[CTRL] U.S. Court of Appeals says veterans not guaranteed health care (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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U.S. Court of Appeals says veterans not guaranteed health care

8.53 p.m. ET (054 GMT) August 10, 1999
By Mark Pratt, Associated Press

   COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A federal appeals court has dismissed a
lawsuit by a veterans group that said the government broke its
promise of lifetime health care benefits for those with 20 years
of military service.

   The U.S. Court of Appeals dismissed the lawsuit Monday, saying
retirees do not have the absolute right to medical and dental
care, but they may be given the service subject to availability.

   A message left with the Justice Department seeking comment was
not returned.

   The 9,000-member Coalition of Retired Military Veterans can
ask the Court of Appeals to reconsider, appeal to he Supreme
Court or resubmit the lawsuit, said chairman Jim Gunn.

   "We're not asking for anything except what we earned,'' Gunn
said. "We're not freeloaders. We just want what we were told we
had when we signed up.''

   Gunn, a 68-year-old Korean War veteran who won a Purple Heart,
said numerous military and Coast Guard recruitment brochures
promised lifetime health care and dental benefits to personnel
who serve at least 20 years.

   He says the promises were inducements to sign up.

   In recent years, retirees have had their access to free care
at military hospitals trimmed by budget cuts and base closings.
Retirees are urged to join an HMO-like system with an annual
premium. They drop out of the program once they reach 65 and are
eligible for Medicare.

   In siding with the Justice Department, the appeals court said
military regulations never provided for unconditional lifetime
free medical care or authorized recruiters to promise care as an
inducement to joining or staying in the military.

   The court said the decision to provide medical care to
military retirees should be up to Congress and the resident, not
the courts.

   A district judge had dismissed the lawsuit in 1997.

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Re: [CTRL] . . . Ark of the Covenant

1999-08-11 Thread Eagle 1

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TenebrousT wrote:
Exactly what powers did the Ark supposedly have?

The power to defeat any enemy of God and Israel.

First of all,  it would be helpful that you look all of this up for
yourself,  preferably in the KJV,  but please choose your own version.  I
would highly recommend a Strong's Concordance to aid the KJV in
understanding the deeper meanings in Hebrew, Chaldeean and Aramaic writings.
But there are others out there that are just as good,  such as the Green's
Interlinear,  for example,  that you can look through at your local library
if you do not have access to one immediately.  It is your own understanding
and not my opinion that is paramount to your study of this information.

For a basic understanding of how the ark of the covenant comes into the
history of the Hebrews (notice I did not exclude the Jews i.e. 'Judah' as
the only chosen tribe,  but include all Hebrews,  of all tribes,  as the
whole of Israel,  as it is to this day)  as is well explained in Exodus,
where you will find the representations there are basically the building of
the article, and what it represents, such as Ex. 25:10-40,  26:33-34, 30:6.
By now,  by reading these and the chapters subsequent to these,  you should
have a good understanding that this is the place that God met with His
people in the tabernacle of the wilderness,  (see Numbers 7:89 for example)
and the ark of the covenant is actually a small replica or representation of
His throne placed amidst the people,  where the priests of the congregations
were allowed to speak with God, at the mercy seat,  under certain
pre-existing conditions.

See also Leviticus 16:1-2 which reveals that the sons of Aaron were killed
for approaching the ark in an unholy manner,  i.e. they brought in 'strange
fire'  which was against the duties of the priesthood,  see Leviticus.
10:1-2 for starters.  Your Bible should reference the rest of this part.
There was a discipline and order that provided for anyone approaching the
ark,  i.e. certain clothing was to be worn after being washed a certain way,
the skin was to be prepared a certain way, i.e. hygiene was very important;
no shoes, and the articles of the tabernacle were to be handled in a certain
manner,  as ordered by God, and much more.  A personal and deeper study of
this subject for your own understanding is recommended.

The powers of God are awesome!  The ark was indeed the throne of God among
the people. It could not be defeated,  and only certain people were allowed
to even handle it.  The Hebrews who possessed the ark,  as long as they
obeyed the rules of the Levitical priesthood duties,  were invincible
against any enemy of Israel.  For example,  read Joshua chapters 3, 4, 6,
and 8 which deal with defeating specific armies who came against Israel,
and of the bringing down the walls of Jericho;  defeating it wholly and
completely with merely the presence of the ark,  and by the instructions of
God to blow the ram's horns and the shouting of the people at a certain
time.  It shows regiment and discipline,  are important when dealing with
God.  He asks that things be done in an orderly fashion,  as He instructs.
Nothing more,  nothing less,  and His power is with those who choose to obey
Him.  Nothing has changed,  except that we do not have, nor do we need the
ark of the testimony,  i.e. the artifact itself,  nor do we need 'material
objects'  to aid our beliefs;  as that was for a specific time,  and for a
specific reason...  He then gave us His only begotten Son, so that all who
believed upon Him could have eternal life...   (John 3:15-17)and the
rest is His story...

However,  Paul does remind us that the reason that we had material,  and
physical objects in the tabernacle,  and things were done a certain way,
and regimented to a certain discipline is explained,  in Colossians 2:13-18
as an example,  or 'shadow' of things to come,  namely Christ.

For more about the ark of the covenant / testimony,
see Judges 20,  1-Samuel 3,  2-Samuel 6,  1-Kings 2,  1-Chronicles 6,
2-Chronicles 1,  Jeremiah 3,  Hebrews 9,  Revelation 11.

For a reference,
the ark of the covenant is also known as:
the ark of the testimony,
the ark of Adonai Jehovah
the ark of Jehovah
the ark of Elohim
the Holy ark
the ark of Thy strength

These all provide for excellent study references for the ark of the
covenant.
Rather than going into any detail here that may include my opinion,  it is
recommended that you study this article,  as well as all the articles of
the Temple of God,  for yourself,  so that you can make your own
decisions,  and beliefs of understanding your own way,  as my opinion,
or my belief is not relevant,  but rather I would that the Bible,  God's
Word,
speak for itself to you on this matter.

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[CTRL] Marcos and Billions in Gold

1999-08-11 Thread Das GOAT

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 "Since Marcos was ousted, Filipino officials have claimed he illegally
amassed billions of dollars during his 20 years in power.
 "Nowhere near that amount has been found, however.  The largest chunk
thus far, discovered in a Swiss bank account, was only $590 million."

 Oh, is THAT all?   ; )


Philippines Probe Marcos, Daughter

MANILA, Philippines (AP) - A Philippine Senate committee on Tuesday began
investigating allegations the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos and his daughter
stashed tons of gold and $13 billion in a secret Swiss bank account.

Francisco Chavez, a former chief government lawyer, claimed to have evidence
that an account in the Union Bank of Switzerland in the name of ``I.
Areneta'' contains $13.4 billion and belongs to Marcos' youngest daughter,
Irene Marcos-Araneta.

In June, Zurich district attorney Dieter Jann said Swiss authorities have
located the account referred to by Chavez, but it has no connection to the
Marcos family.

In a hearing by the Senate Blue Ribbon committee, Chavez said officials of a
Swiss bank and the Manila government were trying to hide the Marcos fortune.

Chavez said he also has proof that Marcos' widow, Imelda, has a separate
Swiss bank account covering 800,000 ounces of gold. Chavez also claimed that
1,241 tons of Marcos gold is stashed in an underground bunker at the Kloten
airport in Zurich.

Magdangal Elma, chairman of the Presidential Commission on Good Government,
which is trying to recover Marcos' alleged illegally-acquired wealth, denied
Chavez's allegations.

Chavez said he would present supporting evidence, along with foreign and
local witnesses, to the Senate committee.

He filed a complaint in Switzerland, accusing officials of suppressing new
evidence, the Swiss federal prosecutor's office said Tuesday. Chavez's formal
criminal complaint targets Jann, his former colleague Peter Cosandey, several
Swiss lawyers and employees of the bank.

Since Marcos was ousted in a popular revolt in 1986, succeeding governments
have claimed he illegally amassed billions of dollars during his 20 years in
power.

Nowhere near that amount has been found, however, with the largest chunk
being $590 million discovered in earlier-identified Swiss accounts. That
money has been transferred to an escrow account in a Philippine bank while
legal cases against the Marcoses continue.

Marcos and his wife have repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

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[CTRL] Elizardbeast's Better Half Grumbles About Wogs

1999-08-11 Thread Das GOAT

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 White man's burden ... Heavy weighs the head that carries his wife's
crown.


Philip Apologizes for Racial Gaffe

LONDON (AP) - Prince Philip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II, remarked Tuesday
during an official tour of a factory that an unsophisticated fuse box looked
``as if it was put in by an Indian.''

Racial equality groups expressed anger and, in an unusual move, Philip, the
Duke of Edinburgh, swiftly apologized.

``The Duke of Edinburgh regrets any offense which may have been caused 
With hindsight he accepts that what were intended as lighthearted comments
were inappropriate,'' a Buckingham Palace statement said.

Philip, 78, has a reputation for being abrasive as well as for quips that
cause offense.

Among the most notable was telling British students during a 1986 visit with
the queen to China: ``If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty
eyed.''

The duke's latest blunder came while touring a plant run by electronics firm
Racal-MESL near the Scottish capital, Edinburgh.

After inspecting rooms filled with high-tech equipment, Philip spotted the
fuse box with cables stretching up to the ceiling.

Noticing the duke's interest, Managing Director Terry Nisbet joked, ``That's
the national grid.'' The duke replied, ``It looks as though it was put in by
an Indian.''

The state-funded Commission for Racial Equality said the duke's comment was
``very unfortunate.''

``We look to the royal family to be positively promoting racial equality,''
the commission said.

Scottish lawmaker George Lyon called it ``yet another example of him going
about with his foot in his mouth.'' And the independence-seeking Scottish
National Party remarked that Philip ``needs to respect other races and
cultures far more the he does.''

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[CTRL] N.Korea Threatens Japan

1999-08-11 Thread Das GOAT

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N.Korea Warns Japan of Retaliation

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - Amid rising tensions, North Korea threatened Japan
today with ``merciless retaliation'' unless Tokyo atones for its colonial
rule of the Korean Peninsula.

The strong words came in a statement issued to mark the 54th anniversary of
Korea's liberation from Japan on Aug. 15, 1945.

``If Japan opts to open good-neighborly relations through liquidation of the
past, the (North) will welcome it with pleasure,'' said the statement,
carried by the country's foreign news outlet, the Korean Central News Agency.

``But if it repeats its crime-woven history and undertakes a reckless
provocation, the (North) will never miss the opportunity of meting out
merciless retaliation,'' the statement said.

During Japan's 1910-1945 colonial rule, Koreans were banned from using their
Korean names and language. Millions of Korean men were conscripted into the
Japanese army, and historians say up to 200,000 Korean women were forced into
sexual slavery by the Japanese military during World War II.

Relations between North Korea and Japan have plunged to a new low amid
reports that the North's communist government plans to test a long-range
missile despite warnings against it from the United States, South Korea and
Japan.

U.S. and Japanese officials say a North Korean missile launch will harm
stability in the region, triggering an arms race. But North Korea says it has
a ``sovereign right'' to test-fire missiles and accuses Washington and Tokyo
of plotting to invade the North.

The awkwardly translated English statement from North Korea said: ``If Japan
dare turn to showdown of strength in a bid to find a pretext to realize the
wild ambition for reinvasion, we will have no option but to take a
corresponding countermeasure.''

Japan normalized relations with South Korea in 1965 but has no official ties
with North Korea. The two Koreas were divided after World War II and fought
in the 1950-53 Korean War.

Several years of normalization talks between Tokyo and Pyongyang have made
little progress. A major sticking point arose when North Korea sent a rocket
sailing over Japan into the Pacific Ocean last August. The test demonstrated
that Japan is well within reach of North Korean missiles.

In retaliation, Japan has suspended food aid. It has threatened to impose
further economic and other sanctions if North Korea fires another missile.

Japan today said it was prepared to improve ties with Pyongyang if the North
was ready to abandon its nuclear weapons and missile programs and resolve
other pending issues between the two countries.

``We believe it is important to respond (to North Korea) by balancing
dialogue,'' said Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiromu Nonaka, the main government
spokesman.

Meanwhile, the United States and South Korea today announced plans to conduct
a large-scale joint military exercise next week. The annual exercise,
code-named Ulji Focus Lens, will run for 12 days starting Monday, with 14,000
U.S. soldiers and 56,000 South Korean troops participating, a joint statement
said.

The United States and South Korea hold several joint exercises each year.
North Korea routinely protests such exercises, calling them preparations for
war against it.

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[CTRL] Job Rage

1999-08-11 Thread Das GOAT

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One in Four Employees Angry at Work

By EVELYNE GIRARDET
.c The Associated Press

CHICAGO (AP) - As she headed home from her job as an administrative assistant
at a bank, the stress and anger lingering from Ariella Winograd's workday
apparently showed.

``Did my boss call you? Can you read my face?'' Ms. Winograd said when asked
Monday about anger in the workplace. ``I definitely have office rage.''

She's not alone.

Nearly 25 percent of respondents to a 1996 Gallup nationwide telephone survey
of 1,000 adults age 18 or older who were employed full- or part-time
indicated that they were ``generally at least somewhat angry at work,''
according to a new study.

Authors of the study say the statistic may help explain recent outbursts of
workplace violence.

``In an environment where you think people are satisfied with their jobs,
there is a sort of undercurrent of anger and resentment aimed at the
workplace that could potentially lead to the kinds of explosions of rage we
have seen,'' said Donald Gibson, a professor at the Yale University School of
Management and a co-author the study.

The study, ``The Experience of Anger at Work: Lessons from the Chronically
Angry,'' is scheduled to be presented Wednesday at the annual meeting of the
Academy of Management in Chicago. It was sponsored by Marlin Co., a
Connecticut-based management consulting firm.

Authorities say workplace rage was a factor in the July 29 shooting spree in
which Mark O. Barton killed nine people and injured 12 others in two Atlanta
office buildings where he worked as a day trader. A week later, Alan Eugene
Miller killed three people at two Pelham, Ala., companies where he had
worked, prosecutors say.

Despite the headlines, homicides at work are declining. There were 856
work-related murders in 1997, a 7 percent drop from 1996 that mirrors the
fall in violent crime nationwide during this economic boom, according to the
Bureau of Labor Statistics.

According to the study, the most common cause of workplace anger - cited by
11 percent of those questioned - was the actions of supervisors or managers.

Nine percent said co-workers, others not being productive and tight deadlines
or a heavy workload were to blame. Others cited dealing with the public and
being treated badly as reasons for their anger.

``There has been a lot of downsizing. A lot of companies are leaner and
meaner, and many of the workers who are left feel overworked and
underappreciated,'' Gibson said.

Ms. Winograd said her workplace peeves include condescending superiors and
managers who do much of their business on the golf course, leaving the real
work to assistants.

Ed Gordon, a computer consultant from Waukegan, said that to a certain
degree, he can relate to the anger that led to acts of workplace violence.

``You wonder, `What would it take?' and then you think, `Jeez, could I do
anything like that?''' he said.

Gibson said most of the effects of workplace anger are subtle. They include a
hostile work environment and the tendency to do the minimum amount of work to
get by, resulting in a drop in productivity.

Suppressed workplace anger has also been linked to health complaints, such as
anxiety, depression, high blood pressure and heart disease.

Gibson said managers need to communicate more with their workers in order to
nip anger in the bud before it affects productivity or worse.

``They need to keep exploring, `Am I as a manager taking actions that are
causing anger?' and `How is that affecting my company?''' he said.

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Re: [CTRL] REGULATION BY THE UNELECTED

1999-08-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Some members of Congress are appalled by the reams of regulations
 issued each year by swarms of unelected federal bureaucrats.
 Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Sam Brownback (R.-Kan.) are
 two of those, and in June they reintroduced their Congressional
 Responsibility Act -- which would require Congress to approve
 major agency rules and regulations before they become binding. 

This is very interesting.  Hopefully the Congressional Responsibility Act
will include efforts to mitigate the influence of the many, many "think
tanks" whose unwanted kibbitzing in the Halls of Congress have resulted in
legislation that benefits only a small portion of our society (often to the
detriment of the rest).  A little more acceptance of responsibility on the
part of Congress would be more than welcome.  Their constant reliance on the
"unintended consequences" factor has left many citizens wondering whether
"elected" officials have any interest in the public good at all.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] New claim over Ark of the Covenant

1999-08-11 Thread Eagle 1


Jamie wrote:I think we'll 
just agree to disagree here... This is pointless.Yet comes back and 
argues:Wyatt is dead, he made the discovery of the Ark in 1982 
...He divulged the information of the Ark of the Covenant 2 days before 
hisdeath... Obviously not seeking power nor wealth. 
Jamie,Thanks for the obituary information, as 
personally, I don't followanything about the man, but have heard 
his name mentioned on occasion inreference to the ark of the 
covenant... and websites such as:http://www.do-you-love-me.org/wsomers/arkcov.htmlhttp://www.anchorstone.com/wyatt/I 
just find it amazing that only Ron Wyatt should be the one in history 
todiscover not only the true resting place of the ark of the covenant, 
but isalso the only one man alive or dead, privy with the exception of 
those whomhe disclosed information to before he died regarding: the 
true story ofGenesis, i.e. the great flood of Noah, Noah's Ark, 
Sodom and Gomorrah,the Red Sea Crossing, i.e. the chariot wheel, 
how the pyramids were reallybuilt, and is the only one who found the 
'real' Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia.H... that's a whale of a lot of 
accolades and historical archaeology tohave been found by one man, in 
one life time, and interesting that no oneelse but his wife and other 
Wyatt followers seem to agree with him about...And don't get me 
wrong, I'm sure that whatever he's accomplished in therealm of 
archaeology is probably very contributing and astute to theprofession and 
his cause.However, Wyatt's website annotation, written by 
Bill Fry states:"Unlike Ron's other discoveries (Noah's Ark, Sodom 
 Gomorrah et al) theArk of the Covenant has always suffered from a lack 
of hard of evidence."http://www.anchorstone.com/wyatt/aoc_update02.html(which 
by the way, this website is more a defensive argument, 
attemptingto save face, and defend Mr. Wyatt's honor, rather than an 
update asadvertised on the website to be. But then that's okay, 
too. We all mustdefend our work and uphold truth as we know it). 
Some have a little more,some have a little less. It all boils down to 
the fact that God will giveto whom what He wills, and also take in the 
same respect, and give toanother.But really, I know no more 
about Wyatt than that on the websites about him.As previously stated, 
I do not believe that the ark of the covenant ispresent upon the face of the 
earth today, but rather is wherever the Templeof God is, i.e. 
heaven, as stated in Revelation 11:19.If Wyatt indeed discovered 
the ark, then where is it? Show me. I'm ascurious as the 
next person... but I've yet to hear anything documentable orsolid 
regarding this so called discovery. So, why then, are there 
peoplestill looking for it if his 'discovery' was so profound?No 
power and wealth...??? Then why does his beneficiaries charge 
forinformation such as CD's, books and videos regarding all these 
wonderfuldiscoveries and solved mysteries? Seems rather, 
someone is making a buckor two off of his work...https://www4.secure-website.net/~sayhello/wyatt/formail.htmlPerhaps 
a wealth of power greater than us all put together put the squash onthis 
ludicrous idea that the ark of the covenant is somewhere to be found inthe 
earth? And that is why Mr. Wyatt is no longer with us to finish 
hisclaim to the ark. But then that's just a thought, and could 
be absolutelya fact or absolute falsity. However, it is no more 
provable than Wyatt'stheory of where the ark is, and how it 
suspiciously came to be in somecrack in Jerusalem, but has of yet to 
be proved or produced.Wyatt's theory is fascinating, but his 
theory doesn't match up with whatthe Bible says about the ark of the 
covenant. And it seems that I am notalone in this...Seehttp://www.biblemysteries.com/library/lostarks/and 
http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/ark/for 
a logical and comprehensive view of this idea about the ark of 
thecovenant.Truly, I believe, God took the ark. It 
will not be found anymore, nor isthere any need for it as stated 
in Jeremiah 3:16. For the ark was andstill is symbolic of the dwelling 
place of God, and a place from which Hespoke to the people from the 
mercy seat in the tabernacle in the wildernessand times 
afterward.But God replaced the need for material objects when He sent 
His son asexpiatiator of sins. The need for an article such as the ark 
of thecovenant was no longer necessary when God sent Immanuel - See Isaiah 
7:14(also spelled Emmanuel ) meaning "God with us", see 
Matthew 1:23,who fulfilled the law as well as all duties and perfection of 
the Temple ofGod.He now dwells in the hearts of the souls who so choose 
to believe,and there is where the ark is, that place where we each 
speak to God fromtheheart of the soul.No longer is there a need 
for an ark to provide our physical eyeswith an object of faith.I 
rest my case.eagle 1- Original Message -From: 
Stopforth, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
'Eagle 1 ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 
August 10, 1999 7:59 PMSubject: RE: 

Re: [CTRL] Spinning Conveniently

1999-08-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 08/10/1999 2:04:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What a difference eight years make. On November 22, 1990, the New
  York Times published an article headlined, "Chinese Atom-Arms
  Spying in U.S. Reported." It began, "Chinese intelligence agents
  succeeded in stealing nuclear-weapons secrets from the
  government's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in the 1980s,
  and the Federal Bureau of Investigation later conducted a long
  espionage inquiry into the theft, American intelligence experts
  said today." 

Thanks for this posting.   It's a real clarification.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Update Phoenix Evacuation

1999-08-11 Thread Nicky Molloy

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This site has updates on the Phoenix Evacuation.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Fwd WW: White Vehicles belong to USA's--INS, not the UN as Internet Folklore sai

1999-08-11 Thread Tenorlove

I got this in my email; it's another perspective on the white vehicles.

Tenorlove

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White Vehicles belong to USA's--INS, not the UN.

An "Internet Folklore" rumor rampage claimed the supposed white vehicles 
belonged to the UN.  

The white vehicles belong to the INS, and will be used to police the southern 
boarder, says Chuck Harder, who adds that he verified his information with a 
reliable, high inside source in government.

MONDAY AUGUST 09, 1999 

An invasion of U.S. by U.N. -- not! 
Internet folklore story is full of globaloney 


By David M. Bresnahan
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com 

Rumors of thousands of United Nations vehicles being outfitted behind a
remote federal prison in Texas have been spread across talk radio and
Internet web sites -- all heavy on conjecture and short on facts. 
The truth was easily verified by WorldNetDaily, and the results show how
easily a wild story can use a small portion of truth to sound genuine.
Americans who have long ago stopped trusting their government, and talk
show hosts who like wild stories, were quick to accept this story without
verifying the facts. 
The tale of a U.N. force being prepared as an international police force
apparently began with a genuine effort by amateur investigators to expose
what they thought was a subversive plot. 
The operator of a Texas-based Internet hosting service began publishing
news stories on his website. That service then expanded to conducting local
investigations into local Texas rumors. 
David Palmquist, operator of AllTexas.net, agrees that he is untrained as a
journalist, but he is trying to fill a gap that he says the local news
media has left unfilled. He published a story that told of 1,000 white
vehicles being stockpiled at a high-security prison in Bastrop, Texas. 
"All the vehicles are U.N. white," said Palmquist in his article. 
"Rumors have been floating in the area for months about a fleet of
suspicious vehicles being outfitted with prisoner cages, shackles and
insignia such as 'U.S. Police Force' and the U.N. roundel. None of the
vehicles observed in the storage area appeared to have any markings at all
other than window stickers with equipment data," he stated in the article. 
Palmquist said an unnamed prison official told him that the vehicles were
being outfitted with prisoner cages and shackles, and that the vehicles
were for the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. 
He disputed those claims in his article stating that, "vehicles assigned to
the INS are predominantly painted green and those assigned to the Border
Patrol are usually the same. The suitability of a high-visibility color
such as white for either agency is in question. Large, white vehicles can
be seen approaching from miles away." 
WorldNetDaily received many concerned requests from readers to look into
the story. Palmquist claimed he was a frequent guest on talk shows from
coast to coast as a result of his article. He admitted to going onto the
prison property without proper clearance to take pictures from the ground,
and he also flew over in a plane to take aerial photographs. 
The pictures did show hundreds of white vehicles neatly parked on the
prison property. 
One call to the federal prison at Bastrop brought many answers, and a
second call to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service in
Washington, D.C. found the remaining answers. 
"That story could be nothing further from the truth," said Tim Stewart,
executive assistant at the Bastrop prison, which he said is a minimum
security facility, not a maximum security prison as claimed in the article.

"What we're doing here is our Unicore factory, our federal prison
industries has undergone a mission change. We previously made ballistic
helmets and vests for the military. We are no longer doing that. Our
mission change now is that we are taking brand new vehicles that have been
sold to the INS and we're retrofitting those vehicles so they can put them
on the line. Basically just fixing them up for their use. Putting in
radios, radio harnesses, and things of that nature. Stripping them and
decaling them for the INS," explained Stewart. 
He said there are between 900 and 1,000 white Dodge vans, Tahoe, Suburbans
and Durangos lined up and waiting to be prepared for service. Inmates are
presently preparing the factory for the new work, so the vehicles have been
accumulating during the delay. 
None of the vehicles are for use by the U.N. and none of them presently
have any marking on them. Soon they will all receive an INS seal and some
lines. White is a common color used by INS, 

[CTRL] Fwd: Fwd WW: RenoWatch/Reno Urges More Authority for Judges because they're Magical

1999-08-11 Thread Tenorlove



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#1
Tuesday August 10 11:05 AM ET 

Reno Urges More Resources For Judges

By Gail Appleson, Law Correspondent

ATLANTA (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno said Tuesday there is 
``something magic'' about judges and they should have greater resources so 
they can help stop repeat offenses and restore public confidence in the 
criminal justice system.

Speaking at the American Bar Association's annual meeting, Reno said the 
success of specialized drug courts shows there are ways in which judges can 
be given broader authority to help make sure offenders get training and jobs 
so they do not repeat their crimes.

``You say somebody else can do that. Ladies and gentlemen, there's something 
magic about a judge...that black robe can make a difference,'' Reno said.

She said that from the late 1970s, the criminal justice system found itself 
in the ``front line'' as crime rose and drugs increased across America. 
``Crack destroyed communities and crack dealers put guns in the hands of 
kids.''

Reno said children were unsupervised more often than any other time in 
history and the mentally ill were turned out of institutions and forced onto 
to the streets.

``They have faced human problems of dimensions barely known in history. They 
faced them after institutions, family, the school, the neighborhood have 
failed. The criminal justice system is at the end of the line. There is no 
other place to go.''

However, she said the response to the onslaught on the criminal justice 
system had been to limit judges' authority to deal with problems. But at the 
same time there has been no reduction in caseloads. Federal sentencing 
guidelines have raised prison terms but there are no additional resources to 
deal with inmates and their return to communities.

``The offender finishes a sentence, returns to the neighborhood, has the same 
problem with no resources to solve it,'' Reno said. ``They can't get a job, 
they haven't finished school, they do it again and the people don't think the 
criminal justice system works.''

``Let's give our courts, our judges what it takes to do justice, what it 
takes to solve the human problems,'' she said.

Reno suggested that specialized courts, such as those dealing with particular 
problems like drugs, domestic violence, juvenile crime and mental illness, 
would help improve the system. She said there might also be the creation of 
``reentry'' courts in which judges might help oversee a defendant's return to 
the community.

``Let's give our judges tools to do the job. A case load can be managed, 
investigators can find out the correct situation as to what is happening at 
home and make recommendations to courts for treatment and follow-up,'' she 
said.

``If we use the model of drug courts and other types, if we manage our case 
load, if we give judges authority, we can make a difference.'' 

#2 
Tuesday August 10, 1:25 pm Eastern Time

Company Press Release

SOURCE: U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Commerce

Bliley Blasts Reno, Administration for Failure To Address Bio-Terrorism 
Threats

WASHINGTON, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- The Administration's inaction on the 
threat of bio-terrorism is ``as inexplicable as it is unacceptable,'' 
according to a letter sent yesterday by Commerce Chairman Tom Bliley (R-VA).

Bliley's letter to Attorney General Janet Reno notes the Justice Department's 
failure to provide Congress with specific views on the adequacy of federal 
laws relating to dangerous biological agents such as anthrax, the ebola 
virus, and the plague. The letter calls on the Justice Department to provide 
a detailed response to a number of questions by August 16, 1999. A copy of 
the letter is attached.

``As I noted in my very first letter to you, more than four months ago, you 
pledged to Congress back in April of 1998 that the Department would... 
'respond very quickly' with specific suggestions as to how the current 
regulatory scheme for transfers of biological agents could be strengthened... 
Nearly 16 months later, your Department has not proposed to Congress a single 
specific legislative or regulatory change in these areas, which is as 
inexplicable as it is unacceptable,'' Bliley wrote.

``I am concerned that we will have to wait until the actual new millennium 
(2001), and a new Administration, before we see some concrete action on this 
front,'' Bliley continued. ``The threat to our national security from the 
current system of unregulated access to such deadly agents as anthrax, the 
ebola virus, and the plague should not be 

[CTRL] Making the World Safe for American Business, One Execution at a Time

1999-08-11 Thread Lucio Benedetto

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Archives Unearthed in Paraguay Expose U.S. Allies' Abuses
August 11, 1999
http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/americas/081199paraguay-archives.html

By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO

SUNCION, Paraguay -- When Martín Almada asked a judge for records of his
arrest under the dictatorship of Gen. Alfredo Stroessner, he hoped merely to
learn more about his own private tragedy: nearly four years of captivity,
during which the police telephoned his wife so she would hear his screams
under torture.

Instead, the one-time schoolteacher unearthed a mountain of records
detailing repression among United States-backed military regimes throughout
South America during the cold war. From floor to ceiling, five tons of
reports and photos detailed the arrest, interrogation and disappearance of
thousands of political prisoners during General Stroessner's 35-year
dictatorship.

The documents trace the creation and work of Operation Condor, a secret plan
among security forces in six countries to crush left-wing political dissent.

Paraguayans quickly named the files the "archives of terror." Though
discovered six years ago, the files have gained new prominence throughout
Latin America with the arrest of Chile's former dictator, Gen. Augusto
Pinochet, in London last October. To this day, they remain the only
extensive collection of public records of a project by the region's military
rulers that succeeded in exterminating thousands of political opponents.

The files have given a kind of vindication to survivors, their families and
the families of those dead and missing by delivering concrete proof of a
darkly secretive era.

The archives have also provided fodder for the developing case against
General Pinochet, the only one of the region's dictators to face the
prospect of trial. General Stroessner remains a fugitive from justice living
in Brazil.

Baltazar Garzón, the Spanish magistrate seeking the extradition of General
Pinochet from England, has collected more than 1,500 pages of evidence from
the archives. Last December, he requested records on Hugo Banzer, the
current President of Brazil, who ran the military regime there from 1971 to
1978, and on General Stroessner.

"This documentation might exist in other countries as well, but it's hidden,
while in Paraguay they didn't manage to hide it all," Juan Garcés, the
lawyer who brought suit against General Pinochet, said in a telephone
interview from Madrid.

"It proves that there was an organization with a structure and discipline
that didn't only exchange information but committed criminal acts," he said.

Intelligence sharing between Washington's allies in South America did not
begin with Operation Condor, but the plan formalized and deepened
cooperation among police and military forces that had taken power in six
countries: Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay and Bolivia.

After Gen. Manuel Contreras of Chile invited security chiefs to create "the
basis of an excellent coordination and improved action" at a meeting in
November 1975, police forces from member countries began to operate in each
others' jurisdictions. Their new ties allowed security officials to take
part in joint interrogations, to pursue people across borders and to order
surveillance on citizens who sought asylum in other nations.

Trained during the cold war at the School of the Americas in Panama, the
officials viewed their enemy as Communism, backed by Moscow in a subversive
war without frontiers. To prevail, governments too would have to work across
borders, they said.

The security threats were not entirely imagined. Rebels like the Montoneros
in Argentina did aim to destabilize some governments. But in other countries
there were no rebel movements, and military regimes used the club of
anti-Communism to snuff out any calls for democracy or labor rights.

In Chile, General Pinochet had overthrown the democratically elected
President, Salvador Allende Gossens, a Socialist, and hunted down his
Cabinet officials and supporters. Among them was Orlando Letelier, who died
when his car exploded on a street in Washington, also killing his American
aide, Ronni Moffitt.

According to a 1979 Senate Foreign Relations report, which remains
classified, the killings of Gen. Carlos Prats of Chile and Gen. Juan José
Torres of Bolivia in Argentina were also reportedly the work of Operation
Condor, as was the attempted assassination of a Chilean Senator, Bernardo
Leighton, in Italy.

In Paraguay, the targets of General Stroessner included members of a rival
faction in the governing Colorado Party, doctors who refused to cover up
torture and Almada, who criticized the educational system in his
dissertation.

"They said I was an intellectual terrorist," Almada said. He blames the
Paraguayan police for the death of his 33-year-old wife, who suffered a
heart attack and died after hearing his screams over the telephone.

Two of the thousands of cases contained in the archives are those of Gladys
Sannemann 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Granada Hills shooting (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread Lloyd Miller

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I have long suspected since the Patty Hearst fiasco that there is a top
secret National Security Dictatorship mind control group that is gradually
brainwashing America for total Statism via concocted "national dramas" by
using mind controlled zombies to act irrationally.  Obviously, we cannot
have a free society when there are so many lone nuts out there.
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Subject: Re:Fw: Granada Hills shooting (fwd)


Lloyd Miller wrote:

 3) the gunman was brainwashed by the "hidden government" to strike at
 this particular day care center, to piss off the Jews, who will then
 join
 in the national chorus to make guns illegal, and strip us of our right
 to
 bear arms.

 Take your pick...

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[CTRL] Fw: L.A. Shooting: the cover-up begins !!!

1999-08-11 Thread Lloyd Miller

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Subject: L.A. Shooting: the cover-up begins !!!


What's wrong with this picture ? :


Gunman Shoots Five At L.A. Jewish Center And Flees
Updated 12:07 AM ET August 11, 1999
By Dan Whitcomb

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A man opened fire with a submachine gun in a
Jewish community center Tuesday and hit five people, severely wounding a
5-year-old boy before escaping and evading hundreds of police aided by
dogs and helicopters...Authorities, who originally described the shooter
as
tall, young and wearing a black shirt, later changed the description to say
the
man was bald, about 40, wearing green clothing.


  ==

Five shot at Jewish community centerUpdated 11:28 PM ET August 10, 1999
By TERRI VERMEULEN

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 11 (UPI) Los Angeles police say a bald fortyish white
man with a large mustache walked into the lobby of a Jewish community
center in suburban Los Angeles and opened up with an Uzi-type automatic
assault rifle, wounding three little boys, a teenage girl and an elderly
employee before vanishing.In the early confusion of the shootings, the
assailant was described as a teenager, but Police Chief Bernard Parks, who
arrived at the scene with Mayor Richard Riordan, said the early description
was
incorrect.

===

 An *eyewitness* to the shooting described the assailant as a TEENAGER
wearing a BLACK shirt.
Why did the description of the gunman suddenly change several hours later ?
"Confusion" or cover-up?
Also, why are the FBI and BATF involved ? There are shootings and murders in
Los Angeles all the
time (sometimes involving children), but the FBI/ATF usually don't show much
interest. There are a
lot of very *odd* things about this caseI smell a rat!!!

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[CTRL] What's the connection?

1999-08-11 Thread Ric Carter

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Two news items:

 SUSPECT IDENTIFIED IN CALIFORNIA SHOOTINGS, HUNT INTENSIFIES. A massive
manhunt was underway early Wednesday for a 37-year-old white male suspected
of opening fire in a Jewish community and daycare center in Granada Hills,
wounding three young children, a teenager and an adult. Los Angeles Police
Department Cmdr. David Kalish identified Buford O'Neal Furrow, also known as
Buford O. Furrow Jr., as the prime suspect in the shooting and a carjacking
shortly afterward. 'Armed and dangerous'
http://cnn.com/US/9908/11/california.shooting.01/index.html

 BUS, 16 CARS PILE UP IN LOS ANGELES GAS STATION CRASH. A bus and at least
16 cars were involved in an accident at a Texaco gas station near Los
Angeles International Airport on Tuesday. At least 16 people were injured,
six to eight of them seriously, according to Jim Wells, Los Angeles city
fire spokesman. Nine people were transported to local hospitals; seven were
treated on the scene and released. The police department is investigating
the cause of the crash. "Too many cars" 
http://cnn.com/US/9908/10/bus.car.crash/index.html

Coincidence?

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1

1999-08-11 Thread ric carter

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: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
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# LAST 20TH CENTURY ECLIPSE SWEEPS INTO CLOUDS. Despite downcast weather
  reports and intermittent rain, some viewers in Britain were able to at
  get at least a partial view of the millennium's last full solar eclipse.
  http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9908/11/eclipse.02/index.html

# Dark side of the Moon. (BBC) The millennium's final total eclipse of the
  Sun triggers prayers, cheers and tears from millions of amazed spectators
  across Europe and Asia. Mad cows screamed and drunkards wept openly.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_417000/417192.stm

: Did the eclipse transform your life? Did your world stop and restart? Did
demons/aliens/spies take control of your brain? Were wizards born? How many?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Y2K - Warner Bros Kills Big 'Y2K' Film Project - Gov't Pressure? Hollywood
  has killed the film Y2K, which should cause citizens to question how much
  they are permitted to know about the true state of the Year 2000 computer
  glitch. Warner Brothers canceled plans for its Y2K disaster flick partly
  because, as its producer said, there was a lack of faith in the ability of
  audiences to discern the difference between fictional and real-world
  computer disruptions. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/y2kbroskills.htm

: Can you distinguish between cinema  reality? Is there a difference? Has
your gov't suppressed the awful truth about the Y2K bug? Are you fearful?
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# London Insurance Firms Look At 5-5-2000. In case the upcoming Millennial
  Y2K disaster wounldn't be bad enough, a number of London insurance firms
  have hired Dr. Julian Salt, a leading risk expert, to look into the May 5
  2000 planetary alignment of planets  Sun. Dr. Salt sez the alignment may
  be catastrophic for some countries. "Six planets are going to line up for
  the first time in 6000 years. On May 5 2000, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter
  and Saturn will be in line with [Sol, Earth  Luna]. Potentially the grav-
  ity force could be strong and cause earthquakes and volcanic activity."
  And maybe jock itch: http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/insurance

: Will the world end on 1-1-2K, 5-5-2K, 12-12-2012, the day after tomorrow,
never? Have planetary alignments caused previous tectonic disasters? Really?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# TALK WITH A PSYCHIC FRIEND. "[Psychic organizations] all have web sites.
  Except for the dowsers. Dowsers are sort of Luddites. Dowsers are terrific
  though. They show up with copper bars wrapped around with like aluminum
  tubing and stuff, I mean, weird shit. Dowsing has become this catch-all
  phrase for like detecting some things with other things. 'I lost my baby
  in this thicket!' Call a dowser! The dowser comes in with like, a monkey's
  severed hand inside a shoe box wrapped with wax string. And the hand jumps
  around. Dowsers can search for anything, they search for uranium, oil,
  it's really weird tho..." http://www.feedmag.com/bottomfeeders/bf239.html

: Do you dowse? What's your status in the psychic community? Can you detect
anything? Can anything detect you? Do you have any psychic friends? Why not?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Tag - You're It! (ABC) Tagging murres to track their movements isn't that
  unlike an alien abduction. And 25 minutes later, they have a little metal
  rod sticking out their backs. Then the implants start firing bt...
  abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/exped_tatooshisland7_990806.html

: What entities would you like to abduct and implant? Have you been abducted
and implanted? Do you feel like murres? Do metal rods stick from your back?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Mad Cow - Attempts To Create 'Super Cattle' May Have Lead To BSE Disease.

  The "mad cow" epidemic may have been caused by scientific attempts in the
  1980s to create a super cow. Experts "believe that hormones, taken from
  the brains of slaughterhouse carcasses, were injected into cows in a bid
  to create a new breed of super-cattle. The hormones, extracted from pitu-
  itary glands, were transmitted in an agent that spread mad cow disease and
  infected humans as new variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (nvCJD)." The use
  of human growth hormones in the past has created scientific nightmares as
  results: http://www.sightings.com/health3/cown.htm

# Also: Mad Cow - Beef Blood (!) Used In Some French Wine Process - China
  Bans Them: http://www.sightings.com/health3/mdcwbn.htm
# Mad Cow - UK Scientists Hid BSE Threat In Vaccines Made With Beef
  Products: http://www.sightings.com/health3/madcowbse.htm

: Have you bred any superbeasts lately? Have you spread any noxious diseases
amongst humans? Did aliens help you or 

[CTRL] OEN 8/11/99

1999-08-11 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Today's Lesson From A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky

by Carl Jung


As we know from ancient Egyptian history, there are symptoms of psychic
changes that always appear at the end of one Platonic month and at the
beginning of another. They are, it seems, changes in the constellation
of psychic dominants, of the archetypes, or "gods" as they used to be
called, which bring about, or accompany, long-lasting transformations of
the collective psyche. This transformation started within the historical
tradition and left traces behind it, first in the transition from the
age to Taurus to that of Ares, and then from Ares to Pisces, whose
beginning coincides with the rise of Christianity. We are now nearing
that great change which may be expected when the spring-point enters
Aquarius. . . .

. . . a story that is told all over the world, but differs from an
ordinary rumour in that it is expressed in the form of visions, or
perhaps owed its existence to them in the first place and is now kept
alive by them. I would call this comparatively rare variation a
visionary rumour. It is closely akin to the collective visions of, say,
the crusaders during the siege of Jerusalem, the troops at Mons in the
first World War, the faithful followers of the Pope at Fatima, Portugal,
etc. . . .

The first requisite for a visionary rumour, as distinct from an ordinary
rumour, for whose dissemination nothing more is needed than popular
curiosity and sensation-mongering, is always an unusual emotion. Its
intensification into a vision and delusion of the senses, however,
springs from a stronger excitation and therefore from a deeper source.
=

Fin-de-siecle

I Mean, Totally

Outbursts of lunacy around the world

AUTOROUTE DE NORMANDIE, France - Precisely one earth's turn before the
moon's shadow darkens this patch of ground, the first waves of
coastbound eclipse-bound traffic came to a full stop Tuesday in the
Normandy countryside near milepost 66.
For a long while, three ribbons of vehicles nudged forward barely at
all: an accident far ahead. After 10 minutes, forward movement became
intermittent.

Suddenly out of one sorry-looking old Citroen AX jumped the driver, a
wild-eyed young man in shorts and boots. He ran around the back and
began pushing the little car with its cargo of two friends squeezed
among sleeping bags, tarps, slickers and coolers for a night of waiting.


The man panted, he grunted, he pushed the car down the highway as his
friends mercilessly laughed inside. A driver in the other lane finally
called out to offer help. The breathless man stopped pushing, threw up
his hands.

''It's a joke! It's a joke! This is not a breakdown,'' he shouted, then
jumped back behind the wheel of his car, stage-weeping into his hands,
and let his girlfriend steer.

Merry pranksters are breaking out all over as the last solar eclipse of
the millennium prepares to march across the skies, still forecast to be
cloudy during the midday eclipse in this part of the world.

What the man on the autoroute said could be said of the eclipse itself:
It's a false emergency, only a cosmic joke implying no real breakdown in
the heavens.

Its mockery of heavenly clockwork and earthly predictability gives it
its appeal, and encourages antic behavior like the car-pusher's. A solar
eclipse is a kind of one-off Halloween, a wild if very short night on
the town.

There's almost no creature on earth that doesn't know what nighttime is
like. But one well-advertised ripple in the schedule sends everyone into
paroxysms of anxiety and exhilaration and brutalizing traffic.

Selected manifestations from a waiting world:

-

In the forest of Candor, in France's belt of maximum darkness, 20 people
(including an astrophysicist) are spending the night in a tent 18 meters
(60 feet) high in a tree - for a better view and a closer look at how
feathered tree-dwellers experience the eclipse.

-

In Britain, a workshop that employees mentally handicapped people is
working overtime to produce expensive, custom-made protective glasses
for dogs who might not know about the extreme hazards to eyesight from
directly viewing the eclipse.

The glasses are paw-proof. ''The dogs don't always understand what's
good for them,'' the project coordinator, Alison James-Hart, told Agence
France-Presse.

-

The Dalai Lama, perhaps pulling a leg, recommended at a Geneva news
conference that eclipse watchers pay close attention not to their eyes
but to their nostrils. He explained that once he had felt his breathing
change during the night, and later learned a lunar eclipse had happened.
''So let us try to experiment,'' the spiritual leader said, by keeping
the mouth closed and senses attuned to the nostrils.

-

Apocalyptic visions of the eclipse ended in tragedy in Cali, Colombia,

[CTRL] Buzz Words

1999-08-11 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

http://www.aci.net/kalliste/novak_buzz.htm
A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/novak_buzz.htm"Robert Novak's Buzz
Words, by J. Orlin Grabbe/A
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Buzz Words

by J. Orlin Grabbe


Latest to join the ranks of encryption-nazis, along with en vogue
bashing of Bill Gates, is Robert Novak, a columnist for the Chicago
Sun-Times and regular on CNN’s Capital Gang. Writing in a June 28 column
"A high-tech defeat," Novak drags out the tired boogeyman of
"international drug lords" and "drug cartels" to explain why the DEA’s
Thomas A. Constantine and the FBI’s Louis J. Freeh should be able to
listen to our conversations at their leisure. The fact they can’t is all
the fault of Bill Gates ("the world’s richest man," Novak darkly notes)
because "encryption devices sold by his company and used by
international drug lords are so powerful they cannot be deciphered by
law enforcement." Gee, fancy that.



The satire is all the richer once one realizes that Novak may believe
his own moronic bilge. Let’s summarize the plot and the cast of bit
players.



First we have Bill Gates, an evil plutocrat who is being taken to task
for not selling shoddy-enough products: his software actually runs on
some computers, and his encryption devices can’t be broken by Beavis and
Butthead.



"As Gates knows, no computer is big enough to break Microsoft’s new
codes," warns Robert Novak, crusading journalist, moral conscience of
the nation, and also secretly-paid Microsoft PR agent whose primary task
is to promote the notion that some of Microsoft’s encryption products
are actually secure.



Next, we have "career cop" Thomas Constantine, the ring-leader of a gang
of pirates whose main job is to protect the high profit margins
available to approved dealers of illicit drugs by busting the
competition and thus restricting the supply. Constantine has in recent
years graduated to international bank theft as noted in a previous issue
of Liberty ("The Money Laundromat," November 1995).



Then there are the Freehstone Kops, who (headed by a panty-waist in
elevator shoes) are actually scared of real criminals, and so prefer to
content themselves with monitoring the conversations of widows and
orphans, and others they can easily pick on. In recent years, the Kops
have adopted the motto that "if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em," and
(according to detailed journalistic accounts and court filings) become
heavily involved in protecting the drug trade in locations such as
Montana. However, part of their operation has now fallen apart,
apparently because they weren’t using Microsoft’s "powerful" encryption
products.



Now for the plot complication. Are you ready? The evil Drug Lords, who
work hand-in-hand with Bill Gates to provide a paycheck to the Con and
the Kops, have discovered—prepare yourself now, are you ready?—LEVEL TWO
ENCRYPTION. Their billions in drug profits had not previously allowed
the Drug Lords to reach this plateau of enlightenment, but now with the
aid of the sinister Bill Gates they have gotten their mojo working.



Crusading moralist Novak explains: "Freeh and Constantine are desperate.
Wiretapping is law enforcement's biggest weapon, authorized by court
order 1,329 times nationwide in 1998—72 percent for drug cases. No
longer able to infiltrate the narcotics apparatus, the DEA depends on
eavesdropping.

"But intercepted conversations now are interrupted by a steady buzz,
signifying that intelligible conversation is encrypted. What experts
call ‘level-one encryption’ could be decoded, but the drug lords have
turned to ‘level two.’



" ‘And we can't break it,’ Constantine told me. ‘There's no big computer
in Livermore [Calif.] or in New York City that you can take your staff
to and say, "Take the buzz, and make it into words." It's just that
encryption is ahead of the power of the decrypt.’ The agents need the
key supplied by the manufacturers."



Closely pursued by a STEADY BUZZ, Con and Kops go in search of the
sacred keys. After many adventures and close calls, the pair of lovable
rogues rescue a sexy blonde, Helga, 19, whose bits were previously held
in bondage to Microsoft’s powerful codes. She gives them a list of
computer manufacturers: Compaq, Dell, Apple, IBM . . . .



"You left off Microsoft," Con points out suspiciously.



"Microsoft doesn’t manufacture computers," Helge explains with a flutter
of her eyelashes. "We need the keys supplied by the manufacturers,
remember?"



Their team is soon joined by Novak, the crusading journalist and Jesus
of juju. He hastily delivers the latest news: ". . . the Senate and
House Commerce committees last week approved bills to end export
controls over encryption systems to which law enforcement and national
security officials have no access. That would give the big drug cartels,
now based in Mexico, worry-free communications with their U.S.
operatives."



"But wait," Helga says, puzzled. "If the Drug Lords can ship tanker
loads of drugs across the border, why is 

[CTRL] Fwd: Jewish Center Shooting-THREE DIFFERENT REPORTS ON GUNMEN!

1999-08-11 Thread Kris Millegan





8.11.99

Well what do you know. Yesterday we put out a bulletin on the fact that
the shooter in the the Jewish Center shooting in Granada Hills, Cal. was
originally said to be a young, tall and wearing a black shirt, but later
SOMEHOW morphed into being an older, balding man with green clothes. Hmm.

Well, guess what. It turns out this shape-shifting, morphological
creature went through even more drastic changes in appearance than just that!

BEFORE turning into an older bald man, the shooter apparently
shape-shifted or performed some sort of mitosis; changing from being
just ONE teenager in black clothing into--TWO GUNMEN! Yes! Incredible!

THEN, AFTER that, he turned into the older, balding guy with green
clothing. 

If they ever catch this guy--or is that "GUYS"--he/they oughta get a job
on TV. Better yet, politics. Those skills could come in quite handy in
the current political milieu here in the U. S. of A.

Now, we need someone like that stuffed twit Devvy Kidd at "Truth Bypass"
to explain how law enforcement officials were actually correct in every
single extraordinarily conflicting statement they've made about the
description of the shooter (s?)… because in fact there were really NO
shooters at all!  It was all caused just some holographic technology
from one of the movie studios in a truck nearby, which got out of
control and generated varying 3-D holographic images of sociopathic,
deranged mind controlled gunmen. Part of a movie being filmed.

Hey but what about the injured people?

What?! You mean you didn't know holographic bullets can maim and kill?
Well if the government and their uncountable disinformation artists and
other assorted underlings TELL you it's true, IT MUST BE TRUE! Right, folks?

Now you're catching on.


Please read the email below sent to NewsHawk from a reader.

John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.


= = = = = = = = = = = = 
The initial description on the news out here in California was a
teenager wearing black clothing and shooting a 9mm handgun.  Then it
became *two gunmen* and the account turned to one of them carrying "a
rapid-fire automatic handgun."  The two gunmen report persisted for
several hours, and the weapon morphed into an Uzi, about the time the
report of the balding, 40-ish guy in green surfaced.  From the report I
heard on my car radio at lunch to the evening news, you would swear it
was almost two different incidents.

Here's some more food for thought.  They just posted a bulletin on the
guy they're looking for, by the name of Farrell.  Mind you, they haven't
really gotten a good report on this guy, as yet, let alone run him to
ground, and already they have mug shots and a full name to post on the
11 o'clock news. Draw whatever conclusions you want from this.

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The initial description on the news out here in California was a teenager
wearing black clothing and shooting a 9mm handgun.  Then it became *two
gunmen* and the account turned to one of them carrying "a rapid-fire
automatic handgun."  The two gunmen report persisted for several hours, and
the weapon morphed into an Uzi, about the time the report of the balding,
40-ish guy in green surfaced.  From the report I heard on my car radio at
lunch to the evening news, you would swear it was almost two different
incidents.

Here's some more food for thought.  They just posted a bulletin on the guy
they're looking for, by the name of Farrell.  Mind you, they haven't really
gotten a good report on this guy, as yet, let alone run him to ground, and
already they have mug shots and a full name to post on the 11 o'clock news.
Draw whatever conclusions you want from this.

Jane







Re: [CTRL] Fw: Granada Hills shooting (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 08/10/1999 10:10:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 2) the gunman was a right-wing bigot who hated Jewish people, and just
 wanted to strike a blow for "white supremacy." 

This is as close to a pick as you gave me, but if shooting old ladies and
little kids gives anybody any kind of "supremacy" feelings, he or she doesn't
(in the words of Shania Twain) impress me much.   Prudy

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[CTRL] [4] BETRAYAL

1999-08-11 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany
Arthur D. Rahn
Former Chief Editor of Intelligence
Office of the Director of Information Control
Office of Military Government, Germany
Book  Knowledge
Warsaw, Poland
pps. 237  (no date) out-of-print
--[4]--
CHAPTER FOUR

Prelates In Politics

Germans After All

"And above all, it (victory) shall not be imperiled by the handful of noisy
traitors — betrayers of America and of Christianity itself — would-be
dictators who in their hearts and souls have yielded to Hitlerism and would
have this Republic do likewise."
--From radio talk to the Nation, April 28, 1942.

IN a sermon delivered a few days after VE day a protestant minister in
Stuttgart summarized the attitude of many of the Evangelical clergy toward
Hitler, boldly declaring:

"We are asked now why we put up for twelve years with this man whom we now so
universally revile. The answer is not difficult. We enthusiastically admired
many of his aims — the liberation of the people from the chains of that
dictated peace; the amalgamation into one Reich of all Germans, who want to
live together; the fight against communism and other forces of destruction..."

Our men were not prepared for such an attitude from the clergy. The churches
had a reputation for being an uncompromising antifascist force and not for
being in general agreement with the Hitler program. The combat GIs and
officers were frequently ahead of the average MG officers in their
understanding of what had to be done in Germany and how to do it, but
practically all Americans in the occupation, no matter what their wartime
experience or philosophy about the Germans, were uninformed and naive about
the churches. For MG, the church leaders not only had an anti-Nazi and a
"safe" (there was no suspicion of their being "reds") reputation, but they
also had the advantage of representing the only institutions still intact in
the country. MG officers were usually pleased at having the clergy to assist
them in dealing with the population and in organizing the municipal
administrations. In fact, from the time of Aachen — where our experience with
the Bishop had been so unfortunate — it appeared that it would become
customary procedure for our occupation officers to go directly to the clergy
for consultation as soon as they arrived in their cities.

Like the "conservative" politicians, the clergymen were frightened at the
"bolshevik menace" now that the anti-communist Nazi "bulwark" had been
removed. From the very first, throughout the Zone priests and ministers were
interceding for Party members, urging the appointment of "conservatives", and
warning MG against the "red menace" inherent in our revolutionary
denazification program. The entire political outlook of the churchmen was
determined by their fear of the "communists."

In September, 1945, Landesbischoff (State Bishop) Dr. Thomas Mueller, head of
the Evangelical Church in the province of Hesse, assured me that "old
Hindenburg, an honorable Christian", was the kind of German he wanted to see
back in power. Mueller was not concerned that Hindenburg had been a
militarist, a monarchist and a member of the old Junker class to whom
democracy was completely uncongenial. Mueller admired Hindenburg because the
old Marshal had been a "strong leader" who knew how to "save the Reich from
the marxists." In September, 1945, Mueller was again afraid of the "reds"
just as Hindenburg, his hero, had been in January, 1933, when as President of
the tottering Weimar Republic, he had called upon Hitler to assume the
chancellorship to put down the "bolsheviks." The head of the Catholic Church
in the same city, Darmstadt, Dr Degen, the representative of the Catholic
Bishop of Mainz and an old friend and admirer of Kurt Schuschnigg, the
reactionary and undemocratic chancellor of Austria, was in general agreement
with the Evangelical Bishop. Degen wanted a strong ruler now because he did
not trust the "despicably stupid German masses." (Degen did not conceal his
equal contempt for the Americans, including the local MG detachment.)

From our very entrance into Germany, important church leaders were expressing
opinions dangerous to our aims. The renowned Bishop of Muenster, the
venerable von Galen, called the "Black Bishop of Muenster" by the Nazis for
his stubborn opposition to Hitler's anti-church campaign, grumbled to one of
our intelligence men a few ' days after we had captured his city: "We don't
want you here. We can solve our own problems — we Germans, alone. For us, you
are the enemy." And a preacher in the Cathedral of Regensburg brazenly
abjured his congregation for their supine submission to the occupation powers
shortly after this city had fallen. One of the Bavarian bishops stubbornly
refused to attend the showing of our concentration camp film because he
considered it "humiliating."

These individual utterances did not necessarily represent official church
policy, however. That's why we 

Re: [CTRL] Underground bases and tunnels

1999-08-11 Thread Eagle 1

 -Caveat Lector-

For those of you who have not seen or heard of this,
Here's a link to the Leading Edge report on the
Denver Airport and it's strange
paintings / Mason connection.

http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html

There is an interview available on this site about the
possibility of an underground base beneath the Denver Airport.
For example:

DA: Now, you mentioned that underneath this airport it goes down many
levels.

AC: Yes.

DA: Does the fact that all these underground levels are there have something
to do with why it took so long for this airport to open?

AC: Well, the gentleman that I was dealing with, Phil Schneider, said that
during the last year of construction they were connecting the underground
airport system to the deep underground base. He told me that there was at
least an eight-level deep underground base there, and that there was a 4.5
square mile underground city and an 88.5 square-mile base underneath the
airport. It is very unusual that they would allot a 50 square-mile area on
the surface at which to locate an airport in the middle of nowhere unless
they really planned to use it for something very unusual later. There is a
10-mile, 4-line highway out to this airport, and there is nothing out there
in between the airport and Denver. Not even a service station, at least in
September 1995. The people in Denver are really upset with the fact that
this airport went in the way it did.

There was this fellow who wrote a book in which he made the statement that
they had a copy of an audio tape on which a Denver city official was talking
with people from the CIA, and that he was paid 1.5 million dollars to allow
the "airport" to be built, no matter what it took. It appears that there was
a lot more interest in getting the airport built from just officials in the
Denver area. They plan on using this facility for something else other than
just landing planes.

DA: So, this guy got you down there to take a look at the underground?

AC: Well, he was invited to go along on the trip. I had a friend that
actually got us down into the active area in the underground. It's very
interesting down there. The baggage equipment area is very unusual. All the
old luggage equipment that wouldn't work right doesn't look much different
than the stuff that is working today.

DA: You were telling me that there are huge concrete corridors with
sprinkers all along the ceiling. What are these sprinkler heads doing in a
concrete bunker, pray tell?

AC: Well, this is the same question we asked. These shafts are huge and run
along adjacent to the tramline on both sides. So, there are two of these
huge shafts large enough to fit a two-lane highway in there. There ar every
few openings into and out of the tram shaft, but at the end of them, going
out into this 50 square miles of acreage is a huge steel door that would
facilitate the entrance of a great big truck. It could be used for almost
anything, but what is so unusual about it is that about every five or six
feet on the ceiling, across almost the full width of the area, there is a
pipe with three or four sprinkler heads. This goes on for the full length of
the thing, which must be close to a mile. There are two of these shafts, and
I got picture in the mail the other day which was very unusual that was
taken by someone on board the tram in the shaft. The picture appeared to
actually show ghost-like figures on it. It was a mother and a baby wrapped
in a blanket. When you are down in that concrete shaft, both times I got
nauseated. There are some very unusual vibrations down there. Now, the
tunnel shaft that the tram comes in on could connect up with an underground
tunnel coming in from five buildings that were built and buried. There was
already a 40 foot diameter tunnel there when construction started. Those
five buildings they built 3 1/2 years ago, and suddenly they said ,"oops,
these are in the wrong place" and buried them, along with a very high-tech
runway that is buried under about four inches of dirt. It seems insane that
they would build a very technical building complex with interlocking tunnels
and a tunnel going back to the tram tunnel at the concourse, and then state
that they built it in the "wrong place" and cover it up with dirt. I don't
believe that people are that stupid.

DA: No. Projects like that are strategically planned, and they just don't go
and do that.

AC: Some of these five buildings are 150 feet tall. There is one 78 feet
tall, and one that is 126 feet tall. They are all in that range. From this
complex there is a shaft that runs to concourse "C". When they started this
project, as I said, there was also a huge 40 foot diameter shaft brought in
there from somewhere that was off-limits to the work crews. It was there
when the project was started. And, everybody that worked on these
projectsthere were five different contractors, and the people on each
contracted crew did not interact with the other ones. When the 

Re: [CTRL] U.S. Court of Appeals says veterans not guaranteed health ...

1999-08-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 08/11/1999 3:19:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


In siding with the Justice Department, the appeals court said
 military regulations never provided for unconditional lifetime
 free medical care or authorized recruiters to promise care as an
 inducement to joining or staying in the military. 

Isn't that odd?  When my husband retired from the USAF in l977, he was given
a copy of AFP 211-1-12, Air Force Guide for Retired Personnel.

On page 53 it says:

Under the provisions of chapter 55, title l0, U.S.C., retired members and
their eligible dependents are authorized certain hospitalization and
outpatient care in civilian medical facilities as well as uniformed services
facilities.  Medical or dental care provided retired members nd their
dependents in uniformed services medical facilities is subject to the
availability of space and facilities and the capabilities of the professional
staff.  Retired members (but not their dependents), may also receive care in
Veterans Administration facilties on a space-available basis.  They will no
longer have to state under oath that they are financially unable to defray
the cost of care.  Dental care, except as a necessary adjunct to medical or
surgical treatment, is not authorized from civilian sources.

Para 113.  Eligibility.  Those eligible for authorized medical benefits
include:

a.  Retired member (any member or former member of a uniformed service
who is entitled to retired, retainer, or equivalent pay as a result of
service in a uniformed service).

 b.  Spouse

c.  Unremarried widow.

d.  Unremaried widower

Etc, etc, etc.

And even though it stipulates that those over 65 will be eligible for
civilian care under the Social Security Medicare Program and will no longer
be eligible for civilian care under the Uniformed Services Health Benefits
Program.  The last sentence of that paragraph announcing this says, "All
beneficiaries, however, may continue to receive space-available care in
uniformed services facilities.

It really doesn't appear that the promises of recruiters had much to do with
it.   I do recall it commonly mentioned that the wonderful medical care we
would all receive would make up for the rather poor pay package the military
was and is quite famous for.   Guess the recruiters should find something
else to talk about anyway.

Prudy

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[CTRL] The baboons got agitated in the dark, .. [eclipse]

1999-08-11 Thread Bard

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/specials/total_eclipse/newsid_4170
00/417679.stm
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 Published at 16:29 GMT 17:29 UK


Wildlife fooled by double dawn

Plenty to look at for eclipse watchers: But there was not always much to
hear from the birds

By Environment Correspondent Alex Kirby
Along the path of the total solar eclipse, many creatures reacted to the
darkened skies entirely naturally - by settling down to sleep.

Hayle in Cornwall is home to a bird sanctuary, Paradise Park. It has a big
parrot collection, and several other rare and exotic species.

One of the park's directors, Nick Reynolds, said the morning turned out very
much as he had expected.

"All the birds settled down when the darkness came. It was very quiet for a
time, with heads tucked under wings, and the flamingoes on one leg ready for
sleep.

Gulls left behind

"When it got light there was a real dawn chorus, though perhaps not quite as
loud as it would normally be.



Not dark enough for owls
"The only surprise was that the owls didn't start hooting. They probably
didn't have time to wake up.

"The gulls? They had no idea what was happening."

At Paignton zoo in Devon, the birds went back to their nests during the
darkness. But there was no dawn chorus, except for a song from the Bali
starling.

Kate Bankier, the zoo's press officer, said the gulls were the most confused
of all.

"There was a large flock, flying out to sea and back again, obviously
looking for somewhere to roost until they realised they didn't need to.

"The baboons got agitated in the dark, and then became very confused when
the light quickly returned.

"The Sulawesi crested macaques (a species of monkey) and the Asiatic lions
both split along gender lines.

"The females settled down to sleep with their young. The males just wandered
around looking confused."

Bagpiper outdid birds

Andrew Lawson, head gardener at Tresco Abbey gardens on the Isles of Scilly,
found it was a day to remember, but not because of the wildlife.

"There were about 70 yachts between us and the next island", he said.

"On one there was a bagpiper playing Amazing Grace, and another had a
trumpeter on board, playing the Last Post.

"So I heard very little from the birds, except for the gulls. They didn't
seem to know what was going on."


The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds described the morning as "a
bit of a non-event".

"The birds round here seemed to go about their business as usual", said Mike
Everett, a press officer at the RSPB headquarters in Bedfordshire.

"We asked our wardens round the country to report anything unusual. But we
haven't heard a dicky-bird from any of them."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/specials/total_eclipse/newsid_4170
00/417679.stm

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Re: [CTRL] Making the World Safe for American Business, One Execu...

1999-08-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 The archives here show that a United States military official, Col. Robert
 Thierry, apparently helped draw up the apparatus of the police state as he
 trained police officers for the Technical Section soon after General
 Stroessner seized power here in 1954. A relative, Margaret Van Skike,
 located in Galveston, Tex., said that Colonel Thierry died several years
 ago.

 Earlier this year, the Federal Bureau of Investigation released a document
 confirming that it had provided the Pinochet regime with information about
 Jorge Isaac Fuentes de Alarcón, the leader of a leftist movement in Chile
 who, the archives here show, was first seized and interrogated by Paraguayan
 agents. F.B.I. officers checked addresses in the United States found in
 Fuentes's personal phone book and gave the results and information on
 Fuentes's questioning in Paraguay to the Pinochet regime. Fuentes
 disappeared in Chilean custody. 

Well it appears that no less a Christian authority than Pat Robertson says
political killings are okay.  At least that's what the little paragraph in
today's paper said.  I guess if it's good enough for Pat, our military and
FBI can be excused.  We're the guys carrying the crosses and wearing the
white hats.  We must be heroes.

Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Oliver North

1999-08-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 that five more Americans had lost their lives
 fighting a secret war in Colombia;  

That's the problem right there.  We're discussing a SECRET WAR.  It is
undeclared and unnoticed.  If you want a real declaration of war against
Columbia and all the rest of South and Central America, I suggest you write
or call your
Congressman.  Get war declared.  Then President Clinton can honor the dead in
the usual manner.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2

1999-08-11 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990811b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Meteors to shower Earth. (BBC) The annual Perseid meteor shower on
  Thursday should be particularly good this year. Satellites zapped?
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_416000/416163.stm

@ Links: The Leonids: http://www.leonidslive.com/
@ Wally Pacholka's astropics: http://www.astropics.com/
@ Perseids: http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast09aug99_1.htm
@ Int'l Meteor Org - Perseids: http://imo.net/articles/shower/per97.html
# Also: Sound of shooting stars: bang! bang! bang! bang! bang!
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_321000/321596.stm

: Now that the eclipse is over, can we focus on meteors for a few hours? Do
you watch meteor storms? Will they wipe out satellites? Is humanity doomed?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Eclipse-O-Rama:

# Iranians pray for solar eclipse. TEHRAN, Iran (UPI) - As foreign tourists
  and astronomers poured into the Persian state to catch a sight of the
  century's last solar eclipse, thousands of Iranians crammed the country's
  mosques to pray for God's forgiveness and mercy.
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/10/tech-science-iran

# Moroccans frustrated over eclipse:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/10/tech-science-morocco
# Eclipse chasers gather in Turkey:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560656336-980
# Car-obsessed Germans mull eclipse:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560654892-0e5
# Romania prepares for eclipse:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560657254-d7c
# Eclipse darkens Cairo, cooled the oven-hot air downtown briefly:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/10/tech-science-egypt
# Mir Defies Eclipse Doom-Sayer, Gets Unique View:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/09/science-eclipse-russia
# Eclipse Sweeps Across Europe, Middle East:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/09/science-eclipse-russia
# Eclipse passes over Israel:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/09/tech-science-israel
# Eclipse in Belgrade disappointed many:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/08/tech-science-yugoslavia
# Gaza streets empty because of eclipse:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/08/tech-science-palestinians
# Syrians enjoy holiday on eclipse day:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/08/tech-science-syria
# Lebanese huddle at homes for eclipse:
  http://news.excite.com/news/u/990811/06/tech-science-lebanon

# First reports of eclipse eye damage. (BBC) Helplines at two specialist eye
  centres are already taking calls from people fearing they've damaged their
  sight by looking at the Sun. Do not look into laser with remaining eye:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_417000/417528.stm

: Will the eclipse news items never end? Do morons who stared into the Sun
deserve blindness? Did voices in your head tell you to eyeball the eclipse?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ PHOENIX EVACUATION? News from White Mountain area in Arizona: 2 weeks ago
  approx 1500 residents rec'd mailing from gov't agencies giving NOTICE that
  they were subject to possible future "20 minute notice of evacuation".
  Instructions were brief: they are to take only identifying documents
  (passports, licenses, birth records, etc), any cash on hand, no mention of
  personal items or clothing. They are to proceed to a specific rendezvous
  point in their area, whereupon white vans would transport them to "holding
  areas" (and subsequently to temporary housing?). They are also to "mark"
  their house with a white flag or towel or sheet - hung somewhere near
  their front door to indicate they have been evacuated when troops move
  into the area. The feds apparently answered some of their questions:

  1. The reason for them getting the notices is because of their proximity
 to an underground government facility.
  2. The feds expect some kind of emergency situation in the near future.
  3. Their homes may be needed to house a large number of "flatlanders" (the
 feds' term) from Phoenix. Approx. 100,000 people will be evacuated from
 Phoenix after which "the bridges will be blown" - apparently to prevent
 any further escape by residents of that city.

  Additionally: according to a message on the APFN, the 101st Airborne in
  (NC?) has been on alert status for a few weeks now - ostensibly to support
  operations against American Militia groups slated for August 4th. Other
  info at http://http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532 indicates that
  Cheyenne Mtn is also at defcon 3 status and has been for some time.
  The weird side to this: White Mtn is ALSO reputed to be an underground
  ALIEN base (reptilian) acccording to many UFO fringe 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3

1999-08-11 Thread ric carter

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# Early Humans Got Smart By Cooking Veggies. (Reuters) Fire helped early
  humans evolve and become more intelligent not because it allowed them
  to barbecue meat, but because it allowed them to cook vegetables.
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/00/science-science-cooking

# New Imaging Technique Finds Damaging Brain Lesions. (Reuters) A new
  kind of imaging technique can help doctors find damaging brain lesions
  before they cause paralysis, strokes or other problems.
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/00/science-health-lesions

: Do vegetables grow brains? Do brains grow lesions? What's the connection?
Do alien implants help you cook vegetables? Do they cause lesions? bzzzt
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Pink storm, tree-shaped frost on Mars. WASHINGTON Peering thru stormy pink
  Martian skies, a NASA spacecraft has found tree-like shapes dotting the
  red planet's south pole. But what appears to be rolling hills covered with
  vegetation are most likely sand dunes topped with melting frost. Latest
  images  http://www.msss.com/  from the $250 million Mars Global Surveyor
  now mapping the planet offer new insight into weather there. "Since this
  whole area is at about minus 150 degrees Celsius, these are clearly not
  plants growing up out of the frost, but something else is happening."
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560656929-e7c
  and http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/00/science-space-mars

: What are your favorite Martian trees? Are they intelligent? Will Martian
tree spores inadvertently returned to Earth consume our biosphere? When??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Unusual weather blamed on ocean. LOS ANGELES(AP) U.S. weather seems out of
  whack, with unusually cool temperatures in the West and stifling, unrelen-
  ting heat in the East. The ocean that spawned El Nino  its deadly storms
  may be to blame. Unusually warm Pacific Ocean temperatures off Asia and
  abnormally cool water off North America are shoving the jet stream farther
  north. That keeps the West Coast cool and prevents air masses from bumping
  into each other. And that means no thunderstorms or other rain. See
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560656593-bf6

: Who's mucking around with oceans, causing these weather disasters, waging
EcoWar on the U.S.? Is this due to HAARP projections gone astray? Who gains?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

#: Muslim rule pushed in Russia region. MAKHACHKALA, Russia (AP) Bearded men
  in combat fatigues sit at a roadblock at the entrance to their mountain
  village in Russia's Caucasus Dagestan region. A car approaches. They lift
  their guns and aim toward it. The car stops. Inside, a man is smoking a
  cigarette, an act forbidden by the Koran, they tell the man as they drag
  him to a nearby building flying a green Islamic flag. A mullah pronounces
  the punishment - 40 cane blows on the back. In this part of south Russia,
  the Koran, as interpreted by local religious leaders, is the law of the
  land and Russian law means nothing. Across the Caucasus Mountains region,
  a rebellious mix of nationalism and Islamic fundamentalism is challenging
  Moscow's grip. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560654867-eaf

: Should Russia just abandon Dagestan and Chechnya, the last-conquered and
least-Russian components of the Russian Empire? Are CIA mind-control rays
responsible for Russian intransigence in the Caucasus? What foreign powers
back the Ayatollahs there? Who gains by controlling the region? Gains what?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Kansas Educators To Vote On Teaching Of Evolution. TOPEKA (Reuters)
  The Kansas Board of Education prepared to vote on a proposal that would
  essentially strip evolution from the state curriculum as scientists from
  around the nation said they were watching the ballot closely. Dumb and
  dumber: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/00/science-science-evolution

: If evolution is banned in Kansas, will all rational people depart, leaving
the area to fundy jeezoids  cretinists? Are there any rational Kansans now?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Two religious groups banned in Sudan. KHARTOUM (AP)  Local officials have
  banned a Muslim and a Christian group after several people were injured
  earlier this week in a stone-throwing clash. Members of a hard-line Muslim
  group, which had been warned earlier not to provoke the Christians, began
  throwing stones during a Sunday Mass. The Muslims who led the clash belong
  to the hard-line Ansar al-Sunna group, not linked to the Islamic central
  gov't. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560655612-bb2

: What religious groups would you like to 

[CTRL] NEW COURT FILING re. first yenta and fbi files

1999-08-11 Thread Bard

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JUDICIAL WATCH, INC.PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE   Contact: Tom Fitton Wednesday, 
August 11, 1999
(202) 646-5172


EVIDENCE THAT HILLARY CLINTON AT CENTER OF FILEGATE RELEASED BY JUDICIAL
WATCH IN NEW COURT FILING


Sworn Testimony of Sherry Rowlands Says Morris Told Her Mrs. Clinton Did It

Others, Such As Billy Dale, Chris Emery, and FBI Agents Sculimbrene and
Aldrich Provide Testimony Showing That Filegate Was Not an Innocent Mistake


Washington, August 11). Judicial Watch will post on its internet site late
today at www.judicialwatch.org a new 135 page (with thousands of pages of
exhibits) court filing, called "Plaintiff's Supplemental Memorandum
Concerning Substitution and Class Certification," which details the
involvement of Hillary Clinton in the largest violation of privacy rights
in American history; the scandal known as Filegate.
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[CTRL] Fw: News - Alert @ 08/11/99

1999-08-11 Thread Ric Carter

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 Alert for Wednesday, August 11, 1999

 *** Alleged L.A. gunman surrenders

 LAS VEGAS (AP) - The balding man who allegedly wounded five people at
 a Jewish community center in Los Angeles turned himself in Wednesday
 to the FBI here, a source told the Associated Press. FBI spokeswoman
 Julie Miller in Washington confirmed the surrender. The man who
 identified himself as Buford O. Furrow, 37, said he took a cab from
 Los Angeles, an agency source said, speaking on condition of
 anonymity. He told investigators "he wanted this to be a wake-up call
 to America to kill Jews," an the source said. He walked into the
 office and said, "You're looking for me, I killed the kids in Los
 Angeles." The source said said Furrow assumed he had killed some
 children there. ###

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[CTRL] Clinton Isn't the Only One with his Eyes on Reining in tthe Internet

1999-08-11 Thread K
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{HYPERLINK "http://www.rightgrrl.com"}{PRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=Right Grrl!"}{HYPERLINK "http://www.rightgrrl.com"}I sometimes get the feeling that Klinton and the RepublicRats are playing "Good Cop, Bad Cop"  and we are taken in by the deception. 

http://www.enterstageright.com/0899netreg.htm
{PRIVATE}The end of Internet regulation
By Steve Martinovich web posted August 9, 1999
America, put your mind at ease. According an agency of the United States government, the Internet is prospering because it is taking a hands-off approach to regulating it. If you missed it, a study commissioned by the Federal Communications Commission says that the Internet has prospered in part because of the commission's hands-off approach to regulating it.
The study lauds the commission's role in developing a reliable and affordable telephone system -- originally a government granted monopoly -- over which data services could be offered as enabling the Internet to prosper. FCC policies have apparently also helped to keep dial-up Internet access costs down by exempting enhanced service providers from the access charges paid by other types of carriers...certainly sounds hands-off to me.
Of course, the study left an out in case the FCC has to "protect consumers." The commission, said the study, still must be wary of alleged anticompetitive behavior in the market, such as bottlenecks and tying up lines. But the paper urges that any responses should be at the bare minimum and should outweigh the costs of regulation.
But where one hand giveth, the other is quite capable of taking away. The FCC may have taken a slightly more laissez-faire approach to regulation, but other branches of government haven't been so generous. The same old boogey men cited by politicians a few years ago about the danger of the Internet are being trotted out today.
For example, claiming on-line pornography is a "serious problem," five members of Congress asked a federal appeals court to uphold a law that makes it a crime to post sexually explicit images on-line.
A 28-page amicus brief, submitted July 19, says Congress intended the Child On-line Protection Act -- the successor to the Communications Decency Act -- to address "the dire situation" of tens of thousands of pornographic Web sites that both adults and children can easily visit.
Senator John McCain of Arizona, Senator Dan Coats (retired) and Congressmen Tom Bliley of Virginia, Michael Oxley of Ohio, and James Greenwood of Pennsylvania -- Republicans each and every one of them -- all signed onto the brief arguing that the Child On-line Protection Act is a narrowly crafted law that will affect just pornographers, that the appeals court, which ruled that it violated free speech, should go out of its way to find a way to ensure it is constitutional, and that it is the least restrictive way to accomplish Congress' stated objective of protecting children on-line.
If using the straw man of pornography wasn't bad enough, how about cryptography?
On July 21, the House Armed Services Committee voted 47-6 to replace an industry supported bill with one drafted by law enforcement advocates. The industry bill would have relaxed rules on things like web browsers but the one introduced by Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Penn)would grant the president complete authority to deny any expert controls that he considers "contrary to the national security interests of the United States."
The House Rules Committee will decide what version, if any, will be voted on by the entire chamber. Experts expect that if the industry- backed version wins, opponents would try to add crippling amendments during a floor vote.
Under Weldon's plan, the president will set the "maximum level of encryption strength" that companies may export and will convene a 12- member "Encryption Industry and Information Security Board" to advise on how widespread foreign encryption products are.
Well, things really haven't changed in those areas, but at least politicians are leaving e-commerce alone to give a chance for future Bill Gateses and Scott McNealys to get started, right? Wrong.
On July 22, House Republicans announced an "E-Contract" with America. Filled with statements designed to remind one of the Declaration of Independence, the document promised "to continue our legislative...efforts to remove the barriers to future innovation, competition, and growth."
"Keep up the good work, and we'll try to stay out of your way," said House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas).
Of course, Armey forgot to check in with one of his peers in the Senate. The very same morning that Armey spoke his words of liberation, Senator Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.) introduced his Anti- Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, just recently passed in the Senate. The legislation would allow companies to recover up to $300 000 from anyone who registers an Internet domain name that appears to infringe on one of their trademarks.
That gives existing corporations first right to 

[CTRL] Fw: Keep Your Powder Dry

1999-08-11 Thread K
 -Caveat Lector-
>
> Keep Your Powder Dry
>
> The current edition of Insight magazine has a revealing article about the
> manner in which Bill Clinton has abused the power of his office. Since
> becoming president, Clinton has issues no less than 300 Executive Orders
>
> and, according to many constitutional scholars, has done so for the
> express
> purpose of circumventing congress when they wouldn’t give him what he
> wanted. In other words, Bill Clinton has assumed king-like powers and few
> people seem to notice.
>
> The article quotes Tom DeWeese of the American Policy Center as giving the
> following examples of Clinton’s abuse of power:
>
> *Executive Order 13112, which prevents the introduction of "invasive
> species to public property." DeWeese warns that the definition of "alien
>
> species" could include "a farmer’s cattle or even the family dog."
> Imagine
> federal police enforcing that one.
>
> *Executive Order 13107 calls on the US government to implement
> human-rights
> treaties even though they have not been ratified by the Senate as
> required
> in the Constitution. This EO is a blatant and overt maneuver to ignore the
> rule of law and establish rule by dictatorial fiat.
>
> *Executive Order 13061 which designated 14 rivers as federal property.
> This is a massive federal land grab of state, local, even private
> property, which is being done even though funds have never been approved
> by congress.
>
> *Executive Order 13083 which "established federal jurisdiction over
> states
> in matters not enumerated in the Constitution." Clinton suspended this EO
> after much public outcry but has recently reintroduced the same EO using
>
> different language.
>
> *Executive Order 12852 requires American citizens (subjects) to "sustain
>
> the environment." Things viewed as not sustaining the environment
> include
> "air conditioning, high meat intake, frozen and convenience foods,
> fossil
> fuels and kitchen appliances." Can you imagine federal bureaucrats
> enforcing this one?
> Beyond these tyrannical Executive Orders, Bill Clinton has issued no
> less
> than 14 states of emergency. One such declaration was based upon
> "Burma’s
> oppression of democracy." You will recall that Abraham Lincoln used
> Executive Orders twice to declare martial law. You might also be
> interested
> to learn that the United States has been ruled under emergency authority
>
> since FDR declared a state of emergency in 1933.
>
> A 1974 special Senate Committee on National Emergencies and Delegated
> Emergency Powers found that these emergency powers could be used by a US
>
> president to "seize property, control production, restrict travel and
> institute martial law." Co-chairman of that committee, Sen. Frank Church
> of Idaho is reported as saying, "It is distressingly clear that our
> constitutional government has been weakened by 41 years of emergency
> rule." Church wrote, "Presidents could manage every aspect of the lives of
> all American citizens."
>
> Rep. Jack Metcalf of Washington said, "The usurpation of power started
> quietly and has gained respect over time." Insight quotes Rep. Roscoe
> Bartlett as warning that "if something doesn’t change soon the executive
>
> branch will continue to expand by executive order and ‘we’ll need
> another
> revolution.’"
>
> Too much power in the hands of any one man, even an honorable one, is
> always risky business. In the hands of a corrupt man, like Bill Clinton,
>
> too much power can lead to disaster. Congress had the opportunity to be
> faithful to its constitutional obligation and remove this corrupt
> president from office. They failed. As a result, it is logical to assume
> that Bill
>
> Clinton feels that he is untouchable. Therefore, his worst may be yet to
>
> come.
>
> History is replete with the consequences of what happens when any
> national
> leader believes that he is above the law. It is obvious that our
> congress
> is too weak and incompetent to hold Clinton in check. Rep. Bartlett
> might
> be right; it may yet be up to us. I’m keeping my powder dry, just in
> case.
>
>
> Comments to Chuck mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> 
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[CTRL] Windows Y2K

1999-08-11 Thread Bob Stokes

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Windows' "Short Date Format" Scare
Fred Langa



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I've gotten maybe 50 e-mails in the last week about a "new" Y2K issue--maybe
you got one, too. The heart of the letter is something like this:





Every copy of Windows in the world has default settings that will make it
FAIL on Jan. 1, 2000 I'm not kidding Check for yourself PASS THIS
LETTER ON!

TEST:
Click on "START"
Click on "SETTING"
Click on "CONTROL PANEL"
Double click on "REGIONAL SETTINGS" icon
Click on the "DATE" tab at the top of the page.

Where it says, "Short Date Sample," look and see if it shows a "two digit"
year (yy). That is the default setting for Windows 95, Windows 98 and NT.

This date RIGHT HERE is the date that feeds application software and WILL NOT
roll over in the year 2000. It will roll over to 00.

Click on the "SHORT DATE STYLE" pull-down menu and select the option that
shows, mm/dd/. (Be sure your selection has four Y's showing and not two.)

Click on "APPLY" and then click on "OK" at the bottom.

Alas, this note is mostly wrong--in fact, Microsoft calls it an outright
hoax. The worst part of the e-mail is that it fails to distinguish between
date calculations and date displays. The "date format picker" above affects
only how Windows displays dates and interprets the way you type in dates. It
tells you nothing about the underlying software calculations or about your
PC's date-keeping hardware.

If your PC hardware is Y2K compliant and if you're running a newer version of
Windows and/or have applied the Y2K patches available (for free) from the
Microsoft site, Windows will calculate Y2K dates correctly regardless of
whether or not the date is displayed in two- or four-digit format.

What's more, with a compliant PC and the Y2K patches, even if you still allow
two-digit date displays, you'll be fine. The year "00" will be correctly
interpreted as 2000, "01" will correctly mean 2001 and so on. In fact, with
the Y2K patches applied, Windows will interpret any two-digit dates this way:

00 to 29: Windows will infer a "20" before the digits; "15" will mean 2015,
for example.
30 to 99: Windows will infer a "19" before the digits; "85" will mean 1985,
for example.

In most cases, that's exactly the way you want the dates to be interpreted.
(If you need to enter two-digit dates beyond 2029, the Windows date-format
picker lets you define you own outer two-digit date limit.)

Now let's look at the flip side: If you don't have a Y2K-compliant PC, or of
you haven't applied the Y2K patches, then changing the date-display format is
just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic: Changing the format does
nothing to ensure that the date is correct in the first place.

In fact, simply using four-digit dates won't do you any good at all if the
rest of your version of Windows, or the rest of your software or your PC
itself has any of about five completely separate Y2K issues. This "set a
four-digit date format and you'll be fine" approach is way too simplistic.
It's totally misleading. It's wrong.

Fortunately, the real Y2K tests, and the real fixes, are ridiculously easy:

Start by getting correct Y2K patches for whatever version of Windows you use
by going here: http://www.microsoft.com/y2k.

If you wish, go ahead and set your PC's date display to four digits. It does
no harm.

But don't stop there: In about 5 minutes, and for free, you can check each of
the various date-related subsystems in your PC and thus know, for sure and
for real--regardless of what the chain e-mail letters are telling
you--whether or not your PC or OS has a Y2K problem. And if there is a
problem, chances are you can fix it easily and at low cost. It's all detailed
here: http://www.winmag.com/library/1999/0101/fea0061.htm

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[CTRL] Grandpa Munster (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message --

August 9, 1999
Former Munster May Run for Senate

By The Associated Press
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- Anywhere else it would be an oddity, but this is New
York's U.S. Senate race.

Al Lewis -- better known as ``Grandpa'' on the 1960s television show
``The Munsters'' -- says he is considering a Senate run.

The 89-year-old cigar-chomping comedian announced Monday he was setting
up an exploratory committee. He also took a shot at his likely rivals,
dubbing New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and first lady Hillary
Rodham Clinton ``Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.''

All three are eyeing the seat being vacated next year by Sen. Daniel
Patrick Moynihan.

It wouldn't be Lewis' first foray into politics. Last year, he
unsuccessfully ran for governor on the Green Party ticket. He got 52,533
votes.
___

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[CTRL] Study links crime rate's fall, legalized abortion

1999-08-11 Thread Robert Tatman

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The Philadelphia Inquirer, August 11, 1999

Study links crime rate's fall, legalized abortion

By Marie McCullough

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Two scholars trying to understand the nation's dramatic drop in crime over the
past decade have come up with an explosive explanation: Legalized abortion
wiped out many potential criminals.

In a 45-page research paper that has been raising eyebrows at academic
workshops, the authors say that, after abortion was legalized in 1973, it was
disproportionately used by women at high risk of having children who grow up
to become criminals.

"Teenagers, unmarried women and African Americans are all substantially more
likely to seek abortions," authors Steven D. Levitt, a University of Chicago
economist, and John J. Donohue 3d, a Stanford University professor of law and
economics, write. "Children born to these mothers tend to be at higher risk
for committing crime 17 years or so down the road, so abortion may reduce
subsequent criminality through this selection effect."

The authors drew on a wealth of reproductive health studies done by other
scholars here and in Europe showing that young, disadvantaged and minority
women have higher abortion rates, and that unwanted children are more likely
to have troubled lives and become involved in crime.

But the researchers - who plan to submit their paper to an academic journal
after making revisions - have broken new ground in linking abortion rates to
crime rates.

They found that the timing of the "crime bust" of the 1990s corresponds to the
time when children, had they been born instead of aborted in the 1970s, would
have been reaching their peak ages of criminal activity: 18 through 24.

The authors also found that the crime bust began earlier in states that
legalized abortion before the landmark 1973 Supreme Court ruling. Moreover,
the bust was bigger in states with higher abortion rates: about 1 percent less
crime for every 10 percent increase in abortion.

"If these estimates are correct, legalized abortion can explain about half of
the recent fall in crime," the authors write. "We predict crime rates will
continue to fall slowly for an additional 15-20 years as the full effects of
legalized abortion are gradually felt."

This prediction seems to defy something they found in birth-rate data: Women
who had abortions went on to have higher fertility rates, so, in effect, their
childbearing was postponed. Yet this did not cause the crime rate to rebound.

"This suggests it is not simply who has the abortion that leads to the lower
crime rate . . . but the ability of the woman to choose better timing for
child-rearing that lowers criminality," the authors speculate.

In interviews, Levitt and Donohue said that the aim of their study was
strictly to help explain one of the most puzzling trends of this decade: the
abrupt drop in crime, particularly murder, which is down 30 percent since
1991. In their opinion, popular theories - better policing, more imprisonment,
the war on drugs, a strong economy - simply cannot explain the magnitude,
persistence and widespread nature of the drop.

Legalizing abortion, in contrast, was a national watershed. In the decade
after the Supreme Court decision, one-third of all pregnancies were ended in
abortion. (Now, about one-quarter are terminated.)

The researchers say they are not advocating abortion, or pushing any social,
political or racial agenda.

"My academic career has been devoted to understanding crime and the criminal
justice system," Levitt said. "But we're not naive. We're aware people might
take our results out of context."

Donohue said he has already gotten nasty calls and e-mail. "Some people like
to inflame the public, and say this is some racist agenda," he said. "That's
unfortunate."

Reaction from colleagues has been respectful. Many see the analysis as
plausible and original, but oversimplified and overstated.

Lawrence W. Sherman, a University of Pennsylvania professor of human relations
and criminology who has not read the analysis, said it does not take into
account the fact that many urban neighborhoods are predominantly made up of
recent immigrants.

"So the huge drops in crime . . . in some major cities may involve a
population that consists largely of immigrants, and that wasn't subject to the
impact" of legalized abortion, he said.

Sherman also said that the abortion-reduces-crime theory is similar to an
earlier "biological theory of crime." That one linked tuberculosis, which
killed more poor children than affluent ones, to low crime rates before World
War II, when the disease became curable.

He called both theories too simple.

Daniel Nagin, a public-policy professor at Carnegie Mellon University who also
has not yet read the paper, said: "I have great respect for John and Steve,
for their intellect and integrity." But Nagin's own research suggests that
women who get pregnant as teens have continuing parenting problems even as
they mature, a 

[CTRL] Buford O'Neal Furrow: a wake-up call to America to kill Jews.''

1999-08-11 Thread Bard

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http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WAPO/19990811/V000373-081199-idx.htm
l

Alleged L.A. Gunman Surrenders
By Robert Macy
Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, August 11, 1999; 2:28 p.m. EDT

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- The white supremacist who allegedly wounded five people at
a Jewish community center in Los Angeles surrendered today, telling
authorities he wanted his act to be ``a wake-up call to America to kill
Jews.''

Authorities said Buford O'Neal Furrow, 37, also would be charged in the
slaying of a postal worker who was shot Tuesday near the community center.

The man who identified himself as Furrow told authorities he took two cabs
for the 275-mile trip from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, one to the
California-Nevada line, the other the rest of the way.

He told investigators ``he wanted this to be a wake-up call to America to
kill Jews,'' an FBI source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

He walked into the office and said, ``You're looking for me, I killed the
kids in Los Angeles.'' The source said Furrow assumed he had killed some
children there.

Thom Mrozek, spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles, said
federal prosecutors would file charges against Furrow today in the slaying
of Joseph Ileto, 39, a postal worker who was killed about an hour after the
center shootings Tuesday.

``It now appears that is related,'' Mrozek said. Ileto had just delivered
mail to a home and was returning to his truck when he was shot several
times. He was found dead in a driveway. There was no indication of a theft,
according to Postal Service officials.

Los Angeles County Deputy District Attorney Craig Hum said he had already
filed a warrant charging Furrow with five state counts of attempted murder,
a procedure that allows authorities in Las Vegas to hold him for extradition
to Los Angeles.

Authorities planned to begin extradition proceedings after an arraignment.

Mrozek said federal civil rights charges also might be brought in the center
shootings.

Early indications are the gunman acted alone, Los Angeles police Chief
Bernard Parks said, adding that investigators are looking into possible
links to any groups or other individuals.

Investigators from Los Angeles were traveling to Las Vegas to find out if
the man would return to California voluntarily, Parks said. If not,
extradition proceedings would begin.

Before the surrender, the hunt for Furrow had spread across the West.

The gunman gave the slip to police who arrived at the center within four
minutes of the shootings Tuesday. He allegedly hijacked a Toyota at gunpoint
about 20 minutes later -- leaving behind a van full of ammunition, survival
paraphernalia, and a book linked to white supremacist thought -- then dumped
the car at a motel and disappeared.

``There is no doubt about it that this is now a hate crime,'' said Rabbi
Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. He spoke
before Furrow's arrest was announced.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which maintains a database of white
supremacists, has information that Furrow belonged to Aryan Nations in 1995,
including a photo, said Mark Potok of the Montgomery, Ala.-based center.

``I have a picture of him, Furrow, in a Nazi outfit,'' Potok said today.

Furrow lived at times in Metaline Falls, Wash., once a haven for the
supremacist group the Order, The Spokesman-Review reported in Spokane.

He served as a security guard at a white supremacist meeting in the 1990s
and had a relationship with Debbie Mathews, widow of Order founder Robert J.
Mathews, the paper said. Mathews was killed in 1984 when his hideout caught
fire during a shoot-out with federal agents on Whidbey Island in Washington
state.

Police did not immediately describe the shootings at the North Valley Jewish
Community in suburban Granada Hills a hate crime, but have said the choice
of targets makes that a possibility.

The attacker strode into the community center's lobby and opened fire with a
semiautomatic gun resembling an Uzi, peppering the building with some 70
shots. A center maintenance worker threw his body over an injured teen,
while teachers and other workers led children to safety.

``There was nothing said by the suspect before the shooting,'' Police Chief
Bernard Parks said. ``It was indiscriminate.''

The wounded include a 5-year-old boy who was hit in the abdomen and leg. He
was in critical condition today after undergoing six hours of surgery and
was given a fair chance of recovery.

Also hurt were center receptionist, 68-year-old Isabelle Shalometh, two
6-year-old boys and a 16-year-old girl who was a counselor at the center's
summer camp that began Monday. The boys and the counselor were in stable
condition today and Mrs. Shalometh, grazed on the arm and back as she dove
for cover, was released from the hospital Tuesday night.

At the center today, staff, parents and children slowly trickled back to
summer programs under the gaze of armed security guards.

``I feel

[CTRL] Project Censored ENVIRONMENTAL STUDENT ACTIVISTS GUNNED DOWN ON CHEVRON OIL FACILITY IN NIGERIA / GENE TRANSFERS LINKED TO DANGEROUS NEW DISEASES / U. S. TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT DEATH SQUADS IN CHIAPAS / Etc.

1999-08-11 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU
Subject:
  SECRET INTERNATIONAL TRADE AGREEMENT UNDERMINES THE SOVEREIGNTY
OF NATIONS
 Date:
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 http://www.sonoma.edu/ProjectCensored/


Project Censored's Top 25 1998

 Introduction
 Top Censored Story: " SECRET INTERNATIONAL TRADE AGREEMENT UNDERMINES
THE SOVEREIGNTY OF NATIONS "
 Story #2: "CHEMICAL CORPORATIONS PROFIT OFF BREAST CANCER "
 Story #3: "MONSANTO'S GENETICALLY MODIFIED SEEDS THREATEN WORLD
PRODUCTION "
 Story #4: "RECYCLED RADIOACTIVE METALS MAY BE IN YOUR HOME"
 Story #5: "U. S. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION LINKED TO THE DEATHS OF A
HALF A MILLION CHILDREN"
 Story #6: "UNITED STATES NUCLEAR PROGRAM SUBVERTS U.N.'S
COMPREHENSIVE
TEST BAN TREATY"
 Story #7: "GENE TRANSFERS LINKED TO DANGEROUS NEW DISEASES"
 Story #8: "NO MERCY FOR WOMEN AS CATHOLIC HOSPITAL MERGERS"
 Story #9: "U. S. TAX DOLLARS SUPPORT DEATH SQUADS IN CHIAPAS"
 Story #10: "ENVIRONMENTAL STUDENT ACTIVISTS GUNNED DOWN ON CHEVRON
OIL
FACILITY IN NIGERIA"
 Story #11-25: (Short Synopses)
 Censored 1998 Judges
 Judges Comments

 Introduction

 Threats to U.S. sovereignty through secret 'Multinational Agreement on

 Investment' Top Project Censored's 1998 list of 10 most censored
 stories.


 ROHNERT PARK, CALIF - Some developments in the course of history have
 such potential to impact nations and humans that it would be
 irresponsible to ignore them. Yet few mainstream news organizations
 have reported on the Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI), which

 would set in place a vast series of protections for foreign
investment.
 According to reports in the alternative press, the MAI would threaten
 national sovereignty by giving corporations near equal rights to
 nations. This agreement has the potential to place profits ahead of
 human rights and social justice, and that is why our judges named this

 story the No.1 censored or under reported story of 1998.


 MAI, hatched in secret negotiations that began in 1995 among
the
 U.S. and 28 other nations, could thrust the world economy closer to a
 system where international corporate capital would hold free reign
over
 the democratic values and socioeconomic needs of people. The MAI will
 also have devastating effects on a nation's legal, environmental and
 cultural sovereignty. It will force countries to relax or nullify
 human, environmental and labor protection to attract investment and
 trade. Necessary measures such as food subsidies, control of land
 speculation, agrarian reform and health and environmental standards
can
 be challenged as "illegal." This same illegality is extended to
 community control of forests, local bans on use of pesticides, clean
 air standards, limits on mineral, gas and oil extraction, and bans on
 toxic dumping.

 The stories, plus timely articles and reviews a resource guide

 are included in the new Project Censored Yearbook: Censored 1998: The
 News That Didn't Make the News. [For review copies, contact Seven
 Stories Press, 212-995-0908]


 The apparent goal of the latest international trade
negotiations
 is to safeguard multinational corporate investments by eliminating
 democratic regulatory control by nation states and local governments,
 the authors report.

 More radical than NAFTA or GATT, MAI would thrust the world
much
 closer to a transnational laissez-faire system where international
 corporate capital would hold free reign over the democratic wishes and

 socioeconomic needs of people.

 Mostly ignored by mainstream press, coverage of this issue was

 offered in the following sources: IN THESE TIMES, "Building the Global

 Economy," Jan. 11, 1998, by Joel Bleifuss; DEMOCRATIC LEFT, "MAI
 Ties," Spring 1998, by Bill Dixon; TRIBUNE DES DRIOTS HUMAINS, "Human
 Rights or Corporate Rights?" April 1998, Volume 5, No.s 1-2, by Miloon

 Kothari and Tara Krause.

 The winners of what are commonly referred to as the Pulitzer
 Prize of investigative reporting were announced today at a ceremony at

 Sonoma State University, where Project Censored is based.

 Prof. Peter Phillips, director of the program, said the annual

 project is conducted by more than 125 faculty, student researchers and

 interns, and community experts. The final 25 censored stories are
 ranked in order of significance by a panel of national judges
including
 members of the media, authors and educators.


 Phillips said he hopes to see a network of alternative press
 sharing significant stories the public needs to know as control of
 mainstream 

Re: [CTRL] Cattle mutilation phenomena and HIV part 1

1999-08-11 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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Like many of you, I have mixed feelings about this plethora of UFO,
paranormal material that keeps surfacing here in and there---much of it
being featured on late night talk radio.

Is the government playing a role in feeding us all of these tales of
the strange and paranormal?  And to what purpose?

Dr. Duke argues that the government isn't involved in cattle mutilations.
He does make a good argument that they have the resources to
experiment on animals in secret if they so wished, so why would they go to
the trouble of mutilating animals at random in such a horrific way?

If we rule out cultists and the government, what are we left with?
Aliens?  I'm not convinced.

I've read Dr. Jacobs's THE THREAT.  After twenty-five to thirty years of
researching UFO abduction experiences, he's concluded that the aliens are
here to turn us into slaves.  His conclusion is based on
thousands of hours of research and interviews--most of it based on
the hypnotic regression of alleged abductees.

I don't think there's any question that the abductees have been the victim
of some kind of horrific experience, and their claims should be taken
seriously; however, there is still no hard evidence to link the
abduction experience to extraterrestials.

Isn't it more likely that the government is promoting the UFO-cattle
mutilation-abduction scenario as part of its ongoing experimentation on
us?

Since we have entered an era in which the image has supplanted
reality and as we know from past experience, our government has
consistently lied to the American people over the years, and we know that
in the past our government has poured millions of dollars into mind control
research, I think the answers to the phenomena can be found closer to
home.

Perhaps the UFO phenomena is just one more brick in the wall, a new
paradigm that is being constructed for us.  At the end of the
twenty-first century, we've learned to accomodate ourselves to horrors,
haven't we?

There is no doubt that crimes are being committed; the stories don't go
away. But until there is concrete proof that extraterrestials are to
blame, I think a more earthly explanation is in order.





On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Nicola Molloy wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Cattle Mutilation Phenomena and HIV

 (c) 1999 Phillip S. Duke, PhD.

 Introduction: Cattle mutilations are logically explainable only as
 Extraterrestrial activities. The mutilation body materials taken all
 correspond with
 sites of HIV transmission or replication (blood) in humans, except for
 the ear, which may contain a locator device. Circumstantial evidence
 suggests cattle are mutilated primarily to harvest HIV antibodies and
 virus from blood in quantity, and to obtain information relating to
 possible
 HIV transmission in humans, by study of the materials taken from
 corresponding cattle mutilation sites. The left ear is always taken,
 presumably
 to facilitate locator retrieval. Healthy, live fetuses are also taken
 from animals to be mutilated. The primary reason for cattle mutilations
 may be to
 harvest HIV antibodies. Cattle mutilation phenomena support the AIDS-ET
 Connection.

 By cattle mutilations I mean cattle found minus their blood and minus
 certain body parts, removed with surgical precision, which humans and
 animals do not eat by choice. Cattle are the family Bovidae,
 domesticated Bos Taurus.

 Cattle mutilations generally occur where cattle are raised and kept in
 quantity on ranges or in pastures. Feed lots and related locations with
 animals under relatively close human surveillance are not affected.
 Cattle mutilations occur only when animals are out of human sight.
 Prime,
 strong, healthy animals are affected. I don't know of a single case
 where an animal which is obviously unhealthy or injured was later found
 mutilated. Mutilations commonly but not always occur at night. A
 pedigreed, especially valuable animal is quite healthy and doing well
 one day,
 and found dead and mutilated the nest. Cattle mutilations are routinely
 reported throughout the world, apparently wherever cattle are kept in
 quantity. Since there is no central agency keeping records, the number
 of mutilations is unknown, but it must number something more than a
 thousand every year. It is not known how long cattle mutilations have
 been occurring, but they have been reliably reported for at least
 several
 decades. There is no universally agreed upon explanation concerning what
 or who is doing cattle mutilations (1,2). All investigators who are not
 county agents agree; cattle mutilations are not the work of animal
 predators.

 The evidence suggesting cattle mutilations are ET phenomena is varied
 and comes from numerous different sources. It is arrived at by logical
 exclusion of all alternative explanations, and by being the only
 explanation capable of explaining the strange facts. The ET explanation
 is bizarre
 but then so are the facts.

 I consider it established beyond any doubt that 

[CTRL] Stop Aid to Israel-$3 billion per year in official grants [The Spotlight]

1999-08-11 Thread Bard

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http://www.spotlight.org/Links/Aid/aid.html

Gideon's Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad
To some, Mossad is the precise - and at times lethal - instrument of
Israel's will, a fiercely dedicated group who masterminded the abduction of
Adolf Eichmann and stole a MiG jet from under the nose of the Iraqis. To
others, Mossad is a fearsome intelligence organization, loyal only to those
who can control it. No one has ever gotten close enough to Mossad to know
the truth. Until now. 354 Pages, $28.
http://www.spotlight.org/Bookstore/New_Books/new_books.html


The Liberty Lobby Book Store
THE store for Patriots!
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Stop Aid to Israel

IMAGINE YOU ARE A POLITICIAN. A FOREIGN country accepts a man it knows is
wanted for murder to hide in its country. What would you do?

Some would suggest sending in spies to capture the suspect and return him
for trial as the Mossad did to Mordechai Vanunu. Others could suggest
ceasing diplomatic relations or even bombing the rouges, such as President
Reagan did with Libya.

But if you are Bill Clinton, and the rouge nation is question is Israel, you
insist Congress send them $1.2 billion immediately. He also wants to
increase the official amount America gives to the Mideast ministate for
military purposed by $500 million to $2.4 billion.

In return, Israel's new prime minister, Ehud Barak, says he will attempt to
"reinvigorate the [peace] process."

This news came less than a month after accused killer Samuel Sheinbein
admitted to sawing off the arms and legs of a Maryland resident, Enrique
Tello, Jr., then he and an accomplice burnt the corpse.

Sheinbein's attorney had allegedly struck a deal with prosecutors in which
prosecutors would not seek the death penalty in exchange for Sheinbein
agreeing not to fight extradition. Prosecutors kept their end of the deal,
but Sheinbein reneged.

Rather than breaking off diplomatic relations, the Clinton administration
wants to reward Israel, a rich nation, with more cash.

Last year, then House Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Livingston
(R-La.) suggested it was inappropriate for the United States to provide aid
to Israel under these conditions. Livingston resigned in disgrace shortly
after pornographer Larry Flynt aired some of the congressman's dirty
laundry.

In fiscal 2000, economic aid to Israel was supposed to fall slightly in the
second year of an Israeli 10-year initiative to wean itself from the
assistance.

On average, Israel's portion of the foreign operations measure hovers near
40 percent. Outside the Israel lobby, foreign aid has few forceful
constituents. The first policy position the Liberty Lobby Board of Policy
(BOP) voted on, some 43 years ago, was against foreign aid. The BOP remains
true to that position today. Over the years, the rest of the country has
caught on, but politicians have continued to give a fortune away.

Israel has been the leading benefactor of U.S. gifts. In 1951, Congress sent
$65 million to help Israel take in European Jews and Jews living in Arab
countries. Since then, American assistance has seen Israel through the Yom
Kippur War ($2.2 billion in emergency aid) and the Camp David accords ($4.9
billion in aid and loans). Since 1985, Congress has annually provided Israel
with at least $3 billion per year in official grants.

In the meantime:

 U.S. military personnel and their families live on food stamps;

 the Veterans Administration budget have been capped as part of the budget
balanced agreement;

 American farmers are going bankrupt;

 Government schools across the land complain of being underfunded; etc.

You have the opportunity now to contact your representatives is Congress and
encourage them to freeze or eliminate foreign aid. Use the Samuel Sheinbein
case as a blatant example of how Israel abuses America's friendship.

Another example is the Chinese missile crisis. According to an Israeli
publication, The Jerusalem Report dated Aug. 3, 1998, Israeli scientists
breached anti-missile agreements by selling arms with American-made parts to
China. This is a SPOTLIGHT story, that the U.S. media continues to cover up.
But The Jerusalem Report, the defense industry standard bearer,
Britain-based Janes and many other international publications have printed
the information. It is about time Israel and U.S. politicians were held
accountable.

FARMER WOES

A group of 41 House members, led House Agricultural Committee Chairman Larry
Combest (R-Tex.), has apparently fallen on deaf ears at the White House. The
congressmen want President Clinton to submit an emergency funding request to
Congress. They say this is the quickest way to alleviate the problem.

It's not surprising that Congress has taken the lead on finding solutions to
the nation's worsening farm crisis.

The House Agricultural Committee is considering various proposed
agricultural reforms. Among them are H.R. 2395, which would make $5.13
billion available to farmers, and H.R. 1592, the Regulatory 

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] David Icke is a Reptillian Insider]

1999-08-11 Thread Robert Tatman

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 In a message dated 99-08-08 07:01:07 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 :::goes back to reading Goethe:::

 Goethe, member of the Illuminati, and significantly, author of "Faust" ...

O ja...remember Goethe's final words: "Mehr Licht!" (More light!)

VERY interesting

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[CTRL] Fwd: Atlanta-Columbiana (Ala.)-Los Angeles Shootings

1999-08-11 Thread Kris Millegan





8.10.99
Mass Shootings On the 33rd Parallel


Recieved from a reader. Food for thought.

NewsHawk Inc.

= = = = = = = = = = = =
Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Birmingham Ala. are all located along the 33rd parallel.

Dallas, Phoenix, and Truth or Consequences, New Mexico are also along
this parallel. (All hot spots for their mean, wicked, evil deeds)

Remember: JFK Sr. was killed in Trinity Square on the 33rd parallel.

Columbiana, Alabama, where on Aug. 5 Alan Eugene Miller allegedly killed
two co-workers and also third person where Miller used to work, is just
miles from Birmingham and Fort McClellan, Alabama.

They just love to play their games with names and numbers and we all
know that!

Just another "coincidence"..Keep watching, they use the same
old tricks.




[CTRL] SECRET SCIENTIFIC DATA VIOLATES THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW

1999-08-11 Thread Carl Amedio

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SECRET SCIENTIFIC DATA VIOLATES THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW

Policy makers often rely on scientific research, much of which is
funded by the federal government, in making important policy
decisions.  Faulty research can result in bad policy.  For
example:

   o   Scientist Robert Liburdy faked data that resulted in
   costly efforts to mitigate the effects -- later found not
   to exist -- of high-tension electric lines.

   o   The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) tried to impose
   new, expensive and possibly hazardous air quality
   standards based on scientific data it claimed were not
   available for review.

To ensure open access to publicly funded scientific data in the
future, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) inserted a provision into
the Fiscal Year 1999 Omnibus Spending Bill making it available to
the public.  Now a move is afoot to repeal or delay the Shelby
requirement.

Congress directed the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to
draft regulations requiring "Federal awarding agencies to ensure
that all data produced under an award will be made available to
the public through procedures established under the Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA)."  In response, the OMB drafted a narrower
set of regulations requiring only that data from published
federally funded research actually used in developing policies or
rules be made available.

Aside from promoting scientific integrity, the new rules would
promote open government and better informed democratic decision
making.  In addition, it promotes fiscal responsibility.
Regulations cost Americans more than $700 billion, or more than
$6,000 per household, each year (see figure
http://www.ncpa.org/ba/gif/ba304fig.gif ).

Some legislators wish to rescind or delay the Shelby provision.
The late Rep. George Brown (D-Calif.) sponsored a bill to repeal
it, and Reps. David Price (D-N.C.) and James Walsh (R-N.Y.)
attempted to attach an amendment to appropriation bills that
would delay its implementation for a year.

Source: H. Sterling Burnett (NCPA Senior Policy Analyst), "Secret
Disservice: Covering Up Scientific Data Violates the Public's
Right to Know," Brief Analysis No. 304, August 11, 1999, National
Center for Policy Analysis, 12655 N. Central Expy., Suite 720,
Dallas, Texas 75243, (972) 386-6272.

For text http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba304.html

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[CTRL] TRUST THE PEOPLE: THE CASE AGAINST GUN CONTROL [Part 1]

1999-08-11 Thread Bard

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http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa109.html
Policy Analysis No. 109 July 11, 1988



TRUST THE PEOPLE: THE CASE AGAINST GUN CONTROL
by David B. Kopel
David B. Kopel, formerly an assistant district attorney in
Manhattan, is an attorney in Colorado.






Executive Summary

Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into
two parties: 1) Those who fear and distrust the people
. . . . 2) Those who identify themselves with the
people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider
them as the most honest and safe . . . depository of
the public interest.
-- Thomas Jefferson


Few public policy debates have been as dominated by emotion
and misinformation as the one on gun control. Perhaps this
debate is so highly charged because it involves such fundamental
issues. The calls for more gun restrictions or for bans on some
or all guns are calls for significant change in our social and
constitutional systems.

Gun control is based on the faulty notion that ordinary
American citizens are too clumsy and ill-tempered to be trusted
with weapons. Only through the blatant abrogation of explicit
constitutional rights is gun control even possible. It must be
enforced with such violations of individual rights as intrusive
search and seizure. It most severely victimizes those who most
need weapons for self-defense, such as blacks and women.

The various gun control proposals on today's agenda--
including licensing, waiting periods, and bans on so-called
Saturday night specials--are of little, if any, value as crime-
fighting measures. Banning guns to reduce crime makes as much
sense as banning alcohol to reduce drunk driving. Indeed,
persuasive evidence shows that civilian gun ownership can be a
powerful deterrent to crime.

The gun control debate poses the basic question: Who is
more trustworthy, the government or the people?

Guns and Crime

Guns as a Cause of Crime

Gun control advocates--those who favor additional legal
restrictions on the availability of guns or who want to outlaw
certain types of guns--argue that the more guns there are, the
more crime there will be. As a Detroit narcotics officer put
it, "Drugs are X; the number of guns in our society is Y; the
number of kids in possession of drugs is Z. X plus Y plus Z
equals an increase in murders."[1] But there is no simple
statistical correlation between gun ownership and homicide or
other violent crimes. In the first 30 years of this century,
U.S. per capita handgun ownership remained stable, but the
homicide rate rose tenfold.[2] Subsequently, between 1937 and
1963, handgun ownership rose by 250 percent, but the homicide
rate fell by 35.7 percent.[3]

Switzerland, through its militia system, distributes both
pistols and fully automatic assault rifles to all adult males and
requires them to store their weapons at home. Further, civilian
long-gun purchases are essentially unregulated, and handguns are
available to any adult without a criminal record or mental
defect. Nevertheless, Switzerland suffers far less crime per
capita than the United States and almost no gun crime.

Allowing for important differences between Switzerland and
the United States, it seems clear that there is no direct link
between the level of citizen gun ownership and the level of gun
misuse. Instead of simplistically assuming that the fewer guns
there are, the safer society will be, one should analyze the
particular costs and benefits of gun ownership and gun control
and consider which groups gain and lose from particular policies.


Guns as a Tool against Crime

Several years ago the National Institute of Justice offered
a grant to the former president of the American Sociological
Association to survey the field of research on gun control.
Peter Rossi began his work convinced of the need for strict
national gun control. After looking at the data, however, Rossi
and his University of Massachusetts colleagues James Wright and
Kathleen Daly concluded that there was no convincing proof that
gun control curbs crime.[4] A follow-up study by Wright and
Rossi of serious felons in American prisons provided further
evidence that gun control would not impede determined crimi-
nals.[5] It also indicated that civilian gun ownership does
deter some crime. Three-fifths of the prisoners studied said
that a criminal would not attack a potential victim who was
known to be armed. Two-fifths of them had decided not to commit
a crime because they thought the victim might have a gun.
Criminals in states with higher civilian gun ownership rates
worried the most about armed victims.

Real-world experiences validate the sociologists' findings.
In 1966 the police in Orlando, Florida, responded to a rape
epidemic by embarking on a highly publicized program to train
2,500 women in firearm use. The next year rape fell by 88
percent in Orlando (the only major city to experience a decrease
that year); 

[CTRL] TRUST THE PEOPLE: THE CASE AGAINST GUN CONTROL [Part 2]

1999-08-11 Thread Bard

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http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa109.html

Gun Licensinq

Although opinion polls indicate that most Americans favor
some form of gun licensing (for the same reasons they approve of
auto licensing), 69 percent of Americans oppose laws giving the
police power to decide who may or may not own a firearm.[142]
That is exactly what licensing is. Permits tend to be granted
not to those who are most at risk but to those with whom the
police get along. In St. Louis, for example, permits have
routinely been denied to homosexuals, nonvoters, and wives who
lack their husbands' permission.[143] Other police departments
have denied permits on the basis of race, sex, and political
affiliation, or by determining that hunting or target shooting
is not an adequate reason for owning a handgun.

Class discrimination pervades the process. New York City
taxi drivers, who are more at risk of robbery than anyone else in
the city, are denied gun permits, since they carry less than
$2,000 in cash. (Of course, most taxi drivers carry weapons
anyway, and only rookie police officers arrest them for doing
so.) As the courts have ruled, ordinary citizens and storeowners
in the city may not receive so-called carry permits because they
have no greater need for protection than anyone else in the
city.[144] Carry permits are apparently reserved for New Yorkers
such as the Rockefellers, John Lindsay, the publisher of the New
York Times, (all of them gun control advocates), and the husband
of Dr. Joyce Brothers.[145] Other licensees include an aide to a
city councilman widely regarded as corrupt, several major
slumlords, a Teamsters Union boss who is a defendant in a major
racketeering suit, and a restaurateur identified with organized
crime and alleged to control important segments of the hauling
industry--hardly proof that licensing restricts gun ownership to
upstanding citizens.[146]

The licensing process can be more than a minor imposition on
the purchaser of a gun. In Illinois the automated licensing
system takes 60 days to authorize a clearance.[147] Although New
Jersey law requires that the authorities act on gun license
applications within 30 days, delays of 90 days are routine; some
applications are delayed for years, for no valid reason.[148]
Licensing fees may be raised so high as to keep guns out of the
hands of the poor. Until recently Dade County, Florida, which
includes Miami, charged $500 for a license; nearby Monroe County
charged $2,000.[149] These excessive fees on a means of self-
defense are the equivalent of a poll tax. Or licensing may
simply turn into prohibition. Mayor Richard Hatcher of Gary,
Indiana, ordered his police department never to give anyone
license application forms.[150] The police department in New
York City has refused to issue legally required licenses, even
when commanded by courts to do so. The department has also
refused to even hand out blank application forms.[151]

In addition to police abuse of licensing discretion, there
is also the problem of the massive data collection that would
result from a comprehensive licensing scheme. For example, New
York City asks a pistol permit applicant:

Have you ever . . . Been discharged from
any employment?

Been subpoenaed to, or attended [!] a
hearing or inquiry conducted by any
executive, legislative, or judicial body?

Been denied appointment in a civil service
system, Federal, State, Local?

Had any license or permit issued to you by
any City, State, or Federal Agency?

Applicants for a business premises gun permit in New York
City must also supply personal income-tax returns, daily bank
deposit slips, and bank statements. Photocopies are not accep-
table. A grocer in the South Bronx may wonder what the size ofhis bank
deposits has to do with his right to protection.

The same arguments that lead one to reject a national
identity card apply to federal gun licensing. A national
licensing system would require the collection of dossiers on half
the households in the United States (or a quarter, for handgun-
only record-keeping).
Implementing national gun licensing would make introduction
of a national identity card more likely. Assuming that a large
proportion of American families would become accustomed to the
government collecting extensive data about them, they would
probably not oppose making everyone else go through the same
procedures for a national identity card.

Finally, licensing is not going to stop determined
criminals. The most thorough study of the weapons behavior of
felony prisoners (the Wright-Rossi project funded by the National
Institute of Justice) found that five-sixths of the felons did
not buy their handguns from a retail outlet anyway. (Many of the
rest used a legal, surrogate buyer, such as a girlfriend.)[152]
As noted above, felons have little trouble buying stolen guns on
the streets. In sum, it remains to be proven that gun licensing
would significantly reduce crime. Given the very clear civil
liberties problems 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3

1999-08-11 Thread Para

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At 10:26 11/08/99 -0700, you wrote:

# Uproar Over Phallic Beacon Statue. RIO DE JANEIRO (Reuters) Plans to build
  a glowing sculpture that looks like a phallus in Recife Brazil has plunged
  the port city into such an uproar that its gun-toting mayor even stormed a
  newspaper and threatened to kill the art critic and a gossip columnist. In
  your dreams: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/07/odd-life-phallus

: What shapes are your belief system's holy/cultural icons? Do you worship
human/animal/alien/robotic genitalia? Is the crucifix phallic, the rosary
vaginal? Do you prefer genital icons, other anatomical forms, abstractions?
Would you like to kill any art critics, gossipers, politicos, aliens, me??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Well if there was ever a town that needed a 'Glowing Phallic Sculpture' then
Recife has to be that the place.

With men out numbered something like 20/1, on my last visit, probably more
now,
the 'glowing' will help the lovelorn find their way to nirvana.

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[CTRL] Ollie On Columbia

1999-08-11 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From NewsMax.CoM


 PicturePicture: NewsMax.com

 Losing A Secret War Oliver NorthAugust 11, 1999

 WASHINGTON -- On July 30th, the remains of two dead American
 soldiers were brought home from Colombia under the cover of
 darkness to Dover Air Force Base. At 3:00 a.m. in the morning on
 August 3rd, another dead American officer, Captain Jennifer Odom
 was brought home in the dead of night. Unlike the days of Ronald
 Reagan and George Bush, who greeted the return of U.S. military
 personnel who died serving our country, Bill Clinton chose not to
 attend.

 It was as if no one at the White House wanted word to spread that
 five more Americans had lost their lives fighting a secret war in
 Colombia; a country which produces more cocaine and heroin than
 any other nation on earth. They apparently don't want us to know
 that we are also on the verge of losing the world's most
 threatened democracy to terrorists funded by the drug trade; and
 that all of this has gotten worse since Bill Clinton was elected.

 That's not to say that Bill Clinton deserves all the blame.
 Colombia has been wracked by narco-terrorism for more than three
 decades. But the Clinton administration has done little to
 improve the situation. When Ernesto Samper was elected president
 in 1994 with a campaign financed by Colombian drug traffickers,
 the Clinton State Department rightly decertified Colombia as an
 ally in America's war on drugs. But instead of quietly acting to
 strengthen democratic forces in Colombia, the Administration
 passively watched as drug violence escalated, and nearly half of
 Colombia fell under the control of narco-insurgents who have
 waged a campaign of terror against the government.

 In May of 1998, Colombians elected a new president; Andres
 Pastrana, the Conservative Party leader. His campaign focused on
 ending the threat of FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of
 Colombia) violence and taking forceful action against the drug
 trade. But promised support from Washington never materialized,
 leaving Pastrana little choice but to pursue a policy of
 appeasement and negotiation; a strategy advocated by Clinton's
 State Department. The result: increased violence and a 30 percent
 jump in the drug trade.

 Today, ten American citizens are missing, dead, or being held
 hostage by narco-terrorists in Colombia. An estimated 450
 Colombian police and soldiers are now being held captive by the
 FARC. Thousands more have been killed in FARC ambushes, bombings
 and terrorist raids. Last month, FARC's boldest, bloodiest
 offensive to date moved battle lines to within 18 miles of
 Bogota, Colombia's capital. More than 118 soldiers and policemen
 were killed within the span of four days. And throughout, Bill
 Clinton's policies have exacerbated a deteriorating situation.

 The administration's zeal for protecting human rights in Colombia
 and its unwillingness to support honest and courageous efforts
 like those of Colombian anti-drug chief Rosso Jose Serrano, have
 left the government in Bogota little choice but to bargain with
 the narco-terrorists.

 As the growing carnage demonstrates, it is an approach doomed to
 failure. White House Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey was in Bogota when
 the bodies of the most recent American dead were being recovered
 from the wreckage of their spy plane. He returned to talk about
 drug rehab and education efforts, but offered little by way of
 advice on how to keep Colombia from descending into
 narco-anarchy.

 Absent reasonable help from Clinton, McCaffrey, or anyone else in
 the White House who claims not to have inhaled, President
 Pastrana may look to one of his Andean neighbors for a way out of
 his quagmire; the "Fujimori Solution." In Peru, where drugs and
 terrorist insurgency had plagued the political climate for
 decades, President Alberto Fujimori declared war on the
 traffickers, and he meant it. It was a head-on confrontation so
 brutal that many nations condemned him for violating of the
 guerillas' human rights! But Fujimori's war against the Sendero
 Luminoso insurgency worked.

 Unfortunately, the situation in Colombia has deteriorated to
 levels President Fujimori never faced in Peru. President
 Pastrana's efforts to eradicate narco-insurgency and terrorism
 from Colombia by negotiation have failed. If we really do care
 about human rights and the survival of a South American
 democracy, we had better get engaged in a hurry.

 As Robert Charles of the House Criminal Justice and Drug Policy
 Subcommittee explained to me: "Congress has been trying to get
 the Clinton Administration to focus on Colombia for the past half
 decade. The instability we're seeing in Colombia is, to a large
 extent, the result of Administration flip-flops, delays,
 indifference and a general failure of resolve."

 Unlike many other places where Bill Clinton has dispatched
 American military forces, America's vital interests are
 threatened by what's happening in Colombia. 

[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Wednesday, August 111, 1999

1999-08-11 Thread CobolMage

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   JOHNSON TO RODHAM, WHITE HOUSE -- YOU CAN DO SOMETHING TO
   END DISCRIMINATORY SCOUT PRACTICES

If letters, faxes and press releases don't help, maybe a word to the
in-laws will.

Last night during an appearance on the ABC network program
"Politically Incorrect," American Atheists President Ellen Johnson
discussed the discriminatory policies of the Boy Scouts of America
with respect to their exclusion of atheists, homosexuals and others,
and urged co-panelist Tony Rodham to pass the word -- tell your
brother-in-law that as "Honorary President" of BSA, he can do
something to change that organization's practices.

Rodham is brother to First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.  President
Bill Clinton continues a long tradition where the commander-in-chief
also serves as Honorary President of the Boy Scouts of America.

The debate over the scouting organization has intensified in the wake
of lawsuits challenging the discriminatory practices of the BSA which
require applicants to swear a religious oath and be of "morally
straight" character.  Those stipulations have been used to exclude gay
and atheist youngsters, a policy which critics say conflicts with
other parts of the BSA's positive mission.  Plaintiffs who have taken
the Boy Scouts to court argue that the standards are also
discriminatory, and that as a "public accommodation" the BSA is
violating federal and state civil rights statutes.

Atheists throughout the country have argued against BSA policies, and
the involvement of public institutions such as schools in promoting
the scouting program.  In Oregon, atheist activist Nancy Powell has
been challenging officials and insisting that by permitting
exclusionary groups like the scouts to recruit in local schools, they
are perpetuating discrimination.  Chicago-area civil rights activist
Rob Sherman has urged government agencies which sponsor BSA units to
end their affiliation, and Pennsylvania atheist Margaret Downey has
unsuccessfully tried to alter scout policies through the courts.

One crucial legal issue is whether organizations like the Boy Scouts
are a private group or "public accommodation" which is thus subject to
anti-discrimination laws.  While the BSA says that no one is compelled
to join the scouting group, critics point to a close relationship
between the Boy Scouts and local government agencies including
schools, fire and police departments which "sponsor" scout units.
"I'm not trying to tell private organizations what they should or
should not do," Ellen Johnson told AANEWS following last night's
"Politically Incorrect" appearance.  "But it's hypocritical to say to
youngsters that it's OK to associate during the regular school day
with certain kids who happen to be gay, or atheists, then exclude them
from scout meetings because of sexual or philosophical differences."
Johnson said that the exclusionary BSA policies "show that the
Scouting organization needs to enter the twentieth century and
catch-up with the other institution in American society which have
made an effort to become more tolerant and inclusive."

"You shouldn't be excluding millions of kids because of their sexual
orientation, or the fact that they don't go to church," Johnson added.

Last Wednesday, the New Jersey Supreme Court ruled that the Boy Scouts
were indeed a public accommodation and that exclusion of homosexual
boys or leaders violated state anti-discrimination laws.  State high
courts in California, Oregon, Connecticut and Kansas, however, have
differed and consider the BSA to be a strictly private group.  The New
Jersey case was brought by a former Eagle Scout and assistant scout
master who was expelled from the BSA in 1990 after local scouting
leaders learned that he was also a gay rights activist.  James Dale,
now 29, found his experiences with the Boy Scouts to be a valuable
learning process, though, and says that the scouts "taught me a long
time ago the difference between right and wrong.  Nine years ago, I
was kicked out of the program, I knew it was wrong."

The Scouts are mulling an appeal in the New Jersey case.  BSA
spokesman Greg Shields told reporters last 

[CTRL] Slovakian Aspirations

1999-08-11 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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 August 11, 1999

 Slovakia Becomes Boring
 By Juraj Lisiak

 Although not yet officially appointed, New Yorker Carl Spielvogel
 will in all likelihood be the next United States Ambassador to
 the Slovak Republic, replacing his long-reining predecessor,
 Ralph Johnson. Approved by the Senate Foreign Relations
 Committee, Spielvogel sailed through the sometimes laborious
 committee process along with a dozen other Clinton appointees.

 Before he can claim his diplomatic passport and have the
 privilege of skipping long lines at customs, his nomination must
 first get rubber stamped by an official Senate vote. Most
 political pundits predict that the issues behind the
 filibustering that has delayed the vote so far will be worked out
 by the end of the summer. However, since ambassadorial
 recommendations come directly from the embattled President,
 political shenanigans could possibly delay congressional approval
 in the Republican-controlled Senate.

 Spielvogel hopes not. He and his wife, Barbara Lee
 Diamondstein-Spielvogel, have dished out over two hundred
 thousand dollars to the President as well as the Democratic Party
 and, understandably, want to see some return on their hefty
 investment. Spielvogel was appointed to the Broadcasting Board of
 Governors (a Senate-appointed panel dealing with broadcasting)
 and did have the pleasure of sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom at
 the White House, but for that kind of money, one expects a better
 deal.

 Being addressed as "Ambassador Spielvogel" should about do it. Of
 course, money's not really an issue for a man who runs one of the
 largest car dealership franchises in the U.S., the United Auto
 Group. A graduate of Baruch College in New York, Spielvogel is
 considered one of the leading business executives in the country.

 He and his wife are also part of the New York cultural circuit,
 having hosted their share of glitterati and served enough lobster
 bisque and shrimp cocktail to be certified as fishmongers. Maybe
 when he is not attending the board meetings and executive
 luncheons of the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Lincoln Centre
 for the Performing Arts, the Philharmonic Symphony Society of New
 York, Mt Sinai Hospital or Eureka Communities charity, he will
 have time to stop over in Bratislava.

 It is also very doubtful that Spielvogel will learn the Slovak
 language any time soon, and his stay in Slovakia will most
 probably be counted in weeks rather than months.

 Johnson, who previously served as Coordinator for Assistance to
 Eastern Europe and who ascended through the ranks of the Foreign
 Service, is very unlike his successor. Primarily because of his
 experience and ability, Johnson was sent to co-ordinate the clean
 up in Slovakia, that is, get rid of Meciar. Now that he has
 succeeded he has been shipped off to another European backwater,
 the Balkans.

 Highly involved, an astute troubleshooter and, most importantly,
 very discreet, Johnson was cognizant of both Slovak culture and
 language. He was a professional by both training and experience
 and he advanced U.S. interests in Slovakia with finesse.

 Spielvogel will not be able to live up to his predecessor
 precisely because he is in a completely different category. Lower
 level diplomatic personnel will carry out most of the substantive
 work, and Spielvogel's main task will be to read the cue cards
 and maybe even to pronounce a couple words in Slovak. Surely, he
 will manage that without fumbling.

 Reportedly having refused an ambassadorship to a Baltic country
 not too long ago, Spielvogel looks settled on the fact that this
 is the most political mileage he will be getting for his
 financial support of the President. Heading a diplomatic mission
 to a relatively civilized European country continues to be one of
 the trinkets of splurging some of your wealth in the political
 arena. Of course, such appointments are not always without
 controversy as James Hormel, the openly homosexual Ambassador to
 Luxembourg, found out.

 Yet the symbolism of this appointment shouldn't be
 underestimated. The richest, most powerful country in the world
 no longer considers Slovakia a problematic nation in need of a
 diplomatic babysitter but regards it merely as another chip to be
 handed out to supporting political factions. While all diplomatic
 appointments are political to a certain degree, there is a sharp
 distinction between appointing a diplomatically experienced
 ambassador, such as Johnson, and sending a mere figurehead
 ambassador with no formal training, such as Spielvogel.

 Slovakia has graduated from the ranks of Belarus, Croatia and
 Romania, where professional appointments are still necessary, to
 a higher level: a relatively stable nation where the US
 ambassador doesn't have to worry about getting stuck in
 internationally sensitive situations.

 Reprinted with permission from Central Europe Review



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[CTRL] Fw: [sn-vesti 21426] Picnic

1999-08-11 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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The Committee for National Solidarity
Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU

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 From: Rade Petrovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [sn-vesti 21426] Picnic
 Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 3:30 AM

 Things have not improved at all since the end of the war with NATO. On
 the  contrary, the  situation  is approaching catastrophic proportions
 for over  150,000 Serbian and  other non-albanian refugees from Kosovo
 and over 600,000 refugees  from the 1991-95  wars who are living under
 highly  difficult conditions, as well  as for other citizens of Serbia
 who are facing a  harsh and cold  winter without heat and electricity.
 In addition, hospitals  in Serbia are  in a very difficult  situation.
 They lack basic medicines and supplies, and  critical equipment is out
 of order due  to the lack of  funds for spare parts.  In order to help
 the refugees and hospitals:

 Serbian American Alliance of New England (SANE) invites you to the

S U M M E R   P I C N I C


 Day and date:Sunday, August 22, 1999

 Time:1:00 pm

 Place:   Arsenal Park (right behind Arsenal Mall), Watertown, MA
  (directions are enclosed)

 Suggested donation for lunch: $12 (adults and children over 12), $7
 (students).
 Besides this, direct donations are welcome.

 ALL  proceeds from  the picnic  will be  sent as humanitarian  aid for
 refugees and hospitals in Serbia. All donations are tax deductible.

 The new SANE project - aid for children of refugees from Kosovo

 We are   urgently collecting: strollers,  packplay's, clothes for
 children  of  all ages, toys   (please only small  ones), school stuff
 (crayons, markers, pens,  notebooks, coloring books), baby bottles and
 pacifiers, and baby food.

 If you have anything from this list that your  children are not using,
 or if  you  want to buy  new  things, please bring  everything  to the
 picnic.  We would kindly ask you that the clothes be clean.

 Please inform as many friends as possible about the picnic. It is very
 important  that as many people as  possible come to the picnic. People
 of Serbia need urgent help!

 **

 DIRECTIONS TO ARSENAL PARK (courtesy of Jelena Jovin):

 Approximate address of the park: 475 Arsenal Street, Watertown, MA

 Approximate Location: In the rear of Marshall's in Arsenal Mall

 **

 From I-93:

 1. Take I-93 South
 2. Take the RT-60 exit (0.2 miles)
 3. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto SALEM ST. (0.1 miles)
 4. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT at the intersection of RT 60 E to stay on SALEM ST.
 (0.2 miles)
 5. Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto MAIN ST. (0.1 miles)
 6. Take the RT-16 WEST ramp. (0.1 miles)
 7. Merge onto MYSTIC VALLEY PKWY. (1.1 miles)
 8. Turn RIGHT onto unnamed roundabout. 0.0
 9. Turn RIGHT onto ALEWIFE BROOK PKWY. 0.0
 10. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT at the intersection of GORDON ST to stay on ALEWIFE
 BROOK PKWY. (0.2 miles)
 11. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT at the intersection of STERLING ST to stay on
ALEWIFE
 BROOK PKWY. (0.2 miles)
 12. ALEWIFE BROOK PKWY becomes unnamed roundabout. (0.1 miles)
 13. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto ALEWIFE BROOK PKWY. (1.7  miles)
 14. ALEWIFE BROOK PKWY becomes unnamed roundabout. 0.0
 15. Stay straight to go onto CONCORD AVE. (0.1  miles)
 16. CONCORD AVE becomes RT 16 W. (0.1 miles)
 17. RT 16 W becomes unnamed roundabout. 0.0
 18. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto FRESH POND PKWY. (0.1 miles)
 19. FRESH POND PKWY becomes RT 16. (0.4 miles)
 20. Stay straight to go onto FRESH POND PKWY. (0.3 miles)
 21. FRESH POND PKWY becomes RT 2 E. (0.4 miles)
 22. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto GERRYS LANDING RD. (0.1 miles)
 23. GERRYS LANDING RD becomes GREENOUGH BLVD. (1.2 miles)
 24. Turn RIGHT onto ARSENAL ST. (0.7 miles)
 25. Park is on the left, after Arsenal Mall

 From Rt. 2:
 1. Take Rt 2 East (to Arlington, Cambridge)
 2. go to the end of highway, turn RIGHT at the light
 3. you are at Alewife Brook Pkwy, follow directions from 12. above

 From I-90:
 1. I-90 TOLL E.
 2. Take the exit for Centre St., Newton, merge onto CENTRE ST. (0.2
miles)
 4. Turn SLIGHT LEFT onto unnamed road. 0.0
 5. Turn LEFT onto CENTRE ST. (0.2 miles)
 6. CENTRE ST becomes GALEN ST. (0.4 miles)
 7. Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto US-20. (0.1 miles)
 8. Stay straight to go onto ARSENAL ST. (1.0 miles)

 From EAST:
 1. follow Charles River from Boston to Cambridge, pass the intersection
with
 JFK Street (bridge is going to be on your left),
 follow the river further (Watertown signs) until you reach Arsenal
Street,
 whose left part crosses the bridge, and then turn RIGHT

Secretary General
Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
Art  historian

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[CTRL] Bill Dorich's column in LMT.

1999-08-11 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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 Subject: SN296:Bill Dorich's column in LMT.
 Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:23 PM


 As published in the Lewiston (Idaho) Morning Tribune:

 Tuesday, August 10, 1999

 TURNABOUT/WILLIAM DORICH ... Government,
 press unfairly blame Serbs

 Dorich is a Los Angeles writer on Serb issues

 As a first generation American, I am the author of numerous books on
Balkan
 history including my 1992 book titled "Kosovo."
 Even my Muslim critics have praised the quality of my work. (See text on
 www.srpska-mreza.com.) As a correspondent for The
 American Srbobran, the oldest Serbian newspaper in the United States, my
 articles have appeared in numerous major newspapers.

 I have been called a lot of names in recent years; therefore Jim Fisher
 referring to me in his editorial as "rabid" [Aug. 2] came as
 no surprise -- Serbs have grown accustomed to such bigoted terminology in
much
 the same way they have had to endure the
 assignment of collective guilt. Considering the amount of omission
journalism
 regarding Serbia, Mr. Fisher's characterization of me
 was void of any details so the readers had no choice but to draw the same
 conclusion.

 I am a victim of "ethnic cleansing." In 1897, Albanians "cleansed" my
 grandparents from Kosovo. They resettled in Croatia where
 my father was born. Before he reached his 12th birthday his family was
 "cleansed" once again, this time by Croatians in World
 War I -- they came to the United States as "displaced persons."

 During World War II, in the village of Vojnic, Croatian Nazis burned 17
members
 of my family to death in the Serbian Orthodox
 Church. In 1995 during the Bosnian Civil War, I lost the last five
relatives to
 my name. Most were too old and too sick to flee --
 they were found a year later with their throats slit.

 Therefore, I suggest that Jim Fisher's description of my hostility as
"rabid"
 was self-serving. Expecting me to have a "dispassionate
 view" of this history as a double victim of genocide is a typical
editorial
 stretch.

 Arrogantly, I am supposed to believe that the real "dispassionate" views
of
 these wars are taking place in the media that continues
 to ignore the 1.2 million Serbs cleansed from Croatia and Bosnia who have
been
 prevented from returning to their homes now for
 nearly four years. Selective journalism is repugnant. So, too, is
selective
 justice.

 Last fall in the village of Klecka, the Kosovo Liberation Army killed 22
Serbs.
 Their bodies were dismembered and burned in an
 oven -- a hideous duplication of the horrors of the Holocaust in which
Croats,
 Bosnian Muslims and Kosovo Albanians helped
 Hitler liquidate 1.7 million Serbs.

 After the Klecka massacre there was no outcry from Madeleine Albright.
NATO was
 too busy plotting a pretext to bomb the
 Serbs and our commander in chief was too distracted with his Monica
problem to
 notice. There was also no mention of the "never
 again" theory.

 Atrocities committed against Serbs have been treated in the press as
"deserved"
 while collective guilt against the Serbs has been a
 major weapon of the State Department in dismembering a sovereign nation
in
 violation of numerous international laws and treaties.

 Mr. Fisher cannot have it both ways. Collective guilt has been fine-tuned
to the
 point that Serbs are now fair game. Implying that I
 am "intolerant" because I dare to have the audacity to speak out about
the
 Muslim practice of Jihad (holy war) and to be outraged
 by the double standards of my government officials who resort to racist
 terminology is hypocritical.

 I am confident there are many fine Muslim people, but why have all of
them
 remained silent about the World Trade Center
 bombing, the downing of the TWA aircraft, the brutal slaughter of our
troops in
 Dhahran and the murder of our embassy
 employees? The silence from their imams, scholars, authors and
influential
 leaders is offensive.

 Since the arrival of NATO "peacekeepers" in Kosovo, the KLA has destroyed
49
 Serbian churches, burned hundreds of Serbian
 homes and expelled 160,000 Serbs. Now the KLA is attacking Turks, Greeks,
 Gypsies and Albanian Roman Catholics who stand
 in the way of an ethnically pure, gangster-controlled Muslim Kosovo.

 On July 6, Sens. Carl Levin, Jack Reed, Mary Landrieu and Jeff Sessions
went to
 Kosovo, where they met with Hasim Thaci, the
 head of the KLA. The Albanian press stated: "American senators call Thaci
the
 George Washington of Kosovo." What
 blasphemy. George Washington did not kill six of his lieutenants to
maintain
 power!

 It has become rather obvious that the United States, the State Department
and
 NATO have climbed into bed with the Albanian
 Mafia. To what depth have they made democracy stoop?



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Re: [CTRL] Looking behind the Bushes

1999-08-11 Thread Sno0wl

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On 7 Aug 99, , Kris wrote:

 Looking behind
 the Bushes


 Little noted or little remembered moments in the life of George Bush
 Sr., his family, and his pals
 
 This article appeared in the Progressive Review during the 1992 campaign



You really gotta give these guys credit for getting things done...and getting away with
it,. too. No questions asked.


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FROM AN OP ED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES BY YALE LAW PROFESSOR IAN AYRES: As a
handful of state wiretapping laws are now written, the crime is creating an
unimpeachable record of a conversation. The laws certainly don't protect
anyone's privacy, since the substance of the late-night Lewinsky-Tripp chat
sessions could have been divulged. If you think about it, the only thing the
law protected was Ms. Lewinsky's option of misrepresenting what she said
 It is bizarre to have a law that protects a person's privacy only if he
lies about what he said. Maybe that's why secretly taping calls is legal in
38 states (though not in Maryland, where Ms. Tripp lives).

THE BATTLE OF THE EPIGONS

Speaking to a Baptist group, Al Gore described his father as having
"supported the Voting Rights Act in 1965 and lost his next re-election. But
his conscience won and he taught me that was more important than any
election." In fact, as the National Review points out, Gore Sr. lost his
seat to Bill Brock, who had voted for the Voting Rights Act of 1965 as a
member of the House. Incidentally, Gore Sr. opposed the Civil Rights Act of
1964 and earlier civil rights legislation.

LA TIMES: At the private meeting with potential donors, Gore distanced
himself from the federal inquiry into Hollywood's marketing of violent
movies launched recently by President Clinton. Participants said Gore made
clear that the government study -- disparaged by some in Hollywood as a
witch hunt --was the president's idea, not his, and was initiated without
his input."

CORRECTION

The Reagan-appointed judge mentioned yesterday is Douglas Howard Ginsburg,
not Ginsberg

THE MEDIACRATS

COKIE ROBERTS ON THE IMUS SHOW: "I can't get over it, I really, I've known
Al Gore since the day he was born and he's never done anything bad in his
life. He's been the best boy. And you know, for him to be the person getting
caught in Bill Clinton's problems is the textbook example of Life's Not
Fair. I mean, I keep thinking he must be thinking to himself, 'I could have
had more fun in college,' you know. But he is being caught in it and to the
degree, the poll numbers are just awful."

THE HIGH ON COKE

The Washington Post's Howard Kurtz joins those trying to make a campaign
issue out of George Bush Jr.'s past cocaine use while maintaining the media
code of silence about W.J. Clinton's much deeper involvement in the coke
culture. Kurtz' spin continues the fiction that the only drug questions
about Clinton concerned his use of marijuana while a student.

Interestingly, Kurtz also writes: "Questions about the personal lives of
candidates have become far more common in the hyper-competitive media
climate of the '90s. But they are often triggered by specific allegations,
such as when Gennifer Flowers charged in 1992 that she had had a
long-running affair with candidate Bill Clinton." Kurtz is apparently
unaware of Flowers' more recent allegation that Clinton offered her cocaine.

More important that the political double-standard, though, is the fact that
not only are both leading presidential candidates former users of drugs for
which hundreds of thousands of Americans have received criminal penalties,
including draconian prison sentence, but that the incumbent was closely
connected to major Arkansas drug operatives.

Here's how Kurtz brushes off this issue: "Other politicians, including Vice
President Gore, have acknowledged past marijuana use with no apparent
penalty. But an admission of having tried cocaine, the focus of major
federal anti-drug initiatives and much inner-city violence, could be more
problematic."

For one person to end up in prison for years for doing what someone else can
do and still be elected president is not problematic, it is obscene.

THE CULTURE OF IMPUNITY

FAIR: In a major relaxation of broadcast ownership rules, the Federal
Communications Commission has announced it will allow networks to own two TV
stations in the same city. Previously, the FCC limited a network or other

[CTRL] Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/11/99

1999-08-11 Thread CobolMage

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X DRUDGE REPORT X WED, AUGUST 11, 1999 18:08:44 ET X

TABLOID: GINGRICH 'LIVING' WITH YOUNG CONGRESSIONAL AIDE; PICTURE OF DUO
HOLDING HANDS

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich has been romantically linked with
a young congressional aide, a tabloid will report next week.

Just weeks after beginning divorce proceedings, Gingrich, 56, has been
photographed with the woman, 33, walking hand-in-hand, from his apartment to
a restaurant.

STAR magazine's Richard Gooding is set to report that Gingrich has been
linked with the woman since 1995 --  when he became speaker.

The NEW YORK DAILY NEWS is considering a Page One placement of the story,
and photo, for Thursday editions, according to newspaper sources.

[Alleged L.A. gunman Buford O'Neal Furrow was Gingrich's competition as this
transmits.]

"If he was secretly dating her during Clinton's impeachment, and this is why
he ultimately left congress, we've got a great story," one DAILY NEWS source
explained when asked about the news value of Gingrich's romantic life.

Gingrich was asked about the relationship as he walked hand-in-hand with the
woman to dinner one night last week, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Gingrich brushed off the reporter and said:  "No questions."

The WASHINGTON POST was been hot on Gingrich for more than a month,
according to newsroom insiders, but the paper was holding off trying to find
a rationale to run the story.

"We have not been able to prove that he gave up the speakership [over
this]," one POST source said.

The woman was first named in a September '95 VANITY FAIR piece by Gail
Sheehy as his "frequent breakfast companion."

Developing...

 X X X X X



CONTROVERSY ERUPTS OVER SPIKED HARDBALL SEGMENT; HILLARY PAL ACCUSED STARR
MAN OF BEING THROWN IN JAIL!

**Exclusive**

On Monday's HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS, Lisa Caputo, Hillary Clinton's
close pal and former press secretary, appeared as a guest to discuss Ken
Starr's TODAY SHOW interview.

In a taped-for-air segment that is now the talk of Washington, Caputo wildly
proclaimed that Charles Bakaly,
Starr's former spokesman, is currently rotting in jail!

Caputo used Bakaly to make the point that Starr's team is out of control and
is ethically challenged.

During the segment Caputo was pressed on the veracity of her allegation,
which she repeatedly stood by.

According to NBC insiders, the allegation was met with serious doubt by CNBC
host Matthews, who a week earlier had fielded an even wilder allegation by
Gennifer Flowers -- that Bill Clinton is a murderer.

While Flowers' potentially libelous allegation made it on air, Caputo's did
not!

The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that after the segment ended, calls were made
that refuted Caputo's assertion beyond a doubt.

As a result, Caputo's fellow HARDBALL guests -- Major Garrett, Arianna
Huffington, Phil Martin and Lois Romano -- were then informed that there
would be a retape of the segment.

Viewers would never see Caputo stating that Bakaly is currently in prison
for his conduct in the Lewinsky probe.

When asked about the incident on Wednesday, one HARDBALL producer
unequivocally denied that the Caputo episode  had been taped in the first
place.

The producer stated that Caputo's Bakaly/jail reference came during a break,
and that no retaping was necessary because tape was not rolling.

But has the HARDBALL producer been caught playing a bad game of trickball?

Guest Phil Martin, a reporter for the ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE, confirmed
that the Caputo segment was definitely shot and that a retape was
immediately ordered by CNBC producers.

Martin recalls that during the break, he did hear Caputo apologizing for her
statement when she was informed that Bakaly was a free man.

Take Two.
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[CTRL] JOIN THE NAACA AND STOP CONSTITUTIONAL ABUSES NOW!

1999-08-11 Thread Bill Richer

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STOP ALL FEDERAL ABUSES NOW
SAFAN NO. 1294.  AUGUST 11, 1999

JOIN THE NAACA AND STOP CONSTITUTIONAL ABUSES NOW!
by Shirley Beck-Vosse, Memphis, TN

 The NAACA (National Association Against Constitutional Abuses)
is a non-profit, privately funded, non-partisan organization.
 "We the People" Of the United States, under the 10th Amendment of
our Constitution can File Class Action Lawsuits agains:
 1)  The Clinton Administration
 2)  The United Nations
 3)  The News Media  others who have purposely and greatly violated
and illegally abused our constitutional laws.
 Investigative journalist, William Thomas, said on national radio
March 99, that he has documented proof that the government has dropped
(sprayed from the air) germs and chemicals on 239 cities and towns across
the U.S.!  (William Thomas is speaking in Memphis on August 24th)
 We must organize and use our 10th Amendment rights NOW before
we lose them.
 My research has proven that many cases have been won using the
10th Amendment.  I led the fight that completely stopped a 14 state
landfill in Memphis, Tennessee, by organizing people to act on our
constitutional rights.  It does NOT require great sums of money - only
a one issue organization such as NAACA to Stop Constitutional Abuses.
 Unite individuals and group organizations on all levels to join NAACA
at $10 each person, for advertising, attorney fees and to process filing
suits against the three above-named groups.
 The first 1 million charter members who join NAACA at $10.00 per
person would give us automatically $10 million to sponsor ads on radio,
etc., for the purpose of informing the public that we are acting upon our
rights.
 At the strike of midnight December 31, 1999, the U.S. Canal in Panama
will be totally controlled by China and Cuba.  That's right - UNLESS action
is taken now - control will pass from our hands to Panama at which time
control will be given to Hutchison Whampoa of Hong Kong, owned by
Communist Red China.  We CAN stop it.  We must act NOW!
 NAACA attorneys are the answer to expediting ACTION.  But as you
can see we MUST ACT QUICKLY.
 Do not mail checks unless we have your name and number so we can
confirm that we have received your check.  Or call Toll Free to transfer
money into the NAACA First Tennessee Bank Account.  You will receive
a receipt by mail and a membership card as an NAACA member.
 Please copy this and commit to give this to at least 10 people every
single day.  UNITED WE WIN.  GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.

Shirley Beck-Vosse
Toll Free 1-877-438-88760  (1-877-GET US OUT)
National Association Against Constitutional Abuse
976 Wrens Roose Circle #1
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[CTRL] Fw: Trend Virus Report - August Issue # 2

1999-08-11 Thread CobolMage

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**
  V I R U SR E P O R T

  (by Trend US Virus Research Group)
***
---
Date: 08.09.99  Issue: 8.2
---

Issue Preview: VBS_Monopoly, 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild
Viruses, Top Viruses that concern Trend customers,
W97M_YUGOSLAV and TROJ_BO2K.PLUG

***

1. Another Melissa re-write: VBS_MONOPOLY

If there was a popularity contest for viruses, we would
have to give the most recent Award to the Melissa virus.
In recent weeks, we have seen several viruses inspired by
Melissa. Among the most recent ones is VBS_MONOPOLY, a
rewrite of Melissa in Visual Basic Script language.
Just like many of the other Melissa viruses, VBS_MONOPOLY
tries to send an email message (with an attachment) to all
addresses in the Microsoft Outlook address book.

For additional payload information, please go to:
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default3.asp?VCode
=3263

While we have not seen any reports of VBS_MONOPOLY infections,
we advise all our customers to upgrade to Trend pattern file
567 or later, which detects this virus.


2. 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Viruses Surveyed by Trend US
   (week of: 08/02/99 to 08/08/99)
-
  1.  TROJ_SKA
  2.  JOKE_SMALLPENIS
  3.  TROJ_GESCHENK
  4.  W97M_ETHAN.A
  5.  TROJ_BKDOOR-G
  6.  W97M_MARKER
  7.  TROJ_WOW
  8.  W97M_GROOVIE
  9.  W97M_CLASS
  10. TROJ_BO2K

For the most prevalent viruses for the month of June'99,
please visit our website at:
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/most_prevalent.htm


3.  Top Viruses that Trend Customers are Concerned About
(where systems were not infected)

   1.  TROJ_PROMAIL121
   2.  CALIFORNIA/WOBBLER HOAX
   3.  JOKE_LANCHECK
   4.  TROJ_BKDOOR-G
   5.  TROJ_SKA
   6.  How to give a cat a colonic (HOAX)
   7.  MATRIX
   8.  TROJ_NETBUS


4. W97M_YUGOSLAV (a.k.a. W97M.Marker.X)

W97M_YUGOLAV is another polymorphic macro virus, which infects
Word 97 documents. It triggers a destructive payload on
February 22nd, and deletes all files in the C:\ root
directory.

For a detailed virus description, please refer to our website
at:

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default3.asp?VCode
=3256

W97M_YUGOSLAV is detected and cleaned with Trend pattern file
567 or later.


5. Another plug-in for Back Orifice 2000: TROJ_BO2K.PLUG
-
Last week L0pht Heavy Industries released a new hacking tool,
which adds a point-and-click graphical interface and remote
registry editor to Back Orifice 2000.

To detect this new plug-in, please update your Trend pattern
file to version 567 or later.

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[CTRL] Attn Vietnam Vets

1999-08-11 Thread Bill Richer

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 Dear Hero,

 I was in my twenties during the Vietnam era. I was a single mother and,
 I'm sad to say, I was probably one of the most self-centered people on
 the planet. To be perfectly honest…I didn't care one way or the other
 about the war. All I cared about was me—how I looked, what I wore, and
 where I was going. I worked and I played. I was never politically
 involved in anything, but I allowed my opinions to be formed by the
 media. It happened without my ever being aware. I listened to the
 protest songs and I watch the six o'clock news and I listened to all the
 people who were talking. After awhile, I began to repeat their words
 and, if you were to ask me, I'd have told you I was against the war. It
 was very popular. Everyone was doing it, and we never saw what it was
 doing to our men. All we were shown was what they were doing to the
 people of Vietnam.
 My brother joined the Navy and then he was sent to Vietnam. When he came
 home, I repeated the words to him. It surprised me at how angry he
 became. I hurt him very deeply and there were years of separation—not
 only of miles, but also of character. I didn't understand.
 In fact, I didn't understand anything until one day I opened my
 newspaper and saw the anguished face of a Vietnam veteran. The picture
 was taken at the opening of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington,
 D.C. His countenance revealed the terrible burden of his soul. As I
 looked at his picture and his tears, I finally understood a tiny portion
 of what you had given for us and what we had done to you. I understood
 that I had been manipulated, but I also knew that I had failed to think
 for myself. It was like waking up out of a nightmare, except that the
 nightmare was real. I didn't know what to do.
 One day about three years ago, I went to a member of the church I
 attended at that time, because he had served in Vietnam. I asked him if
 he had been in Vietnam, and he got a look on his face and said, "Yes."
 Then, I took his hand, looked him square in the face, and said, "Thank
 you for going." His jaw dropped, he got an amazed look on his face, and
 then he said, "No one has ever said that to me." He hugged me and I
 could see that he was about to get tears in his eyes. It gave me an
 idea, because there is much more that needs to be said. How do we put
 into words…all the regret of so many years? I don't know, but when I
 have an opportunity, I take…so here goes.
 Have you been to Vietnam? If so, I have something I want to say to
 you—Thank you for going! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Please
 forgive me for my insensitivity. I don't know how I could have been so
 blind, but I was. When I woke up, you were wounded and the damage was
 done, and I don't know how to fix it. I will never stop regretting my
 actions, and I will never let it happen again.
 Please understand that I am speaking for the general public also. We
 know we blew it and we don't know how to make it up to you. We wish we
 had been there for you when you came home from Vietnam because you were
 a hero and you deserved better. Inside of you there is a pain that will
 never completely go away…and you know what? It's inside of us, too;
 because when we let you down, we hurt ourselves, too. We all know it…and
 we suffer guilt and we don't know what to do…so we cheer for our troops
 and write letters to "any soldier" and we hang out the yellow ribbons
 and fly the flag and we love America. We love you too, even if it
 doesn't feel like it to you. I know in my heart that, when we cheer
 wildly for our troops, part of the reason is trying to make up for
 Vietnam. And while it may work for us, it does nothing for you. We
 failed you. You didn't fail us, but we failed you and we lost our only
 chance to be grateful to you at the time when you needed and deserved
 it. We have disgraced ourselves and brought shame to our country. We did
 it and we need your forgiveness. Please say you will forgive us and
 please take your rightful place as heroes of our country. We have
 learned a terribly painful lesson at your expense and we don't know how
 to fix it.

 From the heart,
 Julie Weaver
 x
 Burleson, Texas 
 (xxx) xxx-
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[CTRL] Attn Retired US Military about Medical Benefits

1999-08-11 Thread Bill Richer

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In siding with the Justice Department, the appeals court said
 military regulations never provided for unconditional lifetime
 free medical care or authorized recruiters to promise care as an
 inducement to joining or staying in the military. 

Isn't that odd?  When my husband retired from the USAF in l977, he was given
a copy of AFP 211-1-12, Air Force Guide for Retired Personnel.

On page 53 it says:

Under the provisions of chapter 55, title l0, U.S.C., retired members and
their eligible dependents are authorized certain hospitalization and
outpatient care in civilian medical facilities as well as uniformed services
facilities.  Medical or dental care provided retired members nd their
dependents in uniformed services medical facilities is subject to the
availability of space and facilities and the capabilities of the professional
staff.  Retired members (but not their dependents), may also receive care in
Veterans Administration facilties on a space-available basis.  They will no
longer have to state under oath that they are financially unable to defray
the cost of care.  Dental care, except as a necessary adjunct to medical or
surgical treatment, is not authorized from civilian sources.

Para 113.  Eligibility.  Those eligible for authorized medical benefits
include:

a.  Retired member (any member or former member of a uniformed service
who is entitled to retired, retainer, or equivalent pay as a result of
service in a uniformed service).

 b.  Spouse

c.  Unremarried widow.

d.  Unremaried widower

Etc, etc, etc.

And even though it stipulates that those over 65 will be eligible for
civilian care under the Social Security Medicare Program and will no longer
be eligible for civilian care under the Uniformed Services Health Benefits
Program.  The last sentence of that paragraph announcing this says, "All
beneficiaries, however, may continue to receive space-available care in
uniformed services facilities.

It really doesn't appear that the promises of recruiters had much to do with
it.   I do recall it commonly mentioned that the wonderful medical care we
would all receive would make up for the rather poor pay package the military
was and is quite famous for.   Guess the recruiters should find something
else to talk about anyway.

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[CTRL] A pro-gun legal offensive

1999-08-11 Thread Bill Richer

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 A
HREF="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/19990811_xnjdo_a_progun_l
.shtml"A pro-gun legal offensive  /A
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/19990811_xnjdo_a_progun_l.shtml

A pro-gun legal offensive
Lawsuit would challenge
1934 National Firearms Act



By Jon E. Dougherty
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

A group opposed to the provisions of the 1934 National Firearms Act is
planning a lawsuit to force the federal government to amend or repeal the
65-year-old law.

According to the 1934 Group, a provision of federal firearms law known as the
CLEO, or Certified Law Enforcement Officer sign-off provision is being
challenged as an illegal unfunded federal mandate and tax requirement. The
provision requires local law enforcement officials to approve the purchase of
fully automatic weapons and, once approved, requires the purchaser to pay a
$200 tax on each weapon purchased.

That requirement, the group claims, is subject to bias against certain
dealers who sell the weapons as well as the individuals who want to buy them.
And, a spokesman for the group told WorldNetDaily, it has lent itself to
abuse for political reasons.

"We're willing to do what most other organizations are unwilling to -- help
manufacturers, dealers and consumers of NFA items exclusively," said Kel
Whelan, director of the 1934 Group. "Ultimately, we'd love to see the NFA '34
pulled down as the unconstitutional taxation sham it is."

Whelan told WorldNetDaily the proposed suit "will not center exclusively on
the Second Amendment because if it did, we don't think we'd get very far."
Instead, "there are a number of provisions and constitutional amendments,
including the Second Amendment, in question here. We just think it's time
this law went away."

"The nice part about this suit is it will have many plaintiffs, each with
their own argument," he said. "Unreasonable search and seizure, Fifth
Amendment issues, restraint of trade from a retailer's perspective, restraint
of trade from the buyer's, tax privacy issues, 10th Amendment, 14th
Amendment, Second Amendment and so on. And the Treasury Department has to win
all the arguments, while we only have to win one to succeed."

Whelan said the suit should not be misconstrued as an attempt to legalize any
weapons that are not currently legal.

"It is about helping legal manufacturers, dealers and end-users process
paperwork used in paying tax on firearms that have always been legal to
purchase," he explained. "If someone doesn't agree that these collectible and
rare firearms should be legal, then that is an entirely separate issue that
they are welcome to attempt legislation concerning, but no one should agree
to endorse harassment through abuse of law and cronyism resulting in chilling
civil rights."

One of the 1934 Group's attorneys is Stephen Halbrook, "the attorney that
argued the 'Brady' (U.S. v. Printz) case and subsequently got that piece of
poor law declared void." Another attorney, Jim Jeffries, is joining Halbrook.

"I would hope that every CL2 manufacturer and CL3 dealer, regardless of
whether their current CLEOs are friendly for now, will understand that this
suit translates into more sales," Whelan said. "Every purchaser should
understand that their purchases and the ability to leave them to an heir
should not involve having their privacy infringed upon by often-prejudiced
local law enforcement."

Whelan said the CLEO requirements have been politically motivated or
otherwise biased for years. He cited abuses documented by the group in
Alaska, Houston, and Miami, and said even the BATF has advised dealers "not
to sign off on their own requirement on their own forms."

"Often dealers find it in their interest to bribe or search out friendly
chiefs and sheriffs in order to provide signoffs for their clients," Whelan
wrote in a recent press release. "Sometimes it works out the opposite way. In
some areas, if you don't buy the item from a store that made a significant
contribution to the sheriff's re-election fund, you don't get a signoff."

"Is it not obvious that this federal requirement lends itself to local
corruption? Is it not obvious that a federal form should not require a local
signoff?" he said.

Whelan added that many pro-gun supporters have been waiting for an
organization to "go on the offensive" for years rather than simply "fight
back."

"That time is now," he said. "That group is us. It's time."





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as a morning co-host of Daybreak America.

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[CTRL] icke_e-magazine] LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE

1999-08-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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texians1st wrote:

   

 Subject: [icke_e-magazine] LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE
 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:37:20 -0500
 From: "David Icke E!~Magazine" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Just in from David

 LATEST UPDATE FROM DAVID ICKE
 AT GIZA, EGYPT, AUGUST 11TH

 Giza, Egypt, August 11th 1999.

 http://www.davidicke.com/icke/magazine/vol-4/giza.html

 -

 Why? Maybe one of the answers is here:
 http://www.immunotex.com/pyramid

 
This book ( above) - Hidden Mysteries of the Pyramid by David Lewis is
fantastic. I recommend it.
In 1936 in Greece 97 feet below land surface a small cigar sized box was
found. Containing 5 parchment scrolls in near perfect condition, in 5
languages, including part Hebrew, some Arabic, Mayan and even Atlantean.
After decades of translation, the documents showed a code for gaining
access to the secret chamber 500 feet below the baseline of the pyramid.
A date was clearly read as 1260 AD. In 1976 6 expeditions were made to
this series of rooms. This book is a record of what they found - a
treasure trove of scientific instruments (still working) and recordings
left by a superior race ages ago.

 The author was an original member of the group. The book contains the
pyramid's purpose.It describes ETs coming here 576,001 BC. The  Great
Pyramid is the only pyramid on the face of the earth that contains the
geometrical measurements, giving us the exact dates of all the Biblical
prophecies and the exactness of the years from the time of Adam to the
final destiny of mankind which appears to end at Sept 17 2,001  AD. The
pyramid inch is equal to a solar year. Finally the pyramid symbolism,
when connected with Biblical prophecy, indicates that its message is
addressed to our present era and not the functions of long ago.

In Windows 95 programs/Fun with Photos/Easy Photo there is a great photo
of the pyramid and Sphinx that you can use for wallpaper too.

Regards, Nicky

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fwd WW: White Vehicles belong to USA's--INS,not the UN as Internet Folklore sai

1999-08-11 Thread Bill

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This too, sounds exactly like well concocted
misinformationjust an observation thoughmuch of the
stuff I hear in churches or around the self serving city
centers where the parasite government lives sound like
mislabeled or misaligned informations...look at newspapers,
the tampa tribune a case in point...what a ragand what
about all the new and unused federally sponsored
incinerators put up in the last 4 years...I have seen some
of them myself...one is on county property but with very
federal looking signs on the fence, and it was not being
used a year after it was built, and there are train tracks
running to itwhatever...we should know some truth
soon...and this is truth we do know: our media and
government are the greatest liars that have ever existed on
the planet Earth.  So Far anyway.
BG

Tenorlove wrote:

 I got this in my email; it's another perspective on the white vehicles.

 Tenorlove

 Note: forwarded message attached.

 _
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

   

 Subject: Fwd WW: White Vehicles belong to USA's--INS, not the UN as Internet
  Folklore sai
 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:41:24 EDT
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Forwarded by The Word Warriorette
 "Will forward - You decide"
 08-10-99 03:53 PM
 God save the Republic and the Constitution of the united States of America!
 =
 BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE:

 White Vehicles belong to USA's--INS, not the UN.

 An "Internet Folklore" rumor rampage claimed the supposed white vehicles
 belonged to the UN.

 The white vehicles belong to the INS, and will be used to police the southern
 boarder, says Chuck Harder, who adds that he verified his information with a
 reliable, high inside source in government.

 MONDAY AUGUST 09, 1999

 An invasion of U.S. by U.N. -- not!
 Internet folklore story is full of globaloney

 By David M. Bresnahan
 © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

 Rumors of thousands of United Nations vehicles being outfitted behind a
 remote federal prison in Texas have been spread across talk radio and
 Internet web sites -- all heavy on conjecture and short on facts.
 The truth was easily verified by WorldNetDaily, and the results show how
 easily a wild story can use a small portion of truth to sound genuine.
 Americans who have long ago stopped trusting their government, and talk
 show hosts who like wild stories, were quick to accept this story without
 verifying the facts.
 The tale of a U.N. force being prepared as an international police force
 apparently began with a genuine effort by amateur investigators to expose
 what they thought was a subversive plot.
 The operator of a Texas-based Internet hosting service began publishing
 news stories on his website. That service then expanded to conducting local
 investigations into local Texas rumors.
 David Palmquist, operator of AllTexas.net, agrees that he is untrained as a
 journalist, but he is trying to fill a gap that he says the local news
 media has left unfilled. He published a story that told of 1,000 white
 vehicles being stockpiled at a high-security prison in Bastrop, Texas.
 "All the vehicles are U.N. white," said Palmquist in his article.
 "Rumors have been floating in the area for months about a fleet of
 suspicious vehicles being outfitted with prisoner cages, shackles and
 insignia such as 'U.S. Police Force' and the U.N. roundel. None of the
 vehicles observed in the storage area appeared to have any markings at all
 other than window stickers with equipment data," he stated in the article.
 Palmquist said an unnamed prison official told him that the vehicles were
 being outfitted with prisoner cages and shackles, and that the vehicles
 were for the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service.
 He disputed those claims in his article stating that, "vehicles assigned to
 the INS are predominantly painted green and those assigned to the Border
 Patrol are usually the same. The suitability of a high-visibility color
 such as white for either agency is in question. Large, white vehicles can
 be seen approaching from miles away."
 WorldNetDaily received many concerned requests from readers to look into
 the story. Palmquist claimed he was a frequent guest on talk shows from
 coast to coast as a result of his article. He admitted to going onto the
 prison property without proper clearance to take pictures from the ground,
 and he also flew over in a plane to take aerial photographs.
 The pictures did show hundreds of white vehicles neatly parked on the
 prison property.
 One call to the federal prison at Bastrop brought many answers, and a
 second call to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service in
 Washington, D.C. found the remaining answers.
 "That story could be nothing further from the truth," said Tim 

Re: [CTRL] Underground bases and tunnels

1999-08-11 Thread Bill

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Retaliatory forces converge boulder denver montain
installations CA and VA.

Eagle 1 wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 For those of you who have not seen or heard of this,
 Here's a link to the Leading Edge report on the
 Denver Airport and it's strange
 paintings / Mason connection.

 http://www.anomalous-images.com/christo.html

 There is an interview available on this site about the
 possibility of an underground base beneath the Denver Airport.
 For example:
 
 DA: Now, you mentioned that underneath this airport it goes down many
 levels.

 AC: Yes.

 DA: Does the fact that all these underground levels are there have something
 to do with why it took so long for this airport to open?

 AC: Well, the gentleman that I was dealing with, Phil Schneider, said that
 during the last year of construction they were connecting the underground
 airport system to the deep underground base. He told me that there was at
 least an eight-level deep underground base there, and that there was a 4.5
 square mile underground city and an 88.5 square-mile base underneath the
 airport. It is very unusual that they would allot a 50 square-mile area on
 the surface at which to locate an airport in the middle of nowhere unless
 they really planned to use it for something very unusual later. There is a
 10-mile, 4-line highway out to this airport, and there is nothing out there
 in between the airport and Denver. Not even a service station, at least in
 September 1995. The people in Denver are really upset with the fact that
 this airport went in the way it did.

 There was this fellow who wrote a book in which he made the statement that
 they had a copy of an audio tape on which a Denver city official was talking
 with people from the CIA, and that he was paid 1.5 million dollars to allow
 the "airport" to be built, no matter what it took. It appears that there was
 a lot more interest in getting the airport built from just officials in the
 Denver area. They plan on using this facility for something else other than
 just landing planes.

 DA: So, this guy got you down there to take a look at the underground?

 AC: Well, he was invited to go along on the trip. I had a friend that
 actually got us down into the active area in the underground. It's very
 interesting down there. The baggage equipment area is very unusual. All the
 old luggage equipment that wouldn't work right doesn't look much different
 than the stuff that is working today.

 DA: You were telling me that there are huge concrete corridors with
 sprinkers all along the ceiling. What are these sprinkler heads doing in a
 concrete bunker, pray tell?

 AC: Well, this is the same question we asked. These shafts are huge and run
 along adjacent to the tramline on both sides. So, there are two of these
 huge shafts large enough to fit a two-lane highway in there. There ar every
 few openings into and out of the tram shaft, but at the end of them, going
 out into this 50 square miles of acreage is a huge steel door that would
 facilitate the entrance of a great big truck. It could be used for almost
 anything, but what is so unusual about it is that about every five or six
 feet on the ceiling, across almost the full width of the area, there is a
 pipe with three or four sprinkler heads. This goes on for the full length of
 the thing, which must be close to a mile. There are two of these shafts, and
 I got picture in the mail the other day which was very unusual that was
 taken by someone on board the tram in the shaft. The picture appeared to
 actually show ghost-like figures on it. It was a mother and a baby wrapped
 in a blanket. When you are down in that concrete shaft, both times I got
 nauseated. There are some very unusual vibrations down there. Now, the
 tunnel shaft that the tram comes in on could connect up with an underground
 tunnel coming in from five buildings that were built and buried. There was
 already a 40 foot diameter tunnel there when construction started. Those
 five buildings they built 3 1/2 years ago, and suddenly they said ,"oops,
 these are in the wrong place" and buried them, along with a very high-tech
 runway that is buried under about four inches of dirt. It seems insane that
 they would build a very technical building complex with interlocking tunnels
 and a tunnel going back to the tram tunnel at the concourse, and then state
 that they built it in the "wrong place" and cover it up with dirt. I don't
 believe that people are that stupid.

 DA: No. Projects like that are strategically planned, and they just don't go
 and do that.

 AC: Some of these five buildings are 150 feet tall. There is one 78 feet
 tall, and one that is 126 feet tall. They are all in that range. From this
 complex there is a shaft that runs to concourse "C". When they started this
 project, as I said, there was also a huge 40 foot diameter shaft brought in
 there from somewhere that was off-limits to the work crews. It was there
 when the project was 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #4

1999-08-11 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990811d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No low-emission vehicles were squashed during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# New claim over discovery of the lost Ark of the Covenant. An archeologist
  who claims to have found the Ark of the Covenant directly below the cruci-
  fixion site of Jesus Christ has died after giving a deathbed interview to
  WorldNetDaily. Noah's Ark, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Ark of the Covenant,
  the crucifixion site of Jesus Christ, and more have been the subject of
  controversial claims made by an archeologist who spent much of his life
  documenting sites and events from the Bible. Fortuitous find and death:
  http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/19990809_xex_new_claim_ov.shtml

@ The Ark of the Covenant - a lack of hard evidence:
  http://www.anchorstone.com/wyatt/aoc_update02.html
  http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/lostarks/
  and http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/ark/

: Does your belief system require physical evidence to substantiate faith in
your doctrines? Is evidence irrelevant to belief? Do Arks crumble and fade?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# A MINISTER'S CURSE-FREE TV. You want to watch South Park, but don't like
  the swearing? A new language censor cleans up Cartman's mouth, offering
  some accidental entertainment. Now, if it could only turn lies into truth:
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/culture/story/21214.html

: Is a curse-free South Park like non-alcoholic beer? Do theocrats take all
the fun out of life? Would you buy software that ADDS profanity to film/TV?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Religion linked to good health. RALEIGH (AP)  Seniors who attend church or
  synagogue regularly might hold the secret of longevity. In another report
  linking good health with religion, Duke U. researchers say seniors with
  regular church or synagogue attendance are healthier and more likely to
  outlive the non-religious. Therefore, superstition is better than reason.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560667298-bb5

: Would any social activity have the same benefit as religious attendance?
Do serious atheists outlive serious believers? Is your life better sustained
by technical or spiritual means? Does attending Black Masses lengthen life?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Lycos nixes 'Jews for Jesus' ad. WALTHAM, Mass. (AP) Lycos, a popular Web
  destination, said it will not renew an advertisement from Jews for Jesus
  because of complaints from some in the Jewish community. The ad, which
  promotes a book on the group's religious philosophy, read: "The end of the
  world is no time to finally realize Jesus is the Messiah. (It's all in the
  book.) Click here for a free copy!" Lycos' general counsel said the firm
  did not want to give users the impression it endorsed Jews for Jesus. See
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560667303-35f

: Would you accept ads from Kurds For Kabballah, Amish For Allah, Khmers For
Krishna, Athabaskans For Adonai, Irish For Isis, Newfies For Nostradamus??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# PICTURES AT A VIRTUAL EXHIBITION. Drive in a virtual desert, paint in thin
  air, morph into an avatar, play with cyber gypsies. You must be visiting
  Siggraph's Millennium Motel. Monthly, weekly, daily, hourly rates avail-
  able: http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/tip/culture/story/21218.html

: Since the human brain synthesizes experiences (memories and thoughts) by
filtering sensation thru a neurochemical network (Mental Map), how can we
distinguish between 'reality' and a well-constructed virtual exhibition? Do
we want to draw such a distinction? Is reality a crutch? Are dreams better?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Eclipse-O-Rama-Lama-Fa-Fa-Fa:

# Solar eclipse sweeps across Europe. NOYON, France (AP) - Clouds butted in,
  traffic jammed  people marred the moment trying to reach 90 million miles
  with camera flashes. But when the solar system switched off the lights for
  showtime, eclipsies from Europe  other darkened lands broke into cheers.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560668853-f21

# Pope shortens session for eclipse. VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope John Paul II
  kept his weekly audience with pilgrims short Wednesday so they could see
  the solar eclipse. After this morning's audience, the pope helicoptered to
  Castel Gandolfo, the papal summer retreat in the hills southeast of Rome,
  and watched the phenomenon through a piece of welder's glass he held in
  front of his eyes. Screaming "My eyes! My eyes!" the pontiff fell from a
  parapet. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560665598-ab7

# Also: Autobahn eclipse view sites sought, see
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560666348-b57
# And: Last solar eclipse of century, see
  

[CTRL] David Icke interview

1999-08-11 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 David Icke Interview
 made FRONT PAGE in a Nevada Newspaper...

 I have attached the text file of it..
It will go out later to all the subscribers
 It is copyrighted by the The Spectrum and must be sent out unchanged...

 **


   Are "Their" Aliens
   Among Us?
  ~The Biggest Secret~
  An Interview With David Icke
  7/30/99 ~ RICK MARTIN

  From The SPECTRUM newspaper's ~~Front Page~~ story!
August 3, 1999, Vol 1 Number 3.
   To order The SPECTRUM call (877) 280-2866.
Web site:www.spectrumnews10.com [http://www.spectrumnews10.com]


 --

 David Icke has become a highly sought-after lecturer, worldwide, and
 it is no wonder. His books in recent years have covered the full
 range of topics concerning the so-called "elite" global controllers
 and their stranglehold on the masses.

 His most recent book, titled ~The Biggest Secret~, is his most daring
 work to date. To say that it takes on even more than its title
 suggests, is still quite an understatement.

  On July 8, 1999, I caught up with David, by telephone, in London.
 While he was recovering from a prolonged bout with a flu bug, and we
 would have been thankful with just a short interview under the
 circumstances, I think you will agree with me that he was in fine
 form during this conversation.

  David hits hard on a wide range of topics, some of which will,
 surely, stretch your beliefs and expand your thinking. This is,
 literally, a "fasten your seatbelts and hold on to your hat" kind of
 conversation which captures David's riveting speaking style as best
 that can be done in print.

  If you do not read this interview with an open mind, you will
 probably just dismiss the entire thing. But as a careful reading of
 ~The Biggest Lie [Secret]~will reveal, David has definitely done his
 homework-as usual!

 As David told me, he has just done a month in Australia, New Zealand,
 Hong Kong, and America. He is now, as I write, in South Africa for a
 month, then back to America in September. He is confirmed in Seattle,
 Washington to speak at Washington State CTC from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on
 September 25; tickets for that event are available through
 Ticketmaster (206) 628-0888. His schedule for other events may be
 accessed through his website which is: {http://www/davidicke.com
 [http://www/davidicke.com] }. His very controversial video tape with
 Illuminati mind-control victim Arizona Wilder, is available from
 Bookworld and elsewhere, but for your convenience The SPECTRUM is
 also carrying this video ~Revelations of a Mother Goddess~ and his
 newest book ~The Biggest Secret~; see back page for ordering
 information. If you would like to contact David for a speaking
 engagement or conference, he may be reached by calling Royal Adams at
 602-657-6992 or fax at 602-657-6994. British or European inquiries
 may be made at Bridge of Love ~ United Kingdom on 01983 566002. [ ~
 Bridge of Love ~ Australia - Phone +61 7 3209 7902 FREECALL in
 Australia 1800 099 902 ~]

  With all of that said, sit back and read the latest insights from a
 researcher who has dared to probe into the darkest corners and speak
 out on some areas that, to-date, seemingly no one, on a global scale,
 has been willing to touch. It is very appropriate that two of David's
 other books include: ~And The Truth Shall Set You Free~ and ~The
 Robot's Rebellion.~

  We are in a time when personal responsibility is the challenge
 affecting us all-big time! What if each of us simply made a
 resolution to follow the three suggestions David makes near the end
 of his conversation? Sometimes the simplest ideas to put into words
 are the hardest to truly carry out.
 --

 ~~Martin:~~ I'm talking to you at the seat of global power today,
 namely London. Not only are you located at the seat of power, but
 there are many horrific and nasty things taking place behind the
 seemingly respectable old stone walls of those various places.

 ~~Icke:~~ Right, absolutely.

  ~~Martin:~~ As our readers are very well versed on the Global
 Controllers generally, let's cut to the chase with the bad news first
 and go from there. What is ~The Biggest Secret~, as your new book is
 so appropriately titled?

  ~~Icke:~~ The 'biggest secret' that's emerging is that back in the
 ancient world, we can debate when, but certainly you can pick it up
 around 5,000 B.C., a series of bloodlines emerged, particularly but
 not exclusively-particularly, really, the focus of power was in the
 Near and Middle East.

  These bloodlines became the leaders and the Royal lines of that
 ancient Near and Middle Eastern area. This bloodline would appear to
 go back to an extra-terrestrial intervention 

Re: [CTRL] false memories

1999-08-11 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

Below please find information about "false" memories.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

PS There will be a ritual abuse conference this weekend in CT. for more info,
http://members.aol.com/smartnews/SMART-1999-Conference.htm

PS "if all the information in the media and society available to most
survivors is biased toward the false position that memories of abuse are
false and a survivor is manipulated and pressured by their family emotionally
and cognitively, it is very possible that a survivor may believe (falsely)
that their memories are false."

Recovered Memories are memories that have been "forgotten" at least
consciously, by the victim of the trauma or abuse. A variety of studies and
court cases support the theory of recovered memory. The veracity of recovered
memories is backed up by the following:

"More sophisticated studies that clearly distinguish between plot-relevant
central information, basic level visual information, and plot-irrelevant
central and background details (Burke et al., 1992) have clearly demonstrated
that memory is well and accurately retained for the gist of a central action
(plot-relevant action) or a negative emotional event even over long retention
intervals, while only the peripheral background details are poorly retained.
These findings are consistent with Bartlett's (1932) original studies on
memory for the War of the Ghosts, in which gist memory was well preserved
while memory for minor details was highly inaccurate. General, overstated
claims about memory fallibility fail to take into consideration the complex
interaction of variables that affect memory performance."
( "Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law" by Brown, Scheflin and Hammond,
W.W. Norton and Co. New York and London, C 1998 (http://www.wwnorton.com)
Page 365-366)

"There is a growing corpus of scientific and clinical data in support of the
view that traumatic experiences are encoded and stored both as behavioral
memory and verbal memory, and that in certain instances the implicit,
behavioral memory for the trauma make take primacy over the verbal memory in
the form of behavioral reenactment and intrusive reexperiencing. normal
behavioral  memory in children and behavioral memory for trauma in children
and adults have been the subjects  of numerous scientific investigations."
("Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law" p. 383-384 )

"The base rates for memory commission errors are quite low, at least in
professional trauma treatment. The base rates in adult misinformation studies
run between zero and 5 percent for adults and between 3 - 5 percent for
children. ("Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the Law"  p.370-381)

"Occasional unwitting misleading suggestions (Yapko, 1994a), even the
suggestion of a diagnosis of abuse, cannot adequately explain illusory
memories of child sexual abuse." (p. 379, "Memory, Trauma Treatment, and the
Law")

The following is from "Memory, Trauma Treatment and the Law" by Brown,
Scheflin and Hammond, C 1998, W. W. Norton Pub. Chapter 12, "The False Logic
of the False Memory Controversy and the Irrational Element in Scientific
Research on Memory" p. 383-384

"...In particular, the following positions asserted by extreme false memory
proponents are mistaken:

1. All or most therapists working with childhood sexual abuse believe in the
tape-recorder theory of memory.
2. Repressed memory does not exist, or, as Ofsche has stated, "repressed
memory is the scientific quackery of the twentieth century." (Ofsche, cited
in Loftus and Ketchum, 1994, p. 206)
3. There is only one "normal" model for memory, whether traumatic or
nontraumatic.
4. Memories of events are stored the way books are stored on library shelves
- as an entire unit.

Many trauma advocate and almost all memory researchers...adhere to a
multidimensional view of memory systems, and they correctly point out that
false memory advocates who apply research findings on normal autobiographical
memory to the domain of trauma have incorrectly assumed a unitary model of
memory

There is a growing corpus of scientific and clinical data in support of the
view that traumatic experiences are encoded and stored both as behavioral
memory and verbal memory, and that in certain instances the implicit,
behavioral memory for the trauma make take primacy over the verbal memory in
the form of behavioral reenactment and intrusive reexperiencing. normal
behavioral  memory in children and behavioral memory for trauma in children
and adults have been the subjects  of numerous scientific investigations.

Some false memory advocates consistently ignore these data. To ignore the
entire corpus of scientific data on implicit, behavioral memory because it
might lend credence to clinicians' description of unconcious behavioral
reenactments of trauma, which in turn might even justify memory recovery
techniques,  is poor scienceDismissing the validity of recovered memories
of abuse on the grounds that the memory is accompanied by 

Re: [CTRL] SNET: From the Hells Fire Club to the Bohemian Club?

1999-08-11 Thread Linda Minor

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: From the Hells Fire Club to the Bohemian Club?

1999-08-11 Thread Linda Minor

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from:
 http://www.blather.net/archives3/issue3no1.html


HELL-FIRE FRANCIS
A few months ago, Blather spent two issues telling the tale of the Irish
Hell-Fire Club of the 1730s and 1740s, whilst exploring the available (and
often apocryphal) evidence of the alleged 'satanic' behaviour of the ruling
classes of the time. We now turn our attention to the English Hell-Fire
Club, which operated from the late 1740s and into the 1760s.

Ironically, this Club never really called itself a Hell-Fire Club - it had
various other names dreamt up by its founder, Sir Francis Dashwood (later
Lord Le Despencer), such as 'The Knights of St. Francis of Wycombe', or 'The
Monks of Medmenham', but seems to have attracted the 'Hell-Fire' label
through the organisation's reputation, echoing that of earlier clubs -
suppression of 'Hell-Fire Clubs' had been enforced (quietly uselessly, it
would seem) since 1721, suggesting that the clubs of later decades were more
exclusive, and perhaps a little more pretentious than the early
manifestations.

As E. Beresford Chancellor quotes from a news-sheet of February 20th, 1720:

" The Hell-Fires, you may guess, aim at a more transcendent malignity,
deriding the forms of religion as a trifle with them, by a natural
progression from the form they turn to the substance; with Lucifer they fly
at Divinity. The third person of the Trinity is what they peculiarly attack;
by the following specimen you may judge of their good will: i.e., their
calling for a Holy-Ghost-pye at the tavern, in which, by the bye, you may
still observe the propriety and justice of God's judgement on them that
blasts the advantages of their education so as to make this shocking
stupidity to be the poignancy of their wit, and the life they lead the
sublimity of their genius. Such is their disposition; the next things to be
remarked are their education and usual place of conference. Their education
then, after the care of tender parents and their initiation into the liberal
arts, is proposed to be finished in an academy; (do not mistake me) not a
scholastic, schismatical one, but a riding one, where obsceneness, curses,
blasphemy, exclamations with revolving regularity meet each curvet of the
more rational animal. Their usual place of conference in full council is a
diminutive tavern not far from thence, where the master and cook may perhaps
in time hear something from a Magistrate for striking in with the rakes'
blasphemous jests and supplying them with cards and dice on Sundays."

As may be divined from our earlier writings, the Irish Hell-Fires of the
1730s, despite including members of peerage and parliament, seemed to be a
wild weird bunch of philandering rakes. The English Hell-Fire club, with
which this article is concerned, was a different kettle of fish altogether.
They were a small, organised group of select members, with a central core of
13 members, Dashwood - a Member of Parliament being the leader. Other
members (or 'apostles') included Lord Sandwich (who at one point commanded
the Royal Navy), the famous politician John Wilkes, painter William Hogarth
and poets Charles Churchill, Paul Whitehead and Robert Lloyd. American
Benjamin Franklin certainly visited Dashwood's family seat and West Wycombe,
but doesn't seem to have been at the core of any 'Hell-Fire' activities,
despite the more spurious books written about the Club. One of these is
Daniel P. Mannix's *The Hell-Fire Club*, which gives away its angle of
attack with a tabloidish subtitle: 'Orgies were their pleasure - Politics
their pastime'.

Mannix's 'account' of the Club's activities reads more like a Denis Wheatley
novel than an historical account - we could never trust a book that pertains
to tell the truth, grabs quotes from all around and yet has no references or
index. However, despite its gleeful horror and emotive claims, this book is
a useful guide to the sources of the apocryphal stories surrounding Dashwood
and friends. Of the various sources we've come across, the rather rare 1925
*The Lives of The Rakes IV - The Hellfire Club* by E. Beresford Chancellor
and *The Dashwoods of West Wycombe* by the current Sir Francis Dashwood seem
to be the most sober and apparently reliable texts available.

Even today, when 'Hell-Fire Clubs' are mentioned in even the most secular of
circles, vague mutterings of 'Satanists, weren't they?' can be heard.

The problem is, it's quite difficult to define *what* the practice of
'Satanism' really entails, apart from the writings of Anton Szandor LaVey
and the Church of Satan - an organisation which certainly does not conform
to the media - and thus public - perception of 'Satanism', e.g. human
sacrifice, ritual abuse, etc. Judging by various cases of alleged Satanism
in recent years - the mainstream media using the term as if it were
synonymous with 'occultism', many of today's 'independent' practitioners
seem to doing *what they think Satanism should be*. Of course, there are
schools of 'thought' 

Re: [CTRL] From the Hells Fire Club to the Bohemian Club?

1999-08-11 Thread Linda Minor

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from:
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rebis/ts-artic4.htm

The Hellfire Club
by Mike Howard
The name 'Hellfire Club' conjures up all sorts of sensational and lurid
images, but what was the truth behind the legend?
First of all, the most famous Hellfire Club was the organisation allegedly
founded by Sir Francis Dashwood (1708-1781) yet is was never called that
name by its members. It was more formerly known as The Friars of St Francis
of Wycombe, The Monks of Medmenham, or The Order of Knights of West Wycombe.
Dashwood was the son of a wealthy businessman who had married into the
aristocracy. He sat in the House of Commons as an MP for over 20 years and
variously held the offices of Chancellor of the Exchequer, Postmaster
General and Treasurer to King George III

As a young man, Dashwood went on the Grand Tour of Europe and spent some
time in Italy. There he fell in love with the classical architecture and
mythology of the country, developed a hatred of Roman Catholicism, met
Prince charles Edward Stuart and became a Jacobite secret agent.

Dashwood also seems to have become involved with the Rosicrucian mnovement
through these Jacobite contacts. While staying in Florence, he was initiated
into a Masonic lodge. This event may have taken place as a result of his
meeting with Prince Charles, as the pretender to the Scottish throne is
known to have had extensive connections with various Masonic and neo-Templar
secret societies. In France, the youthful Dashwood also attended a Black
Mass as an interested spectator, although what was to become a lifelong
interest in the subject appears to have been more as rebellious reaction to
Catholicism than any serious attempt to practise or follow Satanism.

In 1739, Dashwood returned briefly to Italy and made contact again with the
Masonic societies. He also visited Rome during the election of the new Pope.
The Previous pontiff had prohibited the practice of Freemasonry in 1738 and
excommunicated all Catholics known to belong to Masonic lodges. The English
Grand Master of the Florence lodge, Lord Raynard, son of the Chief Justice
of England, was forced to close the lodge down and destroy all its papers to
avoid being arrested by the Inquisition.

On his return to England, Dashwood founded the Society of the Dillettanti.
This was one of many London clubs of the time patronised by the aristocracy
and royalty and catering for the hard-drinking and womanising habit of
wealthy rakes.

In 1746, Dashwood founded his Order of the Knights of St Francis and they
initially met at at the 16th century George  Vulture public house in
Cornhill in the City of London. This tavern was later to be immortalised in
Charles Dickens' 'Pickwick Papers'. The Knights met in a room dominated by
'an everlasting Rosicrucian lamp'. This was a large crystal globe encircled
by a gold serpent with its tail in its mouth. The globe was crowned with a
pair of silver wings and was suspended in chains in the form of twisted
serpents. This lamp is not be confused with the one in the shape of a giant
bat with an erect phallus formerly displayed in the Witchcraft Museum on the
Isle of Man and allegedly belonging to the 'Hellfire Club'. The Gnostic
design of the 'Rosicrucian Lamp', incorporating a snake and doves also
appears on the font Dashwood later presented to West Wycombe church. In
1751, Dashwood leased Medmenham Abbey on the Thames near Marlow, about 6
miles from his ancestral home at West Wybombe. It had originally been a 12th
century Cistercian monastery, came into secular hands at the Reformation and
was converted into a Tudor manor house. In the tradition of the 18th century
Gothic revival, Dashwood converted the Abbey at great expense into a
suitable headquarters for his Order, installing stained glass windows and
carving above the front door the motto "Do as thou will". The gardens
boasted a statue of a naked Venus (bending over, so the unwary visitor
walked into her buttocks) and a well-endowed statue of Priapus.

At one end of the Abbey's dining-room was a figure of Harpocrates, the Egypt
ian god of silence, with his finger to his lips, and an effigy of Angerona,
the Roman goddess of silence. It has been said that these statues were
reminders to the Friars that nothing that was said or went on in the Abbey
was to be spoken about outside its walls. In Freemasonry these two deities
are known as 'the guardians of secrecy'. In 1740, the Earl of Middlesex had
a medallion struck depicting Harpocrates when he became the Grand Master of
the Masonic Lodge in Florence.

Dashwood's interest in pagan gods and goddesses was reflected in the
decorations for his house at West Wycombe, designed by the famous architect,
Robert Adam. The west wing of the building was a replica of a classical
temple to Bacchus, complete with a statue of the god. On the ceiling was was
a painting of Dionysus and Ariadne in chariots drawn by leopards and goats
and followed by a company of satyrs and nymphs. Other 

[CTRL] Druidic Groves

1999-08-11 Thread Linda Minor

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from:
http://www.neopagan.net/UAODbooklet.HTML

The Story of Druidism: History, Legend and Lore
Copyright © United Ancient Order of Druids
[Minor edits and layout by Isaac Bonewits]


History
It was not until the 17th century that the teachings of the Druids were
adopted to modern usage when a ritual based upon their moral and fraternal
philosophy resulted in a Grove (Lodge) being organized in London, England,
in 1771. Since that time modern Druidism has had continued existence all
over the world. In 1771, a gentleman named Henry Hurle at a meeting in
London, England, seeing the necessity of a harmonious Brotherhood of man,
announced: "It appears to be that society lacks good fellowship, hilarity
and brotherly love." He also spoke of the Druids and said "they were of old
men who undertook to enlighten the people of their day and who introduced
among the ancient Britons the useful and polite arts, and these were the
Druids. My proposition is that we form a society for social feeling and we
assume the title of those learned men (The Druids), and that we will adopt
the endearing name of brothers, universally amongst us." The wish and the
intention of those men was to enlighten the mind, promote harmony,
encourage, temperance, energy, and virtue. Thus modern Druidism was born.

Druidism in the United States
The first Grove of Druids was instituted in the City of New York in 1830.
Gradually the Order branched out in different parts of the States. In 1858,
California Grove No. 1 was instituted at old Hangtown (now known as
Placerville) under the leadership of the founder of California Druidism.
P.N.G.A. [Past National Grand Arch] Frederick Sieg California Grove of
Druids is active today and a Druidic monument honoring P.N.G.A. Frederick
Sieg adorns the main street of Placerville.


The Druids of today confine themselves to the moral, fraternal, patriotic
and benevolent philosophy exemplified by the Druids of old. Their teachings
and principles are derived from ancient Druidism, founded on reason and soun
d morality. The greatest of all Druidic teachers was Merlin, and his Seven
Precepts are considered as a moral way of life, the finest oral virtues ever
laid down for the guidance of man. These Seven Precepts of Merlin have been
observed down through the ages by all Druids.



The Seven Precepts Of Merlin
First: Labor diligently to acquire knowledge, for it is power.

Second: When in authority, decide reasonably, for thine authority may cease.

Third: Bear with fortitude the ills of life, remembering that no mortal
sorrow is perpetual.

Fourth: Love virtueÑfor it bringeth peace.

Fifth: Abhor viceÑfor it bringeth evil upon all.

Sixth: Obey those in authority in all just things, that virtue may be
exalted.

Seventh: Cultivate the social virtues, so shalt thou be beloved by all men.


Branches of the Order
In California and Nevada the Druidic family is composed of three separate
bodies: Groves, being the Brotherhood, Circles, known as the Sisterhood, and
the Chapters. known as the Sir Knights and the Fun Branch. A member of the
brotherhood branch can in due time join the sisterhood. However, a member of
the sisterhood cannot join the brotherhood branch. Both members of the
brotherhood and the sisterhood are eligible to join the Chapter branch,
however membership in the Chapter branch is limited to brothers and sisters
who are Officers of the Grove or Circle or Past Officers. All three branches
of the Druidic Fraternity are rooted in antiquity and each branch has its
own moral precepts.


The guiding virtues of the Circle Branch are: The Seven Star Points:


Honor

Truth

Justice

Faith

Hope

Love

Benevolence

The principles of virtue of the Chapter Branch are:


Equity

Integrity

Obedience

The Druidic Units, brotherhoods, are called Groves (Lodges in honor and
memory of the custom of the Ancient Brethren who lit their altar fires in
the forest groves). In these grove edifices, the tops were never covered and
the Ancient Druids used the sky or heaven as their roof. The Druids belonged
to all humanity, non-sectarian.


The motto of the Druids the world over is "United To Assist." The aim of the
Druids is Unity, Peace and Concord.


Ancient Druidism
However, the Order of Druids is ageless, having existence in the dim mists
of antiquity. The Druidic Order is perhaps the oldest fraternal organization
in the world. The first traces of Druidism dates 6000 years before the birth
of Christ or the Christian Era and far beyond the scope of written history.
There seems to be no time era when evidences of their ancient existence
cannot be found.

Students of antiquity find in the ancient ruins evidence in stone of that
which we today call Druidism. That which marks them as Druidic is the
pattern in which these stones are laid which show that their builders used
certain stars and the sun as points of reference. Such monuments 

[CTRL] China is Mobilizing Reserves (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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China is Mobilizing Reserves


Source: The South China Morning Post
Published: 7.50 p.m. ET (2352 GMT) August 11, 1999

HONG KONG — The independent South China Morning Post said
Thursday China had mobilized thousands of militiamen and
reservists as part of a military build-up in Fujian province, off
Taiwan, to pressure the island.

The Post quoted a defense source as saying most of those
non-regular forces — including demobilized soldiers — would come
from Fujian.

The rest of the planned force of more than 500,000 would be drawn
from provinces in the Nanjing Military Region, which has
responsibility for Taiwan, it said.

The source said training had started for thousands of militiamen
and reservists.

"While the leaderships had yet to decide on any action to be
taken against Taiwan, the mobilization of non-regular forces
showed Beijing did not rule out the possibility of a large-scale
military engagement,'' the newspaper quoted the source as saying.

Relations between Beijing and Taipei deteriorated last month when
Taiwan President Lee Teng-hui unilaterally abandoned the
long-standing "one China'' policy.

Lee junked the policy, which has helped underpin East Asian
security for decades, in a bid to break Taipei out of diplomatic
isolation imposed by Beijing.

China, which regards Taiwan as a breakaway province and has
threatened to invade if the island declared independence, has
said Lee's move was a "dangerous step'' down the separatist road.

Tuesday, Taiwan's defense ministry said it did not believe an
increase in military activity by Communist China would lead to an
attack on the island over its demand to be treated as an equal.

The ministry also accused Beijing of using Hong Kong media to
spread the news of its combat readiness and military drills to
wage psychological warfare against the island.



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[CTRL] DECLARATION OF CHRISTOPHER B. EMERY (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Found at:

 http://209.70.190.2/cases/filegate/EmeryDec.htm

DECLARATION OF CHRISTOPHER B. EMERY

I, Christopher B. Emery, wish to make the following statement:

1. I was employed at The White House as a computer specialist
from January, 1986-March 1987, then as a White House Usher,
assigned to Executive Residence Usher¹s Office, from March 1987
to March 1994.

2. I have personal knowledge of the matters attested to herein.

3. During my tenure in the Clinton White House, I observed
Hillary Clinton conduct meetings, without the President, with
principal members of the President¹s senior White House staff and
political advisers in the White House Residence. Among those who
attended one or more of these meetings were: Vice President Al
Gore, George Stephanopoulos, Stanley Greenberg, David Gergen,
Paul Begala, Thomas "Mack" McLarty, and James Carville, among
others. Mrs. Clinton held these meetings in the White House
residence.

4. I recall instances when the Secret Service notified The White
House Usher¹s Office that Mrs. Clinton was in the Oval Office for
periods of time while the President was "off site" or out of The
White House complex.

5. In late July-early August 1993, I attended a White House
meeting of Usher Office employees conducted by Roy Neel
(then-Assistant Chief of Staff). Neel informed us that a note
attributed to the recently deceased Deputy White House Counsel
Vincent Foster had just been found and that in it was written,
among other things, "The Ushers Office plotted to have excessive
costs incurred, taking advantage of Kaki and HRC." We were
assured by Neel that, despite the allegation made in the document
(which I know to be false), no internal White House investigation
of the Usher¹s Office would ensue. The next day, Usher Office
staff, including myself, believed that some investigating was
going on.

6. In late November-early December, 1993, I received a package of
forms to fill out for a FBI background reinvestigation. Included
in that package was a questionnaire, under the letterhead of
White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, I had never seen before
which asked questions that I felt to be invasive of my privacy,
including questions about my memberships in clubs and
organizations. I complained to Gary Walters about this form. I
was informed by Walters, who I understand checked with either The
White House Counsel¹s Office or the Office of Personnel Security,
that I was required to fill in this form.

7. I also complained to my supervisor Gary Walters that a
background investigation by the FBI had just been conducted on me
two years earlier in 1991. It was my understanding that a
background reinvestigation would not be required until 1996,
since they were normally done every 5 years. I also complained to
Nancy Mitchell, a member of the Usher¹s Office staff who was its
"liaison" with the Office of Personnel Security and White House
Management and Administration Office, about the premature FBI
background reinvestigation.

8. In fact, since the forms required for the FBI background
reinvestigation required much time to complete, I asked Ms.
Mitchell if I could resubmit the forms I had completed in 1991. I
was informed that my request had been turned down and I
resubmitted new forms for the FBI background reinvestigation. I
refused to turn in the questionnaire which asked questions about
my memberships in clubs and organizations. After that, I was
never informed as to the status of the FBI background
reinvestigation.

9. Sometime subsequent to the death of Deputy White House Counsel
Vincent Foster, I came across several boxes labeled "Mansion
Records" in a closet in The White House Residence office used by
Hillary Rodham Clinton. I was told by Gary Walters, my
supervisor, and another White House usher, that these boxes came
from Vincent Foster¹s White House office.

10. The room in the White House Residence where the Rose Law Firm
Billing Records were reportedly found was, in my experience
working for the Clinton White House, rarely accessed by any
individuals other than the President, the First Lady, and their
immediate staff.

11. On March 3, 1994, I was involuntarily terminated from my
position as White House Usher, the first such termination this
century in the Usher¹s Office. The reason for my termination, as
conveyed to me by my supervisor Gary Walters, was that Mrs.
Clinton didn¹t feel comfortable with me. Up until the day I was
terminated, no one in The White House ever mentioned a
performance problem to me; nor was I aware of any complaints
about my work. In fact, all my evaluations were exemplary or of
the highest rating.

I swear under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and
correct.

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[CTRL] Howie Kurtz Gins Up Bush Coke Questions (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This excerpt from Sam Smith's 8/11 Progressive Review on Howard
Kurtz's Wed. column about the Bush cocaine question.

Kurtz is apparently unaware of Flowers' more recent allegation
that Clinton offered her cocaine.

Minutes after reading the full Kurtz screed in Wednesday's
Washington Post, I called Kurtz myself.  I got his answering
machine, into which I played the tape recorded exchange I had
with Gennifer Flowers on Friday's Sean Hannity Show.  His machine
picked up every syllable as Flowers revealed how Clinton offered
her cocaine and described his own cocaine experience to her.  So
as of about 10 AM Wednesday morning, Kurtz, or at least his
answering machine, had been briefed about Flowers' accusation.
I left a return number but Kurtz did not avail himself of it
(though he has returned calls in the past.)

Can't wait to see if Howard Kurtz passes the integrity test.
Carl/NewsMax

Here's the full TPR excerpt:

THE HIGH ON COKE

The Washington Post's Howard Kurtz joins those trying to make a
campaign issue out of George Bush Jr.'s past cocaine use while
maintaining the media code of silence about W.J. Clinton's much
deeper involvement in the coke culture. Kurtz' spin continues the
fiction that the only drug questions about Clinton concerned his
use of marijuana while a student.  Interestingly, Kurtz also
writes: "Questions about the personal lives of candidates have
become far more common in the hyper-competitive media climate of
the '90s. But they are often triggered by specific allegations,
such as when Gennifer Flowers charged in 1992 that she had had a
long-running affair with candidate Bill Clinton." Kurtz is
apparently unaware of Flowers' more recent allegation that
Clinton offered her cocaine.

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[CTRL] DECLARATION OF M. DENNIS SCULIMBRENE (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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found in the filgate section at www.judicialwatch.org

DECLARATION OF M. DENNIS SCULIMBRENE

I, M. Dennis Sculimbrene, wish to make the following statement:

I was a 23-year veteran Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI). For the last 11 years of my FBI career
(1985-1996), I was assigned to The White House where I performed
background checks on White House personnel. I was first detailed
to The White House in 1980. I thus worked in The White House
during 4 separate administrations -- Carter, Reagan, Bush, and
Clinton. I was the senior FBI Special Agent in the White House
when the Clinton Administration commenced.

A March, 1993 report (Exhibit 1 hereto) memorializes an interview
I conducted with White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, as part of
a background check on Craig Livingstone, Director of the Office
of Personnel Security (OPS). The report states in pertinent part:

The following investigation was conducted by SA M. Dennis
Sculimbrene regarding DAVID CRAIG LIVINGSTONE on 3/1 -3/99...

BERNARD NUSSBAUM, Counsel to the President, advised that he has
known the appointee for the period of time that he has been
employed in the new administration. He had come highly
recommended to him by HILLARY CLINTON, who has known his mother
for a longer period of time

This report or "insert" is consistent with my standard practice
of accurately reflecting and reporting upon investigative
interviews in my official FBI reports. Following FBI procedures,
which prohibit agents from maintaining notes of interviews (if
the information was not derogatory) for more than ninety days, I
did not maintain handwritten notes of my interview with Nussbaum.

Because potentially conflicting information was uncovered during
the course of Livingstone’s background investigation, I was
required by FBI procedures to interview Livingstone several
times. During the course of one of these interviews, Craig
Livingstone told me of a personal connection between himself, his
mother, and Hillary Rodham Clinton. Contemporaneous notes from my
1993 desk calendar corroborate and reflect Livingstone’s account
of his relationship to Hillary Clinton. The purpose of making
this note was to advise my supervisor.

After completing Craig Livingstone’s background check, Associate
White House Counsel William H. Kennedy III called me to his
office to discuss Livingstone. Kennedy indicated his personal
concerns with Livingstone and asked me for an opinion regarding
Livingstone’s continued employment. I offered an opinion, albeit
hesitatingly because my obligations did not include making
recommendations. I told Kennedy that Jackie Dinwiddie, who had
been Director of the White House Office of Personnel Security
during the Carter Administration (then known as the Security
Office), was interested in Livingstone’s position. Kennedy
inferred to me that he was "stuck" with Craig Livingstone as
Director of OPS. I inferred that Mrs. Clinton wanted Livingstone
for the position.

In early March, 1993, William H. Kennedy, David Watkins (Director
of White House Management and Administration) and Jeff Eller
(Deputy White House Communications Director) attempted to
question me about the backgrounds and political views of the
staff of the White House Travel Office. Because the Privacy Act
prohibited me from revealing information about specific persons,
I advised Kennedy, Eller, and Watkins that, based upon my memory
of previous background investigations, I was not aware of any
derogatory information about any persons employed in the White
House Travel Office.

I notified my supervisor about being questioned by Kennedy, Eller
and Watkins. I suggested to my supervisor that The Clinton White
House was looking for an excuse to fire the Travel Office
employees and that the FBI would be "used" to provide an excuse.
Travel Office employees were fired May 19, 1993.

It had been a long-standing policy that FBI agents detailed to
The White House interact routinely with OPS personnel. Beginning
with the Reagan Administration, I also had a mail box in OPS,
where I would receive copies of requests for FBI background
investigations sought by OPS. This procedure avoided unnecessary
investigations sought by OPS. In May, 1993 I was advised that the
long-standing White House policy of providing me with "courtesy"
copies of requests for FBI background files was to be ended and
that I was to avoid liaison activity with OPS. My mail box in OPS
was no longer used. The practice of providing me with copies of
OPS requests for FBI background files would not be resumed until
late fall-early winter of 1994.

During the time from May, 1993 to late fall-early winter, 1994, I
understand that hundreds of FBI files were improperly requested
by The Clinton White House. If standard prior procedure had been
followed, I would have been informed, through documents at least,
that the FBI files of former Reagan and Bush staffers and others
were being improperly requested 

[CTRL] Maybe Bill Gates IS Satan... (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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yikes!
-- Forwarded message --

Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Microsoft has a new version of its Internet Explorer and they
are advertising it with a new ad campaign.  In the background is an
excerpt from Mozart's "Requiem", specifically the "Confutatis
Maledictis" theme.  The result of this is that as the ad asks the
consumer "Where do you want to go today?", the chorus in the background
sings, "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis!".
Can there be any more unrefutable proof of the true nature of
Bill Gates than him asking us where we wish to go, while his demon
chorus tells us where his products WILL take us?
For the Latin illiterate, the chorus is singing, "The damned and
accursed are convicted to the flames of Hell!"

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[CTRL] Spin: Hypocricy in Action (fwd)

1999-08-11 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999
 Subj: Spin: Hypocricy in Action


   Spin: Hypocricy in Action

 by DOUG FIEDOR
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Heads Up

 For over a week, EPA ran hundreds of thousands of dollars
 worth of "clean air" spots on Cincinnati radio.  Like other
 parts of the country, the Cincinnati area was under a heat
 and "smog" alert and the EPA was threatening draconian
 new constraints on residents if they violated one of EPA's
 arbitrary and capricious "attainment" guidelines.

 The radio spots told local people to curtail such things as
 driving, using lawn mowers, barbecuing, and a number of
 other normal activities in order to keep the "smog" that is
 always present on hot summer days down to the level EPA
 demands.

 No matter, though.  President Bill Clinton had a fund raiser
 scheduled in Cincinnati.  Which means, Clinton came to town.
 And, in so doing, he was directly responsible for hundreds
 of unnecessary police and public official's cars to be on
 the road.  Worse yet, the Clinton procession tied up Friday
 evening rush hour traffic for many thousands of home-bound
 drivers while they waited for the Presidential motorcade to
 make the 30 mile trip from the airport, through Cincinnati
 and over to the fat cat fund raiser.

 But that's not all.  Being totally oblivious to the health
 of the local residents, President Clinton used the largest
 jet aircraft in his fleet, a 747, to come to the Cincinnati
 area.  And, according to EPA and others in the "Green"
 cabal, a 747 arriving and departing from the average airport
 produces as much smog as a car driven over 5,600 miles, and
 as much polluting nitrogen oxides as a car driven nearly
 26,500 miles.  It also belches out a ton of soot.

 Bill Clinton knew this and should have thought twice before
 unnecessarily flying into an area under a heat and smog
 alert.  Obviously, though, campaign funds are much more
 important to Bill Clinton than the health and lives of
 the metropolitan Cincinnati residents.

 There have been no reports yet as to exactly how many of
 the area's asthmatic babies and children suffered due to
 the nonchalant and careless antics of the President of the
 United States.  However, the next time health statistics are
 reported, there is expected to be a spike for that week.

 Also last week, Al Gore, the Vice President and reigning
 chairman of the Green cabal who claims there is no
 controlling legal authority over administration wrongdoers,
 proved to America that the environmental laws, rules and
 regulations only apply to us serf-citizens and never to
 the controlling elite.

 While the socialist clowns in Congress were busy defending
 their mandate that all Americans use only "low-flow" toilets
 -- another goofy idea by Al Gore, originally proposed to
 conserve water -- Al Gore managed to use enough water for
 a silly campaign photo-op to flush the equivalent of
 two-and-a-half BILLION toilets.

 It seems that Vice President Al Gore and Governor Jeanne
 Shaheen paddled out on a section of the Connecticut River
 for the photo opportunity.  However, there wasn't a lot of
 water in that river this summer.  So, they had it "fixed."

 To make it "picture perfect," they needed more water, so a
 special discharge of nearly 4 billion gallons of water was
 let out of a dam upstream to keep their canoe afloat.

 "They won't release water for the fish when we ask them to,
 but somehow they find themselves able to release it for a
 politician," complained John Kassel, director of the Vermont
 Department of Natural Resources, to The Washington Times.
 Kassel accompanied Gore on the trip.  "The only reason they
 did this was to make sure the vice president's canoe didn't
 get stuck."

 That was far from the first time Gore put personal well-
 being above the environment, though.  During the 1996
 presidential race, he had Denver officials release 96
 million gallons of water, at a cost of $59,000, so he could
 be photographed against a roaring South Platte River.

 The Gore team "had to know the river levels were being
 raised, just like they had to know he was going to a
 Buddhist temple for a fund-raiser," Republican National
 Chairman Jim Nicholson, said.

 In a stop down the road, Gore announced that $819,000 from
 various federal sources will be spent to enhance the
 Connecticut River's environmental and economic resources.
 "We have to make the 21st century the time when we finally
 right the environmental wrongs of our past," Gore told a
 small group of less than 200 who gathered in one of Hammond
 Farm's fresh-cut hay fields along the Connecticut in
 Cornish.

 No word, yet, on exactly how much Gore's latest photo-op
 splash cost taxpayers.

 Truly, Gore is correct:  There is "no controlling legal
 authority" for this administration.  We are to do as we
 are told.  They do as they wish.  That's how far the "rule
 of law" has deviated off course in these United States.




Re: [CTRL] U.S. Court of Appeals says veterans not guaranteed health ...

1999-08-11 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 8/11/99 3:19:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The 9,000-member Coalition of Retired Military Veterans can
  ask the Court of Appeals to reconsider, appeal to he Supreme
  Court or resubmit the lawsuit, said chairman Jim Gunn.

 "We're not asking for anything except what we earned,'' Gunn
  said. "We're not freeloaders. We just want what we were told we
  had when we signed up.''


This should be no surprise.  They were duped into fighting for the elite, and
they were duped into believing it was a patriotic thing to do, and they were
duped into thinking that this country had any honor left.  It's just more of
the same.

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[CTRL] New NEATO Sec'y Gen'l

1999-08-11 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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 www.wsws.org

 WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : After the Balkan War

 Who is NATO's new General Secretary George Robertson?

 By Chris Marsden
 12 August 1999

 Back to screen version

 On August 4, Britain's Foreign Secretary George Robertson was
 named as the new general secretary of NATO. He is the third
 European social democrat in a row to hold the position.

 Unlike his predecessor, Spain's Javier Solana, whom Robertson
 formally replaces in October, he has no previous history of
 radicalism from which he must distance himself. While Solana was
 active in anti-nuclear and anti-US protests, Robertson defended
 NATO and opposed unilateral disarmament at a time when official
 Labour Party policy advocated it. Throughout his career he has
 occupied a position on the right wing of the party, for which he
 will now be rewarded by a handsome tax-free salary of
 £140,000/$200,000 per annum.

 Speculation had centred on German Defence Minister Rudolf
 Scharping replacing Solana—as the favoured candidate of the
 Clinton administration—but Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder insisted
 his minister was unavailable. After this Britain's Prime Minister
 Blair had private words with Bill Clinton. Robertson's elevation
 was assured, despite somewhat timid protests from Belgium,
 Luxembourg and Canada that his nomination was forced through. US
 State Department spokesman James Rubin said: "The United States
 is pleased that he has been chosen.”

 The support of Washington for Robertson has been won through his
 role during NATO's bombing of Serbia, throughout which he
 functioned as a hawkish ally of the US. The British were the most
 aggressive in calling for a ground war and have contributed by
 far the greatest number of land troops of all the NATO countries
 in the aftermath of the cease-fire. Robertson's briefings during
 the war consisted for the most part of bellicose charges of
 genocide and ethnic cleansing levelled against Serbian President
 Slobodan Milosevic.

 The Guardian newspaper in Britain recently obtained
 correspondence between Robertson and US Defence Secretary William
 Cohen, which showed a variant of the “special relationship”
 between the two countries that in this case bordered on a love
 affair. On February 22, Robertson wrote to Cohen, “As we face
 another difficult situation in the Balkans and continue to engage
 in military action in Iraq we are all profoundly grateful for the
 leadership provided, and the example set, by the US.

 "On a personal level, I would like you to know that your constant
 readiness to give us everything we need and your wise advice
 makes a tremendous difference. It is extremely reassuring to know
 that we stand alongside a faithful friend and ally as we face the
 challenges of these difficult times."

 More generally, the US is keen that Europe shoulders a greater
 portion of the burden of military spending, while remaining
 subordinate to overall US control. Robertson has long worked to
 establish closer political ties with Europe, while at the same
 time defending a strong transatlantic partnership with the US.
 Together with his insistence that Europe's military role is
 strengthened, this gave him impeccable credentials as far as the
 Clinton administration was concerned.

 Robertson was born in 1946 on the Isle of Islay, off the West
 Coast of Scotland, the son of a policeman. He was involved in
 Labour Party politics from the age of 15. After graduating in
 Economics from the University of Dundee in 1968, he became an
 organiser for the GMB union in the whiskey industry in 1969. He
 pursued a parallel career in the trade union and Labour Party
 bureaucracy until being elected MP for Hamilton South in 1978.
 Then his focus switched to his elevation through the party's
 ranks. He was a member of the Scottish Executive Committee
 between 1973 and 1979 and again since 1993; and chair of the
 Scottish Labour Party in 1987-88.

 After briefly functioning as Parliamentary Private Secretary to
 the Secretary of State for Social Services in 1979, he was
 appointed to the Opposition front bench following the 1979
 General Election and the downfall of the Callaghan government,
 first on Scottish Affairs, then on Defence and Foreign Affairs in
 1982-83. He was made Deputy Opposition spokesman for Foreign and
 Commonwealth Affairs in 1983 and additionally Principal Spokesman
 on European Affairs in 1984. He was active in the witch-hunt of
 the left-reformist Militant Tendency mounted by then party leader
 Neil Kinnock, describing them as a “cancer” that must be cut out.

 He was elected to the Shadow Cabinet and appointed Shadow
 Secretary of State for Scotland in 1993. After the 1997 General
 Election he was appointed Secretary of State for Defence.

 Throughout his career Robertson was active in a number of
 organisations promoting Anglo-US ties, including being a founder
 of the Council of the Atlantic Conference and occupying a post on
 the Council 

[CTRL] Butler vs Annan

1999-08-11 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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 www.wsws.org

 WSWS : News  Analysis : Middle East : Iraq

 Simmering tensions in UN Security Council as

 Richard Butler denounces Kofi Annan

 By Michael Conachy
 12 August 1999

 Back to screen version

 The public war of words being conducted by former United Nations
 Special Commission (UNSCOM) Iraq weapons inspection chief,
 Richard Butler, against UN secretary general Kofi Annan, is part
 of an increasingly sharp conflict between the major powers on the
 UN Security Council over relations with Iraq.

 In the first week of August, Butler gave a series of interviews
 with Associated Press Television News, BBC television's Newsnight
 program, the new US-based Talk magazine, and the Age newspaper in
 Australia. With each interview his charges against Annan
 escalated, culminating in the accusation that Annan's office
 collaborated with the regime of Saddam Hussein to halt UNSCOM
 efforts to discover and destroy "weapons of mass destruction" in
 1998.

 In the Age interview published on August 5, Butler declared:
 "There was a convergence of interests between Saddam Hussein and
 Kofi Annan. Saddam wanted UNSCOM out of his life so he could get
 on with his weapons program and Annan and his people wanted
 UNSCOM out of their lives because it was too independent.

 "Kofi Annan and his people sought to hand to Saddam Hussein the
 greatest possible prize—the destruction of UNSCOM.

 "There was a view in Mr Annan's office that a major part of the
 problem with all these recurrent Iraq crises was not Iraq's
 concealment of weapons or its blocking of inspections, but
 UNSCOM."

 A career diplomat and high profile UN official, Butler did not
 seek reappointment as head of UNSCOM in June of this year
 following revelations that the weapons inspection teams had
 become a front for US spying operations in Iraq.

 Since leaving his UN post, Butler has been appointed a "diplomat
 in residence" at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York—a
 leading US foreign policy think tank. The views he espouses from
 his plush office in Park Avenue express opinions circulating in
 the Clinton administration and the US foreign policy
 establishment about relations with the UN and with Iraq.

 Tensions in UN Security Council


 The UN Security Council has been a battleground over Iraq since
 the US and Britain launched the four day "Operation Desert Fox"
 bombings in December 1998. The bombings followed an UNSCOM
 report, drafted by Richard Butler and US government officials,
 alleged that Iraq was not complying with weapons inspections.
 Military action was opposed and condemned by three out of five
 permanent members of the council: France, Russia and China.

 Tensions remain over the lifting of economic sanctions and the
 continuing airstrikes against Iraq. A meeting in late June was
 presented with three different proposals for overcoming the
 stalemate.

 A British-Dutch proposal, supported tentatively by the US, tied
 the lifting of sanctions to the completion of "key remaining
 tasks" of weapons destruction by Iraq and the resumption of
 monitoring and inspection. The resolution has been described as
 largely a continuation of the old policy.

 Russia and China proposed the lifting of sanctions and
 establishment of a new arms control body to replace UNSCOM.
 France supported the Russia-China proposal, but had its own draft
 proposal for lifting sanctions in steps and maintaining financial
 controls over Iraq.

 No agreement could be reached and Britain's UN ambassador, Jeremy
 Greenstock told reporters that "fundamental difficulties remain."
 A comment in the Financial Times on August 9 warned that the
 ongoing deadlock "undermines the credibility of the Security
 Council". It says the search for a solution, "must not deepen
 divisions in the council... A resolution on Iraq should therefore
 be put to the vote only if it commands general agreement in the
 west."

 Russia and France have publicly condemned ongoing airstrikes,
 which killed at least 34 civilians and wounded another 40 in Iraq
 during July. In the wake of the latest attacks, the Pentagon has
 confirmed that US-British planes have conducted 108 bombing
 missions against Iraq since the beginning of the year.

 Following the July 18 bombings near Najaf, a French Foreign
 Ministry spokesperson, Anne Gazeau-Secret, told the BBC, "One
 cannot but feel uneasy about the continuation of these raids for
 months whose aim we do not fully understand."

 The Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Vladimir Rakhmanin
 bluntly described the airstrikes as a "crude violation of the
 fundamental norms of international law."

 Iraq has rejected both the British and French proposals for
 lifting sanctions as inadequate and appealed to the UN and Arab
 League to halt US-British attacks. The country is now entering
 the tenth year of economic sanctions imposed by the UN following
 the August 1990 invasion of Kuwait. According to Denis Halliday,
 a former UN 

[CTRL] The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinian People

1999-08-11 Thread MAG

 -Caveat Lector-

The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinian People
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
-- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994

{Editors Note - The Jewish people are the most self centered, bigoted and
racist people on earth. They believe they are the superior race chosen by
God to rule over the cattle of the earth. They believe that non-Jews are not
fully human. They believe that non-Jews have no more value than cattle. They
are the quintessential "white? supremacists." Go to this web page (listed
below) and read some of the articles there to see how the Jews have treated
the Palestinians like they were lower than dogs. The "Jews-media" in the
United States covers up the atrocities that are committed by Jews. If an
Arab gets angry and retaliates, the "Jews-media" reports this so-called
terrorist attack on the front page of every major newspaper. Please, open
your mind and learn the truth about the "Israeli Holocaust Against the
Palestinian People."}

http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine.html

PICTURE: At a hospital in Tyre, an Arab mother comforts her infant child who
had been
badly burned during the Israeli massacre of Lebanese civilians at the U.N.
compound at Qana, Lebanon, April 18, 1996.

The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinian People  - A Virtual Museum and
Documentary History

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, head of the Kever Yossev Yeshiva (school of Talmud)
in
Nablus has stated, "The blood of the Jewish people is loved by the Lord; it
is
therefore redder and their life is preferable."

According to a pamphlet compiled by Rabbi Ginsburg entitled, Five General
Religious Duties Which Lie Behind the Act of the Saintly, Late Rabbi Baruch
Goldstein, May his Blood be Avenged, the killing by a Jew of a non-Jew, i.e.
a
Palestinian, is considered essentially a good deed, and Jews should
therefore
have no compunction about it.

+++

BELOW IS A LIST OF ARTICLES REGARDING THE ISRAELI HOLOCAUST AGAINST THE
PALESTINIANS - Researched  Compiled by Michael A. Hoffman II
http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine.html
+++

Israelis Terror Bomb Civilians in Lebanon Again

Fact Sheet on the ADL

Sept. 17, 1998: Jewish Settler Murders 17 Year Old Palestinian Boy

The Mad Mullah

Hoffman Confronts Kahane's "JDL" (Kach) Terrorists in Idaho

Writer Freed from Israeli Concentration Camp after 5 and 1/2 Years
Imprisonment

Shooting Arab Kids: Just Business as Usual for the Israeli Army

Dr. Israel Shahak: The Israeli Terrorist State and its Mossad Assassins

March 17, 1998: Israeli Soldiers Murder 13 Year Old Palestinian Boy

March 10, 1998: Israeli Soldiers Murder 3 Palestinian Construction Workers

The Hamas Bombing(s) of July 30, 1997 in Context

Reporters Beaten Outside Courthouse by Jewish Vigilantes

Israelis Honor Mass Murderer with Songs

Terrorist Gets a Sweethart Deal from the Local Media

Chief Rabbi Urged Israeli Army to Destroy one of Islam's Holiest Mosques

When Is Terror Not Terror?

Inside the Mossad Assassination Apparatus: The Israeli Prime Minister Orders
a

Murder

Israeli Agents Use High Tech Murder Weapon in Attack on Khaled

Meshal--Government of Canada is Linked to Mossad Assassination Attempt

"Never Again" Does Not Apply to Them: Jews Use Poison Gas Against
Palestinians

Lies of the Allies--Now and Then

Israeli Mercenaries Bombard Downtown Sidon - Kill Six Civilians

The Israeli Siege of the West Bank and Gaza

Jewish Activist Distributes Anti-Muslim Hate Literature

Shavuot Pogrom: "Nazis, Christians, Whores and Goyim"

Jewish Bulldozers and the Theft of Palestinian Land

A Report on the Israeli Massacre of Civilians at Qana

Israeli Forces Bomb Radio Station in Lebanon

Jewish Police Oust Bedouin Arabs and Destroy their Homes

Jewish Soldier Shoots Six Palestinian Civilians in Massacre Attempt

Other Israeli Army Shootings of Civilians

State-Sponsored Assassinations by Agents of the Israeli Government

Profiles of Zionist Racists, War Criminals and Fanatics

Jewish Vigilante Attacks on Palestinian Children

Israeli Army Attacks Doctors and Ambulances in Palestine

Israeli Soldiers Celebrate After Shooting Palestinian Protesters in the Head

Palestinian Police Protect and Spare 47 Encircled Jewish Soldiers

Israeli Army Aims for the head when Shooting Palestinian Protestors

Israeli Army uses Live Ammo (not 'rubber bullets') on Palestinian civilians

Learn more suppressed truths: Buy books, tapes and newsletters by Michael A.
Hoffman II

PICTURE: Jewish "settler" terrorists car-bombed the automobile of the
Palestinian mayor
of Ramallah, Karim Khalef in June of 1980. He lost his leg in the explosion.

PICTURE: California civic leader Alex Odeh, a Palestinian-American, bled to
death after
Jewish Defense League terrorists placed a bomb in his Santa Ana office on
Oct.
12, 1985, blowing off both of his legs.

PICTURE: Fatmeh 

[CTRL] Exclusive Rights

1999-08-11 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

 The right to exclude

 -
 ---

 The New Jersey Supreme Court says the Boy Scouts must accept gays
 as leaders or else. The theory is that gays should have the same
 opportunity to join the organization as any one else. But this
 theory is at odds with the free society.

 The word liberty conjures up a vision of endless opportunity and
 choice. But liberty also means the right to exclude because
 property owners decide questions of access. There is no right to
 crash a private dinner party, for example. The owners of the
 house have the right to invite or not invite on any grounds.
 Similarly, there is no right to invade a private organization.

 Yet the right to exclude has been under attack in American law
 for decades. The New Jersey Supreme Court defined the Boy Scouts
 as a "public accommodation," and thus subject to New Jersey
 anti-discrimination law, which specially protects gays. Note that
 there is nothing the Boy Scouts could have done to avoid this
 special designation, apart from going out of business.

 But the designation means that government decides who can and
 cannot be excluded from entry, which is no different from a
 homeowner being forced to invite Kosovo refugees or some other
 politically favored group to dinner.

 The courts might respond that the Boy Scouts serve the "public"
 whereas a homeowner serves himself. But there is no such thing as
 the "public" as such. Hotels and restaurants do not offer service
 indiscriminately. They turn people away when they are full, for
 example, or exclude people because of their dress or drunkenness.


 In these areas, the question of who is to be served (by a
 restaurant, mall, subdivision, or anything else) is a question to
 be decided by the owners. By overriding some decisions and not
 others, the government is exercising arbitrary power.

 In short, the lawyer for the defense had it exactly right. "This
 is a case about whether the Boys Scouts, as a private voluntary
 organization, has a right to establish criteria for its
 membership and leadership." In a free society, those who don't
 like the rules can start another group, but no one can force his
 way in.

 Freedom, of course, was the last thing on the judges' minds: "The
 sad truth is that excluded groups and individuals have been
 prevented from full participation in the social, economic, and
 political life of our country. The human price of this bigotry
 has been enormous. ... [A]dherence to the principles of equality
 demands that our legal system protect the victim of invidious
 discrimination."

 Here in a nutshell is the basis on which liberty and property are
 undermined in America every day. Victimization: if a group can
 plead supposed bourgeois prejudice, it can gain special
 privileges granted by government. Equality: a notion more
 applicable to arithmetic than human beings, now so expansively
 applied that it overrules every other consideration of life.
 Discrimination: a word that once meant good judgement, now
 distorted into a sin.

 What if the Boy Scouts had decided to exclude, say, racists as
 Scout masters. Would the courts have intervened on behalf of, for
 example, a Klan member's right to join? Not on your life. This is
 not an equal application of the law, but one that favors interest
 groups approved by government. For that reason, the temptation is
 to defend the religious grounds on which the Boy Scouts exclude
 gays.

 But whether gay leaders are compatible with family values is not
 the fundamental issue. It is whether a private organization has
 the right to set its own membership rules. These rules may or may
 not fit with social norms. But in a free society, the Manhattan
 Pagans have as much right to exclude Christians as the Milwaukee
 Beer Drinkers have to exclude teetotalers.

 The alternative to the right of exclusion, as the Boys Scouts'
 lawyer said, is the "total state." Under that system, no one is
 permitted private space into which the state cannot intrude.
 Ironically, gay groups -- which have long demanded the right of
 privacy in the bedroom -- now argue for the government to bust
 down the doors of any private space that doesn't welcome them.

 What's the precedent for this breach of property rights? In 1948,
 the U.S. Supreme Court addressed restrictive covenants that
 exclude on grounds of race. The justices ordered the states, in
 Shelley v. Kraemer, not to enforce such covenantal contracts,
 since that allegedly would make them a party to actions contrary
 to due process.

 That was the first grease on a very slippery slope. If voluntary
 contracts can go unenforced on grounds that judges don't like
 them, there are no rights to property, no rights to free
 association, no rights to the freedom of contract.

 Consider the words that set off another landmark case: the
 government may not "limit or abridge, directly or indirectly, the
 right of any 

[CTRL] THAT'S WHAT CHRISTIANS DO NOW - By Donald E. Wildmon · AFA President

1999-08-11 Thread MAG





Subj: Commentary: "That's What Christians Do Now"
Date: 8/10/99 6:40:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buddy Smith)
American Family Association  
AFA ACTION ALERT
8/10/99
Dr. Donald E. Wildmon, President
Tim Wildmon, Vice President
P.O. Drawer 2440
Tupelo, Mississippi 38803
Telephone 601/844-5036
URL's http://www.afa.net
+
Visit our Website - www.afa.net - read about the protest at a Disney
"Hometown Parade" over the weekend in Pocatello, Idaho.
+
THAT'S WHAT CHRISTIANS DO NOW - By 
Donald E. Wildmon · AFA President
View the online version: http://www.afa.net/afajournal/1999/august/pres.htm
In 1973 The Supreme Court said it was ok to kill unborn babies. Since 
then,
we have killed more than the entire population of Canada. And it 
continues.
A woman's choice? Half of those who have died in their mothers' wombs 
have
been women. They didn't have a choice. It is called abortion.
Me? I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
First, it was in dingy, dirty theaters. Then, convenience stores. Then,
grocery stores. Then on television. Now it is in the homes of millions 
via
the Internet. It is called pornography.
Me, I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
They call it no-fault. Why should we blame anyone when something so 
tragic
happens. Haven't they already suffered enough? Half of the marriages in
America end this way. The children suffered. The family broke down. It is
called divorce.
Me, I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
At one time it was a perversion. We kept it secret. We secured help and 
hope
for those who practiced it. Now it is praised. We have parades 
celebrating
it, and elected officials give it their blessing. Now it is endowed with
special privileges and protected by special laws. Even some Christian
leaders and denominations praise it. It is called homosexuality.
Me? I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
It used to be an embarrassment. A shame. Now a third of all births are to
mothers who aren't married. Two-thirds of all African-American children 
are
born into a home without a father. The state usually pays the tab. That 
is
why we pay our taxes, so that government can take the place of parents.
After all, government bureaucrats know much better how to raise children
than parents do. It is called illegitimacy.
Me? I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
At one time it was wrong. But then the state decided to legalize it, 
promote
it and tax it. It has ripped apart families and destroyed lives. But just
look at all the money the state has raised. No longer do we have to teach
our children to study and work hard. Now we teach them they can get
something for nothing. We spend millions encouraging people to join the 
fun
and excitement. Just look at the big sums that people are winning. They 
will
never have to work again! It is called gambling.
Me? I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
Not long ago, Christians were the good guys. But now any positive image 
of
Christians in movies or on TV is gone. We are now depicted as the bad guys 
-
greedy, narrow-minded hypocrites. The teacher can't have a Bible on her
desk, but can have Playboy. We don't have Christmas and Easter holidays -
just winter and spring break. We can't pray in school, but can use foul
language. It's called being tolerant.
Me? I go to church, the minister preaches, I go home. That's what 
Christians
do now.
Yes, all these things came to pass within 30 years. Where were the
Christians? Why, they were in church. All these things are for someone 
else
to deal with. Times have changed. Involvement has been replaced with 
apathy.
But don't blame me. I didn't do anything. I go to church, the minister
preaches, I go home. That's what Christians do now.
SOME OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES
The Two Great Commandments -- Master, which is the great commandment in the 
law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, 
and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great 
commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as 
thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. -- Matthew 
22:36 - 40
The Golden Rule -- Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should 
do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 
7:12
The Apostles' Creed. -- I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of 
heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord; who was conceived 
by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was 
crucified; died, and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He arose 
again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, sitteth at the right 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #5

1999-08-11 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990811e - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No intergalactic voyageurs were harmed during production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Forecaster: Y2K still likely to spark recession.(Reuters) Despite progress
  fixing the Y2K computer glitch, there is still a 70% chance that it will
  spark a global recession, sez top U.S. economic forecaster Edward Yardeni.
  "Y2K could cause another energy crisis" and possible breakdowns in the
  "global just-in-time manufacturing system" due to weak links in the supply
  chain. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560655216-d99

: Are you ready for the upcoming global meltdown? Is it inconvenient? Fun??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ TEST YOUR PC FOR Y2K COMPLIANCE. In about 5 minutes, and for free, you can
  check each of the various date-related subsystems in your PC and thus know
  for sure and for real -- regardless of what the chain e-mail letters may
  tell you -- whether or not your PC or OS has a Y2K problem. And if there
  is a problem, chances are you can fix it easily and at low cost. It's all
  detailed here: http://www.winmag.com/library/1999/0101/fea0061.htm

: Are you compliant? Are you worried? Should you be? Is the end coming soon?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Bugs From Space To Spice Up New Russian Yogurt. LONDON (Reuters) Russians
  will soon be able to combine healthy eating with history by tucking into a
  yogurt containing bacteria taken from the saliva and guts of some of the
  space program's most distinguished astronauts. Gaa-gaa over Gagarin goo:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/14/science-science-yogurt

: Do you want personalized food products? Do the voices in your head insist?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# GM plans 'Web car' for 2000. DETROIT (AP) General Motors will offer voice-
  activated Internet access in cars by the end of next year in a campaign to
  morph Earth's largest automaker into a "global e- business enterprise." GM
  plans to sell vehicles online and package them with an array of on-board
  services via satellite. Within 5 years, in-car services such as Net access
  and CD-quality satellite radio broadcasts could generate revenues for GM
  in the range of $4 billion to $6 billion annually. Then they'll buy Micro-
  soft. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560656036-4ba and
  http://www.wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/business/story/21204.html

: Do you websurf while driving? Is it exciting? Would you rather have wire-
less commo devices in your pocket, in your car, implanted in your head? Why?

# PARALLEL PARKING UNDER THE RADAR. Motion sensors on cars could be key
  safety devices for future drivers and pedestrians. Right now, they're
  still just a luxury. But is hospitalization really less expensive?
  http://wired.com/news/news/explode-infobeat/technology/story/21211.html

: Should cars know where you are even if the drivers don't? When will most
autos be smarter than most drivers? Are they already? Will cars take over??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# For a fit brain, drive mit mittens. RALEIGH, NC (AP) Ever try driving with
  y'r mittens on? Sniffing vanilla or peppermint first thing in the morning?
  Brushing your teeth or eating with the "wrong" hand? Choosing potatoes at
  the grocery with your eyes closed? A team say the brain needs novelty and
  multisensory experiences to stay sharp. They propose those activities as
  part of their brain fitness regimen, which they call "neurobics." Lively
  brains: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560667294-254

: Do you stimulate your brain unnecessarily? Does your alien implant do that
for you? Do you perform nonstandard behaviors? Do people think you're nutz?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Counter-Terrorism Rewards Program. Bureau of Diplomatic Security, U.S.
  Dept of State has a link of rewards for information on a host of terrorist
  acts around the world. The U.S. State Department added Milosevic and any
  Serbs who engaged in genocide. Albanians, who can identify these people 
  provide information that bring terrorists to the War Crimes Commission's
  Court, can get $5-7 million. http://www.heroes.net/indexorigin.html

: Who would you turn in, for how much? What reward would you need to deliver
bin Laden, Saddam, Slobo, me? Would you turn in your alien masters? Where??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

# More Extraordinary UFO Events In Vancouver BC:
  http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/vanco.htm
@ 1964 Ann Arbor UFO Photos Given New Hi-Tech Analysis:
  http://rush.digitalchainsaw.com/ufo.html
# Chickens May Spark Asian Flu Pandemic:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990811/05/science-asia-flu
# Ukraine to study its Bach archives:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560656524-9ab

@ "Liberal Opinions" - columnists: