Re: [css-d] @media tv

2009-07-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ingo Chao wrote: How would a generic media types string look like for the visual media group in CSS2.1? @media screen, projection, handheld is this correct? 'tv' gets the fit to width treatment for medium resolution devices by Opera, and some 'screen' layouts - like mine - simply don't

Re: [css-d] clear floats is clearing my right hand column!!

2009-07-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Blake wrote: A long time ago I found an easy way to clear floats. [...] I hope it's a good method because I remember being really pleased because it's a lot easier than other methods that I'd found. In your case a change from clear: both to clear: left will work. However, having

Re: [css-d] Headline Background overlapping floated Div

2009-07-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tony Lush wrote: On this page http://tinyurl.com/mo88uz the headlines in the left column under Course Description go the full width of the containing Div and overlap the 30% width, right-floated Div to the right. Is there a way to prevent this? Try something along these lines... h3

Re: [css-d] IE7 bugs

2009-06-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Joseph Sims wrote: And the left sidebar carries white all the way down the page... obscuring the background that is supposed to create the faux columns look - example: http://www.titancom.net/dev/hec/JS/about.html. Can noone give me advice with this? Is it legal to bump a topic? It kind

Re: [css-d] negative margin in safari and Opera

2009-06-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
JGardner wrote: I am looking for information regarding how opera and safari handle negative margins. Same as Gecko (Firefox etc.) and IE. I am working on a site - http://www.lauramcguire.com/ which I used a negative margin to place the navigation at the top right of the web page. It

Re: [css-d] What's your preference -- fluid, elastic, or fixed?

2009-06-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Glow wrote: So, just out of curiosity -- what's your particular preference and why? Screens and UA windows come in all shapes and sizes and on ever more devices. The web is flexible, and so am I - with mediaqueries to catch edge cases for even more flexibility in the most capable User agents.

Re: [css-d] Drop Down Menus

2009-06-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Asha Nair wrote: www.faithlandchurch.org.au Add... #menu {clear: left;} ...to make IE8 render as intended. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org]

Re: [css-d] site check, particularly on ie6 ?

2009-05-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
snak detek+0r wrote: Index and all inside pages: Neither Opera or The IEs are capable of scaling line-height set in pixels. Try a raw number for line-height. wow. didn't even know i could do that. the w3 site doesn't even mention that you can use px, but everyone and their mom seem to,

Re: [css-d] IE and font size

2009-05-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Maxim Soloviev wrote: http://ares-pearl-b1.nakea.net/ Could you please help me figure out why text looks s big in IE6/7/8. Flawed markup in header. A span is not an empty, self-closing, element, and, unlike most other browsers, IE can't treat it as if it was and recover from this flaw.

Re: [css-d] h3 with layout is clearing a float in IE6

2009-05-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
lev rickards wrote: http://sandbox.hgci2.net/ Ideal case: 1) all div#comparisons h3's have layout 2) everything within div#comparisons stays to the right of the navigation list. Total width of h3 with padding and all is to large to fit, and IE6 doesn't handle overflow properly. Easiest

Re: [css-d] css or javascript hacks for firefox

2009-05-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: This part of the hack, |*:not(| causes a parsing error. Is this fixed in Firefox 3.5b4? I must admit that your hackery (possibly combining structural pseudo class support and parsing errors) is hackier than mine. :-) I'm not surprised :-) However, keep in mind that

Re: [css-d] IE 8

2009-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kathy Wheeler wrote: I've seen 'real' IE6's on two different machines give different results to each other :-( Change one or more settings in IE6, and get another result... Same goes for all browsers, so if one wants to know the outcome at the user-end one better test with a whole range of

Re: [css-d] positioning images on a background graphic

2009-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anthony L wrote: A question though: I thought the 1px border was just for debugging ... But if I comment out the #container border, the button images shift right to the top of the div ... any idea why? Collapsing margins... http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/box.html#collapsing-margins The easiest

Re: [css-d] column without tables or fixed width

2009-05-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jack Bates wrote: Does CSS support presenting the text in a straight up and down column? Yes, see... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_example_01_02.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] Getting absolutely positioned divs with bottom: auto to end together

2009-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Leibson wrote: www.thinkingmusic.ca/analyses I have used a copy of this page to exemplify one approach to solving your problems... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ml/test_09_0511.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/ml/test_09_0511_files/styles00.css Are these differences the result

Re: [css-d] Getting absolutely positioned divs with bottom: auto to end together

2009-05-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Leibson wrote: www.thinkingmusic.ca/analyses You guys aren't 'mere web developers' -- you're mathematicians! :-) When dealing with browsers that's definitely an advantage. Apart from that; when one has created and modified a few thousand layouts, the only problem is which solution(s)

Re: [css-d] Stretching in IE7, even worse in IE6.

2009-05-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul ODonovan wrote: Hi, my name is Paul :) this is my first post - Welcome. www.blueprintdesign.ie In IE7 there is unwanted space occuring in the place where my images originally were before I positioned them. The negative effect of 'hasLayout'[1] in old IE: the paragraph expands to

Re: [css-d] hovering action

2009-05-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Oszkar Ambrus wrote: The problem is, that when my cursor is above the second navigation level, the main link (e.g. Our Fellowship) goes back to normal state on my website. [2] http://covenantfellowshipgalway.uuuq.com Add :hover to the li containing the anchor and sub-levels, like so...

Re: [css-d] weird white block appears in bg

2009-05-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Todd Bingham wrote: I put the content in a container div i the center. ... But as you can see from the sample url, a strange white box appears under the container div at the bottom leftargghh!! http://www.design-conquer.net/GoodNewsEtc/stories/jackson.html# Delete the fixed height on

Re: [css-d] IE 6 layout issues

2009-05-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Bailey wrote: http://www.widemannviolins.com/index.php Suggestion: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/db/test_09_0507.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/db/test_09_0507_files/layout00.css http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/db/test_09_0507_files/menu.css

Re: [css-d] html html

2009-05-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Vincent Pollard wrote: html #IDNameofIFrame html { overflow-y: auto !important; } It is legal in css2.1 to write html html like this? Legal, yes, but such a selector chain doesn't point to any element since there's no 'html' element inside 'html'. Selector chains can only express parent --

Re: [css-d] Fluid Page + Centered 80% Div + Thumbnails

2009-05-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Court Kizer wrote: http://courtkizer.com/screenshots/Untitled.png At this point I'm not even sure it's possible. Suggest you start here... http://www.brunildo.org/test/ImgThumbIBL2b.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] Centered text positioned incorrectly in IE7

2009-05-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Hanks wrote: Hmm, alright. Can you or anyone else on the list suggest a better way of making this work? I'm not sure where to begin... For cross-browser appearance in all somewhat standard-aware browsers - including IE6/7 in Strict mode, the following approach will work. - Add left and

Re: [css-d] Centered text positioned incorrectly in IE7

2009-05-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Hanks wrote: Alright, I took care of the markup problems, so everything validates. It's been put up in its updated form: http://www.selfsoothingsoftware.com Good. Makes it much easier to work with. I was trying to keep the main text column at a consistent width, and deal with an

Re: [css-d] IE problems - karst

2009-05-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Blake wrote: 1. The mainphoto clears the side content in IE. 2. The padding (or margin) I have put on the menu is making the container stretch in IE. http://www.pendulum8.com/karst.test/ To solve those IE6 problems, add... * html .twoColFixRtHdr #container {overflow-x: hidden;} *

Re: [css-d] position issue in ie6/7

2009-05-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Göldi wrote: http://allesneumachtdermai.wallisellerlauf.ch/ Is the order of the tags relevant when positioning some of them absolute? In IE6/7, yes. Old IE is buggy :-) You can fix IE6/7 by adding a br / between top_menu and breadcrumb... /div br / div id=breadcrumb ...with the following

Re: [css-d] Closest thing to Conditional Comments Safari / Firefox

2009-05-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Court Kizer wrote: I know that putting -webkit in front of css will make it safari only. Could I do the same thing -moz-margin-top, or is does mozilla only allow this for CSS 3? Such prefixes are reserved for vendor specific extensions to CSS, and the extension names and effects are not

Re: [css-d] Centered text positioned incorrectly in IE7

2009-05-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Hanks wrote: http://www.selfsoothingsoftware.com The second, and more pressing problem, is that my main content (the text column and floated boxes) appears completely out of whack in IE. The boxes are approximately in the right place, but IE7 is trying to center the paragraphs of

Re: [css-d] css or javascript hacks for firefox

2009-05-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ido dekkers wrote: thehttp://test3.dekkers.net/login.htm is the problem what i don't understand is why not use the fix? I see no problem with the fix in your case, because of the way it is built up and used. The simplified selector for Gecko 1.9.1 + suggested by Philippe, will actually make

Re: [css-d] css or javascript hacks for firefox

2009-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
BTW: which known bug? Just in case there are better options. namely bug 50630: float should be as high as previous line box https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50630 That bug is indeed old and well known, and has caused problems all along. Don't know of any option but to hack back

Re: [css-d] css or javascript hacks for firefox

2009-05-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: If this is this bug http://css-class.com/test/css/visformatting/floats/floats-width-auto.htm Although dealing with vertical alignment of floats, our test case isn't revealing just one bug. Reordering the markup is the old solution, and it'll still work - if that's an

Re: [css-d] Creating your own stylesheet for a website

2009-05-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Atkinson, Sarah wrote: I go to a website fairly regularly and their styles are horrible. It's just too painful for me to look at anymore. Is there away for me to create a Stylesheet for it and have my browser automatically override there styles? Yes, but how automatically it is activated

Re: [css-d] css or javascript hacks for firefox

2009-05-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ido dekkers wrote: is there a css hack for ver 3 and below or something using javascript? i need to to fix a known bug only in FF without effecting other standard complaint browsers? If you really want/need to hack Gecko versions, yes...

Re: [css-d] menu issue

2009-04-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ian Young wrote: http://db-studio.venus.titaninternet.co.uk/index.php Although there is no change to the html, I have had to add an extra style code in the contact and portfolio pages as the menu sits a few pixels higher than does than it does on the other pages. Some pages have a

Re: [css-d] Old IE6 Problem again

2009-04-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nic Pulford wrote: Here is the page http://www.leadersmith.org.uk/tnbda/about.htm the thing that does wrong is the Case Studies list in the bottom of the left column. IE6' broken 'overflow' handling. Add... #seperator {overflow: visible;} ...to make sure IE6 keeps that container's

Re: [css-d] Display problem with IE7

2009-04-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ansari Samir wrote: And David, we are not using Image there, it is an anchor tag and we have given background image to that anchor tag. Nonsense. There's an img element inside that anchor, and its src attribute is addressing this image... http://jobspert.com/qmjobsinc/imgsSys/jb_logo.png

Re: [css-d] Sticky footer - double decker possible?

2009-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anne E. Shroeder wrote: http://www.language-works.com/swim/comp.jpg http://www.language-works.com/swim/stickyfooter.htm Is it possible to code this? Think so... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/aes/test_09_0419.html http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/aes/test_09_0419_files/main.css Method

Re: [css-d] popup image, a element, href, Safari and IE7

2009-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brian Funk wrote: http://www.stoneladder.ca/sandbox/css/csspopup.html It works in Firefox 3.0.8, IE8 and Opera9 but IE7 chokes when the href attribute is not present and Safari for Windows works not at all. Missing closing bracket on 'a:hover img' throws Safari off. This error is reported

Re: [css-d] popup image, a element, href, Safari and IE7

2009-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brian Funk wrote: http://www.stoneladder.ca/sandbox/css/csspopup.html The hasLayout trigger doesn't seem to work. Ok, I overlooked that I had a double-fix in there, and contributed IE7's positive response to the wrong fix. Here's another dirty trick to make IE7 behave...

Re: [css-d] ie8 bug? The container div is inexplicably jumping around. Please help!

2009-04-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Noah Learner wrote: Is this an ie8 bug? No, it is intentional. The vertical scrollbar is removed when pages are shorter than the browser-window, making the available window wider. Auto-centering (in your stylesheet) then makes pages jump half the scrollbar-width left or right depending on how

Re: [css-d] Vertically centering text in a paragraph

2009-04-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
does IE support display:table or display:table cell though? I could have sworn it didn't. - IE7 and older does not support CSS table. - IE8 does support CSS table as well as any other browser - when in full standards mode. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] IE Fix For Floated Netflix-Style Links?

2009-04-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
The Ferrett wrote: I did this by wrapping the elements in a div (with an assigned width) and then by assigning a left margin calculated to push the div out into the center of the column. This works in every browser but, you guessed it, IE. Problem is, in IE 7 that margin appears to be not

Re: [css-d] What can I do to improve this CSS?

2009-04-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
trevor bayliss wrote: http://tinyurl.com/clg668 I would be very greatful if someone could have a look and advise me what to do, Thank you, Regards, Trev Apply some shorthand and combined selectors, maybe, to reduce the amount of redundant styling. For instance... .nav { padding-right : 0;

Re: [css-d] Firefox bug on on new Macs?

2009-04-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Leibson wrote: I used Firefox to view my website on a friend's zillion-pixel-wide new Mac, yesterday, and I was astonished to find that all elements on all pages had a significantly increased width, so that the design was effectively spread, horizontally, to fit the (maximized)

Re: [css-d] Firefox bug on on new Macs?

2009-04-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Leibson wrote: [...] Related questions: why, if using an li without an ordered or unordered list is not allowed, does it work on my site? What are the negative consequences of using it that way? 1: you're relying on browsers' error correction, which may or may not give the same

Re: [css-d] Problem with a header image in Opera 9.64

2009-04-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Krystian - Sunlust wrote: http://maleconcept.com/test/ Has the header image centered right, but on opera it slides a bit to the left. Something strange about that '.gif', but only Opera (all versions - at least back to Op7.20) seems to react on it. If I send the image through PhotoShop

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rebecca Mazur wrote: If someone could just recognize and name the bug for me, that would be a help, as then I could go searching for solutions. http://www.kenyon.edu/x12305.xml The bug is clear enough, but finding a fix isn't. I found it easier to reproduce the problem in IE6 - multiple

Re: [css-d] Intermittent IE 7 problem

2009-04-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rebecca Mazur wrote: Have you had experience with browsers breaking on those particular validation errors? No. Old IE will eat, ignore or correct such minor errors, same as other browsers. I have seen IE do many strange things when served compacted source-code though, and your markup is

Re: [css-d] AP's and IE

2009-04-09 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan King wrote: Is there a fix for making IE impose my absolute positioned divs? http://www.helixdesign.ca Yes. IE6' disappearing A:P element next to a float bug can be problematic, and not easy to fix in the stylesheet other than by abandoning either the A:P or the float styling. Separate

Re: [css-d] Stuck in Quirks Mode

2009-04-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Josiah Sprague wrote: The system which we are forced to use generates pages that declare the doctype in quirksmode. The problem is that quirksmode in IE breaks my CSS. Any ideas on how to work around in this situation? http://www.uakron.edu/groups/asg/asgtemplate_copy.php When stuck in

Re: [css-d] shifting divs in ie6 and ie7

2009-04-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tony Zanella wrote: http://xtf.lib.virginia.edu/xtf/view?docId=2005_Q4_3/uvaBook/tei/z00175.xml In ie6, the div id=mainContent is far lower down on the page than in Firefox, and in ie7, the same div jumps over to the right. Problematic to diagnose and correct a layout that is based on

Re: [css-d] IE6 peculiarity - Also IE8

2009-04-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: IE8 beta 2 (8.0.6001) is showing it's missing content bug quite consistently on this page. http://www.artworkers.net/sandd/chinbrk1.html Problems with missing content seem to have been solved in IE8 final - at least I haven't been able to provoke those bugs through

Re: [css-d] sidebar box does not line up correctly in ie7

2009-04-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Brasted wrote: The text blurb does not line up o the left in ie7. http://www.adriennesgardenworks.com/test.php Float gets hooked up on element above - the menu - in IE. Add... div.sb_left_box {clear: left;} ...to make it line up in IE7, and an additional... div.sb_left_box {display:

Re: [css-d] Weird nav menu problem in IE6

2009-04-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Luc wrote: http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/New_site_layout/liquidnav1.html When hovering over the nav, sometimes the logo image disappears, the text on the page shifts, the nav tabs shift,... - text on the page shift is caused only on window-width wide enough to trigger max-width in the

Re: [css-d] accessible background images

2009-04-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brian Hazelton wrote: [...] when i disable background images, the body text disappears because i use a white font color because the background image is almost black...how would i keep it white but make sure people with images disabled can see the text? Normal procedure is to use a dark

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Martyn Merrett wrote: Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes? Yes, in time IE6 will disappear - the sooner the better, but the suggested 'options for not supporting ie6' are time-consuming and don't provide quick relief for

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Virgilio Quilario wrote: working on css to deal with ie6 is really time consuming. not to mention the troubles of getting ie6 browser for testing. Both TredoSoft multiple versions of IE... http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE ...and IETester... http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Martyn Merrett wrote: Eric sent a message out earlier not to discuss/debate this further on this list. Apologies for any inconvenience and lets keep our IE6 thoughts to ourselves, eh? We're not discussing/debating the article that initiated this thread. At least I am discussing how to

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
AG wrote: Bill, thanks for your reply. In your suggestion, it appears to me that if you don't float the li, all links will stack up in the center of the container. Not so. Inline-block lines up inline - in line, and the whole menu can then be centered within body or whatever element you want

Re: [css-d] Floating/Layering a .SWF video over an image.

2009-04-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
RHYAN TAYLOR wrote: I have a beta-site, *www.freestyle-la.net*, and I need help getting the .swf file to position properly within the main content area with Internet Explorer. You will have more luck if you replace the non-standard layer with div id=layer, and modify the CSS accordingly.

Re: [css-d] Positioning images and wrapping text...

2009-03-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Beaudoin wrote: http://www.mhinonline.org/dev. You mean like... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mb/test_09_0331.html ...or did you have something else in mind? regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __

Re: [css-d] Splitting the Center Column Into Two Columns?

2009-03-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
The Ferrett wrote: http://www.starcitygames.com/SCG_6/test.html The problem: my boss wants the capability to occasionally split a given row in half, so we have two news items sitting next to each other on a single row, just as you'd split a table cell in two. Somewhat like this, I

Re: [css-d] Positioning images and wrapping text...

2009-03-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Beaudoin wrote: Is there a way to precisely position an image and have the wrap follow? Precisely can be a problem since hardly anything can be relied upon as precise in something as fluid as a web design. But, yes, you can get the effects _I think_ you're after, if you let go of the

Re: [css-d] Is this possible with CSS?

2009-03-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_43.html Works as well in Fx 3. You could improve it: set the generated content to display:inline-block and give it a small margin-right. This will improve bullet positioning in much older Geckos too, when the right -mos- replacement

Re: [css-d] Float problem in Firefox

2009-03-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gaurav Sharma wrote: http://gauravsharma.uuuq.com First: your example keeps all IE/win versions in a rendering mode equivalent to that of IE5.5 - Quirks Mode, and doesn't allow for any improvements made in IE6, IE7 and IE8. Not very wise to block all progress made to IE, so I hope you don't do

Re: [css-d] Is this possible with CSS?

2009-03-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: [...] Using generated content has a lot to go, if you want a simple type of bullet. More decorative list markers are unfortunately still a graphics thing (unless SVG can be used ! Hmm, inline SVG, yumyum). Should also be possible to resize images inserted through

Re: [css-d] ie/7 image issue

2009-03-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Oh, and IE6 stretches all images to perfect squares at first load on slow connections, and the min/max script makes it freeze and die under certain conditions. The latter is usually not a problem, but the former may still be. Not noticeable

Re: [css-d] Is this possible with CSS?

2009-03-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Geoffrey Hoffman wrote: Unrelated question... what is the purpose of: /*![CDATA[*/ See: http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-xml-20001006#sec-cdata-sect I mark up for XHTML served as 'application/xhtml+xml', and then serve it as 'text/html' since IE doesn't support it otherwise. See:

Re: [css-d] Is this possible with CSS?

2009-03-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I mark up for XHTML served as 'application/xhtml+xml', and then serve it as 'text/html' since IE doesn't support it otherwise. Close tabs mistake :-) For XML capable browsers: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_06_03.xhtml HTML for IE: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents

Re: [css-d] ie/7 image issue

2009-03-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: Mac os x 10.4.11 parallels xp ie/7 (only). Confirmed in IE7(XP) *and* IE8(Vista). Think it's a flaw in how Trident apply 'max-width' - as 'width' before checking if 'max-width' should take effect or not. http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/yl/index.html What to do? I

Re: [css-d] Page Check

2009-03-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
JWN wrote: I'd appreciate it if some of you with IE 8 would have a look at www.nannery.net and let me know if there are any problems. Looks a bit strange on narrow windows, but the same in all browsers - including IE8. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] Is this possible with CSS?

2009-03-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Geoffrey Hoffman wrote: Specifically, I want the li bullet to turn a color when I hover on the a inside it. With CSS only, yes, but browser support is a bit weak. As an example: we can play with generated content... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_43.html ...and get the effect you want - in

Re: [css-d] IE list problem

2009-03-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Climis, Tim wrote: I just noticed this today, and I can't figure out what's going on. It looks right in FF and IE8. But in IE7, all the menu text is indented from the graphic. http://www.indiana.edu/~intlserv/ Can't analyze it in depth because scripts don't survive download, but for IE7,

Re: [css-d] Top half of image map button not active in IE

2009-03-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ian Piper wrote: http://www.tellura.co.uk/ruberyowen/contact-us.php On this page, if you look at the Rozone button (top right) it shows an orange dotted border on hover, as it should. However in IE 6 under Windows 2000 and IE7 under Vista the top half of this button is not clickable.

Re: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation Bar Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Gruber wrote: http://www.international.ucla.edu/ On the top navigation bar the tabs fit nice an flush on pc browsers (IE 7, IE8, Firefox, Chrome) but on Mac there there is spacing on the right of the About Us tab that doesn't stretch to fill the bar on the right side in Safari and

Re: [css-d] max-width in Safari/IE

2009-03-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jack Blankenships wrote: Apparently there was a table there as well, and max-width does not apply to a table very nicely in Safari or Internet Explorer. Can anyone offer some more explanation on this? Have only tested for CSS table a year or so back, and it's a known behavior in Safari 3. I

Re: [css-d] max-width in Safari/IE

2009-03-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jack Blankenships wrote: It seems to be that the table within the div or body element is pushing the content out beyond the specified widths in Internet Explorer. [...] If you have problems: link to the case, page, you have problems with. Bits of CSS don't make much sense without it.

Re: [css-d] forcing IE6 to respect div width

2009-03-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Giuseppe Craparotta wrote: http://www.giuseppecraparottacv.co.uk/doubts/about.html Is it any way to force IE6 to consider the image as going out of the div's width instead of widening the div accordingly to it. Yes. Declare overflow: hidden on container and position: relative on overflowing

Re: [css-d] David Laakso's site in Firefox 2.x/Firefox 3.x

2009-03-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
david wrote: I did with a Ctrl-click on the Reload button. Should do the trick -- and does at my end. I don't know what prevented expected functionality at your end. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __

Re: [css-d] just center

2009-03-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
MEM wrote: I'm confused, what's going on on this code? Simple logic, coded in jscript and expanded/explained here... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_20.html#item3 ...and there's a link to Microsoft's information on the subject in my page...

Re: [css-d] just center

2009-03-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
MEM wrote: Thanks for the IE8 info. I didn't know about that. IE8 still supports IE-expressions in its two backwards compatibility modes - emulating IE7 standard mode and IE5.5/6 quirks mode. No need to hide them from IE8 in super-standard mode though, since it simply ignores them then. Most of

Re: [css-d] 3 columns of text, but MINIMAL wrapping, possible?

2009-03-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Mueller wrote: The difficult part is that I want these columns to NOT wrap as much as possible, spread across the width of the browser window and have equal amounts of whitespace between. I know there's a display: table declaration, but I understand no IE browsers pay attention to

Re: [css-d] Site Check: Can this DIV be vertically centered in the viewport?

2009-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: I built this site, http://www.isadoratang.com/index.php, but I've been trying to determine if I can center the div id=page vertically in the viewport. Yes, I think it is possible with CSS (I seem to recall a method Georg Sortun created but can't find it at the moment)

Re: [css-d] David Laakso's site in Firefox 2.x/Firefox 3.x

2009-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
david wrote: Looked at it in FF 3.0.4 on Linux with JS on. The first time I went (with JS turned off) the About section was expanded. After I turned JS on, the About section was collapsed, and clicking on About did NOTHING beyond put a dotted horizontal line above and below it. After

Re: [css-d] Site Check: Can this DIV be vertically centered in the viewport?

2009-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Stephen Tang wrote: Will this work on a DIV with a declared height? I'll see what happens to my site when I remove my declared height on the DIV. Check the demos (links on top of side column in my article), and, yes, it'll work literally no matter what - when done right. The advantage is

Re: [css-d] New Member: wild card question

2009-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave Miers wrote: I often use a * {margin: 0; padding: 0; border: 0; } as a starting point and for the most part saves me lots of extra css code, headaches, and time for layout with great cross browser/platform support. However sometimes when entering content in what is basically a

Re: [css-d] just center

2009-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
MEM wrote: The hard part on this is that, when I look the source code on this last link, I get a lot of code that I don't get. Ignore it, and use your own visual styling. Is this the reason why this link http://nuvemk.com/index4.html doesn't show thinks centered on firefox? Yes, since

Re: [css-d] just center

2009-03-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
MEM wrote: Ok. I have comment this two lines: Now it seems to work in FF. /*height: 20em; */ /*width: 30em; */ If this is OK, I will try to understand the IE part now. Height isn't needed but you'll need the width on #centered. Otherwise you just get a container as wide as the viewport

Re: [css-d] David Laakso's site in Firefox 2.x/Firefox 3.x

2009-03-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: Stephen Tang wrote: http://www.chelseacreekstudio.com/yl/index.html Did you click the last list item about? If you did click it and nothing happened, do you have javascript enabled? FWIW, your menu works just fine with links, expansion / collapsing and all, in all

Re: [css-d] Text breaking out in IE7

2009-03-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Del Wegener wrote: http://www.edi-cp.com/newweb/sandbox.php In FF the text wraps nicely. In IE7 it does not. Padding on the left is ignored and wrapping is sometimes one word to late. What is needed to make IE7 play nicely? IE7 does play nicely, but you have hacked in a failure :-)

Re: [css-d] text wrapping problem

2009-03-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bilgehan Maras, wrote: http://www.film.com.tr/listtest.html On firefox and safari everything is fine but as usual there is a problem with IE 6 and IE7. IE wraps the text strangely. Try adding... li a {white-space : nowrap;} Of course: your example doesn't look anything like your

Re: [css-d] Equal heights solutions

2009-03-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
bruce.som...@web.de wrote: to suit the constraints of CSS implementations What is to be the successor to CSS that will actually solve the open problems and enable web designers? None, since this is about implementation. CSS may need another level, or five, and will probably get them over

Re: [css-d] 2 css interfering using conditional comments

2009-03-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
rose red wrote: I tried them every possible ( or did I forgot one ? ) way around the last 10 days: [...] doesn't work ;-( It does when done right. However, looking at your stylesheets it becomes clear that you are trying to serve IE6 complete styles instead of just corrections, so you are

Re: [css-d] WAS : Size calculations

2009-03-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ib Jensen wrote: And changing em to % is a good idea ?? A safer idea. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ --

Re: [css-d] Display problems in Firefox

2009-03-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ansari Samir wrote: Please visit the link for the display www.samruz.com/jb/PostJob.html Please view the page in Firefox and IE to see the problem. Replace... #register_main_content {display: inline-table;} ...with... #register_main_content {overflow: hidden;} ...and Gecko will line up

Re: [css-d] WAS : Size calculations

2009-03-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ib Jensen wrote: http:/ikjensen.dk/test/ Where is IE hiding the text ?? Stacked behind the page-background. Add... #menu-frame {position: relative;} ...to bring it up front. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [css-d] Clear: Both DIV misbehaving in IE7

2009-03-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Knowles wrote: This problem is only occurring in IE7, the page displays as I would expect in both FF3, Safari and Chrome. Will need live example in order to debug. IE7 has too many clear related bugs. You can look for something similar to your problem, and possible solutions to it,

Re: [css-d] Font size dilemma

2009-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
david wrote: I don't expect Office 2007 use to establish itself, but that's just my opinion. May well be right. For instance: OpenOffice is officially recommended as alternative to / upgrade-replacement for MS Office(s) and other proprietary office software in my country. The bottom line

Re: [css-d] Font size dilemma

2009-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tim Climis wrote: I have a related question, because when I first took up CSS in my designs in 2002 or so, I used to size my fonts in points. That was what word processing programs did it in, so that was how I did it. I gradually learned through online reading that that was not the

Re: [css-d] Size calculations

2009-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ib Jensen wrote: How do I change these measurements to: em What are those hypothetical '%' you want to convert to hypothetical 'em', relative to? That is: what is your hypothetical 100% starting-width? You can't convert anything to 'em' without having an absolute starting point. regards

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