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S O M E T H I N G S T R A N G E I S H A P P E N I N G
2/3/99
Quote of the Week
"Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't."
--Mark Twain
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Rant of the Week: a flying craf of your own
Every week we pick the wackiest,
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Shuffling For Clinton
Paul Craig Roberts January 27, 1999
Before senators vote to acquit a president who has degraded our
highest political office and the law of the land, they should sit down
together with Christabel Bielenberg's story of life in National
Socialist Germany.
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WELCOME TO THE FOURTH REICH
by Michael J. Woodman
We as a people have ignored and abhorred the truth of this century. We
have forgotten the Third Reich so we are moving to the brink of the
fourth Reich. Not in a reunified Germany, but here in America.
In order to have a new
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At 04:41 PM 2-2-1999 -0800, Steve posted:
On 2 Feb 99, at 7:18, Andrew Gingery wrote:
One report of this spraying I read came from a woman who
worked at some factory. snip
This article originally (as published on SNETNEWS) had the
following header -- where there may have
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What does this new "[ctrld]" thingy signify ?
(as in: "[CTRL] [ctrld] [CTRL]")
How / when is it used ?
(or is it a new listserv virus?)
BK
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Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and
Banking Transactions Spying, Part XVIII
by J. Orlin Grabbe
If the death of Vince Foster has been satisfactorily investigated,
then what was the source of the $286,000
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Date sent: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:01:17 -0800
From: David Jinks and Paula Sommerville [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[M-TRAC - MSAA] Riddle me this
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Do you REALLY write Frasier?? What happens to Daphne and Niles in the
next series??
Brown, Jeremy wrote:
This message contains more text than QuickMail can display.
The complete text has been enclosed as a file.
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You know, this whole thing takes me back to the
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On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Steve Wingate wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't care if this IS rocket
science...if they
were running a for-profit business they would have all been canned years ago.
Dave
LOL! Man, that's for SURE...and if it was their
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Subj:Daschle Puts Nearly 300 CRS Reports on Internet
Date: 99-02-02 15:00:22 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Ruskin)
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Multiple recipients of list CONG-REFORM)
Congressional Reform
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Hi
I'm new here and this is my first post. I would say that my first impression
is to run and hide, because it all seems quite aggressive, sometimes personal
and that's a problem for me as I'm a survivor of abuse, but also have interest
in conspiracy theory, especially cult /
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It's a show. A circus for the sheep.(le)
Rocket science is elementary.
Steve
On 3 Feb 99, at 2:29, MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Steve Wingate wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't care if this IS rocket
science...if they
were
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Published Monday, February 1, 1999, in the San Jose Mercury News
VOICES OF OUR TIME: TERRY SENDGRAFF
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Improving ties to earth is reason for optimism
``From your perspective, what have been some of the most important developments of this
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In a message dated 2/1/99 9:42:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
THE Israeli Prime Minister caused uproar yesterday with his
election slogan, "a strong leader for a strong people",
which critics said echoed Nazi and fascist propaganda.
Avraham Burg,
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Howard R. Davis III wrote:
Again, in the concept of "Free Speech" resides, implicitly,
"responsibility".
Where did you get this? Responsibility? Who is to judge what is
responsible free speech? Please define that so we can judge whether or
not you fulfill
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Source - Richard wrote:
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Again, the lack of knowledge on this list astonishes me. None of you can
manage to get a grip on what a Libertarian actually is!!
It is sometimes hard for non-libertarians to understand why libertarians
feel the way they do.
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flw wrote:
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What i find most interesting with this current
debate is the distinct
lack of knowledge being displayed across the CTRL
community. In particular
regarding the rise of fascism in Britain (i know
for sure we have a large
number of UK members
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From: The Progressive Review [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:48 PM
Subject: UNDERNEWS Feb 2
UNDERNEWS
From the Progressive Review
February 1, 1999
The Progressive Review 1739 Conn. Ave. NW
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From wsws.org
WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain
The American right and Scottish nationalism
By Steve James
3 February 1999
Staffordshire University research fellow, Dr. Euan Hague, spent four years
in America researching the marketing of "Scottishness" by
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: Subject: Private Matters
: Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 4:48 PM
:
: From the New Republic
:
: February 15, 1999
:
: Private Matters
:
: By Peter Beinart
:
: In weeks or even days, Monica Lewinsky's yearlong stranglehold on
American
: politics will end. A vote will be
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From wsws.org
WSWS : News Analysis : South Central America
Chileans condemn Thatcher Foundation's defence of Pinochet
By Chris Marsden
3 February 1999
"Those who know that violations of human rights occurred in Chile, those
who know what happened and saw it, will take it
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From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Pentagon Wants Emergency Authority Within USA
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In a message dated 2/2/99 7:10:38 PM Eastern
From the Offices of: Rumor Mill News Agency
"The Uncensored National Rumor"
E-mail Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will FOXNews Run the
Juanita Broderick Story?
Tuesday 02.02.99 RMNews RMNews sent the following
fax to Matt Drudge on January 28th:
X DRUDGE REPORT X 02/02/99 22:08 UTC X
EXCLUSIVE: WHITE HOUSE PRESSURES 2ND NETWORK NOT TO AIR 'JANE DOE' STORY
White House spokesman Joe Lockhart personally warned a news network on
Tuesday not to air a story on Juanita Broaddrick, the DRUDGE REPORT has
learned.
The
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From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] List Participation
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In a message dated 2/2/99 10:13:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL
"Worth $1.4 billion, Mellon came in 124th on Forbes' list of the richest
Americans."
Philanthropist Paul Mellon Dies
By CARL HARTMAN
.c The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Paul Mellon, whose inherited fortune enabled him to provide
Americans with Van Goghs and Cezannes, the Cape
DeLay Criticized for '94 Deposition
By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT
.c The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Aides to House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, assailing reports
questioning the truthfulness of statements he made in a civil deposition, on
Tuesday attributed the controversy to the
The Scoop - http://www.bobharris.com/
Hi -- usually I write with a lot of humor. Sometimes, when I'm maybe a
little too close to the subject, I don't or can't or whatever.
This week is one of those times...
THE SCOOP for February 1, 1999
___
Ever Look A Homeless
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990202_xex_why_kardashi.shtml
Robalini's Note: My understanding is the cover story article was for Time. My
understanding is that Time also was attempting to rewrite the story to
implicate Simpson, a tactic that Bosco refused.
THE O.J. COVER-UP
Who's czarry now?
by columnist Rob Morse
San Francisco Examiner, Feb. 2, 1999
America was settled by people escaping czars, kings and
other despots with armies at their disposal. Nowadays the
czarist threat is strictly domestic.
We already have a drug czar whose troops wage a
Listers:
I appreciate primary research a great deal after working for years in
academia and anthropology. This to me is the essence of any litigation
and mind control victim's cries for reality. "Original" documentation
from fed archives ought to chronicle every victim's cries for
Report: US Banks Gave Nazis Assets
By MARILYN AUGUST
.c The Associated Press
PARIS (AP) -- Five U.S. banks operating in France during World War II handed
over Jewish accounts to the Nazi occupiers, according to a report released
Tuesday on the looting of Jewish assets.
In the report
Netanyahu Disputes CIA Over Release
JERUSALEM (AP) -- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu challenged CIA
officials Monday to disprove his claims that the Palestinians have released
Islamic militants suspected in the bombing deaths of Americans.
Palestinian officials have vehemently
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990202_xcsof_clintons_s.shtml
President Clinton has waged an information war against America.
Data accumulated inside the White House has taken prisoners,
destroyed lives and provided valuable bounty for criminals. The
war is designed to limit
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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Impeached POTUS
President's Lawyer Friend "Hiding Vital Evidence"
Vernon Jordan keeps it all under his hat
VERNON JORDAN, the middleman in the alleged witness
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In a message dated 99-02-03 10:05:28 EST, you write:
On Tuesday, DeLay's communications director, Michael Scanlon, issued a
statement saying: ``We were approached by news organizations 72 hours ago
and
asked to respond to inquiries dating back over a decade. Our political
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from alt.conspiracy
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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Subject: Intelligence Analysis
From: Ralph McGehee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 1999 09:15 EST
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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Subject: Operation Garden Plot 2//FEMA//Alien Armageddon Centers!
From: "Art Wholeflaffer A. S. A. " [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, Feb 3, 1999 01:27 EST
Message-id: 798q8o$td2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operation: Garden Plot
AUDREY'S MISSILES
A newsletter dedicated to the peaceful
reform of the United States government.
BILL'S BUDDIES
Bill Clinton's contacts with the drug cartels and with organized
crime have now become so obvious that any American taking even a casual
interest in the news would
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Well, I wondered what happened to Hawk. His replies (the ones I saw) so
thoroughly showed up the fallacies of the arguments of the people he was
debating that I'm not overly surprised he was kicked off the list. Too bad.
I guess we're spiraling down to the
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Hey, SnowOwl, Looks like all you pro-aborts are finally getting some of your
own medicine. With the blood of 38,000,000 plus human beings on your hands
(aborted babies - just like Dr. Slepian was "aborted" after the third
trimester) --- you now see the same forces closing in on
German Prince Denies Nazi Tilt
HAMBURG, Germany (AP) -- Prince Ernst August of Hanover, recently married to
Princess Caroline of Monaco, will take ``all appropriate legal action''
against Germany's Bild newspaper over allegations his family had links to the
Nazi regime, his office said.
In a
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Is it me or does this whole thing sound like it was lifted directly from the
plot of last summer's "X-files" movie? I'm not saying that there may not be
something to this, it just seems like every time we here about this stuff
its in the form of "RUN FOR THE HILLS, FEMA IS
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This was not posted to alarm folks but as an awareness.
A question to ask would be - Cui Bono?
Om
K
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In a message dated 99-02-03 11:57:56 EST, you write:
s it me or does this whole thing sound like it was lifted directly from the
plot of last summer's "X-files" movie?
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In a message dated 99-02-03 11:28:45 EST, you write:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to be "free to discuss suspicions about anyone or any
group, it would be grand."
You are. What is your big revelation or suspicion you have to relate?
And what is the benefit?
Om
K
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From: Mike Moxley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 5:50 AM
Subject: Shuffling For Clinton
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Shuffling For Clinton
Paul Craig Roberts January 27, 1999
(SNIP)
The Hitlerization of Germany was achieved by
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Hi Meg,
I mostly lurk also...it's a tough list, folks are very serious, maybe more so than
the issues. As much as I do not participate, I still "learn" a great deal on this
list, there are little gems strewn here and there, some morsels so fine it is
worth filtering through all
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Richard makes some good points as far as it
goes.
My criticism is that his examples
of fascism are too one dimensional. He
basically
relates to "bottom up" fascism. What
we are experiencing now in the good ole USA is
"top down" fascism.
A long term plan through a
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SkeptiNews 990203a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question
: Passages starting with : are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
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# Psyops: When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing. WASHINGTON
"Gentlemen! We have called you together to
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In regard to the holographic projection technology, it seems reasonable to
conclude that at least some of the UFO sightings can be attributed to this.
ME
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From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:00 AM
To:
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In a message dated 2/3/99 4:11:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't care if this IS rocket
science...if they
were running a for-profit business they would have all been canned years ago.
Dave
Could
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In a message dated 2/3/99 5:24:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Hi
I'm new here and this is my first post. I would say that my first impression
is to run and hide, because it all seems quite aggressive, sometimes personal
and that's a problem for me
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In a message dated 2/3/99 7:09:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The world is a crazy place folks (as i 'm sure everyone on this list agrees
;-) ) and it's easy to lock ourselves in our homes, sit at our computers
(which are actually more powerful weapons
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Why would we say that? He was after all a Jew... Also on a side note, it
would have been safe to assume when Jim was referring to God he was speaking
of the Biblical God. I'm sure Islamic fellows named "Jim" are few and far
between.
Jamie
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Better Fascist Living through chemistry.
Monsanto, that wonderful corporation that brought
you Bovine Growth Hormone
(banned in Canada as a cancer risk and cow udder
infections) calls out the Gene Police. Hmm. Did I
read that Al Gore's cousin was a corporate counsel
for
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In a message dated 2/3/99 10:01:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Teo1000
Are you trying to get support to open up another list for personal
debates? If so will you come out in the open, say so and get the other list
started.
Laura
AKA The Pied
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From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't care if this
IS rocket science...if they were running a for-profit business they
would have all been canned years ago.
Could not
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In a message dated 2/3/99 11:07:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, I wondered what happened to Hawk. His replies (the ones I saw) so
thoroughly showed up the fallacies of the arguments of the people he was
debating that I'm not overly surprised he
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In a message dated 2/3/99 12:47:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I have neither revelations nor suspicions about Wes. I was, however,
interested in what others had to say on the subject.
Unfortunately, the process of expressing interest seems to
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Meg;
These are the only two posts that I can see that you made to the list and I
can see nothing to apologize for. I sent an earlier response telling you that
I hoped that you would give us some of your insights. Please feel free to get
involved. Kris is doing his best to
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Good opinion on "Know Your Customer" Statist
Monitoring.
(Of course this K.Y.C. crap is not even the real
bad stuff they have or plan
to do).
Some, like J2 think reaction to these Police State
Rules are overblown.
I don't.
flw
Banking With Big Brother
By Michael Kelly
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/** headlines: 139.0 **/
** Topic: FDA To Restrict Animal Antibiotics **
** Written 11:29 PM Feb 1, 1999 by econet in cdp:headlines **
/* Written 7:06 PM Jan 30, 1999 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] in list.ar-news */
/* -- "FDA To Restrict Animal Antibiotics" -- */
FDA
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February 1, 1999
The Top 13 Signs You've Joined a Cheap HMO
13. Its clever name? "Whatevercare"
12. Staff physicians include Dr. Who, Dr. Kevorkian, and
Dr. Demento.
11. Anesthesia? Your choices: Whiskey, a bullet to bite on,
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CONSPIRACY NATION ACCUSED OF CONSPIRACY!
(CNNS, 02/03/99) -- In a stunning development, a person or group
of persons connected with a "Round Table" has promoted the
accusation that this news service may itself be part of
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From Reuters
Wednesday February 3 8:52 AM ET
Worried Turks Watch U.S. North Iraq Patrols
Picture: Reuters Photo
Reuters Photo
By Mert Ozkan
INCIRLIK, Turkey (Reuters) - U.S. warplanes flew unchallenged over Iraq's
northern no-fly zone from Turkey Wednesday but concern
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Something to watch: France's courting of the Soviets and the Chinese for
balance to the U.S. / G.B. efforts in world affairs. Then there's the Euro
which is bound to bind the Europeans in another way.
From Int' Herald Tribune
Paris, Wednesday, February 3, 1999
Going It
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From Int'l Herald Tribune
Paris, Wednesday, February 3, 1999
Terrorists Set to Strike U.S. Targets 'Any Time'
Bin Laden Seeking 'Vulnerable' Spots, CIA Director Warns
By Brian Knowlton International
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SkeptiNews 990203b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question
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# Streaking Blue Meteor Greets Early Risers. (SF Chronicle) No astronomer
reported seeing it, but a
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In part, these activities are harmless, if not to everyone's taste. At the
same time Dr. Hague brought out the distinct militarism, the celebration of
a muscular backwardness--drinking and throwing trees--and the distinctly
all-white character of most of the proceedings.
Maybe
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For those who do not belong to the ACLU or are unfamiliar with their website
or what they do let me urge you to visit their website. There you can sign up
to become a member of the organization, get on their e-mail alert list and do
other things. The best feature of their
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I'm trying to say, in Latin, "Let the knights themselves
make answer." I have it as, "Vox ipso equesorum respondiet,"
but I could be wrong. Anyone know?
Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html
Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone:
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sorry-all i know is old songs from the Gregorian Hymnal
and-Quo Vadis?(where you goin,eh?)
lizbet
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:42:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [BCPolitics] ZOG: The
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That's a pretty gross misrepresentation of the case and its issues. But
I'm not going to argue, realizing that to do so will get me kicked off
this list as surely as it got me kicked off Zundel's.
FWP.
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Kris Millegan wrote:
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***.
One writes:
For those who do not belong to the ACLU or are unfamiliar with their
website
or what they do let me urge you to visit their website. There you can
sign up
to become a member of the organization, get on their e-mail
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:44:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mindcontrol] [BCPolitics] Re: Who should control USA Gov't? (fwd)
From:
Some good information sent to me from an Internet correspondent. Some
information you will be familiar with already, some may be new to you. I hope
it is worthwhile to some.
Teo1000
THE SECRET GOVERNMENT
THAT NO ONE WANTS YOU
TO KNOW ABOUT
By: Bob Momenteller
This secret government
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In a message dated 2/3/99 9:10:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I can't go to any website but ask your aclu buddies This
Whoa there fella'! I am not a member of the ACLU, but am considering
membership. I am also not going to be drawn into a debate
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Check out this site. It is about ending the "War on Drugs".
http://www.stopthedrugwar.org
subscribe for free today!
www.stopthedrugwar.org
because war is not a domestic policy
The Drug War is marketed as the only way to "save our children." Yet, eighty
years into
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