Le 2 janvier 2024 Belaïd a écrit :
> Je te conseillerai Debian même en entreprise a part si tu veux un support
> différent d'un support "communautaire/bénévole", dans quel cas je te
> conseillerai peut être Red Hat.
Même dans ce cas là je recommande Debian + prestataire Debian. Les
prestataires
nt 64 bits)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power10
Ce n'est malheureusement pas une machine qu'un Debianiste seul peut se
payer.
Le mar. 2 janv. 2024 à 10:43, Basile Starynkevitch
a écrit :
Et IBM vend des serveurs PowerPC haut de gamme
https://www.ibm.com/fr-fr/power
A ne surtout pas confondre avec les anciens processeurs PPC "PowerPC"
Le mar. 2 janv. 2024 à 10:43, Basile Starynkevitch
a écrit :
>
>
> Et IBM vend des serveurs PowerPC haut de gamme
> https://www.ibm.com/fr-fr/power sous Linux. Probablement une
> distribution SuSe
>
>
>
Bonjour,
Le 2024-01-02 04:37, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
Je vais me former dans le but d'élargir mon savoir et mes
compétences concernant LINUX en entreprise.
En complément d'un usage quotidien de DEBIAN en poste de travail et
serveur, je souhaiterais installer une distribution
LINUX orientée
On 1/2/24 04:37, Alex PADOLY wrote:
Bonjour et bonne année 2024 à tous !
Je vais me former dans le but d'élargir mon savoir et mes compétences
concernant LINUX en entreprise.
En complément d'un usage quotidien de DEBIAN en poste de travail et
serveur, je souhaiterais installer une
Bonjour et bonne année 2024 à tous !
Je vais me former dans le but d'élargir mon savoir et mes compétences
concernant LINUX en entreprise.
En complément d'un usage quotidien de DEBIAN en poste de travail et
serveur, je souhaiterais installer une distribution
LINUX orientée entreprise sur
Subject: I have successfully installed Debian Linux 12.4.0 on my refurbished HP
EliteBook 840 G1 laptop on 21 Dec 2023 Thursday
Good day from Singapore,
I have successfully installed Debian Linux 12.4.0 on my refurbished HP
EliteBook 840 G1 laptop on 21 Dec 2023 Thursday. It was done using
s the server that upgraded. I haven't set any
> special policies on upgrades.
I saw similar here. Of four machines here running Bookworm, three have
kernels:
linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 6.1.66-1
linux-image-6.1.0-16-amd64 6.1.67-1
but one has:
linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 6.1.55-1
linux-image-6.1.0-15
On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 09:02:34AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> Several days ago my main server upgraded to kernel 6.1.0-16 but various
> other devices that are also running Bookworm seem stuck at 6.1.0-13. They
> are all using the same architecture. Some are using the same mirror as the
> server
Several days ago my main server upgraded to kernel 6.1.0-16 but various
other devices that are also running Bookworm seem stuck at 6.1.0-13.
They are all using the same architecture. Some are using the same mirror
as the server that upgraded. I haven't set any special policies on upgrades.
Hi Greg
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 2:43 AM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: From which kernel should I upgrade my installed Debian to
> linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64?
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 07:38:02PM +0100, St
On 11 Dec 2023 21:45 -0700, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com (Charles
Curley):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057967
And from the looks of that bug report thread, message #72 onwards,
there is now a candidate fix.
On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 04:15:33 +
Tom Furie wrote:
> Do we know yet which wifi drivers are "troublesome"? I haven't seen
> anything concrete yet anywhere.
You can read the gory details at Mr. Price's bug report.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057967
--
Does anybody read
Kevin Price writes:
> 6.1.0-15 brought not only the ext4-bugfix, but along with it introduced
> a terrible new bug: Most computers work fine with -15, except for some
> of those that have wifi, depending upon the driver. There was a certain
> change in Linux's cfg80211 kernel module, which
Hey Stella, hey all:
Am 11.12.23 um 19:38 schrieb Stella Ashburne:
> Thank goodness it only happens once in a blue moon.
May I please clarify some basic (mis-)conceptions?
There's "linux-image-amd64". This is a metapackage that contains nothing
but a constructed dependency up
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 07:38:02PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Please see Greg's reply to my other post (URL:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00640.html).
>
> For your convenience, I quote a section of his reply (see below):
>
> "Yes, because linux
Hi Andy
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 11:25 PM
> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: From which kernel should I upgrade my installed Debian to
> linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64?
>
>
> If you're not currently booted i
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 02:25:23PM +0100, Kevin Price wrote:
> Am 11.12.23 um 14:16 schrieb Stella Ashburne:
> > Suppose I wish to upgrade to linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64.
>
> If that were the case, or maybe better to a newer one.
>
> > Should I do it after booting my d
Hi Greg
Thank you for taking the time to explain in detail.
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 10:16 PM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Release process notes [WAS Need clarifications about how to
> deal with the installed
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 02:35:07PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Suppose linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 is installed successfully and I reboot my
> device.
>
> A few days from now, I decide to remove linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 because it
> is buggy and so in a terminal, I ty
Hi Andy
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 3:13 PM
> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Release process notes [WAS Re: Need clarifications about how to deal
> with the installed problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1
Am 11.12.23 um 14:16 schrieb Stella Ashburne:
> Suppose I wish to upgrade to linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64.
If that were the case, or maybe better to a newer one.
> Should I do it after booting my device into
> (1) linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (the problematic kernel)
NO. Don't
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 02:16:39PM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> (3) doesn't matter which kernel to upgrade from
That.
Hi
As of now, I'm quite hesistant to upgrade my installed Debian Bookworm to
linux-image-6.1.0-15-amd64 as there are two users who reported they have
problems with it (cf.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00570.html and
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00607.html
Hi Andy
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 3:20 PM
> From: "Andrew M.A. Cater"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed
> problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)
> dpkg is low le
Hi Greg
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 11:40 AM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed
> problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)
>
> On Mon, D
version reported by a program itself.
A lot of the time, something like "current up-to-date Bookworm" or
"Bookworm per " is sufficiently precise, as long as you
have confirmed that this is actually the case.
>>> sudo dpkg -i linux-image-6.1.0-13-a
fications about how to deal with the installed
> > problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)
> >
> >
> > This combination is expected under the circumstances, assuming that
> > you mean /etc/debian_version. Booting into a different kernel does not
>
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 03:32:55AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Hi Greg
>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:08 PM
> > From: "Greg Wooledge"
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the
Hi Greg
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 11:27 AM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed
> problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)
>
>
> Well, th
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 04:31:22AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> Someone on a social media platform stated that there are only two "canonical"
> [sic] ways to verify the version of Debian installed on a system. They are:
>
> uname -a
>
> /proc/version
>
> Do you agree with the above
Hi Michael
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 9:29 PM
> From: "Michael Kjörling" <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed
> problematic kernel, linux
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 03:26:16AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> What command did you use? Was it
>
> sudo dpkg -i linux-image-amd64_6.1.55-1_amd64.deb
Yes.
On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 03:32:55AM +0100, Stella Ashburne wrote:
> As of writing this reply, there's a new point rel
Hi Greg
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 11:08 PM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed
> problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)
>
>
> Note that
Hi Greg
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 2:06 AM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Need clarifications about how to deal with the installed
> problematic kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 (6.1.64-1)
>
>
> In order
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:08:21AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 01:41:14PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > That will work: you might also want to apt-get purge
> > linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64
> > but you've done the main thing.
>
> Note that
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 01:41:14PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> That will work: you might also want to apt-get purge
> linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64
> but you've done the main thing.
Note that purging 6.1.0-14 will also remove the linux-image-amd64
metapackage, which has a hard d
d to my computer many hours ago.
>
> My device upgraded to the latest kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 and
> rebooted.
>
Yes, this was a problem that surfaced properly half way through the release
process. The release team had already put out the main updates: I was involved
with t
On 10 Dec 2023 13:48 +0100, from rewe...@gmx.com (Stella Ashburne):
> I highlight linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64 and press Enter.
>
> After supply the decryption password and entering my desktop
> environment, I did the following:
>
> cat /etc/debian_user
> *Result* is 12.3, eve
Hi,
I am using Debian Bookworm, the current stable release with the whole SSD being
encrypted with LUKS2. After decryption, the file system of the logical volume
is ext4.
This is what happened to my computer many hours ago.
My device upgraded to the latest kernel, linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64
On 12/9/23, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> the CIA was giving money to Ukrainian people but in
> order to get it they had to use their cell phones ;-)
which (cell phones) they would also get "for free", mind you.
And well ..., yes, even if you remove the networking hard and
software, all RF
On 12/9/23, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On 09.12.23 at 10:13, Albretch Mueller wrote:
>> > As anyone could see you could even run a network of detached
>> > computers without networking interfaces in a "touch of God" kind of
>> > way ...
Thank you. I should have more clearly stated that those
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 11:23 PM, John Hasler
wrote:
> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes:
>
> > You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router?
>
>
> Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site.
> --
> John Hasler
> j...@sugarbit.com
>
Greg writes:
> Is he simply talking about sneakernet? A human administrator, whom I
> imagine to be the "god" in this scenario, walks around and room and
> types things on each computer as needed?
Carrying removable media around.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Arno writes:
> At this point it becomes quite clear that we have a misunderstanding
> at a very low level. Sentences like "run a network of ... computers
> without networking interfaces" are something I can not really grasp
> with the facilities I have.
You could run a slow network by mailing
On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:50:16PM +0100, Arno Lehmann wrote:
> On 09.12.23 at 10:13, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> > As anyone could see you could even run a network of detached
> > computers without networking interfaces in a "touch of God" kind of
> > way,
>
> At this point it becomes quite
Hello,
On 09.12.23 at 10:13, Albretch Mueller wrote:
On 12/7/23, Arno Lehmann wrote:
it's quite interesting that you use a platform such as wordpress,
running code you can not control, to discuss such matters.
I was just brainstorming, dumping a stream of consciousness with a
relatively
On 12/9/23, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> As anyone could see you could even run a network of detached
> computers without networking interfaces in a "touch of God" kind of
> way, some sort of "leased One-time pad touches of God" specifically
> for each, all coordinated through and which
On Fri, 2023-12-08 at 19:11 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:36 AM Andre Rodier wrote:
> >
> > First, if this post is off-topic, feel free to give me other
> > mailing lists.
>
> The eevblog may be another place to ask. But be warned, the folks on
> the eevblog can get
Wouldn't it be more reasonable to self host
That will definitely happen at some point. I will have to test first
the Linux initialization process (it’s runlevels) and how to make it
dance together with GRUB nicely (no mysteries whatsoever there).
> ... using a hoster providing
> decent priva
On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:36 AM Andre Rodier wrote:
>
> First, if this post is off-topic, feel free to give me other mailing lists.
The eevblog may be another place to ask. But be warned, the folks on
the eevblog can get really deep into the weeds on subjects like this.
If you are not careful,
Piotr writes:
> You could have contacted them to get a replacement, 100% faulty phone
> calls means Qualcomm modem was faulty. But I assume you contacted them
> and were unhappy with the result, hence your negative opinion on
> provided customer support, or lack thereof.
They were willing to sell
piorunz wrote:
> On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote:
> > If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine
> > as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi,
> > etc.**
>
> Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for earl
On 08/12/2023 18:13, John Hasler wrote:
I wrote:
No support when it doesn't, though.
Okay.
I was never able to get it to complete a phone call. Attempts produced
inconsistent results. Some results of searches indicated that the card
might need to be activated on another phone (I didn't
On 12/8/23 13:13, John Hasler wrote:
Too
bad: it does everything I want except make phone calls.
Phones now a days are not expected nor intended to make phone calls
--
It's not easy to be me
Piotr writes:
> Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development
> Linux phone.
I wrote:
> No support when it doesn't, though.
piorunz:
> Why you say so? What doesn't?
I was never able to get it to complete a phone call. Attempts produced
inconsistent results.
On 08/12/2023 15:20, John Hasler wrote:
Piotr writes:
Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development
Linux phone.
No support when it doesn't, though.
Why you say so? What doesn't? It worked for me quite well, as a device
in early development. I really liked it. I passed
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 11:23 PM, John Hasler
wrote:
> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes:
>
> > You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router?
>
>
> Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site.
> --
> John Hasler
> j...@sugarbit.com
>
Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes:
> You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router?
Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Piotr writes:
> Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development
> Linux phone.
No support when it doesn't, though.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 6:15 AM, John Hasler wrote:
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>
> > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye)
>
>
> I have a Ubiquiti router. Before I installed OpenWRT I explored the OS.
> It uses packages from Bullseye but it is certainly not Debian.
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 6:08 AM, jeremy ardley
wrote:
> On 7/12/23 23:52, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>
> > Subject: Could not find interfaces configuration file
> > /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)
>
>
und a file on the
> filesystem that says it does, is as trustworthy as the claims in
> your email that your client is called Henry Kissinger and your
> colleague Edward Snowden.
>
> It might have started out as Debian 11, but Ubiquiti have made
> unknown changes to it.
>
> > Li
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 12:19 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On Dec 07, 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Problem
> > > =
> > >
> > > On 6 Dec 2023, our client
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 12:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de
wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Problem
> > =
> >
> > On 6 Dec 2023, our client discovered that their UDM Pro could not perform
> >
On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote:
If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine as
well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, etc.**
Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development
Linux phone. Operating system you want is Mobian
Hopefully finally! We should brainstorm our initial thoughts about it
there and once we could envision some completion and continuing hope
to it, we can move it into a formal github open source project:
https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/07/tog-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/
lbrtchx
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye)
I have a Ubiquiti router. Before I installed OpenWRT I explored the OS.
It uses packages from Bullseye but it is certainly not Debian. You
couldn't find that file because it isn't there.
--
John Hasler
On 7/12/23 23:52, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Subject: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces
in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)
You should confirm that the device is actually using that file.
There are at least three different network configuration
nry Kissinger and your
colleague Edward Snowden.
It might have started out as Debian 11, but Ubiquiti have made
unknown changes to it.
> Linux United-States-Space-Command-Secret-Server 4.19.152-ui-alpine #4.19.152
> SMP Thu Apr 6 21:41:48 CST 2023 aarch64 GNU/Linux
This is also not a kernel
On Dec 07, 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Problem
> > =
> >
> > On 6 Dec 2023, our client discovered that their UDM Pro could not perform
> > firmware updates automatically. Their UDM
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
[...]
> Problem
> =
>
> On 6 Dec 2023, our client discovered that their UDM Pro could not perform
> firmware updates automatically. Their UDM Pro was running UniFi OS version
> 3.0.20. Client wants to
hd boot option is
> used, there should be an option to check the size, type and sha*sum of
> the iso)
"bootfrom" would be also nice (I think in knoppix you can even
combine the "bootfrom=<...>.iso" and "toram" start up options!). These
days it doesn't matter muc
Subject: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces
in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)
Good day from Singapore,
Background Information
===
Initially our client has a UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM Pro) acting as a
firewall and router. Port 9 (WAN1
Hello,
it's quite interesting that you use a platform such as wordpress,
running code you can not control, to discuss such matters.
Wouldn't it be more reasonable to self host, using a hoster providing
decent privacy and aonymity or a technology such as Tor? Given the
amount of time and
Oh, well! "My paranoia" as Greg would say ;-)
Yes, they removed it again! I have no effing idea why (other than
messing with me)
You could hopefully see my back and forths with them:
https://wordpress.com/forums/topic/how-long-does-it-take-for-a-new-post-to-become-active/
Let me resume
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:25:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote:
> You may ask me questions or suggest options on my wordpress page:
>
> https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/06/tog-touch-of-god-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/
This page doesn't seem to exist (yet?). I looked at
ToG Linux ("Touch of God" (no blasphemy intended) a la Michelangelo's
"The Creation of Adam", with one of the poetic connotations being, to
make best use of what you know to be certain, what "you can touch"
(can exclusively reach with certainty), is readily avail
Hello,
First, if this post is off-topic, feel free to give me other mailing lists.
I am looking for a device, like a small phone, supporting Debian. I just
need the following features:
- A small LCD screen, 4 inches max, to display letters and numbers, i.e.
can be black and white. Touch
Bon, trouvé.
Dans tcpServer.c, il faut remonter d'une ligne close(newSocket).
Désolé pour le bruit.
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Désolé, j'ai oublié le code serveur.
JB
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#define PORT
int main(){
int sockfd, ret;
struct sockaddr_in serverAddr;
int newSocket;
struct sockaddr_in newAddr;
socklen_t addr_size;
char
Je viens de reproduire la chose avec deux bouts de programmes écrits en
C (voir les deux pièces jointes).
hilbert:[~/rpl-test] > ./server
[+]Server Socket is created.
[+]Bind to port
[+]Listening
accept(3, 4)
Connection accepted from 127.0.0.1:43388
Client: aze
Disconnected from
Bonjour à tous,
Je développe le logiciel suivant http://www.rpl2.fr et un utilisateur
du bout du monde vient de me remonter un bug bizarre sur la gestion des
sockets réseau TCP. Je viens de passer la journée dessus et je ne
comprends pas.
Je précise que la fonction a été
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 02:24:05PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
[...]
> > "You get what you settle for."
> > -- Thelma and Louise
>
> I settled for Debian. Worked out OK 'til now.
This.
Cheers
--
t
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>> But mail as "they" know it has nothing to do with transport or
>> networking. They know it as a service not as anything else.
>> Like electricity. The "freedom" to exchange email is what
>> matters to them.
> Especially if they can control that freedom.
I think the "they" above referred to the
s is an idle threat - there are plenty of other sources of
news - but they've already meekly accepted the tech corps. as
de facto monopolies.
"You get what you settle for."
-- Thelma and Louise
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ /| App
On 14/11/2023 19:52, Махно wrote:
> # apt-get install debian-handbook
This package contains the English book covering Debian 8 “Jessie”
Package description has not been updated.
debian-handbook (11.20220922) unstable; urgency=medium
[...]
[ Raphaël Hertzog ]
* Update the book to be
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:36:18AM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 12:35 PM wrote:
>
> >
> > But yes, in a way convenience can drown out freedom [...]
> But mail as "they" know it has nothing to do with transport or networking.
> They know it as a service not as anything
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 12:35 PM wrote:
>
> But yes, in a way convenience can drown out freedom. See that other
> thread in this mailing list about mail providers. All people flocking
> to gmail although it's clear that Google would like to kill mail
> as we know it.
>
But mail as "they" know it
> # apt-get install debian-handbook
This package contains the English book covering Debian 8 “Jessie”
2023-11-14, an, 01:31 John Hasler rašė:
>
> Much about Debian *doesn't* change. A book about it with
> Bookworm/Trixie as an example and including a discussion of how it does
> change could
n I am
> > dealing with.
>
> Same for me. But I suspect we're in the minority.
>
I'll echo that. And yet in those work situations where I have needed
support for licensed Linux products from Red Hat/IBM, Canonical and AWS,
the support has almost always been better than online community sup
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 08:17:20AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Stefan Monnier writes:
> > I think this still only covers a small fraction of the problem. It
> > just lowers the bar of the "technically-inclined" limit. I think many
> > more people just want to have someone they can call on the
Much about Debian *doesn't* change. A book about it with
Bookworm/Trixie as an example and including a discussion of how it does
change could be quite useful. It could be updated every few years.
--
John Hasler
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA
Stefan Monnier writes:
> I think this still only covers a small fraction of the problem. It
> just lowers the bar of the "technically-inclined" limit. I think many
> more people just want to have someone they can call on the phone to
> help them get through their yearly technical problem.
I
Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> All,
>
> I have been looking for commercial books written about Debian and there is
> very little selection. I am considering writing an updated Debian GNU/Linux
> Bible for Bookworm/Trixie. Before I started writing it I was wondering if
>
> In my experience I get much better support from the user community of
> an open source product then I get from paid support of a commercial
> product. Frequently I know more about the product than the person I am
> dealing with.
Same for me. But I suspect we're in the minority.
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:48 AM Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> >> Indeed, technically-inclined people are often better served with Free
> >> Software, and Free Software can also be a great choice for large
> >> corporations who can either have on-site techsupport people or can hire
> >> external
>> Indeed, technically-inclined people are often better served with Free
>> Software, and Free Software can also be a great choice for large
>> corporations who can either have on-site techsupport people or can hire
>> external support, but it is a lot more difficult to find commercial
>> support
On 11/12/23 09:29, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 11:46:46AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
I do tend to rely on the knowledge and expertise here: Greg - how
would you rate the chances of physical copies of your Bash guides,
for example?
It is an interesting question to
On 11/11/23 22:35, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
I have been looking for commercial books written about Debian and there is
very little selection. I am considering writing an updated Debian GNU/Linux
Bible for Bookworm/Trixie. Before I started writing it I was wondering if
anyone would even
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