws.cablespeed.com/~tom.french/example1.html
Sure, but you need to decide what degree of support you want to include
for NN 4.7. Does the site need to look the same, or does it need
http://www.goldkeyhomeinspections.com/test/
What should I set differently so my picture changer works in IE - the
picture is there it is just not showing up.
I am sure it is some small thing that I am forgetting.
Thanks,
Carol F. Swinehart
I'm using XHTML 1.1 and I'd really like to have a construct like this:
#info *:last-child {margin-bottom: 0px; }
to set the bottom margin of the last element in the #info container to 0.
I seem to recall that lastChild is a valid entity in the W3C DOM, but
I'm having a devil of a time
It's possible, and pretty simple. You just use the solution from the
wiki, where you style the COL and IE picks it up, and use adjacent
siblings for standards-complient browsers.
This is what I'm trying to avoid, since I would rather not style for
individual browsers, which means it would be
Carol F. Swinehart wrote:
http://www.goldkeyhomeinspections.com/test/
What should I set differently so my picture changer works in IE - the
picture is there it is just not showing up.
It's an IE/win bug :-)
Try adding 'position: relative;' to the image in question, to force
IE/win to
On Nov 9, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Allison Bloodworth wrote:
What is the hack for the safari oversized background-repeat bug? I
seem to
be having this problem right now. I found this URL referred to on
another
page (http://www.holovaty.com/blog/archive/2003/01/09/2152), but
apparently
he
Hi,
I have read the article on Alistapart.com by Dan, and
understand how his method works. I wanted advice on
the best way to create the background image, including
getting the measurements right when using
percentages.(I don't presently have photoshop!). I am
developing my personal page with a
Is it better to
have a fixed width of say 760px or to use percentages
to set the margin to say 10% on the left and right. I
would appreciate any tips and advice. Thanks in
advance!
-Zach Byrd
Faux columns are ideal for fixed width layouts, such as 760
Afternoon Troy
You wrote
I'm looking for some best practices information on setting up external
style sheet(s) for a large web site that has highly variable design
elements
from section to section.
snipped
If anyone can recommend a good article, or site devoted to this topic, I
would
Thomas French wrote:
I am new to CSS and am having trouble getting css to work
consistently in different browsers.
A lesser question is: Is there any way to get some similar to work in
NS
4.7?
Hi Thomas,
This may help you address specific browsers issues while keeping your
stylesheets plain
Adriano Castro wrote:
but Mozilla doesn't adjust the height of the container div. I'm a bit
lost here.
I think my problem is the one defined on PIE's How To Clear Floats
Without Structural Markup [2] but having tried the proposed solutions I
still can't get it to work.
Ideas?
2.
Jim,
Inline solves the problem of a gap occurring when reducing the width but now
when the width is reduced, the right div goes below the left div. I would
like the right div to stay to the right of the left div, not below. The
right div can scrunch up or go off the right side of the screen and
Ok so this didn't turn out to be an CSS problem after all, but I've already
posted the problem here, and it certainly _looked_ like a CSS problem at
first, so here's what it was:
Norton Ad Blocker on the client's machine (and perhaps some other Net Nanny
type progs do the same) was removing
Hi,
I've Googled around and searched the CSS-d archive and can't find an answer
to this-thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide me.
I am having problems with some spans that are floated left in a container
div that is floated right in Opera 8.5:
Allison Bloodworth wrote:
I am having problems with some spans that are floated left in a
container div that is floated right in Opera 8.5:
http://eberkeley-dev.vcbf.berkeley.edu/ver10ajb/.
Opera had a problem that was related to width on floats, or rather
_lack of_ width. The nesting in
Thomas French wrote:
I would like the right div to stay to the right of the left div, not
below. The right div can scrunch up or go off the right side of the
screen and not be displayed if the browser window is not wide enough.
We usually apply a 'min-width' hack to IE/win to fix that
Hi,
I am working on a personal page that will serve as a
portfolio page and contact website. It will be in
two-column format. I have read advantages for both,
but was seeking advice on should I use absolute
positioning or floating? (or does it matter?) I
appreciate any insight on this topic!
Hi Curious,
Firstly, correction to dd style, add margin-left:10.25em;
Secondly, the semantics
dtMarge/dt
ddHomer's wife/dd
Your example would define the other way around, wouldn't it?
I believe your original requirement of name: value fits the example by Chris
above, and does not swap the
I tried setting the z-index style of the span to -1, but on Firefox, this
completely hides the span behind the pre.
I tried setting the span opacity's to 0.5,, but that makes both the text
and
the span blurred.
Can someone suggest a way to accomplish that on all browsers?
Change
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:17:47 +0800, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Allison Bloodworth wrote:
I am having problems with some spans that are floated left in a
container div that is floated right in Opera 8.5:
http://eberkeley-dev.vcbf.berkeley.edu/ver10ajb/.
Opera had a problem
Hi,
I am working on a personal page that will serve as a
portfolio page and contact website. It will be in
two-column format. I have read advantages for both,
but was seeking advice on should I use absolute
positioning or floating? (or does it matter?) I
appreciate any insight on this
Andrew Gregory wrote:
That's a bug in the later version 7 Operas. It was fixed in v8 - and
the page in question looks fine in my Opera 8.5/win ... just checked
in 8.0/win - that's good too. Perhaps the 8.5 was a typo for 7.5,
in which case specifying widths on the floats would fix the problem.
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