On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 06:55:12PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
So I would propose to commit the OnTopPriority things first, and
then separately eradicate the WindowBoxes. They were probably never
used anyway given their unfixed issues.
I always feel a little
Traffic reminds me, I wanted to bring this up.
A couple months back, I was converting the FreeBSD port of ctwm over
to staging, which basically involves 'make install' putting the files
somewhere else than where they will actually be on an installed
system. This mostly went as uneventually as
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 01:05:26PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
I guess that interest is pretty damn non-existent then...
[...]
Deadline: mid may, I plan on pruning away free.lp.se and all that's
included in it in the weekend of may 17-18.
Ah, well,
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:40:50AM -0400 I heard the voice of
Allen S. Rout, and lo! it spake thus:
I see that the mailing list archive site is dead. That's a shame.
On the plus side, gmane at least has stuff going back 11 years or so.
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.ctwm
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 06:36:28PM -0500 I heard the voice of
Michael O'Donnell, and lo! it spake thus:
Is the official CTWM source repository accessible?
It doesn't seem to be directly linked, but the first part of
http://ctwm.free.lp.se/monotone-crash-course.html still gives good
info for
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:20:21PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Nadav Har'El, and lo! it spake thus:
Anybody ever see this bug?
Can't say that I have (and I also have xterm 285, and have no troubles
from it). Maybe you could poke at xwininfo -root -tree or something
to see if there's a hint
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:39:17PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Nadav Har'El, and lo! it spake thus:
The missing window that supposedly ctwm put up and disappeared is
0x8b. It's not listed in xwininfo -root -tree. All of ctwm's
children appear to have the 0x14 ids.
Mmm. Well, you said
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 12:08:43AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
I learned to use exec startx instead of just plain startx, for
security reasons. [...] With exec startx there is no such
possibility.
I use `startx ; lock -np` for such things myself :)
--
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:11:37AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
I'm releasing ctwm 3.8.1, [...]
For future releases, let's stick with dotted decimal numbers, and not
have another X.Ya. I had to swing a big hammer for FreeBSD because
the package version
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 10:45:32PM -0500 I heard the voice of
Stefan Monnier, and lo! it spake thus:
fair conformance to C89. What systems do we care about that don't
have reasonably competent C99 support?
C99 support is unclear: e.g., AFAIK, gcc doesn't fully support
C99, tho it has
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 11:11:53AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
That made me think it would be better to just have a cumulative
patch for everything since ctwm-3.8a. And in turn that made me
wonder if it would make sense to just put such a diff on the
website,
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:47:05AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Aaron Sloman, and lo! it spake thus:
It turns out that monotone also loses the information.
This isn't really accurate. It's all there (as it would have to be,
to fulfill its purpose), it just doesn't set mtime on the files. And
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:22:58AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Aaron Sloman, and lo! it spake thus:
That implies that something like the code required for full screen
flash is in recent versions of fvwm. I don't know if it would be
straightforward for a C programmer (which I am not!) to port
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 02:15:04PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Aaron Sloman, and lo! it spake thus:
Unfortunately monontone has a terrible bug: unlike wget, it loses
all information about when the files were created, so I don't know
how old this system is.
I'm not really sure what you mean by
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:11:03PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Dave, and lo! it spake thus:
Anyone got any pointers on what is causing flash to get annoyed with
ctwm in this way?
I s'pose the most likely thing is that it's trying to ask the WM some
question, and ctwm doesn't give it an answer.
Today I moved to a new workstation, so I got all the fun of setting up
new monitor and video card and all that fun X stuff. But post-move, a
minor ctwm issue showed up; calling f.occupy pulled up the occupy
window like normal, except I didn't see any buttons, and the window
was several dozen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:38:42AM -0500 I heard the voice of
Matthew D. Fuller, and lo! it spake thus:
3) 1000. This is what ctwm initializes it to if there's no setting
sitting around in a config file. We can assume that it's infinity.
3a) = 1000. Just in case somebody gets
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:22:52AM -0500 I heard the voice of
Matthew D. Fuller, and lo! it spake thus:
Give this a try if you can; if it works right for you (no reason it
shouldn't), and nobody has objections, I'll commit it in a few days.
Well, OK. A few days, 2 months, it's about the same
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 04:37:58PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
Now how much this means in practice is difficult to predict. One
useful rule I apply is that if something relatively slow happens
directly as a result of user action, it doesn't matter, since humans
Tim,
For large root window sizes, Scr-rootw * Scr-rooth *
Scr-OpaqueResizeThreshold overflows a 32 bit signed integer.
OK, now I just have to know; what the heck kinda root window size do
you run to pull that off? In a glance at Newegg, the 30 widescreen
LCD's run 2560x1600; that leaves that
Tim,
For large root window sizes, Scr-rootw * Scr-rooth *
Scr-OpaqueResizeThreshold overflows a 32 bit signed integer.
OK, now I just have to know; what the heck kinda root window size do
you run to pull that off? In a glance at Newegg, the 30 widescreen
LCD's run 2560x1600; that leaves that
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 03:38:37PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
So I do think that Tmp_win-vs == NULL is indeed a bug. Somehow ctwm
seems to think the window isn't on-screen.
I wonder if it has something to do with being a transient window
(which doesn't have
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 08:56:06AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
You do realise that we've left the realm of technological precision
and entered the realm of human subjectivity (something that C
obviously allows!) a long time ago, don't you? :-)
Well, we
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 07:58:02AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
I don't agree with that, as tally clearly has a boolean intent.
Ah, but it doesn't; it's ++'d, not =1'd. Clearly it's a counter, not
a boolean.
if (!tally) could as well be if (buf[0] ==
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:29:45AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
Are those lines supposed to stay?
At a glance, taking them out doesn't jump out at me as a necessary
part of the feature. But I haven't had time to really look in-depth.
(yeah, I know, I'm
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 02:40:06PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
One way, a bit complicated but still workable: I would simply have
kept hacking and committing into free.lp.se:X.ctwm in a separate
database (ctwm.fullermd) [...]
Mmm. The downside of that
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 04:26:01AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:00:33 +0100, Rhialto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I pulled a new monotone repository and looked at it with
monotone-viz, and something weird
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:35:52AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
It's not a problem, it's the way mtn-viz is designed. It only
displays revisions from the selected branches, plus entering and
exiting revisions of propagates. Matthew's private revisions
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 02:37:47AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
I generally agree. There's a lot of baggage, and I suspect some of
it comes all the way from twm itself.
At least. I think some of it rode with William the Conqueror ;)
I agree. To
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:23:09AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
Yes, I'd assume it would appear unbroken to you, since you made the
commits into your repository.
Well, no, I'm looking at it in my 'upstream' repo, the same one I push
to guardian; it never had the
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:41:35PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
Ah, and the following explains it:
So, the question is, what should be done differently to avoid these
broken bits (or at least pitfalls) in the future? Surely there's some
answer less
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:45:04PM -0500 I heard the voice of
Matthew D. Fuller, and lo! it spake thus:
See attached patch.
Well, hearing no objections, I've reread the patch enough to convince
myself that it's right (or at least, where wrong, the old code was at
least as wrong). So
When no WorkSpaces {} are defined in your .ctwmrc, parts of the
structure used to track them aren't initialized properly in the code.
This can lead to crashes when those pointers are dereferenced; I came
across it in the TwmWindows menu. I've pushed up a fix for this;
see attached patch.
I have
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 08:44:27PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
Ehummm, I think it's time we take a look in the bugs database and
try to fix some of the things (or dismiss it).
Yeah, I was doing a little looking back over bugs and unresolved list
posts
We've got problems in the signal handlers.
Signal handlers seem to be set in 3 files. The good news:
- util.c is all safe
- menus.c is safe
ctwm.c, however, is a different story.
- SIGCHLD handler is safe, yay.
- SIGHUP handler is doing a fprintf() which isn't async-signal-safe.
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 05:17:30PM -0400 I heard the voice of
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and lo! it spake thus:
I just tried 3.8a (XPM USEM4 GNOME I18N) and the Ctrl-Return isn't
recognized anymore and isn't caught by ctwm for the altkeymap. It's
just taken as a regular Return character.
[months
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 07:25:27PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Jens Schweikhardt via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
Clicking the left button on the root window makes root/button m2
appear, even though NumLock is off (as per NumLock LED and per
keyboard symbols).
Is this a bug in ctwm?
I
On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 08:23:20PM +0200 I heard the voice of
佐藤 純弘 via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
to reproduce this,
1. run ctwmrc with attched .ctwmrc
2. then get no-title bar window popup
easiest way is using Firefox, go basic authenticated page
then enable to get
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 03:42:32PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte, and lo! it spake thus:
Well, with my new syntax suggestion, it's still possible to retain
the old syntax for a while, possibly with BIG LETTER WARNINGS that
the old syntax is going to disappear with version 4.0.
I
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 09:10:02AM +1000 I heard the voice of
Anthony Thyssen, and lo! it spake thus:
All the modifiers are single letters,
They're not, actually; I use control and meta in my rc file (and
'title' and 'window' and such for the location too, come to that).
--
Matthew Fuller
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 05:42:25AM -0400 I heard the voice of
Stefan Monnier, and lo! it spake thus:
and the icon manager has more space around the window names so the
buttons take up more real-estate (and this space is not regularly
distributed: the text ends up slightly lower than before).
In 3.8a, I noticed today that de-iconifying a window in one workspace
(when it occupies multiple) doesn't update the status on the icon
manager in other workspaces.
Boy, that's clear. Let's try again: I have an xterm occupying two
workspaces. In one workspace, I iconify and deiconify it. The
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:53:56PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
On the other hand I do notice that Expose events don't always
repaint the Occupy window. (I notice it because I attached a menu to
an extra title bar button, and when the menu disappears the occupy
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 12:06:31AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Olaf Seibert via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
Do the following steps to see some funny behaviour of the Occupy
window:
Speaking of funny behavior of the Occupy window, has anybody ever seen
anything like my post ~1.5 years ago about
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 05:35:00PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Rhialto, and lo! it spake thus:
For an example of the style that I like, see what DisplayWin() in
workmgr.c.
Just to be contrary, I find that to be just about the _worst_ possible
style. I indent with tabs, and highly dislike
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:37:09AM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
It wasn't the router, it was a crashed apache. It's back up now.
Hm, I'm not seeing it...
% telnet ctwm.free.lp.se 80
Trying 82.183.134.65...
telnet: connect to address
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 12:48:45PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
If you have any question, please ask and I'll help you as much as I
can.
I took this as an opportunity to try this again; I've had horrible
luck getting monotone to work at all,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 03:54:43PM +0100 I heard the voice of
J.O. Aho, and lo! it spake thus:
Why make the meny that big in the first place?
I like to have submenus so that I don't have any big ones.
I have a menu with all the xlock modes on it (for no particularly good
reason, other than
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 01:45:06PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
You mention the auto* tools, and although they are good and tested,
the result is definitely not portable outside of the Unix family or
operating systems, and there are much
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 09:58:30AM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
Release of ctwm 3.7 beta 4.
A little slower this time :| FreeBSD port updated to b4.
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/dl/ctwm-b4-port.tar.gz
--
Matthew Fuller
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 05:02:49PM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
Release of ctwm 3.7 beta 2.
FreeBSD port updated (heck with the patches, they're 3/4 of the size
of the whole port anyway).
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 11:28:58AM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tue Apr 19 08:37:01 2005]:
Well, speaking purely for myself, I *LIKE* the predictable placement.
Do you actually get that behavior with 3.7a6? Anthony's
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 07:39:37AM +0200 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:11:38 -0500, Matthew
D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
fullermd Faster mirrors would probably be a big plus, as I'm getting
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 02:13:59AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
In Imakefile, check what happens when I18N is defined. It's
undefined by default.
Actually, I think the default is silly, so I'd like to ask the
general public if there would be
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 10:00:16AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Michael Widerkrantz, and lo! it spake thus:
You realize that the children of the GTK phantom windows (that is,
all visible windows in GTK applications) seen from a ctwm point of
view has been indistinguishable from transients until
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 10:04:48AM +1000 I heard the voice of
Anthony Thyssen, and lo! it spake thus:
Matthew D. Fuller on wrote...
| ... so I can f.setoccupy Mozilla finally.
I can't find f.setoccupy in the 3.7a5 manpage
If it is not documented, it basically may as well not exist
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 03:06:05PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:48:41 +0100 (CET),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
dl Again, sorry for the outburst.
Hmm, OK, I need som clarity here.
I
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 12:06:10PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Peter Flystam via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
I've found what I think is a bug in the source distribution of
ctwm-3.6 that is available at
There's a number of these in 3.6. AFAIK, they're all resolved in the
3.7 alpha.
--
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 01:46:32PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 20 Feb 2005 05:39:31 -0600, Matthew
D. Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
fullermd There's a number of these in 3.6. AFAIK, they're all
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 02:26:46PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:05:17 -0500, Michael George
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
george This is the classic scenario that all of us have used or still
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:00:13AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte - VMS Whacker, and lo! it spake thus:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 21 Feb 2003
08:46:31 +0100, Claude Lecommandeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
claude.lecommandeurWouldn't the best solution to have support
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 12:11:14AM +0100 I heard the voice of
Richard Levitte via RT, and lo! it spake thus:
I like the configuration checking mode! It's applied.
Cool 8-)
It's saved my bacon more than once when I did something stupid like
forgetting a in the middle of the config file...
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