Re: global environment variables?

2001-12-02 Thread Erik Steffl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... However, in my case, I specifically WANT to set that global variable. For the curious, it's http_proxy and ftp_proxy that I want set - my ISP enforces use of a proxy server for http, and encourages it for ftp. Without this set, *anything* that tries to talk out on

Re: XMMS kills Gnome activity!

2001-12-06 Thread Erik Steffl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm having a problem with XMMS. I am using the version that comes with Debian 2.2.19pre17 ISO image 1. Whenever I am playing a song, I can't open windows, popup menus, etc. until I click STOP or the song ends. Once it ends, it performs all the tasks I tried to do

Re: exmh (tcl? sh?) quoting question.

2001-12-06 Thread Erik Steffl
Shaul Karl wrote: The following is an bad attempt to use exmh `Apply command to body' feature. However I believe it boils down to a tcl or a sh quoting question. What I am trying to do is to filter a message by applying a filter to its body. Now this filter sed -n s/Inst//p

Re: File Manager

2001-12-07 Thread Erik Steffl
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:58:23PM +0100, Arnout Bruinsma ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: L.S. I'm looking for a file manager for use under Window Maker. In SuSe I used xfm but I can't find an xfm Debian package. I hope somebody has a suggestion gmc isn't terribly

Re: File Manager

2001-12-07 Thread Erik Steffl
Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karsten M. Self wrote: gmc isn't terribly visually bletcherous, and doesn't suffer the bloat of Nautilus. Both suffer from the same inability to deal with floppy drives in a sane way, wrt mounting/umounting

Re: Something more user friendly than XMMS?

2001-12-07 Thread Erik Steffl
Preben Randhol wrote: DvB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/12/2001 (21:31) : xmms seems pretty user friendly to me... if you really want something else, though, you might check out linuxberg's listing: Yes for a power user, but not for newbies. One point is that XMMS uses a completely

Re: alsa snd module

2001-12-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Curtis Farnham wrote: ... When I run alsaconf, it gives the following additional messages after the above one: Setting the PCM volume to 100% and the Master output volume to 50% The ALSA sound driver was not detected in this system. Could not initialize the mixer, the card

Re: 8 character filenames on msdos floppy

2001-12-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Eric Smith wrote: How do I get unabridged filenames viz project_one.doc insead of projec~1.doc on floppies where files have been saved in windows. mount it as vfat (mount -t vfat)?

Re: 8 character filenames on msdos floppy

2001-12-11 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 11:26:07AM +0100, Eric Smith wrote: | oops - now I get this: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] 2 $ cp Samenwerkingsovereenkomst.doc /floppyls /floppy | projec~1.dot samenwer.doc samenw~1.doc | | | which I prefer to the ~1 type but

Re: Homework

2001-12-11 Thread Erik Steffl
tom schuetz wrote: * Nicolás Conde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: Hello. I don't mean to be rude with this, but i've noticed that few people do their homework before posting. I've seen some questions over and over again for which answers exist in the {manual pages | list

Re: Homework

2001-12-11 Thread Erik Steffl
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: * Nicolás Conde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: Hello. I don't mean to be rude with this, but i've noticed that few people do their homework before posting. I've seen some questions over and over again for which answers exist in the {manual pages | list

Re: get leds on after bootup. Newbie #61

2001-12-11 Thread Erik Steffl
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 12:28:53AM +0200, Ian Balchin wrote: To the point, why does debian switch off the numlock in the first place when it has been set on at bios level, and surely most people want it on anyway? That's not Debian-specific. The Linux kernel

Re: Programming man pages.

2001-12-12 Thread Erik Steffl
Ted Roden wrote: Hi everyone. I apologize for such a silly question. well, if you can't find an answer then it's not silly to ask... I can't seem to find which package contains the man pages for basic programming functions like stat and sprintf etc. I was thinking perhaps it is

Re: how to print dilbert comics

2001-12-12 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote: Sometimes I'd like to print a dilbert comic and share with someone who wouldn't go look on the web. Galeon does a good job of loading the image and displaying it on-screen, but when I print it comes out a little too wide and gets cut off on the right (us-letter paper). I can

Re: Error accessing cdrom device

2001-12-14 Thread Erik Steffl
Eric Brooks wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 12:47:10AM -0500, Justin R. Miller wrote: Did you re-login after doing that? No, I didn't. I'll try that. Thanks very much. it's enough to do su - yourself (if you're using X and don't want to restart it) erik

Re: VNC

2001-12-14 Thread Erik Steffl
Seth Delackner wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 12:07:43PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: Hi, It seems that as long as you don't kill the server, everything would be as what you left out. Interesting... It's kinda neat, I think. Next time you logged in to the remote host using the xvncviewer,

lame: which version?

2001-12-16 Thread Erik Steffl
since lame seems to be the best mp3 encoder and there's no .deb there's a question - which version to use? the 3.70 seems to be quite old but the newer one 3.89beta is, well, beta. Does anybody have experience with how good the beta is? I am mainly interested in sound quality, not speed (or

Re: Gnome fonts, squares -- no, not the usual ;)

2001-12-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Hi Hall! On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote: ... Don't appear to have 'xkeycaps' installed... If the part below doesn't help, I'll see about installing it. use xev, it's usually installed as part of basic x clients. erik

Re: Fw: Select/copy/paste using keyboard in X

2001-09-27 Thread Erik Steffl
Hall Stevenson wrote: Actually, I would like to be able to cut and paste, with or without mouse, in different applications running under KDE. For example, a line from KWord to a search box at an internet site up under Netscape. I can cut and paste from within KWord, and also from

Re: Fw: Select/copy/paste using keyboard in X

2001-09-28 Thread Erik Steffl
Joey Hess wrote: Hall Stevenson wrote: Actually, I would like to be able to cut and paste, with or without mouse, in different applications running under KDE. For example, a line from KWord to a search box at an internet site up under Netscape. I can cut and paste from

Re: Fw: Select/copy/paste using keyboard in X

2001-09-28 Thread Erik Steffl
Hall Stevenson wrote: snip I am not sure why some applications use different clipboards (buffers)... anybody has explanation? pointer to docs? How about this, http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html ?? thanks, that's good info. erik

Re: Debian review...

2001-09-29 Thread Erik Steffl
Jussi Ekholm wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 06:41:00AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: Bill McCarty's book on Debian (still online, free) is, IMHO, still the best guide for new users. Where can I find this book Quick (very quick) Google-search told me, several things, but not the location

procmail: Suspicious rcfile /home/erik/.procmailrc

2001-09-30 Thread Erik Steffl
I use uw-imapd-ssl, postfix and procmail to deliver email. I didn't do any system related changes (no config file changes, no apt-get fun) and suddenly my procmail filters don't work, all email is delivered into inbox and I get the message in subject in syslog, here's the relevant part:

Re: procmail: Suspicious rcfile /home/erik/.procmailrc

2001-09-30 Thread Erik Steffl
Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2001 01:43:16 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: [...] it used to have 664 permissions but I changed it to: -rw---1 erik erik 660 May 12 19:41 /home/erik/.procmailrc and it still complains! any ideas? TIA. Could

Re: list etiquette

2001-09-30 Thread Erik Steffl
Alex Hunsley wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 01:02:16PM +0100, Alex Hunsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Who runs the debian list? [EMAIL PROTECTED] I emailed the list owner address a little while ago and haven't received a response. What I

Re: list etiquette

2001-10-01 Thread Erik Steffl
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:51:04PM +0100, Alex Hunsley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: I read my email from several places, not all of which have a linux box handy (e.g. work). Is there a promail equivelent for windows? First choice: ssh

other data WAS: Re: /var and /usr Re: virtual hosting in apache and file locations

2001-10-02 Thread Erik Steffl
Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:27:49AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: i always wondered just why debian apache puts the main homepage of a server into /var/www. /var isn't made for stuff that's persistens like a homepage! in addition, where do virtual hosts go? in general,

aptitude basically unusable: what happened?

2001-10-04 Thread Erik Steffl
I used to use aptitude for most of the package manging activities, which mostly meant doing equivalent of apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade. lately (few month) the aptitude became completely usuable: package screen: I only see few packages in package tree, e.g. the Installed packages

Re: How to generate a random number?

2001-10-04 Thread Erik Steffl
Alan Shutko wrote: Jeffrey W. Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is an extraordinarily bad idea. Any person will be able to guess the sequence of random numbers simply by guessing the time at which your program was started. And the impact of this depends on what the program is

SPARC Station 5: how to find out what's the HW configuration?

2001-10-04 Thread Erik Steffl
I have a SPARC Station 5 with debian installed. It works fairly well, the problem is I have no info about the HW configuration (I got it on sort of garage sale from company going out of business (or moving, I am not sure which)). as of now it is working, but I would like to build a new kernel

Re: this list is like hotel california

2001-10-08 Thread Erik Steffl
Rino Mardo wrote: ...you can check in anytime you want, but you can never leave... i sent an unsubscribe to the listbot three days ago and up to now it hasn't acted on it. failing that i sent a request to the list maintainer and that too hasn't acted on it. is this hotel california?

Re: weird 100% disk usage

2001-10-08 Thread Erik Steffl
joey tsai wrote: Hi, My drive appears to be full via df: [corban][05:07pm][~] $ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 61M 59M 0 100% / However, I'm not exactly sure I'm even getting 57M used: [corban][05:09pm][/home/joeytsai] # du

evolution: funny folder structure (IMAP)

2001-10-09 Thread Erik Steffl
system: uw-imapd-ssl 2001rc1debian-1 evolution-ssl 0.14-2 debian unstable, kernel 2.4.10 when using netscape, I see the folders in ~/mail (which I set as top folder in netscape), here' how the directory looks: Drafts Sent Templates Trash in-l-alsa in-l-debian-devel

Re: 4 doubts on Kernel compilation (A dual boot Win-Lin Machine)

2001-10-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Steve Kowalik wrote: At 10:05 am, Tuesday, October 9 2001, Stephen Gran mumbled: p.s. - I'm told the debian way is much easier, but I've never used it, so others can tell you more. AHHA! The Debian Way! Basically, you can install a kernel-source .deb from apt, or download a tarball

Re: Takin' the plunge...

2001-10-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Royce Bell wrote: Okay, this is it. I'm about to take the plunge into Linux, but my experience with dumb terminal-based Unix is over 20 years old. In the interim, I've been on Windows; a sometimes happy, but always frustrating and infuriating marriage of convenience and

Re: kernel 2.4.10 and alsa

2001-10-10 Thread Erik Steffl
Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 02:46:17PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: Probably not. You'll be wanting alsa-source from unstable, which is at 0.9. The development version is quite nice compared to the stable one. The only thing that's keeping me back from

Re: Working with standards (was Re: Oops, forgot...)

2001-10-10 Thread Erik Steffl
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 03:28:42PM -0700, Ben Hartshorne wrote: And he does have a point. The anti-M$ sentiment has led to a number of comments on this list that, were I thinking of transitioning to Linux, would deter me from doing so because self-righteousness is

Re: Working with standards (was Re: Oops, forgot...)

2001-10-10 Thread Erik Steffl
Hall Stevenson wrote: ... This is kinda my point. If you haven't used an MS product in 'x' number of years, how do you know it's the fault of the MS program ?? Simply 'cause MS makes it ?? Because others who also haven't used that's actually a pretty good heuristics. (I use windows

Re: kernel 2.4.10 and alsa

2001-10-11 Thread Erik Steffl
Kevin C. Smith wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 08:33:26PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 02:46:17PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: Probably not. You'll be wanting alsa-source from unstable, which is at 0.9. The development version

Re: Working with standards (was Re: Oops, forgot...)

2001-10-11 Thread Erik Steffl
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 08:44:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 03:28:42PM -0700, Ben Hartshorne wrote: And he does have a point. The anti-M$ sentiment has led to a number of comments on this list that, were I thinking

ping: kernel is not very fresh (warning)

2001-10-12 Thread Erik Steffl
I just got the following warning: jojda:~ping azar PING azar (192.168.1.3) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. WARNING: kernel is not very fresh, upgrade is recommended. From 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable while I only compiled kernel few days ago, it couldn't go

Re: JPEG or GIF background in fvwm?

2001-10-13 Thread Erik Steffl
Marc Shapiro wrote: This is somewhat off-topic, but can anyone point me in the right direction to finding out how to use a .gif or .jpeg file as a desktop background in fvwm? I use chbg but you can use number of programs. it does not have to be related to window manager... (you can call

Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-14 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:47:23PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes: | On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote: [...] | | D-Link DFE-530TX+ | [...] | tulip [...] | NO NO See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139

Re: bzip2 brings ppp to its knees?

2001-10-14 Thread Erik Steffl
Martin Rowe wrote: On Saturday 13 October 2001 11:13 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, csj wrote: Anybody else had a similar experience? I can compile without my meager 56K connection stalling. But with a running bzip2 process ppp traffic becomes so abysmal

Re: Dillo (Web-Browser Recommendation)

2001-10-15 Thread Erik Steffl
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 08:53:33PM +0200, Jürgen A. Erhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi folks, I have seen the recurring threads about web-browsers, so I looked at Dillo again. (Have watched it on and off since the very first versions, then called gzilla).

Re: dual NICs, same brand or not?

2001-10-15 Thread Erik Steffl
Damon Muller wrote: Quoth Ron Farrer, I'm building a firewall out of an old 486 and was wondering if it was best to use two NICs of the same type/brand or to use different ones? Is there any gotchas for doing one over the other? I find that's it's easier to use two different cards (not

Re: Strange message from IMAP: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA

2001-10-16 Thread Erik Steffl
Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi, I remeber awhile ago I had the same problem. I not too sure, but I believe was initially running qpopper first, and then installed imap. Then that message started to appear. I removed qpopper and just ran imap. Everything is good now. I think I like imap better

Re: Skipstone has stopped working

2001-10-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Hans Steinraht wrote: Hi all, While using Skipstone it crashed. After that I can't get it to startup again. I did a apt-get remove --purge skipstone and mozilla-browser, followed with a new install, but the only what Skipstone says while starting it is a little spinning of my

Re: xmms queueing

2001-10-18 Thread Erik Steffl
Örjan Persson wrote: Petteri Heinonen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello. Does anybody know a way to make enqueue as a default action when adding files to xmms's playlist? I know the command line option --enqueue, but it seems to affect only if I add files from command line. I've made a

Re: Green blinking 'D' in console

2001-10-22 Thread Erik Steffl
wayne wrote: Hi Aaron, I run RedHat and I get the same thing. I don't have a solution for you. Wayne Aaron Maxwell wrote: Hi. I'm running yesterday's sid. In the console, occasionally a green blinking 'D' will appear at a certain position on the screen. When and where it

Re: ^S/scroll-lock in konsole

2001-10-22 Thread Erik Steffl
'cduck' Chris Grierson wrote: anyone know what signal ^S sends, and how to unfreeze a konsole when it gets pressed? on one of the system consoles (tty1-6; btw, what is the try ctrl-q erik

Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Erik Steffl
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: ... when woody becomes stable ... Or do I need to do some kind of reinstall? Nope. There have been Debian machines that have been updated for 5 years. In fact the joke among us Debian developers is that our installer is so bad because most of us only see it

Re: What happens when Woody becomes Stable ??

2001-10-24 Thread Erik Steffl
Justin Hahn wrote: Of course, the smoothest way to upgrade is to use dselect. Brian, Why this assertion? I thought dselect was on its way out... especially seeing as apt-get and aptitude are both much easier to deal with than dselect in the eyes of everyone I've ever talked to.

Re: gnucash dependencies in unstable

2001-10-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Jose Juan Iglesias wrote: Hi all! I've been trying to install gnucash package from ustable, version 1.6.1-4. dselect says that gnucash depends on libgal9 (= 0.10) and on libgtkhtml14 (= 0.11.1). And none seems to be available. looks like that's fixed (you might need to do update):

www-data sends email to itself (bad interpreter)

2001-10-28 Thread Erik Steffl
I have just found out that www-data sends emails to www-data. What's the point of that? nobody logs in as www-data and the emails are invisible. here's what the email says: /bin/sh: /usr/sbin/awstats-update: bad interpreter: Permission denied the bug was already filed for this problem but

Re: 512Meg of Ram

2001-10-28 Thread Erik Steffl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just added 512meg of ram to my Debian Woody box. I had heard that Linux does not support 512meg of ram without a kernel recompile. Is this true? I don't know but you can find out: run free (or top or cat /proc/meminfo or some other program that tells you how

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-30 Thread Erik Steffl
Michael Kaminsky wrote: I'm been using Mandrake for the past couple of years, and now I'm considering switching to Debian; but, I have some concerns. I consider myself a fairly experienced Linux user and use Linux for all my computing needs (devel, digital camera stuff, laptop stuff ,text

Re: changing to Debian from Mandrake

2001-10-31 Thread Erik Steffl
Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: ... ALSA is another package that is screwed up in unstable but you can blame ALSA developers for that, not Debian. also note that alsa itself is officially unstable, so it's expected to be broken from time to time (the alsa itself, not only debian alsa package). the

Re: IMAP...

2001-10-31 Thread Erik Steffl
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: ... If you want to encrypt your mail password, you can tunnel POP3 and/or IMAP over SSH and obtain end-to-end encryption that way. Happily the need to do that is a thing of the past. The UW and Courier imapds also support imaps (IMAP over SSL) natively. Because

Re: ISA AWE64 not detected

2001-11-01 Thread Erik Steffl
Donald R. Spoon wrote: Chris Keelan wrote: I have a Soundblaster AWE64 which was detected automatically by Mandrake. Now I'm running Woody and I can't get the card detected. pnpdump finds a bunch of listings but pnpprobe gives me no cards found. I've been through the mini-HOWTO,

Re: Foul language on debian lists (was Re: Spam impersonating me (was Re: Spam: the last straw))

2001-11-03 Thread Erik Steffl
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 08:57:42AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:52:13PM +0100, Jens Müller wrote: Hans Ekbrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Karsten is wrong here. There is a Code of Conduct section on

Re: Question about memory use in Linux

2001-11-03 Thread Erik Steffl
Aniartia (by way of Aniartia ) wrote: On Saturday 03 November 2001 18:52, David P James wrote: My Debian Woody box has 128Mb of RAM, and a 128Mb swap partition... ...I understand that linux uses essentially as much RAM as it can because it is there. Now, I opened up that colossal memory

Re: Broadcast 2000

2001-11-04 Thread Erik Steffl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to run Broadcast 2000 under a Debian system. I've attempted to convert an RPM of this app via Alien. However I hit a roadblock with reference to an item called libXv.so.1 Apparently this file is nonexistent. The

Re: ISA AWE64 not detected

2001-11-04 Thread Erik Steffl
Ron Golan wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:47:08PM -0600, Donald R. Spoon wrote: [...] 10. As root, open up /etc/modules with a text editor and add the following below what is already there: awe_wave opl3 [ note that is oh-pee-el three] I'm using a 2.4 kernel and I

Re: programming

2001-11-04 Thread Erik Steffl
martin f krafft wrote: * Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net [2001.11.04 10:56:49-0800]: char *buff = (char*)malloc(128); sizeof(buff) == 4 // on i32 machines -- problem! Depends on what buff is, its scope and how sizeof is used. which is why i declared it as a pointer to buffer

Re: IMAP security

2001-11-05 Thread Erik Steffl
Hanasaki JiJI wrote: Does cyrus have the all folders show up under INBOX problem as courier does with netscape and mozilla? Appearantly this is a result of the client not the server? If cyrus doesn't how do they get around it? Thanks yes it does but it is not considered problem (it's a

alsa: cannot stop (unload modules)

2001-11-06 Thread Erik Steffl
since certain time (months ago) the alsa modules cannot be unloaded, I tried /etc/alsa/stop and also directly using rmmod, nothing helps. If there is some process that has one of the sound devices open the alsa stop complains. However even after I close these programs alsa cannot be stopped -

Re: Do you use atari800 package?

2001-11-07 Thread Erik Steffl
Dale Scheetz wrote: I'm about ready to release the 1.0.7 version of the atari800 package, and I'd like some feedback from folks who are actually using the package. If you use this package, please take a look at the following issues and let me know how they impact your use: 1. The

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Jeff wrote: white male, 34, U.S. Californian, Data Network Engineering professional, BS in Info Mgt, user not a developer, married with child, ride offroad motorcycles on the weekend, play HalfLife/CS on occassion, kinda social, Christian, read sci-fi books, watch sci-fi video's, love

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Michael D. Schleif wrote: More and more, *nix developers are following the dark path of using whitespace in directory and filenames -- something which I've always detested, from an sa standpoint ; well, it's a valid character, why shouldn't it be there? IMO the situation where users are

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Michael D. Schleif wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: Michael D. Schleif wrote: More and more, *nix developers are following the dark path of using whitespace in directory and filenames -- something which I've always detested, from an sa standpoint ; well, it's a valid character

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Dimitri Maziuk wrote: * Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... generally, filename should be allowed to be basically any text. I see no reason to limit it (well, the general consesnsus among most of the unix(-like) implementations is that you cannot include '\0

Re: /etc/hosts strange

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Joel Franco Guzmán wrote: Hi guys, plz, i have troubles with the hosts file. it says: 127.0.0.1 thorlocalhost i think it is not correct, bcoz the thor name is not the loopback: it's a real ip. i had troubles mounting nfs filesystem by trying mount

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Wrong. There's a reason why people with half a clue don't put spaces in paths, and inadequacy of tools is not it. Unless your computer can read minds, it has no way of telling when the whitespace's supposed to be input separator, and when

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: ... Of course, if you want to admit that MacOS and Win32 can do something better than Unix can -- which is the obvious implication of a lot of what you've said on this subject --, be my guest. ? how could that be? what's the difference (ms-mac-unix)? the only difference

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-20 Thread Erik Steffl
Michael D. Schleif wrote: Craig Dickson wrote: ... the least if the filesystem simply didn't accept them. But spaces are meaningful to people, and should be allowed and properly supported by the shell and other standard tools. Yes, I can understand reasons to want to use whitespace in

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-20 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: Of course, if you want to admit that MacOS and Win32 can do something better than Unix can -- which is the obvious implication of a lot of what you've said on this subject --, be my guest. ? how could that be? what's the difference (ms

Re: How to handle whitespace in filenames ???

2001-12-20 Thread Erik Steffl
Ken Irving wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:46:41PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: ... let's note that it's mostly the shell, basically all other tools handle any characters properly (not talking about shell scripts, those all depend on how careful the author was). The only reason

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-21 Thread Erik Steffl
Phillip Deackes wrote: ... comformity within X and how silly things like copying and pasting works between most apps but not others, or how I can't get the Euro symbol did you try xcutsel? erik

usb driver fpr personal jukebox (pjb-100) doesn't work

2001-12-22 Thread Erik Steffl
I've read what I've found on usb, reviewedfixed my settings, tried various version of cpqpjb driver and I still get exactly the same results - the driver registers but that's it, it doesn't even probe for devices. I have reports that the same driver works with 2.4.14 for other people. Here are

sort-of-rfc: fvwm and auto-raise (on mouse focus)

2001-12-23 Thread Erik Steffl
the standard debian menu for fvwm contains item for FvwmAuto that does auto-raise of window that receives focus. Unfortunately the current menu entry is IMO basically unusable, I was wondering what others think (to see whether I should file a wishlist bug or just ignore it). here's the

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-24 Thread Erik Steffl
Brian Nelson wrote: martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: also sprach Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001.12.24.0101 +0100]: Sure, and someone else can answer them. Besides, when's the last time a question was asked by a Microsoft mailer user or an html poster that couldn't

Re: Where do you RTFM ?

2001-12-25 Thread Erik Steffl
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 03:54:36AM -0200, Christoph Simon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ... One of the declared aims of info is to provide a frame to write introductions or tutorials which wouldn't fit well into a man page, because that is limited to a reference

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-25 Thread Erik Steffl
Phillip Deackes wrote: On 24 Dec 2001 17:44:44 -0500 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but when a business chooses degenerate mail and forces everyone to use it, I'd be pretty suspicious of high-level idiocy within the business. I did not write that, it was written

Re: What's a debian kid look like?

2001-12-25 Thread Erik Steffl
Phillip Deackes wrote: On Tue, 25 Dec 2001 14:21:27 -0800 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip Deackes wrote: On 24 Dec 2001 17:44:44 -0500 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, but when a business chooses degenerate mail and forces everyone to use

Re: Where do you RTFM ?

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Karsten M. Self wrote: ... The problem isn't just vi, though. _Most_ Unix commands are based on mnemonic, consonant-heavy, abbreviations: ls, cd, rm, mv, ll, who, vi, ps, mutt, df Most of these are balanced between left and right hands, leading to good natural rhythems, many are based

Re: Debian issue's and problems

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i came to try Debian because i have heard soo many good things about this distro. Well i have come to find that it is FALSE! r. Potato is the most broken release i have ever seen the most simple packages are broken all to hell. I get this when startx X

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
imo it's very useful to have the eamil deliverystorage separate from email clients. from this point of view the ideal situation is to use IMAP, server side filtering (like sieve with cyrus) and let them use any clients they want... not sure how to get there from exchange, does exchange

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Brian Nelson wrote: ... Sylpheed is supposed to be a nice GUI mailer, though I haven't tried it. Evolution is supposedly out of beta, though I wouldn't be surprised if it crashed a lot, as you mentioned. KMail has weak IMAP support. Mozilla Mail is still too buggy, as is Balsa. Netscape

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Lev Lvovsky wrote: On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: imo it's very useful to have the eamil deliverystorage separate from email clients. from this point of view the ideal situation is to use IMAP, server side filtering (like sieve with cyrus) and let them use any clients

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
David Z Maze wrote: Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ES what's this netscpae 4.x bashing I see repeatedly? IMO it's a fairly ES good email client, stable (well, as stable as browser and it's really ES only stable when you disable java), has the main MUA features... Issues

Re: Where do you RTFM ?

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote: ... info2vim converter then I could be happy :-). If you don't already know : vim allows for hyper-links (start with :help) that can be followed with ^] and ^T takes you back where you were before. and for those who really didn't know: you can 'hyperlink' your code (at least c,

Re: easter eggs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
martin f krafft wrote: i am installing a debian system for my brother, and i need to pack it with easter eggs and weirdities to the brim. any hints? ;) yes, this is satire. you need sl, you don't want to waste mistyped ls erik

Re: Threading Mail

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 04:21:53PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: | Not true! I switched from mutt to gnus. It's IMAP support was too weak | for me, IMAP in mutt is actually somewhat controversial. The author doesn't really like it (mutt is _just_ a MUA), but there would be

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: IMO the MUA should not handle storage of email, so this is a non an issue:-) [the real causality goes in the other way] Well, the MUA should not have to worry about retrieval from POP servers. That's fetchmail's job. But certainly the MUA

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: Lev Lvovsky wrote: why the insistence on fetchmail? ... Also, with fetchmail, you don't have to bother telling your mail client about your POP or IMAP server -- it's one less thing to configure if you provided that you want to download emails from IMAP which is not

Re: Threading Mail

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 05:23:49PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: | dman wrote: | | On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 04:21:53PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: | | | Not true! I switched from mutt to gnus. It's IMAP support was too weak | | for me, | | IMAP in mutt is actually

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-26 Thread Erik Steffl
Carel Fellinger wrote: On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 05:32:31PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: Craig Dickson wrote: ... I guess, I still like to see it all at once... I guess I can open few windows, each with it's own view:-) BTW the other annoying thing is that it requires password to IMAP

Re: Threading Mail

2001-12-27 Thread Erik Steffl
John Hasler wrote: erik writes: email storage - where the email is stored. traditionaly this is just files, mostly mbox or maildir. that's what is replaced by IMAP. that way you have no email in /var/spool/mail/username or ~/mbox or wherever your email currently is, the email is stored

Re: Email client programs

2001-12-27 Thread Erik Steffl
Craig Dickson wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: Also, with fetchmail, you don't have to bother telling your mail client about your POP or IMAP server -- it's one less thing to configure if you provided that you want to download emails from IMAP which is not a very good way to use IMAP

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