[CTRL] Fw: Child Slaves Sadism in Arabia
-Caveat Lector- Yikes! I hope this is propaganda! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.culture.saudi,soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.conspiracy Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:03 PM Subject: Child Slaves Sadism in Arabia Child Slaves Sadism in Arabia: In United Arab Emirates [Dubai/Abu Dhabi] there is a popular pastime of racing camels. The camels have one jockey sitting on top of them, and a small Pakistani boy tied low on the right hand side, just behind the jockey. The jockey uses the live Pakistani child to create shrill screams so that the camel runs faster. This is accomplished by the jockey lashing the boy with a cane and then when the boy starts to scream like a scared animal, the camel is also scared and runs fast. All this is watched by a disconcerned audience sitting away on a stand, and they are all interested only in the outcome of their camel race. The Pakistani children are bought in Pakistan by "exporters" working for the Arabs at the going rate of Rs. 20,000 per boy, equivalent to U.S. $ 400. They buy any boy aged 6 to 12 years, preferring ordinary boys from poor, neglected, helpless family environments, so that nobody comes to ask about their whereabouts once they have been physically assaulted and killed by their Arab owners. Since this is a business, where money is to be made, the child-traders are from the Balouchi, the Pakhtoon, and the Panjabi communities. The Panjabi community is the dominant money people in Pakistani culture and control all policies and habits. Once a contingent of the children arrives the children are taken to a wash place and washed and given new clothing. Then, they are taken to residences and put to rest in rooms. Later, at night, when they are sleeping, they are visited by hordes of Arabs who choose their quarry for the night, and subject the children to homosexual sex. This on occasion is brought to the attention of the local police but the local police does not think it is anything worth bothering. Nothing actually happens in the territory, and the police does not want to bother with any purpose. The weather is dry and hot, and the mind is careless. Not surprisingly, it is not unusual in Arab society to physically attack or punish a live human being who is poor and helpless. In Pakistani society there is a masochistic need among certain types of people to physically beat children and poor helpless people. The society is so aware of this type of person they immediately shut down in front of any "officer" of the governing class, or any "landowner/landlord" type they encounter, because the ordinary public can be suddenly attacked and injured by a puncher gang that these ruling people keep for the purpose of establishing territorial and subjectorial rule. Arabs quote in no uncertain terms their right to have "slaves" given to them by God, and to have sex with them. If a slave runs away from the "master" he or she is to be hounded, and attacked and killed as soon as found out. In Heaven, these Arabs are promised beautiful looking boys. So, being an attacker-gay is not a crime in their view. In the towns of AL-Khobar and Dammam, young Pakistani girls from poor families were brought in to tutor and teach at a Pakistani Community School. They were given lowest salaries and harassed and molested. The leader of this project is Malik Abbas and his cohort the Pakistani Ambassador to Saudi Arabia. In Saudi, a white foreigner will make a salary like US $ 5000 per month, but an Asian will get US $ 300 per month for the same job. Before, the salary scale of Pakistanis and Arabs was same, it was lessened considerably for the Pakistanis by the decision of the Pakistani ambassador. Now, virtually all Pakistani workers live in barracks like animals and have to behave like slaves. An Arab or a Pakistani will also say that God made diamonds and rubies and money and gives to those He likes, and the poor He dislikes and so keeps them that way. A God who designed Jupiter, Saturn and the whole wide Universe has no purpose being involved in human monetary system and economic crimes. The economic system is created by groups of human beings who are mostly gangsters. In religious practice, anybody who brought any technical training for cleansing of character is stopped, thus the religion exists only as a dogma and does not offer any education. If you read all the books by the Wahabi sect you will come out believing that there is no God, since towards the end they do not allow anyone any prayer or asking from God for any help as they declare that God does not exist and will show Himself only at the Day of Judgment. The biggest joy in the heart of an Arab is to see someone who spoke truth die in front of him.So, these people sometimes brutally attack a servant maid girl from Pakistan, or far-east Asia, and a horde of them fuck her for days, until they have had their fill and want to create another type of incident. Their
Re: [CTRL] Mission Creep, Stealth War, Seen (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Samatha 'Smith' wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-08 07:51:43 EDT, you write: Recently picked up on net that Mossad was involved with CIA in assassination of JFK; well, this would make Gideon's Spies really in cahoots with my bible code which was situated within a particular edition of the Gideon placed bible.and why the Nazis coming to America under protective orders were aided by B'nai Brith, a masonic order of German descentthis would implicate Herr Kissinger, who was counter intelligence in 1940 period also working as Soviet Spy Code Name BOR. I came upon the same info recently (about the Mossad involvement in JFK). I now have THE book on the subject, "Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy" by Michael Collins Piper. Piper posts frequently on Alt.conspiracy(jfk). This is silly! But enjoy the book anyway. I've only just begun the book, so cannot pass judgement, but if it is true about the Mossad, there are several things to be restructured in MY thinking, anyway. Can you explain further how the B'nai Brith aided the Nazis? Never heard that before. Samm This, unfortunately, is true. But not in the way you think. They were covering for the Zionists who made deals with Eichman. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Chinese dissedents support NATO bombing.
-Caveat Lector- Amelia Kay Edgeman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Joshua2, Because I don't know what to do about it. Voting is the American answer to tyranny, at least that is what I was taught all my life. I now learn we often choose between two tyrants or degenerates or whatever. We have no political leadership. I have come to think elections are a farce to keep the sheeple calm. Congratulations Amelia. You have made the toughest breakthrough. It's hard to deal with because no one likes to admit that they can be so easily fooled so successfully duped, for so long. Take heart though you will learn a lot. The Secet Service may be the Clinton's "trained pigs" as they say but we are the trained sheep. The rot is so deep and entrenched and established that it will take a miracle to get us out of it now. I'm afraid not. It will take effort to help others understand that the fix depends on them. The current empire are in a state of decline. The New World Order is a failure economically, and they are overextended militarily. This makes them very dangerous. They will try to hang on to the crumbling potential for world dominance. The more desperate they get, the more chances they'll take. The dismantling of Yugoslavia is an example of that. NATO could come out of this looking like a paper tiger. They have painted themselves into a corner where they must crush Yugoslavia decisively. It's not at all certain that they will be able to do that without looking like butchers. Pretty soon now the refugees will not be an issue. But we didn't know. We weren't stupid or not looking or paying attention. Don't blame yourself too much. You never really had a chance. It's like a punchout between Mike Tyson and Spike Lee. The citizens are Spike Lee. The Government together with an awesomely powerful combination of commercial communications, polling, and advertising industry, are Mike Tyson. We were so honest as a society that I don't think anyone could conceive of the evil being perpetrated on us. I wouldn't say honest. Americans are the world's greatest thieves. In many ways they have legalized and institutionalized theft. Taxes and price controls in the hands of businessmen for example. The resources of the state are stolen through legal bribery for the benefit of the rich. " Behind every great fortune is a crime." Said some smart sociologist. I still don't understand it. Why destroy the greatest democracy/republic on earth because the powers that be dictate it? And the NWO is to reduce us to third world or below level. This smells of jealousy and will sooth the have-not sheeple of the world. Not true. This is entirely wrong. The NWO are the world's rich elites led by America's and Western Europe's rich elites. Period! Mostly America's. We have all heard "America is great because she is good." Once she was good for a wide variety of people ( not counting the Indians.) But as the rich have incrementally accumulated more and more wealth and power they have been able to direct the " goodness " of the country towards themselves. That doesn't leave all that much for everyone else to partake of. That's why we'll pay for their war with Social Security money. So what are we now--not so good any more. It is troubling to say the least. The powder box solution would only cause more destruction and the ballot box one hasn't done anything but make it worse. Don't vote! It's the only way to beat them at the polls. If you are stupid enough to vote for a Democrat or a Republican, you will deserve what you get. There is no significant difference between them. The entire political system is owned and operated by the corporate rich. At this point, no one needs convincing anymore. The prayer aspect may be all we have at this late date Prayer and miracles don't change politics in the real world. we have a lot of blood on our hands to expect a rescue there but it is my hope that our basic goodness will come through in the end. Amelia I hope you're right. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
[CTRL] Fwd: KOSOVO 'FREEDOM FIGHTERS'
Robert Gelbard, America's special envoy to Bosnia, had described the KLA last year as "terrorists." Christopher Hill, America's chief negotiator and architect of the Rambouillet agreement "has also been a strong critic of the KLA for its alleged dealings in drugs."[3] Moreover, barely a few two months before Rambouillet, the U.S. State Department had acknowledged (based on reports from the U.S. Observer Mission) the role of the KLA in terrorising and uprooting ethnic Albanians: ...the KLA harass or kidnap anyone who comes to the police, ... KLA representatives had threatened to kill villagers and burn their homes if they did not join the KLA [a process which has continued since the NATO bombings]... [T]he KLA harassment has reached such intensity that residents of six villages in the Stimlje region are "ready to flee.[4]w Subj:[anarchopunk] KOSOVO 'FREEDOM FIGHTERS' FINANCED BY ORGANISED CRIME Date: 99-04-08 17:54:34 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Carrara) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] More on the KLA/CIA drug connection (conspiracy) By Michel Chossudovsky Department of Economics, University of Ottawa Ottawa, K1N6N5 1-613-562-5800, ext. 1415 / Fax: 1-514-425-6224 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wednesday, 7 April 1999 - Heralded by the global media as a humanitarian peace-keeping mission, NATO's ruthless bombing of Belgrade and Pristina goes far beyond the breach of international law. While Slobodan Milosevic is demonised, portrayed as a remorseless dictator, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) is upheld as a self-respecting nationalist movement struggling for the rights of ethnic Albanians. The truth of the matter is that the KLA is sustained by organised crime with the tacit approval of the United States and its allies. Following a pattern set during the War in Bosnia, public opinion has been carefully misled. The multibillion dollar Balkans narcotics trade has played a crucial role in "financing the conflict" in Kosovo in accordance with Western economic, strategic and military objectives. Amply documented by European police files, acknowledged by numerous studies, the links of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) to criminal syndicates in Albania, Turkey and the European Union have been known to Western governments and intelligence agencies since the mid-1990s. ...The financing of the Kosovo guerilla war poses critical questions and it sorely test claims of an "ethical" foreign policy. Should the West back a guerrilla army that appears to partly financed by organised crime.[1] While KLA leaders were shaking hands with U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright at Rambouillet, Europol (the European Police Organization based in the Hague) was "preparing a report for European interior and justice ministers on a connection between the KLA and Albanian drug gangs."[2] In the meantime, the rebel army has been skilfully heralded by the global media (in the months preceding the NATO bombings) as broadly representative of the interests of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. With KLA leader Hashim Thaci (a 29 year "freedom fighter") appointed as chief negotiator at Rambouillet, the KLA has become the de facto helmsman of the peace process on behalf of the ethnic Albanian majority and this despite its links to the drug trade. The West was relying on its KLA puppets to rubber-stamp an agreement which would have transformed Kosovo into an occupied territory under Western Administration. Ironically Robert Gelbard, America's special envoy to Bosnia, had described the KLA last year as "terrorists." Christopher Hill, America's chief negotiator and architect of the Rambouillet agreement "has also been a strong critic of the KLA for its alleged dealings in drugs."[3] Moreover, barely a few two months before Rambouillet, the U.S. State Department had acknowledged (based on reports from the U.S. Observer Mission) the role of the KLA in terrorising and uprooting ethnic Albanians: ...the KLA harass or kidnap anyone who comes to the police, ... KLA representatives had threatened to kill villagers and burn their homes if they did not join the KLA [a process which has continued since the NATO bombings]... [T]he KLA harassment has reached such intensity that residents of six villages in the Stimlje region are "ready to flee.[4]w While backing a "freedom movement" with links to the drug trade, the West seems also intent in bypassing the civilian Kosovo Democratic League and its leader Ibrahim Rugova who has called for an end to the bombings and expressed his desire to negotiate a peaceful settlement with the Yugoslav authorities.[5] It is worth recalling that a few days before his March 31st Press Conference, Rugova had been reported by the KLA (alongside three other leaders including Fehmi Agani) to have been killed by the Serbs. COVERT FINANCING OF 'FREEDOM FIGHTERS' Remember Oliver North and the Contras? The
[CTRL] Selling Blood Specimans???
-Caveat Lector- Very brief article in the Niagara Gazette today: "NYC doctor admists stealing specimens The Associated Press NEW YORK -- A New York doctor pleaded guilty Wednesday to stealing blood specimens from Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo and selling them for personal profit. Arvind Bhargava agreed in State Supreme Court to repay at least $30,000 to Roswell Park, where he worked as a chemistry supervisor from 1974 to 1996. Sentencing is scheduled for June 18." That's all the article said. Anybody have any further info on this? Why would someone want to purchase blood specimens of cancer patients? Better yet...WHO would want to? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China: No Go on WTO
-Caveat Lector- U.S., China Can't Reach Trade Deal By MARTIN CRUTSINGER .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States and China failed to strike a final deal Thursday for clearing China's entry to the World Trade Organization but found accord on opening China's markets to some U.S. farm products and more airline flights. Both President Clinton and Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji voiced optimism that an agreement for China joining the WTO can be reached before the end of this year. Despite marathon negotiations over the past four days and a flurry of last-minute trade concessions from China, the administration decided it needed more than Chinese negotiators were willing to offer to sell the trade package to a hostile Congress. The failure to clinch a final agreement was a significant setback for Zhu, the first Chinese premier to visit America in 15 years. He had hoped to win U.S. backing for China's entry into WTO during his meetings with Clinton. ``We made significant progress toward bringing China into the World Trade Organization on fair commercial terms, but we are not there yet,'' Clinton told reporters at a joint news conference with Zhu. Clinton hailed separate deals for eliminating significant Chinese barriers to American agriculture products, including beef, pork, poultry, citrus and wheat grown in the Pacific Northwest. Other signed agreements included doubling the number of passenger and cargo flights between the two countries. And the administration got a commitment from China to crack down on piracy of computer programs by Chinese government agencies. The two countries also issued a joint statement listing trade concessions that China offered in hopes of winning America's support for WTO membership and pledged to continue working toward achieving that goal by November, when the WTO is scheduled to launch a new round of global trade talks in Seattle. The joint statement, however, also listed areas still in dispute, most notably an American demand that China still be subject to unilateral U.S. trade sanctions for a period of years after it enters the WTO. The administration was unwilling to relent on this point, fearing charges from opponents that it had given its enforcement rights for forcing China to comply with its commitments. One of the main benefits China would receive from WTO membership would be protection from new U.S. sanctions without first winning a trade case before an impartial WTO hearing panel. Other areas where China's market-opening offers were deemed insufficient were banking, especially the ability of U.S. firms to offer auto loans to Chinese consumers, sales of stocks and other securities and distribution rights for American-made movies. U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky, briefing reporters on the talks, rejected a suggestion the administration may have given ammunition to Chinese critics of Zhu, who is viewed as a leading proponent of economic reforms. Zhu ``is anxious for very substantial reform of the Chinese economy and to move it more toward the direction of market economies ... This will help to solidify China as a place where companies will want to do business,'' Barshefsky said. China has been trying for 13 years to win entry in the WTO and the organization that preceded it, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade. It needs approval from the United States and other major trading powers for membership in the Geneva-based organization that sets the rules for global trade. The Clinton administration has been unwilling to drop its objections until it is satisfied with China's commitment to lower its high tariffs and other trade barriers that the administration sees as a chief cause for America's soaring deficit with China. Last year that deficient reached $57 billion, the largest for any nation other than Japan. China's last-minute push for a deal in time for Zhu's visit also was coming at a time of rising U.S.-China tensions in other areas outside of economics, including allegations that China stole nuclear secrets from American laboratories. Under the agriculture agreement announced Thursday, China will lift a long-standing ban on shipments of wheat from the Pacific Northwest and citrus from Florida, Texas and California. It also agreed to eliminate burdensome inspection requirements on American beef, pork and poultry. Chuck Lambert, chief economist for the National Cattlemen's Association, said the accord should produce big gains for American meat producers. Other U.S. industries also supported the concessions U.S. negotiators won, although many companies who have longed hoped to expand their operations in China urged the administration to push forward for a final deal without delay. ``China has shown its willingness to open the door to its enormous market wider than ever, presenting Americans with unprecedented opportunities to trade with the world's most populous country,'' said Philip Condit, chairman of Boeing Co.
Re: [CTRL] The Coming 2nd American Revolution
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/8/99 11:43:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: America is going to have the second American Revolution this next election. It will follow all laws and it will be terrifying. The reason it will be so frightening is because all Americans voting will know this IS a REVOLUTION. Don't hold your breath. Teo`1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Opening Day
-Caveat Lector- I just heard about what happened during opening day ceremonies for the new baseball season and thought I would share. Apparently Bill Clinton was on hand to toss out the ceremonial first pitch. I didn't see it, but I'm told that instead he threw Hilary out onto the field, at which point the PA announcer had to intervene, "No, Mr. President! The first PITCH! That's PITCH with a P!" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Getting Warmer
-Caveat Lector- Major Ice Shelves Melting LONDON (AP) -- Global warming has speeded the melting of two Antarctic ice shelves, which lost nearly 1,100 square miles of area in the last year, U.S. and British researchers say. Researchers at the University of Colorado and the British Atlantic Survey in Cambridge say regional warming has increased the annual melt season by up to three weeks over the past two decades, putting the Larsen B and Wilkins shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula in ``full retreat.'' Satellite photos show the Larsen B ice shelf has continued to crumble after an initial small retreat in the spring of 1998, the researchers said Wednesday. Since November, another 660 square miles of shelf area caved away. On the other side of the peninsula, the Wilkins ice shelf retreated nearly 420 square miles in early March 1998, said Ted Scambos, a research associate at the University of Colorado at Boulder's National Snow and Ice Data Center. ``The radar images showed a large area of completely shattered ice, indicating an ice front 35 kilometers (21 miles) back from its previous extent,'' said Scambos. He said thousands of small icebergs had appeared, suggesting ``that the shelves are essentially broken up in place and then flushed out by storms or currents afterward.'' David Vaughan, a researcher with British Antarctic Survey, said ice shelves in the area have been in retreat for 50 years but those losses have only included about 2,700 square miles. ``Within a few years, much of the Wilkins ice shelf will be gone,'' he said. But Vaughan said the meltdown has few implications for the environment. Birds and animals are not known to rely on the ice shelves and there would be no increase in sea levels ``because an ice shelf is floating anyway.'' Since the 1940s, British researchers have reported an increase in mean annual temperature in the Antarctic of 4.5 degrees Fahrenheit. Summer temperatures now approach, and sometimes exceed 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Ice shelves are floating plates of ice that are still attached to continents, which form when large glaciers flow toward the ocean in polar areas. Larsen B is about 2,700 square miles, the size of Delaware. Wilkins is nearly twice that size. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kosovo recent history - 1987 NYT article.
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Background to Kosovo Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:19:37 -0500 From: "spectors" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PROGRESSIVE SOCIOLOGISTS NETWORK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note from Alan Spector: As always, I (we) start off with the comment that the Yugoslav/Serb/Milosovic campaign in Kosovo is just another capitalist government consolidating power while causing grave harm to hundreds of thousands of people. Genocide is not an accurate term, but clearly there have been numerous murders and outright banditry. However, this extreme demonizing of the Serbs and treating the ethnic Albanian leadership as if there were saints is also ridiculous. FAIR (Fairness Accuracy in Reporting) a rather scrupulously careful media watchdog group, found an article from the New York Times from 1987 which offers some explanation as to why Milosovic revoked the autonomy of Kosovo and tightened control. Among other things, the major ethnic Albanian leadership had terrorized the minority Serbs, causing 20,000 Serbs to flee! Whatever crimes the Serb leadership is guilty of, the ethnic Albanian leadership can hardly be compared to the Jews or "gypsies" of Europe in the 1940s. There was plenty of ethnic cleansing to go around. Following is the short introduction from FAIR, followed by the NYT article. - FAIR Fairness Accuracy In Reporting 130 W. 25th Street New York, NY 10001 Rescued from the Memory Hole: Background of Serb/Albanian Conflict March 31, 1999 There is always intense pressure in wartime for media outlets to serve as propagandists rather than journalists. While the role of the journalist is to present the world in all its complexity, so that people can make up their own minds, the propagandist simplifies the world in order to mobilize the public behind a common goal. One basic simplification is to interpret a conflict in terms of villains and victims, with no qualification allowed for either role. Conflicts in the real world rarely fall into such simple categories: Particularly in ethnic conflicts, both sides usually have legitimate grievances that are often used to justify a new round of abuses against the other side. In presenting the background to the Kosovo conflict, U.S. news outlets usually begin with Serbia's revocation of the Kosovo Albanians' autonomy in 1989. This was a crucial decision, one of the major reasons for the rise of the Kosovo Liberation Army. It also destabilized the Yugoslavian system and contributed to the country's breakup. Yet media accounts have rarely explained why Serbia lifted Kosovo's autonomy. The attached article, from the New York Times in 1987, gives important background to this decision. Although the article is easily found in the Nexis database, little to none of this information has found its way into contemporary coverage of Kosovo, in the Times or anywhere else. If one read a similar history of Kosovo written today, one would likely dismiss it as pro-Serb propaganda. Yet this was written 12 years ago, when Kosovo was an obscure corner of the world, and the New York Times would not seem to have any particular interest in defending Serbs or attacking Albanians. It should be kept in mind that some of the charges in this article may be exaggerated or politically motivated. Of course, the same is true of atrocity reports that are being carried in the New York Times and other papers today. The New York Times November 1, 1987, Sunday, Late City Final Edition Section 1; Part 1, Page 14, Column 1; "In Yugoslavia, Rising Ethnic Strife Brings Fears of Worse Civil Conflict" By DAVID BINDER, Special to the New York Times BELGRADE, Yugoslavia Portions of southern Yugoslavia have reached such a state of ethnic friction that Yugoslavs have begun to talk of the horrifying possibility of ''civil war'' in a land that lost one-tenth of its population, or 1.7 million people, in World War II. The current hostilities pit separatist-minded ethnic Albanians against the various Slavic populations of Yugoslavia and occur at all levels of society, from the highest officials to the humblest peasants. A young Army conscript of ethnic Albanian origin shot up his barracks, killing four sleeping Slavic bunkmates and wounding six others. The army says it has uncovered hundreds of subversive ethnic Albanian cells in its ranks. Some arsenals have been raided. Vicious Insults Ethnic Albanians in the Government have manipulated public funds and regulations to take over land belonging to Serbs. And politicians have exchanged vicious insults. Slavic Orthodox churches have been attacked, and flags have been torn down. Wells have been poisoned and crops burned. Slavic boys have been
[CTRL] DNA Source Code - Time Line
I am still adding to this time line.
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Title: DNA Source Code
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Could the Earth be a DNA Source CodeIf so, Where are they documenting it?
If there are some on this Earth that believe in survival of the fitist
ADHD: Reality and / or Myth
ADHD
A Learning / Mental Disability
Covers the inability to pay attention and full retention of knowledge.
Black Death - leaves France with a population of 2000.
1720 innoculation for smallpox which has just hit Boston
1775-1783 the revolutionary war
1776 Declairation of Independance
1787 Constitution
1789 9 out of 10 Americans are engaged in farming and food production
1790 Report on Public Credit - aims to expand financial reach of federalgovernment and reduce power of the states
1819 Indian Civilization Act
1821 Missouri entered Union
1831 the Trail of Tears
1845 Potato famine starts in Ireland
1835 Mexico frees slaves
1835 US citizens living in Texas vote to sucede rather than give up the "right"
1836 Republic of Texas is established
1845 Texas entered Union
1846-1848 the Mexican War
1848 abourtive revolution in Germany is the impetus for German immigration:1.1million by 1857
1860 Lincoln elected President
1861-1865 the Civil war / War between the states has begun
Lincoln declairs a state of emergency that grants him powers that supercede the
Constitution or bill of rights
1861 Yale University grants the country's first Ph.D
1863 uniform currency across the United States "National BankingAct"
1864 "In God We Trust" starts appearing on US Coins
1865 Lincoln assasinated - so he does not put the Constution back into effect.
1871 KKK?
1874 Congress makes gold the sole U,S. monetary standard
1914-1920 WW I
1922 Mussolini in Italy
1929 the Great Depression begins
1933 Hitler rises to power in Germany
1939 WW II (Land)
1940 First jet aircraft
1941 Pearl Harbor: United States enters World War II
1941-1945 US in WW II
1941 Pearl Harbor
US enters war
1942 Manhattan (A-bomb) project is begun
1945 The United Nations is founder during Truman time
1947 Formation of Atomic Energy Commission (AEC)
1948 Truman elected President
1949 NATO founded
1949 North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) formed
First nonstop flight around the world
1950 Nevada Test Site (NTS) established by the AEC
Korean conflict begins
1953 Korean armistice signed at Panmunjom
1958 Formation of National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)
Treaty signed to ban all nuclear weapons testing
1961 Berlin wall goes up
1961-76 Vietnam War
1962 John Glenn orbits the Earth
1962 Agent Orange is one of the chemical defoliants used on North Vietnamese supply trails
1962 Did Monsanto have the patent on Agent Orange at this time?
1963 Kennedy assassinated
1968 Nixon officially elected
Nixon took the USA off of the gold standard
Busing / learning / Jessie Jackson
1981-93 Reagan - Bush years
1981 first AIDS cases reported
1988 Bush elected
1989 Oliver North is convicte in Iran-Contra trial
1989 2 month long Tianamen Square
1989 Berlin Wall starts to fall
EG awarded new contract to support Department of Energy's Superconducting
Super Collider project in Texas
EG and Cornell University professors form Northeast Semiconductor
Industries, Inc. to develop advanced materials for electro-optical
components
1990 Sadam Hussein invades Kuwait
1991 Operation Desert Storm
1991 Iraq attempts to take control of Kuwait - Persian Gulf War begins; ends in 3 months time
1991 Gulf war begins and ends within 100 hours
Rodney King beating
1991? Mensa defined learning styles as Gifted or Talented
1992 H. Ross Perot enter Presidential race
Clinton elected Pres.
1992 Rio Declaration signed by delegates from 178 countries outlining starategies to protect the environment and world resources.
1996 Clinton's second term
1997 John Denver dies
Current rift between beliefs over Holocaust
Would these be two organizations that could be used in other ways?
Home School Legan Defense Fund
CHADD
ADHD
FEMA - Federal Emergency M A
Kissinger
Texas re-institutes slavary
Coustou dies
Asnov dies
This is my opinion from what I have read. SIDs is another thing that antibiotics in milk, floride in water, folinin in immunizations, and chemicals in food are suspected of causeing. Since Aspartame was approved during the Regan Administration many
[CTRL] FWD: Send a birthday greeting to Spec. Steven M. Gonzales,one of the three soldiers who is being held hostage in Yugoslavia]
-Caveat Lector- Take a moment to send a birthday greeting to Spec. Steven M. Gonzales, who will turn 22-years old on Saturday. Gonzales and two other soldiers, U.S. Army Staff Sgts. Andrew A. Ramirez, 24, and Christopher J. Stone, 25, were captured by Yugoslav forces last week while they were on patrol in the region. You have two options for sending a birthday greeting to Gonzales: either through the web site of Rep. J.C. Watts, chairman of the House Republican Conference, or through the United States Postal Service. For more information, visit http://hillsource.house.gov/Kosovo/support.htm http://hillsource.house.gov/Kosovo/support.htm . Sincerely, James M. Smith CIC Director U.S. House of Representatives DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wanna buy a nuclear sub?
-Caveat Lector- Encore: Go to http://www.milparade.ru/ra/sample3.htm Be sure to check out their homepage. They've got a great special on tanks this month. Yes, this is for real! Edward ~~ "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 ~~ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rover Blues
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain Deal between British government and BMW--Rover car plant gets stay of execution By Mike Ingram 9 April 1999 The British government has agreed to provide more than £150 million in subsidies for German auto concern BMW to continue production at Rover's Longbridge car factory in the West Midlands. Even if agreed by the BMW board the deal offers only a temporary reprieve. It by no means secures the long-term future of workers either at Longbridge, or within BMW itself. If the Longbridge factory were to close the implications would be far reaching. The Rover group employs 39,000 people internationally, 12,000 at Longbridge. A further 110,000 people work for companies supplying Rover with production materials and services. It is estimated that the loss of the West Midlands plant would mean the destruction of some 50,000 jobs in related industries in the area. The Rover group has annual sales of £6,500 million and exports its vehicles to about 130 countries, earning £3,200 million in overseas sales each year. It is the UK's third largest exporter. At the beginning of this month, Stephen Byers, the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, announced that the government had reached an agreement with BMW chairman Professor Joachim Milberg. BMW were asking for a subsidy of more than £200 million. The German company bought the UK car group for £800 million five years ago. It has since invested £2.5 billion in Rover and is expected to put up an additional £1.7 billion. Rover losses were £642 million last year and they are expected to lose a further £350 million this year. BMW had threatened to shift production of Rover models to Hungary, where they were offered a free site and the benefit of much reduced production costs. When British Aerospace placed Rover on the market in 1994, it was one of the few car companies still making a profit. The British car industry at that time had the lowest total labour costs in the world, while Germany had the highest. Average German labour costs were £19 per hour in 1993, compared with £10 per hour in Britain. Much of the difference was due to the UK's lower social costs. Social contributions, like National Insurance, accounted for only 27 percent of total wage costs in Britain, while in Germany they made up 43 percent. Even Italian labour costs were 6 percent above the British level. As a specialist producer for the luxury car market, BMW faced stiff competition. Rover gave the company access to new and lucrative markets, through acquisition of the Land Rover and Range Rover, four-wheel-drive models that are sold widely in the Far East and the United States. Through the development of the Longbridge plant, BMW aimed to produce a vehicle for the small car market without downgrading the BMW name. Also, due to its relations with Honda who owned a 20 percent share in the company, Rover had already implemented Japanese "flexible" production methods. Despite this, Rover has turned out to be a rather costly white elephant. A fiercely competitive world market has hit the company hard. The high value of the pound has reduced its sales overseas and within Britain. BMW chairman Joachim Milberg said that despite reducing the productivity gap between Rover and BMW plants from 30 percent to 20 percent, the Longbridge plant was unlikely to meet its break-even target by 2000 or 2001. This is in part due to the original target being set when the pound was worth DM2.30. It currently trades at DM2.90, costing the group £480 million in annual profits. "If the pound entered the euro today at DM2.50 that would save us far more than we are asking the UK government for," a company source said. The crisis confronting BMW led to bloodletting within its top management, with the loss of Bernd Pischetsrieder and Wolfgang Reitzle. It was Pischetsrieder who, five years ago, persuaded the Quandt family, owners of 46 percent of BMW's shares, to buy Rover. Pischetsrieder resigned his post following a 12-hour board meeting on February 5 at BMW's Munich headquarters. His anticipated replacement, Reitzle, was expected to carry out sweeping rationalisations at Rover, scrapping all but production of Land Rovers and Minis and thus closing Longbridge. But trade union officials on the BMW board in Germany opposed this, and Milberg was selected as a compromise candidate. BMW first responded to the crisis with repeated threats to close the Longbridge plant, in order to beat the work force into accepting new work practices and pay cuts. In December last year this led to a groundbreaking agreement between management and the British unions that included 2,500 job losses and the introduction of flexible contracts. In return BMW promised a further £2 billion investment programme. With trade union collaboration, BMW were able to go a long way towards establishing their dictates over the work force. The company then turned its attention to British
[CTRL] 3rd party presidential candidates in 2000
-Caveat Lector- Preparing a story on 3rd party presidential candidates in 2000. Might anyone suggest either contacts, [candidate] sites, or even candidate names? TIA. Regards, -A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkin' Australians
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis Australian government twists and turns on Kosovar refugees--A case study in duplicity By Mike Head 9 April 1999 The Australian government's policy on offering shelter to refugees driven out of Kosovo has changed every day this week. One backflip has followed the other, as the calamity produced by NATO's bombing became increasingly obvious. On Monday, Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock faithfully adhered to the Howard government's general anti-refugee policy. Even after days of harrowing scenes of human misery in the Balkans, Ruddock flatly ruled out taking any refugees. After consulting with Prime Minister John Howard's office, Ruddock insisted that Australia was too far away to offer assistance. "Flying planeloads of refugees into Australia would not be an appropriate response," he declared. And there would be "no increase in the humanitarian intake" this year, he emphasised. It would remain at 10,000, with perhaps 4,500 coming from the various war-ravaged parts of the former Yugoslavia. Tens of thousands of asylum-seekers--mostly from Asia and Africa--are denied entry to Australia every year. Thousands who succeed in entering the country on temporary visas are rounded up by police, detained and deported. Ruddock made it clear there would be no exception for the Kosovars. For the next 24 hours, Ruddock pushed this line heavily in the media. He confidently predicted that the Cabinet, due to meet that day, would endorse his response. "I would think a considered response would not suggest we open our doors in a temporary way to the movement of people with the expectation that they would have to be returned." Just five hours later, Cabinet took exactly that decision. Undoubtedly, pressure was brought to bear from Washington, where the Clinton administration had hurriedly drawn up plans to dump Kosovar refugees in prison camp conditions at the US naval base on Cuba (after earlier proposing Guam) and was urging its NATO allies to unveil similar schemes. The Howard government's stance also provoked widespread outrage at home, accompanied by nervous expressions of concern in the media. To many people, there was an obvious contradiction. As soon as NATO began its assault on Yugoslavia, the Howard government declared its full backing for the bombardment, echoing the White House line that this was a war waged for genuinely humanitarian purposes. Yet it would not provide safe haven for a single victim of the war. The contrast is all the more stark because Canberra is making a critical contribution to the NATO operation via the so-called jointly operated US bases on Australian soil. The Nurrungar base provides early warning of enemy missiles and other military responses--helping to identify NATO targets; Pine Gap is part of a global electronic eavesdropping network--needed to monitor the Milosevic regime's plans; and North West Cape maintains telecommunications and navigational facilities for US warships and submarines. Late on Tuesday, Prime Minister John Howard hastily convened a media conference where, with Ruddock standing mutely by his side, he announced an about-face. As a purely temporary measure, the government would admit up to 4,000 ethnic Albanians. They would be airlifted to Australia and provided with food, health care and basic necessities, but only for three months. Howard spoke of the need for an affluent country such as Australia to be seen to be generous. In the same breath he said his government's offer of safe haven had two conditions. The first was that none of the refugees would be permitted to apply for permanent residency, or even for social security benefits. The second condition was that the Labor Party opposition agree to the passage of retrospective legislation to formalise those restrictions once parliament resumes. The Labor leaders, who also back the NATO bombing, readily agreed. In effect, although this was not spelled out, the refugees will be permitted to physically land on Australian soil, but will be stripped of all legal rights, including the right to apply for refugee status and to obtain welfare. After three months, they will be forcibly repatriated back to the Balkans. How this will be achieved legally is yet to be seen. The courts have in the past objected to individuals being locked up or deported unless they have been proven guilty of a criminal offence (invoking the doctrine of habeas corpus --no detention without trial). Presumably the Howard government will extend the principle introduced by the former Labor government of declaring unwanted refugees to be a special category of "unlawful non-citizens" who have no legal or democratic rights whatsoever. Asked if the refugees would be under some form of restraint or in effective captivity, Howard did not deny the suggestion. He said the government was still considering that issue. Initial reports in the media, citing Defence
[CTRL] Voices Through the Flak
-Caveat Lector- From The Age http://www.theage.com.au/daily/990328/news/news19.html Lead-in ... Uncle Sam's secret agenda By JOHN PILGER WHEN the United States dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, the front page of the London Daily Express said: ``This is a warning to the world.'' When American missiles and bombs attacked a sovereign European state last Friday, it was another clear warning to the world, with the message fundamentally unchanged. The most powerful and rapacious imperial power in history will stop at nothing to secure its domination over human affairs. Remainder at site From The Nation http://www.thenation.com/issue/990419/0419klare.shtml April 19, 1999 The Clinton Doctrine See below for background and related information. At site E-mail this story to a friend. President Clinton's decision to use military force against the Serbs was not simply a calculated response to Slobodan Milosevic's intransigence. A careful reading of recent Administration statements and Pentagon documents shows that the NATO bombing is part of a larger strategic vision. That vision has three basic components. The first is an increasingly pessimistic appraisal of the global security environment. "In this last annual threat assessment of the twentieth century," Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified on February 2, "I must tell you that US citizens and interests are threatened in many arenas and across a wide spectrum of issues." Those perils range from regional conflict and insurgency to terrorism, criminal violence and ethnic unrest. The second component is the assumption that as a global power with far-flung economic interests, the United States has a vested interest in maintaining international stability. Because no other power or group of powers can guarantee this stability, the United States must be able to act on its own or in conjunction with its most trusted allies (meaning NATO). The third component is a conviction that to achieve global stability, the United States must maintain sufficient forces to conduct simultaneous military operations in widely separated areas of the world against multiple adversaries, and it must revise its existing security alliances--most of which, like NATO, are defensive in nature--so that they can better support US global expeditionary operations. Combined, these three propositions constitute a new strategic template for the US military establishment. This template is evident, for example, in the $112 billion the President wants to add to the Defense Department budget over the next six years, which will be used to procure additional warships, cargo planes, assault vehicles and other equipment intended for "power projection" into distant combat zones. Less public, but no less significant, is the US effort to convert NATO from a defensive alliance in Western Europe into a regional police force governed by Washington. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright first unveiled this scheme this past December at a meeting of NATO foreign ministers in Brussels. Claiming that missile-armed "rogue states" pose as great a threat to Europe as the Warsaw Pact once did, Albright called on NATO to extend its operational zone into distant areas and to combat a wide range of emerging threats. "Common sense tells us," she said, "that it is sometimes better to deal with instability when it is still at arm's length than to wait until it is at our doorstep." Herein lies the essence of what might be termed the Clinton Doctrine--the proposition that the best way to maintain stability in the areas that truly matter to the United States (like Western Europe) is to combat instability in other areas, however insignificant it may seem, before it can intensify and spread. Perhaps the most explicit expression of this doctrine was Clinton's February 26 speech in San Francisco--an important statement that clearly foreshadowed the decision to bomb Serbia: It's easy...to say that we really have no interests in who lives in this or that valley in Bosnia, or who owns a strip of brushland in the Horn of Africa, or some piece of parched earth by the Jordan River. But the true measure of our interests lies not in how small or distant these places are, or in whether we have trouble pronouncing their names. The question we must ask is, what are the consequences to our security of letting conflicts fester and spread. We cannot, indeed, we should not, do everything or be everywhere. But where our values and our interests are at stake, and where we can make a difference, we must be prepared to do so [emphasis added]. This is an extraordinary statement; not since the Vietnam era has a US President articulated such an ambitious and far-reaching policy. Moreover, as we have seen in the Balkans, Clinton has every intention of acting on its precepts. His decision to bomb Serbia is consistent with a clearly delineated strategic plan. There is a growing debate over the wisdom of bombing Serbia.
[CTRL] Israels Reminded of Holocaust
-Caveat Lector- Israelis Help Kosovo Refugees By LAURIE COPANS .c The Associated Press TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) -- Unable to shake the image of her grandfather suffering Nazi horrors, Shalevet Friedland left early for her evening shift at McDonald's to make an important stop on the way: a collection depot for Kosovo refugees. Friedland, whose grandfather survived a Nazi labor camp, stuffed blankets and warm clothing into three white garbage bags and piled them onto a suitcase cart. ``We need to help them, to give, to give what we can,'' Friedland, 24, said Thursday as she tossed her bags on the growing pile of contributions in Rabin Square. The saga of thousands of ethnic Albanians fleeing Kosovo -- families ripped apart, children and women packed onto trucks, illness breeding in cramped refugee camps -- has special resonance in Israel. In the Jewish state, the Holocaust, the murder of 6 million Jews during the German occupation of Europe, is a defining historical moment. ``Since I saw the pictures, I got a pain in my chest, simply a pain,'' said Avraham Zelig, a survivor of Poland's Lodz ghetto who is raising funds from fellow survivors. ``All the pictures took me back to another period.'' The concern extends beyond survivors and their descendants. Tens of thousands packed the same square in central Tel Aviv on Tuesday evening for a fund-raising rock concert dubbed ``We of all People Cannot Remain Silent.'' ``To act normally at an abnormal time is itself abnormal,'' Israeli Chief Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau -- himself a Holocaust survivor -- told the youthful crowd. A daylong radiothon raised more than $600,000. ``It's beyond survivors,'' said author Tom Segev, who has written extensively on the reverberations of the Holocaust in Israeli society. ``It's connected to the Israeli ethos -- to empathize with the refugees.'' In Israel -- a nation built by immigrants -- even those not related to Holocaust survivors are still likely to know of refugee experiences in the family. Yaakov Rachminovitch spoke of the hardships his parents went through when they emigrated from Yugoslavia to pre-state Palestine in 1930. Rachminovitch was born that year, en route, in Turkey. ``We know these problems of refugees very well,'' he said as he watched preparations for the concert. The fighting in Yugoslavia -- and the refugees it has created -- has pushed the faltering Mideast peace process and May 17 elections out of the headlines. The refugee crisis is simply too compelling, said Yuval Natan, a columnist with the daily Maariv. ``Call me an idiot, tell me that I'm a sucker for kitsch, but every time I see a crate of aid with the Israeli flag pasted to it landing in a crisis zone, it makes me feel good,'' he wrote. Many Israelis have expressed embarrassment at their government's failure to unequivocally support the NATO action against Yugoslavia, whose forces have emptied Serbia's Kosovo province of its majority Albanian population. Yossi Peled, a retired general who backs the opposition Labor Party, said the silence was especially conspicuous as Israel prepares to mark Holocaust remembrance day on Monday. ``The day should never come where they shake their finger at us and say `Where were you?''' Peled told Israel television. ``Our conscience is there,'' in Albania. Foreign Minister Ariel Sharon has angered the United States by suggesting that a Yugoslav defeat could lead to a triumphalist ``Greater Albania'' that would sponsor Muslim fundamentalism. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has distanced himself from Sharon's statements and offered to take in some refugees. The Jewish Agency, a quasi-governmental organization once known only for Jewish rescue, is airlifting more than 40 tons of supplies to the refugees. Israel's army has set up a field hospital among refugees in Macedonia. Some of the relief workers say they are paying Albania back for protecting its small Jewish community during the Holocaust. About 2,000 Jews from Yugoslavia fled to Albania during World War II, joining the tiny Jewish community there, said Avner Shalev, the chairman of the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial. ``Everyone was saved, everyone,'' Shalev told The Associated Press. ``No one was turned in by informants or collaborators.'' Israel has honored some of the Albanians who saved Jews during the war, he said. ``The Albanians helped the Jews, I'm returning the favor,'' said Bala Bajram, a doctor at the field hospital whose parents were hidden by an Albanian family during the Holocaust. Some Israelis, too young for memories, were moved only by the images. Aviha Travis, 7, contributed his allowance to the family donation he and his father dropped off in Rabin Square. ``I saw on the television that people don't have blankets and they are living in tents and they are hungry,'' he explained. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.
[CTRL] CNN CAN'T FIND DISSENT FROM THE LEFT
-Caveat Lector- FAIR ACTION ALERT: CNN CAN'T FIND DISSENT FROM THE LEFT April 8, 1999 On April 7, CNN's Bill Schneider offered this analysis of the anti-war sentiment in the country: "What's missing from the Kosovo story is anti-war protest, at least on the left." Schneider continued by saying that there was "no action out there on the streets or on campuses -- no marches, no demonstrations, no teach-ins." The statement is true, if one watches the media for signs of dissent from the left. In fact, contrary to Schneider's claim, there is plenty of dissent from the Clinton policy-on campuses, in the streets and from leading progressive writers and thinkers. Leading left-of-center publications like The Nation and The Progressive have editorialized against the NATO bombings. Groups like the War Resisters League and the International Action Center, led by former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, have organized demonstrations and spoken out forcefully. Dozens of prominent commentators, like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, have condemned the bombings. And a gathering of notables and activists like Tim Robbins, Erica Jong and Rosie Perez in New York City on April 5 attracted an overflow crowd. Since the day before the bombing of Yugoslavia began, the Institute for Public Accuracy (IPA) has sent eight news releases to countless media outlets, featuring 25 independent analysts with critical perspectives on the bombing. Experts and commentators from IPA's roster have appeared on numerous media outlets--including MSNBC and Fox News Channel--but have not thus far been featured on CNN. When Schneider claims that dissent from the left boils down to criticizing Clinton "not for what he's trying to do, but for the way he's doing it," he is incorrect. Many of the most prominent critics are in fact questioning NATO's moral authority to intervene in this war. Schneider concludes the report with this: "The peace movement is leading the war. And for liberals who oppose the war, they don't have any Pat Buchanan to speak for them." Again, if Schneider's understanding of dissent is limited to the mainstream media, that is correct. Unfortunately, there is much more going on that fails to make the news. *** ACTION: Call on CNN to expand their coverage of the war in Yugoslavia to include progressive critics that have been marginalized by the media thus far. Ask them to consider some of the experts, journalists and commentators whose work is featured on the web sites listed below. Contact: CNN Senior Political Analyst William Schneider Phone: (202) 515-2852 Fax: (202) 515-2853 CNN President Richard Kaplan Phone: (404) 827-1500 Fax: (404) 827-1575 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Relevant links: Institute for Public Accuracy-- a roster of leading anti-bombing experts available to the media ( http://www.accuracy.org/press.htm ) Z Magazine-- commentary by prominent NATO critics, like Noam Chomsky and Edward Said ( http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/kosovo.htm ) The Nation ( http://www.thenation.com/issue/990419/0419editors.shtml ) The Progressive ( http://www.progressive.org/latest.htm ) Common Dreams-- News and Views for Progressives ( http://www.commondreams.org ) War Resisters League ( http://www.nonviolence.org/wrl/ ) International Action Center ( http://www.iacenter.org ) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fie...]
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/7/99 3:23:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you, 1lls0081 wrote this piece, I urge you to get help. It is bigoted concepts like these that lead to young black men being dragged behind cars, and young gay men to be murdered. Their blood is own your hands. While the piece was certainly inflammatory I cannot let this comment stand. One cannot make the statement that people who are bigoted are necessarily going to foster acts of violence as you contend and that they will also then carry them out. The blood of those who have been beaten and killed is rightly in the hands of those who DID the beating and did the killing, not those who thought about it or were bigoted and racist, unless they were the ones who committed the acts in question. Everything else is knee-jerk reactionism. Teo1000 Actually, Teo, I have to disagree and I sincerely hope that I am not alone in the thoughts I am about to post. Certainly those who commit heinous acts are to blame for their acts, but those who hold the same beliefs, though they may not act on them inevitably turn the other cheek and do nothing to stop the acts, and are therefore just as responsible. That is why the all-powerful and never named "THEY" say "If you're not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gods Bankers in EDINBURGH
-Caveat Lector- Hi Andrew, Thanks for all that great info. Do you know anything specific about whose Scots claiming to have the Ark of the Covenent, and where they got it from originally. Was it with Jeramiah to Ireland in 580 approx BC or did the French Templars manage to get it on the crusades and then transport it on? How long has it been there and which clan has it, that's what I'd like to know. Presumably it would have to be the royal ones. If they do have the real thing maybe they are waiting for Jesus to return or is it being kept for the Temple in Jerusalem, said to be being rebuilt by Lord Rothschild. If he is in charge of the Temple which Ark is he going to put in from the large selection. I expect the Freemasons would be trying to have some power in this. If you know anything about the Head of God I'd be grateful too, as to how they think it arrived there. There's so many books on these subjects now that I just don't know what to believe. But I sure think Laurence Gardner has got it wrong. He says Ahkenaton was Moses among other unbelievable statements. Regarding who exactly is rightfully sitting on David's throne, I've always thought, as is is said that Jesus was the rightful heir, (I think Josephus mentions this) then surely when He died the throne would have gone to the surving eldest son of Mary. That would make the Irish 580BC line invalid as the current holder at the time if it actually was carried on in Jerusalem. But then again they could always have gone over there and intermarried other royalty. Tho Herod was king he wasn't tribe of Judah. I remember reading years ago that some of the people close to Jesus actually married into the Welsh royal family and started Christianity there. Could the Welsh be secretly claiming the title? Did anyone ever track the whereabouts of Jesus personal family eg the brothers. Maybe even France. In that case do they still have secrets we should know, apart from the Rennes info. Did those from Jesus brother/s shift to Scotland during the Templar purges? It would be reassuring to think the good guys had the right Ark of course. But where are they? Any comments appreciated. I certainly like the Atlantean connection with Scotland too. I've also heard that the Druids were originally priests from Atlantis. Thanks for any insight given. Nicky Andrew Hennessey wrote: From what I have heard, Rosslyn Chapel has become THE artefact Black Hole .. eg. The Black Rune of Scotland [piece of the true cross] The Holy Grail The Head of God [CAPUT/Baphomet Skull anciently revered by Templars] Matthew Scrolls The Ark of the Covenant elsewhere; The Black Stone of Erc/Stone of Destiny held either by Templars, I suspect in Aberdeen or Tara, An ancient atlantean alchemical facility mentioned circa 1810 in writings about Knights of Malta in Scotland. The Black Order of Scotland is alleged to have a suspicious bit of Hebrew Scroll proclaiming its allegiance to 'Darth Vader' aka fallen angel. Various false Kings and false prophets roam the 7 hills of Edinburgh. On estates around the city, there are places that use survey techniques to: 1. show edinburgh to be sacred 2. build a pyramid where the temple treasure may have landed. Heads of various esoteric and international orders live in and around Edinburgh and Scotland. Because I suspect that JRR Tolkeins 'Lord of the Rings' very much ties in with the Edinburgh area, and that the archeological evidence for reptile/orcs holds true - I believe that Edinburgh will become a city state ruled by a Priest King dynasty and Scotland will be made some sort of Holy Land and pilgrimmage place for the New World Order. If and when the good Fallen Angels return to claim their throne from the bad ones - then maybe I can get some peace to play music !!!?? Andrew PS: according to many many experts, prince Michael Stewart aka Michael le Fosse is an imposter and that the current legal hier recognised by Bretts peerage to the throne of Scotland is a friend of QEII, the Duke of Bavaria - whose father was a WW2 pilot and nazi. Prince Michael was helped to achieve acclaim by Sir Lawrence Gardiner, who is also a fabrication called Brian Gardiner who has acquired many titles and lots of white gold that he now claims will either sell: 1. as the elixir of eternal life 2. antigravity fuel 3. an opportunity to dispose of trees on overforrested estates in Europe and Scotland. Its all a pile of nonsense - if I had no scruples here - I could really coin it in .. any ideas folks ?? Andrew - your eyes and ears in the Priest Kingdom capital of Earth. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor
[CTRL] PLA Security policy and personnel responsible for numerous human rights abuses.
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[CTRL] Hobbes' Internet Timeline Copyright (c)1993-8 by Robert H Zakon
http://w3.tstc.edu/html/timeline.htm Title: Hobbes' Internet Timeline Copyright (c)1993-8 by Robert H Zakon . .TSTC.EDU ...Click on the W3 to return to the Entry Point ** FAQ ** Intro HTML CURRICULUM FACILITIES STUDENTS FACULTY DOCUMENTS Craig's Stuff Highlights from: Hobbes' Internet Timeline Copyright 1993-8 by Robert H Zakon. Permission is granted for use of this document in whole or in part for non commercial purposes as long as appropriate credit is given to the author/maintainer. A copy of the material the Timeline appears in is appreciated. For commercial uses, please contact the author first. The author wishes to acknowledge the Internet Society for hosting this document, and the many Net folks who have contributed suggestions and helped with the author's genealogy search. 1950s 1957 USSR launches Sputnik, first artificial earth satellite. In response, US forms the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) within the Department of Defense (DoD) to establish US lead in science and technology applicable to the military (:amk:) 1960s 1962 Paul Baran, RAND: "On Distributed Communications Networks" Packet-switching (PS) networks; no single outage point 1965 ARPA sponsors study on "cooperative network of time-sharing computers" 1967 ACM Symposium on Operating Principles First design paper on ARPANET published by Lawrence G. Roberts Plan presented for a packet-switching network 1969 ARPANET commissioned by DoD for research into networking First Request for Comment (RFC): "Host Software" by Steve Crocker 1970s 1970 ALOHAnet developed by Norman Abrahamson, U of Hawaii (:sk2:) ARPANET hosts start using Network Control Protocol (NCP). 1971 15 nodes (23 hosts): UCLA, SRI, UCSB, U of Utah, BBN, MIT, RAND, SDC, Harvard, Lincoln Lab, Stanford, UIU(C), CWRU, CMU, NASA/Ames 1972 ALOHAnet connected to the ARPANET InterNetworking Working Group (INWG) created to address need for establishing agreed upon protocols. Chairman: Vinton Cerf. Ray Tomlinson of BBN invents email program to send messages across a distributed network. (:amk:) Telnet specification (RFC 318) 1973 First international connections to the ARPANET: University College of London (England) and Royal Radar Establishment (Norway) Bob Metcalfe's Harvard PhD Thesis outlines idea for Ethernet (:amk:) Bob Kahn poses Internet problem, starts internetting research program at ARPA. Vinton Cerf sketches gateway architecture in March on back of envelope in hotel lobby in San Francisco (:vgc:) File Transfer specification (RFC 454) 1974 Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn publish "A Protocol for Packet Network Internetworking" which specified in detail the design of a Transmission Control Program (TCP). (:amk:) 1976 Elizabeth, Queen of the United Kingdom sends out an e-mail (various Net folks have e-mailed dates ranging from 1971 to 1978; 1976 was the most submitted and the only found in print) UUCP (Unix-to-Unix CoPy) developed at ATT Bell Labs and distributed with UNIX one year later. 1977 Mail specification (RFC 733) 1980s 1982 DCA and ARPA establishes the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) and Internet Protocol (IP), as the protocol suite, commonly known as TCP/IP, for ARPANET. (:vgc:) This leads to one of the first definitions of an "internet" as a connected set of networks, specifically those using TCP/IP, and "Internet" as connected TCP/IP internets. DoD declares TCP/IP suite to be standard for DoD (:vgc:) External Gateway Protocol (RFC 827) specification. EGP is used for gateways between networks. 1983 Name server developed at U of Wisconsin, no longer requiring users to know the exact path to other systems. Cutover from NCP to TCP/IP (1 January) ARPANET split into ARPANET and MILNET; the latter became integrated with the Defense Data Network created the previous year. Desktop workstations come into being, many with Berkeley UNIX which includes IP networking software. Internet Activities Board (IAB) established, replacing ICCB Berkeley releases 4.2BSD incorporating TCP/IP (:mpc:) 1984 Domain Name Server (DNS) introduced. # of hosts breaks 1,000 1986 NSFNET created (backbone speed of 56Kbps) NSF establishes 5 super-computing centers to provide high-computing power for all (JVNC@Princeton, PSC@Pittsburgh, SDSC@UCSD, NCSA@UIUC, Theory Center@Cornell). 1987 1000th RFC: "Request For Comments reference guide" # of hosts breaks 10,000 # of BITNET hosts breaks 1,000 1988 1 November - Internet worm burrows through the Net, affecting ~6,000 of the 60,000 hosts on the Internet (:ph1:) DoD chooses to adopt OSI and sees use of TCP/IP as an interim. US Government OSI Profile (GOSIP) defines the set of protocols to be supported by Government purchased products (:gck:) NSFNET backbone upgraded to T1 (1.544Mbps) CERFnet (California Education and Research
[CTRL] Hobbes' Internet Timeline
http://info.isoc.org/guest/zakon/Internet/History/HIT.html Title: Hobbes' Internet Timeline [ 1950s ] [ 1960s ] [ 1970s ] [ 1980s ] [ 1990s ] [ Growth ] [ FAQ ] [ Sources ] Hobbes' Internet Timeline v4.0 by Robert H'obbes' Zakon Internet Evangelist The MITRE Corporation Hobbes' Internet Timeline Copyright (c)1993-9 by Robert H Zakon. Permission is granted for use of this document in whole or in part for non-commercial purposes as long as this Copyright notice and a link to this document, at the archive listed at the end, is included. A copy of the material the Timeline appears in is requested. For commercial uses, please contact the author first. Links to this document are welcome after e-mailing the author with the document URL where the link will appear. The views expressed in this document are the author's and are not intended to represent in any way The MITRE Corporation or its opinions on this subject matter. The author wishes to acknowledge the Internet Society for hosting this document, and the many Net folks who have contributed suggestions and helped with the author's genealogy search. 1950s 1957 USSR launches Sputnik, first artificial earth satellite. In response, US forms the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) within the Department of Defense (DoD) to establish US lead in science and technology applicable to the military (:amk:) 1960s 1961 Leonard Kleinrock, MIT: "Information Flow in Large Communication Nets" (July) First paper on packet-switching (PS) theory 1962 J.C.R. Licklider & W. Clark, MIT: "On-Line Man Computer Communication" (August) Galactic Network concept encompassing distributed social interactions 1964 Paul Baran, RAND: "On Distributed Communications Networks" Packet-switching networks; no single outage point 1965 ARPA sponsors study on "cooperative network of time-sharing computers" TX-2 at MIT Lincoln Lab and AN/FSQ-32 at System Development Corporation (Santa Monica, CA) are directly linked (without packet switches) via a dedicated 1200bps phone line; Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) computer at ARPA later added to form "The Experimental Network" 1966 Lawrence G. Roberts, MIT: "Towards a Cooperative Network of Time-Shared Computers" (October) First ARPANET plan 1967 ARPANET design discussions held by Larry Roberts at ARPA IPTO PI meeting in Ann Arbor, Michigan (April) ACM Symposium on Operating Principles in Gatlinburg, Tennessee (October) First design paper on ARPANET published by Larry Roberts: "Multiple Computer Networks and Intercomputer Communication First meeting of the three independent packet network teams (RAND, NPL, ARPA) National Physical Laboratory (NPL) in Middlesex, England develops NPL Data Network under Donald Watts Davies who coins the term packet. The NPL network, an experiment in packet-switching, used 768kbps lines 1968 PS-network presented to the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) Request for proposals for ARPANET sent out in August; responses received in Setptember University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) awarded Network Measurement Center contract in October Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc. (BBN) awarded Packet Switch contract to build Interface Message Processors (IMPs) US Senator Edward Kennedy sends a congratulatory telegram to BBN for its million-dollar ARPA contract to build the "Interfaith" Message Processor, and thanking them for their ecumenical efforts Network Working Group (NWG), headed by Steve Crocker, loosely organized to develop host level protocols for communication over the ARPANET. (:vgc:) 1969 ARPANET commissioned by DoD for research into networking Nodes are stood up as BBN builds each IMP [Honeywell DDP-516 mini computer with 12K of memory]; AT provides 50kbps lines Node 1: UCLA (30 August) Function: Network Measurement Center System,OS: SDS SIGMA 7, SEX Node 2: Stanford Research Institute (SRI) (1 October) Network Information Center (NIC) SDS940/Genie Doug Engelbart's project on "Augmentation of Human Intellect" Node 3: University of California Santa Barbara (UCSB) (1 November) Culler-Fried Interactive Mathematics IBM 360/75, OS/MVT Node 4: University of Utah (December) Graphics DEC PDP-10, Tenex First Request for Comment (RFC): "Host Software" by Steve Crocker (7 April) RFC 4: Network Timetable First packets sent by Charley Kline at UCLA as he tried logging into SRI. The first attempt resulted in the system crashing as the letter G of LOGIN was entered. (October) Univ of Michigan, Michigan State and Wayne State Univ establish X.25-based Merit network for students, faculty, alumni (:sw1:) 1970s 1970 First report on ARPANET at AFIPS: "Computer Network
[CTRL] kosovo-ongoing comment
-Caveat Lector-
A little history -- The New York Times, reporting on the Kosovo conflict
back in 1987, described how the Albanian population of Yugoslavia was
pushing for a "Greater Albania" by carrying out violent acts against Serbs.
These included attacks on Serb Orthodox churches, crop burning and
well-poisonings. Apparently, young Albanian men were told by their elders to
rape Serbian women. In 1992, the NYT reported that 250,000 Serbs had been
'ethnically cleansed' from Croatia.
7 iv '99 EDINBURGH -- Some correspondents in the London papers were signing
their own names to stories of atrocities, but much of the reportage was one
journalist saying what another said she was told by an unnamed Kosovar. In
particular, it was said on the BBC that Kosovar women could not be expected
to put their own names to allegations of rape by Serbian soldiers, or indeed
to give the slightest detail of such claims (because to do so would be too
shaming for them and their families). In fact, it would be utterly bizarre
if 10,000 Nato troops (including 4.500 British) had sat in Macedonia for a
fortnight and not protected a single square mile of Kosovo or a retreat
corridor from Pristina if horrendous atrocities had *indeed* been taking
place (let alone the 'genocide' -- claimed six times in five minutes by UK
Foreign Secretary Robin Cook). The Nato bombing had killed over 300
civilians and wounded over 3,000 others, the Yugoslav ambassador to Russia
claimed in Moscow.
7 iv '99 -- http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ (J. Orlin Grabbe) -- Bill
Clinton's failing Kosovo war is part of a desperate, dangerous and fatally
flawed plan by a scandal-ridden President to salvage a legacy for the
history books, White House and Pentagon insiders say.
8 iv '99 EDINBURGH -- Having caused some 300 deaths in Serbia and some 17
deaths in Kosovo and precipitated the ethnic flight of a million ethnic
Albanians (about 300,000 of them to Albania) and billions of dollars of
material destruction, multicultural AmericOtan has embarked on spelling out
its war aims. At the top of the agenda is Prime Minister Blair's undertaking
to the Kosovars (Daily Telegraph 7 iv '99): "We will make sure you can
return to your homes and live in your homes in peace. That is our promise."
So the chief objective is merely to restore the status quo ante bellum! Just
how Kosovo's 10% Serbian population is to be protected from victorious
returning neighbours remains unclear; but at least there are plenty of homes
left -- top journalist John Simpson revealed from Pristina that media
suggestions of widespread burning of Kosovar homes were exaggerations (CFMR
8 iv '99, 00:00). Nato may have gambled and lost in its Third Way plan of
avoiding the use of both diplomacy and infantry, but it is not lacking in
spirit. It may not be able to save lives, but it can still save the face of
New World Order neosocialist, the Reverend William Jefferson Clinton of the
Church of the Seven Day Fornicators. 'The immaculate coercion' of fifteen
days of nightly bombing has found the Middle Way between ignoring Serbian
enormities and actually ending them and has proved popular with TV viewers;
and once Yugoslavia is a flattened wasteland it should be possible to risk
the occasional Nato operative to initiate the process of trying 'war
criminals' and demanding reparations. This will let neosocialists make
object lessons of nationalists for the next century. AmericOtan has been
able to shrug off the anti-Nato-bombing pleas of the moderate Kosovan ethnic
Albanian leader Mr Rugova with the unproven suggestion that he is being
intimidated or drugged. Nor does the lack of interest of Albania in doing
anything impact on Washington's Black House: in Albania, the big businesses
are in narcotics, the control of prostitution in Naples and in war
profiteering so there has been no time for helping Kosovars in Kosovo.
UK newspapers continue to show a disjunction between
well-propagandized leader writers' and journalists' allusions to 'genocide'
on the one hand and independent-minded columnists and correspondents on the
other. A particularly fine anti-war article was that by Andrew Roberts in
the Times ('Patriots for peace', 7 iv '99). Roberts recalled the many
eminent British politicians who have opposed wars in the past. William Pitt
the Younger (1759-1806, "the saviour of Europe" [against Napoleon]) opposed
making war on the rebellious American colonies; Charles James Fox
(1749-1806, "the greatest debater the world ever saw" [Burke]) opposed
fighting France on land; the arch-conservative Third Marquis of Salisbury
(1830-1903) opposed fighting Russia in the Crimean War'; David Lloyd George
(Prime Minister of victorious Britain in 1918) had opposed fighting the
Boers; and Labour Prime Minister Ramsay Macdonald (1866-1937) had opposed
declaring war on Germany in 1914. Noting the plight of Alex Salmond (the
Scottish National Party leader currently condemned by Blairites as "the
toast of
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo and the New World Order (WND)
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Peter L. Sroufe wrote: -Caveat Lector- Imposing peace would be an artifact of a fully established and empowered NWO. While the NWO is well on its way to a "final solution" for the governments of the world, they are still not yet in complete control. And that is the real "why" of this event should be looked at more closely. What seems significant to me is that it is NATO, not U.N., involved in Kosovo. That may mean a return to Cold War days and good-bye to New World Order, via U.N. Brian Redman Editor, CNNS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- Many people would define the homosexual lifestyle as one of promiscuity. Those are people who've never met anyone who's homosexual...I've known and worked with heterosexuals who were far more 'promiscuous' than the homosexuals I've known and worked with... The reason for this is that homosexuals seem to be like the legendary "Peter Pan." Again, I've known far more heterosexual "Peter Pan"s than homosexual... and in fact, the "Peter Pan Syndrome", when first coined, referred to HETEROsexual men who treat women either as "Wendys" or "Tinkerbells"... The person who wrote this homophobic diatribe is an idiot. By refusing to commit to someone of the opposite sex, they normally do not have to worry about the responsibility of children, Bull. Many homosexuals have previously been married, and have children. Many heterosexuals OTOH choose not to have children...not having children is NOT an indication of irresponsibility, in fact one can argue that by limiting the growth of population, those who choose not to have children are far more 'responsible' than those who do. much less the responsibility of a commitment. Every homoxexual I've known was in a longterm, committed relationship. If homosexual marriages were legalized, you'd see many more such committed relationships... Also if they do decide to break off the relationship they normally do not have to worry about the legal tangles of divorce. This is true...which is why you find many HETEROsexual couples opting for the same... Should admitted homosexuals that are seen as promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and unwilling to take on responsibility for other people be allowed to serve in the military? Should HETEROsexuals WHO (the correct grammar, BTW) are seen as promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and unwilling to take on responsibility for other people be allowed to serve in the military? One COULD argue that such self-centered people, no matter their sexual orientation, could make a BETTER soldier, as they wouldn't be 'hindered' by caring thoughts for fellow men and women... Also, the ancient Spartans, feared by their enemies as an extremely brutual and efficient army, ENCOURAGED homosexual relationships amongst the troops, as they believed it fostered a deep camraderie for one's fellow soldier, a camraderie which translated into the desire not only to attack the mutual enemy, but to defend one's lover as willingly as one would defend oneself. BTW, there have ALWAYS been homosexuals in the U.S. military... What kind of person do you want to depend on? Would you rather depend on someone that is willing to take on commitments of religion and family, Such as Bill Clinton? :-7 The military image requires that the people of the military be true to the most stringent standards that their culture has. If you can not take pride yourself and your own culture, how can you understand the pride that someone else has in their culture. This is the same argument that was used to justify keeping blacks out of the military, keeping Hispanics out of the military, keeping women out of the miliatary, etcit is the standard argument which is raised whenever ANY minority request equal rights under the law... True homosexuals have decided what sex they are and what life style they want to follow. And what, pray tell, do homosexuals do that heterosexuals don't do also? True homosexuals have seldom if ever been known to rape a heterosexual. TRUE homosexuals rarely commit rape, period. These controlling personalities are really in the closet! Because if the real truth were known, they usually are willing to have sex with any person - male or female of any age. Then they are bisexual, not homosexual and not heterosexual... These control fiends are the type to have a physical relationship with a single or divorce mother and also think nothing of having a relationship with here male OR female child. Anyone having sex with a child is a pedophile...which has absolutely NOTHING to do with normal homosexuality, bisexuality, or heterosexuality... A man having sex with a little boy is no more indicative of normal adult homosexuals than a man having sex with a little girl is indicative of normal adult heterosexuals... Some countries have been sympathetic to the American Homosexual. Iceland has an overwhelmingly female population - I think the current ratio is five females births to every one male birth, Citation for such figures? The American homosexual has usually decided that they want few, if any commitments. Then you have obviously never met any. Have you thought what it would be like if the military didn't have a standard. Standards like those displayed at Tailhook? But I guess you APPROVE of heterosexual promiscuity... (c) 1997 by Laura Lee Lanning-Shipton AKA The Pied Piper You are welcome to forward this for non profit purposes, with the copyright intact. The only place this warrants forwarding to is
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, 1lls0081 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many Homosexuals have a level of self discipline that makes the pope look like a goof off. OK. Maybe I should not go - Quite - that far, but have you seen what it takes for a woman to get dressed up. As a woman, I'm quite aware of 'what it takes', for those of us who CHOOSE to do nothing else but spend time in front of a mirror... Add mysogynist to homophobe... Think of what it takes for a cross dresser. You are such an idiot. Most homosexuals are NOT cross-dressers, indeed most homosexual males do NOT look any different than heterosexual males...and point of fact, a good many HETEROsexual males enjoy cross-dressing Now for the regular, run of the mill person that has a same sex orientation. They are normally not a sadist, or controlling. Well, not any more so than a man that has complete control of a female when he is lying on top of her. Add 'frigid' to mysogynist and homophobe... Some have been lead to believe that they should have been born the opposite sex because of the fact that many animals can switch sexes. Take a laying hen, there have been some that have gone from a fertile hen to a fertile rooster. And I'm sure you can cite a RELIABLE source for the assertion? June *===* The sun was warm but the wind was chill. You know how it is with an April day: When the sun is out and the wind is still, You're one month on in the middle of May. But if you so much as dare to speak, A cloud comes over the sunlit arch, A wind comes off a frozen peak, And you're two months back in the middle of March. -- Robert Frost: Two Tramps in Mudtime *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Edward Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey let's do this, apply the authors logic to God. I have not seen Him/Her display any responsibility for His/Her creation. ALso consider that he knocked-up a virgin, and left Joseph to raise His child ;-) June *===* The sun was warm but the wind was chill. You know how it is with an April day: When the sun is out and the wind is still, You're one month on in the middle of May. But if you so much as dare to speak, A cloud comes over the sunlit arch, A wind comes off a frozen peak, And you're two months back in the middle of March. -- Robert Frost: Two Tramps in Mudtime *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Satellite 'Big Brother' eyes parolees
-Caveat Lector- Satellite 'Big Brother' eyes parolees By Gary Fields, USA TODAY Military satellites designed to guide nuclear missiles are being used to monitor prison parolees and probationers in a technological advance designed to reduce the nation's skyrocketing prison population. But critics say it also raises the specter of an Orwellian future. The ComTrak monitoring system uses 24 Defense Department satellites orbiting 12,500 miles above the Earth to track 100 people in nine states. The people under surveillance range from sex offenders in Chicago to juvenile delinquents in New Jersey. The cost of monitoring each person is $12.50 per day. It is a long way from a system originally designed by the Defense Department to help guide nuclear missiles. The Pentagon began leasing satellite time, allowing others to use the satellites, after the Cold War ended. "It's bullets to plowshares," says Jack Lamb, president and CEO of Advanced Business Sciences Inc., the Omaha-based company that developed the ComTrak system. The system has three main components: a bracelet the size of a wristwatch, a 3-pound personal tracking unit that resembles a walkie-talkie, and the battery charger/base that is kept at the monitored person's house and transmits information by telephone to a monitoring center . If the bracelet is broken or removed or the wearer is more than 50 feet from the tracking unit, an alarm is sent to the monitoring center. The system is programmed to set up zones where a person monitored can and cannot go, depending on the crime committed. For example, people with drunken-driving convictions can be tracked to set off an alarm if they enter local bars. Exclusion zones for a sexual predator can include schools and parks in a designated area. And an abusive husband can be tracked to ensure he stays clear of his wife's workplace, home or places she visits. When a person being monitored enters an exclusion zone, the tracking unit sends an automatic alert to monitoring centers in Omaha. Law enforcement authorities are alerted within minutes. At night, the tracker is placed in the charger, which downloads all of a person's movements that day - right down to the precise route the person took to work - and sends the record of movements to the monitoring center. Lamb says the potential for growth is "phenomenal." There are nearly 4 million people under some form of supervision in the USA. Of those, only about 11,000 are monitored electronically under the old system, which is unable to track a person's movements once he or she has left home. Some see the new system as a tool for judges grappling with a prison and jail population of 1.8 million people at a cost of more than $40 per day for each inmate. Percy Luney Jr., president of the National Judicial College at the University of Nevada, Reno, where judges receive training in such issues as alternative sentencing, says the system "gives judges an option for keeping people out of jail and away from all the negative influences there. It's also a cost-saver for the taxpayer." Lamb says his system also is an improvement over older technology, which can tell only if those being monitored leave home during restricted hours. "The problem with the old system is once they leave home, you have no idea where they are or what they are doing," Lamb says. Others involved in the prison industry, from defense lawyers to probation and parole officers and judges, acknowledge that the advanced monitoring system has potential. But there are some concerns about how far the use of such surveillance will go. Paul Rothstein, a law professor at Georgetown University, says the system has the potential "to change the face of law enforcement and incarceration." Nevertheless, he sees the "potential for creating a monster." Rothstein is concerned that the advances in technology could result in more and more people being subjected to electronic monitoring - not just those on parole. "You could end up with the majority of the population under some kind of surveillance by the government," he says. Jack King, spokesman for the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, says his organization supports the electronic monitoring. He sees it as especially helpful in the case of someone who should be out on bail but is too destitute to pay it. He says he is concerned about such technology being used to monitor people who have served their sentences and paid their debts to society. "If it's to track someone who has done his full term, like a registered sex offender or a formerly dangerous felon, then the use of this technology becomes Orwellian with all the dangers to all our freedoms that suggests," King says. "Who would they be tracking next?" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many
[CTRL] Fw: 19 US Marines reported dead!
-Caveat Lector- Rush Limbaugh mentioned this on the air the other day, but no further discussion. -Original Message- From: Shooty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 6:56 AM Subject: Re: 19 US Marines reported dead! In article 7ejls5$jks$[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Lloyd Miller, A-albionic Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP The coffins were discovered accidently in a routine check by Macedonian Customs. The newspaper from Athens says at its first page that the bodies went through Skoplje and reached the Military Hospital number 424 in Thessalonika completely secretly and in the exhort of the officers where are prepared for the further transportation. ''Athinaiki'' stresses that the bodies of 12 American soldiers arrived in Thessalonika on Wednesday first and that they have already transported to the USA. The next seven bodies was transported to the Greek harbor on Thursday from where they should be transported across the ocean today. SNIP The report in the Greek newspaper Athinaiki is true, "because we personally saw the bodies of dead soldiers in the coffins," said Macedonian customs officials, speaking on condition of anonymity. They added that they saw the bodies when they opened the coffins in line with the regulations at one of the border crossings to Greece, whose name was not disclosed for obvious reasons. They could give no more details, saying only that there were two shipments - of 12 and 7 coffins, respectively - escorted by a number of U.S. officers. SNIP They said, however, that the "coffins were in containers" and that they were "taken over by Greek policemen" on the Greek side of the border. SNIP - Like, the US military wouldn't put the coffins onto an empty transport direct to the USA, they would send them by road and let customs officials have a good look. That's a good secret. Shooty DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skolnick Sees Hitler-Style Plan (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SKOLNICK SEES "HITLER-STYLE PLAN" = (CNNS, 04/09/99) -- Sherman H. Skolnick, chairman of the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, reports that Serbs living in the U.S. (and even naturalized Serb-Americans) who dare to protest U.S. involvement in Yugoslavia are facing repression by the U.S. immigration authorities. (Contact info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office phone, 773-375-5741.) - The Hitler-Style Plan by Sherman H. Skolnick There are an estimated one hundred thousand to a quarter million Serbians living more or less quietly in the U.S. as alien residents. With the undeclared war of the U.S. against Serbia, is there a plan regarding such Serbians? Not mentioned in what some call the monopoly press are the presidential edicts to deal with so-called "emergencies". Blunt-talking sorts call them martial law provisions. (To mislead the public, CBS has started a series called "Martial Law".) There is a growing clamor by Serbs in the U.S. against the Clinton White House and Pentagon. In efforts to stop this, Clinton has ordered that Serbians with green cards, resident aliens, be deported as silently as possible. Apparently this original plan has been scrapped in favor of an alternative one, to send Serbians to certain detention camps, a replay of the Hitler-era. Plans to counter this, such as by federal court lawsuits might not even by publicized. Why? The monopoly press seems to be acting like under war-time orders. (For a sinister analogy, see the book "The Captive Press in the Third Reich" by Oron J. Hale.) The largest concentration of Serbs, both aliens and naturalized citizens, is in the Chicago-area. Too many federal judges, such as in the Windy City, are both tied to the banking system and are blackmailable because of ties to questionable if not criminal enterprises. So an appeal to the courts for a remedy may well be fruitless. One of the most secret detention camps is offshore Alaska, originally designed to house blacks because of racial riots. This writer had this confirmed during a radio talk show he did in Anchorage. Is that where the alien Serbs are to be sent? The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), as well as the FBI, have been told they could as well grab and detain Serbian-Americans, that is, citizens, who do not quickly supply their naturalization papers. Much of this has been confirmed by sources in the INS, and elsewhere. A cynical historian contends the calendar stating the year as 1999 is a fraud. It is, he loudly insists, actually 1938 and we are all in a time-warp. Stay tuned. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Marijuana Thought Crimes
-Caveat Lector- Seems all the "Thought - Hate Crime" activists have more to celebrate. Illinois to make thinking "illegally" about marjiuana a "Thought Crime". flw Illinois Bill Criminalizes Marijuana Information on the Internet (reprinted from the NORML Weekly News, http://www.norml.org) April 8, 1999, Springfield, IL: The state House of Representatives unanimously approved legislation that would impose criminal penalties on those who transmit information pertaining to marijuana on the Internet if they "know that the information will be used in furtherance of illegal activity." NORML Executive Director R. Keith Stroup, Esq. noted, "Under this measure, someone could legally transmit information about potentially violent activities like building bombs, but face criminal prosecution for posting messages about the documented medical uses of marijuana. This is an attempt to circumvent the first amendment guarantee of free speech by turning the transmission of certain factual information via the Internet into a 'thought crime.' Proponents of this type of legislation are the equivalent of modern day book- burners." House Bill 792, introduced by Rep. Gerald Mitchell (R-Rock Falls), seeks to make the transmission of "information about cannabis by the Internet" a Class A misdemeanor if the provider is aware the information could be used for an illegal activity. The Senate Judiciary will hold hearings on the proposal next Wednesday. The House approved the measure 114 to zero. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Iran/Yugoslavia
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update April 9, 1999 Kosovo Crisis Presents Iran with Policy Dilemma Summary: Iran, particularly in its role as the current head of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, has taken a great interest in the plight of the Moslem Kosovar Albanians. Tehran is torn, however, between its desire to stop and punish the Serbs and its opposition to U.S. military actions abroad. Analysis: Replying to accusations of Iranian complacency leveled in the Saudi-owned, Beirut-based newspaper Al-Sharq al-Owsat, the Iranian English-language daily Tehran Times on April 8 wrote that "If any Iranian official denounced the NATO strikes, he simply meant that the Western powers had violated the international norms and tarnished the prestige of the world body." The Tehran Times' attempted clarification of Iran's position on Operation Allied Force illustrates the dilemma the conflict in Kosovo has presented Tehran. Iran is caught between its vehement condemnation of Serbian aggression and its opposition to U.S. global power projection. And so, it has attempted to strike a balance that blames the UN Security Council for shirking its responsibility before the crisis erupted, thus making NATO air strikes necessary, while insisting that the strikes should have been launched under a UN mandate. Iran's stand on Belgrade's "ethnic cleansing" of Kosovo is unambiguous, and is shared by Tehran's moderates and conservatives alike. Speaking on April 7 at the conclusion of a foreign ministerial meeting of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) Contact Group in Geneva, Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi warned the "extremist Serbs" that "the world of Islam cannot tolerate continuation of brutalities against Moslems in Kosovo... The world of Islam cannot witness atrocities against Moslems in Kosovo and not take any measures." The trouble is, Iran can't figure out what effective measures to take. Tehran has sent two plane-loads of humanitarian aid to Kosovar Albanian refugees and has upgraded an Iranian-run clinic in Tirana. It has held consultations independently and in its role as the current head of the OIC with the UN, Bosnia, Albania, Macedonia, Greece, the Vatican, Russia, NATO members, and other countries. It has even offered, with the OIC, to participate in any future internationally-led peacekeeping efforts in Kosovo. But beyond issuing condemnations and continuing to appeal for a peaceful and speedy negotiated settlement of the crisis, Iran has found itself somewhat impotent. Adding to Iran's policy predicament, a number of Arab and Moslem countries have come out in support of NATO's bombing campaign, and among those opposed to the bombing are Iran's perennial enemies Iran and, initially, Israel. Israeli Defense Minster Ariel Sharon has publicly warned against Kosovar Albanian independence, insisting it would create a greater Albanian "fundamentalist Islamic state" in the heart of Europe. Baghdad has claimed that the U.S. is "playing the Kosovo Moslem card" to neutralize Arab and Moslem opposition to NATO attacks on an independent sovereign country. "A country's internal problems should be settled within the country concerned, without any foreign interference," said an Iraqi statement. Both Iraq and Israel have reportedly had military contacts with the Yugoslav government before the current crisis as well. Iran's best hope for a diplomatic resolution to the crisis -- Russia -- has not panned out. Tehran has appealed several times to Moscow to "take advantage of its influence over Belgrade" to intervene on behalf of the Kosovar Albanians, but with no success. Either Russia's influence has not been particularly strong or, as is more likely the case, Russia does not want to pressure Belgrade to accept NATO's ultimatum. In an interview with the English-language Iran Daily printed April 7, Russian Ambassador to Tehran Konstantin Shuvalov went so far as to suggest that the perceived plight of the Kosovar Albanians was in significant part mere NATO propaganda. No matter how eager Iran is to cooperate with Russia rather than NATO, this is not the answer Tehran wanted to hear. And so we come back to NATO's bombing campaign -- not Iran's first choice and not really effective in stopping Serb aggression against Kosovar Albanians, but at least dishing out pain on the Serbs. The English language daily Kayhan International stated the case quite succinctly on April 6, arguing that U.S. attacks on Yugoslavia and Iraq "set a dangerous precedent in international affairs" and "rendered the world a lot more unsafe without ever inflicting heavy blows to the repressive reigns of the rulers in Baghdad and Belgrade." "However," the paper continued,
[CTRL] Fwd: Chossudovsky on the KLA.
_ KOSOVO "FREEDOM FIGHTERS" FINANCED BY ORGANISED CRIME by Michel Chossudovsky Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and author of The Globalization of Poverty, Impacts of IMF and World Bank Reforms, Third World Network, Penang and Zed Books, London, 1997. C Copyright by Michel Chossudovsky, Ottawa, 1999. All rights reserved. Permission is granted to post this text on non-commercial internet sites, provided the essay remains intact and the copyright note is displayed. To publish this text in printed and/or other forms contact the author at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heralded by the global media as a humanitarian peace-keeping mission, NATO's ruthless bombing of Belgrade and Pristina goes far beyond the breach of international law. While Slobodan Milosevic is demonised, portrayed as a remorseless dictator, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) is upheld as a self-respecting nationalist movement struggling for the rights of ethnic Albanians. The truth of the matter is that the KLA is sustained by organised crime with the tacit approval of the United States and its allies. Following a pattern set during the War in Bosnia, public opinion has been carefully misled. The multibillion dollar Balkans narcotics trade has played a crucial role in "financing the conflict" in Kosovo in accordance with Western economic, strategic and military objectives. Amply documented by European police files, acknowledged by numerous studies, the links of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) to criminal syndicates in Albania, Turkey and the European Union have been known to Western governments and intelligence agencies since the mid-1990s. "...The financing of the Kosovo guerilla war poses critical questions and it sorely test claims of an "ethical" foreign policy. Should the West back a guerilla army that appears to partly financed by organised crime." 1 While KLA leaders were shaking hands with US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright at Rambouillet, Europol (the European Police Organization based in the Hague) was "preparing a report for European interior and justice ministers on a connection between the KLA and Albanian drug gangs."2 In the meantime, the rebel army has been skilfully heralded by the global media (in the months preceding the NATO bombings) as broadly representative of the interests of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. With KLA leader Hashim Thaci (a 29 year "freedom fighter") appointed as chief negotiator at Rambouillet, the KLA has become the de facto helmsman of the peace process on behalf of the ethnic Albanian majority and this despite its links to the drug trade. The West was relying on its KLA puppets to rubber-stamp an agreement which would have transformed Kosovo into an occupied territory under Western Administration. Ironically Robert Gelbard, America's special envoy to Bosnia, had described the KLA last year as "terrorists". Christopher Hill, America's chief negotiator and architect of the Rambouillet agreement "has also been a strong critic of the KLA for its alleged dealings in drugs."3 Moreover, barely a few two months before Rambouillet, the US State Department had acknowledged (based on reports from the US Observer Mission) the role of the KLA in terrorising and uprooting ethnic Albanians: "...the KLA harass or kidnap anyone who comes to the police, ... KLA representatives had threatened to kill villagers and burn their homes if they did not join the KLA [a process which has continued since the NATO bombings]... [T]he KLA harassment has reached such intensity that residents of six villages in the Stimlje region are "ready to flee." 4 While backing a "freedom movement" with links to the drug trade, the West seems also intent in bypassing the civilian Kosovo Democratic League and its leader Ibrahim Rugova who has called for an end to the bombings and expressed his desire to negotiate a peaceful settlement with the Yugoslav authorities.5 It is worth recalling that a few days before his March 31st Press Conference, Rugova had been reported by the KLA (alongside three other leaders including Fehmi Agani) to have been killed by the Serbs. Covert Financing of "Freedom Fighters" Remember Oliver North and the Contras? The pattern in Kosovo is similar to other CIA covert operations in Central America, Haiti and Afghanistan where "freedom fighters" were financed through the laundering of drug money. Since the onslaught of the Cold War, Western intelligence agencies have developed a complex relationship to the illegal narcotics trade. In case after case, drug money laundered in the international banking system has financed covert operations. According to author Alfred McCoy, the pattern of covert financing was established in the Indochina war. In the 1960s, the Meo army in Laos was funded by the narcotics trade as part of
[CTRL] Fwd: Kosovo recent history - 1987 NYT article.
Subject: Background to Kosovo Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:19:37 -0500 From: "spectors" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PROGRESSIVE SOCIOLOGISTS NETWORK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note from Alan Spector: As always, I (we) start off with the comment that the Yugoslav/Serb/Milosovic campaign in Kosovo is just another capitalist government consolidating power while causing grave harm to hundreds of thousands of people. Genocide is not an accurate term, but clearly there have been numerous murders and outright banditry. However, this extreme demonizing of the Serbs and treating the ethnic Albanian leadership as if there were saints is also ridiculous. FAIR (Fairness Accuracy in Reporting) a rather scrupulously careful media watchdog group, found an article from the New York Times from 1987 which offers some explanation as to why Milosovic revoked the autonomy of Kosovo and tightened control. Among other things, the major ethnic Albanian leadership had terrorized the minority Serbs, causing 20,000 Serbs to flee! Whatever crimes the Serb leadership is guilty of, the ethnic Albanian leadership can hardly be compared to the Jews or "gypsies" of Europe in the 1940s. There was plenty of ethnic cleansing to go around. Following is the short introduction from FAIR, followed by the NYT article. - FAIR Fairness Accuracy In Reporting 130 W. 25th Street New York, NY 10001 Rescued from the Memory Hole: Background of Serb/Albanian Conflict March 31, 1999 There is always intense pressure in wartime for media outlets to serve as propagandists rather than journalists. While the role of the journalist is to present the world in all its complexity, so that people can make up their own minds, the propagandist simplifies the world in order to mobilize the public behind a common goal. One basic simplification is to interpret a conflict in terms of villains and victims, with no qualification allowed for either role. Conflicts in the real world rarely fall into such simple categories: Particularly in ethnic conflicts, both sides usually have legitimate grievances that are often used to justify a new round of abuses against the other side. In presenting the background to the Kosovo conflict, U.S. news outlets usually begin with Serbia's revocation of the Kosovo Albanians' autonomy in 1989. This was a crucial decision, one of the major reasons for the rise of the Kosovo Liberation Army. It also destabilized the Yugoslavian system and contributed to the country's breakup. Yet media accounts have rarely explained why Serbia lifted Kosovo's autonomy. The attached article, from the New York Times in 1987, gives important background to this decision. Although the article is easily found in the Nexis database, little to none of this information has found its way into contemporary coverage of Kosovo, in the Times or anywhere else. If one read a similar history of Kosovo written today, one would likely dismiss it as pro-Serb propaganda. Yet this was written 12 years ago, when Kosovo was an obscure corner of the world, and the New York Times would not seem to have any particular interest in defending Serbs or attacking Albanians. It should be kept in mind that some of the charges in this article may be exaggerated or politically motivated. Of course, the same is true of atrocity reports that are being carried in the New York Times and other papers today. The New York Times November 1, 1987, Sunday, Late City Final Edition Section 1; Part 1, Page 14, Column 1; "In Yugoslavia, Rising Ethnic Strife Brings Fears of Worse Civil Conflict" By DAVID BINDER, Special to the New York Times BELGRADE, Yugoslavia Portions of southern Yugoslavia have reached such a state of ethnic friction that Yugoslavs have begun to talk of the horrifying possibility of ''civil war'' in a land that lost one-tenth of its population, or 1.7 million people, in World War II. The current hostilities pit separatist-minded ethnic Albanians against the various Slavic populations of Yugoslavia and occur at all levels of society, from the highest officials to the humblest peasants. A young Army conscript of ethnic Albanian origin shot up his barracks, killing four sleeping Slavic bunkmates and wounding six others. The army says it has uncovered hundreds of subversive ethnic Albanian cells in its ranks. Some arsenals have been raided. Vicious Insults Ethnic Albanians in the Government have manipulated public funds and regulations to take over land belonging to Serbs. And politicians have exchanged vicious insults. Slavic Orthodox churches have been attacked, and flags have been torn down. Wells have been poisoned and crops burned. Slavic boys have been knifed, and
[CTRL] OEN 4/9/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Government Debt Government Deficit So Far This Fiscal Year:$136 Billion Come on! Time to roll out those budget "surplus" lies again. Debt on 04/07/1999 $5,663,113,018,155.76 Debt on 09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62 Debt Increase $136,920,009,258 .14 See for yourself at The Public Debt to the Penny United Europe European Central Bank Cuts Target Rate By a Half-Percent But it didn't lift the euro. Gee, fancy that. FRANKFURT - The European Central Bank Thursday aggressively lowered interest rates for the Continent's 11-nation single-currency bloc, citing an economic slowdown, slumping confidence and weak job creation. ''I wanted the move to be as convincing as possible,'' ECB President Wim Duisenberg said after the bank's governing board voted to cut its entire panoply of lending rates. The ECB reduced its benchmark money market rate to 2.5 percent from 3 percent, more deeply than many economists had expected. Simultaneously it reduced its other two official rates that create a corridor for euro-bloc overnight bank lending, dropping the upper-end marginal lending rate by a full percentage point to 3.5 percent and its lower-end deposit facility by a half-point to 1.5 percent. The deep easing in the terms of credit was intended to lubricate Europe's sluggish economies while shielding the ECB from its many political critics who have denounced the three-month-old bank for its previous inaction on interest rates. The action Thursday was the first interest-rate move since Europe's common currency, the euro, was introduced Jan. 1. But the move failed to give the currency a lift against the dollar Thursday, as the euro lost gains registered early in the day. In late trading in New York, the euro was quoted at $1.0743, down from $1.0783 on Wednesday. Mr. Duisenberg bluntly served notice that the credit easing Thursday would be the last in the current economic cycle, expressly shifting responsibility for the Continent's high unemployment to Europe's political leaders. ''The unacceptably high rate of unemployment is due to structural factors and inefficiencies in markets for labor and markets for goods,'' he said. Highlighting Europe's overall slowdown, Britain separately cut rates Thursday in hope of providing support to that country's nascent economic recovery. Now that the ECB has said it has done all it can, Mr. Duisenberg pressed governments to undertake painful structural deregulation and tax measures to unleash new activity. By cutting rates, the central banker said he wanted to disarm the politicians who had blamed unemployment on central banks, saying it would now be more clear than ever that monetary policy could not compensate for structural rigidities. Europe is dragging itself through an unexpectedly pronounced slump even as Asia is showing tentative signs of recovery and the United States has defied the effects of the Asian crisis with surprisingly powerful growth. While unemployment in the United States last month fell to a 29-year low, Mr. Duisenberg noted that euro-bloc job creation registered ''a certain deceleration'' in the last three months of last year. Germany - which accounts for more than a third of the euro bloc's output - reported Thursday that German unemployment fell in March by only 3,000 on a seasonally adjusted basis, keeping unemployment near its worst levels since the 1930s. But a recession remains out of the question for now, Mr. Duisenberg said. ''We see a slowdown in the economic development,'' he said. ''We do not see or do not yet see a recession to be on our hands.'' The ECB effectively has deployed every tool at its disposal to revive growth by adding Thursday's deep interest-rate reduction to its apparent acceptance of the euro's relatively weak exchange rate. A weak currency bolsters exports by making them cheaper on world markets. The ECB, the guardian of the new currency, seemed Thursday to indicate a new and more relaxed attitude about the euro's drop of nearly 10 percent against the dollar. ''We are not at all dissatisfied with that level,'' Mr. Duisenberg said. Acceptance of the relatively soft euro marks a shift from initial signs of alarm in the weeks immediately following the euro's birth, economists say. Since then, the political background has changed, starting with last month's surprise resignation as finance minister of Oskar Lafontaine, the German official who had taken the lead in blaming Europe's central bankers for the Continent's economic ailments. International Herald Tribune, April 9, 1999 Operation Allied Farce Nato Sends 8000 Troops to Albania Hopefully only Italians will die in the coming ground war NATO authorised the deployment of 8,000 ground troops to Albania yesterday to deal with the worsening Kosovar refugee crisis, amid growing calls for the use of Western soldiers to authorities to
[CTRL] Bombs Away
-Caveat Lector- from: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/digital/daily/0,2822,12032,00.html A HREF="http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/digital/daily/0,2822,12032,00.html"TIME Digital - May 1, 1997: Bombs Away /A - Bombs Away FROM THURSDAY, MAY 1, 1997 ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED IN THE NETLY NEWS Internet fear-mongering is back in vogue inside the White House. The Clinton administration escalated its assault on the Net this week, warning that it provides bomb-making recipes to anyone "with a modem" and proposing a new law to restrict such information. In a 53-page report released on Tuesday, the Department of Justice alleges that criminals are trawling cyberspace for how-to kits on making explosives. "ATF statistics reflect that, between 1985 and June 1996, the investigations of at least 30 bombings and four attempted bombings resulted in the recovery of bomb-making literature that the suspects had obtained from the Internet," the report says. "A member of the DoJ committee accessed a single web site on the World Wide Web and obtained the titles of 110 different bomb-making texts." That's not all. On Monday, Defense Secretary William Cohen blamed the Internet for spreading bomb-making info and encouraging terrorist attacks. Then yesterday the Justice Department told a House subcommittee that "terrorists, organized crime, child pornographers, drug cartels, financial predators, hostile foreign intelligence agents, and other criminals" will benefit from unbreakable encryption. It's no surprise: Washington bureaucrats want to control the Net. And what better excuse than protecting children? The Justice Department study says: "ATF investigators participated in the investigation of two North Attleboro, Massachusetts, juveniles, aged 11 and 14, who were injured while attempting to make an improvised explosive device. The youths had retrieved from the Internet information on how to make napalm, and were badly burned when a mixture being heated on a kitchen stove ignited." Nowhere does the government admit that it's the parents' job to tell their kids not to cook napalm in Mom's frying pan. And, of course, detailed instructions on bomb-making can be found not just online, but in libraries and even government bookstores. "Such information is readily available to anyone with a Waldenbooks bookstore in the local mall or who has access to a public library," says Bob Corn-Revere, an attorney at the Washington firm of Hogan Hartson. "Such information is readily available to anyone who can read. When you boil down these arguments to their essential root, the argument is that there's just too much speech out there." "Call me cynical, but the fact that this is coming out during the Oklahoma bombing trial strikes me as not coincidental," Corn-Revere says. Indeed, it was the Oklahoma bombing that spurred Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), one of D.C.'s most censor-happy politicos, into action two years ago. Rescue workers were still pulling bodies from the rubble when she tried to score some political points by banning bomb-making instructions in print or online. She attached her amendment to an anti-terrorism bill that Congress was considering. Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) joined her in moral outrage, saying his staff found a recipe on Usenet for "baby food bombs" that were "so powerful that they can destroy a car." (Note to the U.S. Senate: Don't believe everything you read on netnews.) Then Feinstein ran up against the First Amendment. Frank Tuerkheimer, a former federal prosecutor, told the Senate Judiciary Committee in May 1995 that "our obligations to remain true to the basic values that characterize our system of government" should not "be weakened by the horrors of the moment." The House Republicans scuttled Feinstein's plan in favor of requiring the Justice Department to report on the availability of bomb-makinginformation and to recommend new laws if necessary. Now the Justice Department proposes a law even broader than Feinstein's boondoggle: It would ban descriptions about the "use" of explosives in addition to information on their manufacture, and restrict information on "destructive devices" and "weapons of mass destruction" as well. It would, however, require a prosecutor to prove a defendant had intent to "further" a crime. "We have concluded that Senator Feinstein's proposal can withstand constitutional muster in most, if not all, of its possible applications, if such legislation is slightly modified in several respects that we propose," the report says. Will Feinstein take the bait and try again? "As far as future plans, I don't know," a staffer told me. Of course she'll try again. Politicians can't help but grandstand on top of tragedy. Which is why Feinstein and her colleagues would do well to listen to Justice Brandeis, who wrote in 1928: "The greatest threats to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." -- DECLAN MCCULLAGH - Aloha, He'Ping, Om,
[CTRL] On Radio Show
-Caveat Lector- Howdy all, Gonna be on radio, this Sunday night, 9-10 pm PDT on these stations with Michael Corbin. Om K http://www.paranetinfo.com/html/affiliates.html A HREF="http://www.paranetinfo.com/html/affiliates.html"affiliates/A - All affiliates are now carrying the show LIVE (9-10 PM PT). Alaska KINY - AM 800 - Juneau Arizona KXAM - AM 1310 - Scottsdale/Phoenix California KYOS - AM 1480 - Merced Colorado KRRF - AM 1280 - Denver (now enjoy two hours LIVE in Denver!) KNFO - FM 106.1 - Aspen; translators 95.3 - Glenwood Springs, 96.7, 105.5 - Vail Idaho KIDO - AM 630 - Boise Missouri KCMO - AM 710 - Kansas City (Hear us live on the web via RealAudio from KCMO!) Montana KMMS - AM 1450 - Bozeman Oregon KGAL - AM 1580 - Eugene/Corvallis - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [4] Treason in America -- From Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman
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Treason in America -- From Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman
ANTON CHAITKIN (C)1984
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P. O. Box 20551
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"The Whole Continent of America Will Become English"
Aaron Burr was sworn in as Vice-President of the United States on March 4,
1801. Thomas Jefferson was sworn in as President, and appointed Albert
Gallatin Secretary of the Treasury.
The United States had been the victim of undeclared war by the British since
the Treaty of Paris officially ended the American War for Independence in
1783. British forces, in Canada and in forts still occupied by the British
within the United States, directed Indian attacks against American frontier
settlers until 1796. Under the pretext of war with France, British Secretary
of State Henry Dundas in 1793 had signed an order authorizing British
warships to attack and seize U.S. vessels that might have been trading with
the colonies of France.
About 550 American ships were indiscriminately seized, their cargoes stolen,
and their crews kidnapped and "impressed" into the British navy. Thousands of
U.S. seamenas many as 10-20,000 were dragged onto British warships.
As British-French warfare intensified in the late 1790s, the French also
began attacking U.S. ships, seizing the cargo of perhaps 350 ships. Since the
American sailors spoke a different language, they could be of no use to the
French navy.
At the same time North African fiefdomsthe "Barbary pirates"were maintained
by British money and supplies as a terrorist auxiliary to the British navy,
ensuring British rule of the sea by crippling or destroying other nations'
transatlantic commerce.
Prior to the Jefferson administration, the American government had made a
start toward defending itself against this onslaught. A brief summary of
these efforts will be useful for comparison with the policy the
Jefferson-Burr-Gallatin administration was to adopt beginning in 1801.(1)
The first public works law, passed in 1789, had set up federal control of
aids to navigation. Treasury Secretary Hamilton personally directed the
construction of the Cape Henry lighthouse, built in 1792 at the entrance to
Chesapeake Bay, and in use until 1881. The Montauk lighthouse at the end of
Long Island was built in 1797.
Hamilton got congressional authorization in 1790 for ten boats to patrol the
coast against smuggling, a project which was the ancestor of today's Coast
Guard.
Fears of renewed war with Great Britain led to congressional authorization
for the first American system of seacoast fortifications: repairing three
existing positions and fortifying 16 additional harbors. The Corps of
Artillerists and Engineers was created in 1795 to direct most fortification
work, including Fort McHenry in Baltimore harbor.
The southern frontiers were defended against the Spanish and the Indians by
four forts built in Georgia, and the army took over Fort Stevens at Mobile
from the Spanish. Under the 1796 Jay Treaty, the United States took from the
British Forts Niagara and Oswego in upstate New York, and Forts
Michilimackinac and Detroit in Michigan.
Fort Washington was built in the Ohio territory at the site of what was later
the city of Cincinnati. Fort Pickering was built in 1797 at the mouth of the
Tennessee River. A fort was built in 1797 on the Mississippi River near
present-day Vicksburg.
The first post-Revolutionary naval construction began in 1794 in response to
the attacks of the North African terrorists ("pirates"). President Washington
was initially authorized to commission 2,060 naval personnel, while six
frigates were to be built.
The first three frigates, the United States, the Constellation and the
Constitution, were completed in 1797. Then-congressional opposition leader
Albert Gallatin fought against their construction, on the grounds that "If
the sums to be expended to build and maintain the frigates were applied to
paying a part of our national debt, the payment would make us more
respectable in the eyes of foreign nations than all the frigates we can
build.(2)
The other three authorized ships were built in 1798 when the French attacks
intensified, and the Department of the Navy was created in 1798. Navy
Secretary Benjamin Stoddert of Maryland purchased land and set up
government-owned naval yards for ship construction: in Washington, near the
capital; in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, with ample timber and skilled
craftsmen; in Boston, where the legislature ceded choice land; in Brooklyn,
New York, at an old Revolutionary War anchorage; in Norfolk, Virginia; and in
Philadelphia at the foot of Broad Street.
After the 1801 election, Congress completed the Washington-Adams program by
appropriating an additional $500,000 for the building of six more warships
and the completion of yards, docks, and wharves.
The regular army was strengthened and a 15,000-man provisional force was
created in 1797. General Alexander Hamilton was second
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: My subpoena from the Department of Justice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's always awkward, and usually unwelcome, for a journalist to become part of an story he's covering. It just happened to me in a case I wrote about last year: A criminal prosecution of a member of the cypherpunks list for allegedly posting threatening email that mentioned federal officials. The Department of Justice today subpoenaed me to testify next Monday in the trial, which is in US District Court in Tacoma, Washington. (Feel free to show up if you're in the area. I should be one of the first witnesses that morning.) I wrote a three-part Time Digital Daily article on the case, which is pretty interesting: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/digital/daily/0,2822,593,00.html http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/digital/daily/0,2822,595,00.html http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/digital/daily/0,2822,610,00.html The DoJ wants me to testify about my research and information about the case I collected. At least I made the government work hard for this. My lawyer made sure Janet Reno personally approved this particular subpoena, which is required under DoJ rules when a journalist receives one. - -Declan PS: In other news, the post-CFP party was a blast. About 150 people showed up, and the most ardent partygoers didn't leave until 4 am. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i iQA/AwUBNw3o5T4oIjNdPtYXEQIunQCg9JTC+frJVdhibcOGUHFXcV+5J20An0IV n59B1wsYiEP62CNxXZUBGsWB =U0nG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology To subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text: subscribe politech More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ --
[CTRL] Research Law Fight: Right to Know, or to Squelch?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/05/003l-040599-idx.html A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/05/003l-040599-idx.h tml"Research Law Fight: Right to Know, or to Squelc /A - Research Law Fight: Right to Know, or to Squelch? By John Schwartz Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, April 5, 1999; Page A07 It seemed like such a simple idea at first: Make all data from federally funded scientific research more available to the public. How could anyone, especially scientists, be against openness and the public's right to examine or better understand science? But it has turned out to be far from simple. The federal law intended to make that happen has triggered loud and angry opposition from the scientific community. "This is a meat-ax approach to access to data when it's actually a fine scalpel that's required," said Mary Ellen Sheridan of the University of Chicago at a recent forum on the issue held at the American Association for the Advancement of Science. Scientists and the institutions they work for say the law will add to the costs of research, will be used to harass and intimidate researchers whose work angers powerful interest groups and companies, and could expose their work to the prying eyes of potential academic and commercial competitors. They contend that it will even imperil the privacy of people who volunteer for research projects. Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) said he sponsored the bill, passed by Congress at the end of last year, after he was refused access to Harvard School of Public Health studies that the Environmental Protection Agency used to develop controversial new air pollution rules. EPA Administrator Carol M. Browner said she could not release the data because it belonged to Harvard; the university had refused to hand the data over to critical industry groups such as the American Petroleum Institute. The Harvard researchers eventually turned the data over to a third party for review, but Shelby wasn't mollified. "The taxpayers are paying billions of dollars for scientific research that they have a right to have access to," Shelby said. "Any study ought to be able to be defended, if it's worth publishing, if it's worth making policies over. . . . I think that's just common sense." Now some lawmakers are trying to repeal the law, which makes federally funded research subject to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). "This is clearly one of those things that becomes more complicated the more we look at it," said Jean Fruci, an aide to Rep. George E. Brown Jr. (D-Calif.), who has introduced a repeal bill. "You spend a little bit of time up here on the Hill, when something looks too good to be true, you know you're in trouble," Fruci said. Brown does not question Shelby's motives in passing the original bill, and Fruci noted that Congress passed the law and President Clinton signed it. "If it's a mistake, it's a bipartisan mistake." But drug companies, too, have expressed reservations about the law. It is "potentially chilling on the conduct of clinical trials--which is certainly not good public policy," said Chuck Ludlam, vice president for government relations at the Biotechnology Industry Association. The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America has voiced similar worries about patient confidentiality and trade secrets. The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) has made an initial attempt to draft regulations based on the new law, narrowing its scope to apply only to published research and to research that is used as the basis for making federal policy or rules. But those who oppose the law say it cannot be tinkered into better shape. "FOIA is really a blunt instrument when it comes to striking the right balance" between the need to share data and to protect researchers and their work, said Nils Hasselmo, president of the American Association of University Professors. In a recent letter to the OMB, Hasselmo wrote: "We do not believe it is possible for OMB to allay these concerns given the problems inherent in the underlying statute." Shelby staff members said FOIA has exceptions to protect commercially sensitive information and confidential medical information. Scientists and institutions opposing the new law say their fears that the law will be used to harass are not idle speculation: State open records laws, they say, have already been used to punish researchers whose results anger powerful companies and patient-advocacy groups. Oregon drug researcher Bruce Psaty, for example, contends that his work on the health risks of drugs known as calcium channel blockers was met with harassing investigations by drug companies. "These public records laws that were supposed to protect the public were really subverted in behalf of private interests," he said. Similarly, Paul Fisher, a Georgia-based doctor, said his state's laws helped drive him out of research altogether. He published an
[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Civilian Targets Being Bombed
-Caveat Lector- NOTE: Following is the latest report from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic (aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and Psychonaut. He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and is staying in contact with the international alternative comics community by e-mail. From: "Aleksandar Zograf" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sasa Rakezic P.F.163 26000 Pancevo Yugoslavia /Serbia/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] April 8th 1999. It's few minutes after 10PM already, and no emergency sirens... That's pretty odd, because we were almost getting used to NATO raids around 8 or 9 PM. (Ooops, they just announced the state of Emergency, at 10.15). Last night, the Oil Refinery in Pancevo was not attacked, but many people have left the town already because of the fear of ecological disaster...Gordana hoped that we will spot the shop which sells cigaretes somewhere, because the que will not be so huge in the emptied town...But it seems that all the supplies were sold out already. Dozens of buses prepared in case of need for evacuation were parked in few parts of the town. Gordana went to her job in a near-by village, to find out that it was full of people who escaped there from the town last evening... Tonight, rock bands are playing a concert on a large bridge over Danube, which connects Pancevo and Belgrade... Let's hope that it will convince NATO not to drop bombs while the people are there? Last night the bombs fell on the Justice Court building in the very heart of Belgrade. The building was not used by the military at all, and it was a coicidence that nobody was hurt, as the passers-by (despite the emergency) were walking there on the pavement and watched the projectile falling from the sky in a beautiful evening... I saw the report about bombings of a small town of Cuprija, the place that I visited several times... I remember it as a quiet, sleepy town, and it was bizarre to see the buildings and little shops destroyed, with the articles from the boutiques spilled all over the place... As the bombing campaign progress, more and more civilian targets have been shot, and more and more people are being killed and yet it's hard to find out about the egzact number of the victims... I guess that authorities think that it will be too depressing to count deads in situation like this?... On the lighter side of reality, we heard that Serbian cartoonist Ivana Filipovic has succesfully moved to Vancouver, Canada...Good luck, Ivana! Also, friends from Galago (one of the best European alternative comics magazines) said that they are ready to come to Belgrade for the exhibition of contemporary Swedish comics scene , as soon as the war stops. The exhibition was in preparation shortly before the whole madness began...I hope to see you soon, guys. Regards Sasa DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Treason in America
-Caveat Lector- Kris is right... Larouche is no saint but he does have a lot of very good information from time to time. I'll bet even Clinton will tell the truth occasionally if it meets his immediate needs. Larouche's EIR magazine (Executive Intelligence Review) did an outstanding analysis on the ozone hole scare a few years ago. BTW I have an autographed copy of the Treason in America book... Chaitkin wrote, "Good luck for an honest career in journalism." :) - Lynda In a message dated 4/7/99 10:10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This appears to be a front for Larouche. Am I wrong? Chaitkan has written for Larouchian publications. But that doesn't invalidate his research and leads. I found Treason in America to be a very interesting book and well source, so one can follow-up and study for oneself. If its dis/mis, there is still much to learn. Om K -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/9/99 9:41:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Teo, I have to disagree and I sincerely hope that I am not alone in the thoughts I am about to post. Certainly those who commit heinous acts are to blame for their acts, but those who hold the same beliefs, though they may not act on them inevitably turn the other cheek and do nothing to stop the acts, and are therefore just as responsible. That is why the all-powerful and never named "THEY" say "If you're not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem." Not necessarily. Blanket statements are never an accurate assessment of the capabilities of people. Some will do as you say, and some will not. NO ONE but the people who commit the acts are responsible for the harm they cause. If I see someone getting beaten and choose to do nothing to stop that I a not guilty of beating the person. If, on the other hand my ACTIONS allow that person to come to harm then there is some responsibility there. Many more people who are not bigoted or racist would act in the very same manner, so mindset is not a good judging factor when making blanket judgments, even when the LIKELIHOOD of the action taking place is increased. No deed, no harm by you, no crime by you. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Treason in America
-Caveat Lector- The first time I saw L. Larouche speak was on TV years ago. I switched to the channel he was on and, quite honestly, thought I was watching a skit on SNL. I laughed my ass off until I realized he wasn't joking. Then frankly, I thought is was a nut case. Fortunately, in all insanity there is a kernel of truth. I suppose it depends on how much junk and nonsense you want to muck around in to find that truth. Just my 2 cents worth. Hilary -- From: Lyn McCloskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Treason in America Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 9:06 AM -Caveat Lector- Kris is right... Larouche is no saint but he does have a lot of very good information from time to time. I'll bet even Clinton will tell the truth occasionally if it meets his immediate needs. Larouche's EIR magazine (Executive Intelligence Review) did an outstanding analysis on the ozone hole scare a few years ago. BTW I have an autographed copy of the Treason in America book... Chaitkin wrote, "Good luck for an honest career in journalism." :) - Lynda In a message dated 4/7/99 10:10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This appears to be a front for Larouche. Am I wrong? Chaitkan has written for Larouchian publications. But that doesn't invalidate his research and leads. I found Treason in America to be a very interesting book and well source, so one can follow-up and study for oneself. If its dis/mis, there is still much to learn. Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skolnick Sees Hitler-Style Plan (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- This green card stuff is like putting the Star of David on the Jews during WWII; an emblem, of which they could be proud, but resulted in Hitler's Master plan identifying his enemies. The green card became popular in the mid eighty period; I knew one Iranian who was broken hearted over the sitution with his home country and the USA; he loved America, and wanted to return to Iran - he was into computer programming and suddenly, he was the enemy with or without a green card. During WWII of course, one could tell the Japanese when they were taken from their homes; there were cartoons with Japanese, all with buck teeth; yet, if one looked at Eleanor Roosevelt, her teeth were the buckiest of buckiestso another enemy identified and march to concentration camps. Now, all this talk about the concentration camps; the the Mexican guard going after those wishing to excape from Mexico, to come to the land where the streets are paved with gold. Now does one wonder why China built the great wall; of whom do they have to be afraid. In a ground war, we would be out numbered; their size, is what has kept them unreachable, the weakness was the love of the scholar and not the warriorJapan beat them in a war? It is a time warp as recorded in one communication = it is 1938, only it looks like we are about to become the butcherslook at Janet Reno, that Butcher of Wacoif they do that to American Citizens, who have done no harm except to try to explaint what this Master Plan is (after all, Hitler thrived in the Revelations) so the Feds made it possible for how many people was it - men, women, children, to burn in the fiery furnances - remember what happend to the Jewish people, men, women, and children.creamation. Hallep Bobb's Do and David Korerish, and he took that name right out of the bible - were trying to tell the American people that we were walking into a trap. Clinton is the Beast in the Revelations, not Hitler ...and it is all symbolism. If the truth be known, if people read their Old Testament, they would not want their children to read it. But, it is the law - ever stop to think of that - that our constitution replaced the bible, with the law.andn it is up to the peope to rule, not these so called demigods to rule. These people in the Congress and the office of the President are to serve and provide services; they are not to play games of sodomy in the White House while they are putting the foulest of TV programming on the air not fit for human consumption; they are feeding the people garbage... Prior to WWII, Hitler's Germany had pornography spread all over the country; books on black magic, propagand to hate the Jew - but first, as I recall, didn't Hitler disarm the people of Germany? Well we see what Hitler did; and Clinton has the makings of a monster greater than HitlerHitler, took on the work of the League of Nations; Clinton takes on work of the UN, but has even superseded its powers, by the creation of a war force called NATO which is about to replace the UN in Europe. Yes, there is Evil iunder the sun, and it began this time, in Clinton's Garden of Eden, where he has reduced the levelof this country to the serpent and he expects the people of this country to slither around with him in the mud. Vote them all out. Take Al Gore, this born again Christian, and get a good look at him. What is he; who is he; why is he. Pat Buchanan begins to look better and better to me; he speaks the truth - but he better speak the whole truth, because Americans are fed up with the news media, and both major parties. They want a real man in the White House, not a simpering little Coward hiding behind the skirts of two women = one the Butcher of Waco, and the other, Madam Albright...the would be butcher of the Balkans. Colleen Walsh Jones DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PENTAGON MODIFIED THE ANTHRAX VACCINE
-Caveat Lector- SCIENTIFIC AND DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THAT THE PENTAGON MODIFIED THE ANTHRAX VACCINE May 1999 Vanity Fair Article Reveals Results Of Recent Medical Study; Nuremberg Code Violations Alleged WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The May 1999 issue of Vanity Fair, which will be available next week, reveals the results of a study that found the presence of squalene, a highly toxic adjuvant that does not have FDA approval, in the blood of those military personnel who have received the anthrax vaccine. The study, which was performed by a Tennessee molecular biologist and immunologists at Tulane University Medical School, examined the blood of approximately 350 persons including Gulf War veterans and current servicemembers. One subject group of those suffering from Gulf War Syndrome, each of whom had received the anthrax vaccine, tested 100% positive for squalene. The article also revealed the existence of previously unknown attempts by the Pentagon to subcontract the manufacture of the anthrax vaccine at locations unlicensed and unregulated by the FDA. This story follows the issuance of a General Accounting Office report issued on March 29, 1999, concluding that the Pentagon should determine if squalene is a contributing factor in Gulf War Syndrome. "If proven true, the Defense Department has committed conduct similar in nature to that which we condemned the Nazis from performing 50 years ago. It would mean our troops have been used as guinea pigs," said Mark S. Zaid, Executive Director of The James Madison Project (JMP). Zaid added that the presence of a non-FDA approved adjuvant in the anthrax vaccine would change the vaccine to being "experimental", thereby requiring the military to obtain voluntary consent before inoculation. JMP is actively exploring filing a class action injunction against the Department of Defense for an immediate cessation of the anthrax vaccination program, which is currently mandatory. The Defense Department has implemented plans to inoculate all 2.4 million active duty personnel against anthrax at an estimated cost of $130 million. The immunization series calls for six injections of the "killed bacteria" vaccine over a period of 18 months, followed by annual booster shots. Vaccinations began in March 1998. The FDA first approved the vaccine for civilian use against incidental infection in 1970. However, concerns have been raised about the vaccine's effectiveness against massive doses of weaponized anthrax anticipated in an intentional biological warfare attack. In addition, the only FDA-approved manufacturer, the Michigan Biologic Products Institute (now BioPort), has been repeatedly cited for quality control problems. "The Defense Department has openly misled its personnel and the American public on the overall safety of the anthrax vaccine. The evidence unequivocally demonstrates that no information exists concerning the long-term effect of the vaccine on humans, and that the adverse reaction rates are up to seven times greater than approved by the manufacturer and the FDA," said Mr. Zaid. He added that recently obtained internal documents revealed that the Pentagon had determined the current six shot series was "outdated" and "unnecessary", yet still implemented the vaccination program. Mr. Zaid presented his findings at a hearing held before the Subcommittee on National Security, Veterans Affairs, and International Relations of the Committee on Government Reform in the U.S. House of Representatives on March 24, 1999. In April 1998, Mr. Zaid was the first attorney to represent military personnel refusing the vaccine when several sailors onboard the U.S.S. Independence refused to submit to the vaccination. As General Counsel for the non-profit organization Veterans for Integrity in Government, Mr. Zaid also filed an action in June 1998, under the Freedom of Information Act that forced the Defense Department and the military to disclose thousands of pages of documents that were previously unseen. JMP recently represented Airman Jeffrey Bettendorf in his court-martial proceeding, the first involving an anthrax refuser, at Travis Air Force Base based on his refusal to submit to the anthrax vaccine. Currently, JMP represents four Marines who are facing court-martial proceedings at Twenty-Nine Palms in California. JMP is a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit organization with the primary purpose of educating the public on issues relating to intelligence gathering and operations, secrecy policies, national security and government wrongdoing. JMP also handles litigation under the Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts, including representation of news organizations, journalists, authors, intelligence officers, whistleblowers or others who allege harm at the hand of a government, foreign or domestic, in matters involving intelligence, national security and government accountability issues. ## DECLARATION DISCLAIMER
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, ...
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Not necessarily. Blanket statements are never an accurate assessment of the capabilities of people. Some will do as you say, and some will not. NO ONE but the people who commit the acts are responsible for the harm they cause. If I see someone getting beaten and choose to do nothing to stop that I a not guilty of beating the person. If, on the other hand my ACTIONS allow that person to come to harm then there is some responsibility there. Many more people who are not bigoted or racist would act in the very same manner, so mindset is not a good judging factor when making blanket judgments, even when the LIKELIHOOD of the action taking place is increased. No deed, no harm by you, no crime by you. we are responsible for our feelings in as much as our feelings are the basis by which we act. how would you like to have a president that hated (in his opinion) half-witted half-assed moderatators who had a lot of opinions. how would you like it if this president had a lot of support and people out there who were more than happy to act on his prejudice and hunt you down with dogs and have their way with you. the same can be said about adults with children, parents have to take responsibility for how their feelings will become manifest in their children; or do you believe that it is okay for people to raise their children to hate certain aspects of society. these examples are only tentitive but they show how there is consequence to our feelings and there is an ecology therein, wherein we must take responsibility for how we feel. apparently the law feels that way too as this is the basis by which they prosecuted manson. manson did not do the deeds himself but the acts were manifestations of how he felt. they say that he did but manson did not actually send his followers out to do his biding. prejudice cannot be objective; in court it can be the basis of a mistrial, if it can be proved. i feel the same as you that it is not the realm of the law to dictate how we should feel but there is an area there where we must assume a certain responsibilty for our own feelings and particular responsibility for how our feelings manifest in the world along with the consequences thereof. chris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PENTAGON MODIFIED THE ANTHRAX VACCINE
-Caveat Lector- Remember too, Anthrax equates to Menningitisand some of hese vaccines, remember the Swine Flu shots that were killing and hurting people; they had so much vaccine that Gerald Ford got his Swine Flu shot in public, to encourge people to take this vaccine.. Where was the need for this Victorian and Swine Flu shot? People do not know enough to be insulted; Swine Flu...now its Mad Cow Diseasedestroying the meat industry and the farmer in England.what about all that hambergur McDonald is selling over there and around the worldcould it contain Mad Cow Disease... What about the mutilated cattle found in different areas; could it be they are after certain glands, and what have you - or perhaps the pineal glands which may hold the key to the future. Or maybe they have gone to the zoo, and made man in the monkeys image. These are NAZI experiments.and remember, Werner von Braun was responsible for over 100 Nazi Scientist entering our countryand we, our government thorugh our CIA and other intelligence (if you can call that intelligence) hav assumed the pose of the enemy. The federal governmen knows that even the polio innoculation can cause brain damage, but what was it - only 1 in 100,000 - and that is just fine, so long as you are not the one. Where are all the Nazi doctors who were t Jonestown.have they taken over certain secret societies - the experimentor and the experimenteesthese people are the war criminals, and we have been picking up the tab. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PENTAGON MODIFIED THE ANTHRAX VACCINE
-Caveat Lector- I might add, who profits here? Well, the drug companies. And here is one interesting note, that I almost forgot about. Prior to JFK's murder, he had ordered an investigation into all drugs marketed after 1930.I wondered why, and came up with long list of secrets.all the medications, over the counter, causing blood dyscrasias, an altered condition of the blood leading to cancerno wonder JFK was murdered in the streets of Dallas. JFK knew what was going on in this country, and was attempting to put a halt to it. Viagralook how the news media promoted this - ever hear of payolla? When I was young I used to send out 4 envelopes with cash inside, to 4 different newsmen. Once I asked what it was; my friend, just looked and did not answer; later the bookkeeper told me wwhat payolla was, which is illega. How many men have died so far using Viagra; how much was Dole paid to support same; of course, his wife heads up blood banks that are so pollutedi it would be better to take a chance on dying, that picking up what some blood has to offer. Why is it only the Jehovah Witnesses tried to warn the public about AIDS and other diseases while the government remained silent years go. This is all a form of massive genocidedo you think these bastards care about you, or me, if they can cause the death of the President, who represents all of us. Bring on the Clowns; I am sick to death of the assassins. Colleen What we have come to think of it is a bunch of Clowns, but when yo remove the mask you see the face of evil on some. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: My subpoena from the Department of Justice
-Caveat Lector- Don't feel bad; I had an FBI watch on me, but was told by two Teamsters packing rods that "well, anyway, you were cleared; they know you are getting the information on your own".well, I should hope so, and I figured if "I could get the information on my own" anybody could. Yet, the coverup continued, and I kept hoping someone would do something. Wel Nelson Rockefeller put out the word - anybody knowing anything about the JFK assassination, write.and you know what I did, I wrote a letter but I also gave him hell for covering up the whole thing in the first place. One day, my doorbell rang.two men were standing outside my door, which I mistook for Fuller Brush Men, or Avan CallingI answere same, and heard someting like "the vice president sent us", to which I replied "the vice president of what", nd they said "Of the United States"/ So, i asked them come back at 4:00, as I was in my robe.and they did. The first thing they did was look at my book shelf, and then asked me what I thought of Kissinger, which must have been a test questionI though - who, Code Name BORbut refrained from comment and just shrugged my shoulders.they asked if I had a gun in the house..heavens no, and I didn't even have a Pit Bull then. Now my sister was an artist; and I had this big painting on the wall of the Red Devil, that a priest had bought.it was really something.this one agent said who did that = and without thinking I said "my sister painted that - it looks like this attorney I know".. Well, this man, a gentleman, said "yes, some attornies are like that".and then the questions..they knew what college I had gone to, and of course let this slip apparently they had traced me back to Darwin's golden monkies.to make things worse, Dale Reusch the Grand Dragon of the KKK had just been there and stuck the KKK cross on my door, because quite frankly, at that time I needed all the protection I could get. So, there I saw with all these books on the Illuminati, the KKK, the Mafia, the Bible, the CIA, and a KKK cross on my door, and I asked why they had called upon me. Well, it was that letter that I had written Rockefeller. And I said - and I recall this - Oh that, well he asked for itthe information, I meant. The one agen dropped his pencil and pad; the other rolled his eyes. I knew what they were thinkingI had to be a basket case. They had one bit of friendly advice; they said "be careful what you write in letters, it could get you into a lot of trouble". Frankly, the onoy thing I wrote about in that letter, was the CIA the Mafia, Adolph Hitler, the KKK, my Bible Code, and all the cover=upsand I said every Mason in the country knew what was going on. Now, what I had said was quite accurate, only at the time,one did not read this in the newsppaers. Later, I got angry and called the SS and asked for "Mr. Miracle".and this man said "Oh, you're the one they called on today".they were laughting, so at least I was off the hook in one respect, but now, a basket case on their list. However, I was right.I asked this agent, just to be nasty, what is the biggest secret about making counterfeit money.and he said, of course, it is the paper..and I said well, why are they selling shredded money to a man in Dallas, who in turn is selling it.and this was during the time when CIA was issuing its own money. Well, at least I knew tht I could not trust the Vice President of the United States sending two of his Fuller Brush men to see me (Avon is owned by the Rockefllers I understand, and when I hear Avon Calling, I raise the moat). Looking back I can laugh at this; I had broken no laws, I knew there was something wrong; my newsman was dead, and the other one had told me "Hey got kids, got family"but I still had Sybil who by now, realized that what I had was valid. I took the kKK cross off the door, and sent the Illuminati records to an underground church that looks reputable from the front; and I got rid of my Black Muslim newspapers, and got a phoney name to use at the library, as they even watched the books I was reading. Now, if they do this stuff to an averge americn citizen, imagine wht they woud do to someone with a little clout, like his own newspaper. Such is life; and the Hell with the Chief - its every man for himself. Colleen A Thorn in the Side of the SS and FBI (at least, I once had that honor) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
[CTRL] Fw: LM COMMENTARY: Blair's 'humanitarian' war/04-09-99
-Caveat Lector- AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. -Thomas Huxley + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. - Original Message - From: LM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LM-commentary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 9:13 AM Subject: LM COMMENTARY: Blair's 'humanitarian' war/04-09-99 : : WHY BLAIR'S 'HUMANITARIAN' WAR IS EVEN WORSE : : Mick Hume, LM editor : : For the first time, a Labour prime minister leads Britain into a major : international war. What's more, Tony Blair is being cheered on loudest by : the 'peacenik' Guardian and 'Red' Ken Livingstone, while Tory MPs and the : Daily Mail worry about the war. If anybody still doubts that the era of : traditional right v left politics has ended, let them inspect the evidence : in the craters Bomber Blair and his NATO allies have left behind in Serbia. : : Some on the old left see this as a case of New Labour taking over the : mantle of Thatcher-style militarism. But it is worse than that. The grim : truth is that those who now wage war in the name of humanitarianism are : even more dangerous than the old war parties. : : Blair himself has made clear that the war against Milosevic's Serbia 'is no : longer just a military conflict. It is a battle between Good and Evil; : between civilisation and barbarity'. : : In such a fundamental battle, the righteous do not feel themselves : constrained in the way one might do during a mere 'military conflict'. : : Traditional right-wing militarists might have tailored their battle : strategy to take account of the needs of realpolitik and diplomacy; after : all, their wars were only supposed to uphold their national interests. : Blair's war, on the other hand, is a grand mission to save humanity. And : when you are running such a high-minded crusade, you need recognise no : restraints on the ground. Those who proclaim that they have right on their : side can do no wrong. : : That is why, as they drop their cluster bombs and fire their Cruise : missiles from the vantage point of the moral high ground, Blair and his : ministers and generals refuse even to consider that NATO's missions are : killing people and destroying a country. They are simply 'degrading' the : 'killing machine' of the evil Milosevic. Confronted with the fact that : their war has caused a catastrophe in Kosovo, they insist that NATO air : strikes are actually preventing a humanitarian disaster. Faced with the : hard evidence of how NATO bombing raids have reduced areas of the Kosovan : capital, Pristina, to rubble, they say that the Serbs must have inflicted : the damage themselves. : : If NATO's Good Humanitarians believe that they are necessarily innocent of : any offence, then they are equally certain that the Evil Serbs must be : guilty of everything of which they have been accused. So foreign secretary : Robin Cook, defence secretary George Robertson and their media mouthpieces : report as fact every horror story coming out of the war zone. : : And when these are proved to be untrue (as when 'executed' ethnic Albanian : leaders turn up alive; a Pristina football stadium housing a 'concentration : camp' of 10 000 is found to be empty; or the school where '20 teachers were : murdered in front of their pupils' turns out to be in a village of only 200 : people), they refuse to admit it. Why worry about the facts when there is : always another unsubstantiated atrocity tale that can justify sending in : helicopter gunships for the cause of Good? : : If there is no restraint on the conduct of Blair's humanitarian war, there : can be no questioning of it either. Uncooperative BBC journalists are : accused of aiding the evil Milosevic, while Serb TV is threatened with : bombing unless it starts broadcasting NATO propaganda. Norman Tebbit was a : champion of free speech by comparison to this. : : This war is not about Kosovo. It is an out-of-control moral crusade, which : Blair went into without any clear war aims; a war launched on the premise : that Something Must Be Done to demonstrate how his ethical New Britain : bestrides the world as a force for Good. It is a crusade which has taken on : a dynamic of its own, jacking up the military stakes along with the : righteous rhetoric, as the KLA is transformed from a proscribed terrorist : organisation into an unofficial member of the NATO alliance, and more NATO : ground troops are sent
[CTRL] Meltdown
-Caveat Lector- From Associated Press Thursday April 8 6:53 PM ET Study: Major Ice Shelves Melting LONDON (AP) - Global warming has speeded the melting of two Antarctic ice shelves, which lost nearly 1,100 square miles of area in the last year, U.S. and British researchers say. Researchers at the University of Colorado and the British Atlantic Survey in Cambridge say regional warming has increased the annual melt season by up to three weeks over the past two decades, putting the Larsen B and Wilkins shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula in ``full retreat.'' Satellite photos show the Larsen B ice shelf has continued to crumble after an initial small retreat in the spring of 1998, the researchers said Wednesday. Since November, another 660 square miles of shelf area caved away. On the other side of the peninsula, the Wilkins ice shelf retreated nearly 420 square miles in early March 1998, said Ted Scambos, a research associate at the University of Colorado at Boulder's National Snow and Ice Data Center. ``The radar images showed a large area of completely shattered ice, indicating an ice front 35 kilometers (21 miles) back from its previous extent,'' said Scambos. He said thousands of small icebergs had appeared, suggesting ``that the shelves are essentially broken up in place and then flushed out by storms or currents afterward.'' David Vaughan, a researcher with British Antarctic Survey, said ice shelves in the area have been in retreat for 50 years but those losses have only included about 2,700 square miles. ``Within a few years, much of the Wilkins ice shelf will be gone,'' he said. But Vaughan said the meltdown has few implications for the environment. Birds and animals are not known to rely on the ice shelves and there would be no increase in sea levels ``because an ice shelf is floating anyway.'' Since the 1940s, British researchers have reported an increase in mean annual temperature in the Antarctic of 4.5 degrees Fahrenheit. Summer temperatures now approach, and sometimes exceed 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Ice shelves are floating plates of ice that are still attached to continents, which form when large glaciers flow toward the ocean in polar areas. Larsen B is about 2,700 square miles, the size of Delaware. Wilkins is nearly twice that size. AER The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. -Thomas Huxley + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Balkin' Australians
-Caveat Lector- It is interesting to see which governments will taken in refugees and which ones will not. I have to wonder if this is purely a financial question or are there concerns that bringing in these refugees would also mean importing the reported drug and terrorist activities that seem to surround the KLA (and remember that the KLA are basically ALL Kosovar Albanians of fighting age). Hilary -- From: Alamaine Ratliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Balkin' Australians Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 11:04 PM -Caveat Lector- From wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis Australian government twists and turns on Kosovar refugees--A case study in duplicity By Mike Head 9 April 1999 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 3rd party presidential candidates in 2000
-Caveat Lector- -- From: A.C. Szul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] 3rd party presidential candidates in 2000 Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:57 PM -Caveat Lector- Preparing a story on 3rd party presidential candidates in 2000. Might anyone suggest either contacts, [candidate] sites, or even candidate names? TIA. Regards, -A Check out John Hagelin. I would love to read something about him other than what I can find at his webpage. http://www.natural-law.org/ Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Greek daily: NATO has lost 88 men, 32 aircraft
-Caveat Lector- http://www.serbia-info.com/news/1999-04/08/10620.html Greek daily: NATO has lost 88 men, 32 aircraft April 08, 1999 Athens, April 7 (Tanjug)- The NATO generals in Brussels cannot hide their anger and deep concern with the losses the alliance has sustained in its war operations against Yugoslavia, the Greek daily Athinaiki writes Wednesday. The daily said it had obtained top secret information according to which 88 NATO troops had been reported missing. About half of them are Americans, 11 are German, 8 French, 7 British, and 18 are from other NATO member-states. The NATO believes its missing soldiers are not dead, the daily writes. According to the same sources, the NATO has so far also lost 32 aircraft in its operations against Yugoslavia. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this is true then there should be an uproar and MAJOR investigations as to why this isn't being reported on US TV. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo-Alternative View
-Caveat Lector- Please people... The US interests in Korovo are NOT humanitarian. THAT's the spin. We need to look at the heroin corridor and the reported oil fields off of Yugoslavia to begin to understand our real interests in the area. Hilary -- From: Gavin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Kosovo-Alternative View Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:28 PM -Caveat Lector- http://www.devvy.com/tonysnow1.html#SOFC Is Kosovo Really That Bloody? Tony Snow March 29, 1999 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Treason in America
-Caveat Lector- Lyn McCloskey wrote: -Caveat Lector- Kris is right... Larouche is no saint but he does have a lot of very good information from time to time. I'll bet even Clinton will tell the truth occasionally if it meets his immediate needs. Larouche's EIR magazine (Executive Intelligence Review) did an outstanding analysis on the ozone hole scare a few years ago. BTW I have an autographed copy of the Treason in America book... Chaitkin wrote, "Good luck for an honest career in journalism." :) - Lynda In a message dated 4/7/99 10:10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This appears to be a front for Larouche. Am I wrong? Chaitkan has written for Larouchian publications. But that doesn't invalidate his research and leads. I found Treason in America to be a very interesting book and well source, so one can follow-up and study for oneself. If its dis/mis, there is still much to learn. I agree. I have found much Larouche's stuff very interesting and informative. I just like to know that it is his. It is also interesting that I recognized the Larouche connection fairly quickly. They seem to have certain phrases or thought patterns which are very recognizable. I was once talking to a guy who was about the same age as Larouche. This was maybe twenty years ago. Anyway, we were talking about music and he mentioned that he liked the "crystalline structure" of Bach's music. That phrase seemed to be something I would hear from a LaRouche, so I asked him if he had ever heard of him. It turned out that he had been a fellow member of some Communist group in NY city with LaRouche in the 50s. He then went into a long harangue against him. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Treason in America
-Caveat Lector- I would like to add something here; years ago at Silver Springs MD I met this couple friends of my sister. They lived on a huge estate, and he was the Captain over Andrews AFBsome years later, my sisters and I wanted to go to Russiamy brother-in-law said no, but he then got a letter from the government "advising due to his position" us going over there. So, we were told that if we went, expect to be pulled off a train in Poland or somewhere, held for investigation, and then let go when our vacationtime ws up. Not want to cause trouble, we decided not to go. The Captain retired from Andrews, and he and his wife were going to go overseas, which they did; the only thing I know for sure, is they were taken off a train, and had to escape Europe through the underground. Now, the Captain is dead, and the lady is quite old now; she was a beaitufl woman; and guess what, now the last I heard some years back, my sister was concerned because she had given over $200,000 to Larouch and his gang. I know no more of this, or what happened, but I am sure by now if this lady has not died, she is probably on her way to an insane asylum She had a beautiful teakwood hand carved piana, that Jose Iturbi had once used; greenhouses, treesgorgeous home So when I hear the name of Larouch, I equate him to a Jerry Falwell, or one of those tv hucksters of religion, who know what this God Bu$in$$ is all about - the fleesing of their flocks of a lot of gold. Colleen Just a thought; no this story to be true, but do not with to use names other than to say the couple in question once hd a lot of connections, and were 100% American. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Great Alien Deception of the Conspirators
http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=689mmark=all http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=444mmark=all http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=417mmark=all http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=527mmark=all http://www.harvest-trust.org/majestyt.htm http://www.hourofthetime.com The two links above provided for informational value only. I do not support the author's political allegiances, his stand on not paying taxes or his stand of taking up arms.
Re: [CTRL] Fw: 19 US Marines reported dead!
-Caveat Lector- Reminds me when John Ashbrook, Congressman died...a lot of Senators at the graveyard where they buried an empty coffin. John Ashbrook used to have a hate printer in the basement of a funeral home; and this is where he was..his body was in this basement, while the Senators stood by an empty coffin being lowered into the ground. What did these coffins contan? You see, someone always knows where the bodies are buried.Danny Inouye who was on the House Committee on Watergate, along with a few others, watched this phoney reinactment of a burial for their fellow Congressman and were allegedly fooledor was it just a drama for the American people.. it ws then released that Ashbrook died in this basement sittng on a commode. What dignified people - what a legacy - but then Ashbrook was a true conservative. What happened to John Ashbrook; well, his brother had been murdered by a hit man some time before. There was a lot more than a body buried later; now where are the bodies of the American heros who remained loyal not to Clinton, but to their duty under orders as soldiers. It will take a lot to bury this story, if it be true.I heard a stupid woman say "Isn't that nice, they want to go to war but they don't want to hurt anybody". I said, yes, these humanitarians with whips are like that. Are we to see a lot of empty coffins? Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The NWO Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=689mmark=all http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=444mmark=all http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=417mmark=all http://www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrixdisc=527mmark=all http://www.harvest-trust.org/majestyt.htm http://www.hourofthetime.com The two links above provided for informational value only. I do not support the author's political allegiances, his stand on not paying taxes or his stand of taking up arms. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Respect in debate .
-Caveat Lector- Dear List, I don't write here very often but appreciate some of the articles forwarded by others. However, the recent comments made by some list members about God and Christianity have brought me to the decision that I must leave this list. I refer to the statement that " God knocked up a virgin and left someone else to bring up his Kid " as an illustration that God does not take responsibility for His creation. My comment to this is that you are ignorant of the truth about God and His heart for the broken and wounded. I found this incredibly offensive and hurtful - degrading something which is extremely precious to me and a faith without which I would certainly not be alive. As a survivor of Mkultra MC and extensive abuse resulting in my having DID, my Christian faith is something that gives me strength and support as well as being light in those oh so very dark places of my life. I ask whether anyone would make such derogatory comments about the doctrine of Jews or of Muslims ? I consider myself to be tolerant and accepting of the humanity and brokenness of others and have many friends who are of other races and some who are homosexual. Each person's freedom to choose is important for me because of the negative influences of my background. I would never thrust my faith at someone else, but present it as the truth I know. The dignity of humankind is also very important to me. I value discusssion and debate, but also hold that within debate, others with opposing opinions and points of view are still respected and heard. This is why I feel so upset about the comment I mentioned. yours sadly Pearl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OUR RAPIST-IN-CHIEF
-Caveat Lector- OUR RAPIST-IN-CHIEF Although Patricia Ireland of the National Organization for Women wouldn't condemn Clinton on the rape charges as strongly as she damned Clarence Thomas for allegedly talking about sex to Anita Hill, she did concede an interesting point: "A denial from Bill Clinton or anyone speaking on his behalf has historically been proven not to be worth the air that it takes to say them or the paper it takes to write them." WHITE HOUSE WHISPERS, By Elizabeth Howard, Washington Correspondent for the "Middle American News". Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral conduct and character increase as the importance of the position increases. --- President John Adams Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Respect in debate .
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/9/99 3:18:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My comment to this is that you are ignorant of the truth about God and His heart for the broken and wounded. I found this incredibly offensive and hurtful - degrading something which is extremely precious to me and a faith without which I would certainly not be alive. As a survivor of Mkultra MC and extensive abuse resulting in my having DID, my Christian faith is something that gives me strength and support as well as being light in those oh so very dark places of my life. I ask whether anyone would make such derogatory comments about the doctrine of Jews or of Muslims ? I consider myself to be tolerant and accepting of the humanity and brokenness of others and have many friends who are of other races and some who are homosexual. Each person's freedom to choose is important for me because of the negative influences of my background. I would never thrust my faith at someone else, but present it as the truth I know. The dignity of humankind is also very important to me. I value discusssion and debate, but also hold that within debate, others with opposing opinions and points of view are still respected and heard. This is why I feel so upset about the comment I mentioned. yours sadly Pearl Pearl I am hopeful that you will decide to stay here. But if you must leave, then do so. My comments may mean nothing to you or anyone else here but I offer them anyway. This list is about conspiracy and as such religion is something that must be discussed, and that includes Jewish and Muslim religion as well, and any number of other ones. The reason is that religion is all about control. Issues of faith and belief have no place here on this list and if you have a belief that God is good and that Jesus is your savior there is no one who should try to remove that from you. But foundations and methods are fair game and sometimes comments are made that can appear to be disrespectful. There is much about religion that is disrespectful of other beliefs, especially Christianity since it advocates itself as the ONE and ONLY pathway to salvation, therefore it holds that all other belief systems are wrong. Strong words that are disrespectful and mean to many I'm sure. Respect should be maintained for persons, but the ideas are always fair game. The bottom line for all religious issues involved with belief is that IF it is something that brings YOU peace, happiness, or serenity then it is VALID for YOU. Your beliefs are your right. Some can handle this others can't, that is why there is the disclaimer on every post. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hemp Golden Beer
-Caveat Lector- MORE HYPROCRISY Hemp Golden Beer, made from the same plant that produces marijuana, was served on Air Force One in February. Ingestion of any hemp product by a member of the Armed Forces is punishable by up to two years in prison and a dishonorable discharge, but the Commander-in-Chief(?), as we all know, doesn't have to follow any rules. Laughed one reporter on the plane, "The president tasted, but did not swallow," recalling Clinton's claim to have smoked marijuana, but never inhaled. WHITE HOUSE WHISPERS, By Elizabeth Howard, Washington Correspondent for the "Middle American News". (San Francisco protesters handed out "Neighborhood Alert" bulletins during a recent Clinton visit there, warning that a "sexual predator" was at large in the community.) Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WHAT FIRST AMENDMENT?
-Caveat Lector- WHAT FIRST AMENDMENT? Two Secret Service men visited Tom Adkins, editor of the Conservative Chronicle newspaper, recently, to inquire about something he wrote. In disparaging Clinton's embrace of a GOP plan for education reform. Adkins had suggested that the president wear a "flak jacket" when he next addresses a teachers' union group. If there was a real fear of violence, shouldn't these goons have leaned on the union, rather than the messenger? WHITE HOUSE WHISPERS, By Elizabeth Howard, Washington Correspondent for the "Middle American News". Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral conduct and character increase as the importance of the position increases. --- President John Adams "One bomb appeared to be seduced off the target at the final stages,'' NATO military spokesman Air Commodore David Wilby said. "ONLY IN AMERICA - can a veteran live in a cardboard box, while a draft-dodger lives in our White House". (I wonder why Klintoon mouth-pieces never use the word rape in describing the butchery of the Serbian thugs.) Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/9/99 12:33:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: we are responsible for our feelings in as much as our feelings are the basis by which we act. how would you like to have a president that hated (in his opinion) half-witted half-assed moderatators who had a lot of opinions. how would you like it if this president had a lot of support and people out there who were more than happy to act on his prejudice and hunt you down with dogs and have their way with you. the same can be said about adults with children, parents have to take responsibility for how their feelings will become manifest in their children; or do you believe that it is okay for people to raise their children to hate certain aspects of society. these examples are only tentitive but they show how there is consequence to our feelings and there is an ecology therein, wherein we must take responsibility for how we feel. apparently the law feels that way too as this is the basis by which they prosecuted manson. manson did not do the deeds himself but the acts were manifestations of how he felt. they say that he did but manson did not actually send his followers out to do his biding. prejudice cannot be objective; in court it can be the basis of a mistrial, if it can be proved. i feel the same as you that it is not the realm of the law to dictate how we should feel but there is an area there where we must assume a certain responsibilty for our own feelings and particular responsibility for how our feelings manifest in the world along with the consequences thereof. chris It boils down to personal responsibility. What is good for one is not good for another. Legislating the thoughts is what is bad. I don't think it is "good" to hate or to be prejudiced or to raise your kids that way BUT I think you have a right to do so, that I can't interfere with. You have a responsibility to live responsibly with your neighbors and within the laws of community, cause no harm to others or their property, take nothing that is not yours, etc. It is your responsibility to police your thoughts. When you act on them in a way that is in violation of those laws of community you should face the stiffest penalty possible. Of course you may want to just ignore this because I might be half-witted and/or half-assed, and might be merely full of opinions, and it might be a good idea to hunt me down and kill me for them, or at least hurt me a bit. 'Course you could just quietly hate me instead. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PRICEY POOCH
-Caveat Lector- == NEWSBRIEFS from "Middle American News" == PRICEY POOCH "The U.N. claims to be short of cash, but it is spending $150,000 a year for a single dog. Assistant Secretary General Toshiyuki Niwa says that "Jerry," the bomb-sniffing security pooch, is worth every penny -- of your tax dollars, that is. Toshiyuki told the U.N. budget committee that the trained black Labrador is needed to sniff all the suspicious packages and potential letter-bombs received by the aspiring global government from reluctant world citizens. The dog and his handler earn more than the many fancy undersecretaries general who get about $140,000 a year each." "If our culture is going to be conserved, we need to dethrone the dominant authorities that threaten it." Samuel Francis "The Melting Pot no longer works its magic. Hyphenated-Americanism has returned It is time for these divisions to end, for, unless we all go forward together, we're not going forward at all. We need a moratorium on immigration, and a national campaign of assimilation." Patrick J. Buchanan Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Selling Blood Specimans???
-Caveat Lector- That's a lot of DNA..how easy it would be to get someone's blood, and splatter it about, setting up for a murder Or like a Jack the Ripper, whom some thought to be a Doctor.during this period of time Dr. Gall, was experimenting with blood transfusions.first transion used sheep blood, and I always wondered wht happend to the guy who got that.what a blood line, if he survived. Now it would be interesting to know if any of the blood samples were contminted with AIDS, like our blood banksthis whole story does not make sense...blood samples from people with cancer, sold Surely this doctor could not have been an MD; he had to be another type of a doctor or got his degree in another country. What kind of a doctor, was he. Now, imagine someone is murdered by the mob; and how easy to sprinkle someone elses blood around, which would not be tested for cancer, of course. But there is a thing called Karposi's Sarcoma, that is related to AIDS; how easy to give this blood to an unsuspecting victim. Or even to cattle, cows, horses, people, children...who is this maniac, anyway. Why would anyone want contaminated bloodwho were the individuals buying same, were they CIA connected, or someone involved with murder inc. If this story is true, I would fine that guy more thanjust $30,000.00 and let him go. Was the blood used to pollute more blood banks, or for experiments; and if for experiments, any legitimate individual could buy blood without resorting to stolen blood. Wonder who bought the blood, is my concern. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Your beliefs
-Caveat Lector- What would happen if tomorrow, in a brilliant flash of lightning, a space craft landed in the middle of China, out exited a bloke dressed all in white and he went about the place healing the sick, giving sight to the blind and unlaming the lame. He then went to Israel and said he was the messiah. What would you do? go to Israel, and ask for a ride on his space ship. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Japanese Schools Struggle with Violence
-Caveat Lector- Japanese Schools Struggle with Violence Reuters 08-APR-99 TOKYO (Reuters) - Vampires in Japan's classrooms? Not quite. But a Tokyo primary school teacher was alarmed when one of her 10-year-old pupils, in a fit of anger, bit a classmate so hard his teeth broke through the skin and left a set of marks on his arm. Soon she had even more reason to worry. "He got so unstable he would take knives from the kitchen at home and wave them at his parents," said the teacher, who declined to give her name. The last straw came when the boy, in a rage, dashed out of the classroom to get a knife. Tragedy was averted when another teacher intercepted the boy -- but not everyone is so lucky. A year ago, Japan was shocked when a junior high school teacher was stabbed to death by a student she had told to return to class. In January, two teachers at a junior high school near Tokyo suffered facial fractures when they were attacked by two students enraged at being reprimanded. Even when violence is not a threat, the trend of classroom breakdown is growing. Students refuse to come to order, go in and out of the room and sometimes run away from class altogether. And the offenders are getting steadily younger. "I know a 7-year-old who threw a chair at the wall. And I can't count the times I've seen children going in and out of the classroom during classes, even the first-year students," the Tokyo primary school teacher said. ALL WORK, NO PLAY There were 2,406 violent incidents against teachers and students reported in high schools in 1996, up from 2,077 the previous year, the Education Ministry's latest figures show. The number of violent incidents in junior high schools soared to 8,169 from 5,945 a year earlier. Teachers and analysts acknowledge the situation is complicated but pin most of the blame firmly on Japan's traditional emphasis on getting into a good university. The cut-throat competition has led to the education system's well-known reliance on out-of-school studying at cram schools. The curriculum set for tests is hefty and the system emphasizes rote learning over thinking and experimenting. "Schools right now are only about memory -- memorize this, remember that, and then remember more," said educational expert Susumu Abe. "Even in science classes there's no real sense of using science to do experiments, to discover new things. So schools are just boring places where all you do is work hard." The intense emphasis on success at any cost results in an environment that gives children virtually no free time for friends or play, leaving them so exhausted that even on class excursions they complain that all they want to do is sleep. "Children are very tired and very stressed. They don't understand why and so sometimes they end up attacking people," the teacher said. "There are many reasons you can give for violence by students -- internal stress and a lack of self-control and tolerance," a ministry official said. Others said social changes such as the hyper-consumerism of Japan's bubble economy years of the late 1980s to early 1990s also had an impact, undermining traditional values. "During those years, the characters of adults definitely changed for the worse. There was at least one case in my school where a friendship between neighboring families that had lasted for generations fell apart in a property dispute over a few centimeters of land," the primary school teacher said. POLITICIANS A BAD EXAMPLE "And now, when you see politicians lying all the time and taking bribes, this too is probably influencing the children." Students are not the only ones suffering. Teachers find the pace, with 35 students the average class size, daunting both physically and mentally. In addition, a recent trend in primary schools to reduce costs by cutting physical education, art and music teachers means other teachers must assume these duties. The result is more teacher absenteeism. Education Ministry figures showed 1,609 took long-term leave for stress in 1997. The primary school teacher, who has taught for 25 years, said one of her colleagues was taking five months' vacation for high blood pressure and ulcers. "I, too, would like to quit as soon as possible," she said. An Education Ministry official said any solution to the problems in Japan's schools would depend on a survey of schoolroom management the ministry was conducting. Any policy changes would probably not take effect until April 2000. Nobuaki Ishii, an official at the Japan Teacher's Union, said the union wanted classes cut to a maximum of 30 students and was asking for a second teacher or teacher's aide to work in each classroom. Teachers were not entirely blameless either, he said. "Some teachers just try to keep pushing knowledge at their students. They need to take time to stand in their students' place." Copyright 1999 Reuters Limited.All rights reserved. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [CTRL] Marijuana Thought Crimes
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-09 09:41:31 EDT, you write: NORML Executive Director R. Keith Stroup, Esq. noted, "Under this measure, someone could legally transmit information about potentially violent activities like building bombs, but face criminal prosecution for posting messages about the documented medical uses of marijuana. This is an attempt to circumvent the first amendment guarantee of free speech by turning the transmission of certain factual information via the Internet into a 'thought crime.' Proponents of this type of legislation are the equivalent of modern day book- burners." I've heard from ritual abuse and mind control survivors that marijuana is the one big NO NO, according to the perps. Why? I suspect it provides a catalyst for gasp enlightenment.Can't have any of that. It also has many other planet-saving properties. We wouldn't want to do anything CONSTRUCTIVE, now, would we? The rest of the useful herbs are next. The people "need" to use their money to support the all-knowing pharmaceutical industry -- it's the Virtuous Capitalistic Way. Seems to me the path to destruction is accelerating considerably. Samm Samm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Satellite 'Big Brother' eyes parolees
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/9/99 9:41:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ComTrak monitoring system uses 24 Defense Department satellites orbiting 12,500 miles above the Earth to track 100 people in nine states. The people under surveillance range from sex offenders in Chicago to juvenile delinquents in New Jersey. The cost of monitoring each person is $12.50 per day. More use of the military, which is too big and shouldn't have as much as they do anyway, for the purpose of "civil" activities. A clear violation of the Posse Comitatus as well as the Constitution, but that should not be a surprise to anyone who knows how little those things are adhered to these days. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] UN commander looks at Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- Sent to me by a friend, enjoy. Teo1000 USI, New Delhi April 6, 1999 Lt Gen Satish Nambiar USI, New Delhi, April 6, 1999 THE FATAL FLAWS UNDERLYING NATO'S INTERVENTION IN YUGOSLAVIA By Lt Gen Satish Nambiar (Retd.) (First Force Commander and Head of Mission of the United Nations Forces deployed in the former Yugoslavia 03 Mar92 to 02 Mar 93. Former Deputy Chief of Staff, Indian Army. Currently, Director of the United Services Insitution of India.) My year long experience as the Force Commander and Head of Mission of the United Nations Forces deployed in the former Yugoslavia has given me an understanding of the fatal flaws of US/NATO policies in the troubled region. It was obvious to most people following events in the Balkans since the beginning of the decade, and particularly after the fighting that resulted in the emergence of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, that Kosovo was a 'powder keg' waiting to explode. The West appears to have learnt all the wrong lessons from the previous wars and applied it to Kosovo. (1) Portraying the Serbs as evil and everybody else as good was not only counterproductive but also dishonest. According to my experience all sides were guilty but only the Serbs would admit that they were no angels while the others would insist that they were. With 28, 000 forces under me and with constant contacts with UNHCR and the International Red Cross officials, we did not witness any genocide beyond killings and massacres on all sides that are typical of such conflict conditions. I believe none of my successors and their forces saw anything on the scale claimed by the media. (2) It was obvious to me that if Slovenians, Croatians and Bosniaks had the right to secede from Yugoslavia, then the Serbs of Croatia and Bosnia had an equal right to secede. The experience of partitions in Ireland and India has not be pleasant but in the Yugoslavia case, the state had already been taken apart anyway. It made little sense to me that if multiethnic Yugoslavia was not tenable that multiethnic Bosnia could be made tenable. The former internal boundaries of Yugoslavia which had no validity under international law should have been redrawn when it was taken apart by the West, just as it was in the case of Ireland in 1921 and Punjab and Bengal in India in 1947. Failure to acknowledge this has led to the problem of Kosovo as an integral part of Serbia. (3) It is ironic that the Dayton Agreement on Bosnia was not fundamentally different from the Lisbon Plan drawn up by Portuguese Foreign Minister Cuteliero and British representative Lord Carrington to which all three sides had agreed before any killings had taken place, or even the Vance-Owen Plan which Karadzic was willing to sign. One of the main problems was that there was an unwillingness on the part of the American administration to concede that Serbs had legitimate grievances and rights. I recall State Department official George Kenny turning up like all other American officials, spewing condemnations of the Serbs for aggression and genocide. I offered to give him an escort and to go see for himself that none of what he proclaimed was true. He accepted my offer and thereafter he made a radical turnaround.. Other Americans continued to see and hear what they wanted to see and hear from one side, while ignoring the other side. Such behaviour does not produce peace but more conflict. (4) I felt that Yugoslavia was a media-generated tragedy. The Western media sees international crises in black and white, sensationalizing incidents for public consumption. From what I can see now, all Serbs have been driven out of Croatia and the Muslim-Croat Federation, I believe almost 850,000 of them. And yet the focus is on 500,000 Albanians (at last count) who have been driven out of Kosovo. Western policies have led to an ethnically pure Greater Croatia, and an ethnically pure Muslim statelet in Bosnia. Therefore, why not an ethnically pure Serbia? Failure to address these double standards has led to the current one. As I watched the ugly tragedy unfold in the case of Kosovo while visiting the US in early to mid March 1999, I could see the same pattern emerging. In my experience with similar situations in India in such places as Kashmir, Punjab, Assam, Nagaland, and elsewhere, it is the essential strategy of those ethnic groups who wish to secede to provoke the state authorities. Killings of policemen is usually a standard operating procedure by terrorists since that usually invites overwhelming state retaliation, just as I am sure it does in the United States. I do not believe the Belgrade government had prior intention of driving out all Albanians from Kosovo. It may have decided to implement Washington's own "Krajina Plan" only if NATO bombed, or these expulsions could be spontaneous acts of revenge and retaliation by Serb forces in the field because of the bombing.
[CTRL] The Joshua Report #23 THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT HISTORY OF AMERICA!
-Caveat Lector- The Joshua Report #23 "THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT HISTORY OF AMERICA!" -- Michael the Outlawlady The Joshua Files http://members.spree.com/education/2302410/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, ...]
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/9/99 9:41:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Teo, I have to disagree and I sincerely hope that I am not alone in the thoughts I am about to post. Certainly those who commit heinous acts are to blame for their acts, but those who hold the same beliefs, though they may not act on them inevitably turn the other cheek and do nothing to stop the acts, and are therefore just as responsible. That is why the all-powerful and never named "THEY" say "If you're not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem." Not necessarily. Blanket statements are never an accurate assessment of the capabilities of people. Some will do as you say, and some will not. NO ONE but the people who commit the acts are responsible for the harm they cause. If I see someone getting beaten and choose to do nothing to stop that I a not guilty of beating the person. If, on the other hand my ACTIONS allow that person to come to harm then there is some responsibility there. Many more people who are not bigoted or racist would act in the very same manner, so mindset is not a good judging factor when making blanket judgments, even when the LIKELIHOOD of the action taking place is increased. No deed, no harm by you, no crime by you. Teo1000 You are failing to see the point here, and that point is this: By harboring the same ignorant beliefs as the person or persons who commit the acts, you are thereby providing an environment where the actions taken are considered acceptable. And if a person can prevent the acts but does not, they are responsible for complying in that act--an accomplice as it were. Your mindset on this issue (unfortunately shared by many) is part of the reason this world is in the sad state that it's in. Because throughout history many people have stood by and allowed others to perpretrate actions and deeds while doing nothing to prevent them--whether they felt the same as those committing the acts or not, they are responsible for the results of those acts. Hopefully one day you will understand and can be part of the solution. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The bombing of Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- Hello CTRL, I have question for any of you observing the bombing of Yugoslavia. Has anyone seen on any major media news service the full consequences of the bombing of Yugoslavia? I have only to date seen the structural damage to buildings and other types of structures being done. I have yet to see any dead bodies as in dead people in any of the stuff broadcast on T.V.. I have heard the newscatsters repeatally report that some numbers of people have been rumored to have been killed by Serbian officeals. I would bet even money they are not showing any of the dead bodies or dead people in the views of bombed out buildings and structures in order to propagandally sanitize the bombing going on over there. If the general public were allowed to view the entire consequences of the bombing over there I think they would view this very differently. There is a mass campaign to try and enlist new young recruits to all branches of the military. In my oppinion if they saw on T.V. the actual bodies of dead people as a direct result of war I seriously doubt they would enlist. I would like to hear anyones oppinion concern the topic of the medias lack of total reporting of the Bombing of Yugoslavia. They to date are only broadcasting half truths if that much. Have a great day :-) Best regards, Mark Allen Pitt :-) A.A.S. ;-) aka Scroll lock *.* BBS ICQ number; 4861371 email; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page; http://www.geocities.com/Area51/9357 Zero Mass Energy; The Study of Free Systems. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] H-Bombs and Earthquakes
-Caveat Lector- - Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:12:27 -0700 Subject: BOMBS and EARTHQUAKES Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There may have been an element of MINDCONTROL in the suppression of news concerning colossal "French" and Russian underground H-Bombs about 41 hours prior to the Tangshan earthquake in China which killed more than one million people, 28 July 1976. The suppression of data was carried one step further by the New York Times omitting any mention of the blasts from their NYTimes Microfilm edition which is in school libraries throughout the world. At the present time (early April 1999) searches of the internet only result in frustration if you seek information concerning the exact time of the Tangshan earthquake and the exact time of the tremendous Soviet and "French" thermonuclear underground detonations which immediately preceded the monster quake. Further frustration will be experienced if you search for the date of the first detonation of a French proto-type thermonuclear device. Reliable sources at the time have stated that the test first occurred in late 1974 -- less than two years before the French packed a deep hole with extra-strength thermonuclear capsules just prior to the Tangshan earthquake. These were detonated on the same day as monster Soviet underground thermonuclear detonations. For a detailed report on these matters you may contact the University of Uppsala Seismic Institute, Sweden, via FAX 46 18 50 11 10 . The University of Uppsala is dedicated to the pursuit of truth and will be delighted to inform you. Another odd note is struck in the conspicuous absence of any mention of the lunar perigee in astrological calculation programs. Needless to say, the timing and cyclic nature of the moon's perigee passages are essential to earthquake prediction. Currently, 5 April 1999, news reports are appearing in the US media statting that the American War Makes Peace operatives intend to transport surviving Kosovarian refugees, free of charge, to American concentration camps in Guam and Guantanamo, Cuba. Let's hope the Americans provide them with free toilet paper. At the same time, the American War Makes Peace operatives have announced that they shall soon be sending APACHE ATTACK helicopters to blast European beasts on the ground in Kosovo. This represents another form of MINDCONTROL -- a subtle and advanced form -- which recalls the Native American shamans who perished under an earlier American War Makes Peace campaign including those in what is now called Missouri where today huge B-2 Yankee Bombers are dispatched to bomb and kill the European invadersin Europe! Of course, this is much too subtle for American Peace Killers...they are the perfect suckers. Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Please Patronize PRJ's Advertisers: http://home.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm Many Pay Even If You Just Look and Don't Buy! Video Finder, Free catalogs, Health Products, Sweepstakes, Etc. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory
Re: [CTRL] THE ENEMY WITHIN!
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"Peter L. Sroufe" wrote:
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Members of the Progressive Caucus:
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa/dsa/dsa/dsa/dsa/dsa/pc/pc.members.html
Now you know who to remove from Congress so we can commence to Restore our
Constitutional Republic.
Also, let's make damn sure we don't add anymore of their kind.
("ONLY IN AMERICA - can a veteran live in a cardboard box, while a
draft-dodger lives in our White House".)
Shame on the Leftist Socialist Liberal DemocRats for burdening us with this
criminal.
Bard
You are a fool if you think Clinton is a Leftist Socialist.
Think Capitalist. Capitalist!
Get the picture?
How much Socialist money did he get? How much Capitalist money did he
get?
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Get the picture?
There is a war on. Save your paranoid crap for another time.
Joshua2
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Re: [CTRL] On Radio Show
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- Howdy all, Gonna be on radio, this Sunday night, 9-10 pm PDT on these stations with Michael Corbin. Om K http://www.paranetinfo.com/html/affiliates.html A HREF="http://www.paranetinfo.com/html/affiliates.html"affiliates/A - All affiliates are now carrying the show LIVE (9-10 PM PT). Alaska KINY - AM 800 - Juneau Arizona KXAM - AM 1310 - Scottsdale/Phoenix California KYOS - AM 1480 - Merced Colorado KRRF - AM 1280 - Denver (now enjoy two hours LIVE in Denver!) KNFO - FM 106.1 - Aspen; translators 95.3 - Glenwood Springs, 96.7, 105.5 - Vail Idaho KIDO - AM 630 - Boise Missouri KCMO - AM 710 - Kansas City (Hear us live on the web via RealAudio from KCMO!) Montana KMMS - AM 1450 - Bozeman Oregon KGAL - AM 1580 - Eugene/Corvallis - Break a leg. J2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: [OPF] Fwd: Waco Film on HBO
"If our culture is going to be conserved, we need to dethrone the dominant authorities that threaten it." Samuel Francis (I wonder why Klintoon mouth-pieces never use the word rape in describing the butchery of the Serbian thugs.) Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OPF] Fwd: Waco Film on HBO Very good movie.. "WACO:" ON HBO Please Pass the Word For Immediate Release COMPELLING OSCAR® NOMINEE WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT REVEALS THE UNTOLD STORY BEHIND THE GOVERNMENT SIEGE OF THE BRANCH DAVIDIAN COMPOUND WHEN IT DEBUTS APRIL 19 ON HBO. Film Airs On Sixth Anniversary Of Controversial Siege It started with a small botched raid by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) on Feb. 28, 1993. The target: The mount Carmel compound (located just outside of Waco, Texas) of the Branch Davidians, an offshoot of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church led by the charismatic David Koresh. The official reason; reports of a huge stockpile of automatic and semi-automatic weapons, some of them illegal, and possible criminal sexual practices within the sect. Four agents and six Branch Davidians died that day, sparking a 51-day siege, first by the ATF and later the FBI. It ended in an inferno that killed 76 sect members, including 29 children under age 14. The government called it mass suicide, but WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT suggests the truth might be otherwise when it debuts MONDAY, APRIL 19 (6:30-8:00 p.m. ET) - the sixth anniversary of the deadly fire - on HBO. Nominated for an Academy Award® in the Documentary Features category last year, WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT combines archival news footage, video and audio tapes, testimony from the televised House of Representatives investigation, and interviews with survivors. The Branch Davidians originated in California and lived near Waco for 60 years before coming to the attention of the ATF in the early '90s. The sect had acquired a huge cache of automatic and semiautomatic weapons, which it maintained were resold for profit to finance their compound. The government, however, publicly labeled the sect as a threat to the community and its own members, while emphasizing their unorthodox lifestyle and alleging sex crimes that intensified media coverage. The Feb. 28 raid backfired, and was followed in subsequent weeks by excruciated negotiations and attempts to root out the besieged with spotlights, embargoes and all-night blasting of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made for Walking." During one taped conversation heard in the documentary, a government negotiator promises, "Nobody's comin' in there...you got my word..." However, on April 19, the FBI went in with tanks and highly flammable tear gas. The tanks bored huge holes in the compound's wooden structures, creating a ventilation system likened to a pot-bellied stove that feeds a fire. One expert testified that the extreme concentration of tear gas could be lethal, especially to children. Attempting to escape the gas, sect members took refuge in a windowless concrete kitchen bunker that shortly became an oven. Heat-sensitive infrared cameras on reconnaissance aircraft show suspicious flashes which appear to be coming from the tanks moments before a series of fireballs ripped through the compound. Although FBI representatives testified before the House that its agents never fired a shot, some experts believe those flashes could have been gunfire that ignited the tear gas. The authorities pointed to gunshot wounds in some of the charred corpses as evidence of a suicide pact, although the audio tapes from FBI bugs that are heard in the documentary do not reveal any discussion of a suicide plan by sect members. Fire and rescue equipment were not permitted near the inferno for crucial minutes by FBI agents who cited safety concerns. Attorney General Janet Reno maintained that law enforcement agents acted responsibly, and the official House of Representatives investigation concluded that the fire was started deliberately by the Branch Davidians. WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT suggests this may not be the case - the truth may not be what the public was led to believe. In addition to an Oscar nomination, WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT was honored with the prestigious International Documentary Association's Distinguished Documentary Achievement Award in 1997. The executive producers of WACO: THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT are Dan Gifford and Amy Sommer Gifford; producers and writers, Dan Gifford, William Gazecki and Michael McNulty; director, William Gazecki. For HBO: executive producer Sheila Nevins; producer, Nancy Abraham. Academy
[CTRL] Fw: Skolnick Sees Hitler-Style Plan
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Citizens Committee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 8:30 AM Subject: Skolnick Sees "Hitler-Style Plan" SKOLNICK SEES "HITLER-STYLE PLAN" = (CNNS, 04/09/99) -- Sherman H. Skolnick, chairman of the public interest research group, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, reports that Serbs living in the U.S. (and even naturalized Serb-Americans) who dare to protest U.S. involvement in Yugoslavia are facing repression by the U.S. immigration authorities. (Contact info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office phone, 773-375-5741.) - The Hitler-Style Plan by Sherman H. Skolnick There are an estimated one hundred thousand to a quarter million Serbians living more or less quietly in the U.S. as alien residents. With the undeclared war of the U.S. against Serbia, is there a plan regarding such Serbians? Not mentioned in what some call the monopoly press are the presidential edicts to deal with so-called "emergencies". Blunt-talking sorts call them martial law provisions. (To mislead the public, CBS has started a series called "Martial Law".) There is a growing clamor by Serbs in the U.S. against the Clinton White House and Pentagon. In efforts to stop this, Clinton has ordered that Serbians with green cards, resident aliens, be deported as silently as possible. Apparently this original plan has been scrapped in favor of an alternative one, to send Serbians to certain detention camps, a replay of the Hitler-era. Plans to counter this, such as by federal court lawsuits might not even by publicized. Why? The monopoly press seems to be acting like under war-time orders. (For a sinister analogy, see the book "The Captive Press in the Third Reich" by Oron J. Hale.) The largest concentration of Serbs, both aliens and naturalized citizens, is in the Chicago-area. Too many federal judges, such as in the Windy City, are both tied to the banking system and are blackmailable because of ties to questionable if not criminal enterprises. So an appeal to the courts for a remedy may well be fruitless. One of the most secret detention camps is offshore Alaska, originally designed to house blacks because of racial riots. This writer had this confirmed during a radio talk show he did in Anchorage. Is that where the alien Serbs are to be sent? The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), as well as the FBI, have been told they could as well grab and detain Serbian-Americans, that is, citizens, who do not quickly supply their naturalization papers. Much of this has been confirmed by sources in the INS, and elsewhere. A cynical historian contends the calendar stating the year as 1999 is a fraud. It is, he loudly insists, actually 1938 and we are all in a time-warp. Stay tuned. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Please Patronize PRJ's Advertisers: http://home.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm Many Pay Even If You Just Look and Don't Buy! Video Finder, Free catalogs, Health Products, Sweepstakes, Etc. *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence
Re: [CTRL] Are Human primates?
-Caveat Lector- It will never be done. Man will not tolerate the competition. That's a [rather silly] argument that it _won't_ be done, not that it's impossible to do, which is what you claimed above. wel human can't even tolerate each other, look at racism america, and the serb conflict which albanian muslims. less they will tolerate another sentinent specie. of course if you belive this to untrue, have biologist and eugenic engineer create the Manpanzee. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Yugoslavia and survival of the fittest
-Caveat Lector- From: Don Keyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is survival of the fittest no longer happening. Why not? I notice that all the different goups, sects, religions, races, etc. that the world has become divided up into are fighting in Yugoslavia and seem not to be able to get along in the rest of the world including our own cities as well. Is survival of the fittest still going on. Is this idea not revelant anymore or just taboo to talk about because humans classify it as immoral. Could this not be studied scientifically in some way. Why would it not be revelant to the future. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
