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Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James A. Donald writes:
Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably
Symbian.
What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined
and achieved?
By executive fiat.
Peter.
Bill Stewart wrote:
When I saw the title of this thread,
I was assuming it would be about getting Mozambique
or Sealand or other passports of convenience or coolness-factor
like the Old-School Cypherpunks used to do :-)
Actually the only passports that are significantly more
convenient than
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James A. Donald writes:
Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably
Symbian.
What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this
determined and achieved?
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I very much doubt it. Where did that factor of half come frome.
During lulls, you are constantly sending chaff packets. On average,
you're halfway through transmitting a chaff packet when you want to
send a real one. The system has to wait for it to finish before
sending another. QED.
Ah,
Bill Stewart wrote:
When I saw the title of this thread,
I was assuming it would be about getting Mozambique
or Sealand or other passports of convenience or coolness-factor
like the Old-School Cypherpunks used to do :-)
Actually the only passports that are significantly more
convenient than
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Peter Gutmann wrote:
Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for applying for one now, I think the deadline for the non-RFID passwords
is about 3 days away (31 Oct 2005), but I could be wrong. (In other words, if
your application is not in
Modes that are based on a small window of previous plaintext, such as
OFB, would be vulnerable too.
My mistake, OFB does not have this property. I thought there was a
common mode with this property, but it appears that I am mistaken.
If it makes you feel any better, you can consider the PRNG
Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James A. Donald writes:
Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably
Symbian.
What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined
and achieved?
By executive fiat.
Peter.
James A. Donald writes:
Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably
Symbian.
Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this
determined and achieved?
There is no official definition of genuinely secure, and it is
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In the context of:
If your plaintext consists primarily of small packets, you should set the MTU
of the transporter to be small. This will cause fragmentation of the
large packets, which is the price you have to pay. Conversely, if your
plaintext consists primarily of large packets, you
A similar approach enabled Bleichenbacher's SSL attack on
RSA with PKCS#1 padding. This sounds very dangerous to me.
William
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Wasn't there a rumor last year
hi
( 05.10.26 09:17 -0700 ) James A. Donald:
While many people are rightly concerned that DRM will
ultimately mean that the big corporation, and thus the
state, has root access to their computers and the owner
does not, it also means that trojans, viruses, and
malware does not.
do you
At 10:22 AM -0500 10/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and doesn't history show that big corporations are only interested in
revenue
One should hope so.
;-)
Cheers,
RAH
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Peter Gutmann wrote:
Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for applying for one now, I think the deadline for the non-RFID passwords
is about 3 days away (31 Oct 2005), but I could be wrong. (In other words, if
your application is not in
James A. Donald writes:
Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably
Symbian.
What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this
determined and achieved?
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James A. Donald writes:
Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably
Symbian.
Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this
determined and achieved?
There is no official definition of genuinely secure, and it is
I very much doubt it. Where did that factor of half come frome.
During lulls, you are constantly sending chaff packets. On average,
you're halfway through transmitting a chaff packet when you want to
send a real one. The system has to wait for it to finish before
sending another. QED.
Ah,
Modes that are based on a small window of previous plaintext, such as
OFB, would be vulnerable too.
My mistake, OFB does not have this property. I thought there was a
common mode with this property, but it appears that I am mistaken.
If it makes you feel any better, you can consider the PRNG
On 10/28/05, Daniel A. Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Irreversibility of transactions hinges on two features of the proposed
systetm: the fundamentally irreversible nature of publishing information in
the public records and the fact that in order to invalidate a secret, one
needs to know it;
On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 08:42:35PM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted or
something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In those
cases they probably
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 28, 2005 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Return of the death of cypherpunks.
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
..
The list needs not to stay dead, with some finite
effort on our part (all of us) we can well resurrect
it. If there's
At 01:31 AM 10/30/05 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
They've said they'll fall back on the traditional
If we can't read the passport it's invalid and you'll need to
replace it before we'll let you leave the country technique,
just as they often do with expired passports and sometimes
What is the
Tyler Durden wrote:
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted
or something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In
those cases they probably have to fall back upon the traditional
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted or
something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In those cases
they probably have to fall back upon the traditional passport usage and
On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 03:05:25AM +, Justin wrote:
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once the
gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be invalidated? Or
can I have two passports, the one without RFID to use, and the one with
RFID to play with?
Here
At 11:10 AM -0700 10/28/05, James A. Donald wrote:
I am a reluctant convert to DRM. At least with DRM, we
face a smaller number of threats.
I have had it explained to me, many times more than I want to remember,
:-), that strong crypto is strong crypto.
It's not that I'm unconvinceable, but I'm
Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for applying for one now, I think the deadline for the non-RFID passwords
is about 3 days away (31 Oct 2005), but I could be wrong. (In other words, if
your application is not in processing by 31 Oct, then you get the new,
improved, RFID passport.)
Ahh,
On 2005-10-22T01:51:50-0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
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Tyler and Jayme left Iraq in May 2005. The Arbil office failed; there
wasn't enough business in Kurdistan. They moved to London, where Tyler
still works for SSI. His time in Iraq has transformed him to the extent
I don't agree.
One thing we do know is that, although Crypto is available and, in special
contexts, used, it's use in other contexts is almost counterproduct, sending
up a red flag so that those that Protect Our Freedoms will come sniffing
around and bring to bear their full arsenal of
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James A. Donald:
Since cryptography these days is routine and
uncontroversial, there is no longer any strong
reason for the cypherpunks list to continue to
exist.
John Kelsey
The ratio of political wanking to technical posts and
of talkers to thinkers to coders needs to be
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once the
gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be invalidated? Or
can I have two passports, the one without RFID to use, and the one with
RFID to play with?
--
The six phases of a project:
I. Enthusiasm. IV.
At 7:51 PM -0400 10/28/05, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
OTOH, if markets overtake the DRM issue,
^ moot, was what I meant to say...
Anyway, you get the idea.
Cheers,
RAH
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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:05:25 +
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once
the gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be
invalidated? Or can I have two passports, the one without RFID to
use, and the one with RFID
At 01:42 AM 10/30/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
Tyler Durden wrote:
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted
or something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In
those cases they
On 10/30/05, Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only people that I knew that had two passports were those with an
Official (red) passport or a Diplomatic (black) passport. If they
wanted to go play tourist, they had to also have a tourist (Blue)
passport.
I wasn't able to find a
When I saw the title of this thread,
I was assuming it would be about getting Mozambique
or Sealand or other passports of convenience or coolness-factor
like the Old-School Cypherpunks used to do :-)
On 10/30/05, Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only people that I knew that had two
A similar approach enabled Bleichenbacher's SSL attack on
RSA with PKCS#1 padding. This sounds very dangerous to me.
William
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
I assume that the length is
explicitly encoded in the legitimate packet. Then the peer for the
link ignores everything until the next escape sequence introducing a
legitimate packet.
I should point out that encrypting PRNG output may be pointless, and
perhaps one optimization is to stop
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Wasn't there a rumor last year
One other point with regard to Daniel Nagy's paper at
http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf
A good way to organize papers like this is to first present the
desired properties of systems like yours (and optionally show that
other systems fail to meet one or more of these properties);
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 02:18:43PM -0700, cyphrpunk wrote:
In particular I have concerns about the finality and irreversibility
of payments, given that the issuer keeps track of each token as it
progresses through the system. Whenever one token is exchanged for a
new one, the issuer records
From: cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 9:15 PM
To: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems
On 10/26/05, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does one inflate a key?
Just make it
In the context of:
If your plaintext consists primarily of small packets, you should set the MTU
of the transporter to be small. This will cause fragmentation of the
large packets, which is the price you have to pay. Conversely, if your
plaintext consists primarily of large packets, you
hi
( 05.10.26 09:17 -0700 ) James A. Donald:
While many people are rightly concerned that DRM will
ultimately mean that the big corporation, and thus the
state, has root access to their computers and the owner
does not, it also means that trojans, viruses, and
malware does not.
do you
Good catch on the encryption. I feel silly for not thinking of it.
If your plaintext consists primarily of small packets, you should set the MTU
of the transporter to be small. This will cause fragmentation of the
large packets, which is the price you have to pay. Conversely, if your
At 10:22 AM -0500 10/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and doesn't history show that big corporations are only interested in
revenue
One should hope so.
;-)
Cheers,
RAH
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Tyler Durden wrote:
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted
or something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In
those cases they probably have to fall back upon the traditional
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When I saw the title of this thread,
I was assuming it would be about getting Mozambique
or Sealand or other passports of convenience or coolness-factor
like the Old-School Cypherpunks used to do :-)
On 10/30/05, Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only people that I knew that had two
At 01:42 AM 10/30/2005, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
Tyler Durden wrote:
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted
or something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In
those cases they
On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 08:42:35PM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted or
something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In those
cases they probably
On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 03:05:25AM +, Justin wrote:
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once the
gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be invalidated? Or
can I have two passports, the one without RFID to use, and the one with
RFID to play with?
Here
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At 01:31 AM 10/30/05 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
They've said they'll fall back on the traditional
If we can't read the passport it's invalid and you'll need to
replace it before we'll let you leave the country technique,
just as they often do with expired passports and sometimes
What is the
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On 2005-10-29T21:17:25-0700, Gregory Hicks wrote:
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:05:25 +
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once
the gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be
invalidated? Or can I have two
On 2005-10-22T01:51:50-0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
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Tyler and Jayme left Iraq in May 2005. The Arbil office failed; there
wasn't enough business in Kurdistan. They moved to London, where Tyler
still works for SSI. His time in Iraq has transformed him to the extent
At 11:59 PM + 10/30/05, Justin wrote:
Tyler likes the high-speed lifestyle so much that he ditched it and
moved to London?
He and Jayme are back in Kurdistan, now. Don't know for how long, though.
He's teaching a new class of engineers, including crypto and security
stuff. Watched their jaws
Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As for applying for one now, I think the deadline for the non-RFID passwords
is about 3 days away (31 Oct 2005), but I could be wrong. (In other words, if
your application is not in processing by 31 Oct, then you get the new,
improved, RFID passport.)
Ahh,
From: cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 9:15 PM
To: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems
On 10/26/05, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How does one inflate a key?
Just make it
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 28, 2005 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Return of the death of cypherpunks.
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
The list needs not to stay dead, with some finite
effort on our part (all of us) we can well resurrect
it. If there's
Thanks for Enquiring about our recent (H.)uman-(G.)rowth-(H.)ormone Study.
Dr. Green and Hormone Specialist Kimberly Scott have finally
completed their 2 year study on the (H.)-(G.)-(H.) product at the Life
Tran-sitions Institution.
These are summary results (20 male, 20 female patients)
--
James A. Donald:
Since cryptography these days is routine and
uncontroversial, there is no longer any strong
reason for the cypherpunks list to continue to
exist.
John Kelsey
The ratio of political wanking to technical posts and
of talkers to thinkers to coders needs to be
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One thing to think about with respect to the RFID passports...
Um, uh...surely once in a while the RFID tag is going to get corrupted or
something...right? I'd bet it ends up happening all the time. In those cases
they probably have to fall back upon the traditional passport usage and
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once the
gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be invalidated? Or
can I have two passports, the one without RFID to use, and the one with
RFID to play with?
--
The six phases of a project:
I. Enthusiasm. IV.
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:05:25 +
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I apply for a new one now, and then apply for a another one once
the gov starts RFID-enabling them, will the first one be
invalidated? Or can I have two passports, the one without RFID to
use, and the one with RFID
On 10/30/05, Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only people that I knew that had two passports were those with an
Official (red) passport or a Diplomatic (black) passport. If they
wanted to go play tourist, they had to also have a tourist (Blue)
passport.
I wasn't able to find a
On 10/28/05, Daniel A. Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Irreversibility of transactions hinges on two features of the proposed
systetm: the fundamentally irreversible nature of publishing information in
the public records and the fact that in order to invalidate a secret, one
needs to know it;
http://www.bluegemsecurity.com/ claims that they can encrypt data from the
keyboard to the web browser, bypassing trojans and sniffers, however the web
pages are completely lacking in any detail on what they're actually doing.
From reports published by West Coast Labs, it's a purely software-only
At 9:11 PM +1300 10/28/05, Peter Gutmann wrote:
The West Coast Labs tests report that they successfully evade all known
sniffers, which doesn't actually mean much since all it proves is that
LocalSSL is sufficiently 0-day that none of the sniffers target it yet. The
use of SSL to get the
At 9:27 PM -0700 10/27/05, cyphrpunk wrote:
Every key has passed
through dozens of hands before you get to see it. What are the odds
that nobody's fucked with it in all that time? You're going to put
that thing in your mouth? I don't think so.
So, as Carl Ellison says, get it from the source.
At 8:41 PM -0700 10/27/05, cyphrpunk wrote:
Where else are you going to talk about
this shit?
Talk about it here, of course.
Just don't expect anyone to listen to you when you play list-mommie.
Cheers,
RAH
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Subject: RE: [p2p-hackers] P2P Authentication
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On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 11:28:42PM -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
The cypherpunks list is about anything we want it to be. At this stage in
the lifecycle (post-nuclear-armageddon-weeds-in-the-rubble), it's more
about the crazy bastards who are still here than it is about just about
anything
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 3:22 AM
To: Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PracticalSecurity] Anonymity - great technology but hardly used
...
It's never about merit, and not even money, but about predeployed
base and interoperability. In
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Intel doing their current crypto/DRM stuff, [...] You
know they're going to do evil, but at least the
*other* malware goes away.
I am a reluctant convert to DRM. At least with DRM, we
face a smaller number of threats.
--digsig
James A.
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While I don't exactly know why the list died, I
suspect it was the fact that most list nodes offered a
feed full of spam, dropped dead quite frequently, and
also overusing that needs killing thing (okay, it
was funny for a
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On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 02:18:43PM -0700, cyphrpunk wrote:
In particular I have concerns about the finality and irreversibility
of payments, given that the issuer keeps track of each token as it
progresses through the system. Whenever one token is exchanged for a
new one, the issuer records
At 11:10 AM -0700 10/28/05, James A. Donald wrote:
I am a reluctant convert to DRM. At least with DRM, we
face a smaller number of threats.
I have had it explained to me, many times more than I want to remember,
:-), that strong crypto is strong crypto.
It's not that I'm unconvinceable, but I'm
At 7:51 PM -0400 10/28/05, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
OTOH, if markets overtake the DRM issue,
^ moot, was what I meant to say...
Anyway, you get the idea.
Cheers,
RAH
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Good catch on the encryption. I feel silly for not thinking of it.
If your plaintext consists primarily of small packets, you should set the MTU
of the transporter to be small. This will cause fragmentation of the
large packets, which is the price you have to pay. Conversely, if your
I assume that the length is
explicitly encoded in the legitimate packet. Then the peer for the
link ignores everything until the next escape sequence introducing a
legitimate packet.
I should point out that encrypting PRNG output may be pointless, and
perhaps one optimization is to stop
I don't agree.
One thing we do know is that, although Crypto is available and, in special
contexts, used, it's use in other contexts is almost counterproduct, sending
up a red flag so that those that Protect Our Freedoms will come sniffing
around and bring to bear their full arsenal of
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 11:28:42PM -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
The cypherpunks list is about anything we want it to be. At this stage in
the lifecycle (post-nuclear-armageddon-weeds-in-the-rubble), it's more
about the crazy bastards who are still here than it is about just about
anything
At 9:27 PM -0700 10/27/05, cyphrpunk wrote:
Every key has passed
through dozens of hands before you get to see it. What are the odds
that nobody's fucked with it in all that time? You're going to put
that thing in your mouth? I don't think so.
So, as Carl Ellison says, get it from the source.
On 10/26/05, Shawn K. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 23:40 -0500, Travis H. wrote:
Many of the anonymity protocols require multiple participants, and
thus are subject to what economists call network externalities. The
best example I can think of is Microsoft Office
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