Re: OT: Top Posting

On 5/15/24 10:50, Nicolas George wrote: Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely accepted netiquette set of standards. You can add the “Re: ” to that list. It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing else.

Re: OT: Top Posting

of them. . . . Actually, it isn't necessarily the user's fault. Thanks to the "business standard," (and think about the initials) of top-posting over the complete, unpared quote of the entire thread, there are an awful lot of email readers (and especially webmail interfaces) that make it

Re: OT: Top Posting

Since my request started this offtopic subthread I hope I can put it to rest. Yes I requested to not toppost. I asked politely, and I added pertinent response on topic. I do not claim to be right or wrong about this. I prefer interleaved style for reason. Everyone on this list heard all arguments

Re: OT: Top Posting

Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): > PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely > accepted netiquette set of standards. You can add the “Re: ” to that list. It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing else. The MUAs who write “RE: ” are wrong.

Re: OT: Top Posting

On 5/15/24 10:06, Nicolas George wrote: Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense to me. Git

Re: OT: Top Posting

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 09:46:08AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the > magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to > both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense > to me. > > PS

Re: OT: Top Posting

-Original Message- From: Greg Wooledge To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting Date: 05/14/24 13:41:17 On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing

Re: OT: Top Posting

Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): > Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the > magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to > both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense > to me. Git is an order of magnitude younger than

Re: OT: Top Posting

-Original Message- From: gene heskett To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting Date: 05/14/24 10:54:50 On 5/14/24 10:09, Richard wrote: Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing

Markup in mail messages (was: Re: OT: Top Posting)

On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being placed

Re: OT: Top Posting

>>> >>> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett >>> > mailto:loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>>: >>> > >>> > Hi Richard, >>> > >>> > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: >>>

Re: OT: Top Posting

On Tue, 14 May 2024, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> don't y'all have any thing better to do > > You must be new here. sorta i've only been using versions of linux since the early 90's :) downloaded it from an archie

Re: OT: Top Posting

Hello, On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > don't y'all have any thing better to do You must be new here. Get used to reading with a "mark thread read" key in your MUA of choice, is my best advice. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS

Re: OT: Top Posting

Greg Wooledge wrote: > In this particular instance, we've got a person from the second > culture who seems to have no idea that other cultures exist, or that > a mailing list might not adhere to their own expectations. This > person is acting belligerantly, and will not listen to gentle >

Re: OT: Top Posting

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. I can't be sure where they're coming from exactly, but every once in a while I see messages on debian-user, bug-bash or help-bash which have extra asterisk characters

Re: OT: Top Posting

ts cannot do that, its time to switch to an agent >> that can. There are dozens of them. >> >> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett >> > mailto:loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>>: >> > >> > Hi Richard, >&g

Re: OT: Top Posting

well, speaking personally, I can respect both sides. I use a screen reader. Having to wade through loads of text, for a conversational flow, especially when not edited is far from productive for me personally. it is much better to have a top post, for me personally, because I have no issues

Re: OT: Top Posting

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing better to do > i know > how about some real debian issues > Hi, Have a quick look at the Debian-user FAQ posted each month

Re: OT: Top Posting

t. And the “(s)” tells us which culture is more efficient and why. > The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products > in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, > and inline quoting is nigh impossible. Messages are often sent in ei

Re: OT: Top Posting

On 5/14/24 10:41 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: We have a clash of two cultures here. More than just *nix vs. M$. In business communications by email, the norm is to quote the *entire* thread, every time, without paring anything down, purely for the sake of CYA. As such, top-posting is the only

Re: OT: Top Posting

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing better to do It's never going to stop. We have a clash of two cultures here. The first culture are Unix users who grew up with Internet

Re: OT: Top Posting

how many times has this top post crap been dug up don't y'all have any thing better to do i know how about some real debian issues

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

s because for big mailing lists, with long threads, it works much, much better. That said, we usually are tolerant of top posts. What gets me is the hostility of your reaction. You aren't going to convince anyone. Even not with "industry standards" [1] As far as your main concern goes

Re: OT: Top Posting

> > Hi Richard, > > > > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > > > > > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being > replied > > > to) is literally industry standard behavior. > >

Re: OT: Top Posting

:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply t

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a setting. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett < loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>: > Hi Richard, > > Richard wri

OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

Hi Richard, Richard writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply to this newsg

Re: top bar the way I want it

ackage that held the chanages I wanted was called Extension Manager > and Extensions. That file gave me options for the top bar and the > bottom bar. Hope this helps. Thank you. :-) Post your solutions is a good habit. In the future, you may run into the same problem, STFW fo

Re: top bar the way I want it

The package that held the chanages I wanted was called Extension Manager and Extensions.  That file gave me options for the top bar and the bottom bar.  Hope this helps. On 1/20/24 1:46 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 1/19/24 21:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I am using Gnome, and I found

Re: top bar the way I want it

much emails that were written while you were sleeping, it means you will be writing email for some that are sleeping. Do NOT assume that recievers does know what preciously has been written, so do not top post. Reply below precious text. Make it possible that your audience can read in the discussion

Re: top bar the way I want it

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 9:12 AM Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > And, of course, write notes to yourself for EVERY change like this, so > you can remember how you did it. I actually have a quarterly reminder for myself to review my various systems and take notes on changes. Installed packages, make sure

Re: top bar the way I want it

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, at 05:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop the > way I wanted it.  It might be sensible to screenshot the setup you like. If you have similar problems in future it would help enormously to be able to show people

Re: top bar the way I want it

On 1/19/24 21:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I am using Gnome, and I found the stuff I needed to get my desktop the way I wanted it.  I am very happy about it.  Now I just have to put NordVPN to connect with my browser.  Thank you for the help, it is greatly appreciated. I am glad it worked

Re: top bar the way I want it

Insulted wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints? Try to understand the audience that is being asked. Imaging that they were willing to help

Re: top bar the way I want it

On 1/18/24 1:17 AM, Beyond Insulted wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > >> I now have a system that works but I cannot find any > >> utility to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints? > > Try to underst

Re: top bar the way I want it

I am sorry for the way I said that.  What I want is the very top bar, before I re-installed it had three topics on the very top left hand that allowed me to click on one of them and get a menu of all the software installed and in order according to the topic.  Like under internet would list

top bar the way I want it

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 08:40:30PM -0500, Maureen L Thomas wrote: > I now have a system that works but I cannot find any utility > to fix the top bar the way I want it.  Any hints? Try to understand the audience that is being asked. Imaging that they were willing to help and stopped

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 10:54:08PM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello. > > I'm trying to configure Debian 12 / DomU on my (Arm32) Chromebook because I > want to use the Internet and I want its IP address to be seen from > "outside" of my LAN. > > This is the tutorial that I'm following : >

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

It does not care anymore. The instructions on the website are working. It's me that I totally forgot to add the IP on the VIF statement of the debian.cfg file. As soon as I added it and I changed $main_ip with $ip on the vip-route-local,the network started working like a charm. To work the

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

On 20/11/23 05:54, Mario Marietto wrote: root@bookworm:~# ifup enX0 root@bookworm:~# ip a 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo   valid_lft

Re: Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

Errata corrige : nano debian.cfg : kernel = '/Dati/xen/kernels/zImage-6.1.61-stb-xen-cbe+' memory = '768' name = 'Debian-bookworm' vcpus = '1' disk = [ '/Dati/xen/debian.img,,xvda,w' ] vif = [ 'type=vif,mac=00:16:3e:12:34:56,script=vif-route-*local*' ] extra = 'console=hvc0 root=/dev/xvda rw

Temporary failure in name resolution error when I try to ping Debian 12 / DomU running on top of the Devuan 5 host os / Dom0

Hello. I'm trying to configure Debian 12 / DomU on my (Arm32) Chromebook because I want to use the Internet and I want its IP address to be seen from "outside" of my LAN. This is the tutorial that I'm following :

Re: OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

Hello, On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Manphiz wrote: > Personally I don't have a strong preference either way, but would like > to hear more opinions on this. The complaint about a top-posted forwarded message just because it had a contextual hint at the top, seemed excessive to

OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

David Christensen writes: > On 6/22/23 03:28, Ottavio Caruso wrote: >> Am 21/06/2023 um 15:46 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > >>> ... top posting ... > >> ... When the message is forwarded ("Weitergeleitet", ... you have no >> other choice

Re: Unable to minimize Firefox 91.5.0esr at top of frame

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:08 PM John Boxall wrote: > > After upgrading to the latest Debian 10 (Buster) Firefox ESR (91.5.0esr > 64bit), I found that I could not minimize the window by right clicking > on the top of the window frame and selecting "Minimize", whether the

Re: Unable to minimize Firefox 91.5.0esr at top of frame

On 2022-01-13 17:55, Ralph Katz wrote: 1)  Latest Debian stable is 11 (Bullseye). 2)  Latest Firefox ESR is today's security upgrade, 91.5.0esr (64-bit). 3)  On my XFCE desktop, firefox functions exactly as you seek. Perhaps you have desktop environment or window manager issue?  More details

Re: Unable to minimize Firefox 91.5.0esr at top of frame

On 1/13/22 12:07, John Boxall wrote: After upgrading to the latest Debian 10 (Buster) Firefox ESR (91.5.0esr 64bit), I found that I could not minimize the window by right clicking on the top of the window frame and selecting "Minimize", whether the menu bar was present or not

Unable to minimize Firefox 91.5.0esr at top of frame

After upgrading to the latest Debian 10 (Buster) Firefox ESR (91.5.0esr 64bit), I found that I could not minimize the window by right clicking on the top of the window frame and selecting "Minimize", whether the menu bar was present or not. The menu for selecting minimize was not ev

Re: Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 12:12:45 PM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 11.02.2021 20:58, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- > > metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. > It sur

Re: Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 10:58:10AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- > metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. > > Comments: > >* I've never seen that before (I've never even

Re: Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On 11.02.2021 20:58, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. Comments: * I've never seen that before (I've never even noticed that I had such as task running (I didn't

Why is gvfsd-metadata my top task in top -- is it a problem, and what should I do if it is.

On my Wheezy system, I've noticed that for the past 2 or 3 days, gvfsd- metadata has been the top running task when I check with top. Comments: * I've never seen that before (I've never even noticed that I had such as task running (I didn't look for it, but I didn't see it) * I did

Re: Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

stop spamung me asshole Me Maw

Re: Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

requesting removal of spyware

Re: Re: OT?: FAT32(/16?) Question: Max. files in top level

i would like to request any and all media associated with the following: Any and all Parties who contributed to, participated it, and or redistributed the following in question; any and all media , including but not limited to: recordings ; audio and or video, text messages, phone calls,

Re: Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:14:16 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > If someone can't be bothered to take the time to write a readable > message, I can't be bothered to take the time to decipher it. On the other tentacle, this sort of thing is usually the province of newbies. I think it would help to

Re: Top-posting

Charlie Gibbs composed on 2020-08-30 09:14 (UTC-0700): > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + Andy Smith wrote: >>> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >>> difficult to read your

Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + > Andy Smith wrote: > >> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >> difficult to read your emails so I mostly haven't bothered. > > Hear, hear. My se

Top Urgent

Hello dear I have a business to discuss with you please reply to confirm that this is your email Regards Hassan Al Redha

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

I probably shouldn't prolong this thread but... Maybe this cartoon will help: https://blog.toggl.com/save-princess-8-programming-languages/ More seriously, I was recently asked which languages to learn and I wrote up a list of what I thought was important. See below. On 18/10/2019 03:33,

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Dan Ritter wrote: > deloptes wrote: >> SQL, Python, PERL, C/C++, JAVA. I wonder why I did not see PHP ... but >> well. > > For about a decade, PHP was the province of people who copied > scripts from Matt's Script Archive and didn't know what security > holes they were creating. > > Sometime in

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

deloptes wrote: > SQL, Python, PERL, C/C++, JAVA. I wonder why I did not see PHP ... but well. For about a decade, PHP was the province of people who copied scripts from Matt's Script Archive and didn't know what security holes they were creating. Sometime in the last five years or so, the PHP

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > Spend an hour or two with the job advertisements (which is what the OP > > needs to do) to see the enormous range of what employers *think* they > > want, and this is what the young ladies in HR will definitely require > > of an applicant. > > Especially

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 09:46 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > deloptes writes: > > SQL comes everywhere handy... > > SQL is certainly handy, but I don't consider it a programming language > (likewise HTML). About 20 years ago I wrote and tested a match-merge update program with (as I remember) the

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On 2019-10-19 08:11, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Have a nice day :) cheers mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

achine. But I figured if a had to do it, do it right. :) FWIW, I still have 2 audio carts filled with backups of that program and a type written printout of its program on the top shelf of the bookcases on the walls of this room. My man cave. Memories of times past... Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:34:06 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > And it's not so much fundamental languages as the buzzwords, the > > frameworks, 'agile' programming, AJAX, and things like proprietary > > CMS (C for both content and customer) systems. Nobody ever asks for > > basic

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Thomas D Dial writes: > FORTRAN is somewhat similar, but has a smaller, more stable, and mors > specialized application space and often, I think, is maintained by the > successors of the program users who wrote it originally. A good deal > of it may, by now, have been replaced by C, C++, Python,

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Sat, 2019-10-19 at 09:48 +0200, deloptes wrote: > James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > > The OP wanted this treated as a survey, and so . . . > > > > Many dialects and derivatives of BASIC, including (but not limited > > to) > > IBM VS-BASIC (ran on 370 and compatible mainframes), TRS-80 Level 1, >

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

deloptes writes: > SQL comes everywhere handy... SQL is certainly handy, but I don't consider it a programming language (likewise HTML). If you *do* consider HTML a programming language the crawling horrors that most Web sites send out make the worst BASIC spaghetti balls look like something out

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On 10/19/2019 08:26 AM, deloptes wrote: [SNIP] SQL comes everywhere handy, because you have to store the data somewhere - but still there is difference between Oracle, MySQL/MariaDB or sqlite. Each one has its advantages and disadvantages - and SQL for the one is likely not compatible with SQL

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Joe wrote: > And it's not so much fundamental languages as the buzzwords, the > frameworks, 'agile' programming, AJAX, and things like proprietary CMS > (C for both content and customer) systems. Nobody ever asks for basic > programming skills. You are sooo right, but one must understand the

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Joe wrote: > Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings? It was 45 years ago, but > I still remember... Indeed - I have the feeling here only people from the home for the elderly (Seniorenheim) are posting - BASIC, COBOL, PASCAL ... OMG Though I must admit there were some good posts around

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Joe quotes: > "If you think you need to use floating point, you don't fully > understand your application." Right. There isn't anything you can't do with bignum. I wrote software for control systems using cpus such as the RCA 1802. You can do a lot more with 8 bit integers than seems possible

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Joe writes: > Spend an hour or two with the job advertisements (which is what the OP > needs to do) to see the enormous range of what employers *think* they > want, and this is what the young ladies in HR will definitely require > of an applicant. Especially amusing are the ads that demand five

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Hi, Joe wrote: > "If you think you need to use floating point, you don't fully > understand your application." +0.9 Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 11:09:06 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > John Hasler wrote: > > > FORTRAN on 1620s and 370s, > > Joe wrote: > > Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings? > > 212H Of course you don't do string processing in FORTRAN. It's for > problems which you can solve

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Hi, John Hasler wrote: > > FORTRAN on 1620s and 370s, Joe wrote: > Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings? 212H Of course you don't do string processing in FORTRAN. It's for problems which you can solve by representing everything as homogeneous coordinates and then computing the result

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:34:57 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > I guess some people who started with BASIC do eventually recover. > And then you say: > FORTRAN on 1620s and 370s, Seriously? BASIC worse than Hollerith strings? It was 45 years ago, but I still remember... -- Joe

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:50:29 +0100 Brian wrote: > > > Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > > Nobody has answered the question yet. > Because there isn't an answer. Spend an hour or two with the job advertisements (which is what the OP n

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

> Turritopsis Dohrnii > > Jellyfish. Hard to grasp. > > >  How long will it take > > Where's that piece of string? > > > Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > > Nobody has answered the question yet. It was in the survey - this whole thread was teaser to go and read the survey.

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

James H. H. Lampert wrote: > The OP wanted this treated as a survey, and so . . . > > Many dialects and derivatives of BASIC, including (but not limited to) > IBM VS-BASIC (ran on 370 and compatible mainframes), TRS-80 Level 1, > Level 2, and Mod I Disk BASIC, GWBASIC, and the various QBASICs >

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Never did much Perl, but I think anything (well, not sure about obfuscated > C) is more readable than APL. I am not sure if it makes sense to compare a modern car engine with one constructed 150y ago.

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Hi, i wrote: > > The overall design paradigm is object oriented but without fancy stuff > > like overloading or inheritance. Encapsulation and aggregation must > > suffice. mick crane wrote: > This is interesting topic for me but don't know what these words > "overloading or inheritance.

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On 18/10/2019 15:33, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages do you know? I am considering being a programmer or developer. How long will it take for me to master a programming language like C++, Java, and Python? Mastery is a

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Friday, October 18, 2019 06:33:19 PM Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > Perl is a whole lot more readable than APL. Never did much Perl, but I think anything (well, not sure about obfuscated C) is more readable than APL.

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

The OP wanted this treated as a survey, and so . . . Many dialects and derivatives of BASIC, including (but not limited to) IBM VS-BASIC (ran on 370 and compatible mainframes), TRS-80 Level 1, Level 2, and Mod I Disk BASIC, GWBASIC, and the various QBASICs (QuickBASIC and QBX). (I took one

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, at 23:34, John Hasler wrote: > I guess some people who started with BASIC do eventually recover. It's not all that bad. At my first place of employment, we ran WATERLOO BASIC (from the University of Waterloo) for students to learn how to program. This was on an IBM

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

Thomas writes: > The only right way is to work down from a BASIC on ROM, which is said > to have in part been coded by William Henry Gates III himself, to a > self-made assembler, and then back to Rocky Mountain BASIC on HP > desktops. Finally you move to a Unix workstation (16 MHz and 4 MB of >

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

This discussion is spammed across a whole bunch of linux dstro mail lists. On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, at 19:56, ghe wrote: > Pascal teaches you to think good thoughts. It's was a wonderful language > to learn back in the late 1970s. Yes, or Algol... > Perl's mantra is "There's more than one way to

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Fri 18 Oct 2019 at 23:22:37 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Doug McGarrett wrote: > > [...] and I learned to use BASIC. > > And ? Any recognizable damage left ? :o) > > > (This was in the days when we had > > an acoustic modem and a Teletype machine, and the mainframe was > > 1500 miles

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On Fri 18 Oct 2019 at 13:26:03 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > On 10/18/2019 09:31 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > > > > > > This is just a

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

On 2019-10-18 22:22, Thomas Schmitt wrote: But with a text editor i write a description in form of C structures and function stubs, which i fill by remarks to roughly describe what to have or to do where and when. Already during this design stage i use as much compilable C code as possible to

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Hi, Doug McGarrett wrote: > [...] and I learned to use BASIC. And ? Any recognizable damage left ? :o) > (This was in the days when we had > an acoustic modem and a Teletype machine, and the mainframe was > 1500 miles away!) I had a color tv and a VIC-20 on the couch table. > Later, I

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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:26:03 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote: > On 10/18/2019 09:31 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > >> Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > >> > >> This is just a quick survey. M

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On 10/18/19 11:44 AM, hdv@gmail wrote: > On 18/10/2019 19.26, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > ... > >> I'm not sure if any Pascal compilers are still available, but >> Turbo was the most popular back when. Until the last version >> came out, and it was too complicated for its own good. > > Forgive

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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:26:03 > From: Doug McGarrett > To: Dan Ritter , > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > Resent-D

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On 18/10/2019 19.26, Doug McGarrett wrote: ... > I'm not sure if any Pascal compilers are still available, but > Turbo was the most popular back when. Until the last version > came out, and it was too complicated for its own good. Forgive me for barging in, but I just had to answer that. Sure

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On 10/18/2019 09:31 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages do you know? I am considering being a programmer or developer. How long

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Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Subject: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want > > This is just a quick survey. May I know what programming languages do > you know? I am considering being a programmer or developer. > How long will it take for me to maste

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