Re: Matrox Millenium II vs. #9 Revolution 3D
Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Yukhimets wrote: I am about to get a new P II system and had to decide on many alterantives available. My current concern is what video card would suit me the best. I have no doubt that I would go with AGP one (even not for the sake of performance, but to save PCI slot :) and my current choice is between Matrox Millenium II AGP and Number Nine Revolution 3D AGP. Matrox seems to be the fastest under X (and free driver is already available from S.u.S.E.), Revolution 3D is faster under Windows. I do not intend to use Windows a lot, so the best bet would be Matrox, but I heard the opinion that in spite of the fact that it is the fastest, it's image quality is substantially worse than that of Number Nine cards. Could anyone confirm this? As luck would have it, I just installed debian on one of each of these (neither was mine :( ), and I didn't notice a problem with either in terms of image quality. Both could drive their monitors up to 1800x1440 at some flicker-free rate (but I'm very tolerant), and both work fairly well with alpha versions of XFree86. If you wanted to use XFree86, the Matrox is a better choice, since there is an SuSE server for that. The alpha servers work well enough that it's a good bet both cards will be well supported in the next XFree86 release. The Matrox code is down to mostly performance tuning, while the #9 still has a few glitches. The Matrox does packed-24bpp, which is nicer on memory but causes a few pixmap weirdnesses, though. And another thing, assuming I would have to use Accelerated X server with my card, what are the cons of the fact that server is libc5 compiled and my system will be libc6-based (of course, I would have to install libc5 runtime libraries also). I don't know about AccelX, but I believe that the Xfree86 compiles under both. I think the SuSE server was compiled with ibc5, since it runs under vanilla debian 1.3.1(bo). Both cards use WRAM. Millenium II uses 250Mhz RAMDAC and Revolution 3D uses 220Mhz, if you have a high end monitor, eg. Viewsonic 815, I don't think Revolution 3D can display 1600x1200 16-bit color at 85Hz refresh rate. The XFree86 run a max pixel clock of 230MHz on the Mil2, which runs 1600x1200 at 85Hz and 1800x1440 at 64 Hz, both of which look flicker-free to everyone I asked to look on a Sony 21 monitor. The i128 server used for the #9 does max out at 220MHz, so I had to doctor the 1800x1440, but it still seems fine to me on a Nokia 445X... this modeline ModeLine 1800x1440m 2201800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync looks fine to me, but should only be around 61Hz. The following modeline is a standard(ish) one for XFree86, which should let you do 1600x1200 @85Hz on both cards: # 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync Modeline 1600x1200 2201600 1616 1808 2080 1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync +VSync In any case, both cards can do their 1800x1440 at 8,16,24, or 32bpp, so I'm not sure where you got the 16bpp number. I also should check the 250MHz number, but I'm not near my Matrox documentation; certainly, XFree86 assumes it's 230MHz max. Anyway, they're both good cards, and they should both be XFree86able in the next release, but if you want XFree support now, there is an SuSE server for the Mil2AGP but not (last time I checked) for the #9 Rev3d. $0.02 - M -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Monty Montague | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I don't do Windows(tm) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DON'T PANIC! I'm a trained professional, and far more | *Why* question qualified to panic in this situation than you are. | authority? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian 1.3.1 apache
On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 10:47:57AM +, Berni Ernst wrote: I have an debian box with version 1.3.1 where I want to run apache as a http server. Works! But I am unable to run any cgi scripts or SSI in my html documents. I commented out the described parts in srm.conf. What else can I do or where should I have a special look for ? access.conf may need examination too. How do you mean you are unable to run them? What error message do you get, both in the browser and in the server logs? What do you mean you commented out the described parts of srm.conf? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Not really a Debian question, Netscape bookmarks?
I just downloaded Netscape 4.04 for my Debian box. It looks interesting, but i have a pretty baci question. I have a *lot* of bookmarks. In Version 3 there was a window which gave you a scrolled list of the entries in your bookmark file. Where does this live in version 4? Thanks for the help on this. -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]770-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Real Audio
Mark Ciciretti wrote: I got the Real audio player working. I just ran the install scripts that came with it and added it to my path. I had some problems with the real video player. Last month, or the month before there was some discussion on the list about Real Audio. Someone released a Real Video installer. I don't know if it is aviable on the Debian sites or not. I can't rember the site where I downloaded it from. It's available on any debian mirror in hamm/contrib/ -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Man Pages -- Section 2?
Where did the Section 2 man pages go? They had been located in the manpages package. Thanks Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: UPS
I concur that Best Power's products; eg, the Fortress that I also use, have a well deserved reputation. While the inexpensive Fortress models may not still have all the push buttons they did a year ago; when the lights got bright here, the firemen came to put out an electrical fire next door, no one had a clue. The firemen just saw another fire, my neighboring computer users just saw entertainment, but my Best UPS was beeping madly, and after 70 minutes I didn't even wait for the Best software to send my computer a shutdown command. My best computer showed an incoming voltage of 141 volts, though it showed an outgoing voltage of 118 volts. With dozens of people standing around, only this owner of a best power supply knew that the electrical fire originated from a voltage jump. The Best Power company also got a very good plug in the most referred to unix administrator's book, Unix Administrator's Guide (?) by Nemi (?), et al. On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, David Stern wrote: Is a UPS good protection or is it fluff? It's well worth it. My UPS has saved my system at least four times in the past year. Are there any Linux UPS resources out there other than the HOWTO ? I'd like to find out which models have intelligent UPS features working with Linux, and which models ship with prefabricated RS-232 cables for Linux. I recommend Best Power's products (I use their intelligent Fortress model on my single-user sytem), see a recent copy of the UPS HOWTO. They are a little more expensive than, say, APC, but my impression is that the hardware is superior; better yet, they openly support GNU/Linux, and include the source to the accompanying software (which is easy to install). And a cable is included. -- Jim Burt, NJ9L, Fairfax, Virginia, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mnsinc.com/jameson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If merely 'feeling good' could decide, drunkenness would be the supremely valid human experience. --William James, Varieties of Religious Experience -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Man Pages -- Section 2?
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, Paul Serice wrote: Where did the Section 2 man pages go? They had been located in the manpages package. They were moved to manpages-dev so that people who don't need the syscall info don't have to install it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Setting up a PPP Server
G. H. wrote: I've been searching 2+ days in information on setting up Debian as a Dial-In PPP Server and have found NOTHING! Sure there's plenty of info on hooking up Debian to an ISP. But I want Debian to BE an ISP. All I need is support for 2 incoming lines to connect us to our TCP/IP Network and Internet connection. Can someone help me out with this? I would be very thankful and could possibly send you some of the hair that I've pulled out!! ;) http://www.buoy.com/isp would be a start. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. -- George Benson The Greatest Love of All ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installation problem
Hi, I just got a Micron Transport XKE and I'm trying to install debian. The problem I have is that after booting of the kernel from the rescue1440 diskette and entering the menu for the istallation the system hangs. The keyboard does not work any more and I have to turn off/on the computer to reboot. The hard drive and the cd-rom are correctly detected. At the beginning I get some warnings about Hardware detection. I read the hardware compatibility HOWTO and found this problem. They basically say to ignore the warnings. So looks like this is not the problem ... maybe. Another thing. In the installation guide is said to disable all shadowing on video and bios. I discovered that the bios setup utility does not allow me to change the default setting (shadow ram enabled on video and bios) so it looks like is permanently enabled. System: Micron Tranport XKE 200 Mhz MMX Intel 430TX chipset Phoenix NoteBIOS 4.0 release 6.0 64M Ram PLEASE H! Cannot stand this windows 95 any more ! Many thanks for any help. -- Guglielmo Rabbiolo Mathematics Department - Purdue University - West Lafayette IN USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.math.purdue.edu/~rabbio -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: getting started in Xwin (Help)
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:35:55 GMT, Rick wrote: Hi I am a compleate newbie to this whole linux thang(but am making some progress - but not much), i have just recived the 'official' cd, and am wondering about how to get this xwin thing to work. i have read loads of docs (etc) but am having very little joy I've often found that taking a break helps concentration and thus joy. can somebody please help me get xwin running on my system AMD 5x86 133mhz (486) Matrox Mystique II, 4mb unknown second hand ICL 14 monitor (no information) UK win95 keybd MS 'Home' 2 but mouse (the dark blue one!) I am compleatly stuck, i have downloaded the matrox specific suse tgz files, then install and run fine, but am still buggered (even when i think everything is going well), can i install a basic vga version just to get me started? if so how! help! Getting vga mode to work should be pretty simple. The only reason svga might not be as easy is that I dunno if your vid card is supported and it'd be advisable to find out your monitor specs. Anyway, this is how I'd do it: Put cd into drive. Become root. Type dselect in the console and press enter. Confirm that you access method is cdrom, and directories are correct. If you last used the cdrom access method in dselect, you can probably skip this step. Type s and press enter to go into select mode. Type / then vga (or another search string) and press enter, then \ until you find the xserver-vga16 package. Type + and then fulfill any outstanding dependencies which may arise (possibly ldso and libc5) in the same manner. Since this is a vga only install, uninstall the xserver-svga package by highlighting it and then pressing _ to purge it, just to be sure it's not causing any hassles. Press enter to exit select mode (fulfill any remaining dependencies if they arise). Type i and press enter to install the selected package(s) and accept defaults as they arise. Dselect should then run a configuration utility where you enter your monitor and video card information. If you don't know what your monitor specs are, you may choose at your own risk to use the lamest setting you think might work. There is a brief test, which I'd recommend you use if you choose to go that route. If configuration doesn't run or aborts, after you exit dselect you should be able to type XF86Setup or xf86config, or something like that. If neither works, type X or x and then press the tab key to see all your possibilities. This feature is called Tab Completion (or something like that) and is a feature of your console shell (bash, by default). Look for something similar to XConfig. Such programs also have man pages (e.g.: man XConfig) which provide further information. Type r and press enter to remove the xserver-svga package. Type c and press enter to run through any outstanding configuration. Type q and press enter to quit. For testing, it's ok to remain root. Type startx and press enter. After several seconds, you should see whatever your default windows manager you have installed, probably fvwm95 (depends on fvwm-common --you did install these before, right?). If you want to see if you have a fvwm window manager installed, type dpkg -l | grep fvwm and press enter. This pipes a listing of all your installed packages through grep fvwm which will only display lines which have fvwm in them, so that hundreds of packages don't go scrolling off your screen. -- David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mail!
wow! I can finally get online with my linux box!:). Thanx 2 everyone who gave me advice. I'm looking for a mail (perferably X based) program to receive/send email from my ISP's POP3 server. Can anyone recomend a good one for me? Oh yeah Can anyone point me to drivers/setup howtos for my peripherals - a umax astra 1200s scanner, an iomega ditto tape drive, and an HP deskjet printer. thanks, Timothy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Oh yeah!
I'm also looking for drivers for an APC UPS, and my Ensoniq Soundscape sound board. Thanx Timothy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail!
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:42:24, Timothy Hospedales wrote: wow! I can finally get online with my linux box!:). Thanx 2 everyone who gave me advice. I'm looking for a mail (perferably X based) program to receive/send email from my ISP's POP3 server. Can anyone recomend a good one for me? I tried a number of approaches and I can recommend: Mail Transport Agent: smail Mail Forwarding Agent: fetchmail Mail User Agent (email client): exmh Mail Filter: procmail (optional) You could use exmh to retrieve your email, but using fetchmail is more modular, which has benefits if you want to use another email client, which also might be useful in console mode if X-windows wasn't available. Mail config info I found useful in addition to books, HOWTOs, man pages: Steve Kosteke's: http://www.mindspring.com/~stk3/linux/ppp/ Daniel Martin's: http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html -- David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
sound
I have a SB 16 PnP, and I am using Debian 1.3.1 stable. I have installed the isapnp package. Do I need to do anything special to generate a voxware kernel module appropriate for my system? I just looked at the output of pnpdump, and I think that I can figure out how to set the card to a particular IRQ etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Thomas E. Vaughan[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1634 S. Memphis St., Aurora, CO 80017(303) 750-7864 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help Backpack CD-ROM
On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 08:55:20AM -0500, BRIAN SCHRAMM wrote: Well, I am at work today and I do not see any mention of a backpack driver. Any Ideas? Brian No, sorry. Adam Klein __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Re: Help Backpack CD-ROM Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at INTERNET Date:12/25/97 5:48 PM Adam Klein wrote: On Wed, Dec 24, 1997 at 04:58:29PM -0500, Brian Schramm wrote: I am trying to install Debian 1.31 from a backpack cd. I get a message saying that /dev/bpcd is not a block device. I have selected the cdrom module in the device install. Any Ideas? You need to also select the module for the backpack cd drive, and you probably don't need the cdrom module. Adam Klein I did not see a backpack cd module in the list but when I get back to work I will check. Thanks for the help. Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian 1.3.1 apache
At 11:27 27/12/97 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 10:47:57AM +, Berni Ernst wrote: I have an debian box with version 1.3.1 where I want to run apache as a http server. Works! But I am unable to run any cgi scripts or SSI in my html documents. I commented out the described parts in srm.conf. What else can I do or where should I have a special look for ? access.conf may need examination too. How do you mean you are unable to run them? What error message do you get, both in the browser and in the server logs? What do you mean you commented out the described parts of srm.conf? Hamish This may be a bit obvious, but I found, when I was trying to get SSI to work, that just editing the conf files was not good enough: I had to run 'apacheconfig' afterwards. Once you have done that, view /etc/apache/httpd.conf and check that the line for mod_includes has been uncommented. Occasionally, it needed a reboot to get the changes to 'take'. I would recomend reading up the docs on SSI at http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_include.html. - I did what it told me, and it all worked fine/. CGI I didn't have any problem with, as long as I put them in /usr/lib/cgi-bin (default aliased to http:/cgi-bin/) I believe there are settings to change if you want them anywhere else, but I havn't investigated those. Rob. http://www.irrelevant.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: debian 1.3.1 apache
On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 09:23:19AM +, Rob wrote: This may be a bit obvious, but I found, when I was trying to get SSI to work, that just editing the conf files was not good enough: I had to run 'apacheconfig' afterwards. Once you have done that, view /etc/apache/httpd.conf and check that the line for mod_includes has been uncommented. Occasionally, it needed a reboot to get the changes to 'take'. You're correct; if you let apacheconfig work out which modules to use itself initially, it won't include mod_include unless you've used it in your web page (I don't know exactly how it works it out). I tend to configure it by hand with what I think I might need rather than what it thinks I already need. That way I don't run in to problems with things just not working. Glad to hear that it is working. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Oh yeah!
On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 09:43:12PM -0800, George Bonser wrote: For sound drivers, use the OSS commercial sound drivers. For $20, you can't beat it with a stick. But for most cards, you can beat it in value for money with the free sound drivers in the kernel, in my experience at least. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Oh yeah!
I suppose that all depends. There are some cards that the kernel drivers do not support that the commercial version does and it really boils down to how much you value your time. If the OSS drivers save you an hour or two, it is probably money well spent. For the $20 you get upgrades as future versions are become available and if you need to change sound cards, rerunning the OSS setup makes the switch a snap. I for one am happy to support the vendor of a quality Linux product. If the driver was junk, I would say so. Fact is, it is pretty good. On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 09:43:12PM -0800, George Bonser wrote: For sound drivers, use the OSS commercial sound drivers. For $20, you can't beat it with a stick. But for most cards, you can beat it in value for money with the free sound drivers in the kernel, in my experience at least. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Oh yeah!
On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 02:01:09AM -0800, George Bonser wrote: I suppose that all depends. There are some cards that the kernel drivers do not support that the commercial version does and it really boils down to how much you value your time. If the OSS drivers save you an hour or two, it is probably money well spent. For the $20 you get upgrades as future versions are become available and if you need to change sound cards, rerunning the OSS setup makes the switch a snap. I for one am happy to support the vendor of a quality Linux product. If the driver was junk, I would say so. Fact is, it is pretty good. I agree, it is a good product. However I tend to change kernels quite often (following the development kernels), and that means downloading new binary modules each time, assuming they're available yet. I've always been a bit mystified as to why the same author (Hannu) maintains both the free and commercial sound drivers. And when people started asking for it to be split into different modules for each chip type, which the commercial version already had, then somebody else contributed the patches to OSS/Free to do this. Bizarre. The free software bigot in me doesn't let me appreciate OSS/Linux as much as I might. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Apache 1.2.4 Binary Version
On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Aaron Walker wrote: : I just downloaded the binary version of Apache 1.2.4 for my Debian 1.3.1 : machine. At the Apache site, it says if you have a binary version, : there will be a file called httpd in the src directory. I have no httpd : file in my src directory. Does anyone know why this is? : Please help. Thanks. If you downloaded a binary distribution from Apache's ftpsite, I suggest you download a source from that site, and compile it yourself. You'll find the httpd binary in the src directory after successfull compilation. If you installed the debian-package, your src/httpd is called /usr/sbin/apache ;) bye, Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
any monetary support for Xfree
Does SPI, Debian specifically, or any of its CD vendors support Xfree86 in anyway?? Seems that since w/out a windows environment Linux could not be as popular. It seems that it would help to give them aid as well. On a similar line, please consider supporting Xfree yourself, the user. **[DISCLAIMER]** I am in no way related to XFree. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: sound
I have a SB 16 PnP, and I am using Debian 1.3.1 stable. I have installed the isapnp package. Do I need to do anything special to generate a voxware kernel module appropriate for my system? I just looked at the output of pnpdump, and I think that I can figure out how to set the card to a particular IRQ etc. you're probably already set to IRQ 5 unless someone changed it already. Just enter this 5 when configureing the kernel, tell it you want sb16, fm synthesis, and /dev/dsp support, and you're in business rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Rocks'n'Daimonds
This game just made it resently into Debian, and I tried it... but so far I haven't gotten past the level, has anyone else? There is one daimond at lower left corner, trapped behind three rocks, and obviously your supposed to snap it quickly before the top rocks falls on you. However, I'd really like to know if anyone has been able to do that... as it doesn't seem to be responsive enough on my computer? Orn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice+fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bo to hamm upgrade
Does anyone have a set of instructions for hand upgrading a working bo system to the present hamm? I saw some such instructions posted a month or so ago, but didn't have the foresight to save the message. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated; thanks in advance. Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo to hamm upgrade
Does anyone have a set of instructions for hand upgrading a working bo system to the present hamm? I saw some such instructions posted a month or so ago, but didn't have the foresight to save the message. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated; thanks in advance. You can find them in the unstable tree of the ftp site with the installation instructions. rick -- These opinions will not be those of ISU until it pays my retainer. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rocks'n'Daimonds
On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 05:55:14PM +0100, Orn E. Hansen wrote: This game just made it resently into Debian, and I tried it... but so far I haven't gotten past the level, has anyone else? There is one daimond at lower left corner, trapped behind three rocks, and obviously your supposed to snap it quickly before the top rocks falls on you. However, I'd really like to know if anyone has been able to do that... as it doesn't seem to be responsive enough on my computer? Gosh, I want to cry out, RTFM!. A hint: /usr/doc/README.gz, line 165-166 Thank you, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Debian GNU/Linux Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo to hamm upgrade
On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 01:14:56PM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a set of instructions for hand upgrading a working bo system to the present hamm? I saw some such instructions posted a month or so ago, but didn't have the foresight to save the message. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated; thanks in advance. You can find them in the unstable tree of the ftp site with the installation instructions. Or online: http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html Have Fun! Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Debian GNU/Linux Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Rocks'n'Daimonds
On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 08:14:41PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 05:55:14PM +0100, Orn E. Hansen wrote: This game just made it resently into Debian, and I tried it... but so far I haven't gotten past the level, has anyone else? There is one daimond at lower left corner, trapped behind three rocks, and obviously your supposed to snap it quickly before the top rocks falls on you. However, I'd really like to know if anyone has been able to do that... as it doesn't seem to be responsive enough on my computer? Gosh, I want to cry out, RTFM!. A hint: /usr/doc/README.gz, line 165-166 *blush* should be: /usr/doc/rocks-n-diamonds/README.gz, but I'm sure you know that already, ... Thank you, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Debian GNU/Linux Marcus Brinkmann http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
can´t use FIPS on windows 95
Hiya all! I´m new to the list, and of course I have some questions. 1) There is no UMSDOS for debian isn´t it? 2) I bought my computer and it comes preinstalled with windows 95, so all of the hard disk is in one single partion. Reading the files that come with the debian distribution I read that I could use fips, but unfortunatly when I run it it stops with an error: that the partiosn is OBh or something... I suposse, as I read further, fips only can do partitions on msdos file systems, and I have a pure windows 95 FAT32... So the question is: How can I shrink my only one partition ! even if it is a windows 95 one. Tnx for the answers you could gave me. Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Hard Disk Error Msg: Drive door open
I am having a problem installing debian linux. when the installation program tries to write to the hard drive it produces nothing but error messages. It goes by too fast but I think it says that the drive door on my hard drive is open. I don't understand this because I know that my hard drive does not have a door on it. Can anyone help me with this problem? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing Debian and setting up PCMCIA E-net
Hey everyone, I'm trying to install Debian after having Redhat installed on my system. I've gone through the install, but I'm confused as to how I can make my ethernet card work. The card is a PCMCIA 3-com 3c589a. It doesn't seem as if there's any driver for it in the installer, and as far as using a module to do it, I'm not real sure what to do. When I try to install the PCMCIA packages (pcmcia-cs and the modules) the modules tell me that the version of cs is too new, and cs tells me that there are first: no modules, and second: that there are no PCMCIA devices in /proc/devices. Would appreciate any help regarding how I can make this work. Thanks -Asher Haig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail!
netscape comes with mail client, give it a try, pretty easy to set up. good luck kusuma Timothy Hospedales wrote: wow! I can finally get online with my linux box!:). Thanx 2 everyone who gave me advice. I'm looking for a mail (perferably X based) program to receive/send email from my ISP's POP3 server. Can anyone recomend a good one for me? Oh yeah Can anyone point me to drivers/setup howtos for my peripherals - a umax astra 1200s scanner, an iomega ditto tape drive, and an HP deskjet printer. thanks, Timothy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: can?t use FIPS on windows 95
See http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html This should answer all your questions and includes a link to a new version of fips which has limited support for FAT32 (w/o LBA). On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Jes?s Antonio Santgos Giraldo wrote: Hiya all! I´m new to the list, and of course I have some questions. 1) There is no UMSDOS for debian isn´t it? Friends don't let friends use UMSDOS 2) I bought my computer and it comes preinstalled with windows 95, so all of the hard disk is in one single partion. Reading the files that come with the debian distribution I read that I could use fips, but unfortunatly when I run it it stops with an error: that the partiosn is OBh or something... I suposse, as I read further, fips only can do partitions on msdos file systems, and I have a pure windows 95 FAT32... So the question is: How can I shrink my only one partition ! even if it is a windows 95 one. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo to hamm upgrade
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html Thanks Marcus! One quick question if you don't mind: When installing libc6 in place of libc5, should I force the removal of the essential libc5 package first or force the installation of libc6 in addition to libc5? I'm assuming it's the former, but want to make sure first. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/ __ o .|/ / _ _ _ _ _ __ __ Randy| / /__ / / / \// //_// \ \/ / ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | // /_/ /_/\/ /___/ /_/\_\ | ...because lockups are for convicts... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo to hamm upgrade
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Randy Edwards wrote: Marcus Brinkmann wrote: http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html Thanks Marcus! One quick question if you don't mind: When installing libc6 in place of libc5, should I force the removal of the essential libc5 package first or force the installation of libc6 in addition to libc5? I'm assuming it's the former, but want to make sure first. Thanks in advance. Neither. If you remove libc5, you will break your system and have to reinstall completely. I repeat, DO NOT FORCE THE REMOVAL OF LIBC5 UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Either downgrade to the earlier version of libc5 I list at the end of the howto, or upgrade both libc5 and libc6 from hamm on the same dpkg command line. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail!
Are you guys using Netscape 3.01? Thats the version that the netscape debian package is. I take it there are no newer versions of netscape for linux? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Does anyone know what the story is with JDK? .According to my packages file, the stable debian packages is ver 1.0.2.. Sun recently released ver 1.2 (For Solaris/Windoze).. Is the package behind because Sun hasn't released any / any stable versions for linux beyond 1.0.2, or because the package hasn't been updated, or what? Thanx, Timothy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: your mail
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Timothy Hospedales wrote: Does anyone know what the story is with JDK? .According to my packages file, the stable debian packages is ver 1.0.2.. Sun recently released ver 1.2 (For Solaris/Windoze).. Is the package behind because Sun hasn't released any / any stable versions for linux beyond 1.0.2, or because the package hasn't been updated, or what? I believe its up to 1.1.3. See www.blackdown.org. -mdf = Matthew D. Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.txdirect.net/users/mdfranz[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Mail!
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Timothy Hospedales wrote: Are you guys using Netscape 3.01? Thats the version that the netscape debian package is. I take it there are no newer versions of netscape for linux? There's a version of communicator for linux someplace, but I'm still using 3.01 ... communicator is kinda bloated, and I really only want it for the browser; I don't care about the mail interfaces, etc. ... A word about the the netscape debian package -- redistribution terms on netscape are screwy, so the package you found requires you to first download the proper binary release .tar.gz file from ftp.netscape.com, and the package installs it for you. I beleive that there is a communicator installer-package probably in unstable. If you want a simple, powerful email/news client, I recommend pine. It's nonfree because you can't redistribute it for profit, but works good, and runs really well in an xterm ... I use it because it's what we use at school, and I can run it without X across a dialup link when I have to. Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | -- |The problem with computers: | || | rivendell[501] [~] love me | | bash: love: command not found | | rivendell[502] [~] hug me| | bash: hug: command not found | -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: JDK for Linux
Does anyone know what the story is with JDK? .According to my packages file, the stable debian packages is ver 1.0.2.. Sun recently released ver 1.2 (For Solaris/Windoze).. Is the package behind because Sun hasn't released any / any stable versions for linux beyond 1.0.2, or because the package hasn't been updated, or what? Thanx, Timothy Hi. First, regarding your question about netscape. Check out ftp://ftp.netscape.com for more recent versions. 4.0.x is available for quite some time already. As for JDK, JDK 1.1.3 is available as a debian package in hamm/non-free (It can be safely installed on your stable system). If you want to use both 1.0.2 and 1.1.3 simultaneously, I would recommend downloading 1.1.3 directly from http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html The latest stable release of JDK from Sun is 1.1.5 and it _is_ available for Linux at ftp://lagrange.la.asu.edu/pub/Linux_jdk/JDK-1.1.5/ This port is by a different person (Sergey Nikitin) than 1.1.3 and franckly, I would not recommend using it because it is compiled against glibc2 (libc6) while Motif libraries that are currently available are still libc5 based. And dependence on both libc5 and libc6 of the same binary is not a good idea. Yes, Sun released JDK 1.2 beta2 recently for Solaris and Windows. To start working on Linux port we need to have a source code of the release which is not available (yet). Previous Sun's practice shows that the source would be available only after full (not beta) release. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: can´t use FIPS on windows 95
On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 11:38:25AM -0800, Jesús Antonio Santgos Giraldo wrote: 1) There is no UMSDOS for debian isn´t it? That's correct. If you want to run Debian from an umsdos filesystem you have to install a basic system on an ext2 and then create the umsdos filesystem using their specific tools. After that you have to copy the basic system to the new filesystem and install loadlin and a linux kernel on the dos partition that contains the umsdos filesystem. 2) I bought my computer and it comes preinstalled with windows 95, so all of the hard disk is in one single partion. Reading the files that come with the debian distribution I read that I could use fips, but unfortunatly when I run it it stops with an error: that the partiosn is OBh or something... I suposse, as I read further, fips only can do partitions on msdos file systems, and I have a pure windows 95 FAT32... So the question is: How can I shrink my only one partition ! even if it is a windows 95 one. I was told that there is one program that may help you: Partition Magic. But it's a highly commercial program. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / /Erfahrung ist eine nützliche Sache / / Leider macht man sie immer erst kurz nachdem man sie brauchte / -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: can^ôt use FIPS on windows 95
2) I bought my computer and it comes preinstalled with windows 95, so all of the hard disk is in one single partion. Reading the files that come with the debian distribution I read that I could use fips, but unfortunatly when I run it it stops with an error: that the partiosn is OBh or something... I suposse, as I read further, fips only can do partitions on msdos file systems, and I have a pure windows 95 FAT32... So the question is: How can I shrink my only one partition ! even if it is a windows 95 one. I was told that there is one program that may help you: Partition Magic. But it's a highly commercial program. Another alternative is a newer version of FIPS. Go to http://www.dejanews.com and search for fat32 fips to get a pointer on where to download it. Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
