Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2/25/24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 06:05:26PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> May I interject a different perspective? >> what brings greater freedom, asking that words be changed by many, that >> some >> see, no matter how justified from their view as harmful? Or

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2/25/24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:14:44AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > [...] > >> The "problem" is asking the majority (10s of thousands of people) to >> make efforts to help 1 or 2 heal in their journey's of pain and >> healing. > > To make sure the "majority"

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 06:05:26PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > May I interject a different perspective? > what brings greater freedom, asking that words be changed by many, that some > see, no matter how justified from their view as harmful? Or teaching those > people how to free themselves

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:14:44AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: [...] > The "problem" is asking the majority (10s of thousands of people) to > make efforts to help 1 or 2 heal in their journey's of pain and > healing. To make sure the "majority" stays majority for all so ever: white, male,

Debian 12.5.0 amd64 and OpenZFS bug #15526

debian-user: Is Debian 12.5.0 amd64 affected by OpenZFS bug #15526? https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/zfs-dkms https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526 David

Re: utilisation de nis et nfs pour un réseau de 32 postes

On 24 Feb 2024 23:23, BERTRAND Joël wrote: Un gros serveur sous NetBSD et toutes les stations sont diskless et bootent sur le réseau. Les disques sont en NFS et les swaps en iSCSI. Peux-tu expliquer ce choix (NFS vs iSCSI) stp ? Si je dis pas de conneries, tu pourrais boot root (/) en

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

Max Nikulin writes: > On 05/02/2024 12:08, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: >> On Sun, 2024-02-04 at 13:41 -0600, David Wright wrote: >>> So it would appear that your question is exactly as in the reference >>> you quoted, that ifupdown was configuring wlp4s0 when /w/n/i was >>> in place, resulting

Re: Selective rotation of journald logs

Max Nikulin writes: > On 24/02/2024 21:09, Byunghee HWANG wrote: >>> When I read the question I decided that syslog for auth facility is a >>> kind of solution. >> Really i would like to learn more. Can you show a more specific >> example? >> Also i'm using Debian (sid). > > Install rsyslog and

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

On 05/02/2024 12:08, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: On Sun, 2024-02-04 at 13:41 -0600, David Wright wrote: So it would appear that your question is exactly as in the reference you quoted, that ifupdown was configuring wlp4s0 when /w/n/i was in place, resulting in NM displaying a question mark.

Re: Selective rotation of journald logs

On 24/02/2024 21:09, Byunghee HWANG wrote: When I read the question I decided that syslog for auth facility is a kind of solution. Really i would like to learn more. Can you show a more specific example? Also i'm using Debian (sid). Install rsyslog and logrotate and read their configuration

Re: Postel's Law (Was Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP)

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 6:37 PM Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 04:54:12PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > I sometimes think that something similar to Postel's Law but applied to > human > > interactions would be useful. However that is wishful thinking > > > I'm not

Re: Postel's Law (Was Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP)

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 7:37 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > [...] > Turning back more to protocol design, we have spent decades walking > back Postel's Law as we find more and more ways that being liberal > in what our software accepts is untenable in the face of a hostile > Internet. ++. Postel's Law

Re: medically smart watches

On 2/24/24 12:36, gene heskett wrote: On 2/24/24 12:23, John Hasler wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor The consensus seems to be that hey are not yet ready for daily driver use. But I'm that curios cat. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. So I just installed the only

Re: debian installer network console

Hi Andy! On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 5:58 PM Andy Smith wrote: > HI Matt, > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 05:40:31PM -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > Does anyone know how to switch to a different virtual console (tty) over > a > > network console on a debian install? > > I haven't tested this but when

Re: debian installer network console

HI Matt, On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 05:40:31PM -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > Does anyone know how to switch to a different virtual console (tty) over a > network console on a debian install? I haven't tested this but when doing an install over serial console, the installer runs in GNU Screen so

debian installer network console

Greetings, I use the network-console for the debian installer - it's great. There are times when I would like to use the console (tty - Ctrl + Alt + F2) to perform some ad-hoc sysadmin'ing during the install. Does anyone know how to switch to a different virtual console (tty) over a network

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2/25/24, Marco Moock wrote: > Am Sat, 24 Feb 2024 14:42:39 +0100 > schrieb Emanuel Berg : > >> I think the reason is black people shouldn't be associated >> with everything negative that is black in language. > > I can't understand why people draw that association. > Black as a color is

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

Am Sat, 24 Feb 2024 14:42:39 +0100 schrieb Emanuel Berg : > I think the reason is black people shouldn't be associated > with everything negative that is black in language. I can't understand why people draw that association. Black as a color is different from the skin and different from illegal

Re: which package to file a bug report ?

Am Fri, 23 Feb 2024 13:59:41 +0100 schrieb Frank Weißer : > First of all: I use german during installation; but I doubt that is > relevant. Try to reproduce it in English if you like. > Marco Moock: > > Am 22.02.2024 schrieb Frank Weißer : > > > >> I only choose ext2 for formatting the

Re: medically smart watches

Dnia 2024-02-24, o godz. 12:06:16 gene heskett napisał(a): > On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote: > > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of > > trulicity, a > > weekly self

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

May I interject a different perspective? what brings greater freedom, asking that words be changed by many, that some see, no matter how justified from their view as harmful? Or teaching those people how to free themselves from being controlled by those words? Yes, your goals may be honorable

I think we can't disappear ifenslave documentation just yet (Was Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP)

Hello, On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:52:17PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > If anyone wants to remove the references to ifenslave and > substitute others, that's entirely fine. I really don't think in this specific case it would be a good idea to remove all mention of ifenslave because: - The

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

[On list: copied to commun...@debian.org] Hi people, As you might have expected: this subject is drifting off-topic and becoming a little more personal. In answer to the first question: there's a reference to a wiki page. It's a wiki page: it can be edited by (almost) anyone. If anyone wants to

Re: utilisation de nis et nfs pour un réseau de 32 postes

Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > > On 2/23/24 12:02, Erwann Le Bras wrote: >> >> Bonjour >> >> Peut-être faire des essais avec SSHFS? le $HOME des utilisateurs >> serait monté sur chaque client au boot. >> >> Mais je ne sais pas si c'est plus efficace que NFS. >> > > J'aurais tendance à imaginer

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

Hi, On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:17:15AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 2/24/24, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 01:35:14PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> I wrote: > >> > You seem by now to have ignored multiple messages where it was made > >> > clear that the work was

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2/23/24, Arno Lehmann wrote: > On 23.02.24 at 10:33, Mariusz Gronczewski wrote: >> On 22.02.2024 11:19, Ralph Aichinger wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I know this is a loaded topic... > ... >> There is no good reason *why*. It's entirely US political feel-good >> activism > > Statement one above

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2/24/24, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 01:35:14PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> I wrote: >> > You seem by now to have ignored multiple messages where it was made >> > clear that the work was already done. >> >> Assuming we care about the most rapid healing possible for

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2/25/24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 04:54:12PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 09:03:45AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: >> >> > > It was a BLM thing, not sure if it matters the etymology of such >> > > words. >> > >> > The etymology certainly

Postel's Law (Was Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP)

Hi, On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 04:54:12PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > I sometimes think that something similar to Postel's Law but applied to human > interactions would be useful. However that is wishful thinking The basic assumption that people mean well is how con artists and high pressure

Re: medically smart watches

Hi, On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:03:16AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a > weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose levels > has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I bought one of the

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

Dnia 2024-02-24, o godz. 14:42:39 Emanuel Berg napisał(a): > jeremy ardley wrote: > > >> But what about the black market? Or does in fact "block > >> market" work just fine? > > > > The term "black market" is from World War II - i.e. 1939-45. > > It has nothing to do with slaves. It means

Re: medically smart watches

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM gene heskett wrote: > > On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote: > > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of > > trulicity, a > > weekly self

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 04:54:12PM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 09:03:45AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > > It was a BLM thing, not sure if it matters the etymology of such > > > words. > > > > The etymology certainly *should* matter, insofar as that is the origin

Re: Support for AMD SOC digital microphone

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 02:58:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 01:24:58PM +0100, Pavel Lunix wrote: > > Hello, > > I have Lenovo Thinkpad P14s Gen4 AMD and found the integrated microphone is > > not working due to missing kernel module (+ the integraded dmic under the

Re: medically smart watches

On 2/24/24 12:23, John Hasler wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor The consensus seems to be that hey are not yet ready for daily driver use. But I'm that curios cat. Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap,

Re: medically smart watches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: medically smart watches

On 2/24/24 11:15, Stefan Monnier wrote: So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be paired with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it to work? With a bit of luck it can be "paired" with your "2TB" SSDs? Stefan "sorry, couldn't resist" .

Re: medically smart watches

On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote: On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose levels has got us

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 09:03:45AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > It was a BLM thing, not sure if it matters the etymology of such > > words. > > The etymology certainly *should* matter, insofar as that is the origin > of the *meaning* of the word(s). +1 However that is not the way that the

Re: medically smart watches

> So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be paired > with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it to work? With a bit of luck it can be "paired" with your "2TB" SSDs? Stefan "sorry, couldn't resist"

Re: qemu et lancer un system " reel "

Retour final pour ceux qui seraient confrontés aux mêmes embêtements : - passer l'utilisateur qui doit utiliser qemu dans le group " disk " pour accéder aux partitions racine - penser à passer suffisamment de RAM à la machine virtuelle pour décompresser et utiliser le noyau et le initramfs,

Re: medically smart watches

On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a > weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose > levels has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I bought >

Re: Re: Issue with USB External Keyboard, External Mouse, and Screen Brightness on Dell Laptop

10,916 V looks a bit odd to me. After your comments, I looking forward about the battery voltage and I found this: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-choose-laptop-battery-king-sener/ "Voltage is closely related to the number of cells in the battery - typically a 10.8V battery has 6 cells and

medically smart watches

Greetings all; As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose levels has got us scrambling for alternatives. So a month back I bought one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor

Re: Selective rotation of journald logs

Hellow Max! Max Nikulin writes: > On 23/02/2024 17:15, Nicolas George wrote: >> How do I tell systemd's logging system to keep authentication logs >> for >> one year and mail logs for one month? > > (...) > > P.S. > When I read the question I decided that syslog for auth facility is a > kind of

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 2024-02-24 at 08:42, Emanuel Berg wrote: > jeremy ardley wrote: > >>> But what about the black market? Or does in fact "block market" >>> work just fine? >> >> The term "black market" is from World War II - i.e. 1939-45. It has >> nothing to do with slaves. It means transactions in the dark,

Re: Support for AMD SOC digital microphone

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 01:24:58PM +0100, Pavel Lunix wrote: > Hello, > I have Lenovo Thinkpad P14s Gen4 AMD and found the integrated microphone is > not working due to missing kernel module (+ the integraded dmic under the > same structure): > https://www.kernelconfig.io/config_snd_soc_amd_ps >

Re: 'sensors -j' and "ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature in0_input: Can't read"

>> In general, the first thing you should try is running >> sensors-detect again, as root. > > Okay, I did that ('sudo sensors-detect') and answered with the > default value to all questions, after that I did 'sensors -j' > but it displayed the same error. > >> It is possible that your kernel is

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

jeremy ardley wrote: >> But what about the black market? Or does in fact "block >> market" work just fine? > > The term "black market" is from World War II - i.e. 1939-45. > It has nothing to do with slaves. It means transactions in > the dark, not visible,  not official. I think the reason is

Support for AMD SOC digital microphone

Hello, I have Lenovo Thinkpad P14s Gen4 AMD and found the integrated microphone is not working due to missing kernel module (+ the integraded dmic under the same structure): https://www.kernelconfig.io/config_snd_soc_amd_ps >From Debian stock kernel config: # CONFIG_SND_SOC_AMD_PS is not set

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

On 24/2/24 19:25, Emanuel Berg wrote: But what about the black market? Or does in fact "block market" work just fine? The term "black market" is from World War II - i.e. 1939-45. It has nothing to do with slaves. It means transactions in the dark, not visible,  not official.

Re: Inclusive terminology (instead of master/slave) for network bonding/LACP

Marco Moock wrote: > Just check what different meanings GIMP has. Maybe some more > people now feel uncomfortable with using it. > https://www.dict.cc/?s=gimp Yes, people have been saying that for quite some time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20359520]

Re: Re: Issue with USB External Keyboard, External Mouse, and Screen Brightness on Dell Laptop

Is it possible that the USB ports do not supply power once the laptop is running on battery? Does the NumLock LED of the keyboard go out? On Thu, 2024-02-22 at 13:49 -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > Dear Debian Users, > > Thank you all for the invaluable assistance provided. Unfortunately, the >

Re: Journald's qualities

Mariusz Gronczewski writes: [...] > > Offtopic but since Debian switched to systemd for DNS management on > VPNs and suc I need to restart it sometimes multiple times to just get > "right" DNS servers, because there appears to be no notion of priority: Well, I am using openresolv (earlier

Re: Journald's qualities (was: Selective rotation of journald logs)

Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 15:05:52 Nicholas Geovanis napisał(a): > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 2:57 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Makes one wonder why they don't use naive append-only "plain > > > text" logs (tho with appropriate delimiters (maybe some kind of > > > CSV) to

Re: Journald's qualities

Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 23:02:49 Jeffrey Walton napisał(a): > > Systemd also provides tamper-resistant logs. The property is often > desirable in the enterprise. See Forward Secure Sealing, > . > > Jeff > I had mentioned that feature. I haven't it seen in a

Re: utilisation de nis et nfs pour un réseau de 32 postes

Le 23 février 2024 Erwann Le Bras a écrit : > Peut-être faire des essais avec SSHFS? le $HOME des utilisateurs serait monté > sur chaque client au boot. > > Mais je ne sais pas si c'est plus efficace que NFS. J'ai pas mal utilisé sshfs et ça reste assez performant même via internet pour des

Re: Journald's qualities (was: Selective rotation of journald logs)

Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 12:34:34 Dan Ritter napisał(a): > Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Makes one wonder why they don't use naive append-only "plain text" > > logs (tho with appropriate delimiters (maybe some kind of CSV) to > > make searches more reliable than with old-style plain text logs)? > >