Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- Yadda-yadda-yadda ... Third-hand now-discredited sources whose SPECULATIONS have somehow transmuted into "facts." Not a shred of genuine historical evidence exists to support most of this. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Verge of Vaccine Mania
-Caveat Lector- http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/SecondOpinion/secondopinion.html ABCNEWS ON TVThe Verge of Vaccine Mania A Shot for This, a Shot for That How Much Is Too Much? With so many vaccines recommended before children enter school, how can parents be sure that all of the immunizations work together safely? (A.Shepherd / ABCNEWS.com) By Nicholas Regush ABCNEWS.com Beware old files. They may hold the ingredients for gastrointestinal upset. The file that I just had to stick my nose in was slugged, Vaccine advocates with ties to vaccine makers. I like to keep tabs on what might be considered conflicts of interest in medicine. At the least, it diminishes the chance that Ill embarrass myself by putting someone on a national TV network news show who is involved in public health policy but whose voice, eyes, ears and perhaps other anatomical components are leased, if not wholly owned, by industry. Flipping through the contents of the file, I noticed a letter that had been sent to ABCNEWS from a well-known vaccine advocate. It partly had to do with a story I had produced for World News Tonight. The story was a rather soft warning, based on preliminary scientific information, that certain vaccines given in infancy could potentially cause long-term harm, primarily because the bodys immune function could be altered in some way. As far as news stories go, it was fairly low-key and in no way condemned vaccines, but rather suggested that more research on long-term effects was imperative. In fact, the story made clear that vaccines have contributed enormously to warding off many diseases, a view I continue to hold strongly today. Inexpert Analysis? What caused a burning sensation in my gut in reviewing the letter was the writers criticism of Barbara Loe Fisher, who, as co-founder and president of the nonprofit National Vaccine Information Center, has spoken out on vaccine issues affecting health-care professionals and tens of thousands of families affected by vaccine-related side effects. The letter-writer suggested that since she wasnt an immunization authority, Fisher shouldnt have appeared in the World News Tonight story. (As readers of this column know, I can get quite annoyed when so-called health professionals try to bash people who do not share their views. Ive noted that this is a practice that has become increasingly common and downright shameless.) In any case, we had checked out Fishers credentials, as we do with others. She had served on the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, chaired the Subcommittee on Adverse Vaccine Events and written a highly touted book on vaccine safety issues, particularly those surrounding the whole cell pertussis or whooping cough vaccine. But what really caught our attention at World News Tonight, and what separated Fisher from the pool of academics, including the letter-writer, who advocate vaccine policy, is that she had a history of asking straightforward, pertinent questions about safety. Vacuum Filler Questions such as: Why are there no studies on the long-term effects of vaccination? Why are there so few studies that have examined what happens in the body at a cellular/molecular level after vaccination? Why are we vaccinating children in a vacuum of scientific knowledge? Why are there no long-term studies to assess illness and deaths related to vaccination? These are the kind of fundamental questions that anyone involved in vaccine policy should be addressing, but that is hardly the case. People like Fisher are badly needed on TV and radio news programs and in newspaper stories to raise these questions again and again until the academics wake up and do
[CTRL] Fwd: United States/Indonesia
___ What's going on in your world? Find Out. Visit Stratfor's Global Intelligence Center http://www.stratfor.com/world/default.htm ___ OTHER FEATURES ON STRATFOR.COM U.S. Overlooks Underlying Causes of Asian Conflicts http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special49.htm LDP Struggles to Forge Coalition http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special48.htm 990812 South Africa and Zambia Worried About Losing Control in the DRC http://www.stratfor.com/MEAF/commentary/m9908122230.htm Evidence Russia Moving Quickly to Quell Dagestan Crisis Emerges http://www.stratfor.com/CIS/commentary/c9908122030.htm A Chinese Face Saving Option Emerges http://www.stratfor.com/asia/specialreports/special47.htm __ STRATFOR.COM Global Intelligence Update August 14, 1999 U.S. Shifts Focus from Taiwan to Indonesia Summary: Despite the continued tension over Taiwan's declaration of statehood and North Korea's threatened missile launch, the U.S. has apparently shifted its attention south to Indonesia. Reports out of Australia and Indonesia suggest Washington is monitoring and preparing contingency plans for trouble spots in Indonesia, while two U.S. aircraft carrier battle groups are currently in the South China Sea near Indonesia. The trouble is, while the U.S. has a long-term strategic interest in Indonesian stability, the issue has immediate salience for Washington's main partner in addressing the situation - Australia. This salience asymmetry, especially on the East Timor situation, is generating friction between Washington and Canberra, exacerbating relations already strained by trade and foreign policy disputes. Analysis: Indonesian Air Force Chief of Staff Air Marshall Hanafie Asnan claimed August 9 that intensive foreign reconnaissance flights over Indonesian trouble spots, including Aceh, Ambon, and East Timor, have recently been increasing. According to an article in the August 10 issue of the Indonesian newspaper Suara Karya, Asnan told a conference in Jakarta that Indonesian Hawk 100 and 200 training jets had been unable to positively identify the illegal intruders due to the foreign aircraft's superior speed and avionics. According to Suara Karya, Asnan "did not deny" suggestions that the aircraft may have been carrier-based jets. Failing to deny a suggestion is far from validating that suggestion, and Ambon, Aceh, and East Timor are a bit widely distributed for aircraft from one single carrier to visit. But there is evidence to suggest that carrier-based aircraft are in a position to monitor Indonesian events. The USS Kitty Hawk battle group just concluded scheduled naval exercises in the South China Sea with Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, and Thailand (which has recently acquired a jump jet carrier). Aircraft from the Kitty Hawk were available for reconnaissance should Washington have deemed it necessary. Additionally, the USS Constellation arrived in Singapore on August 10, reportedly to carry out training exercises with the Singapore Navy. As for the distribution of the reconnoitered areas, Asnan said nothing about the aircraft being of the same type, or of performing recon on the same day, nor did Suara Karya suggest all were carrier based. Speaking at the conclusion of the Kitty Hawk's exercises, battle group commander Rear Admiral Timothy Keating noted that there was no indication China planned to attack Taiwan, but vowed that China would "have the U.S. Navy to deal with" if it attempted aggression against Taiwan or any other target. "We are there in numbers, we're trained, we're ready, and we're very powerful," the Associated Press quoted Keating as saying. At the same time, Keating downplayed the Constellation's presence in the area, saying the carrier was bound for the Persian Gulf and had nothing to do with the Taiwan crisis. So what we have is this. First, the Indonesian military contends that foreign aircraft, which may or may not have been carrier based, have been increasing illicit reconnaissance overflights of Indonesia. Second, they made this claim at the same time two U.S. carrier battle groups are in the South China Sea. This may be a coincidence, but it is interesting that, despite tensions in North Korea and Taiwan not to mention Keating's rhetoric, the U.S. saw it fit to place two carrier battle groups off the coast of Indonesia however coincidentally or temporarily. Obviously, Washington does not seem to feel that Chinese military action is imminent. At the same time, it seems to indicate some degree of concern over another link in the archipelagic chain containing China - Indonesia. Indonesia is a key component of U.S. strategy. First, if the United States is now engaged in containing China, the chain of countries stretching from South Korea to Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, through Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore, to Thailand is
[CTRL] Crisis Survey -- A News-Rich Environment
-Caveat Lector- The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU [SIRIUS: The Strategic Issues Research Institute of the United States: sirban1.gif] [Strategic Issues Today: todayiss.gif] Benjamin C. Works, Executive Director --Speak the Truth and Shame the Devil-- SIT-REP 8-3; Tuesday, August 3, 1999 In This Issue: Crisis Survey -- "A News-Rich Environment" "Far-called, our navies melt away; On dune and headland sink the fire; Lo, all our pomp of yesterday Is one with Ninevah and Tyre." Judge of the Nations, spare us yet, Lest we forget - lest we forget! - Rudyard Kipling; Recessional, 1897 Summary: Far-called our navies are wearing themselves out, our Marines, our Air Forces and our Army as well. Though we understand there is a phenomenon called "mission fatigue," new missions are emerging while recruitment falls further behind and pilots continue to bail out of the services. There is a new "Clinton Doctrine" for "Genocide Prevention" if, when and where we can: Sandy Berger enunciated the doctrine on Monday, July 26 and continues to market the rationale. But the Kosovo war proves that "Genocide" has mutated from an absolute, historical-diplomatic and rational measure of slaughter, to a relative and politically-defined measure of political friction. Protection of East Timorese may be warranted under many grounds, but the "Clinton Doctrine" seems an overly-dramatic misrepresentation for that intervention, as well as a clear misstatement of the facts on the ground in Kosovo at the time the air war was initiated. The Hutu slaughter of Tutsis in Rwanda was a real genocide, but it was more important to maneuver France out of its role of influence in the region, than to head off that butchery, which left as many as a million dead, in just 3 months. It is a news-rich environment, indeed. Wesley Clark has been fired --oops; accepted early retirement. Seems the Administration has a scapegoat to offer Russia and China who serves to protect Mme Albright's (and Jamie Rubin's) legacy. (Since when do Press Secretaries become "stars" and policy formulators?) Then there is all the KLA-Mafia lawlessness in Kosovo --it's not just murdering 30 Serbs and Roma (Gypsies) per week, its stolen cars, extortion rackets, and 50 burned churches and monasteries., etc; ad nauseum. Scottish propaganda-babbler, George Robertson, has been tapped to succeed Javier Solana as Secretary General of NATO. Then there is "Hell in the Pacific;" China is upping the ante with Taiwan, North Korea continues preparations for the launch of its new missile. And surprise of surprises, the Melbourne Australia newspaper, "The Age" reports that the Clinton Administration, is preparing to commit a US Marine battalion-sized task force to a four-year occupation of East Timor --something, nobody inside the Beltway has been prepared to discuss with Congress or the American People, as of yet. At the other side of the Pacific Rim, the Colombian Marxist guerrilla army, "FARC" blew off two big bombs this weekend, killing dozens in the separate attacks --US armed forces have been training an anti-cocaine commando battalion for the Colombian Army, which will be operational about January 2000. More battalions are needed as the FARC guerrilla widens and even laps across borders into Venezuela and Panama. That brings up the question of why the US government has sat quietly by and allowed the Beijing-controlled Hutchison-Whampoa Corporation to take over operation of the canal and the port facilities at each end. Then there is India-Pakistan, guerrillas are still trying to sneak into India's side of Kashmir from Pakistani territory, though Islamabad officially called the fight off a couple of weeks ago. Then Saddam's air defenses continue to provoke air ground skirmishes with our US air forces; there have been over 63 incidents in the Northern No Fly Zone since Christmas, 1998, with no end in sight --that operation is another Wesley Clark enterprise as it falls within his NATO and European Command theater of operations. Lastly, August 7th marks the anniversary of those two Islamic terrorist bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; intelligence reports from several sources (three confirmed to David Hackworth alone) indicate the US is braced for an anniversary attack on the US (possibly on US soil) on or about the anniversary --keep your head low on Saturday. The key point is that the new Clinton Doctrine of "Genocide Prevention" is leaving our armed forces increasingly over-stretched and less capable of putting on a show of force against our primary opponents and rivals. .Obviously, I am not going to be able to address all of that in this update, but I will have a crack at the most important interlocking and overlapping elements. The Clinton Doctrine: The abbreviated article, which follows, lays down the post-facto justification for interventions designed to make our liberals and misguided neo-conservative
Re: [CTRL] Protocols
-Caveat Lector- According to Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln, in Holy Blood, Holy Grail the Protocols of Sion were originally a satirical attack on Napoleon III written in 1864 by Maurice Joly, a friend of Victor Hugo. They also discuss obviously non-Jewish references in the Protocols. They declare the Protocols to be Masonic document. Pp. 191-95. When I read the Protocols about 15 years ago they struck me as something that would have been composed in the local college fraternity house over a keg or 6. Tenorlove _ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dutch to legalise euthanasia
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Nicola Molloy wrote: I got it from a Dutch person And my Dutch relatives express a totally different viewpoint...so I suspect that the Netherland public does NOT present the unilateral viewpoint you suggest, but just like any society, have proponents and opponents articles in the local paper over the years which I have saved. My Dutch friend committed suicide a few years ago, Which suggests your friend had a singularly pessimistic outlook on life... she was only about 40 but just had enough of life. Her mother didn't think it was a great idea. Which age do you draw the line for - suicide at 40 or voluntary euthanasia at 50? Not much difference really is there? There is a world of difference between someone who is only depressed with life taking their life (altho I believe anyone who is an adult has the right to do so, but I would counsel them to seek counseling first to make sure that is really what they want to do), and an adult who has an incurable illness not wishing to prolong the inevitable. One's age doesn't matter, as long as one is of sound mind and of legal majority... Death is part of lifethat's the bottomline fact, and you can't get around it. The only control one has -- or SHOULD have -- is whether one shuffles off this mortal coil with a modicum of dignity, or is forced to endure the torture of progressive debility and pain, draining the financial, physical, and emotional resources of loved ones. If a person WANTS to endure all that, fine...but they should have the CHOICE to opt not to... If I have a dog that is suffering from cancer, there comes a time when it is felt that it is CRUEL to keep that animal alive, and that the best thing for the pet, the KINDEST thing to do, is to put it to sleep... And yet if _I_ am suffering from that same cancer, I am not given that same option...seems strange that what is considered CRUEL to subject a pet to, is considered the 'best' option for human beings... And BTW, please remove all the irrelevant portions of old posts that you're including in your replies...it wastes bandwidth. June *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Trade Talks Expected To Succeed
-Caveat Lector- Subj: Trade Talks Expected To Succeed Date: 8/13/99 1:56:04 AM Central Daylight Time From: AOL News BCC:Ahab42 Trade Talks Expected To Succeed .c The Associated Press By MARTIN CRUTSINGER WASHINGTON (AP) - Despite some intense bickering now, the Clinton administration says the 134-nation World Trade Organization will be able to arrive at a common negotiating agenda in time to launch a new round of global trade talks in December. But some trade analysts are not so certain, given the recent performance of the Geneva-based trade group, which was embroiled for months in a nasty fight over who would lead the organization. That dispute was finally resolved with an awkward job sharing arrangement in which former New Zealand Premier Mike Moore, the U.S.-preferred candidate, will hold the WTO's top job for three years and then be succeeded by Thailand Vice Prime Minister Supachai Panitchpakdi, who was backed by Japan and other Asian nations. Deputy U.S. Trade Representative Susan Esserman, who is in charge of the administration's preparations for the upcoming round of trade negotiations, to begin in Seattle, said the leadership fight ``will have no impact'' on the Seattle talks. ``There is a desire to move ahead and an enthusiasm in moving forward.'' But Esserman conceded that serious differences remain to be resolved among the United States, Europe, Japan and developing nations over negotiating goals for the new round of talks. The United States is pushing for a limited agenda focusing on tariff cuts on manufactured goods, removal of a variety of agricultural trade barriers and greater opening of competition in service industries such as telecommunications. Europe, by contrast, wants far more measures to be considered in the talks. U.S. officials have complained that is because they are seeking to shield European farmers from further trade liberalization. Many developing countries are complaining that even the more limited U.S. agenda is too large. They are still straining to meet the requirements of the last global trade talks, known as the Uruguay Round, which were begun in that country in 1986 and dragged on until 1993. While Esserman told reporters Thursday that all these disputes will be resolved in time for a successful launch of the talks in Seattle in early December, some private trade analysts were not as optimistic. ``There is deep disagreement between the United States, the European Union, Japan and the developing nations over what ought to be included in the next round,'' said Gary Hufbauer, a trade expert at the Institute of International Economics, a Washington think tank. ``I don't see a smooth road ahead at all.'' Hufbauer said there was growing foreign unhappiness with the administration's objections to including U.S. trade barriers in the upcoming talks, for fear of upsetting such American industries as steel and textiles. ``The administration, in an effort to pre-empt U.S. opponents, has been taking things off the table that other countries want,'' Hufbauer said. Esserman said the administration would continue to object to any effort to include anti-dumping regulations as part of the upcoming discussions. The administration has used these regulations, which allow higher tariffs for U.S. industries threatened by imports, as the primary mechanism to provide relief for U.S. steelmakers in the wake of the Asian currency crisis. Esserman said consensus was forming around certain U.S. positions, including the administration's insistence that the next talks should be concluded in just three years. Two areas of negotiations - agriculture and services - are part of the so-called built-in agenda, meaning that countries agreed as part of the Uruguay package to reopen talks in those areas. Esserman also noted that a meeting of trade ministers from Pacific Rim countries earlier this year, the group, known as the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation Forum, agreed to include further tariff cuts on manufactured goods as a negotiating goal, starting with accelerated cuts in eight specific sectors. More progress could come in outlining the goals for the talks when President Clinton meets with other APEC leaders in New Zealand in September. Clinton also is expected to have discussions with Chinese President Jiang Zemin while at APEC. Esserman refused to speculate on whether the two leaders would be able to strike a final market-opening trade agreement that would clear the way for China's membership in the WTO. AP-NY-08-13-99 0255EDT Copyright 1999 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. Announcement: America Online has added Reuters newswires to News Profiles. To add Reuters articles to your daily news delivery, go to KW: A HREF="aol://5862:146"News Profiles/A and click on "Modify Your News Profiles."
[CTRL] Uncle Sam's Mass Graves
-Caveat Lector- Honduras authorities find torture cells, graves at U.S.-built base August 12, 1999 Web posted at: 10:42 p.m. EDT (0242 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/americas/9908/12/BC-Honduras-TortureChamb.ap/index. html TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) -- A U.S.-built military base in Honduras contains cramped metal cells apparently used to torture and kill political prisoners, a top Honduran official said Thursday. The cells -- along with dozens of possible grave sites -- were discovered this week at El Aguacate air base in eastern Honduras, which the United States built for Nicaraguan Contra rebels in the 1980s. Authorities had announced the discovery of the first grave site containing unidentified human remains earlier this month. "In the middle of overgrown brush at El Aguacate, we found six sites with tombs and metal cells where we believe the army tortured, killed and buried its victims," Sandra Ponce, Honduras' attorney general for human rights, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from the base. The freestanding cells, which Ponce said are big enough to hold two or three people each, appear to further challenge claims by Honduran army officials that "nothing is hidden" at the base, 80 miles (130 kms) east of the capital, Tegucigalpa. "We suspect there are more than 48 graves in the area, holding the remains of an undetermined number of people buried there in the 1980s by the military," Ponce said. Reporters will not be given access to the site until forensic experts from the United States and Germany have examined it. One of the apparent grave sites measures 500 yards (meters) in length, and may hold victims of executions by the Contras, a rebel force the United States created and trained to fight the leftist Sandinista government of Nicaragua from across the border in Honduras in the 1980s. But Ponce said her investigation is limited for now to the 184 disappearances attributed to the Honduran army, which include 105 Honduran leftists, 39 Nicaraguans, 28 Salvadorans, five Costa Ricans, four Guatemalans, an American, an Ecuadorian and a Venezuelan. "Starting next week, we'll dig there to look for more evidence," Ponce said. "In other areas of the base, it looks like dirt has been moved by the army, possibly to destroy evidence." Among the graves could be the remains of American priest-turned-guerrilla James Francis Carney, who disappeared in 1982, Human Rights Commissioner Leo Valladares said. Authorities had announced the discovery of Carney's remains in May, but later said they had been mistaken. Valladares has blamed the armed forces for operating a death squad trained by military personnel from the United States, Taiwan, Nicaragua and Argentina. El Aguacate air base was built by U.S. forces in 1983 and staffed by the Contras and Honduran army troops. In July, provincial military chief Col. Leonel Pavon denied reports of clandestine graves at the base, saying "nothing is hidden in El Aguacate ... and any authority can prove what I say." The armed forces governed Honduras for almost 20 years after ousting three civilian presidents in 1957, 1963 and 1972. They abandoned power in 1982, although they still hold great influence in the country. Last month, President Carlos Flores Facusse fired four top military officials in an attempt to quell a power struggle in the military, but emphatically denied media reports of an attempted coup. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- TenebrouseT, And the same could be said back of you and your philosphies. What goes around, generally has a tendency to come around back to us. If we promote hate, we will get hate, if we promote animosity and hostility, we will reap animosity and hostility. I would rather promote as much peace as possible with the hope of reaping peace in the process. I've seen too much hate and animosity on the internet for the past five, almost six years online, muchless out in the real world. As for me, I will stick not to my own 'philosophy' but rather the teachings in the Bible from cover to cover. For the record, prove to me that the protocols are not a forgery of some original document, and I may reconsider. But just as Wyatt who claims he's found the ark of the covenant... but left no hard evidence to prove himself, the Protocols cannot be proved authentic or disproved either. It's all a matter of belief and opinion as to whether one believes they are written by those who have a plan for world domination. And in your own philosophical taste, won't YOU be surprised, TenebrousT, if the Protocols turn out to be true. Touche` . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/12/99 6:16:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello PNEALE1, Yes, I've had the gross privilege of viewing a copy of the Talmud... all $666 worth ( that's ironically what it sells for at Zondervan ) and you're right it is a very scary document... wonder if it could be authored by those same ones who call themselves the 'Elders of Zion' ... ? the same ones who CLAIM that the document is "forged" ? h? A forgery requires a real document to have been forged / counterfeited from. So who are they trying to fool with that argument? Certainly no one with any common sense. As far as the world being better off without both groups, i.e. Jews and Muslims, I have to disagree. Christ said to leave the tares alone, (See Matthew 13:22-43) and allow them to grow with the wheat for the time being. So if you perceive the Jews and Muslims as something that should be removed, i.e. "tares" for example, just give it a little more time... For when the appointed time comes, Christ has said that HE and His angels will take care of them, by throwing them into the fire. And what becomes of anything thrown to the fire? It becomes ashes on the sides of the pit, and of no further consequence. eagle 1 Yes, God will make the choices and he will judge, at least according to your philosophy. And won't you be surprised if you are the one that is ashes and others go on to glory. I'm sure God just loves it every time you let off a little racist steam against the "vermin" Jews and Muslims. How about the "damned Asians" surely they won't see glory either? Incidentally the Protocols are not a forgery of an original document they are a total fabrication a complete fiction devised in Russia by the Tsar's secret police. That should clear up that troublesome "forgery" business, since there is no original for it to be a forgery of. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dutch to legalise euthanasia-
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: You're right. It could get out of hand. As do abuses in nursing homes mentally deficient. There have to be controls. Still, I recall my father's last weeks, and I wouldn't put an animal through what he went through. As I stated in my other post, for some reason we subject our loved ones to something that we'd deem 'cruel' to subject our pets to...strange... I remember a few days before my Dutch grandfather died, he'd gestured to my mother (his daughter), because he was then incapable of speaking, other than gasping a word or two -- he gestured for her to get his gun and shoot him; needless to say, my mother didn't...but how much more dignified for my dying grandfather if his doctor could have given him an injection to 'put him to sleep' BEFORE my grandfather had gotten to the point where he no longer wnated to take another breath... You could see it in his eyes, that he thought continuing on this level of existence was beyond his endurance, and more than he wanted to bear...or subject his family to... BTW, when my mother shook her head 'no' to her father's gesture, he gathered enough strength to speak -- I think perhaps he thought she hadn't understood -- and gasped his request, finishing with the word 'burden'...he wanted to die at that moment so that he wouldn't be a burden (which he had often stated, when he was well, was something he considered a fate worse than death)... He died two days later, suffering not only physical pain but emotional agony...how I wish something could have been done way before then, to make his passing less painful on BOTH levels for him... My grandfather was more a father to me than my own father...I loved him deeply, and my desire to 'hasten' his passing had nothing to do with inheriting anything he left behind...to this day, I wish he was alive. But BECAUSE I love him so dearly, I wish we could have given him the same injection my mother gave a dog in the same condition, because it's considered KIND to put a dog to sleep when it's suffering... It is only right that doctors be authorized to allow those for whom there is only suffering to slip away quietly. There HAS been a law in the Netherlands for years, which allowed those who were suffering from terminal illnesses to sign a contract with their doctors, authorizing the doctor to euthanize them at a certain point in the futureit was always up to the patient and the doctor, never the family members. I think what the furor is currently about is an ALTERATION in that law, which will now allow doctors to make that decision even if there hasn't been a prior contract with the patient... But voluntary euthanasia is NOT something new to the Dutch...it's been a fact of life for over a decade... June ;-) *===* Kite So many things you want to see And as you ask I'll set you free But as you fly You'll touch the sky And touch the heart Within me Fly away. -- Bob Childs *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL
[CTRL] Fwd: Echelon monitors phones, E-mail, and radio signals
BUSINESSWEEK ONLINE / MAY 31, 1999 ISSUE SCIENCE TECHNOLOGY They're Listening to Your Calls Echelon monitors phones, E-mail, and radio signals You think the Internet brings grave new threats to privacy? Then you probably don't know about Echelon. Run by the supersecret National Security Agency, it's the granddaddy of all snooping operations. Business and political leaders are waking up to the alarming potential of this hush-hush system. A combination of spy satellites and sensitive listening stations, it eavesdrops on just about every electronic communication that crosses a national border -- phone calls, faxes, telexes, and E-mail -- plus all radio signals, including short-wave, airline, and maritime frequencies. Echelon's globe-straddling system also listens in on most long-distance telecom traffic within countries. Ditto for local cell-phone calls. Indeed, if a phone call or message travels via satellite or microwave relay during any part of its journey, it probably gets picked up by Echelon. So the lion's share of all telecommunications traffic is bugged because even undersea phone cables and fiber-optic terrestrial systems often have microwave links somewhere in the loop. ''Americans should know that every time they place an international call, the NSA is listening,'' says John E. Pike, a military analyst at the Federation of American Scientists in Washington. ''Just get used to the fact -- Big Brother is listening.'' In Europe, Big Brother may soon get a second set of ears. The European Parliament is working on a junior version of Echelon. A resolution outlining the technical standards for tapping such new-tech systems as the Internet was approved on May 7. Encryption is no guarantee of privacy either. The NSA, which is bigger than the Central Intelligence Agency and runs Echelon from its headquarters at Ft. Mead, Md., has little trouble unscrambling messages encoded with most commercial encryption software. With a little more time, NSA can probably break ''crypto'' schemes with so-called Keys almost 1,000 bits long, says Lisa S. Dean, vice-president for technology at the Free Congress Research Education Foundation, a conservative think tank in Washington. ''That's why 1,028 bits is used by most organizations that are concerned about confidentiality.'' If it's any consolation, the vast bulk of all communications are never heard or seen by people. Echelon's chief task is sifting through civilian telecom traffic for clues about terrorist plots, drug-smuggling cartels, political unrest, and other intelligence requested by the Pentagon, government strategists, and law-enforcement agencies. Supercomputers screen the so-called intercepts for key words related to such matters. If the computers don't spot anything suspicious, the tapes get erased after a month or so. LEAKS AND POACHERS. Still, like any technological tool, Echelon is subject to political abuses -- and there have been some. During the Reagan Administration, Echelon intercepted phone calls by Michael Barnes, then a Democratic Congressman from Maryland, to Nicaraguan officials, and transcripts were leaked to the press. Echelon can also backfire: On two occasions, Canadian spooks who collaborate with the NSA used Echelon to pick up information on pending U.S.-China grain deals and steal the business with lower prices. Echelon has been operating with little fanfare for decades. It springs from a secret pact signed in 1948 by the U.S., Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand -- the countries running Echelon's main listening posts (map). Then, last year, the system was hauled into the glare of public scrutiny by a study prepared for the European Parliament by Omega Foundation, a British market researcher. Europeans were enraged by its finding that ''within Europe, all E-mail, telephone, and fax communications are routinely intercepted'' by the NSA. ''Unlike many of the electronic spy systems developed during the Cold War,'' the report noted, ''Echelon is designed for primarily non-military targets: governments, organizations, and businesses in virtually every country.'' In fact, the NSA's biggest base for electronic spying is at Menwith Hill in England's Yorkshire Moors. It is operated jointly with Britain's Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ, which is the equivalent of the NSA. Dotting the sprawling site are at least 25 giant soccer-ball-like structures, each hiding a high-tech antenna tuned to intercept a specific telecom target. The Omega revelations jolted many Europeans, despite earlier disclosures such as "Spyworld," a 1995 book by Mike Frost, a retired spook who was a deputy director of Canada's NSA partner, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE). In particular, leaders in continental Europe bristled when newspaper accounts suggested that Echelon might be providing competitive intelligence to Anglo-based companies. ''Absolutely not,'' declares Bobby Ray Inman, a retired Navy
Re: [CTRL] Federal corn!
-Caveat Lector- Dear Bonnie, I do understand your situation. The federal corn post was not intended for people genuinely needing assistance, whether temporarily or more permanently. But for those who are parasites to any socialy oriented system. And the fact of the matter is they are for more of those than any system can bear. Reason that many if not all of them are near bankruptcy. Generally people who do not like these type of socialistic systems are NOT anti-social nor do they dismiss automatically and entirely the need to help their fellow man. But, like myself, they do acknowledge and know they are other ways to effect such help more efficiently and also with much more respect for the beneficiary's human dignity. It did happened to me indeed personally and that is why I have indulged into posting this. The finality was that I have more suffered from the 'state's help' than from the situation that drove me into it! The simple facts are that in the process my human dignity was crushed, without even talking about the society's label on my back. Every single attempt to get out of it was "legally" shattered and pulled me back into dependence. This alone kills your self esteem as being worthless and unable to live a life of your own. The conclusion is that in the name of 'help' you are totally controlled by the system in every details of your life. In the name of "help" you are surrending personal freedom and sovereignty. One can bear this temporarily, as it should with real help, but if "the system" doesn't provide for getting out of it, in the long run you're dying inside, accepting to be enslaved. That is what socialism does to you. I thank God every minute to have been able to get out of it. Let's not forget that "socialism" is "soft" communism as "communism" is "hard" socialism. So in fact they are one and the same, only the manner how it is imposed on you is different. Bonnie, you are NOT one of the pigs. NEVER. Any and all lives are the most precious gifts there are. Human life is a divine sovereign gift that no one is allow to "control" neither individually nor collectively. This is what this fight is all about. Yes, there are thousands of persons, including me, that will genuinely help you. But I will never dare to "take care of you". Thank you for your courage to reply in all honesty. Hope is in everyone of us, let us spread it far and wide. Warm Regards, Frans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [theseries] Re: [bigchat] Federal corn! Well, I have to live on Federal food stamps. I am seriously injured and disabled, cannot work, and need to survive. And BIG, the one thing that I had going to help me help myself in the future, does not, after 15 months, even have my account right, with only one lonely PR. I have nothing in my account. So, I guess that makes me one of the pigs. So be it. But please, before you condemn me and others who sometimes need a leg up, think about it. There are many of us out here who are decent people who have always worked for our living, raised our families, and suddenly life turns around on them, and is out of their control. Remember, it could happen to you. If the Government doesn't take care of us, will you? Regards, Bonnie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click here for 4 FREE TRIAL ISSUES of Sports Illustrated! If you're satisfied, your subscription will continue at the guaranteed lowest rate of $.75 an issue for 52 issues! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/678 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/theseries http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: FAA Air Traffic SpecialistOn JFK Jr Media Coverage -Nothing But Garbage
http://www.sightings.com/politics4/garbage.htm FAA Air Traffic Specialist On JFK Jr Media Coverage - "Nothing But Garbage" By Edward A. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-12-99 I am: Edward A. Meyer FAA Air Traffic Control Specialist NY FSDPS (NY Flight Service Data Processing System) Certified Pilot Weather Briefer Facilities: NY Automated Flight Service Station La Guadia Air Traffic Control Tower NY TRACON La Guardia Sector Airline Transport Pilot Cerificate Commercial Pilot Certificate Certified Flight Instructor 3000 Hours Total Flying Time 2000 as Flight Instructor Six Students Recommended for Certification As a specialist at the NY FSDPS: I was asked (through intermediaries) by Jane Garvey, FAA Administrator, to create a report of the weather conditions JFK Jr. was flying in. I created such a report. I have the following comments to make: Nothing of what I heard on mainstream media makes any sense to me. JFK Jr. had 100 flying hours and was flying a Piper Saratoga and previously owned a Cessna Skylane and was enroute from Northern NJ to Martha's Vineyard. The statement makes no sense whatsoever. FAA requirements for Private Pilot Certification is 40 hours. Most pilots require twice that. Older students require even more flying time. No student I have ever heard of requested complex aircraft time before certification. If JFK Jr. certified in 80 hours, he would probably seek ten hours of instruction in the Skylane (which is a complex aircraft). He would also be interested in some post certification "flag pole flying," getting used to his airplane and flying his friends around. With as much money as he had, he could certainly afford some instruction in his Saratoga which is a far, far different airplane than a Cessna Skylane. He would also like some flag pole flying in his Saratoga to reduce the "fear factor." (Flying an airplane you are not used to can instill great fear, I assure you.) The whole thing adds up to a lot more than 100 hours. The weather along his flight was just fine. A little haze over eastern Connecticut. Flying over water at night will eliminate any difficulty of restriction to visibility... that is, all a pilot is going to see is pitch black outside his cockpit whether there is haze or clouds. A pilot wouldn't know if there were any clouds unless he or she would turn the landing light on. Last but not least, JFK Jr. was certified (therefore licensed) to fly the flight. Any mention of "daring" or "inexperience" is absolute nonsense. I don't know why the airplane crashed, but what I heard on the media was nothing but garbage. Ed Meyer ATCS ATP CFI-A
[CTRL] Eaton-Lowdes Publications
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.eaton-lowndes.co.uk/ A HREF="http://www.eaton-lowndes.co.uk/"Millionaires, Wealth, High Net Worth, Fortune, /A - from a friend: Quite the research tool! Check it out. Om K - Eaton-Lowdes Publications (Established since 1995) The finest international marketing reference sources in the world Address Book of the World's Richest Corporate Families 1,900+ Entries 3rd Edition 1998 Private Address Book of Great Britains Richest Families 7,250 Entries - 1999 2nd Edition Address Book of the Worlds Richest Families 18,000+ Entries 1999 4th Edition Available on: CD-ROM and Printed Directories Past Clients Include: International Private Investment Banks - Lloyds of London Underwriters - Stockbrokers - Venture Capitalists - Hedge Fund Discretionary Portfolio Management - The Worlds Leading Hotels - Finest Motor Car Manufacturers - International Property Consultants - Fine Art Auctioneers - Super Yacht Charters Corporate Jet Brokers - Commissioned Jewellers - Airlines - Offshore Management - Governmental Departments - Economic Institutes World-wide. = Sample Listings The Directories Page High Net Worth Private Client Investment Advisers International An exclusive A4 size reference source which identifies the Professional Advisers from around the world who advise The World's Families in relation to:Trusts, Private Banking, Asset Management, Discretionary Portfolio Management, Lawyers and Accountants, Stockbrokers including Offshore Advisers. If your company would like to place an A4 page size advertisement in the above directory, the cost will be £300. Private Equity International An A4 size reference source which identifies Private Investors, Venture Capitalists, Fund Managers, Private Equity Professional Advisers throughout Europe who are seeking both Private Investors and Investment Opportunities via ambitious early stage companies, Entrepreneurs, Flotations and Management Buy-outs / Buy-Ins with an investment value of between £20,000 - £20 Million plus. If your company would like to place an A4 page size advertisement in the above directory, the cost will be £300. European Property Funding Survey An A4 size reference source which identifies the major Financial Institutions that specialise in funding both Property Development Investment within Europe. Although primarily commercial related, there will be a number of residential lenders. If your company would like to place an A4 page size advertisement in the above directory, the cost will be £350. The Survey of the World's Richest Families An A4 survey which lists 1,900 of the World's Richest Families. Each of the 1,900 entries has the following information: Name of the individual, Address, Post-Zip Code, Telephone and Fax Numbers, Age of the Individual Business / Inheritance background and approximate Net Worth which is between £100 million - £25 billion. If your company would like to place an A4 page size advertisement in the above directory, the cost will be £300. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 8/13/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From Faster Than Light: Superluminal Loopholes in Physics by Nick Herbert An elementary consequence of Maxwell's laws is that the speed of light is a constant, c, whose numerical value is fixed by the ratio of electric to magnetic forces. In 1861 Maxwell actually calculated the speed of light from the measured force between two standard magnets and the electric force between two charges. These forces do not change when an observer moves past the charges and magnets, so the speed of light, as calculated from Maxwell's theory, always has the same numerical value--186,000 mps--no matter what the observer's state of motion might be. Newton's laws, on the other hands, predict that a light beam should travel at different speeds for observers who themselves are travelling at different speeds. Newtonian physics asserts that light travels at speed c only for an observer who is absolutely at rest. For the numerical value of the speed of light, these two laws--the Mosaic tablets of classical physics--gave two different results; they could not both be right. Einstein believed more in Maxwell's laws than Newton's and claimed as his second relativity postulate that the speed of light is constant for all observers. Einstein's choice meant however that Newton's laws are wrong. Einstein therefore replaced Newton's laws with new laws of motion--according to which the speed of light is constant for all observers. Since Newton's laws embody many common sense ideas concerning motion, Einstein's new mechanics had revolutionary consequences for our ordinary notions of space and time. = Today's News Financial Markets Here Come the Troubles of August Widening swap spreads portend problems For the third year in succession August is proving to be a month of extreme financial turbulence. The US equity and bond markets have been nervous. The dollar looks distinctly tired after its long bull run. Meanwhile, rumours are rife that at least one investment bank has incurred big losses on its proprietary trading activities. The trouble is thought to have arisen in the interest rate swaps market, which is going through unprecedented and stressful contortions. Such swaps are the derivative instruments that allow companies and banks to exchange their fixed interest income flows for floating ones, and vice versa. Last weekend William McDonough, the head of the New York Federal Reserve, felt the need to tell Dow Jones Newswires that he knew of no situation that posed a systemic risk. It was the kind of central banker's denial that offers mixed comfort to nervous investors and traders. By the middle of this week, conditions in the markets had started to stabilise. Does that mean the scare is already at an end? Probably not, because the behaviour of markets still points to considerable aversion on the part of investors and borrowers to taking on financial risks. Even after Mr McDonough's statement, spreads on 10-year swaps were higher than at the time of the financial crisis in August 1998. The spread reflects the difference between the fixed rate being swapped and the yield on a benchmark Treasury bond of comparable maturity. Any widening of the spread points to increased concern about the risk of lending money to companies relative to lending it to the US government - regarded as the most creditworthy of borrowers. This is noteworthy because it was the extreme gyration in swap spreads that helped to inflict such heavy damage on John Meriwether's Long-Term Capital Management, the hedge fund that was rescued by its bank creditors a year ago. To the extent that LTCM and others have stuck to their original strategies in the hope that they would become profitable again in less volatile markets, there is obvious scope for more trouble. That trouble could affect both hedge funds and the proprietary trading desks of investment banks. Sticking to the original trading strategies would have seemed amply justified as late as June this year. But the market gyrations of the past six weeks could have reversed many of the gains. Indeed, all financial institutions that have based their trading strategies on the assumption that historical relationships in the markets would hold firm are now likely to be facing losses. What is causing the trouble? The immediate financial pressure reflects concern that the Federal Reserve will shortly raise US interest rates again. Companies are refinancing bank borrowings in the corporate bond market in order to lock in today's low interest rates. Many are worried that the corporate bond market will become illiquid because of the Y2K millennium computer problem. They have brought forward their borrowing plans. The pressure that arises from such heavy issuance is part of the reason why spreads have widened in relation to the US Treasury market, where the
[CTRL] Starium Promises Phone Privacy
-Caveat Lector- from; http://www.wired.com/news/news/techonology/story/21236.html A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/news/techonology/story/21236.html"Wired News/A - Starium Promises Phone Privacy by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 12.Aug.99.PDT MONTEREY, California -- The sleepy coastal town of Monterey, California, is not the kind of place where vision-fired entrepreneurs come to change the world. Monterey Bay is better known for sea lions than silicon, and for Cannery Row -- made famous half a century ago in John Steinbeck's gritty, eponymous novel. Today, the third floor of a converted sardine factory on Cannery Row is home to a startup company developing what could become a new world standard in privacy protection. By early 2000, Starium Inc. plans to begin selling sub-US$100 telephone scrambling devices so powerful that even the US government's most muscular supercomputers can't eavesdrop on wiretapped conversations. See also: Reading the Privacy Fine Print Such heavily armored privacy is currently available only to government and corporate customers who pony up about $3,000 for STU-III secure phones created by the US National Security Agency. By squeezing the same kind of ultra-strong encryption into a sleek brushed-steel case about twice the size of a Palm V -- and crafted by the same San Francisco designer -- Starium hopes to bring crypto to the masses. "Americans by nature don't like people reading over their shoulders," says Lee Caplin, president and CEO of Starium. True enough. But whether Americans will pay extra for privacy is open to question, especially since both people in a conversation need the Starium "handsets" to chat securely. And there's another big obstacle: The US government has repeatedly tried to keep similar products off the market unless they have a backdoor for surveillance. Its export rules prevent Starium from freely shipping its products overseas. Starium's three co-founders -- the company has since grown to eight people -- claim they're not fazed. "The technology is out there. Whether they like it or not, it exists," says Bernie Sardinha, Starium chief operations officer. "You cannot stop progress. You cannot stop technology." Starium at first planned to call its product CallGuard, but abandoned the name after discovering another company owned the trademark. The firm is considering VoiceSafe as another potential name. Customers will use the device by plugging it into their telephone handset -- a feature allowing it to work with office systems -- and plugging the handset into the base of the phone. At the touch of a "secure" button, the modems inside the two Starium units will form a link that, theoretically, creates an untappable communications channel. The units digitize, compress, filter, and encrypt voice communications -- and reverse the process on the other end. The Starium handset uses a 2,048-bit Diffie-Hellman algorithm for the initial setup, and a 168-bit triple DES algorithm for voice encoding. The four-chip unit includes a 75 MHz MIPS processor, an infrared interface, a smart card port, and possibly serial, USB, and parallel interfaces, the company says. The final version will operate for over 2 hours on a pair of AA batteries. Starium's business plan is nothing if not ambitious. In addition to selling the portable units, the company wants to add crypto capabilities to cell phones, faxes, and even corporate networks. Target markets include the legal, medical, banking, and even political fields. "I've gotten a call from the George W. Bush people for use in the campaign," CEO Caplin says. The company says it's working on deals with major cell phone manufacturers like Ericsson and Nokia to offer the same voice-scrambling in software. Newer cell phones have enough memory and a fast enough processor to handle the encryption. Best of all, a software upgrade could be free. "You take your phone into a mall or a kiosk and they simply burn in the new flash ROM," Sardinha says. The idea for Starium came from longtime cypherpunk and company co-founder Eric Blossom, who was inspired by the Clinton administration's now-abandoned Clipper Chip plan to devise a way to talk privately. "I got interested around the time of Clipper. I was scratching my head saying, 'This is offensive,'" says Blossom, a former engineer at Hewlett Packard and Clarity Software. Blossom created prototype devices and sold them online. But they were clunky -- about the size of a desktop modem. They were also expensive, and didn't sell very well. The company's directors include Robert Kohn, former chief counsel for PGP and Borland International, and Whitfield Diffie, distinguished engineer at Sun Microsystems and co-inventor of public key cryptography. Related Wired Links: FTC: Hands Off Net Privacy 12.Jul.99 Web Email for Your Eyes
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bruce Mcneely [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, evolution cannot be proven, the Bible thumper theory cannot be proven ... why not teach both and let the student decide which one he/she believes, or is there a third theory on the origin of humans ... There is one small problem with this idea - the evidence. I say teach evolution and special creation in proportion to their respective supporting evidence. The time alloted for special creation should be about one nanosecond. Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. The struggle isn't about proof, evidence, fairness - it's about power, nothing else. Cretinists are in a can't-win position, since their 'success' in controlling a region's school system will translate into the marginalization of graduates of those schools when they emerge into the real world of higher education and meaningful employment. Like Marxism, cretinism can't survive contact with reality-based systems, but thrives only in isolation, behind ideological walls. Yow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Diana Book
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:544471"New Diana Book/A - Subject: New Diana Book From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (*Michael* ) Date: Thu, 12 August 1999 06:05 PM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A new book says Princess Diana was in love with a Pakistani heart surgeon when she died in a Paris car crash, not with Dodi Al-Fayed, who also died in the crash nearly two years ago. Biographer Sally Bedell Smith says Diana was ready to convert to Islam to marry Hasnat Khan, and even flew to Pakistan to meet his parents, in a move that the writer says made Khan angry enough to break off the relationship. Smith writes in "Diana in Search of Herself: Portrait of a Troubled Princess'' that the princess met Al-Fayed two days after the breakup, less than two months before the car crash. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Adolf Eichmann papers found in German archive
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/memoir081299.htm A HREF="http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/memoir081299.htm"National International News -- Boston Herald .c /A - Adolf Eichmann papers found in German archive Associated Press Thursday, August 12, 1999 08/12/1999BERLIN - Adolf Eichmann, mastermind of the Holocaust, complains about an unfairly strict upbringing, describes his inability to disobey an order and ponders the meaning of life in an apparent first draft of his prison memoir released Thursday. The 127 handwritten pages, with the heading ``My Memoirs,'' were discovered in prosecution files brought to Germany after the Nazi war criminal's 1962 execution, said prosecutor Willi Dressen. ``Apparently they fell into oblivion,'' he said. Dressen heads the German agency coordinating efforts to track down Nazi crimes. Eichmann oversaw the deportation and murder of millions of Jews during World War II and promoted the use of gas chambers in death camps. He escaped to South America after World War II, but was kidnapped in Argentina in 1960 by Israeli agents and brought to Israel. The pages published Thursday were released two days after Israel announced it would hand over a 1,300-page memoir Eichmann wrote while in prison there in 1961 and 1962. A German research institution will prepare the memoir for scholarly publication. The decision to release that memoir - in which Eichmann tries to portray himself as a mid-level official who only followed Hitler's orders - came after one of Eichmann's sons, Dieter, hired a lawyer to claim the book as family property. Israel has had it locked up in its national archive since Eichmann was hanged, allowing access to only a handful of researchers. Its decision to release it with background, commentary and footnotes apparently is aimed at foiling attempts by neo-Nazis to use the text for propaganda. Dressen said he came across the earlier version Tuesday. He had decided to take another look through his thousands of files on the Eichmann case after the Berlin-based Die Welt newspaper asked him if he had a copy of the full memoir. ``We don't have that, but I found something else,'' he said in a telephone interview. He provided a copy to Die Welt, which began serializing it Thursday. In the first excerpt, Eichmann complains about how his parents treated him much more strictly than his siblings for some unknown reason. ``In no way was I a hard-to-raise child,'' he insists. He calls his father an ``absolute authority'' and describes transferring that relationship to his teachers and later to military officers. ``It would have been conceivable that the famous camel went through the eye of a needle, but it would have been inconceivable that I wouldn't have followed an order,'' he wrote. He also rambles about his quest for the meaning of life, settling on a vague ``cosmic movement'' as the answer. The rest of the manuscript, written in a tight cursive script, continues in the same ``bombastic and banal'' language and progresses to attempt to justify Nazi crimes, according to Dressen. Some historians accused Die Welt of sensationalism. Wolfgang Benz, head of the center for anti-Semitic research at Berlin's Technical University, told the Berlin newspaper Tagesspiegel that it would be better ``if a handful of historians read the text, analyze in the context of other sources, and then publish the results for the broad public.'' But Johann Michael Mueller, an editor at Die Welt, said the memoir exposes Eichmann's attempts at ``lame excuses,'' even if there are no new revelations. ``I think it would be very interesting for psychologists,'' he said. Dressen said all of his agency's Eichmann files - including the memoir - are open for research, but not to the general public. He said his agency had no plans to publish the 127-page manuscript itself, citing unresolved copyright questions. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to
[CTRL] Why 1999 may = 1929
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:544458"Re: Why 1999 may = 1929/A - Subject: Re: Why 1999 may = 1929 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 August 1999 05:23 PM EDT Message-id: 7ovdvg$oaa$[EMAIL PROTECTED] In article eCUB4HJ5#GA.357@cpmsnbbsa03, "David E. Powell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: High Stock Market, uncertain situations in Easy Europe/Russia (As in Weimar Germany and post WW1 East Europe) Vast swings up and down, trending down, with more people in than at most times beofre - with more money in... like in 1929 - people threw all their cash in on margin. Now it is E Trading... Low farm prices, as in the 1920s... farms hurting already. y2k heading towards the world,. which may not mean much, but a panic sure would. Investors make the market, after all. Don't forget the inexperienced Joe blow day traders who will now be rushing head on into the volatile $1.5 trillion Forex market. Just like blind sheep being led to slaughter. Trade hundreds of thousand dollars in Yen and Euros for a couple $1000 down right from the comfort of your own laptop. Thank God for the internet. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No accident that the twister missed the Mormon Tabernacle . . .?
-Caveat Lector- As far fetched and interesting as I may find this article to be... I can hardly believe that the Masons had anything to do with the tornado in Salt Lake City, via HAARP, or the fact that it skipped around the Mormon Temple. Coincidence? I'd say so. Anything can be 33 degrees from something else. The odds of this happening at 33 degrees are most probable on a 360 degree scaled circle around anything, muchless the Mormon Temple. There are a lot of things that are mysteriously linked to the Masons, and I believe that they are on the upsurge of moving toward their ultimate goals. But they have not moved in such an oblivious and unordered way in the past, so why would they do so now? Tornadoes are not necessarily in their scope of common underminings of the social and religious orders of the day. But one could suppose that it could happen. The Masons are into mind control and mainly education of the masses in the American Public School system, as so stated in their own creed. Why all of a sudden would they change horses in mid-stream, and move to control of the weather? especially when they've been unusually successful at controlling the masses with much less effort? It is as you've stated, a very interesting article, none the less. eagle 1 - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 9:35 AM Subject: [CTRL] No accident that the twister missed the Mormon Tabernacle . . .? -Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:544489"THE MASONS ARE AT IT AGAIN!!/A - Subject: THE MASONS ARE AT IT AGAIN!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (enigma) Date: Thu, 12 August 1999 07:35 PM EDT Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found this on a newsgroup..interesting: quote According to witnesses who were on the Art Bell's Coast to Coast AM on August 11th, 1999 the tornado touched down in Salt Lake City at 12:50 PM local time. The bizzare events surrounding this tornado, including the twister going around the Mormon temple really got my attention. So I started Redshift 3 to see if there were any interesting celestial alignments just like Richard C. Hoagland has on his "Table of Conincidence" page on his Enterprisemission website; http://www.enterprisemission.com/table_of_coincidence.htm At 12:49 PM Mountian Daylight Time, Aldebaran(the Eye of Taurus) was located at 33 Degrees above the Western Horizon as seen from Salt Lake City on August 11th. 33 Degrees is symbolic of the Masonic 33 Degrees, the highest degree attainable in the fraternity. West symbolizes death in ancient cultures which would explain the fatality caused by the twister. Taurus is symbolic of the ancient Egyptian god Seth who killed Osiris with chaos and mayhem, two attributes which were physically manifested as the tornado. The Mormon Church was originally founded in Illinois by Joseph Smith, a Freemason, and it was no accident that the twister missed the Mormon Temple in downtown Salt Lake City. So the tornado was a Masonic/Celestial Alignment/Ancient Egyptian event produced by deliberate weather modification possibly with the help of HAARP. end quote http://members.xoom.com/lokela/pages/jumbo.htm best regards.. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IRS computers Y2K Collapse - A suitably paranoid possibility...
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Patricia Neill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LJ: Fw: A suitably paranoid possibility... This could be important. Anyone have any confirmation? From: Don Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A suitably paranoid possibility... Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:50:17 -0700 Goodyear, Arizona (near Phoenix) I am paranoid; I know I am paranoid; I have found reason to distrust government far too often to not be paranoid, and I have found that carefully controlled paranoia is a real good way to evaluate circumstances for the "worst-case scenario" -- then you can figure the reality is somewhere in between the worst-case scenario and the happy, well-fed munchkin. I have had reason to believe -- I have laid out the reasons on some lists recently -- that the Internal Revenue Service wouldn't make it past July 1st of this year: Their fiscal year 2000 reportedly started July 1st. A few years ago they threw 4.5 billion dollars down the rathole in an effort to make their 64 different computer systems talk to each other through a central server, and failed miserably (actually, I think someone siphoned the budget off from the top [and the sides and the bottom and the middle], but never mind). The Chief Information Officer for the IRS (a year or so ago) said the IRS had no chance -- zero, zip, nada -- chance of surviving Y2K. He said this in so many words, in public Congressional testimony. In the normal process of shooting the messenger of bad news, the current administration (if you can call it that) fired him and hired this current guy "Rossotti," purportedly a computer expert. Approximately four weeks later Rossotti testified to Congress that the IRS had completed its inventory (which took three or four years the first time they tried it) and that Rossotti BELIEVED that WELL, MAYBE, just POSSIBLY, there was the barest CHANCE, that if Congress left the IRS alone for the rest of the year, and allowed the IRS to devote ALL of its resources to remediating the Y2K problem, that the IRS might be successful by December 31, 1999. Two weeks later (approximately) Congress passed the "IRS Reform and Re-Structuring Act", which changed something like 70% of the tax laws the IRS deals with. I checked the IRS website yesterday, and therein it is said that the IRS "expects" to be Y2K compliant by December 31, 1999. I think "in a pig's eye." But again, never mind. A few days ago I heard from someone who has been hounded by the IRS mercilessly for some time, and he says that suddenly they've gone quiet with respect to him. He also pointed out that a woman appearing on the Lou Epton talk show (out west, Nevada, I think) stated that the IRS had lost all its data. Funny I haven't heard any leaks of such a monumental screw-up. Then, today, I received an answer to one of my requests to the IRS (they hounded me for 12 years; now I am hounding them in court), and my request was denied. There are two or three grounds they might have to deny my request -- fraudulent grounds, but grounds they could use nonetheless -- but they didn't use those grounds. Instead, they said they had "no record" of my returns from 1983 to 1990 (the window of time in dispute) and denied my request for that reason. Interesting. They had "record" of those returns prior to July 1st; I have received copies of their computer files in FOIA requests. And I have date-stamped copies of the originals, so I can prove they were filed. But, apparently, _they_ can't prove it either way. Then, from another contact this afternoon, I learned that a fellow had been fighting the IRS for months, and it had finally come down to a knuckle-dragging contest, and he had caved in -- he promised to make an Offer in Compromise. He got together with his accountant and put together an Offer in Compromise, and sent it in with a check. The IRS returned the check: They said they could find no record of a tax liability. Repeat: THE IRS RETURNED THE CHECK! The IRS has never returned a check from a person listed as a "tax protester" in the history of government robbery! Okay. Now you know what I know. I certainly don't claim that this anecdotal evidence is conclusive, but it is definitely worth investigating. Do you think the IRS has "lost its data" as that woman claimed? Don't answer that; we don't need a long-winded debate or flame war over something that is irrelevant. But we do need intel, and fast. Why is it irrelevant? Because if the IRS has failed, that may be the most wonderful thing that has ever happened to this country, but to this illegal, unconstitutional, monster of a federal government, THAT is a "National Security Issue": If it is true -- or even if it is not true and government wants to pretend that it is true -- we are going to be under Martial Law within the month, possibly within a week, possibly in the next
Re: [CTRL] Federal corn!
-Caveat Lector- I apologize for forwarding ALL of these previous messages. Look, there are some people who genuinely need help because of 'whatever'. This does not include lazy, stupid or 'sorry'. There are many people who milk and live off the system. The system is broken. For those who need help and deserve it because they cannot fend for themselves due to medical reasons then that's great. That is our responsibility, I believe. For those who WANT help because they are lazy or full of excuses why they can't work...well, get a job or get a life. Most importantly, get out of my face and my pocket. Seems that individuals responsibilities do not exist anymore. So, you have 5 children from 5 different men...or, you have 5 children from 5 different women...well you, friend, have made some bad choices. Live with it. The blame is always placed on other people in these instances. No education? Well, did that person just not go to school? School is open to everyone...who is at fault? Federal Corn. This is all a rambling mess BUT, the times are changing - that is what is so enlightening. The free ride for those who abuse the system will one day end. Thus, the folks who REALLY need the help will get it - possibly more of it - and it will be less of a burden on us folks who subsidize this mess. Again, let me be clear. There are MANY people who deserve help. Let's help them if they can't help themselves. Note that there is a difference between CAN'T and WON'T. There are MANY people who get help and won't help themselves. They are lazy welfare BUMS and they are scared that the FEDERAL CORN must one day stop. I'm not very eloquent but I refuse to put up with the PC crap that goes on these days. And, there is something to be said for natural selectionit's a cold, cruel world. Eat or be eaten. Am I my brothers keeper or my keepers brother? Thoughts to ponder, dear friends. Help those who need it and are unable to do for themselves. At 03:56 PM 8/13/99 +0200, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Bonnie, I do understand your situation. The federal corn post was not intended for people genuinely needing assistance, whether temporarily or more permanently. But for those who are parasites to any socialy oriented system. And the fact of the matter is they are for more of those than any system can bear. Reason that many if not all of them are near bankruptcy. Generally people who do not like these type of socialistic systems are NOT anti-social nor do they dismiss automatically and entirely the need to help their fellow man. But, like myself, they do acknowledge and know they are other ways to effect such help more efficiently and also with much more respect for the beneficiary's human dignity. It did happened to me indeed personally and that is why I have indulged into posting this. The finality was that I have more suffered from the 'state's help' than from the situation that drove me into it! The simple facts are that in the process my human dignity was crushed, without even talking about the society's label on my back. Every single attempt to get out of it was "legally" shattered and pulled me back into dependence. This alone kills your self esteem as being worthless and unable to live a life of your own. The conclusion is that in the name of 'help' you are totally controlled by the system in every details of your life. In the name of "help" you are surrending personal freedom and sovereignty. One can bear this temporarily, as it should with real help, but if "the system" doesn't provide for getting out of it, in the long run you're dying inside, accepting to be enslaved. That is what socialism does to you. I thank God every minute to have been able to get out of it. Let's not forget that "socialism" is "soft" communism as "communism" is "hard" socialism. So in fact they are one and the same, only the manner how it is imposed on you is different. Bonnie, you are NOT one of the pigs. NEVER. Any and all lives are the most precious gifts there are. Human life is a divine sovereign gift that no one is allow to "control" neither individually nor collectively. This is what this fight is all about. Yes, there are thousands of persons, including me, that will genuinely help you. But I will never dare to "take care of you". Thank you for your courage to reply in all honesty. Hope is in everyone of us, let us spread it far and wide. Warm Regards, Frans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [theseries] Re: [bigchat] Federal corn! Well, I have to live on Federal food stamps. I am seriously injured and disabled, cannot work, and need to survive. And BIG, the one thing that I had going to help me help myself in the future, does not, after 15 months, even have my account right, with only one lonely
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 08/13/1999 10:28:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, evolution cannot be proven, the Bible thumper theory cannot be proven ... why not teach both and let the student decide which one he/she believes, or is there a third theory on the origin of humans A good idea indeed, and wouldn't it be a hoot if one day it was discovered that niether evolution of the scene set forth in the Bible were right? I'm beginning to lean to Sitchin myself. Of course that would cover both evolution and the Bible. I guess we'll just have to accept as positive that someone, somewhere is talking about something they can't see, touch or buy. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990813a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No supercolliders were damaged during the production of this bulletin. LISTOWNER NOTE: Today is 13 August 1999. Reportedly, the Aztec calendar ends today - there's no tomorrow. Some construe this as a prediction of The End Of The World. Others say that the Aztecs plagiarizing the Mayan calendar were too lazy to write down the next cycle. Whatever. If this is The Last Day, I just want to say that it's been fun. Cya --Ric _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Are you a friggatriskaidekaphobe? (CNN) Margaret Downey wants you to limbo under a ladder, waltz with anyone costumed in a black-cat outfit and break as many mirrors as you can. And she says the more superstitious you are, the better - it is, after all, the last Friday the 13th of the millennium. "Friday the 13th is complete bunk, it's nonsense," said Downey, organizer of the Anti-Superstition Carnival in Philadelphia. Those attending will be poking fun at superstitions -- and having fun in the process. http://cnn.com/US/9908/12/Fridaythe13th.ap/index.html : What's your favorite superstition? Do you avoid gatherings of 13 aliens? Do you prefer your black cats curried, BBQ'd or southern-fried? To knock on wood, do you tap your own head? Do mirrors spontaneously break around you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Life on Earth traced earlier. (AP) - Scientists studying Australian rocks have found evidence that primitive forms of life existed 2.7 billion years ago - a billion years earlier than had been previously shown. The finding pinpoints signs of life to the Archean era, the period from the beginning of Earth to about 2.5 billion years ago. That's even older than Bob Dole. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560683347-b73 : Is this evidence real, or was it planted by deities/aliens/agents to trick humans to accept evolution? Where/when would you like life to have begun??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Don't mention the gnaw. (BBC) A man bitten on the calf by a mystery woman while dancing on a table at the Munich beer festival developed the flesh eating bug, necrotising fasciitis. Calf-biting is regularly practiced at the festival as is known by the German name of Wad'lbeisser. Love at 1st bite: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_418000/418803.stm # Laptops mit Lager - The Open Source Beer Hike. Geeks from around the world gather in Bavaria to hike the hills, sip the beer, and talk about Linux. Not necessarily in that order. Watch out for flesh-eating bacteria, calf- biting gals: http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21249.html Who's behind the plot to wipe out mankind, or at least the smartest program- ming geeks, by getting them beer-drunk and infecting them? Is this another fiendish plan from Bill Gates? Will he stop at NOTHING to stomp Linux? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China accuses Falun Gong leader. BEIJING (AP) China's state media boosted attacks on the founder of a banned meditation group, accusing him of plan- ning and directing a big protest outside the Chinese leadership's Beijing HQ. Hinting that the gov't may put other group leaders on trial, state-run TV also singled out several Falun Gong organizers for their involvement in the silent, daylong protest by more than 10,000 followers seeking legal recognition. http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560682567-d7e : When will Communism fall to meditation? Can the Chinese gov't thwart the irresistible force of Falun Gong? How many folks will be executed, tortured? # The Net: Enemy of the State? You can't surf the Net in Tajikistan. A French media group declares that nation, and 19 others, to be enemies of the Internet. http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/21240.html : When will authoritarianism fall to Internetting? Can dictatorships thwart the irresistible force of the Web? How many netizens will be persecuted?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Eichmann papers found in Germany. BERLIN (AP) - Adolf Eichmann's apparent first attempt at a prison memoir has been found in files brought to Germ- any decades ago after the Nazi war criminal's trial in Israel. A German Nazi hunter came across the 127 handwritten pages two days ago. The pages titled "My Memoirs" were located in prosecution files brought to Germany after the Holocaust mastermind's 1962 execution. He only followed orders: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560683321-cb1 http://www.bostonherald.com/bostonherald/nat/memoir081299.htm : Does your belief system promote genocide? Do you compose excuses for your place in the system? Are you just a cog in the machine? Who do you grind?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Belgium McDonalds burnt to ground. ANTWERP, Belgium (AP) A McDonald's fast food
Re: [CTRL] Vincenzo Fosterini
-Caveat Lector- Any NewYorker with an ounce of brains should not even consider a vote for Hillary until the Vince Foster death is completely solved. Not to mention several other questionable practices she and her husband have been associated with! JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BIOTERRORISM MAY BE THREAT TO U.S. AGRICULTURE, EXPERT SAYS
-Caveat Lector- http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/research/archive/croppat1.htm (Note: Story embargoed until 2 p.m. ET, August 10, 1999 to coincide with presentation at the the annual meeting of the American Phytopathological Society and Canadian Phytopathological Society.) BIOTERRORISM MAY BE THREAT TO U.S. AGRICULTURE, EXPERT SAYS COLUMBUS, Ohio -- As if drought and low prices werent enough, theres a new, potential concern in U.S. agriculture: bioterrorism. What would happen if someone deliberately infected a crop with a pathogen? It hasnt happened in the United States yet, but experts think that it can, and theyre now beginning to look at the risk. Larry Madden, a professor of plant pathology at Ohio State University, said at a conference Aug. 10 that experts need to begin identifying which pathogens would pose the greatest threat to American agriculture if used by bioterrorists. The idea is if we can know which pathogens are most likely to be used, those are the ones that regulators can look out for, he said. The concern is that a disease-causing pathogen, purposely introduced into a U.S. crop, would devastate yields or contaminate the food supply. Agriculture and the economy as a whole would be hurt. People might get sick or go hungry. Madden discussed some of the issues involved in identifying the most-threatening pathogens in a symposium Aug. 10 in Montreal at the annual meeting of the American Phytopathological Society and Canadian Phytopathological Society. Madden, a world expert on plant epidemiology, talked about what makes a pathogen a risk. Among the factors: How easily it can be produced, how well it would survive and spread in this country, the types of crops that are susceptible, and the amount and type of damage it can cause. These are the types of things that matter in understanding, at least in part, whether a pathogen in a crop is important enough to be concerned about, said Madden, who works at the Ohio Agricultural Research and Development Center in Wooster. Taken together, Madden said, the factors can be used to compile a most unwanted list of plant pathogens. In fact, the U.S. government is working toward just such a goal. A recent workshop in Washington D.C. looked at ways to assess plant pathogens and their potential use in bioterrorist attacks. Madden and other scientists participated. A formal arrangement for assessing pathogens -- involving the Defense Intelligence Agency and the U.S. Department of Agriculture -- is in the works, Madden said. Soybean rust is an example of a pathogen that could blast a major crop, Madden said. Its not native to the United States. It spreads fast and ruins yields. But yield loss isnt the only threat. Some crops produce toxins when infected by certain pathogens. Even small amounts of some of these toxins can cause sickness and death in people and livestock. An attack using one of these pathogens could lead to big problems, Madden said. An entire crop might have to be screened or destroyed, even if only a small part was infected. Thats probably the scariest part, he said. A problem might not be obvious at first. And because of that, a contamination -- no matter how big or small -- could cause a loss of confidence in the safety of the food supply, Madden said. That would harm farmers, consumers and business. Furthermore, the nature of these toxins might open the door to hoaxes, he said. These (hoaxes) might be as effective as actually spreading a pathogen. If people thought that a product was contaminated, they might not buy it even if it wasnt. So whos the enemy? Madden said threats could come from nations, individuals or -- most likely -- terrorist groups. He described a scenario in which a pathogen, such as the one that causes wheat stem rust, is genetically engineered to be especially virulent. Its sprayed in the air from a single small plane. The spores -- millions of them -- last a long time and are spread by the wind. Infections produce even more spores. If the conditions are right -- and thats a big if -- an epidemic could occur. Infection of a seed source is another possibility, and Madden said its a greater risk than it used to be. Reason: A lot of the seeds planted in the United States are now grown in other countries, and fewer companies control this production. Its another factor to be aware of, he said. However, whether a bioterrorist incident ever happens -- and succeeds -- depends on many factors. Just because a pathogen causes a serious disease in one part of the world doesnt mean that an introduction into the United States is automatically a bad thing, Madden said. The climate may be different. The insect vector may not be present. There are a lot of things at play that affect the spread of a pathogen. # Contact: Larry Madden, (330) 263-3833; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Written by: Kurt Knebusch, (330) 263-3776; [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: An American Phytopathological Society press
[CTRL] I found the Cause of our Cultural Collapse [multi-part-ReadAllParts]
-Caveat Lector- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides Folks, What follows in this multi-part Post has been censored by the Media Lords; as you read it you will understand why they have suppressed it. It is essential you read the Part which contains the "Interview". An Issue this Important requires you give your full attention and COMPLETE read of these Posts. Also, and needless to say, you should do your Duty as a Concerned American and distribute this Series as far and wide as humanely possible. Caution: You may not like what your about to read, including subsequent parts. Bard *end of commentary* PART I The Crime of the Century by Fr. James Thornton Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences, by Judith A. Reisman, Ph.D., Arlington, VA: Institute for Media Education, 1998, 324 pages, paperback, $24.95. Kinsey: Crimes Consequences by Reisman - $24.95 Dr. Judith A Reisman presents voluminous and convincing evidence that Alfred Kinsey, father of the American sexual revolution, was a fraud. Beware that the author uses explicit language in order to critique Kinsey's specific methodology and data. (1998 ed, 324pp, pb) [Order] The greatness of truly great men comes from the fact that they do great things and make great changes in the course of history, motivated in their labors by high, noble, honorable purposes. For these reasons, their achievements produce lasting effects for the good. There are men of an entirely different stripe, however, who by their cunning and ruthlessness also affect the course of history, yet who by no means can be called great. In modern times, Marx, Lenin, and Stalin were such men. As with great men, the impact on the world of such figures is tremendous, but unlike great men these other men leave behind them vast stretches of ruin: ruined souls, ruined lives, ruined societies, ruined nations. They possess no higher purpose and no noble goals, and the upheavals they inspire are destructive in nature, producing lasting change in the direction of evil. In this second category of men falls Alfred C. Kinsey, the man whose life is evaluated in the present work. Patriarch of Perversion Kinsey, the founder of the Kinsey Institute for Sex Research at Indiana University in Bloomington, was born in New Jersey in 1894. He began his professional career as a zoologist, with a special interest in insect taxonomy. Later he branched out into "researching" human sexuality, and through his well-known books, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953), he was touted as "the father of the American sexual revolution." Indeed, since the appearance of those two books, and most particularly after the popular media took up Kinseys banner and disseminated, in propagandistic fashion, distillations of the supposedly scientific material from his volumes, attitudes in American society about human sexuality have undergone rapid, revolutionary changes. And while Americans received a systematic indoctrination in Kinseys radical sexual ideology, traditional views of human sexuality and traditional sexual mores came under incessant attack by Kinseyans, who characterized them as repressive and unhealthy, and who heaped scorn on them as obsolete, pharisaical, and "unscientific." Moreover, in contrast to the ceaseless drumbeat of support for Kinsey and his ideology by the mainstream media and the educational establishment, serious questions by honest scientists and scholars about Kinseys procedures, methodology, statistics, evidence, and motives have been largely ignored. Yet, putting aside traditional morality for the moment, there are some grave problems with Kinsey and his studies, problems that a relentless media whitewash campaign has done little to allay. Dr. Judith A. Reisman, having studied Kinseys life and work for many years, has made some startling judgments, among which are that, insofar as his sex studies are concerned, Kinsey was a scientific quack, that his research was rife with fraudulent statistics and scientifically worthless data, and that many of his methods, involving a significant portion of the data he collected, were blatantly criminal. "Looking back 50 years with the benefit of hindsight," writes Reisman, "it seems astonishing that the American public accepted any of Kinseys revolutionary findings, all of which not only conflicted dramatically with the public health report data but also with what Americans saw, heard, touched and knew about their homes, schools, friends and neighbors, children, wives, husbands, mothers, fathers, sisters, and brothers." What seems to have happened was that many Americans allowed their critical faculties to be anesthetized by the word "science," which they had been conditioned to believe was synonymous with truth, hard facts, and accuracy. Fraud as Science It is an elementary principle of the scientific method that scientific results, based on particular
[CTRL] Cause of Cultural Collaspe-Part II
-Caveat Lector- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides PART II The Interview Fighting the Kinsey Fraud Dr. Judith Reisman Dr. Judith Reisman is president of the Institute for Media Education and author of Kinsey, Sex and Fraud (1990); Soft Porn Plays Hardball (1991); and the explosive 1998 exposé Kinsey: Crimes Consequences. A talented musician and songwriter, she has produced educational music histories for museums in Los Angeles, Milwaukee, and Cleveland, and during the 1970s she produced music videos for Captain Kangaroo, the long-running childrens television program. Dr. Reisman received her Ph.D. in communications from Case Western Reserve University and has lectured and testified the world over to professional organizations, legislatures, parliaments, and courts regarding the power and effect of images and the media to alter human behavior. She has served as a consultant to the U.S. Departments of Justice, Education, and Health and Human Services. Dr. Reisman was interviewed by William F. Jasper, senior editor of THE NEW AMERICAN. Q. To begin with, Dr. Reisman, allow me to extend, personally, a profound "Thank you" for your perseverance over the past 20 years in your investigation of the monstrous fraud perpetrated by Dr. Alfred Kinsey and his disciples and supporters. I vividly recall, 28 years ago, while studying psychology as an undergraduate student, the frustration that I and many of my fellow students felt at being confronted with the absurd "scientific" claims of the militant sexologists for the moral legitimacy and "normalcy" of homosexuality, pornography, pedophilia, incest, sadomasochism, adultery, group sex virtually any and every sexual deviancy imaginable. Always, the "research" of Kinsey and his successors was cited to refute and silence the "moralistic" qualms of dissenters. Finally, 50 years after Kinsey burst upon the scene with such devastating impact, your book, Kinsey: Crimes Consequences, exposes not only the incredibly fraudulent "science" of Kinsey and company, but the depraved, criminal activities of Kinsey and his pedophile associates. Everyone concerned about the terrible moral and social breakdown we see all about us owes you a big debt of gratitude for your excellent work. A. Thank you, and let me also note my appreciation for the wonderfully positive review your magazine gave my book [see January 4th issue], which hasnt enjoyed a universally favorable reception. As you said, its been 50 years since Alfred Kinsey published his infamous 1948 report, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, which has so profoundly and grievously affected not only American society, but the moral, social, and political order worldwide. It is difficult to exaggerate the horrendous effects of the widespread promotion and acceptance of his work. Kinseys "research" shook Americas moral foundations and launched the Sexual Revolution in the 1960s. Its terrible results are obvious in the skyrocketing incidence of all the social pathologies afflicting us today: divorce, abortion, sexual promiscuity, sexually transmitted diseases, illegitimate births, cohabitation, pornography, homosexuality, sadomasochism, rape, child molestation, sexual crimes of all types, family breakup, endemic violence, etc. We cannot hope to reverse this destructive, downward spiral if we do not recognize and openly confront the Kinseyite falsehoods and subversive premises and ideas that undergird popular attitudes and official policies today. Q. What specific changes would you cite that most dramatically demonstrate Kinseys negative impact on society today? A. Well, I think the influences most people recognize although they may not understand Kinseys role have to do with the erosion of sexual mores and inhibitions. Im referring particularly to the erosion of morals as reflected in what is now considered acceptable in popular culture in the movies, television, books, magazines, advertisements, etc. and the steady invasion of more and more sexually explicit and pornographic material into these areas. This is troubling to a great many people because it has become so all-pervasive and is so clearly destructive. Certainly the cultural validating and "mainstreaming" of homosexuality is one of the major shifts that can be marked down as a Kinsey triumph. And the people who are trying to preserve traditional values and Judeo-Christian morality and I believe we are still the majority feel desperately besieged on all sides by this "new morality" being promoted by the small but powerful minority of artistic, intellectual, academic, and scientific elite. One of the important areas where I think my research has made a very significant contribution is in uncovering the legal subversion that Kinsey is greatly responsible for. Very few Americans have any knowledge or appreciation for the enormity of his influence in this important realm. One indicator of this is the
[CTRL] Father - Spy
-Caveat Lector- A Father and a Spy A son's memoir and Soviet cable decrypts provide different perspectives on Alger Hiss by David Ignatius - --- THE VIEW FROM ALGER'S WINDOW: A Son's Memoir By Tony Hiss Knopf, $24 - --- VENONA: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America By John Earl Hatnes and Harvey Klehr Yale University Press, $30 I've never had much use for post-modern literary theories - which are always reminding you, usually in unreadable prose, of the rather obvious point that there's no "objective" meaning to a work of literature or historical event independent of its cultural context. That kind of theorizing makes me very glad I escaped graduate school before it was too late. But these two books, both touching on the story of Alger Hiss, offer such radically different accounts that you can't help thinking that there really are different kinds of truth - conditioned by the different stances of the observers, derived from the differing nature of the evidence they cite, and ultimately incapable of speaking to each other. That's why some historical arguments never end, despite what one side regards as irrefutable factual support for its view. They can't agree on what "was" was. Tony Hiss has written a loyal and loving memoir about his father, Alger Hiss, perhaps the most famous spy in modern American history. The book's title, "The View from Alger's Window," refers to the window in Greenwich Village from which the father would gaze, before he was sent off to Lewisburg Penitentiary on a perjury conviction, and from which the son would gaze during the 44 months his father was incarcerated. Tony Hiss calls it a "time funnel." The memoir is based largely on the letters Alger wrote home to his family while he was in prison. Tony Hiss gathered the letters after his mother's death, and he has used them to recreate the kind of man his father really was - that is to say, the kind of man his son, through the letters, believes him to be. From a historian's perspective, they're the most subjective and unreliable record imaginable, since they represent Alger Hiss's attempt to explain himself to the people he loved. But they're endearing - if nothing else for Alger Hiss's absolute refusal to admit guilt, confess weakness, feel sorry for himself, or blame others. Tony Hiss says of his father's letters: "They are a window flung open wide onto a life, a bird of the spirit springing into the air, a heart made plain." The son finds in the letters nothing whatsoever that would support any notion that his father was ever a communist, much less a spy. Instead, he finds a man who made up charming stories about the wily and resourceful Sugar Lump Boy to boost his son's spirits; a man who worked lovingly over those nearly four years in prison to teach his fellow inmates to read; a man whose greatest pleasure while in prison was the simple act of writing to his wife and son. The Alger Hiss of these letters comes across as a starchy, WASP version of Roberto Benigni's character in "Life is Beautiful." It's almost as if he's inventing the world described in these prison letters to distract his wife and son from the horrific reality he was actually living through. It's touching, and you can see why Hiss' supporters stuck by him so doggedly over the years; he really does seem like a nice chap. The son asks: How could such a man have been a spy? He tries to buttress his case with the recollections of his half brother Timothy, who remembered visits to the Hiss house in the 1930s by the man who later named Alger as a spy, the former communist turned red-hunter, Whittaker Chambers. Based on Timothy's highly personal and subjective testimony, Tony Hiss describes one of Chambers' key charges as "fabricated without even a seed of truth" and agrees with Timothy's conclusion that the whole spy story was "mostly poppycock." The larger purpose of Tony Hiss's memoir, in addition to asserting his father's innocence, is to argue that prison may actually have been the best thing that ever happened to him. "Alger died a happier man with Lewisburg behind him. He got closer to other people, he got closer to his soul [J]ail is where Alger became a human being." Perhaps the ultimate crime for a son is disloyalty to his father, and Tony Hiss has certainly escaped that fate. Indeed, what's weirdly admirable about this book is its doggedly loyal obliviousness to the factual evidence of his father's guilt. In that sense, Alger Hiss would be proud of his son, who has carried the refusal to admit guilt into the next generation. - --- The other sort of evidence - what most of us would regard as the "real" evidence, is contained in Venona: Decoding Soviet
[CTRL] Cause of Cultural Collapse-Part III
-Caveat Lector- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides PART III Pedophile Confab Cal States Pedophile Confab by William F. Jasper I recently spent a day in Hell," says Dr. Dennis Jarrard. No, the good doctor was not straitjacketed in a movie theater and force-fed a 24-hour run of South Park while handcuffed to Hillary Clinton and Larry Flynt. But thats close. Actually, Dr. Jarrards testimony about his ordeal in Hades first came to light a year ago, after he had attended the World Pornography Conference in Los Angeles, an event co-sponsored by the Center for Sex Research at the California State University-Northridge (CSUN). The three-day global porn confab in August 1998 and the slimy connection of the porn racket to academe was the subject of intense scrutiny by the Joint Legislative Audit Committee of the California State Senate on July 6th of this year. The hearing, which received scant media attention, was important for demonstrating a number of crucial truths about grand strategy, tactics, battlefield landscape, imminent threats, and the correlation of forces in the ongoing culture war. Democrat Evolution The legislative hearing came about because of the efforts of conservative Republican State Senator Raymond Haynes of Riverside, who had been apprised of the conference by concerned constituents. What surprised many insiders in Sacramento was the transformation of the Democratic committee members as the hearings unfolded. Like their White House boon companion, Bill Clinton, California Democrats have been major beneficiaries of the Hustler-Playboy-Penthouse political largesse and have not been the least queasy about rubbing elbows with the Hollywood sexploiters and the radical homosexual lobby. And in the past few years they have become increasingly chummy with the hardcore porn "industry," allowing the San Fernando Valley to become the world capital of porn video production. Under Clinton, federal prosecution of pornography offenses, such as interstate commerce and postal crimes, have taken a steep dive and "adult" entertainment production has exploded, as the Larry Flynts of the world have been metamorphosed by the ACLU-Tinseltown con artists into poster children for the First Amendment. But the arrogant excesses of the militant hedonists proved too much even for the political libertines. When Senator Haynes charged that the "academic conference" was in effect a CSUN-subsidized trade show to promote and legitimize the pornography industry, the liberal Democrats who control the committee not only rallied to his cry, but took the lead in denouncing the publicly funded CSUNs sponsorship of a program to promote the abuse of women and children. Senator Steve Pease (D-Chula Vista) was outraged that CSUNs chancellor failed to appear to defend the universitys conduct. He easily gained committee approval to force CSUN to foot the cost of the estimated $50,000 it would take for state auditors to investigate the conference funding. Senator Richard Alarcon, a Democrat in whose district Northridge is located, noted that he had recently delivered the commencement address at CSUN and angrily stated that "for the first time in 18 years Im embarrassed to be a graduate of Cal State Northridge." Moreover, said Alarcon, "this very, very liberal" senator was sending a message to the Cal State chancellor that he is appalled by this "stain on the university system" and the willingness of academia to "get in bed with the porn industry." The unethical and illegal use of university funds, personnel, equipment, and resources to promote a private trade show and a porno conference at that was only one of the factors that set the Sacramento politicians fuming. What put them over the top was the revelation of the prominence of notorious pedophile/pederast/child porn advocates and defenders at the CSUN-sponsored event. Aside from "seminars" on such high-brow intellectual fare as "Visual and Carnal Pleasures of Hardcore Pornography," "Women and Pornography: Victims or Visionaries," and "What Sex Offenders Think About Pornography," there were also sessions such as the one titled, "Child Pornography: Forbidden Thoughts and Images in an Erotic Landscape," presented by Dr. Ralph Underwager, an aggressive pedophile supporter. Underwager, who masquerades as a Lutheran pastor, is a founder of the Institute for Psychological Therapies in Northfield, Minnesota. Together with his wife and fellow sexpert, Hollida Wakefield, he edits a quarterly journal, Issues in Child Abuse Accusations. In 1993, Underwager was interviewed by Paidika, the infamous Dutch journal of pedophilia. Paidika asked: "Is choosing pedophilia for you a responsible choice for the individual?" To which Underwager replied: "Certainly it is responsible Pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose. They can say what they want is to find the best way to love. I am also a theologian and as
[CTRL] Cause of Cultural Collapse-Part IV
-Caveat Lector- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides PART IV The Lavender Revolution The Lavender Revolution by WIlliam Norman Grigg Undermining America's traditional values During the 18th-century French Culture War, which ended in the French Revolution and the Napoleonic dictatorship, Christian writer Guillaume Francois Berthier described the fashion in which cultural debates had been framed: "The custom has been to call 'philosophers' those who attack revealed religion, and 'persecutors' those who battle for its defense." In contemporary America a similar custom presently prevails, in which leftists -- however violent -- are said to represent the forces of "tolerance," and traditionalists -- however peaceful -- are portrayed as agents of "hate" and "violence." This double standard is most visible in the campaign to normalize homosexuality. In the late 1980s, media analysts Marshall K. Kirk and Erastes Pill published a book entitled After the Ball, that outlined a media campaign designed to win public support for the "gay rights" revolution. Noted the authors, "The first order of business is the desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference rather than keen emotion You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing ... then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won." According to Kirk and Pill, once the public has been persuaded that moral indifference is a virtue, homosexuals would be able to use the mass media to "portray gays as victims, not as aggressive challengers. In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be cast as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to assume the role of protector." Once the public has been beguiled into believing that "decency" requires support for "gay rights," public hostility must be focused upon those who remain committed to traditional morality: At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights ... it will be time to get tough. To be blunt, [traditionalists] must be vilified The public should be shown images of ranting homophobes whose secondary traits and beliefs disgust middle America. These images might include: the Ku Klux Klan demanding that gays be burned alive or [tortured]; bigoted southern ministers drooling with hysterical hatred to a degree that looks both comical and deranged With a calculated dishonesty that would have won the admiration of Joseph Goebbels, the homosexual movement and its media allies have followed this strategy. In contemporary popular culture, any expression of opposition to homosexuality, no matter how temperate and intellectually sound, is immediately free-associated with violent bigotry. Having defined the rules of engagement in America's Culture War, the homosexual "rights" movement is proceeding with its assault upon what remains of America's sexual morality. Urvashi Vaid, former executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, issued the following directive to the "gay rights" movement in the December 14, 1993 issue of The Advocate magazine: "The Gay and Lesbian religious movement has to come out politically and create a national religious council to promote tolerance, oppose theocracy, and fight monotheism." A key figure in the lavender jihad may be the "Reverend" Mel White, who presides over the Cathedral of Hope Metropolitan Community Church in Dallas (the Metropolitan Community Church is a homosexual denomination). White made a reputation for himself as a ghostwriter in the employ of such Evangelical leaders as Billy Graham and Jerry Falwell. Even as he lent his pen to the expression of biblical principles, White surrendered himself to the indulgence of his sexual impulses. He eventually descended into the homosexual "lifestyle," leaving behind his wife of 25 years. Just a few years ago, the opinion cartel interpreted the sexual misconduct of a few television evangelists as a general indictment of the "Religious Right"; that same cartel, however, chose to interpret Mel White's sexual apostasy as a triumph of "courage" and "honesty." Talk-show host Larry King introduced his television audience to White by describing White's experience as "a story about shattered friendships and changed lives, all because of one man's decision to tell the truth." A hagiographic profile of White that appeared in the August 10, 1993 Washington Post bore the mock-ironic headline, "Mel White Gave Voice to the Christian Right. Then He Committed the Sin of Admission." The headline of a July 29th Los Angeles Times puff-piece proclaimed that White lives "In a State of Grace." Media portrayals of Mel White followed another of Kirk and Pill's recommendations: "In order to make a Gay victim
[CTRL] Zero-ing In
-Caveat Lector- SpinTech: August 12, 1999 Picture Zero Tolerance by Russell Madden A grade school boy is removed from class because he brings a plastic toy soldier holding a tiny plastic rifle to show his friends. A girl faces disciplinary action for providing a friend with an over-the-counter pain medication. Planting a kiss on a little girl's cheek leads to a tiny Romeo being slapped... with a charge of sexual harassment. Jokes? Exaggerations? The stuff of fiction? No. Simply the logical results of the latest buzzwords held so dearly to heart by the intolerant bureaucrats entrusted with educating our children: Zero tolerance. Zero tolerance of weapons at school, especially guns. Zero tolerance of drugs. Zero tolerance of inappropriate contact between a male and a female. Zero tolerance of noncompliance. Zero tolerance of common sense, proportionality, and freedom. Of course, no one suggests that children should be randomly consuming recreational or any other drugs or that packing real weapons to class is a good idea. What is lacking in the hysterical attitudes exhibited by too many of our educators and officials is the ability to think in terms of principles rather than rules. Reasonable concerns of children unwittingly consuming harmful substances or inadvertently injuring others is twisted and transformed into rigid application of rules regardless of context or facts. The putative Drug War that provides the engine for much of this absurdity is, in actuality -- as others have rightly observed -- a war on people. Because the rationale behind this assault on the citizenry cannot withstand a close scrutiny in the hard, clear light of facts and logic, those who wage this conflict retreat from the effort of focused thought and the immoral implications of their daft behavior. Safely repeating their mantra of "following the rules," they dispense with personal responsibility and blindly punish those who have committed no offense. When a nine-year-old boy is suspended for passing out breath mints; when a fourteen-year-old girl is removed from classes for bringing a prescription drug (despite carrying a note from her mother); when a thirteen-year-old is sent home for wearing purple lipstick, something beyond a desire to ensure the safety of our student population is at work. Protection from legitimate dangers does not require such heavy-handed actions as strip-searching young girls to catch a supposed thief. As is usually the case when the government is involved, conformity, control, and expansion of power over the individual motivates those who refuse to examine their own conduct too closely. This attitude of, "Don't question my authority. Do it my way because I said so. Do it because I can make you do it," will, in fact, intimidate many people into obeying even the most outrageous of commands. Other individuals, however, will witness this kind of arbitrary exercise of force, of might makes right, and begin to question the legitimacy of such leadership and the inane rules the bureaucrats seek to force down their throats. When legal adults under twenty-one are arrested and charged with OWI/DUI despite a blood alcohol count of only .02, these recalcitrant young people may recognize the blackmail inherent in the government's threats of withholding highway funds if "zero tolerance" laws for underage drinkers are not passed. The fact that such a low alcohol level poses no true danger to anyone may lead the skeptical to question the actual goals of the politicians pushing such a policy. With luck and hard work, hopefully more and more of our youth will have zero tolerance for those aspects of our culture which genuinely deserve this type of an attitude. If more citizens one day have zero tolerance for such government abuses as occurred at Waco and Ruby Ridge; if more of us begin to hold zero tolerance for asset forfeiture and the destruction accompanying the Drug War; if those questing for actual safety accept zero tolerance for gun control and the plethora of agencies -- such as the DEA, EPA, and the BATF -- demanding the right to protect us from ourselves; if every individual develops zero tolerance for violations of our Constitution and the myriad infringements of our rights both small and large, then and only then will we be able to restore balance to our social institutions and establish the freedoms and liberty we each deserve as unique and individual human beings. Russell Madden teaches speech communication at Mt. Mercy College and writing at Kirkwood College in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. He has written for The Freeman, Real Mensch, Full Context, and other fine publications. Copyright 1999 Russell Madden. From SpinTechMag AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
[CTRL] Columbian Chasm
-Caveat Lector- Publications of the Center for Security Policy No. 99-D 90 - DECISION BRIEF 13 August 1999 Hard Questions About the Coming War in Colombia (Washington, D.C.): Over the past two nights, Dan Rather, reporting from Colombia, has capped off the CBS Evening News with a stark wake-up call: The United States is becoming increasingly embroiled in the narcotics-underwritten mayhem that is engulfing that Central American nation, putting vast quantities of drugs on this country's streets and threatening to destabilize Colombia's region from Brazil to Mexico. The Shape of Things to Come As the CBS broadcast of 11 August put it: "Very rapidly in recent weeks, the following things have happened -- it appears suddenly -- to put Colombia very much on Washington's radar screen: First, the crash of a US military reconnaissance plane that killed five Americans on an anti-drug mission last month. Two of the bodies were returned today. Then, the sudden arrival of the Clinton administration's drug czar, Barry McCaffrey, who, in a reversal of policy, called for up to $1 billion to be spent fighting what he now calls narco-guerrillasThe highest level talks in Bogota in a decade were held this week between U.S. and Colombian officials. That reflects general confidence in the new Colombian government, but also alarm over the fact that an estimated 40 percent of the country is already in rebel hands. "There is also a growing fear, even among government officials, that the crisis in Colombia could spread to the surrounding countries. These nations, many of which are newly established democracies, including Ecuador, Peru, Brazil and possibly even Venezuela and Panama, can not afford to have their fragile democracies wrecked by insurgents as is happening in Colombia." This "fear" was most recently publically described by Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs Rand Beers in testimony on 6 August before the Criminal Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources Subcommittee of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight. Despite a determined effort to find grounds for optimism, Secretary Beers opened his remarks to Congress by declaring: "It is difficult to describe the current situation in Colombia without sounding alarmist. Colombia's national sovereignty is increasingly threatened by a resurgent guerilla movement, a violent illegal paramilitary movement, and wealthy narco-trafficker interests. Although the central government in Bogota is not directly threatened at this time, control over large swaths of the countryside is limited to non-existent. It is in these very areas where the guerrilla groups, paramilitaries, and narcotics traffickers flourish." A Need to Know Now that the American people and their elected representatives are being encouraged to focus on the unraveling state of affairs in Colombia, they are entitled to answers to, among others, the following pertinent questions that have bearing on Clinton Administration policies beyond Colombia: What role, if any, is Fidel Castro's government currently playing in aiding and abetting "narco-guerrillas" with which his regime has had long-standing ties? At a minimum, according to a 29 January article in the London Financial Times, the Colombian drug traffickers are using Cuba as a drug market and as a favored "cleansing route" employed to reduce the opportunities for detection, contributing to what is said to be a more-than-doubling during 1998 over previous years in the frequency of drug cargoes dropped by air traffickers into Cuba waters for pickup by smugglers. The principal destination for such narcotics is the U.S. market. Were Castro to be exploiting this opportunity to achieve two of his well-established objectives -- subverting democracies in Latin America and inflicting harm on the United States -- the case for rejecting the Clinton Administration's efforts to normalize relations with his brutal totalitarian regime (the most recent manifestation of which is the sanctioning of charter flights to Cuba from New York and Los Angeles) is all the stronger.(1) What part is Communist China playing in fomenting narco-activities that are destabilizing a key country in the hemisphere? China is no stranger to the drug trade. Its People's Liberation Army has, for example, been actively exploiting the PRC's de facto colony, Burma, for drug-running operations. In addition, given China's warming relationship with Cuba -- China is now using and improving the Cuban signals intelligence facility in Lourdes -- and its desire to further entrench itself in the United States' "backyard,"(2) it may become more closely involved in the Colombian situation, if it has not already done so. To what extent is the Clinton Administration putting at risk
[CTRL] Cause of Cultural Collapse-Part V
-Caveat Lector- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides PART V Gun Control Gun Report by Robert W. Lee Conceal-Carry Update Prior to 1987, most states either precluded the carrying of concealed handguns by ordinary citizens or only allowed conceal-carry at the whim of law enforcement authorities. In that year, however, Florida adopted legislation requiring authorities to grant permits to citizens who satisfy specific, objective licensing criteria. Similar "shall-issue" statutes have since been adopted by another two dozen states. An in-depth report released by the Washington-based Cato Institute in August, coinciding with the tenth anniversary of Floridas groundbreaking law, reviewed the history of firearms legislation, examined the pros and cons of the conceal-carry debate, and evaluated the record of "shall-issue" laws to date. Authored by New York attorney Jeffrey R. Snyder, Fighting Back: Crime, Self-Defense, and the Right to Carry a Handgun concluded: "From the available evidence, the experience of states that have enacted shall-issue licensing systems demonstrates that (a) almost no person with a criminal history applies for a permit; (b) permit holders do not become embroiled in arguments or traffic disputes leading to gun battles or take the law into their own hands (or such is the very rare exception), despite dire predictions by opponents of the laws that blood will run in the streets; (c) shall-issue licensing states have almost no problems with violent criminality among permit holders; and (d) some permit holders have used their weapons to defend themselves." Snyder stated: "As of this writing, shall-issue licensing laws are creating no reported law enforcement problem in any of the 25 states that have enacted them. After 10 years, there appears to be no reported case of any permit holder adjudged guilty of murder committed outside the home or licensees business premises (the only locations where permits would come into play) with a handgun carried in public." Exercising the Right One death can be traced to the shall-carry law which went into effect in Texas on January 1, 1996. Less than two months later, a confrontation occurred in Dallas after a delivery van and a pickup truck scraped side mirrors. In his Cato Institute study, Snyder recalls that "the drivers stopped, an argument ensued, and one man began punching the driver of the other vehicle in the head through the open window. The seated driver, a licensed permit holder, drew his gun and shot his assailant, killing him." A grand jury subsequently cleared the permittee, holding that the shooting was justified and that he had acted in self-defense. The Utah Experience On December 1st, an Associated Press dispatch in Salt Lake Citys Deseret News reported that the number of Utahns legally authorized to carry concealed handguns has increased tenfold since May 1995, when the states shall-carry policy went into effect. The bloodbath predicted by anti-gun zealots has failed to materialize. "Police," the dispatch noted, "are quick to point out they havent recorded a marked increase in incidents involving people with concealed weapons." Weber County Sheriffs spokesman Sergeant Klint Anderson was quoted as saying: "It hasnt bothered police officers a bit Its the illegally held gun that gets you." When Guns Are Outlawed... A number of recent incidents have further confirmed the common sense conclusion that gun control laws are virtually useless in keeping firearms out of criminal hands, and that our criminal system of justice is sorely in need of repair. On November 20th, Deon Bailey (one of many aliases) walked into a Chinese restaurant in Long Branch, New Jersey, and shot to death police Detective Sergeant Patrick A. King. He stole Kings handgun and police car, then led police on a 60-mile chase before committing suicide. It was subsequently learned that authorities in Massachusetts had been searching for Bailey since August 1996, when he stabbed a relative during a bar fight, and that he had since 1990 been convicted of armed robbery, assault, rape, promoting prostitution, and other crimes. He had nevertheless been set free in 1996. Gun control laws did not prevent him from securing both the gun with which he killed Officer King (a .38-caliber revolver which had been stolen in 1995 from a Massachusetts businessman) or Kings own service firearm. On December 1st, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, a self-professed atheist, killed three girls and wounded five other students after a pre-school prayer session at Heath High School in West Paducah, Kentucky. The next day, a spokesperson for Handgun Control, Inc. attempted to exploit the tragedy during a CNBC interview, but could not explain what gun laws might have prevented the tragedy. As pro-gun activist Neal Knox, who heads the Maryland-based Firearms Coalition, has observed, Carneal "was prohibited from possessing the gun
[CTRL] Cause of Cultural Collapse-Part VI
-Caveat Lector- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides PART VI Beware the Child Protectors by William Norman Grigg When Salt Lake City police and caseworkers from the state Division of Child and Family Services (DCFS) surrounded the home of Janet Adolf on June 4th, they were not responding to an accusation of child abuse or neglect. The armed raid had been staged to seize Mrs. Adolfs eight-year-old daughter, who wasnt at home although her three terrified siblings were. According to Mrs. Adolfs attorney Michael Humiston, the order had been issued because he had advised caseworkers of his intention to monitor their visits to Mrs. Adolfs home in order "to protect Janets rights." As the case is described by Humiston, Mrs. Adolfs problems began when her eight-year-old daughter was "intimidated" into making allegations of sexual abuse. Although the familys original caseworker, Kirk Soderquist, "tried to tell the court that there was no basis to the allegations," the youngster was removed from her home and temporarily placed in foster care; Soderquist was removed from the case and replaced with another caseworker. "What Rights?" After a month in a foster home, the child was returned to Mrs. Adolf and a second caseworker was assigned to make regular home visits. Humiston left a message with DCFS announcing his intention to "coordinate" the visits, so that he could be present to protect "the familys Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights." According to Humiston, when this was explained to Judge Sharon McCully of Utahs Third District Juvenile Court who issued the order that led to the June 4th raid she exclaimed, "What rights?" Humiston, an attorney from Heber City, Utah, contends that the State of Utah has conducted "a systematic reign of terror." "By law, parents can be anonymously accused, and never get to face their accusers," observes Humiston. "Theres no right to a jury, no right to remain silent, and no presumption of innocence. Worst of all, all proceedings are conducted in secret. The State regularly terminates parents rights without ever showing that the parents are unfit." In early March, Humiston filed a $500 million class-action suit against Utah Attorney General Janet Graham and several other state officials on behalf of five families whose children had been seized by the DCFS. According to Humiston, the amount of damages sought in the lawsuit is equivalent to the amount of child welfare subsidies received by the state of Utah since 1994. The situation described by Humiston is by no means unique to Utah. Across the United States, thousands of families have been ripped apart by child "protection" bureaucracies. Parents in such circumstances find that if they have been "hot-lined" that is, reported anonymously by a dutiful citizen, teacher, or acquaintance they enjoy none of the rights and immunities associated with due process. Acting in the "best interests of the child," social workers can terminate parental rights on a whim, and order police agencies to enforce those whimsical decisions at gunpoint. Even more ominously, child "protection" agencies across the nation, following a totalitarian blueprint and fueled with taxpayer dollars, are seeking to create a compulsory "home visitation" system, through which agents of the state will be able to subject parents to regular scrutiny and determine whether or not children, as "state property," will be permitted to remain with questionable parents. Supporters of this concept have worked stealthily for nearly a quarter of a century to create a national home visitation network. Should they succeed, armed raids similar to the one mounted against the home of Janet Adolf may become quite common. "Village" Takeover During her recent "listening tour" of central New York State, Hillary Rodham Clinton had scheduled a visit to Elmira to call attention to that citys "early childhood intervention program" the Pre-natal and Early Infancy Project (PEIP). Christopher Caldwell of the neo-conservative Weekly Standard, who covered the First Ladys Senate campaign swing, explained that PEIP is a child abuse program that "involves sending social workers on regularly scheduled pre-emptive visits into the homes of children whose parents are deemed to put them at risk of wrong parenting." In her ghostwritten manifesto It Takes a Village, Mrs. Clinton gushes, "I cannot say enough in support of home visits" by government social workers. After all, she declares, "Keeping children healthy in body and mind is the familys and the villages first obligation," and in those "terrible times when no adequate parenting is available the village itself must act in place of parents. It accepts those responsibilities in all our names through the authority we vest in government" Insisting that in matters of suspected abuse or neglect of children, "a childs safety must take precedence over the preservation of a
[CTRL] Statists Three
-Caveat Lector- Three Statists by DON MATHEWS [Posted August 11, 1999] No doubt the typical proponent of freedom and free enterprise, being of good manners and peaceful disposition, would sooner put his head in a bucket of rats than read All Too Human by George Stephanopoulos, Locked in the Cabinet by Robert Reich and Behind the Oval Office by Dick Morris. These books are chronicles by three government men of their years with the Clinton presidency, American democracys celebration of the abject. Why would a friend of liberty want to get more of this sorry episode by reading these books? One good reason: Know Your Enemy. Stephanopoulos, Reich, and Morris are statists. But each is a statist of a different type. Their chronicles offer an opportunity to plumb three classic varieties of the statist mind. George Stephanopoulos was a top aide to Bill Clinton between 1992 and 1996. The Stephanopoulos-type statist has a history and a tradition that is as old as the state itself. In todays America he has the esteemed title of senior advisor to the president. He is a celebrity, envied and fawned over by the political class. A political operative and round-the-clock propagandist, this brand of statist makes his living by doing what it takes to enrich the power of his monarch, his dictator or his president. He is an elite stooge. Stephanopoulos tells us in All Too Human that the pistons of [his] character are restrained idealism and raw ambition. What he has raw ambition for is government power. He loves being near it, being part of it and wielding it, for its own sake and for the celebrity that it brings. He rationalizes his ambition for power with this restrained idealism: Because I believe in original sin, because I know that Im capable of craving a cold beer in a village of starving kids, because I understand that selfishness vies for space in our hearts with compassion, I believe we need government -- a government that forces us to care for the common good even when we dont feel like it, a government that helps channel our better instincts and check our bad ones. People who have a lust for the power to impose their will on others are rare in society. Invariably, they wind up in prison or in government. Stephanopoulos chose the government route. Without a doubt, Stephanopoulos has a desire to serve the common good, and he believes in the power of politics to help people. But All Too Human reveals that Stephanopoulos hooked up with government not from a desire to help people but from a desire for power, the kind of power that only politics and government can offer. It is egoism, not altruism, that drives the political stooge. Power corrupts, and the people most corrupted by power are the people who want it most. As the stooge ascends in the ranks and gets closer to power, his character changes. He grows even more infatuated with himself. The stooge who makes it to the ranks of the ruling elite takes on a different character altogether. Assisting the head of state govern over the masses, he sees himself as inherently different from them. He sees himself as genuinely elite, and he sees the masses as instruments of his will. Exercising power in the name of the state, he sees the state as an extension of himself. He works to expand the power of the state because in doing so he expands his own power and affirms his vision of himself, and he is burdened by no scruples in attacking any opposition that threatens his power. All Too Human is the story Stephanopoulos tells about an elite stooge corrupted by power. It is a story not about Bill Clinton, but about himself. Robert B. Reich, the Secretary of Labor during Clintons first term, is a familiar type of statist. He is the social engineer, ever ready with government intrusions to heal our hurting nation. And, Reich tells us in Locked in the Cabinet, our nation is hurting bad. We are fast becoming two cultures--one of affluence and contentment, the other of insecurity and cynicism. Most Americans are worried about their jobs, their wages, their futures, their kids futures--worried that the American Dream of upward mobility may be just a dream. The middle class has become an anxious class. (His italics.) Sweatshops are back in America. Thats a daunting heap of crisis and woe for even the most determined social engineer. And Reich is one determined social engineer. Theres so goddamn much to be done, he writes. (Again, his italics; I guess statists have a thing for italics). Academic-bureaucrat Reich is a determined social engineer because he cares about the economically anxious and overwrought--the pawns of capitalism, the proletariat and the army of the unemployed. We know he cares about these people because he tells us so on every other page of his book. Sometimes he tells us several times on the same page. And if one cares--truly cares--there is no option
[CTRL] GOVERNMENT BOOT STOMPING ON HOME SCHOOLING FAMILY
-Caveat Lector- PLEASE RESEND THIS EMAIL TO YOUR EMAIL LISTS AND TELEPHONE THESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND ASK THEM TO GRANT THIS FAMILY A ZONING VARIANCE FOR JUST A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, UNTIL NEXT SUMMER. -Original Message- From: Norm Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 7:44 AM To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Press Releases -- Breaking It Lose Please. I need everyone's help to distribute this material. Please send it to every organization that is involved with land rights, Y2K planning, child abuse prevention, everywhere. The following are the Press Releases sent last night. If any recipient has the ability to forward these press releases to media or interests that might be interested in a headline such as: "JUDGE RULES Y2K PREPARATIONS ILLEGAL, PUTTING FAMILY OF EIGHT IN PERIL" then by all means, please get these press releases out. If any recipient wants to call the tyrants who are destroying this family, here are the principles: Bill Westcott, Township Supervisor 231-634-7372 Clover Schlund, Clerk (the leader of the pack, also the next door neighbor to the Stitts. Can't stand the Stitts and their animals as neighbors. Uses position as Clerk to foment persecution of them) 231-634-7500 Gary Wagner, Trustee 231-634-7240 David Rittinger, Zoning Inspector 231-634-7260 Cheryl Stevenson, Treasurer 231-634-7200 Lani White, Trustee (who is also the teacher who stands to lose her salary because the children were withdrawn from the school) 231-634-7440 The Press Releases: PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contacts: Norman Olson, 231-548-5878, Mike Chris Stitt 231-634-7030, Clover Schlund, Township Clerk 231-634-7500, Bill Westcott, Supervisor, 231-634-7372, Township Attorney c/o Peck Assoc. 906-635-6286 Island Officials May Try to Block Militia on Saturday Emergency Strategy Meeting by Township Held Echoes from Ruby Ridge and Waco heard Bois Blanc Island, MI (August 12) - An emergency meeting of the Bois Blanc Township board was called today to plan a strategy to deal with the Northern Michigan Regional Militia. Graham Whipple, Sheriff of Bois Blanc Island attended. What started as a show of support to a beleagured family may be taking on a more ominous and frightening spectre. The militia is determined to stand with Michael and Christine Stitt and their six children in opposition to a Township Board and the County that is waging a war of persecution against them. On Saturday, August 14, the militia will attempt to assemble on the Stitt's property. Last week, the commander, Norman Olson and chief of staff, Ray Southwell went to the island to measure the severity of the problem and the potential for confrontation. Olson said in a press release Thursday, "I can tell you that this situation is becoming frightenly like Waco and Ruby Ridge. We have a family being driven into the ground by a vindictive and hateful government body. The family is determined to stand their ground. They have no choice, no where to go, no one to help. The court and deceitful lawyers have forced this family into a corner. If they comply and dispose of all their animals and garden, they place their children at great risk. If they refuse to comply they will be arrested and jailed for contempt and possibly lose their children. They've asked me for help. I can't say no. The battlelines are forming and escalation may result in another armed standoff...this time with well trained militia defending a helpless family. I'm deeply troubled that this little matter might turn into another Waco or Ruby ridge. It starts like that, you know, and before we can stop it, it takes on its own energy. In the aftermath, we analyze where the mistakes were made and we vow to prevent it from happening again. Well, it is happening and I'm trying to stop it." The problem has a simple solution, but the township board refuses to negotiate with Olson who offered to withdraw the militia if a 1-year variance or waver is granted to the Stitts to keep their animals and buildings and garden on their 37-acre property on Bois Blanc Island near Mackinaw. "Is it too much to ask that a frightened family be given one year to ride out Y2K? Is it too much to ask that the children be told they can stay and that mom and dad are not criminals? Is a township board so insensitive that it cannot understand that people are frightened about Y2K and the animals and garden are the means of preparation to survive?" On Saturday, the militia will go to Bois Blanc Island. No one knows what to expect between now and October 7, the deadline imposed by the District Court of Mackinaw County. Olson said late Thursday night,
[CTRL] John Trochmann and the Militia of Montana (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:30:02 -0500 Citation: Esquire July 1995, v124, n1, p46(5) Author: Voll, Daniel Title: At home with M.O.M.(Militia of Montana paramilitary group) by Daniel Voll COPYRIGHT Hearst Corporation 1995 BABY KILLER] BABY KILLER]" the voice on the phone snarls into the ear of John Trochmann, fifty-one, cofounder of the Militia of Montana, as he picks up the receiver at his headquarters in tiny Noxon, Montana. "We are going to burn you out]" The voice sounds long-distance, but Trochmann can't tell exactly. The man described by The Washington Post as the "guru of the American militia movement" looks scared. These calls have been coming in constantly in the four days since the bombing in Oklahoma City. Taped to a wooden drawer underneath Trochmann's desk is a paper labeled, in his neat script, FBI SNITCH LINE, followed by an 800 number. He's going over to that desk and he's going to get Mr. FBI on the phone. He dials. "One of your citizens is threatening me and my family again," he says to the agent in charge of the Missoula, Montana, office. John sounds like Clint Eastwood. And with his heavy brow and patriarch's beard, he looks like a baldish John Brown. The agent says something that makes Trochmann laugh tautly. He'll drive up in a few days. Perhaps they can take a walk in the woods. Trochmann hangs up the phone. "Ha]" he says. "I'm going to take a walk in the woods with my government." The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms are viewed by most militia members as jackboots of the New World Order. Yesterday, Trochmann was informed by his "intelligence network" that the FBI had issued warrants for him and the other cofounders of the Militia of Montana, his brother Dave and Dave's son Randy. But something unexpected has happened. Just talking to a government agent has the fierce John Trochmann purring like a kitten. "I've known this agent for years," he says. "We have this glitter in our eye for each other and a handshake that about breaks the other's hand off. Of course, I haven't forgotten who he works for." The rest of the people in the room don't seem to be as charmed with Mr. FBI as John is, but they're not against dialogue. "The more we're a mystery, the more they can justify coming at us," says Randy Trochmann. Randy is twenty-seven and has the look of a rodeo cowboy. Between drags on an American Spirit cigarette, one boot up on a desk, the other on the concrete floor, he says, "Our fear of being arrested is never returning, or being declared psychologically unfit and being shipped off to an institution." If a federal warrant is delivered, Randy fears the FBI will grandstand--helicopters overhead, troops crouched behind trees. "One false move triggers a shoot-out," he says. He has already sent his wife and baby to stay with relatives. Bob Fletcher, Trochmann's minister of information, enters the room, hunched and wearing suspenders over a white shirt, a .380 tucked into his flesh-colored belly holster. A former gumshoe for the Noriega defense, he is the latest addition to the Trochmann gang, originally signing on eight months ago as a conspiracy investigator. "U. S. News World Report is saying we're fucking satanic worshipers." His hands are shaking. "Good thing I'm not in New York or you'd see one fucking son of a bitch with his ass fucking kicked." MOM headquarters is up a dirt road, past tin-roofed houses and empty corrals. It looks like an oversize green machine shed from the outside. This is command central. Locals call it "the compound." John Trochmann has lived in this area for seven years. He came from Minnesota, where he manufactured snowmobile parts with his brother. Until a year ago, he made his living as a master mechanic. His specialty now is setting up covert guerrilla cells around the country. He calls it "networking," part of a longrange leaderless-resistance strategy. For this reason, Klanwatch regards him as one of the most dangerous forces in the militia movement. Two afternoons ago, when John heard that Tim McVeigh was being charged with the bombing, he rifled through his membership file, pulling out recipe cards from an old red suitcase, searching for McVeigh's name. He contacted Mark Koernke, head of Michigan's unorganized militia; Randy called Norm Olson, head of Michigan's organized militia. Carolyn, John's wife, talked to survivalist Bo Gritz in Arizona, who'd been quoted that day in the press, saying the bombing was "a Rembrandt." Goddamn, is he one of ours? John received an alert from Michigan's command post; the official spin would be that McVeigh may have attended a meeting or two, but the militia had kicked him out for being "too radical." Koernke, or "Mark from Michigan," the shortwave voice of the militia movement, spent ten days here in
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- Whether or not the Protocols are genuine or a forgery is irrelevant. The text exists and can be reviewed by anyone who so chooses. When reading the Protocols, I find the general message becomes more clear if the every appearance of the word Jew is substituted with Illuminati and the words Goyim and Gentile are substituted with the word cattle (cattle meaning the general population). ANY mention of ethnicity and/or race only serves as a vehicle for distraction and obfuscation (this is a bad thing). Dano Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yadda-yadda-yadda ... Third-hand now-discredited sources whose SPECULATIONS have somehow transmuted into "facts." Not a shred of genuine historical evidence exists to support most of this. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Torture cells allegedly found on US built Military base (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:26:34 EDT Honduras Finds Torture Cells at Base .c The Associated Press By FREDDY CUEVAS TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) - A U.S.-built military base in Honduras contains cramped metal cells apparently used to torture and kill political prisoners, a top Honduran official said Thursday. The cells - along with dozens of possible grave sites - were discovered this week at El Aguacate air base in eastern Honduras, which the United States built for Nicaraguan Contra rebels in 1983. It was also used by Honduran army troops. ``In the middle of overgrown brush at El Aguacate, we found six sites with tombs and metal cells where we believe the army tortured, killed and buried its victims,'' Sandra Ponce, Honduras' attorney general for human rights, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from the base. The freestanding cells, which Ponce said are big enough to hold two or three people each, appear to further challenge claims by Honduran army officials that ``nothing is hidden'' at the base, 80 miles east of the capital, Tegucigalpa. ``We suspect there are more than 48 graves in the area, holding the remains of an undetermined number of people buried there in the 1980s by the military,'' Ponce said. Reporters will not be given access to the site until forensic experts from the United States and Germany have examined it. Authorities had announced the discovery of the first grave site containing unidentified human remains earlier this month. One of the apparent grave sites measures 500 yards in length, and may hold victims of executions by the Contras, a rebel force the United States created and trained to fight the leftist Sandinista government of Nicaragua from across the border in Honduras in the 1980s. But Ponce said her investigation is limited for now to the 184 disappearances - most of them Honduran leftists - attributed to the Honduran army. ``Starting next week, we'll dig there to look for more evidence,'' Ponce said. ``In other areas of the base, it looks like dirt has been moved by the army, possibly to destroy evidence.'' Among the graves could be the remains of American priest-turned-guerrilla James Francis Carney, who disappeared in 1982, Human Rights Commissioner Leo Valladares said. Authorities had announced the discovery of Carney's remains in May, but later said they had been mistaken. Valladares has blamed the armed forces for operating a death squad trained by military personnel from the United States, Taiwan, Nicaragua and Argentina. In July, provincial military chief Col. Leonel Pavon denied reports of clandestine graves at the base, saying ``nothing is hidden in El Aguacate ... and any authority can prove what I say.'' The armed forces governed Honduras for almost 20 years after ousting three civilian presidents in 1957, 1963 and 1972. They abandoned power in 1982, although they still hold great influence in the country. AP-NY-08-12-99 1633EDT -- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A new look at Di's woes
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www7.mercurycenter.com/premium/ent/docs/grape12.htm Published Thursday, August 12, 1999, in the San Jose Mercury News A new look at Di's woes From Liz Smith in New York `EVERY HUMAN being is a divinity and can only be a divinity if there are dark aspects in him as well,'' said Hans Werner Henze. The late Diana, Princess of Wales, was a human being, certainly divine, in her way, and more than burdened with dark aspects. The latter are to be fully covered in Sally Bedell Smith's new book ``Diana in Search of Herself: Portrait of a Troubled Princess.'' For those of you who are interested, Smith's book is juicily excerpted in not one but two major magazines next week, W and People. To be accurate, People has an excerpt. W's Julie Belcove interviews Smith and catalogs a lot of the book's racy stuff in her profile. Smith's jaundiced take on Diana is that she was a severely emotionally disturbed young woman: desperately insecure, manipulative, controlling, self-pitying, a ``borderline personality.'' The writer also concludes that her 32-day romance with Dodi al-Fayed was hardly the great love of her life. Well, geez, what else is new? I think Diana's problems were fairly obvious to anyone with eyes and ears. And as I wrote in the immediate aftermath of her death, it was her modern, up-front neuroses, her movie-starish need to share all her pain with her ``fans'' that made her such an irresistible heroine and media magnet. How much of her psychic pain was exacerbated by life with Prince Charles and his cold-blooded family? Quite a bit, I'd venture. How would she have ended up had she not married Charles? It would have been a life lived outside the heat and fury of world fame. Ah, and there's the rub. Diana's ascension to media icon gave her, for a brief period, a respite from her demons. Smith insists it wasn't her intention to dig up dirt or to ``rake muck.'' Hm! I suppose, like Mount Everest, Diana's life is ``just there'' and open to all climbers. That's fame in the almost 21st century. From Marilyn Beck, Stacy Jenel Smith and Stephanie DuBois in Hollywood === from: http://detnews.com/1996/menu/stories/72843.htm November 4, 1996 Di's heart said to beat for cardiac specialist Reuter LONDON -- Britain's Princess Diana has fallen "desperately" in love with a 36-year-old Muslim heart surgeon and wants him to become her second husband after heir to the throne Prince Charles, a British newspaper claimed Sunday. The Sunday Mirror linked Diana, 36, to Hasnat Khan, an unmarried British-based cardiac specialist whose family lives in Pakistan. And it quoted a "friend" of the Princess as saying she hoped he would father a half-sister to her two sons, Princes William and Harry. "The Princess is desperately in love," the tabloid quoted the friend. "On the one hand, she wants the world to know. But on the other hand, she is understandably concerned that her enthusiasm may send him running." The newspaper said the Princess met Khan just over a year ago -- well before her divorce from Charles was finalized. The newspaper said her affections for Khan explained a number of surprising developments in the Princess's life -- her regular night-time visits to the Royal Brompton to comfort patients, and trips to Pakistan and Australia. Copyright 1996, The Detroit News = from: http://www.internet-inquirer.com/discus/messages/52/115.html By Ann on Tuesday, April 13, 1999 - 03:37 pm: Some bits from ' Diana - the Secret Years. simone says that Khan was the true love of Diana's life. thei relationship began in the Autumn of 95 Diana would often wear a wig and store bought clothes to go out on the town with Khan who after all would recognise a dark haired woman in anonymous clothes out with a slightly over weight Asian man" Diana believed that she could live a normal life as plain Mrs Khan in Australia or America, she even had friends look at prospective properties in those countries. she introduced the boys to Hasnat some months after they had been close. although her sons were both predictably polite to him, william took a mature attitude telling her that the relationship was OK with him' if it makes you happy mummy, but Hasnat was uneasy. As Diana told me, he wasn't ready to become the step father of two very self possessed adolescents", and especially not william the heir to the throne." she however driven by the desire to have a little girl remained optomistic that things could work out. Diana may have indeed been indulging in wishful thinking. both before and after her death Hasnat, whilst speaking of the princess with the warmest respect and affection, has said that no such plans had been made. Late one spring evening in 97 journalist from all over the world had tracked Hasnat down after Diana had visited his relatives in Pakistan. and he had told Diana he wanted to 'step away' Diana
Re: [CTRL] Warren Beatty Weighs Run for Presidency (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message August 12, 1999 AP Actor Warren Beatty Weighs Run for Presidency By RICHARD L. BERKE Warren Beatty, who played a senator crazy enough to speak the truth in "Bulworth," said Wednesday that he was considering running for president in 2000. Beatty, who has been active in the Democratic Party for years, made it clear that he was displeased with Vice President Al Gore and former Sen. Bill Bradley, the current candidates for the party's nomination. "It's no secret that I am a liberal Democrat," Beatty said in a telephone interview from his home in Los Angeles. "I have some very strong feelings, the most important of which at the moment is campaign finance reform because its tentacles reach into every other issue. I fear we're getting closer to a plutocracy than we want to, and I believe that deep down the people want to do something about that." Hinting that he would position himself as a liberal alternative or even run as an independent, Beatty acknowledged that he has had discussions with liberals who have helped Jesse Jackson in past campaigns. They include Steve Cobble, a former political director for Jackson's National Rainbow Coalition, and Robert Borosage, who has worked for progressive advocacy groups. He also has spoken with Ellen Miller, who heads Public Campaign, a Washington organization that has called for reforms in the campaign finance system. "He's thinking about this very seriously," Ms. Miller said in an interview. "He's thought a lot about it in the last few weeks. There's a hunger out there for a nonpolitician. And he is increasingly angered by the choice of candidates." Beatty emphasized that he did not consider himself the best candidate, but he did not seem ready to rule himself out. "There certainly should be someone better," he said. "That's not to say that I don't have very strong feelings on a lot of things that aren't being spoken." Beatty suggested that he had been approached about running. "It's kind of an awkward thing," he said. "I don't think anybody should be in a position of having to say, 'Please don't say things like this to me.' I want to be very respectful of the people who have made the suggestion to me." He also said that people should not question his commitment to the issues or his understanding of politics, saying, "I've been active in politics for 35 years." Beatty said he would not respond when asked whether he had been approached by representatives of Gov. Jesse Ventura of Minnesota to run for president on Ventura's Reform Party ticket. Asked what ticket Beatty wants to run on, Ms. Miller said, "It could be Democratic, Reform Party or independent." Throughout two interviews Wednesday, Beatty was skittish about discussing his intentions, but resisted several opportunities to dispute that he had designs on the White House. "If I said to you, 'This is something that I would be considering,"' he said, "then your headline is, 'It's something I would be considering."' Arianna Huffington, a syndicated columnist, raised the notion of Beatty's candidacy in a column that was published on Tuesday. She quoted a close friend of the actor, former Sen. Gary Hart of Colorado, as saying, "I have a notion that Warren could dramatize politics in a way that hack politicians never could." _ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wedding Jitters / Tony Blair is an Alien / more ... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Wedding Jitters / Tony Blair is an Alien / more ... M O J O U R N A L News from the MoJo Wire and Mother Jones magazine Week of August 10 - 16, 1999 http://www.motherjones.com/ T O P S T O R I E S *Wedding Jitters* - In California, gay-rights activists are fighting the same-sex marriage battle on two fronts: one against conservative Assemblyman Pete Knight's Defense of Marriage initiative, and one against the ambivalence of the gay community. http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/wedding.html *Tony Blair is an Alien!* - Their confidence broken, Serbs are looking increasingly to the paranormal for comfort. From the Institute for War Peace Reporting. http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/kosovo/paranormal.html T H E S C O O P ___ NATO's own Experts: Bombing was a failure; Cleveland's Klu Klux Karma; Detroit's grand porno drawer http://www.motherjones.com/scoop/scoop23.html M U S T R E A D S MoJo Wire editors' picks from around the Web, uncovering the stories and viewpoints you haven't heard. Updated daily. NEW THIS WEEK: Study: Abortion reduces crime * Puerto Rico to Navy: Get out of Vieques * Cockburn on Colombia http://www.motherjones.com/mustreads/ Last week's Must Reads: http://www.motherjones.com/mustreads/080299.html S N A P P O L L ___ THIS WEEK: What recent even caused protesters to organize a boycott of Burger King? 1) The restaurant's beef suppliers are cutting down the Brazilian rain forest to graze cattle. 2) Burger King decided to open up a restaurant in the Israel-occupied West Bank. 3) The chain has started injecting its burgers with prune extract. 4) It offers low wages and poor working conditions. 5) One patron contracted a flesh-eating virus after eating a Whopper. VOTE AT: http://www.motherjones.com/index.html#poll LAST WEEK: In which American city is the city government considering a proposal that would make it illegal for anyone to sit or stand on curbs or in medians for more than five minutes? The guesses: 30.74% said New York 24.15% said Washington D.C. 19.96% said San Francisco 14.17% said Chicago 10.98% said Seattle The answer: San Francisco M O T H E R J O N E S __ We are now posting articles from the July/August issue. http://www.motherjones.com/mother_jones/JA99/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] White Slavery Cult
-Caveat Lector- 15 Accused in Prostitution Ring By DAVID SCOTT .c The Associated Press ST. LOUIS (AP) - For years, a prostitution ring lured girls and young women from across the Midwest into a life of illicit servitude and forced them to remain there with beatings, torture and rapes, the FBI says. After a two-year investigation, authorities on Thursday unsealed a 44-count federal indictment accusing 15 members of the Minneapolis-based ``Evans family'' of crimes ranging from money laundering to illegal transport of minors. Nine people were arrested Thursday and six remain at large, said William Eubanks of the FBI's St. Louis office. Police also seized five homes and six luxury cars, including three Mercedes Benz. Since 1982, members of the ring - eight of whom are related - allegedly enticed girls as young as 14 to work for massage parlors and escort services, the FBI said. The girls were often runaways from the Midwest, though some came from regular homes, authorities say. The ``family'' would force the girls into road trips to 23 other states and Canada, earning an estimated $1 million annually for the ring, said Detective Joe Delia of the Maryland Heights, Mo. police, which helped the FBI break the ring. ``This is as close to modern slavery as you can get,'' Delia said. The investigation began in 1997 when police became suspicious after stopping two prostitutes near St. Louis, authorities said. Within two months, the FBI was asked to help. The charges were filed here because the ring was discovered in the St. Louis area. Investigators have identified at least 50 women involved in the operation over the past 17 years, including 27 involved as minors. Most were lured into the ring at shopping centers and dance clubs, seduced by initially kind treatment only to be later submitted to beatings, torture and rape, authorities said. ``The Evanses would place ads for girls (to be) exotic dancers or lingerie models and go anywhere young kids hung out,'' said police Sgt. Andy Schmidt. Later, he said, ``they would also shame them into staying, telling them that their families would never take them back because of what they did. It was almost like a cult.'' Some escaped after a few weeks, but others remained in the ring for up to seven years, Eubanks said. One 15-year-old prostitute told an investigator: ``I'd rather be dead than doing what I'm doing.'' Authorities say the family used cell phones and pagers to keep track of the prostitutes. One girl told police she took her pager to middle school. ``They were very skilled at picking them up when they were most vulnerable,'' Minneapolis police Detective Andy Schmidt said. ``It's kind of like a cult, they break them down. It's brain-washing.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] School of the Americas ties to Pinochet (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- National Catholic Reporter Jan 15 1999, v.35, 11, 11(1) Author: HODGE, JAMES Title: Priest testifies to School of Americas ties to Pinochet. by JAMES HODGE and LINDA COOPER COPYRIGHT 1999 National Catholic Reporter Ever since Augusto Pinochet was arrested in England at the request of a Spanish judge, apprehension has spread through the U.S. military and intelligence agencies that supported the former Chilean dictator's overthrow of a democratically elected government and helped set up DINA, his dreaded secret police organization. While it is public knowledge that the Nixon administration encouraged the coup that toppled Salvador Allende, thousands of documents showing the full extent of U.S. involvement remain under the seal of national security. But last month a U.S. priest who testified before the Spanish judge highlighted an element of the Pinochet saga that has not received much notice: that the U.S. Army School of the Americas trained key officers in the Pinochet regime, which killed more than 3,000 people and tortured thousands more during its 17-year reign. After coming to power, Pinochet presented the school with a ceremonial sword that hung in the commandant's office until the early 1990s. The military academy, once known in Latin America as "the school of coups," was long accused of teaching torture and tyranny. In 1995, the Pentagon partly confirmed those charges by releasing pages of the school's manuals that advocated false imprisonment, extortion, torture and assassination. While it is not clear how extensively Spanish Judge Baltazar Garzon will investigate U.S. complicity in the Pinochet case, Fr. Roy Bourgeois of Louisiana said the judge was quite interested in the School of the Americas, now headquartered at Fort Benning, Ga. Bourgeois, who heads a watchdog group that tracks school graduates, delivered hundreds of documents about alumni to the court. Four Chilean graduates of the school charged by the Spanish court with crimes of genocide, torture and disappearances -- Miguel Krassnoff Marchenko, Jaime Enrique Leppe Orellana, Guillermo Salinas Torres and Pablo Belmar Labbe -- have been implicated in the 1976 murder of Spanish U.N. official Carmelo Sofia, whose neck was broken during a torture session, according to several accounts. Leppe Orellana was Pinochet's personal secretary, while Belmar Labbe has been a guest instructor at the school. Bourgeois said two other alumni charged by the court -- Odlanier Mena and Humberto Gordon Rubio -- are former heads of the secret police agency known as CNI, which replaced DINA in 1977. Other school graduates also charged by the court include: * Ernesto Baeza Michelsen, who led the assault on the presidential palace during the coup and later headed the Investigations police, which has also been linked to human rights abuses; * Eduardo Iturriaga Neumann, the former head of DINA's international operations. The agency has been implicated in assassinations of Pinochet's opponents living in other countries; * Fernando Laureani Maturana, a former DINA member implicated in kidnappings and disappearances. DINA, which operated secret torture centers around the country, was given technical assistance by a deputy CIA director, according to A Nation of Enemies, an account of the Pinochet years by Pamela Constable. Pinochet, the only Latin American figure to back England in the Falklands War, was arrested in October after arriving in London for back surgery. He is currently living in a mansion near London, awaiting a new British court ruling on whether he must face extradition to Spain, where Garzon wants to try him on charges of murder, torture and kidnapping. At least 79 Spanish citizens died at the hands of the Pinochet regime. Pinochet, who had a blanket amnesty enacted in Chile protecting him from prosecution there, claims he enjoys immunity as a former head of state. While Switzerland, France and Belgium are supporting the call for Pinochet's extradition, U.S. officials have not joined them, although three American citizens were killed in the coup, including Charles Horman whose disappearance formed the basis of the movie "Missing." Another U.S. citizen, Ronni Moffitt, was killed in Washington in 1976 by a car bomb that targeted former Chilean foreign minister Letelier. Bourgeois, who said that U.S. silence stems from its collusion with the Pinochet regime, also testified about Operation Condor, the code name for an intelligence network created by DINA. Through it, Latin American militaries collaborated in "neutralizing" their opponents and political refugees living abroad. Letelier's murder is considered a Condor operation. Among the militaries participating in the operation were Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Bolivia. In 1972, Maryknoll
[CTRL] Meter Running on China/Taiwan
-Caveat Lector- U.S. Wonders What China Will Do WASHINGTON (AP) - Chinese officials have been sounding out U.S.-China specialists for their opinion on possible Chinese military action against Taiwan following Taiwanese assertions that Beijing and Taipei should be treated as equals. Douglas Paal, president of the Washington-based Asia Pacific Policy Center, said he had been visited separately by Chinese military, government and academic representatives. He described the meetings as ``much more intense'' than interviews that he regularly has with them. He said China regards the current difficulties with Taiwan as being much more serious than the situation in 1996 when Taiwanese President Lee Teng-hui engaged in a campaign to gain greater international recognition for Taiwan. Paal said the Chinese asked how the administration might respond to various possible situations but avoided describing specific scenarios that might suggest what they were considering. He said they talked about the possibility of capturing small, outlying Taiwanese islands, then appeared to back away from that option as too ambitious. They also raised the possibility of attacking ships. Paal added that the Chinese seemed to be carrying out a cost-benefit analysis. ``They're in the process of trying to make a decision, and they want to know what the outcome would be,'' he said. At another point, Paal said the Chinese approaches to U.S. experts ``may part of psychological warfare or just saber rattling, or an attempt to keep us busy while they attack Taiwan.'' James Mulvenon, a Chinese army expert at the Rand research organization, said he also was approached by Chinese emissaries. ``They walk in with the same message,'' Mulvenon told the Washington Post. ``We're going to do something. We can't tell you what, but we're going to do something. ``The goal for China would be to cause maximum impact in Taiwan without bringing in the United States,'' he said. William Triplett, a China expert and former chief Republican counsel on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said China has been dropping hints in Far East newspapers for the past month that some form of military action against Taiwan may occur. Such articles have been seen in Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Japan and Hong Kong, Triplett said. He said any military action against Taiwan would have a ruinous impact on China's efforts to build relations with the outside world, including the United States and European countries. ``It would all go down the tubes,'' Triplett said. Meanwhile, an administration spokesman denied news accounts that China warned the Clinton administration about possible military action against Taiwan. ``We have not received any threats or ultimatums from the Chinese,'' National Security Council spokesman David Leavy said at the White House. Unidentified administration officials told the New York Times that Washington has warned Beijing that any military action would force the United States to retaliate. Leavy declined to speculate on what he called a ``hypothetical military operation.'' Chinese Embassy spokesman Yu Shuning said he was unaware of any contacts by embassy officials with China experts on the Taiwan issue. He repeated China's long-standing policy that it seeks peaceful reunification with Taiwan but does not rule out the use of force. To do so, he said, would make peaceful reunification impossible. The Post said the White House believes it's unlikely that Beijing would launch any military action before October to avoid spoiling a meeting next month between Clinton and Chinese President Jiang Zemin in New Zealand. ``I don't think they'll do it soon, but I can't say they won't do it at all,'' a senior administration said. White House officials said military action could range from striking Taiwan to seizing an unpopulated island belonging to Taiwan. The newspapers said the warnings have come from lower-ranking Chinese officials and not from China's top leaders. The lower-level officials may have been gauging how the United States might respond, or may have hoped the Clinton administration would urge Taiwan to back down, the reports said. ``Obviously we're watching the situation closely, and we have been in touch with both sides on a number of occasions over the last several weeks,'' Leavy said. ``Both sides recognize the danger in the situation. Our policy is the same - it's one China.'' For more than a week, military aircraft from China and Taiwan have been flying over the 100-mile-wide straits separating Taiwan and the mainland. The opposing planes have not tangled, but Leavy said the United States is urging both sides to back off. ``These are how accidents happen, and we've made that clear,'' Leavy said. China has considered Taiwan a rogue province for 50 years, since Nationalist forces retreated to the island in defeat after battling Communist forces on the mainland. China has refused to renounce violence to force Taiwan
[CTRL] Uncle Sam's School for Sadists (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Citation: U.S. Catholic Oct 1998, v63, n10, p15(1) Author: Clarke, Kevin Title: Let this school out for good.(School of the Americas, Fort Benning, GA; trains right-wing terrorists for repressive Latin American regimes)(Margin Notes)(Brief Article)(Column) by Kevin Clarke COPYRIGHT 1998 Claretian Publications BILINGUAL EDUCATION HAS BECOME the center of furious debate around the country since California recently outlawed the mother tongues of most of the planet. While impassioned educators swear at each other in a variety of colorful dialects elsewhere, at least one bilingual education program plods ahead without arousing much attention. In fact, over the last 50 years nearly 60,000 well-armed noncitizens have stomped in and out of this academy at an approximate cost to U.S. taxpayers of $4 million a year without launching so much as one budget hawk or "English-only" proponent into an artery-bursting fury. Leave your cattle prod at the door and step into the School of the Americas (SOA) in Fort Benning, Georgia. If you're not familiar with this particular center of higher learning, it may be because the SOA prefers to keep a low profile. Unfortunately, some of its graduates don't share that philosophy. Armed with an SOA diploma and usually some firepower courtesy of Uncle Sam, they've returned to their native soil to offer a sotto voce "go ahead" or directly participate in some of the more egregious human-rights violations on record. SOA graduates have been so prolific the school is known to Latin Americans as the "school of coups" and "the school of the assassins." You may have read about some of the more spectacular final projects of these students. In El Salvador alone, SOA graduates were involved in the rape and murder of three American nuns and a lay volunteer and the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero in 1980, and the 1989 liquidation of a group of meddlesome Jesuit priests and their housekeepers. The American government established the predecessor to the School of the Americas in 1946 in Panama with the purported aim of building up the professionalism of Latin American militaries. It remains unclear if the death squads, disappearances, and the general mayhem and gore associated with SOA graduates reflect the failure or the success of that mission. Most of the SOA's graduates come from Colombia, a nation with the dubious honor of being the Latin American country most cited for human-rights abuses. The three highest ranking officers convicted in the 1992 murders of nine Peruvian University students and their professor were SOA graduates. Roberto d'Aubuisson--an architect of Salvadoran death squads and the man responsible for Romero's brutal killing--is another graduate, as were Panamanian bad boy Manuel Noriega and Guatemala's Julio Alpirez, who allegedly ordered the murder of American Michael Devine in 1990. In the past, U.S. policymakers were able to persuade themselves that international communism was a threat that required resistance whatever the means. The school has provided a training ground for the proxy troops who would conduct a rear-guard action against the communist menace on behalf of Uncle Sam. They included Salvadoran and Guatemalan soldiers who defended their patria in particularly brutal civil wars against a Marxist threat most often manifested by unarmed Catholic clergy and theologically empowered but otherwise unarmed campesinos. These days international communism doesn't maintain the same fearful grip on the public imagination as it did 30 years ago. Lately congressional supporters of SOA have concocted a new justification for the school's continued existence, arguing that it is crucial to maintaining the professionalism of the actual war on drugs in Peru, Bolivia, and Colombia. But if it is a campaign against drugs that U.S. policymakers truly want to conduct, wouldn't it be more effective--or at least more seemly--to direct it at the cocaine-snorting source of the problem here in the U.S. rather than at peasant farmers in the Peruvian highlands? OTHER SUPPORTERS SAY THAT THE SOA HAS BEEN a force of stability and democratization in Latin America. But that argument does not stand up too well to the evidence of 40 years of coups and chaos throughout the region. And "Democracy Studies" was only recently tacked onto the SOA catalog after bad press in the early '90s. The 1996 revelation that CIA torture manuals have been part of the school's long-standing reading list may indicate what is more typical of the school's curriculum. However SOA supporters rationalize its continued existence, its unpleasant past suggests that the future military campaigns of SOA graduates will most often be directed against their fellow citizens. But I am not here
[CTRL] Dancing the Dance to Freedom (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message --- Citation: The Humanist July 1999, v.59, 4, 22 Author: Eilerman, Marge Title: Dancing the Dance to Freedom.(activities of the School of the Americas) by Marge Eilerman COPYRIGHT 1999 American Humanist Association I believe that all of life is much like a ballet. Special moments and special people move in and out of life giving it movement and grace. Lights and shadows are made to take center stage as the dance goes on. One of those special moments in my life was a four-year missionary stay in Chiapas, Mexico. Without a doubt, those years formed a strong basis for my convictions regarding the School of the Americas. Although my Mexican venture served as a foundation, the experience of traveling to Fort Benning in Columbus, Georgia, in August 1996 was the spark plug that engendered the energy to become interested in this particular issue. On that particular day, 400 nuns from across the United States came to the entrance of the army military base to conduct a prayer service, asking for the close of the SOA and pledging to continue to bring the institution and its program to light. It was during this time of prayer, and upon seeing the conviction of all those gathered there, that I decided it was important to also become involved. From that moment, I began climbing the ladder of Martin Luther King Jr.'s four steps of civil disobedience: collection of the facts to see if injustice exists, negotiation, self-purification, and direct action. For the next several months, I tried to learn all I could about the SOA; its antithesis, the School of the Americas Watch; and the situation in Latin American countries. I learned that the SOA was established in Panama in 1946 as the Latin American Training Center--Ground Division. It was quickly dubbed the "School of the Assassins" and was removed from Panama in 1984 to comply with the terms of the 1977 Panama Canal Treaty and relocated to Fort Benning. The curriculum includes thirty-three courses. Students are nominated by their own nations. And tuition is funded, at least in part, by U.S. taxpayers. Over its fifty-plus years, the SOA has trained over 60,000 soldiers, police, and government personnel, mostly from Latin America. According to its website, the mission of the school is "to provide doctrinally sound, relevant military training and education to the nations of Latin America; promote democratic values and respect for human rights; and to foster cooperation among the multinational military forces." In 1961 President John F. Kennedy altered the original mission so that the SOA was "to provide instruction necessary to the nations in Latin America to thwart armed Communist insurgencies." In 1989, "when the guerrilla thrust subsided due to the collapse of the former Soviet Union," the curriculum shifted to focus on supporting the primary foreign-policy goals of the United States in the region. SOA Watch took a different view of what the school was truly about. Founded by activist Father Roy Bourgeois in 1990, SOA Watch has been leading the struggle to close the school. His first up-front and personal involvement with the military began as a naval officer in Vietnam. He later became even more intimately involved in U.S. foreign policy as a Maryknoll missionary to Bolivia. It was his work there with political prisoners and their families that eventually led to his arrest and expulsion under threat of death in 1977. Bourgeois first focused on the SOA in 1989 after the murder of six Jesuit priests and two female co-workers in El Salvador. A United Nations commission later found that nineteen of the twenty-six people participating in the attack were SOA graduates. Three Salvadoran graduates were also convicted in the 1980 rape and murder of four American churchwomen: three nuns and a laywoman. Graduates have been tied to human rights abuses in Chile, Mexico, Colombia, Guatemala, Honduras, and other Caribbean countries. SOA Watch and other proponents of closing the SOA continued to express fear and belief that the army-run school was training students in torture. This allegation was repeatedly denied by school personnel. SOA Watch claimed that the school trained its students in "low-intensity" counterinsurgency techniques. Through vigils, fasts, demonstrations, and media and legislative work, SOA Watch sought to alert the U.S. public to the brutal consequences of SOA training. In September 1996, in the face of intense pressure from religious and grassroots groups, the U.S. State Department revealed that there were seven manuals in use throughout the military that were deemed inappropriate. One manual, Handling of Sources, states: "The counter-intelligence agent must offer presents and compensation for information leading to the arrest, capture or death of guerrillas." Another manual, Terrorism
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-08-13 13:12:38 EDT, you write: Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. I am not a believer of a God, nor do I believe that my ancestors were monkeys, maybe yours were, but not mine. So, you think that science wins by default, that their monkey theory is any better than the God created it all theory? I think not. If the scientific theory is correct, how do you explain how that first ameoba was created to produce the universe, and if the "big bang" theory is correct, where did the material from the big bang come from? Evolution is taught in schools because the socialist-nazi types are in control and they do not want anyone to believe in an authority that is more powerful than themselves ... they see this as a barrier to having complete control, guns are also a barrier to control. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. Seems to me you have this a little backwards. The scientific types want everyone to accept their theory as fact, when, in reality, it is no more fact than creationism. If as you say the "creationist demagogues" are engaging in sophisticated disinformation to sway the beliefs of political bodies, then why is it that prayers are not allowed in schools, the killing of another human being is allowed (abortion), and they (government) champions the "rights" of homosexuals, pedofiles and the "rights" of convicted criminals rather than the lack of rights of their victims? Seems to me the "Scientists" gain ground on a regular basis through the use of force and massive disinformation, for they are in control. The struggle isn't about proof, evidence, fairness - it's about power, nothing else. Cretinists are in a can't-win position, since their 'success' in controlling a region's school system will translate into the marginalization of graduates of those schools when they emerge into the real world of higher education and meaningful employment. Cretinists? You, who espouses the "implant theory?" Contol ... Hmmm! Interesting that when one State is allowed to vary their school subjects, then they are controlling ... what of the other 49 States who control a subject opposite to the one State ... just who do you think is doing the controlling? It is maginalization to teach that our ancestors were not monkeys? You could be correct, seems to me that most officials in government (their intelligence anyway) resemble monkeys rather than man. Does this mean if you are a Christian, Moslem, Jew, Buddist, etc. that you cannot obtain meaningful employment or higher education? This is highly unusual to have a serious discussion on the sceptichats list rather than jokes about implants. Didn't mean to rant a little, but a had a few minutes to spare before work. Bob Stokes Like Marxism, cretinism can't survive contact with reality-based systems, but thrives only in isolation, behind ideological walls. Yow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Echoes of the Third Reich-Mind Controlled Mass Shooters and Gun Control
8.13.99 Never mind that it's Friday the 13th. There's something a lot more scary going on. A NewsHawk reader CC'd me their letter to Clinton Administration chief bruiser and all-around tough guy Janet "The Hulk" Reno, which I've reprinted below. He has put together a BRILLIANT, utterly RIGHT ON deposition which just cuts right to the HEART of a most crucially important matter. I'm referring to the fact our friendly federal government, thoroughly beholden to and controlled by New World Order masters and infested with and administered by multitudes of vicious, Nazi/Socialist spooks, is responsible for the current and ongoing TERRORIZATION of our country with mind controlled, MK-Ultra/"Manchurian Candidate"-type zomboid (mass) murderers and assassins, enacted in an all-out effort to stampede the nation into accepting DRASTIC increases in restrictive, fascistic federal gun control. This of course will be preceded by federal gun registration, and will be FOLLOWED by CONFISCATION. This is EXACTLY the tactics used in Germany after the Nazis got in a position a power. Registration, THEN confiscation. Things went pretty easy after that for Adolf and the brownshirt vermin for quite a while, as they pursued their genocidal agendas. Firearms have been in existence for several hundred years, and in the U.S. and many other countries the population has enjoyed relatively free access to these weapons. Yet NEVER before in the history of HUMANITY has there been such a relentless and almost inconceivable spate of incomprehensible and extraordinarily brutal mass murders as we are now seeing. That's NEVER. This can be stated as CERTAIN based on years of study in world history and sociology. This is absolutely NOT any genuinely ABNORMAL human behavior we are seeing here with these mass shooting incidents. This is NOT some kind of mass psychosis that happened to overcome all these shooters. What we are seeing here is a mass triggering and unleashing of mind controlled murderers upon the public by the powers that be, for the purposes noted above. Now THINK about this for a minute. We all know that criminals as well as mind controlled murderers use guns to commit crimes. We also know that the vast majority of people, whether they do or don't own firearms, are IN FACT relatively law-abiding folks. So if the feds mandate gun registration as a prelude to wholesale gun confiscation, most decent, law-abiding folks will trot on down and tell the social controllers everything they want to know. Great. Now what goofball in their right mind would think FOR A SECOND that the CRIMINALS (OR the MK-Ultra shooters!) are ALSO going to scoot their miserable butts on over the designated registration center and sign up! I mean, is anybody in the U.S. THAT stupid (yet)? And then the feds, using the gun registration data, can EASILY come and confiscate every gun possible from the general population. So there is going to be a disarmed and helpless population TOTALLY at the mercy of the hordes of criminals AND mind controlled murderers who still HAVE firearms. THEN, the New World Order government can enact virtually anything they wish upon this utterly defenseless population without the slightest fear of genuine, active opposition; without the merest hint of a fight. Just THINK about this scenario for a second. If that doesn't scare the living hell out of you, you're already toast; braindead. Jews, Christians and other races/religions/ethnic groups in PARTICULAR should remember how the Nazis utilized these same tactics in the onset of the Third Reich. DON'T think it "can't" happen again. It already is. John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Here's what this reader had to say to Reno. Subject: Bait Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:02:34 -0500 From: xxx To: John Quinn'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thought you might like to see what I sent to JR today. Let's see if she bites. I'll let you know. August 13, 1999 Ms. Janet Reno Attorney General of the United States U.S. Department of Justice Main Justice Building, Room 5224 950 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, D.C. 20530 Dear Ms. Reno: I'm a veteran, a retired Army officer. I've never been a criminal before, but the President's and your comments concerning mandatory gun registration combined with the current political climate, in which emotion is overcoming reason, lead me to the terrifying conclusion my conscience may soon turn me into a felon. I've never endangered anyone with anything, most especially a firearm. But I won't register even one. Adolph Hitler enacted complete gun registration when he came to power, and we know what happened after that. History has taught me, and I still take seriously my oath to defend the people of the United States and our Constitution. I won't participate in your plan, which will turn otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals and is rife with potential for abject evil. So have you given any thought to the correct
[CTRL] Having a bad day?
-Caveat Lector- This was an article in the CALIFORNIA EXAMINER,March 20, 1998: Fire authorities in California found a corpse in a burnt out section of a forest while assessing the damage done by a forest fire. The deceased male was dressed in a full wet suit, complete with a dive tank, flippers, and face mask. A post-mortem examination revealed that the person died not from burns, but from massive internal injuries. Dental records provided a positive identification. Investigators then set about determining how a fully clad diver ended up in the middle of a forest fire. It was revealed that, on the day of the fire, the person went for a diving trip off the coast-some 20 miles away from the forest. The firefighters, seeking to control the fire as quickly as possible, called in a fleet of helicopters with very large buckets. The buckets were dropped into the ocean for rapid filling, then flown to the forest fire and emptied. You guessed it. One minute our diver was making like Flipper in the Pacific, the next, he was doing a breaststroke in a fire bucket 300 feet in the air. Apparently, he extinguished exactly 5'10" of the fire. Some days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed. STILL THINK YOU'RE HAVING A BAD DAY? THINK AGAIN. The following is taken from a Florida newspaper: A man was working on his motorcycle on his patio and his wife was in the house in the kitchen. The man was racing the engine on the motorcycle and somehow, the motorcycle slipped into gear. The man, still holding the handlebars, was dragged through a glass patio door and along with the motorcycle, dumped onto the floor inside the house. The wife, hearing the crash, ran into the dining room, and found her husband laying on the floor, cut and bleeding, the motorcycle laying next to him and the patio door shattered. The wife ran to the phone and summoned an ambulance. Because they lived on a fairly large hill, the wife went down the several flights of long steps to the street to direct the paramedics to her husband. After the ambulance arrived and transported the husband to the hospital, the wife uprighted the motorcycle and pushed it outside. Since gas had spilled on the floor, the wife obtained some paper towels, blotted up the gasoline, and threw the towels in the toilet. The husband was treated at the hospital and was released to come home. After arriving home, he looked at the shattered patio door and the damage done to his motorcycle. He became despondent, went into the bathroom, sat on the toilet and smoked a cigarette. After finishing the cigarette, he flipped it between his legs into the toilet bowl while still seated. The wife, who was in the kitchen, heard a loud explosion and her husband screaming. She ran into the bathroom and found her husband lying on the floor. His trousers had been blown away and he was suffering burns on the buttocks, the back of his legs and his groin. The wife again ran to the phone and called for an ambulance. The same ambulance crew was dispatched and the wife met them at the street. The paramedics loaded the husband on the stretcher and began carrying him to the street. While they were going down the stairs to the street, accompanied by the wife, one of the paramedics asked the wife how the husband had burned himself. She told them and the paramedics started laughing so hard, one of them tipped the stretcher and dumped the husband out. He fell down the remaining steps and broke his arm. Now THAT is a bad day... _ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] John Trochmann and the Militia of Montana (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- From: William Hugh Tunstall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Citation: Esquire July 1995, v124, n1, p46(5) Author: Voll, Daniel Title: At home with M.O.M.(Militia of Montana paramilitary group) by Daniel Voll COPYRIGHT Hearst Corporation 1995 BABY KILLER] BABY KILLER]" snip Bob Fletcher, Trochmann's minister of information, enters the room, hunched and wearing suspenders over a white shirt, a .380 tucked into his flesh-colored belly holster. A former gumshoe for the Noriega defense, he is the latest addition to the Trochmann gang, originally signing on eight months ago as a conspiracy investigator. Bob Fletcher owned a business here in Atlanta which made a toy puppet which looked something like a "muppet". He was fairly successful, but needed capital. He thought he was lucky to be approached by a company which wanted to invest in his business. However, it turned out to be an Oliver North front which used his business for gun running. He first testified before Congress about this during the Iran-Contra hearings. He ended up losing his business. Notice that the author of the above article doesn't characterize Fletcher as a former toy manufacturer. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: The Week Online with DRCNet, Issue #103
The Week Online with DRCNet, Issue #103 - August 13, 1999 A Publication of the Drug Reform Coordination Network PLEASE COPY AND DISTRIBUTE (To sign off this list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line "signoff drc-natl" in the body of the message, or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. To subscribe to this list, visit http://www.drcnet.org/signup.html) This issue can be also be read on our web site at http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html. URGENT COLOMBIA ALERT: http://www.wola.org/uadrugs.html TABLE OF CONTENTS 1. Medical Marijuana Under Siege, Making Slow Progress http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#undersiege 2. Baltimore Study Finds Needle Exchange Effective http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#baltimorenep 3. Interview: Dr. Joel Brown on the Status of Drug Education in the United States http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#joelbrown 4. Beyond Prohibition: Cato Institute Conference to Feature New Mexico Governor http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#catoconference 5. Methamphetamine Bill Contains Anti-Free-Speech Legislation http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#methbill 6. Newsbriefs http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#newsbriefs 7. Job Opportunities http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#opportunities 8. Washington Video and Speaker Series Concluding Next Week http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#seriesconcluding 9. EDITORIAL: Killing the Bad Guys http://www.drcnet.org/wol/103.html#editorial 1. Medical Marijuana Under Siege, Making Slow Progress Medical marijuana advocates were angered by the trial, conviction and sentencing of B.E. Smith, a Vietnam veteran who used marijuana to treat post-traumatic stress syndrome (PTSD). Smith, who considered his marijuana use and cultivation to be legal under Proposition 215, had informed local police and county officials, and posted a sign in his garden identifying it as a medical marijuana supply. Smith was prosecuted by the federal government in the District Court in Sacramento, California. US District Judge Garland Burrell forbid the defense from addressing the issue of Smith's medical marijuana need, caregiving (providing marijuana to other documented patients), or Prop. 215. Burrell's disallowing of much of the defense's case led to a sharp exchange between Burrell and actor Woody Harrelson, who almost drew a citation for contempt of court. Harrelson asked Judge Burrell, "I'm just wondering why you're keeping the truth from the jury... How can you sleep at night?" At sentencing last week, Judge Burrell rejected requests by the defense to sentence Smith to the low end of the federal guideline range, and by the prosecution to use the middle of the guideline range, and instead sentenced Smith to the maximum possible sentence, 27 months, calling Smith "beyond rehabilitation" and saying he had no remorse and would probably grow marijuana again as soon as he got out of prison. Smith told the court that "[e]very day I spend in prison will be seen by me as another day in the service of my nation," and exhorted members of the public to help pass laws "that will allow people to use an herb provided by nature to alleviate their terrible and cruel suffering, made worse by cruel legislators, prosecutors and judges whose actions add to this suffering by punishing those who would provide such medicine to these patients." On July 6, police in San Diego arrested Steve McWilliams, founder and organizer of the Shelter from the Storm Cannabis Collective, and another patient and member of the collective, identified only as Tom. McWilliams told Zenger Magazine that the San Diego police and the Narcotics Task Force destroyed all of the Collective's plants, despite them being individually labeled for individual patients. McWilliams, who moved from his native Colorado to take part in the 1996 campaign for Proposition 215, was on probation for a previous conviction. Judge Kenneth So, however, who sentenced McWilliams to probation last spring, also ruled that McWilliams had a right to grow marijuana for his own personal consumption. McWilliams suffers from head, neck and shoulder injuries from automobile accidents in 1986 and 1992. According to the San Diego Tribune, a dozen collective members addressed a meeting of the City Council late last month. Michael Bartelmo, a wheelchair-bound quadriplegic, told the Council that Collective members are "trying our darndest to follow the law... but we can't if police officers, the City Council or others in authority won't tell us what the law is." Councilmember George Stevens called the confiscation of the group's plants "an urgent situation," and asked the city manager and attorney to report back with a clarification from the police on medical marijuana within 30 days. Meanwhile, the trial of Steve Kubby, recent Libertarian candidate for California governor, and Michele Kubby, has been postponed until February,
[CTRL] Fw: Kansas Science Standards Controversy
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Jim Giglio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Skeptix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 1:00 PM Subject: Kansas Science Standards Controversy The Washington Post had an article Sunday about a proposal under consideration by the KS state board of education, which they adopted a day or so ago. The impression left by the article was that the creationists have gotten their ideology written into the science curriculum in that state. Similar views have been expressed on this list and SKEPTIC. Curious, I went to the board's web page: http://www.ksbe.state.ks.us/outcomes/science.html What's listed is a July 1999 draft, which I downloaded and skimmed. I simply couldn't find anything in it that indicates creationist influence on the content of teaching. Maybe the draft isn't what the board adopted; if so, can somebody locate the final document? I've appended chunks from the draft below; it appears to be a fairly standard and sensible approach to natural selection and evolution, incorporating a reasonable philosophy on dealing with possible student religious objections. === THESE EXCERPTS ARE ABOUT 1/10 OF THE TOTAL DRAFT: Kansas Science Education Standards Fifth Working Draft July, 1999 Teaching With Tolerance and Respect Science studies natural phenomena by formulating explanations that can be tested against the natural world. Some scientific concepts and theories (e.g. blood transfusion, human sexuality, nervous system role in consciousness, cosmological and biological evolution, etc.) may conflict with a student's religious or cultural beliefs. The goal is to enhance understanding, and a science teacher has a responsibility to enhance students' understanding of scientific concepts and theories. Compelling student belief is inconsistent with the goal of education. Nothing in science or in any other field of knowledge shall be taught dogmatically. A teacher is an important role model for demonstrating respect and civility, and teachers should not ridicule, belittle or embarrass a student for expressing an alternative view or belief. In doing this, teachers display and demand tolerance and respect for the diverse ideas, skills, and experiences of all students. If a student should raise a question in a natural science class that the teacher determines to be outside the domain of science, the teacher should treat the question with respect. The teacher should explain why the question is outside the domain of natural science and encourage the student to discuss the question further with his or her family and clergy. Neither the Kansas Constitution nor the United States Constitution require time to be given in the science curriculum to accommodate religious views of those who object to certain material or activities presented in science classes. Nothing in the Kansas Statutes Annotated or the Kansas State Board Regulations allows students (or their parents) to excuse class attendance based on disagreement with the curriculum, except as specified for 1) any activity which is contrary to the religious teachings of the child or for 2) human sexuality education. (See Kansas Statutes Annotated d and State Board Regulations 91-31-3:(g)(2).) Grades 5 - 8 Benchmark 5: The students will observe the diversity of living things and relate their adaptations to their survival or extinction. Millions of species of animals, plants and microorganisms are alive today. Animals and plants vary in body plans and internal structures. Biological evolution, gradual changes of characteristics of organisms over many generations, has brought variations in populations. Therefore, a structural characteristic or behavior that helps an organism survive in its environment is called an adaptation. When the environment changes and the adaptive characteristics are insufficient, the species becomes extinct. As students investigate different types of organisms, teachers guide them toward thinking about similarities and differences. Students can compare similarities between organisms in different parts of the world, such as tigers in Asia and mountain lions in North America. Instruction needs to be designed to uncover and prevent misconceptions about natural selection. Students tend to think of all individuals in a population responding to change quickly rather than over a long period of time. Using examples such as Darwin's finches or the peppered moths of Manchester helps develop understanding of natural selection over time. (Resource: The Beak of the Finch by Jonathon Weiner). Providing students with fossil evidence and allowing them time to construct their own explanations is important in developing middle level students' understanding of extinction as a natural process that has affected Earth's species over time. Indicators: The students will: 7-1. Conclude that millions of species of
Re: [CTRL] Warren Beatty Weighs Run for Presidency (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- from search of deja.com for "beatty" Subject: The Rothschild Illuminati Family Date: 1999/05/18 Author: B.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to: alt.bible.prophecy The Illuminati goal had been to split the U.S. into two easier to control nations. And just as with JFK, who also came from a top 13 family, a large scale conspiracy Involving many government officials including the Secretary of Defense was put into place to assassinate Lincoln. There are numerous indications that show that the Rothschilds were in part behind the assassination of Lincoln. Some of the men who worked for the Payseurs of the 13th top family were Andrew Carnegie, J.P. Morgan, the Vanderbilts, Giftord Pinnchot, and John D Rockefeller. These men were selected to run Payseur companies because they belonged to the satanic elite. The Leroy Springs family got Payseur family companies in the early 1920s. It was Leroy that managed to get the Rothschilds involved with the Federal Reserve. Two companies that have come out of the Payseurs old Lancaster Manufacturing Co. ins Weyerhaeuser and Crown-Zellerbach. I have long known these were companies tied to the elite, but it wasnt until i found the secret Payseur family at the very top of these companies that I really understood the full story. The Payseurs have gone to extreme lengths to corrupt government documents, such as courthouse records. They have hidden the births of many of their descendants, and have covered over with extreme secrecy most of their monetary holdings. Remember the Beatty family was an early railroad family with business ties to the Payseur family. Bartholomew F. Moore, who was the private attorney for years to President Abraham Lincoln, was a blood relative of the Beatty family. It was Bart Fingers Moore who co-authored the 14th amendment for the conspiracy. The Beatty family continually resurfaces when doing research on the conspiracy. Shirley MacLaine, the famous New Age leader/author is from the Beatty family. She credits her start to Edgar Cayce by the way, who in turn was interested in Blavatsky. Blavatsky was a student of the Mason Anton Mesmer, who introduced the world to hypnotism. Hypnotism had been secretly practiced by the Mystery Religions for thousands of years before Mesmer taught Blavatsky and others about it. Charles Beatty Alexander, who is an Illuminati ,, prince/Pilgrim Society member is an example of a Beatty in recent times who was within the elite. Quantrill, who was a famous Confederate colonel and guerilla leader, whose band of raiders evolved into the Jessie James gang was married into the Springs (Rothschild) family The recent lala Madelyn Payseur Gatling Fulghum (1876-1972) was the late head of the Payseur family. The documentation on the above families is extensive, but much of the evidence that has been photocopied out of the few documents left intact have been destroyed since the documents were photocopied. The amount of tampering with official documents is incredible, and further Illustrates the enormous power the Rothschilds and the Payseurs (the 13th family--the Holy Blood line) have. The researchers who wrote Holy Blood, Holy Grail got a taste of the power of the 13th blood line to manipulate documents held by libraries and governments in Europe. The same type of thing has been happening in the United States. The researcher into the Satanic elite has a hard row to hoe because the Satanic families have tried to cover their tracks through history. They have also tried very hard to cover up what their financial assets are. Those Rothschilds who have carried on the Rothschild name have had a higher visibility. It is this group of Rothschilds which have gained the publics attention, even though they too are very secretive. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that the Protocols were written by the Merovingian Bloodline. They consider themselves gods. And they are not original Jews at all, being Khazars who converted to Judiasm in 740 A.D. They are barbarians - ruthless, cunning and greedy. They meant exactly what they said in the Protocols and still do today. The Khazarian Jews are at the heart of the Illuminati. Jean Staffen -- At 03:14 PM 8/13/99 -0400, Dano wrote: -Caveat Lector- Whether or not the Protocols are genuine or a forgery is irrelevant. The text exists and can be reviewed by anyone who so chooses. When reading the Protocols, I find the general message becomes more clear if the every appearance of the word Jew is substituted with Illuminati and the words Goyim and Gentile are substituted with the word cattle (cattle meaning the general population). ANY mention of ethnicity and/or race only serves as a vehicle for distraction and obfuscation (this is a bad thing). Dano Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- Yadda-yadda-yadda ... Third-hand now-discredited sources whose SPECULATIONS have somehow transmuted into "facts." Not a shred of genuine historical evidence exists to support most of this. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ethics Complaints
-Caveat Lector- Below please find information on an ethics compliant. Sincerely, Neil Brick All accusations are alleged Exceprts from http://fmsf.net/apa-complaint.shtml Notes From The Controversy Ethics Complaints Filed Against Prominent FMSF Board Member APA Declines To Investigate In December 1995, two women filed ethics complaints with the American Psychological Association (APA) against Elizabeth Loftus, PhD, regarding her published statements about two legal cases involving delayed memories of sexual abuse. Citing procedural considerations, however, the APA has declined to investigate the women's ethics complaints. Jennifer Hoult (a concert harpist living in New York) and Lynn Crook (a Washington State consultant) each filed separate complaints with the APA, alleging that Loftus mischaracterized the facts of their legal cases in published articles. Both women brought successful civil suits because of the sexual abuse that the fathers (and the mother, in Crook's case) perpetrated against them during their childhoods. At their trials, they presented corroborative evidence that met the requirements for judicial proof of their allegations. In her complaint, Hoult alleges that Loftus used distortion and misstatement of fact to seriously misrepresent Hoult's legal case. In 1988 Hoult brought a civil suit against her father, alleging that he had raped and otherwise sexually abused her throughout her childhood. After several years of legal wrangling, the case finally went to trial in June 1993. On July 1, 1993, the jury returned a verdict in favor of Jennifer Hoult, awarding her $500,000 for the suffering caused by her father's incestuous abuse. All higher courts have upheld the jury's decision, including the first circuit appellate court. When Hoult's father petitioned the US Supreme Court, his petition was rejected as untimely. At some point during all these proceedings, Hoult's father joined the FMSF. In the March/April 1995 issue of SKEPTICAL INQUIRER (a publication of the Committee for the Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, or CSICOP), Loftus published an article titled "Remembering Dangerously." Subsequently, this article appeared as a resource document on separate Internet home pages maintained for CSICOP, for the FMSF, and for Loftus at the Department of Psychology, University of Washington. In the article, Loftus reviews a number of high-profile cases involving delayed memories of child abuse. The introduction to the article, giving a cartoon view of the legal process, indicates Loftus's general approach to the cases she reviews. We live in a strange and precarious time that resembles at its heart the hysteria and superstitious fervor of the witch trials of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. Men and women are being accused, tried, and convicted with no proof or evidence of guilt other than the word of the accuser. Even when the accusations involve numerous perpetrators, inflicting grievous wounds over many years, even decades, the accuser's pointing finger of blame is enough to make believers of judges and juries. (p. 20) Of the several cases reviewed in the article, Loftus includes "the case of Jennifer H" (p. 26). Though Loftus ostensibly offers Hoult a degree of anonymity by using an initial for her last name, she actually identifies Hoult by citing the case (Hoult v. Hoult) in the article. In an interview with TREATING ABUSE TODAY, Hoult stated that Loftus's article distorts her case through a broad range of unethical practices. Among others, Hoult asserts that Loftus misrepresents her competence, expertise, and personal motivation to speak as an expert on trauma and abuse. As many others have already pointed out, Loftus has never worked as a clinician and thus lacks training or clinical experience in child psychology, trauma, the processes of traumatic memory, the evaluation of alleged sex offenders, and child sexual abuse generally. In this regard, Hoult alleges that Loftus violated a number of APA ethics guidelines, including the need for truthfulness and candor, misuse of influence, and making claims outside the area of her expertise. Hoult also alleges that Loftus used mischaracterization and omission of facts to misconstrue Hoult's legal case against her father. She pointed out many inaccuracies that support this allegation. In the article, for instance, Loftus claims that "Jennifer was a 23-year-old musician who recovered memories in therapy of her father raping her from the time she was 4" (1995, p. 26). Actually, Hoult began to remember the abuse at 24, at which time she was an artificial intelligence software engineer. Records in the case show that the bulk of her memories emerged outside of therapy. Furthermore, Hoult never stated that the rapes began when she was four, a "fact" apparently created by Loftus for the purposes of her article. In another passage, Loftus claims that Hoult "remembered one time when she was raped in the bathroom and went to
Re: [CTRL] Kansas Science Standards Controversy
-Caveat Lector- The KS board of Ed added creationism to KS school curriculum recommendations (after a lengthy debate). It did not eliminate darwin and the evolution stuff ... both will be taught - side by side. It is very interesting to see the "mainstream" media's response! The best example was NBC going into total panic yesterday, saying all of the KS "science teachers" will no longer have a job! It is now very apparent that creationism scares the hell out the media (and ruling elite) ... they don't want both concepts taught - just evolution only. And it has nothing to do with religious freedom (or freedom from religion). It's sort of like "tolerance" we hear about so much in the media these days ... you must tolerate us and our ideas, but we will not tolerate you and your ideas. -Brian in WINDY western KS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kansas Science Standards Controversy
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/13/99 3:51:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is now very apparent that creationism scares the hell out the media (and ruling elite) ... they don't want both concepts taught - just evolution only. And it has nothing to do with religious freedom (or freedom from religion). ===The scary thing is that superstition and fantasy are being put on par with science. There is NO way to test the preposterous notions espoused by the creationists, it's their way...period. Scientific method is out, the bible is in...it's assinine! This does a disservice to the youth of Kansas, it's outrageous and pitiful, and it is absolutly about religion-Creationism is religious mythology and nothing more. Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution]
-Caveat Lector- "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Mcneely [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, evolution cannot be proven, the Bible thumper theory cannot be proven ... why not teach both and let the student decide which one he/she believes, or is there a third theory on the origin of humans ... There is one small problem with this idea - the evidence. I say teach evolution and special creation in proportion to their respective supporting evidence. The time alloted for special creation should be about one nanosecond. Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. The struggle isn't about proof, evidence, fairness - it's about power, nothing else. Cretinists are in a can't-win position, since their 'success' in controlling a region's school system will translate into the marginalization of graduates of those schools when they emerge into the real world of higher education and meaningful employment. Like Marxism, cretinism can't survive contact with reality-based systems, but thrives only in isolation, behind ideological walls. Yow. Somewhere Christopher Hitchens says that the problem with creation science is that while it asks valid questions (and it does pay to be as skeptical of evolution as of any other dogma), it provides the answers as predetermined proven fact. On Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, I believe in evolution; on Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, I believe in special creation; and on Sunday I have an orgy of solipsism... After all, you *can't* prove that I didn't dream up the whole shebang ten minutes ago, now can you? Can you? = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Jean Staffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that the Protocols were written by the Merovingian Bloodline. They consider themselves gods. And they are not original Jews at all, being Khazars who converted to Judiasm in 740 A.D. They are barbarians - ruthless, cunning and greedy. They meant exactly what they said in the Protocols and still do today. The Khazarian Jews are at the heart of the Illuminati. Ah, this is what the disinformation specialists of The Conspiracy WANT you to think. But the alleged Illuminati who run The Conspiracy are the very agents who've leaked the 'information' that fuels belief in the authenticity of the Protocols, and the supporting belief-system. It's obviously in their interest that you DO believe this, that you swallow it whole. Why? What do you gain by accepting this disinfo? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990813b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No frolicsome unicorns were harmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # *Tony Blair is an Alien!* - Their confidence broken, Serbs are looking increasingly to the paranormal for comfort. But what if they're right? http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/kosovo/paranormal.html # *The macabre symbolism of destruction.* - How building -- and bombing -- places of worship has become the language of war in the Balkans. http://www.motherjones.com/total_coverage/kosovo/kusovac.html # UN probes Balkan depleted uranium. (BBC) The United Nations is to investi- gate effects of the use against Serb forces of depleted uranium weapons. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_419000/419561.stm : Did NATO employ wizards/warlocks/witches to wage magickal war against the Serbs? Are religious sites strategic targets? When you lose a war, are your deities second-rate losers just like you? Is it all the Reptilioids' fault? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Huge Triangle UFOs Mark Busy Sightings Week. (MUFON) Numerous reports of Flying Triangles are becoming common place. This infers that either they belong to our government or possibly alien forces. The following Flying Triangle reports may help provide significant evidence in our search for answers. Or maybe not: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/flyers81199.htm : Have you seen any gigantic flying triangles lately? Have you consumed many chemicals lately? Have you ever lied, hallucinated, been abducted, sobbed?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Turtle confiscated from temple. HONG KONG (AP) - Authorities have freed an endangered sea turtle that drew thousands of worshippers to a temple on a fishing boat. Cops confiscated the green sea turtle from the temple of Tin Hau, where it was worshipped for its supposed magical protective powers. The reptile was later released into the sea. Worshippers of Tin Hau, or the Goddess of the Sea, accused the government of insensitivity. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560696635-18f : Is your gov't insensitive? Do they take your sacred icons, even the living endangered ones? Do your sacred icons have more magical protective powers than the gov't? If the gov't is stronger, shouldn't you worship it instead? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Fusion fuels dreams of space travel. (MSNBC) Terry Kammash, an astrophys- icist and engineer at the University of Michigan, is developing a design for a gas-dynamic mirror fusion propulsion engine. Concepts could yield new propulsion techniques in a few years: http://msnbc.com/news/299611.asp : What's your favorite spacecraft propulsion technology? Would you rather pump mass/energy, warp space, travel thru wormholes, teleport, stay home?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Divining Rod Led Searcher To Dead Girl. VANCOUVER (CP) -- With his trusty divining rod and a strand of hair from a murdered girl, Rex Fitz-Gerald was able to solve a mystery that had confounded more than 400 searchers. Or maybe his nose worked: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/rod.htm ? : Have you found anything lately? Did you divine it? Did it fall into your pocket accidentally? Did you hide it, then wave a stick over it 'find' it? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Decoding the Dead Sea Scrolls - Scientists use digital methods to rediscover missing text. (MSNBC) Using a process that subtracts colors to heighten contrast reveals a hidden line of writing in what appears to be a blank space on the Temple Scroll, one of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The find eventually yielded what is being called a harvest hymn, a never- before-seen Jewish psalm. http://www.msnbc.com/news/299206.asp : What's your favorite unknown hymn? Have you written any hymns? Are they any good? Did they have any effect? Did your deities reward you? Why not?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Dalai Lama gives lecture at theater. NEW YORK (AP) - Live, from the Beacon Theater, it's...the Dalai Lama? At a theater better known for rock'n'roll and beer, the exiled leader of Tibetan Buddhists gave a four-hour lecture titled "Training the Mind/Opening the Heart." He started with traditional Tibetan chants and a humble assessment of his own role in the world. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560691639-23e : Do you prefer Tibetan chants, death-metal, glam rock, techno-industrial, or silence? Is 'spiritual' music effective as propaganda? If you open your heart will the blood get your computer all sticky? Is your mind trainable? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Russian Queens To Battle U.S. Bee Mites. (Reuters) Swarms of hardy Russian queen bees will be used in a desperate battle to defeat tiny blood-sucking mites which are devastating North America's honey bee
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] My understanding is that the "Protocols" were based upon a book by a frenchman named Joley called "Dialogues in Hell between Monteqestue and Michaelvelli. I remember that it was published in Belgium around 1870s(?) and was an attack against then current French government. He was later supposedly kidnapped back to France and spent some time in jail. Maybe dying there. (The Russian secret police forged the later "Protocals" in an effort to boost one of their own). I think I read this in the "Spear of Destiny" by Ravencroft. It all boils down to: Which conspiracy would one rather attribute the Protocols to? Is there a vast Judaic plot that's accurately reflected by the Protocols? Or is the more prosaic Imperial Russian Secret Police responsible? Is the existence of the French/Belgian document sufficient evidence to destroy the Jewish-plot theory, or was it planted by the Illuminati to distract truth-seekers? Is ANY evidence of alleged plotters credible, or could it ALL be manufactured? Is 'evidence' relevant, or will one believe whatever the hell one desires? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FBI Infiltrator Was Shooter's General at Aryan Nations
-Caveat Lector- Furrow a respected Aryan guard Former FBI infiltrator details life at compound http://www.spokane.net/ Bill Morlin - The Spokesman-Review A former FBI infiltrator at the Aryan Nations compound remembers Los Angeles shooting suspect Buford Furrow Jr. as a hard-working Aryan security guard who really hated Jews. "He got the security job because he was considered to be one of the most level-headed in the group up there at Aryan Nations," former FBI informant Vince Reed said in an interview Thursday. Furrow's appointment to the Aryan security squad was made by Tim Bishop, the chief of staff for Aryan Nations leader Richard Butler from about 1994 to 1997, Reed said. Reed showed up at the Aryan Nations compound in 1992 and stayed through 1996, secretly getting paychecks from the FBI for keeping an eye on the Aryans, including Furrow. Reed's informant job ended in 1996 when he was forced to testify as a prosecution witness against a group of six Midwestern white supremacists who called themselves The New Order. They were arrested and convicted of plotting to kill a black radio show host in Missouri, a federal judge in Illinois and Morris Dees, co-founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center. While working as an informant, Reed lived for a time near the Aryan Nations compound in a house he rented from Butler's friends Charles and Betty Tate. And Reed came to know Furrow "fairly well." "The earliest I can remember him there personally is 1994, but I know that he was known up there before that," Reed said. Another undercover operative who provided information to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms said Furrow, 37, attended the 1989 Aryan World Congress. Furrow spent time with Kim A. Badynski, a former Illinois Ku Klux Klan leader, said the source, who asked not to be identified. Badynski, who now lives in Tacoma, heads the Northwest Knights of the KKK and has been involved with the Populist Party of Washington. Furrow also was friendly with Charles Mangles, an Aryan Nations member from Polson, Mont., Reed said. "Charlie liked him a lot, as I recall, because he carried himself within the ranks of the Aryan Nations as a respected person," Reed said. Furrow did odd jobs around the Aryan compound and volunteered for extra hours, often pulling night duty in a guard shack labeled "whites only." The only time he wanted to step away from guard duties was when Butler or Louis Beam, the Aryan Nations ambassador-at-large, were delivering speeches, Reed said, and then Furrow had a front-row seat. Reed said while he was at the compound he never saw any outburst of temper or violence from Furrow, who was called Neal. "It seemed to me that Neal liked to take orders, you know, `Yes, sir. No, sir,' " Reed recalled. The former informant said he didn't attend the Aryan Nations marriage of Furrow to Debbie Mathews, the widow of Robert Mathews. Mathews headed a 1980s neo-Nazi terrorist group known as The Order. But Reed did see Furrow with Clint Mathews, the teenage son of Robert Mathews. Furrow and his stepson attended the 1994 and 1995 Aryan World Congress. At one of the events, the teenager wore a T-shirt that read, "Hail, The Order." "We called him `Little Bob,"' Reed recalled. "A lot of guys called him `the future Bob Mathews,' because they wanted him to follow his father's footsteps, evidently." Debbie Mathews, who lives near Metaline Falls, Wash., has refused all requests for media interviews since her ex-husband surrendered Wednesday in Las Vegas. "With his hatred for Jews, it doesn't surprise me at all that he did this," said Reed, but he doesn't understand why Furrow traveled so far from his Olympia home to carry out the crimes. "He was a respected person within the Aryan Nations," Reed said of Furrow. "His views were very strong, anti-Jew, and he always expressed that." In July 1995, producers with Michael Moore's national television show "TV Nation" showed up on a public road outside the Aryan Nations gates. The producers hired young black women to sing and dance outside the gates to the song, "Stop! In the Name of Love" by the Supremes. As the cameras rolled, the Aryans could be seen in the background giving Nazi salutes. Reed recalled that a couple of skinheads wanted to attack the performers, but Furrow interceded. "He kept everything under control." Furrow also ordered another Aryan guard in 1995 to apologize to a reporter who was told that Hitler's extermination ovens should have been kept around for members of the press. But after reporters left, Reed recalled that Furrow laughed and said "there are a lot of Jew bastards in the media." Reed was promoted to "general" shortly before his identity was compromised by his trial testimony. Reed said when the national spotlight falls on the Aryan Nations, as it is now with the Furrow case, Butler tries to distance himself and his white supremacy organization. "He tries to weasel out of any involvement in something
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Friday #1]
-Caveat Lector- "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Don't mention the gnaw. (BBC) A man bitten on the calf by a mystery woman while dancing on a table at the Munich beer festival developed the flesh eating bug, necrotising fasciitis. Calf-biting is regularly practiced at the festival as is known by the German name of Wad'lbeisser. Love at 1st bite: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_418000/418803.stm # Laptops mit Lager - The Open Source Beer Hike. Geeks from around the world gather in Bavaria to hike the hills, sip the beer, and talk about Linux. Not necessarily in that order. Watch out for flesh-eating bacteria, calf- biting gals: http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21249.html Who's behind the plot to wipe out mankind, or at least the smartest program- ming geeks, by getting them beer-drunk and infecting them? Is this another fiendish plan from Bill Gates? Will he stop at NOTHING to stomp Linux? Eh? Did anyone read the full BBC story? This was only the third case of necrotizing fasciitis from a human bite. The other two were a man who had bitten his own cheek...and a man who had been bitten on the penis. Now why the blazes didn't THAT one make headlines? "MAN BITTEN ON , FALLS OFF..." Yowza! = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ethnic cleansing in Lycos' advertising
-Caveat Lector- Lycos Nixes 'Jews for Jesus' Ad Associated Press Last Updated: Aug. 11, 1999 at 11:20:28 a.m. WALTHAM, Mass. - Lycos Inc., the popular Web destination, said it will not renew an advertisement from Jews for Jesus because of complaints from some in the Jewish community. Lycos Inc. said it received complaints about the ad from several Jewish people who took offense when the ad popped up on their screens as they searched for Web sites containing the word ``Jewish.'' Jews for Jesus paid $1,700 for the ad, which started running July 6. The ad, which promotes a book on the group's religious philosophy, read: ``The end of the world is no time to finally realize Jesus is the Messiah. (It's all in the book.) Click here for a free copy!'' When users clicked, a Web page for Jews for Jesus appeared. The page originally also referenced Lycos, but was changed after complaints were received and at Lycos' prompting. Jeffrey Snider, Lycos' general counsel, said the company did not want to give users the impression it endorsed Jews for Jesus. Started in the 1970s, Jews for Jesus practices Judaism, yet regards Jesus as the Messiah. It has 70,000 followers nationally. Snider told The Boston Globe that the ad's contract, which expires in several days, was not renewed because ``controversial advertising is bad for business.'' He added the company does not want Jews to boycott Lycos. The ad was opposed by the Anti-Defamation League's Boston office. Diane Kolb, associate director, said she believes the message is misleading and blasphemous. ``Jews can't be for Jesus,'' she said. Lycos officials did not say how many complaints they had received. Jews for Jesus officials said they were disappointed their message was restricted. ``The Web is supposed to be a marketplace for all kinds of ideas, and people can click on them or pass them by,'' said Susan Perlman, spokeswoman for Jews for Jesus. Email / Print this story Copyright 1999, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. All rights reserved. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Starium Promises Phone Privacy
-Caveat Lector- Its a complete contradiction in terms that a 'new company' could 'threaten' the gravy train - so I bet this is just hype with an NSA back door. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990813c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No renegade militias were disarmed during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Professor predicts first contact with aliens some time next century. It's time to prepare for impact on society, Toronto academic warns. Allen Tough believes humanity will make contact with extraterrestrial life forms soon, and says people must prepare themselves for such an encounter. Few events in the sweep of human history will be as significant and as far-reaching as contact with intelligent life in outer space, and now is the time for us to begin to prepare for the social and physiological impact. Let's go Reptilioid: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/national/990812/2713691.html : Which aliens do you most want to make contact with? Will they socially and physiologically overwhelm you? Are they better dancers? Are you threatened? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Eclipse Beautiful But Routine; End Of World Postponed... Again. PARIS(AFP) The total eclipse of the sun seen across Europe on Wednesday drew weird and wacky reactions from humans, confused birds and animals and confounded designer Paco Rabanne's prediction that it would coincide with the end of the world. But just wait: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/post.htm : How many end-of-the-world predictions have been right so far? How many eclipse predictions have been wrong so far? Is there an inverse correlation? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ COMPUTER VIRUS DESCRIPTIONS, SOLUTIONS AND QUESTIONS. A few mildly amusing frustrations break up the otherwise dry - yet relevant easy-to-grasp - info. What's great about this NG is that users of older operating systems (especially DOS) can find Do It Yourself patches and solutions to problems that newer antivirus programs may not always handle. news://comp.virus : What's your fave virus? Have you uploaded it to your VCR, microwave oven, PDA, pacemaker? What systems would you like to disrupt, crash? Do your alien masters help? Would you mind if I uploaded a virus to your brain implant?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BIOTERRORISM MAY BE THREAT TO U.S. AGRICULTURE. COLUMBUS, Ohio. As if drought and low prices weren't enough, there's a new, potential concern in US agriculture: bioterrorism. What would happen if someone deliberately infected a crop with a pathogen? It hasn't happened in the US yet, but experts think that it can, and they're now beginning to look at the risk. http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/research/archive/croppat1.htm : What crops would you like to infect? What people would you like to infect? Would you rather infect plants, people, animals, aliens, robots, worms, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Stratfor offers news and information on world "hotspots" where economic or military crises are taking place. A good place to do research when you're trying to get info on global current events. http://www.stratfor.com/ @ Blood Sport - The Stunt Master on "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer": http://www.feedmag.com/bottomfeeders/bf146_master.html # Impotence Caused By Eating Says Animal Rights Group: http://www.sightings.com/health3/impotence.htm @ Voyeur Auteur The Mastermind behind "Shocking Behavior": http://www.feedmag.com/bottomfeeders/bf184_master.html @ The United Nations Cartographics Section contains over 100 general maps in .pdf format and deployment maps of peacekeeping missions. While you're here check out the map library, with over 80,000 maps. Cartophile's joy: http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/english/htmain.htm # Nun Admits Scrawling Racist Graffiti: http://news.excite.com/news/r/990812/15/odd-crime-nun # Pope turns down invite from Macau: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560697417-fca # 94 killed in Indonesian Christian-Muslim rioting: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560695887-0c5 @ MIT Theses and E-Theses Online offers the full text of some master's and doctoral theses from all MIT departments. They're searchable by keyword in author, title, or abstract. http://theses.mit.edu/ # Russian Conspiracy Or Jihad In Dagestan? http://www.sightings.com/politics4/jihad.htm http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560698187-d6e # Jerry Springer rules out Senate run - Howard Stern available: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560697957-0f2 # NATO's own Experts: Bombing was a failure; Cleveland's Klu Klux Karma; Detroit's grand porno drawer: http://motherjones.com/scoop/scoop23.html @ StreamSearch.com is a new search engine for searchable audio video, with audio, video, live events, and pay-per-view link categories. They support varied formats, including .AVI, .MOV, MP3 Midi. http://streamsearch.com/ # Medical Marijuana Under
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990813d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No militant vegetarians were harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The wait for Jesus assumes biblical proportions in God's own land. (SMH) "We filled him up so much with the Holy Spirit he could hardly walk," laughs Elijah, climbing down from the wall from where he's been preaching God's word to another doubting tourist in the Old City of Jerusalem. With a face shrouded in grey hair, looking as biblical as his name suggests, Elijah, 68, (real name Ernest Moche) has all the symptoms of a religious psychiatric condition called "Jerusalem Syndrome" (JS), a temporary state of mind in which someone believes they have become a biblical character. http://www.smh.com.au/news/9908/07/text/world13.html : Would you like to be a biblical character? Which? Do you look the part? Do biblical fantasies drive your life? What's your favorite biblical fantasy?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Outlaw the cult! (SMH) Some 4,000 residents demonstrated on Tokyo streets and rallied in front of a former inn now used by followers including two children of jailed sect guru Shoko Asahara. Members of the cult spread Sarin gas on Tokyo's subway in March 1995, killing 12 people and sickening thousands more. http://www.smh.com.au:80/news/9908/09/text/world9.html : Which cults would you like to outlaw? Which laws would you like to occult? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Falun Gong denounced as dangerous to society - The emergence of a rival ideology spooks leadership. (IT) When Chinese police stopped a bus at a checkpoint recently, the driver called out mockingly: "All right, everyone who is in Falun Gong put up your hands." Passengers laughed. The policeman didn't. The incident illustrates how the moral authority of the Beijing gov't has been compromised by its attempted crackdown on the Falun Gong spiritual movement. No one, not even the police, can tell easily whether a person is a member of the organisation which practises breathing exercises and meditates on Buddhism and Taoism, and which Beijing banned as a threat to public order. http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/1999/0811/wor5.htm # China boosts drive against outlawed Falun Gong - proof of subversion: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,110002989,00.html (Reuters) # A DEEPER ROT. (Asiaweek) China must tackle problems exposed by the Falun gong affair. By the govt's own admission, there were 30,000 in the capital alone. http://www.pathfinder.com:80/asiaweek/current/issue/ed2.html : Is your sect dangerous to society, a threat to public order? Is it fun?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 13 Aug 99 Washington, DC 1. EVOLUTION: "TOTO, I'VE A FEELING WE'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE." Uh, sorry Dorothy, it's Kansas all right--Oz is not this strange. The tireless foes of reason employed a new strategy this time. Rather than insisting that "creationism" be taught, or banning evolution from the classroom, both of which face constitutional obstacles, the elected state school board simply deleted any reference to evolution from the curriculum. And it wasn't just biological evolution; any mention of "big bang" theory was also explicitly eliminated. The school board chair defended the decision on NBC News last night: "Where is evidence for that canine-looking creature that somehow has turned into a porpoise-looking creature," she asked, "or the cow that somehow has turned into a whale?" How do these folks get on school boards? Philistines are much better organized than scientists. "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too." Scary story. 2. ECONOMICS 101: MEANWHILE, MICHIGAN INVESTS IN BIOTECH. Using US$1 billion of its tobacco settlement money, Michigan aims to become tops in life sci- ences research, attracting the sort of industries that Kansas seems deter- mined to drive off. Back in Kansas, today's Topeka Capital-Journal says a software company has already crossed Topeka off a list of possible loca- tions for a regional HQ. The firm's CEO says the education board's action "isolates Kansas and handicaps its children in a competitive unforgiving world." Governor Bill Graves expressed disappointment, saying the board's action has left people worldwide wondering, "What's going on in Kansas?" 3. PALEONTOLOGY 101: EUKARYOTES ARE MUCH OLDER THAN SUPPOSED. On the same day the Kansas school board put the age of the Earth at less than 10,000 years, scientists in Australia were reporting evidence that eukaryotes existed 2.7 billion years ago. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Y2K-O-Rama: # Y2K - US And Russia Urged To Lower Missile Alert: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/alert.htm # Y2K - 31% Of Atlanta
[CTRL] Lycos Bows to Religious Bigots
-Caveat Lector- Lycos Nixes 'Jews for Jesus' Ad Associated Press Last Updated: Aug. 11, 1999 at 11:20:28 a.m. WALTHAM, Mass. - Lycos Inc., the popular Web destination, said it will not renew an advertisement from Jews for Jesus because of complaints from some in the Jewish community. Lycos Inc. said it received complaints about the ad from several Jewish people who took offense when the ad popped up on their screens as they searched for Web sites containing the word ``Jewish.'' Jews for Jesus paid $1,700 for the ad, which started running July 6. The ad, which promotes a book on the group's religious philosophy, read: ``The end of the world is no time to finally realize Jesus is the Messiah. (It's all in the book.) Click here for a free copy!'' When users clicked, a Web page for Jews for Jesus appeared. The page originally also referenced Lycos, but was changed after complaints were received and at Lycos' prompting. Jeffrey Snider, Lycos' general counsel, said the company did not want to give users the impression it endorsed Jews for Jesus. Started in the 1970s, Jews for Jesus practices Judaism, yet regards Jesus as the Messiah. It has 70,000 followers nationally. Snider told The Boston Globe that the ad's contract, which expires in several days, was not renewed because ``controversial advertising is bad for business.'' He added the company does not want Jews to boycott Lycos. The ad was opposed by the Anti-Defamation League's Boston office. Diane Kolb, associate director, said she believes the message is misleading and blasphemous. ``Jews can't be for Jesus,'' she said. Lycos officials did not say how many complaints they had received. Jews for Jesus officials said they were disappointed their message was restricted. ``The Web is supposed to be a marketplace for all kinds of ideas, and people can click on them or pass them by,'' said Susan Perlman, spokeswoman for Jews for Jesus. Email / Print this story Copyright 1999, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. All rights reserved. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IRS computers Y2K Collapse - A suitably paranoidpossibility...
-Caveat Lector- Do you think the IRS has "lost its data" as that woman claimed? Alas, they didn't lose my data, my recent Intent to Levy Notices for 97/98 were dated July 9, 1999but I still figure they will at some point during the rollover. gek DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OT: Interesting website
-Caveat Lector- FYI --somewhat OT, but interesting website to explore. Feel free to pass on to your friends. See http://www.voloks.com/ The designer is looking for any critical input or suggestions. -A PS: I have no personal financial or otherwise affiliation with the website. Just passed on from a friend. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Flight Controller on JFK, JR. Crash
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 4:19 AM http://www.sightings.com/politics4/garbage.htm FAA Air Traffic Specialist On JFK Jr Media Coverage - "Nothing But Garbage" By Edward A. Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-12-99 I am: Edward A. Meyer FAA Air Traffic Control Specialist NY FSDPS (NY Flight Service Data Processing System) Certified Pilot Weather Briefer Facilities: NY Automated Flight Service Station La Guadia Air Traffic Control Tower NY TRACON La Guardia Sector Airline Transport Pilot Cerificate Commercial Pilot Certificate Certified Flight Instructor 3000 Hours Total Flying Time 2000 as Flight Instructor Six Students Recommended for Certification As a specialist at the NY FSDPS: I was asked (through intermediaries) by Jane Garvey, FAA Administrator, to create a report of the weather conditions JFK Jr. was flying in. I created such a report. I have the following comments to make: Nothing of what I heard on mainstream media makes any sense to me. JFK Jr. had 100 flying hours and was flying a Piper Saratoga and previously owned a Cessna Skylane and was enroute from Northern NJ to Martha's Vineyard. The statement makes no sense whatsoever. FAA requirements for Private Pilot Certification is 40 hours. Most pilots require twice that. Older students require even more flying time. No student I have ever heard of requested complex aircraft time before certification. If JFK Jr. certified in 80 hours, he would probably seek ten hours of instruction in the Skylane (which is a complex aircraft). He would also be interested in some post certification "flag pole flying," getting used to his airplane and flying his friends around. With as much money as he had, he could certainly afford some instruction in his Saratoga which is a far, far different airplane than a Cessna Skylane. He would also like some flag pole flying in his Saratoga to reduce the "fear factor." (Flying an airplane you are not used to can instill great fear, I assure you.) The whole thing adds up to a lot more than 100 hours. The weather along his flight was just fine. A little haze over eastern Connecticut. Flying over water at night will eliminate any difficulty of restriction to visibility... that is, all a pilot is going to see is pitch black outside his cockpit whether there is haze or clouds. A pilot wouldn't know if there were any clouds unless he or she would turn the landing light on. Last but not least, JFK Jr. was certified (therefore licensed) to fly the flight. Any mention of "daring" or "inexperience" is absolute nonsense. I don't know why the airplane crashed, but what I heard on the media was nothing but garbage. Ed Meyer ATCS ATP CFI-A Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 'Hate crimes' not big problem in race relations, study finds
-Caveat Lector- http://www.amren.com/crime.htm 'Hate crimes' not big problem in race relations, study finds By Robert Stacy McCain THE WASHINGTON TIMES Violent crimes like murder, assault, robbery and rape cause far more damage to U.S. race relations than officially recognized "hate crimes," a study based on federal crime statistics concludes. The study reports that some 1.7 million violent interracial crimes involving blacks and whites are committed annually. But in 1997 only 4,105 of those were deemed "hate crimes" under the Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990, according to a study by the New Century Foundation, based in Oakton, Va. Although Americans most often think of "hate crimes" as acts by whites against racial minorities --such as last year's killing of James Byrd in Texas by three white ex-convicts -- the majority of violent crime across racial lines are committed by blacks against whites, the study finds. Black-on-white crimes were almost nine times as frequent as white-on-black crimes, the study reports. "Hate crimes are thought to be the most serious acts of interracial crime . . . but it is likely that the millions of ordinary interracial crimes -- 90 percent of which are committed by blacks against whites -- are more damaging to race relations," the study concludes. Jared Taylor heads the New Century Foundation. He is author of Paved With Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America, a 1991 book that documented fundamental problems with U.S. policies on civil rights, crime and welfare. Academics who have studied crime rates said that although some of the New Century report's conclusions may seem startling, the statistics about crime and race are well known to researchers. "It's an issue that most white scholars ignore, because you can only get in trouble," said Morgan Reynolds, director of the Criminal Justice Center at the Dallas-based National Center for Policy Analysis. "It's no news to anybody who's pursued the differences of race and crime, but it's politically incorrect." Racial aspects of violent crime are "too sensitive" to be openly discussed, said UCLA professor James Q. Wilson, but they have a major impact on American society. "This affects both races," said Mr. Wilson. "Whites are apprehensive. Blacks are irritated by being subjected to this apprehension." The New Century Foundation study cites the National Crime Victimization Study (NCVS) for 1994 -- the most recent such study issued by the Justice Department. That latter study reported that blacks committed 1,140,670 violent crimes against whites, while whites committed 135,360 violent crimes against blacks. More than 80 percent of violent crime committed by blacks were perpetrated against black victims; only 16.7 percent of violent crimes against whites were committed by blacks, according to NCVS data cited in the study. But because only 12.1 percent of Americans are black, those figures mean that blacks committed interracial crimes at much higher rates than whites, who constitute 72.7 percent of the U.S. population. "Put in the most easily understood terms, the average black was . . . 56 times more likely to commit criminal violence against a white than was a white to commit criminal violence against a
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Protocols Date: Fri, Aug 13, 1999, 7:01 PM -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] My understanding is that the "Protocols" were based upon a book by a frenchman named Joley called "Dialogues in Hell between Monteqestue and Michaelvelli. I remember that it was published in Belgium around 1870s(?) and was an attack against then current French government. He was later supposedly kidnapped back to France and spent some time in jail. Maybe dying there. (The Russian secret police forged the later "Protocals" in an effort to boost one of their own). I think I read this in the "Spear of Destiny" by Ravencroft. It all boils down to: Which conspiracy would one rather attribute the Protocols to? Is there a vast Judaic plot that's accurately reflected by the Protocols? Or is the more prosaic Imperial Russian Secret Police responsible? Is the existence of the French/Belgian document sufficient evidence to destroy the Jewish-plot theory, or was it planted by the Illuminati to distract truth-seekers? Is ANY evidence of alleged plotters credible, or could it ALL be manufactured? Is 'evidence' relevant, or will one believe whatever the hell one desires? Simply randomly choosing to believe one thing over another and to think that this is a rational way of choosing one's beliefs is not the manner I personally wish to operate. I prefer to weigh the evidence as best I can and deduce some reasonable model of reality in which I operate. Of course, I realize that I have made in the past inaccurate choices and do not have a fully accurate model of reality. However, I believe that my present model is more accurate than my past models and hope to continue to improve in just the same way as humanity in general has made some improvements. We no longer believe, for example, that the earth is flat. As for the "Protocols" specifically. My info on the origin, as stated above, is not certain by any means. I haven't held the supposed original book in my hands and even if I had, it wouldn't have done me much good since I don't read French. However, Ravenscroft seemed to be fairly believable and his story made sense. If it were true, then it would indicate a creation earlier than the Jewish conference which was held in the 1890s. That would tend to indicate that its creation was independent of any Jewish involvement. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Friday #1]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Don't mention the gnaw. (BBC) A man bitten on the calf by a mystery woman while dancing on a table at the Munich beer festival developed the flesh eating bug, necrotising fasciitis. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_418000/418803.stm # Laptops mit Lager - The Open Source Beer Hike. Geeks from around the world gather in Bavaria to hike the hills, sip the beer, and talk... http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21249.html Who's behind the plot to wipe out mankind, or at least the smartest programming geeks, by getting them beer-drunk and infecting them? Did anyone read the full BBC story? This was only the third case of necrotizing fasciitis from a human bite. The other two were a man who had bitten his own cheek...and a man who had been bitten on the penis. Now why the blazes didn't THAT one make headlines? "MAN BITTEN ON , FALLS OFF..." Yowza! The Conspiracy is obviously hiding things from us again, distracting us, misdirecting our attention. Probably, lots of cocks have fallen off, caused by beer-babe bites, alien interference, HAARP experiments, self- inflicted injuries and demonic possession - but They don't want us to know about those. There's a pattern, an insidious pattern. Yow. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution]
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Robert Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Mcneely [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously, evolution cannot be proven, the Bible thumper theory cannot be proven ... why not teach both and let the student decide which one he/she believes, or is there a third theory on the origin of humans ... There is one small problem with this idea - the evidence. I say teach evolution and special creation in proportion to their respective supporting evidence. The time alloted for special creation should be about one nanosecond. Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. Somewhere Christopher Hitchens says that the problem with creation science is that while it asks valid questions (and it does pay to be as skeptical of evolution as of any other dogma), it provides the answers as predetermined proven ... on Sunday I have an orgy of solipsism... After all, you *can't* prove that I didn't dream up the whole shebang ten minutes ago, now can you? Can you? But proof is irrelevant, except at the bar [either type], in math/ logic, and in printmaking. When cretinists demand proof, they're twisting the debate, trying to disguise their lack of parsimonious, workable explanations supported by the preponderance of data. Are you the Creator? If you are, but the universe apparently operates as though you aren't, then you're irrelevant. And no, it can't be 'proved' that you AREN'T the Creator - as we usta say on the FidoNet Philosophy echo: Only a moron tries to prove a negative. So anyone trying to prove that you aren't divine is either a moron or a lawyer. But anyway, in my spiritual role, I proclaimed all living entities in the universe to be deities - so you ARE a god. Use it wisely. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (3) Lindner's Honduras
-Caveat Lector- "Thanks to a push by the Clinton dministration, the list of countries that benefit from the IMF's debt-relief program would be expanded to include HONDURAS ... "[Some] have leveled criticism at the debt-relief push because of its requirement that countries must prove they are carrying out IMF-prescribed reforms -- reforms which force governments to cut back on health, education, and other social programs." "Authorities have discovered mass graves at a military base in Honduras. "Sandra Ponce, Honduras' attorney general for human rights, said the base contained metal cells apparently used to torture and kill political prisoners. "The base was built by the United States for Contra rebels in 1983 " ___ IMF Weighs Plan to Broaden Debt Relief for Poorest Countries Washington, Aug. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The International Monetary Fund is weighing a plan that would make it easier for the world's poorest countries to qualify for debt relief. Under the proposal discussed by the fund's directors, the IMF would set less stringent benchmarks for countries to meet, a move that could increase by a quarter the number of eligible countries. Changes under consideration also would reward countries for overhauling their finances. ``This would put the countries themselves in the driver's seat in determining the timing of debt relief,'' said Stanley Fischer, the IMF's first deputy managing director. The list of countries that could benefit under the effort, now 29, would expand to include Honduras in Central America, Laos in Asia, and in Africa, Central African Republic, Ghana, Senegal, Benin,and Togo. In 1998 the program covered $12.5 billion in debt, a number that would increase to $27.4 billion per year if the changes under discussion are adopted. A country whose debt-to-export ratio was as low as 150 percent annually would qualify, compared with up to 250 percent now. The ratio of debt to government revenue could be as low as 250 percent from the current 280 percent, the fund said. The changes come as a part of the IMF-World Bank Heavily Indebted Poor Countries Initiative, or HIPC. The program is designed to reduce the countries' cost of paying off their debt - - payments that in some cases amount to more than 30 percent of their gross domestic product -- to allow governments to focus on social spending. U.S. Push Last month, the U.S. said it wants aid to the world's poorest countries tied to poverty reduction and economic reform. Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers said the Clinton administration will seek to reach an accord on debt relief and reforms by the time the IMF and World Bank hold their annual meetings in Washington in late September. In today's assessment, the IMF board said changes to the debt-relief effort ``need to proceed in parallel'' with agreement on the fund's contribution to its financing, a reference to resistance to a proposal to sell some of the IMF's gold to raise money. The IMF said this week it will try to avoid selling up to 10 million ounces of gold as part of its plan to raise money for poor countries to avoid pushing prices below 20-year lows. The shift followed opposition from members of Congress, gold-mining companies and gold-producing nations. The IMF, World Bank and rich nations started HIPC in September 1996 to provide the world's poorest countries ``with a way out of the debt trap.'' Civic groups and churches have leveled criticism at the debt- relief push because of its requirement that countries must prove they are carrying out IMF-prescribed reforms -- a process that usually takes six years -- and because those reforms force governments to cut back on health, education and other social programs, they say. Honduras Finds Torture Cells at Base By FREDDY CUEVAS .c The Associated Press TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) - Authorities have discovered dozens of possible graves at a military base in Honduras, and a senior official said Thursday that the victims might have been political prisoners killed by the Honduran army in the 1980s. The suspected sites were located this week at El Aguacate air base in eastern Honduras, Sandra Ponce, Honduras' attorney general for human rights, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from the base. ``In the middle of overgrown brush at El Aguacate, we found six sites with tombs and metal cells where we believe the army tortured, killed and buried its victims,'' she said. She said the base contained several cramped metal cells apparently used to torture and kill political prisoners, a discovery appears to further challenge claims by Honduran army officials that ``nothing is hidden'' at the base, 80 miles east of the capital, Tegucigalpa. ``We suspect there are more than 48 graves in the area, holding the remains of an undetermined number of people buried there in the 1980s by the military,'' Ponce said. She said authorities have
[CTRL] Fw: [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: gene johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bruce Mcneely [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is one small problem with this idea - the evidence. I say teach evolution and special creation in proportion to their respective supporting evidence. The time alloted for special creation should be about one nanosecond. Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. The struggle isn't about proof, evidence, fairness - it's about power, nothing else. Cretinists are in a can't-win position, since their 'success' in controlling a region's school system will translate into the marginalization of graduates of those schools when they emerge into the real world of higher education and meaningful employment. Like Marxism, cretinism can't survive contact with reality-based systems, but thrives only in isolation, behind ideological walls. Yow. A very powerful analysis, Ric Carter. It rings true of prime reality or what Net jargon labels "real life" (RL). I wonder if your analysis generalizes to the more abstracted virtual reality of the Internet? False assumptions and their encoding via memes can be spread rapidly on the Net. Repetition, repetition is effortless on the Net. Compared to the focal, but short-lived, resonance often created by airwaves and cable broadcast media, output from Net cretinism can be carefully and repetitively targeted in attempts to create almost daily resonance. The type of effect may be a subtle contextual effect. It might be similar to the effects of litter and glitter on our RL environment. Tastelessness; mindlessness. What kind of feedback is required to to reverse and correct that? --GJ *** SkeptiChat: Ver. 0.98.09.27 *** depending on your needs, email "subscribe skeptichat" or "unsubscribe skeptichat" or "info skeptichat" or "help" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Days of Some Lives
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Buford Furrow's bloody rampage is over, and now begins the
predictable propaganda campaign to score political points. With
egregious sleight of hand, the American "right wing" will be
demonized. No doubt, the media will get around to blaming talk
radio and the Internet.
Notice that some events precipitate wide-ranging discussions on
political philosophy, while others do not. After a series of
school-yard killings in which the murderers were linked to
violent Satanic cults, and even after it was shown that the
deranged kids set out to kill students who believe in God, there
was no hunt for atheistic "left-wing extremists." That would have
been an unseemly attempt to use tragedy to advance a partisan
agenda.
But Furrow, a deranged criminal, gives the media an opportunity
to do what they love best: attack those who oppose the
ever-increasing government control of our lives. Furrow, then, is
being called "right wing" because he was associated with Neo-Nazi
groups that imagine themselves as successors to Hitler. Their
acts of violence are designed to set off a domestic war that
would lead to the establishment of a New Order run by them.
But what, in Heaven's name, does any of this have to do with
"right-wing" theory? By "right wing," the media can mean one of
these killer Nazi thugs, or they can mean someone who believes in
private property, free enterprise, and bourgeois social norms.
The blurring of the difference -- they are really polar opposites
-- is wildly dishonest but obviously purposeful.
Of course, the media are free to define terms however they like,
but the fact is that the ideological origins of Nazism are with
the left. The term Nazi itself is short for the National
Socialist German Workers Party. Nazism was fashioned as a
totalitarian nationalist alternative to the totalitarian
international socialism of the Lenin model. But national or
international, the relevant word is socialist, which should be
the first tip-off to Nazism's leftist origins.
It was no accident that the Nazi flag was a red banner; it was
taken from the flag of socialism. As Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
showed in his book, "Leftism" (1974 and 1990), Hitler and all his
top lieutenants were hard-core socialists who hated everything
about the old Europe, including small states, the monarchs, the
Church, the landed aristocracy, peace, and the free economy of
the 19th century. They imagined themselves running a centralized,
protectionist, and statist Germany under the executive-branch
"leadership principle." They talked constantly of a proletarian
revolution that would destroy the bourgeois class.
Furthermore, as Robert Proctor showed in "Racial Hygiene:
Medicine Under the Nazis" (1988), the Nazis were health fanatics
who banned cigarette smoking, promoted vegetarianism and organic
gardening, engaged in abortion and euthanasia, frowned on all
capitalist excess, and even promoted animal rights. They were
environmentalists who locked up land from development to promote
paganism.
The Nazi government introduced socialized medicine and
government-mandated vacations at government spas, imposed handgun
control, and expanded unemployment "insurance" and Social
Security. The Nazis opposed the traditional calendar and wanted
to replace it with one centered on race and nation rather than
faith and family.
A new study of Nazi make-work programs of the 1930s by Dan P.
Silverman ("Hitler's Economy," 1998) shows that Hitler's
government pursued a program of "public investment" even more far
reaching than the U.S. New Deal. This government imagined itself
as the employer of every citizen, the planner of every production
decision, and the redistributor of every accumulated pocket of
wealth in society. From the Nazi point of view, full glory came
during the war when they took over the economy completely,
Soviet-style.
Whatever you want to call a violent movement that idealizes
Hitler's socialist Third Reich, "right-wing" doesn't cut it.
Consider also the politics of the Neo-Nazi novel that inspires
many of these killers. It is called the Turner Diaries. The book
got a lot of attention after the bombing of the Oklahoma federal
building because it was a favorite of Timothy McVeigh's.
It has been said that the book advocates the killing of federal
officials. In fact, that's just the initial hook. Conspirators
wipe out all their enemies, which include anyone who opposes
their rise to total power. After taking over, they restart the
calendar at the year zero, a goal associated with every socialist
thinker from
[CTRL] Freeing Speech
-Caveat Lector- - --- Picture: WND Exclusive Commentary - --- Muzzling the speech cops - --- By Ralph R. Reiland © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Reversing the speech code craze on campus, the University of Wisconsin has called off the speech police by becoming the first major university in the nation at which a faculty vote abolished all campus harassment codes. It was chancellor Donna Shalala who established Wisconsin's stringent speech regulations a decade ago, setting limits on expression and punishments for any who dared to stray too far from the current orthodoxies of the Left. "American society is racist and sexist," she proclaimed at the time. "In the 1960s, we were frustrated about all this. But now, we are in a position to do something about it." In a position, too, to bludgeon anyone who's right-of-center into silence. Wisconsin's students succeeded in getting Shalala's speech code declared unconstitutional in 1991. The school's "content-based restrictions on speech has the effect of limiting the diversity of ideas among students, thereby preventing the 'robust exchange of ideas' which intellectually diverse campuses provide," ruled Federal District Judge Robert Warren. "Suppression of speech," he concluded, "even where the speech's content appears to have little value and great costs, amounts to governmental thought control." Left intact by Warren's decision was a separate faculty speech code, now voided, that imposed punishment on professors who created an "intimidating or demeaning" environment, a statute covering "all expression, teaching materials, student assignments, lectures and instructional techniques" that anyone of a particular "gender, race, cultural background, ethnicity, sexual orientation or handicap" might find "objectionable." As a footnote, it's the same Donna Shalala, now Bill Clinton's Secretary of Health and Human Services, who recently lost a unanimous decision in the U.S. Court of Appeals, "United Seniors USA vs. Shalala." The court ruled that the 1997 federal regulation that prevented doctors from treating any Medicare patients for two years if they contracted privately for medical services with any Medicare patient, free from any cost to the taxpayers, imposed an unconstitutional harm on seniors by denying them control over their own health care and private spending. As at Wisconsin, Shalala's I-know-what's-good-for-you central planning paradigm was judged to be in direct violation of fundamental American rights and principles. Shalala, unfortunately, was hardly the only true-believer in academe who sought to create unhostile environments and insure common decency through thought control, coerced sensitivity, mandatory sensitivity training sessions that smacked of political re-education camps, and the suppression of free speech. Across the nation, said Jeane Kirkpatrick, American universities were turning into "islands of repression in a sea of freedom." Choosing censorship and shunning over counter-speech and free thought, the "neo-McCarthyites of the righteous Left," in Nat Hentoff's phrase, had become wholly fearful of lively debate and fully allergic to contentious places. "The most serious problems of freedom of expression in our society today exist on our campuses," said Yale University president Benno Schmidt. "On many campuses around the country, perhaps most, there is little resistance to growing pressure to suppress and to punish, rather than to answer, speech that offends notions of civility and community. Offensive speech cannot be suppressed under open-ended standards without letting loose an engine of censorship that cannot be controlled. To stifle expression is, apart from an invasion of the rights of others, a disastrous reflection on the idea of a university. A university is a place where people have to have the right to speak the unspeakable and think the unthinkable and challenge the unchallengeable." At Stanford, a rigid speech code prohibited all expression that "constitutes harassment," i.e., words "intended to insult or stigmatize," words that might by their "very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace." Stanford law professor Charles Lawrence argued that the First Amendment "presupposes a world characterized by equal opportunity and the absence of societally created and culturally ingrained and internalized racism, sexism and homophobia." Gag rules apply, in short, on all those whose views might fall outside the range of acceptable Left orthodoxy until we all set foot in utopia. In Houston, a Faculty Human Relations Committee voted to banish Mark Twain's "Huckleberry Finn" from the library of the Mark Twain Intermediate
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Re: Kansas Board of Education vote on Evolution
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 99-08-13 13:12:38 EDT, you write: Supporters of theocracy, having lost the intellectual debate over creationism vs. evolution, exploit the political system in their attempt to promulgate their views and wrest power from rational folk. I am not a believer of a God, nor do I believe that my ancestors were monkeys, maybe yours were, but not mine. So, you think that science wins by default, that their monkey theory is any better than the God created it all theory? I think not. Not to pick at nits, but there is no "...monkey theory..." If you're going to argue, at least argue with what your opponent has proposed, not with something they have not. The theory is that, in a genetic sense, homo sapiens descended from apes, not monkeys. If the scientific theory is correct, how do you explain how that first ameoba was created to produce the universe, and if the "big bang" theory is correct, where did the material from the big bang come from? The theory doesn't purport to explain that. No one knows the answer to that question. The theory is not perfect, and has never been presented as being perfect. Furthermore, there is more and more evidence to suggest that the "Big Bang" theory is NOT correct. This is science in action. A "theory" is always being tested. So long as it best explains the observed evidence, it remains viable. When it fails, it is discarded or reworked. Evolution is taught in schools because the socialist-nazi types are in control and they do not want anyone to believe in an authority that is more powerful than themselves ... they see this as a barrier to having complete control, guns are also a barrier to control. Evolution is taught because it is a viable theory, which best explains the currently available evidence. Many people who teach and accept the THEORY of evolution believe very deeply in a god. I accept evolution as the best explanation. I personally hate and despise guns, but fully support the 2nd Amendment (and will, until such time as a legally constituted Consitutional Convention repeals it). So much for your theory of social-naziism. Of course, science needn't 'prove' anything - science deals with parsimonious workable explanations, not proof - but theocratic/ creationist demagogues frame their arguments in terms of 'proof', and misconstrue the meaning of 'theory', and engage in any other sophistry sufficient to manipulate political bodies. Seems to me you have this a little backwards. The scientific types want everyone to accept their theory as fact, when, in reality, it is no more fact than creationism. No, scientists want everyone to learn and understand the theory as being the best explanation we currently have. No responsible scientists teaches evolution as a "fact." Creationists, on the otherhand, not only teach their theories as "fact," they teach them as absolute, immutable "truth," with no evidence whatever to support them. If as you say the "creationist demagogues" are engaging in sophisticated disinformation to sway the beliefs of political bodies,then why is it that prayers are not allowed in schools, Because public schools are funded with public monies, and we have a mandated separation of church and state. With as many different religions as are practiced in this nation, and as many different means of "prayer," there is no practicable way to permit prayer in public schools. the killing of another human being is allowed (abortion), What has this to do with it? Many scientists are opposed to abortion, and many people who believe in god(s) support freedom of choice. and they (government) champions the "rights" of homosexuals, last time I looked, homosexuals were human beings, who, according to our basis of government, are "...endowed with certain inalienable rights..." just like you. pedofiles Excuse please? Kindly show us any evidence that our government, at ANY level, protects pedophiles in the practice of their perversions. Like all other human beings, they are, of course, "...endowed with certain inalienable rights..." just like you. and the "rights" of convicted criminals Again, as human beings, they are "...endowed with certain inalieanable rights..." just like you. rather than the lack of rights of their victims? What rights of "victims" has the government violated? What *ARE* "victim's rights?" Does a dead person have a "right" to have the goverment commit murder in their name by executing their alleged killer? Are these alleged killers not human beings? Why are you so concerned about abortions, but not about the murder of alleged perpetrators? Seems to me the "Scientists" gain ground on a regular basis through the use of force and massive disinformation, for they are in
[CTRL] The Protocols, The Bible, David Icke....
-Caveat Lector- Previous Thread: Re: [CTRL] The Protocols My personal opinion is that a person would be without any understanding, if one was to completely take in the Protocols in their entirety, and then deny that the schemes listed therein have not clearly been manifested throughout the last century. With that fact not being able to be faithfully denied, it is fairly clear that we, being at least 100 years removed, will ever know exactly who wrote it. We would be derelict in our duty as revisionist historians, if we did not at least acknowledge that the plans within the Protocols are very, very, similar to other writings or known plans of the NWO crowd. In a message dated 8/13/99 4:15:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that the Protocols were written by the Merovingian Bloodline. They consider themselves gods. And they are not original Jews at all, being Khazars who converted to Judiasm in 740 A.D. They are barbarians - ruthless, cunning and greedy REVELATION CHAPTER 2 9)"...I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." REVELATION CHAPTER 3 9) "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Of course, this is rather strange, considering that the ruling elite, according to David Icke, are reptillians who wrote the Bible. We should certainly wonder why the very authors of the allegedly alien authored Bible, would alert us to their presence in passages like this of Revelation, let alone Genesis chapter six (6). Half the time Icke quotes the Bible to "prove" his theory, and the other half he turns around and calls it a bunch of hogwash. The Bible also says that a double minded man is unstable in all his ways (I PET 1:8). Icke and his latest book are more proof of what was declared by the apostle Peter millennia ago. In a world filled with darkness, the only light that a person might achieve from Icke's "biggest secret," is that from giving the 517 pages (of blatant cruelty to trees), the Fahrenheit 451 treatment. But then again, why waste a match. It might better serve, if each page is ripped out individually and used to line cat boxes around the world. :::considering the purchase of a cat-- to put Icke's book to use::: Tsadowq DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Protocols
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] My understanding is that the "Protocols" were based upon a book by a frenchman named Joley called "Dialogues in Hell between Monteqestue and Michaelvelli. I remember that it was published in Belgium around 1870s(?) and was an attack against then current French government. He was later supposedly kidnapped back to France and spent some time in jail. Maybe dying there. (The Russian secret police forged the later "Protocals" in an effort to boost one of their own). I think I read this in the "Spear of Destiny" by Ravencroft. It all boils down to: Which conspiracy would one rather attribute the Protocols to? Is there a vast Judaic plot that's accurately reflected by the Protocols? Or is the more prosaic Imperial Russian Secret Police responsible? Is the existence of the French/Belgian document sufficient evidence to destroy the Jewish-plot theory, or was it planted by the Illuminati to distract truth-seekers? Is ANY evidence of alleged plotters credible, or could it ALL be manufactured? Is 'evidence' relevant, or will one believe whatever the hell one desires? ... My info on the origin, as stated above, is not certain by any means. I haven't held the supposed original book in my hands and even if I had, it wouldn't have done me much good since I don't read French. However, Ravenscroft seemed to be fairly believable and his story made sense. If it were true, then it would indicate a creation earlier than the Jewish conference which was held in the 1890s. That would tend to indicate that its creation was independent of any Jewish involvement. My point is, if one assumes that a sufficiently powerful conspiracy exists, then intellectual honesty demands that ALL evidence either supporting or refuting the existence of said conspiracy, is suspect. If one believes that Illuminati / Bilderbergers / Zionists exert vast control over finance, politics, communications, then they also control the information upon which we base our conclusions about their existence - all that information COULD have been tampered with, it's not admissible as evidence, toss it out. For instance, try this scenario: operatives of The Conspiracy have followed an agenda crafted untold centuries ago. In the 1870s they had the Monteqestue document published; in the 1890's they staged the purported Zionist conference and published the Protocols, based on the Monteqestue document; neither document reflects accurately ANY of The Conspiracy's actual agenda, but they give outsiders some- thing on which to waste their time, efforts, resources. All disinfo. All manufactured. All just grist for the mills. If The Conspiracy controls information, it controls what anyone thinks they know. I don't buy it. I prefer parsimonious explanations. The Protocols are a forgery. Grand Conspiracies are too complex, too baroque, to be valid explanations of observed phenomena. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gentiles in Danger
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/13/99 10:00:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record, prove to me that the protocols are not a forgery of some original document, and I may reconsider. But just as Wyatt who claims he's found the ark of the covenant... but left no hard evidence to prove himself, the Protocols cannot be proved authentic or disproved either. It's all a matter of belief and opinion as to whether one believes they are written by those who have a plan for world domination. And in your own philosophical taste, won't YOU be surprised, TenebrousT, if the Protocols turn out to be true. Yes, my point is just this. People will believe what they will, and we will never know for sure. YOU are the one who harped upon Kris' use of the term "forgery" for the Protocols, and used that term to buttress your argument that they are a Jewish document that is the blueprint for Jewish domination of the world, by rightly pointing out that a forgery must have an original. Yes, what comes around goes around and your statements against the Jews will certainly stand you in good staid with the Almighty, or maybe you weren't referring to the "real" Jews but to those "Kazarian" impostors? I will not be surprised. The Protocols are clearly an accurate assessment of the future, from the time they were written. Whoever put them together had a good grasp of what was coming or made a really lucky guess. If the Protocols were true, which they aren't, what difference does it make to me anyway? SOMEONE definitely is in control and shaping the world according to their nefarious plans (NWO, Illuminat, Skull and Bones, Multinational Corp.'s, take your pick, or name your own). It doesn't matter who it is the end will be the same. I can prove nothing to you, and have no desire to. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FILEGATE: SMOKING-GUN PHOTOS WITHHELD BY WHITE HOUSE (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- August 13, 1999 Contact: Tom Fitton (202) 646-5172 NEW FILEGATE COVER-UP: CLINTON WHITE HOUSE WITHHOLDS SMOKING-GUN PHOTOS Judicial Watch Uncovers Evidence That White House Has Photos of Bill and Hillary Clinton With Filegate Figure Craig Livingstone Hillary Clinton Had Denied Knowing Livingstone (Washington, August 13) Judicial Watch, in its ongoing Filegate civil lawsuit, recently uncovered written descriptions of Clinton White House photos of Bill and Hillary Clinton with Craig Livingstone, the former bar bouncer who obtained over 900 FBI files for the Clinton White House. Hillary Clinton has pretended not to have known who Craig Livingstone was, even though there is overwhelming evidence she hired him for his White House job. The photo descriptions, which come from Clinton White House records, further demonstrate that Mrs. Clinton's denials relating to Craig Livingstone and Filegate are false. The descriptions include the following information: Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sec. Donna Shalala talk with Rosie O'Donnell and Paula Poundstone in the Kennedy Center Concert Hall Presidential Box...Craig Livingstone is present in the box. Hillary Rodham Clinton arrives [at] the Senate Russell Building. She is accompanied by Craig Livingstone The President greets an intern next to Craig Livingstone. President Clinton is presented with a statue of Mohandas "Mahatma" Gandhi by Yogesh Gandhi ... The President talks alone with Craig Livingstone about the statue. President Clinton Greets David Bowie and his band in the outer Oval Office. The band poses for pictures in the Oval Office. Craig Livingstone is present. The Clinton White House should have produced copies of these photos under court process. We alerted the Clinton White House as soon as we found this new evidence among the tens of thousands of pages they produced. Now they refuse to the turn the photos over. Judicial Watch will ask the Court to order these photos produced because they help expose the truth about Hillary Clinton's involvement with Craig Livingstone. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
