Re: [GNOME 2]
Thus spake Christian Marillat on Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 03:21:33PM +0200: SEE == STOJICEVIC Edi EXPSIA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: J'ai installé Gnome 2 cette nuit :) mais j'ai été un peu dérouté par le gnome-control-center qui ne permet plus (ou alors je n'ai pas trouvé) la gestion de plusieurs gestionnaire d'affichage ... J'ai sawfish et metacity d'installés mais il utilise par défaut metacity... D'où ma question, quel(s) est/sont les fichiers à paramétrer pour indiquer le gestionnaire de fenêtres que l'on désire ? je l'ai fait avec update-alternatives --config x-window-manager. Pas très subtil, mais efficace. :) Je n'ai pas le centre de contrôle 2 installé, mais il me semble qu'il y a une icône qui permet de définir les programmes de la session. On ne peut pas en rajouter, ni les modifier. Uniquement les supprimer ou changer leur ordre de lancement. HTH, Romain ps: ne pas oublier le export GDK_USE_XFT=1 avant de lancer la session pour avoir l'anticrenelage sur les applications Gtk2. -- Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: if you're alive, it isn't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RFC] Newbiedoc: setting up new hardware devices
Greetings, I've worked for quite some time on a guide on how to install/configure new hardware. (highly x86-centric) http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tutorials/hardware/index-hardware.html The aim of this doc would be to help somebody who's familiar with the basics of Linuxing configure some not-too-exotic device for Linux. (like a sound card, for example). I would gladly accept any help (on the section about PnP and non-PnP, mostly, I think) and proof-reading. This doc would probably complement nicely Jesse's doc on kernel compiling. Thanks, Romain, who has been stuck on that one for too long... -- That's odd. That's very odd. Wouldn't you say that's very odd?
Re: Total lockups using ext3
Thus spake Anthony Campbell on Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 10:20:17AM +: After weeks of frustration, I've finally settled that the frequent lockups I've been getting when on-line with 2.4 series kernels is due to enabling ext3. If I turn this off in fstab the lockups don't occur. Has anyone else seen this? Yes, I have had lockups too. Config is 2.4.17 +ext3 +preempt patch +lock-break_patch I don't know which of these is causing ext3 to fail, but since it's all alpha stuff, I can't complain. Switching back to ext2 solved most problems. HELP NEEDED However, it would seem that my root partition is still mounted as ext3, though it's specified as ext2 in /etc/fstab: dmesg: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. But 'mount' show / as being 'ext2'. And I still have lockups, though less frequent than before, when I was 100% ext3. / The other partitions seem to be mounted as vanilla ext2, and don't seem to fail. I also have problems with SysRq+S not syncing. I'll rollback the patches, and stay on ext2 for the time being... :) HTH, Romain -- Youth is a disease from which we all recover. -- Dorothy Fuldheim
Re: Total lockups using ext3
Thus spake Eduard Bloch on Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 03:38:54PM +0100: Romain Lerallut wrote on Mon Feb 04, 2002 um 01:23:33PM: However, it would seem that my root partition is still mounted as ext3, though it's specified as ext2 in /etc/fstab: dmesg: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly. So your filesystem still has a journal and the journal flag set. But 'mount' show / as being 'ext2'. And I still have lockups, though less frequent than before, when I was 100% ext3. Don't believe mount when looking for / state, better check /proc/mounts Ah ha! cat /proc/mounts: /dev/root / ext3 rw 0 0 Well I guess I just crossed the path of bug #127810. Thanks also to Andrew and caphuso on #debian for how to remove the journal (I'll read some more man tune2fs :) BBL, Romain -- Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write. -- Trollope
[bruit] Re: apt et gestion des paquets
Thus spake Laurent Martelli on Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 11:12:31AM +0100: Ou pourquoi pas avec NNTP ? Pour chaque nouvelle version de paquet il y aurait un message pour l'annoncer (avec le changelog). Comme NNTP est prévu pour n'envoyer que les derniers messages non rapatriés par le client, ça devrait être efficace au niveau de la bande passante. Et puis on pourrait même l'utiliser avec un client de News normal pour se tenir au courant des nouvelles versions. Et je suis sûr qu'avec 10 lignes de lisp je pourrais demander à Gnus de m'installer les paquets que je veux :-) C'est une bonne idée. blague Et puis on pourrait inclure un contrôle ActiveX(r) qui parlerait à apt-get de manière transparente ! / Romain, qui a eu un début de semaine difficile... :) -- Show me a man who is a good loser and I'll show you a man who is playing golf with his boss.
Re: Un Gui pour les package Debain ?
Thus spake Dabowl on Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 01:19:14PM +0100: Bonjour tout le monde, Je suis à la recherche d'une appli graphique permettant de gérer les packages debian. kpackage Je n'utilise pas, donc je ne connais pas la stabilité, ni la puissance. Mais ça gère les .debs (et les .rpm d'ailleurs). HTH, Romain -- An entire fraternity of strapping Wall-Street-bound youth. Hell - this is going to be a blood bath! -- Post Bros. Comics
Festival: volume broken again ?
Hello, I use festival 1.4.2-2 , and I have a problem with volume. It's waay too low. The fixes I found in the BTS and the website FAQ don't seem to work: $ cat /etc/festival.scm (set! default_after_synth_hooks (list (lambda (utt) (utt.wave.rescale utt 1.5 t $ file /usr/lib/festival/siteinit.scm /usr/lib/festival/siteinit.scm: symbolic link to /etc/festival.scm Before I file a bugreport, I'd still like to know if somebody has managed to get festival to scream :) -- Hey, if pi == 3, and three == 0, does that make pi == 0? :-) -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet like
Thus spake MadCoder on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:12:37AM +0100: t'as pas cherché bien loin toi ... ssh ? ssf ? Notons que la solution la plus immédiate au problème proche de telnet, utilisant SSL est: telnet-ssl ! :) D'ailleurs, puisqu'on en parle, quelle est la différence de sécurité entre ssh et telnet-ssl ? ( à part le cas où on retombe en telnet normal) -- wichert solaris is bsd, so it should work * Espy takes wichert's crack pipe away
Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial
Thus spake Jesse Goerz on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:35:44PM -0500: I just wrote a beginner's vim tutorial over at http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html This is also full of good stuff, perhaps you could steal some of their tips ? http://vim.sourceforge.net/tips/ ...Can you imagine how many keystrokes could have been saved, if I only had known the * command in time? - Juergen Salk, 1/19/2001 Who here knows what the * command do ??? Well I didn't and I wish I did ! :) HTH, Romain -- The question of whether computers can think is just like the question of whether submarines can swim. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra
Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial
Thus spake martin f krafft on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 05:25:11PM +0100: also sprach Romain Lerallut [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.14.1718 +0100]: Who here knows what the * command do ??? Well I didn't and I wish I did ! :) everything? it's a wildcard to encapsulate all commands in one! ;^ Nope, and it's not a bullsh^W activity report generator either. Pressing '*' will do a search on the word the cursor is currently over -- A man may sometimes be forgiven the kiss to which he is not entitled, but never the kiss he has not the initiative to claim.
Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial
Thus spake Lonnie Mullenix on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:42:46PM -0600: Only thing I would add is that it would be really nice to be able to get this to print properly. Do you mean you can't print the HTML properly (old news... :), or that you can't print the PostScript docs ? I broke my Debian box yesterday playing around with a couple of testing/unstable packages, so I'm stuck on this NT box for a few days. Have a Winprinter too, so that is a pita, but I'll live with for the time being. So, printable would be good. The printable version has always been not-quite-as-good as the HTML version. That's a fact. I'm working on switching to XML, so if FO is more customizable than dsssl, we might improve things a bit. The bad thing is that the tarballs on the website are *really* old, and last time I checked (Friday) DocBook's dsssl and JadeTeX were playing games, so I couldn't get any ps, dvi, rtf,... output. Can't build a Debian package, and can't build a printable tarball... :-( However your suggestion is a good one, and we'll add a 'Printable Version' column as soon as this mess is sorted out. BTW, does everyone agree that PDF would be a better choice for an online printable version ? (Knowing that a number of people will print this on disreputable systems that have no postscript support :) (Though I intend to keep postscript for the .deb) Bye, Romain -- There is a 20% chance of tomorrow.
Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial
Thus spake dman on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 04:28:57PM -0500: On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:50:38PM +0100, Romain Lerallut wrote: | The printable version has always been not-quite-as-good as the | HTML version. That's a fact. I'm working on switching to XML, so | if FO is more customizable than dsssl, we might improve things a | bit. What's FO? Have you (or do you want to) try LaTeX? I've had good results with LaTeX (even with my limited knowledge) as long as I followed it's guide and didn't try to forcibly locate things on the page. FO is Formatting Object. It is an XML document specifically designed to be translated into printer-friendly formats. Docbook (whether in SGML or XML) makes it possible to write a document that can be compiled into *nice-looking* HTML, and besides it is *much* easier to write than LaTeX. With a DocBook XML file, we have: XML --[XSLT]-- HTML XML --[XSLT]-- FO --[FO processor]-- ps,pdf (see http://xml.apache.org/fop for a FO processor) Sometimes FO-ps,pdf is really FO-TeX-ps,pdf, though not with Apache's FOP (IIRC). I've managed to almost duplicate the HTML we get from our old SGML files with some testbed XML files, however I've not succeeded yet in getting a printable format out of an XML file. | BTW, does everyone agree that PDF would be a better choice for | an online printable version ? (Knowing that a number of people will | print this on disreputable systems that have no postscript support :) | (Though I intend to keep postscript for the .deb) PDF is better for those sytems, PS is generally better for the rest, systems using CUPS can deal with both equally well. Besides, I think all the PDFs I've seen generated with tools like ps2pdf work find in ghostscript/gv/gnome-gv. Ah , that's _good_ to know. I was afraid people would be forced to use non-free stuff, like acroread.
Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial
Thus spake Lonnie Mullenix on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 04:08:21PM -0600: On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:50:38 +0100 Romain Lerallut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus spake Lonnie Mullenix on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 08:42:46PM -0600: Only thing I would add is that it would be really nice to be able to get this to print properly. ... The combination of my NT box and winprinter are most likely the problem, and since I haven't gotten Samba working yet! I'vwe always had problems printing out some of the HTML info, wnats to cut the ends of the lines off and cut the last line or two at the bottom of the page off. ... May I suggest using rtf also. Ah ok. I just wanted to make sure. Well, why not rtf too, it's a common backend for most translators be they XML or SGML based. We'll run out of room on the main page though. (Bullets for the render on-the-fly department. :) -- Somebody ought to cross ball point pens with coat hangers so that the pens will multiply instead of disappear.
Re: expertise compilation C bienvenue
Thus spake Georges Mariano on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:48:15PM +0100: On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 19:59:25 +0100 Romain Lerallut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Je ne retrouve pas mon manuel de automake/autoconf, mais je vais le chercher ! Si tu peux poster ton configure.in, ça aiderait. Je ne crois pas, la différence ne peux pas être due à qqchose de statique puisque ce sont les mêmes fichiers qui sont utilisés de part et d'autre. (sauf fichiers générés) Ce que je voulais dire c'est que si on cherche spécifiquement deux fonctions qui se trouvent dans la même librairie, on aura deux -llibrairie: citation Macro: AC_SEARCH_LIBS (function, search-libs[, action-if-found [, action-if-not-found]]) This macro is equivalent to calling AC_TRY_LINK_FUNC once for each library listed in search-libs. Add `-llibrary' to LIBS for the first library found to contain function, and execute action-if-found. Otherwise execute action-if-not-found. /citation (google fecit: http://sources.redhat.com/autoconf/autoconf.html) D'où les deux librairies. Ensuite, il suffit qu'une fonction ait bougé d'une librairie dans une autre entre woody et potato pour avoir les trois -llibrairie répétés. Ce n'est pas la seule explication, mais de loin c'est celle que je propose. A+ Romain -- Slurm, n.: The slime that accumulates on the underside of a soap bar when it sits in the dish too long. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets
Re: Outil de vérification physique de la surface d'un disque dur
Thus spake Charles Goyard on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 10:13:40AM +0100: Hi * je cherche un outil de vérification physique de la surface d'un disque dur (SCSI). fsck ne semble pas faire ce genre de test. Si vous connaissez ce genre de truc... badblocks dans e2fsprogs ? HTH, Romain PS: c'est debian-user-frenchet plus debian-french :) -- If you would keep a secret from an enemy, tell it not to a friend.
Re: debian-french et debian-user-french
Thus spake Georges Mariano on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:29:00PM +0100: On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:27:26 + Simon Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Au fait cette liste a les deux l'un an alias pour l'autre comme nous a dit Raphael Hertzog le 16 août. Debian-french est _morte_ (vive D-F :), mais par correction vis-à-vis de ses utilisateurs un alias est fourni, pour faciliter la transition. J'ai vu au moins deux messages où quelqu'un a demandé pourquoi ce n'était pas sur debian-user-french et je ne comprends pas pourquoi ça gène quelqu'un? gène est un bien grand mot ... disons désagrément. pourquoi? : sans doute une histoire de filtre à modifier ;-) non, le filtre passe bien parce qu'il suit X-Mailing-List, que lists.debian.org convertit correctement. Par contre mutt suit le champ To: du message originel, donc si j'appuie sur L pour renvoyer un message à la liste, il me répond 'aucune liste trouvée'. C'est dramatique, on le pense bien :) !! les messages qui ne respectent pas un filtre trop strict se retrouvent pas à l'endroit souhaités ... pas si graaff quand mêmeuuu... C'est juste un détail qui est si facile à changer et qui évite 1. des erreurs d'archivage 2. des interrogations si l'alias est retiré Mais y a pas de quoi en faire un fromage non plus, je suis bien d'accord. -- There are ten or twenty basic truths, and life is the process of discovering them over and over and over. -- David Nichols
Re: debian-french et debian-user-french
Thus spake Simon Huggins on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:37:35PM +: On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:18:00PM +0100, Romain Lerallut wrote: Debian-french est _morte_ (vive D-F :), Je dois avoir une autre signification du mot mort que le tien. C'est possible, en attendant: (http://lists.debian.org/users.html) debian-french: debian-user in French [dead list, see debian-user-french] (ou pour parler usenet TMBSSNMOTW morte OWIWNPA) ?? mais par correction vis-à-vis de ses utilisateurs un alias est fourni, pour faciliter la transition. Est-ce qu'il va disparaître un jour? pas forcément, mais vu que le nom principal est -user-french, cela mæ parait être plus cohérent d'utiliser le nom correct qu'un alias. subscribe debian-user-french@lists.debian.org debian-french@lists.debian.org dans ton .muttrc (ou lists si tu utilises toujours la version 1.2.x) et puis tout va bien. C'est effectivement ce que j'ai fait. -- Certainly there are things in life that money can't buy, But it's very funny -- did you ever try buying them without money? -- Ogden Nash
Re: [HS]Re: debian-french et debian-user-french
Thus spake Marc REYNES on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 02:31:56PM +0100: Debian-french est _morte_ (vive D-F :), mais par correction vis-à-vis de ses utilisateurs un alias est fourni, pour faciliter la transition. Tant qu'on en est à chippoter sur les headers =) pourquoi le reply-to:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org n'est pas positionné ? http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html -- Yevtushenko has... an ego that can crack crystal at a distance of twenty feet. -- John Cheever
Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial
Thus spake dman on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:49:54PM -0500: Is this a complete rewrite of Romain's Vi Intro to be vim-specific? Quite a while back I sent Romain a patch to his document to correct a couple of typos and add some comments regarding vim's differences from other vi-clones (and 'vi' itself, if you so choose). I think I still have that patch laying around if you want to look at it. Blast it ! I had completely forgotten your patch ! D-Man, I'm so sorry ! I'll apply it within the hour -- Dealing with failure is easy: Work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: You've solved the wrong problem. Work hard to improve.
Re: expertise compilation C bienvenue
Thus spake Georges Mariano on Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 06:08:29PM +0100: Bonsoir, voilà, une petite(?) colle : dans mes nombreuses recompilation j'ai des lignes de types suivants : 1 - gcc /tas de machinsA/ -ldl -ldl /re-tas de machinsB/ 2 - gcc /tas de machinsA/ -ldl -ldl -ldl /re-tas de machinsB/ pourquoi 2 fois -ldl dans le type 1 mais 3 fois dans le type 2, sachant que la seule chose qui différencie les lignes 1 et 2 c'est que 1 - compilation potato 2 - compilation woody (le système de fichier est partagé par les machines potato et woody) autre formulation : dans la chaine de compilation d'une appli (autoconf, configure, cpp, gcc cie), à qui revient la responsabilité de générer ces options ? Si je me souviens bien, automake et autoconf génèrent configure (le script), à partir de configure.in qui lui génère Makefile à partir de Makefile.in Le configure.in peut donner des indications, y a-t-il plusieurs tests de la même librairie ? Les tests ressemblent à des trucs comme ça: AC_CHECK_LIB(z,gzopen,,AC_MSG_ERROR(library libz not found)) AC_SEARCH_LIBS(dlopen,dl,,AC_MSG_ERROR(library dl not found)) Je suppose que des tests du type cherche moi dans les librairies que voici celle qui contient la fonction machin devraient pouvoir expliquer plusieurs instances de la même librairie. Je ne retrouve pas mon manuel de automake/autoconf, mais je vais le chercher ! Si tu peux poster ton configure.in, ça aiderait. Bon courage, Romain PS: à propos, c'est -user-french et plus -french :) -- manic-depressive, adj.: Easy glum, easy glow.
Re: Kernels - The Debian Way
Thus spake Keith O'Connell on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 07:34:08AM +: Yes you did, and that was the post that sent me (as a newbie) into dselect looking for newbiedoc but it isn't there. Some of the followup posts make me see that is must be part of woody or sid. Therein lies the problem. As a newbie I am learning on potato, but the docs I need are in woody, If I could run woody reliably, I probably wouldn't need the document - Catch22 That was why I was asking for a source elsewhere Keith Sorry for a late answer, but you can always get doc out of woody, you just have to do it a la RedHat: ftp the package and dpkg -i it. Most of the doc packages don't have dependencies other than 'suggests: www-browser' and the likes, which shouldn't be a problem. Check it out on packages.debian.org. Happy new year linuxing, Romain -- Life -- Love It or Leave It.
Re: Navigateur Internet (bis)
Thus spake Régis Grison on Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 10:05:15AM +0100: Hello, Quand j'ai besoin de regarder mon compte en banque sur internet, je ne peux le faire pour le moment que sous windows. Le site supporte explorer et netscape (4.7 et 6.1). http://www.catelnet.credit-agricole.fr/banque/tourainepoitou.asp Moi j'ai un formulaire de login qui s'affiche, mais dans une seconde fenêtre. C'est pas très joli, mais ça marche. J'aurais besoin de ton numéro de compte et password pour tester plus à fond. :-) Konqueror 2.2.2-8, avec java j2sdk1.3 (Blackdown) Mais évidemment, la suite de tests ne marche pas (Netscape 4.7 sur plateforme inconnue, bah tiens !). Deuxième chose : J'utilise netscape 6.1 pour mon mail (je surfe avec opera qui est bien plus rapide) parce que je veux utiliser mon mail indifférement sous linux (le plus fréquent) et windows (plus quand je veux jouer). Ma question : j'ai eu plusieurs fois mes mails perdus parce qu'il n'arrivait plus à lire le fichier qui les contient et qu'il n'affichait plus rien ou les mélangeait. Est-ce que quelqu'un a eu la même expérience (voire une solution) ? Est-ce que quelqu'un a une alternative (permettant le partage entre les deux OS) ? Je crois qu'une copie complète des fichiers est possible. Du moins j'ai réussi à passer une archive mail de N6.1 à moz0.9.4 (je crois). Donc éventuellement avec un petit rsync pour ajuster le tout, et rsyncer au démarrage et à l'arret. C'est sale, mais ça marchera peut-être... -- Why are there always boycotts? Shouldn't there be girlcotts too? -- argon on #Linux
Re: Nouveau
Thus spake Georges Mariano on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 09:45:48AM +0100: On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:04:20 +0100 Patrice Karatchentzeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Premièrement, tu postes en texte seulement. Inutile d'alourdir un message avec du galimatia de HTML... tsss, tsss, lecture ô combien intéressante qui va en surprendre plus d'un ici ... http://www.cru.fr/messagerie/dumimedansleslistes.html ... Hérésie ! Blasphème ! On en a brulés pour moins que ça ! (euh, désolé je viens de voir Jeanne d'Arc :) PS2 : perso, avec sylpheed, j'avais même pas remarqué que le message du nouveau était en html ... un bon point pour sylpheed. Mutt s'en sort très bien, il fait un lynx -dump. Et urlview me permet de lancer un navigateur sur les URL, qui sont joliment colorées en violet (il me semble), emy compris dans les mails en mode texte./em Allez je mords à l'hameçon: un message demandant 1 seconde de chargement en text/plain ne demande certainement pas plus de 2 ou 3 secondes s?il est codé en text/html Je reçois 300+ mails par 24h, et je compte augmenter cela. Ça fait un volume raisonnable, mais si on peut éviter de le multiplier par 3 ce serait pas mal, au fond. Et je sais que je suis (très) loin de battre un record. Il faut distinguer l?emploi de formats propriétaires et l?emploi d?attachements. Ces petits '?' ne seraient-ils pas liés à l'emploi d'un charset propriétaire, justement ? :) Il est maintenant difficile de trouver un outil de messagerie qui ne supporte par le text/html apt-cache search mail-reader Bon, maintenant, allez voir la tête du code HTML de la page, et pleurez: ul type=disc li style='text-align:justify; ' span style='font-size:10.0pt;' «ne pas reprendre intégralement un mail de 100 lignes pour y ajouter «nbsp;je suis d#8217;accordnbsp;», /span /li (l'indentation est de moi.) Je prends juste ça comme un exemple de HTML autogénéré, et il n'est pas trop dramatique, d'ailleurs. (on a vu nettement, nettement pire) Maintenant comparez: * ne pas reprendre intégralement un mail de 100 lignes pour y ajouter je suis d'accord Maintenant je crois rêver: L?alternative souvent proposée est de déposer sur un site web les documents et de ne diffuser que leur URL. mais il la juge inutile. Donc diffusons tout en document attaché ! Et cotisons-nous pour offrir à Debian des nouveaux serveurs mails, et un gros gros tube... Je pense que ce document n'est pas approprié pour des listes à traffic important et à grand nombre d'abonnés. -- I'll rob that rich person and give it to some poor deserving slob. That will *prove* I'm Robin Hood. -- Daffy Duck, Looney Tunes, _Robin Hood Daffy_
Re: HTML sur une liste (était: Nouveau)
Thus spake Patrice Karatchentzeff on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:15:59AM +0100: T'énerve pas Georges. Le seul argument réellement contre le HTML est la lourdeur. C'est tout. Moi aussi je rapatrie entre 300 et 500 courriels par jours (sans compter les niouzes). Si je multiplie par deux ou trois le poids des messages rien que pour faire joli, j'abandonne : je ne suis pas actionnaire de FT et je n'aurai jamais l'ADSL dans mes montagnes... Remarquons que: traffic normal en texte + bruit en texte sur HTML est à peu près égal à: traffic normal en HTML :) Et puis au fond, tant qu'on échappe au Flash, moi je suis content. A+ Romain -- Binary, adj.: Possessing the ability to have friends of both sexes.
Re: C'est moi
Thus spake ITO on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:34:27AM +0100: Salut à tous, Bon, étant donné que je suis concerné par la dizaine de message qui est arrivée. Il faut pas, tous les de temps en temps il y a une petite flame war, c'est pas méchant et on en tire parfois plein d'infos. De toute façon ils finissent tous par Bienvenue, non? ... Et pour répondre à Jean-Philippe Georget, je ne sais pas, après ce nouvel e-mail sans question dedans, si je vais revenir. Je vais peut-être installer une autre distrib. Ce serait dommage de jeter la distrib avec l'eau du bain ! Les ML Debian sont une formidable source d'informations à condition de respecter deux choses: 1. suivre les règles de formattage de mail 2. ne pas poser des questions dans la FAQ Mais à part ça, les questions et problèmes originaux sont vraiment les bienvenus. En cadeau de bienvenue, reçois gratuitement ces liens: http://freesoftware.fsf.org/download/debfr-faq/html/index.html http://lists.debian.org/search.html http://www.linuxdoc.org (section HOWTO) A+ Romain -- To be or not to be, that is the bottom line.
Re: LILO
Thus spake yoann on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 02:09:32PM +0100: Bonjour, Bonjour, puisqu'on fait des mises à l'heure en ce moment: 1. ce serait pas mal de couper tes lignes à autour de 70 caractères (je sais plus quelle est la valeur admise, 72 ?) 2. également de poster une nouvelle question *sans* répondre à une ancienne, car sinon elle arrive tout en bas d'un fil fumant (surtout celui là :), au lieu de repartir à neuf. j'ai installer pour la premiere fois la potato, c'est assez simple mais en attendant d'installer tout ce dont j'ai besoin ,je prefere prendre mon temps et faire etape par etape, ... donc il faut qu'appartir du lilo de la debian je puisse demarer sur la mandrake alors qi quelqu'un a une idee je crois que LILO doit pouvoir trouver tout seul l'image. Donc un petit image=/partition_mandrake/boot/vmlinuz label=Mandrake root=/dev/hdc2 # ou bien est-ce juste root=/dev/hdc2 sans le append et # les ?? read-only dans /etc/lilo.conf (où /partition_mandrake/boot/vmlinuz est le chemin de ton noyau mdk lorsque tu es sous Debian...) devrait sans doute marcher. man lilo.conf est ton ami. A+ Romain -- What good is an obscenity trial except to popularize literature? -- Nero Wolfe, The League of Frightened Men
Re: Navigateur Internet sous Debian
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 08:07:45PM +: Bonsoir à tous, Je viens d'installer Internet sous Debian Potato en utilisant sudo Je suis déçu du rendu graphique du navigateur Mozilla La version de potato de Mozilla est *vraiment* vieille. Il y a des backports de moz récent (cf archives de la liste de ce jour (ah non, c'est hier depuis 25min :)) disponibles de manière informelle. Ça devrait améliorer les choses. Quel navigateur internet utilisez-vous ? Personnellement, j'utilise Konqueror, mais sans le reste de KDE, mais la dernière version de moz a incorporé beaucoup de fonctionnalités qui me plaisent beaucoup chez K. J'ai tenté d'installer Netscape Navigator 6.1 mais il y a un problème de librairie à l'installation. C'est possible que les librairies nécessaires dans potato soient trop vieilles. C'est possible aussi qu'un bête lien symbolique soit suffisant. Il faudrait le message d'erreur exact pour savoir. Bonsoir, Romain -- Life without caffeine is stimulating enough. -- Sanka Ad
Re: Navigateur Internet sous Debian
Thus spake oualmakran youssef on Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 12:16:34AM +0100: Animations flash : Veux-tu vraiment les voir? Parce que généralement ce sont des pubs, qui ralentissent l'affichage. il y a aussi des sites qui s'en servent pour la navigation. (heureusement il y en a peu que je consulte, mais bon...) Pense à installer «junkbuster», c'est très simple. apt-get + une option dans ton navigateur. Et ne pas oublier de mettre à jour le fichier 'blockfile', je ne crois pas qu'il y ait automatiquement de cron qui le fasse. cf les trucs dans /usr/share/doc/junkbuster/examples. Essaie «apt-get install mozilla/unstable» (attention section non-us) Deux points: apt dans potato ne connait pas les options 'xxx/unstable' ou '-t unstable', à mon souvenir. Donc ftp et dpkg, à la Red Hat :) Ensuite, il est également pas mal d'installer mozilla-psm pour avoir les protocoles sécurisés. - konqueror : ne gère pas les javascripts ah bon ? Y a-t-il un site en particulier qui ne passe pas ? (je ne m'en aperçois pas trop, en fait) Je croise du javascript fréquemment, mais je n'ai pas repéré de comportement étrange. (konq 2.2.2-8) - lynx : pas d'images uniquement pour dépanner. w3m est *vraiment* très très très bien et mille fois mieux que lynx. Il supporte les tables, et plein de choses magnifiques... Youssef, un fan des tabs de mozilla c'est vrai que c'est pas mal !! Bonne soirée, Romain -- He who walks on burning coals is sure to get burned. -- Sinbad
Re: Virus détecté au boot après installation de lilo
Thus spake Gael PEGLIASCO on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 01:11:58PM +0100: Ou peut-être que les antivirus se mettent à détecter les logiciels distribués sous des licenses virales. (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/craig/05-03sharedsource.asp) Ce qui me surprends c'est que l'antivirus du bios ne me posait pas de problème lorsque je relançait lilo après avoir recompilé mon noyau. Un nouveau lilo représente sans doute un changement plus grand que simplement l'info d'où se trouve l'image du noyau. D'où déclenchement de l'avertissement. Mais ça doit être possible de remettre à jour les informations de l'antivirus. -- A good scapegoat is hard to find. A guilty conscience is the mother of invention. -- Carolyn Wells
Re: Virus détecté au boot après installation de lilo
Thus spake Helios de Creisquer on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 05:31:46PM +0100: Lu ' On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 01:26:20PM +, Christophe Baillon wrote: Normal, le MBR ne fait que 512 octets. Le noyau ne s'y trouve pas. exact, Lilo ne fait qu'aiguiller le démarrage du système. Je ne sais pas exactement comment il procède, mais je pense que l'emplacement du noyau doit se trouver sur le premier secteur de la partition linux (et non du mbr). moins exact, il me semble que le noyau lui meme n'a pas a se trouver sur un secteur particulier. Quelqu'un confirme ? :) La doc de LILO: (extraits de /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz) * LILO does not know how to read a file system. Instead, the map installer asks the kernel for the physical location of files (e.g. the kernel image(s)) and records that information. This allows LILO to work with most file systems that are supported by Linux. ... When booting from a hard disk, the very first sector of that disk, the so-called master boot record (MBR) is loaded. This sector contains a loader program and the partition table of the disk. The loader program usually loads the boot sector, as if the system was booting from a floppy. ... Disk sector addresses are conveyed from the Map Installer (lilo executable) to the boot loaders, first- and second-stages through a 5 byte structure: ... Et surtout: The image files can reside on any media that is accessible at boot time. There's no need to put them on the root device, although this certainly doesn't hurt. -- I have discovered that all human evil comes from this, man's being unable to sit still in a room. -- Blaise Pascal
Re: easter eggs
Thus spake martin f krafft on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 02:05:18AM +0100: also sprach Romain Lerallut [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001.12.27.0136 +0100]: if you type 'sl' (usually instead of 'ls') you get a nice steam-powered ascii train rolling across your terminal. awesome!!! but he doesn't use the console. i still installed it on all my servers for the users' pleasures ;) What about xsnow ? Not exactly an easter egg, but with some hacking of his .xsession Besides, it's the season ! :) -- Q: How was Thomas J. Watson buried? A: 9 edge down.
Re: Animated screenshot.
Thus spake P Prince on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 02:15:24AM -0500: Hello! Does anyone know of a utility to make an animated screen capture under X? I need to make a movie of my X desktop, applications, mouse functions, etc. If you do not know of a specific utility, would you know of any method of doing it? Well, you could use a shell script and a command line tool, but I don't think you'll get the mouse pointer. (I don't) Something like: #!/bin/sh i=0 while [ 1 ]; do sleep 1 #import -window root image$i.jpg scrot image$i.jpg let i=$i+1 done import is from imagemagick, scrot might be faster. If you find the right tool, I'll be interested to know. Good luck, Romain -- You're just the sort of person I imagined marrying, when I was little... except, y'know, not green... and without all the patches of fungus. -- Swamp Thing
Re: kernel building ways
Thus spake wsa on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 12:56:06PM +0100: Hi, I'm just trying to build my second kernel... Last time i did it, the kernel-how-to way, resulted in a few module dep errors... So i've searched the web and also came across this one: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.en.html Now what would be the best way to go about building a new kernel and are the instructions on that site correct? They worked for me. If they're not correct, feel free to report the bugs to the author. The documentation is also available as a debian package. (apt-get install newbiedoc) However, note that make-kpkg does not help you *configure* your kernel, it just ensures that the build process and installation are sane. It *does* make it easier to play with external modules (such as nvidia, or i2c and lm-sensors) provided you download the debian package instead of the upstream release. And is kpkg only suitable for debian sources...or could i use this method with the latest stable 2.4.x.x kernel sources if i ever feel the need to go wild:) make-kpkg needs some debian-specific stuff, but debian's kernel-source packages are usually uploaded a few days (2/3) after the official kernel release. Which, after the 2.4.15 fiasco, seems a reasonnable thing to do :) HTH, Romain -- Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision.
Re: easter eggs
Thus spake martin f krafft on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 01:17:03AM +0100: i am installing a debian system for my brother, and i need to pack it with easter eggs and weirdities to the brim. any hints? ;) In case he ever uses console, you should install 'sl' if you type 'sl' (usually instead of 'ls') you get a nice steam-powered ascii train rolling across your terminal. If you get a nice list of easter eggs, I'd be interested in them, as I evangelize quite a lot of my friends. :) HTH, and happy new year ! Romain
Re: zsh, le retour
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:55:11AM +0100: On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote: J'ai essayé zsh pour mon root, et je lui ai trouvé quelques problèmes ennuyeux. attention, c'est pas une bonne idée. zsh est dans /usr/bin/ en cas de boot en single, aïe, aïe... ça fait mal, il faut dans ce cas la passer en argument le shell qui va bien (un de ceux de /bin) effectivement, je n'y avais pas songé (sot que je suis!) Il est possible d'utiliser zsh en shell pour root, à condition de le placer physiquement dans /bin, ET de le compiler en statique. Il ne reconnaît plus C-a et C-e, ni 'home' et 'end' pour se déplacer dans la ligne de commande lorsque je fais un 'su', mais il n'y a aucun problème si je fais un 'su -'. heuu... c'est censé faire quoi 'home' et 'end' ?? Ce que ça fait usuellement dans de nombreux traitements de texte, déplacer le curseur au début ou à la fin de la ligne, ce que je préfère à C-a et C-e sinon pour le comportement des touches C-a C-e et autres, voir du côté de man zshzle. (zsh command line editor) plus exactement ce qui concerne: J'ai fait ! Et ça marche pour mon utilisateur principal, mais quand je lance un 'su', zsh oublie ces réglages, ce qui n'est pas le comportement de bash. Et puis taper 'bindkey -e' à chaque session 'su' c'est un peu agaçant. Et la chose est reproductible sur les autres utilisateurs (le pb n'est pas spécifique à root). En ajoutant le problème évoqué plus haut, je vais effectivement rester au bash pour mon root. Merci, Romain
Re: zsh, le retour
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 02:53:45PM +0100: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:55:11AM +0100: On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote: Il ne reconnaît plus C-a et C-e, ni 'home' et 'end' pour se déplacer dans la ligne de commande lorsque je fais un 'su', mais il n'y a aucun problème si je fais un 'su -'. c'est lié à su. ... le - permet de garder son environement certes, mais il a le mauvais goût de placer le nouvel utilisateur dans son $HOME, ce qui n'est pas toujours confortable. ... quand je lance un 'su', zsh oublie ces réglages, ce qui n'est pas le comportement de bash. Et puis taper 'bindkey -e' à chaque session 'su' c'est un peu agaçant. Et la chose est reproductible sur les autres utilisateurs (le pb n'est pas spécifique à root). en effet, dans ce cas aller fouiner du côté de /etc/zhs pour fixer ça de manière générale sur la machine, du coup tous les utilisateurs en bénéficient. ah oui, bonne idée. Mais je maintiens que ce comportement par défaut est un peu bizarre. En ajoutant le problème évoqué plus haut, je vais effectivement rester au bash pour mon root. Bonne idée, de toute façon, à quoi sert un shell pour root, vu qu'on ne travaille pas sous son identité. (sudo/calife sont tes amis) Je viens de regarder calife, et c'est vrai que ça a l'air pas mal. Ça me permet de garder mon shell et mon prompt customisé ! (après la nuit que j'ai passé à le convertir au zsh, ça fait plaisir :) Par contre, je pense qu'un alias ne lui fera pas de mal. 'cf' c'est pas pris comme commande ? Truc amusant: après un 'calife' en root, C-a et C-e ne marchent plus, mais Home et End oui :) Mais ça s'est réglé avec un bindkey -e dans /etc/zshenv... A propos, comme je n'ai pas */sbin dans mon $PATH, je n'ai de toute façon pas de complétion automatique pour certaines commandes (ifconfig, par ex.). Mais y a-t-il un inconvénient à avoir */sbin dans son $PATH ?? Au fond ? Merci, Romain
zsh, le retour
J'ai essayé zsh pour mon root, et je lui ai trouvé quelques problèmes ennuyeux. Il ne reconnaît plus C-a et C-e, ni 'home' et 'end' pour se déplacer dans la ligne de commande lorsque je fais un 'su', mais il n'y a aucun problème si je fais un 'su -'. Je veux bien pour 'home' et 'end' que j'ai définis à la main pour mon zsh à moi, mais les autres ne sont-ils pas sensés être les défauts ? Enfin notons que si bash est le shell de root, toutes les touches fonctionnent après un 'su', y compris celles que j'ai définies à la main pour mon zsh. Je repasse au bash pour root, car les C-a et C-e ont des effets assez bizarres sur les lignes de commandes, ce qui n'est pas bon. Si un de nos experts du zsh sait comment émuler le brave comportement du bash, je suis preneur. Merci, Romain PS: le comportement est indentique dans Eterm, Xterm et la console...
Re: zsh [was Re: Arf la fatigue! ]
Thus spake Christian Marillat on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 11:17:36AM +0100: AV == Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AV == Arnaud Vandyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Install zsh. Quel difference cela fera-t-il? $ rm * zsh: sure you want to delete all the files in /home/marillat [yn]? n zsh ne pose la question que pour un rm * En bonus tu as la complétion pour les options de certain programme. Christian J'utilise zsh, mais je remarque qu'il est pas mal long à démarrer. Donc si j'ouvre un shell et qu'il y a beaucoup d'activité disque, ça peut prendre plusieurs secondes pendant qu'il charge les fonctions. Est-ce qu'il y a une formule magique pour accélérer tout ça ? Mais je reconnais que apt-caTAB shTAB apaTAB qui renvoie 'apt-cache show apache', (idem dpkg -p apaTAB) c'est assez puissant !
Re: zsh [was Re: Arf la fatigue! ]
Thus spake Christian Marillat on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 02:02:24PM +0100: RL == Romain Lerallut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: J'utilise zsh, mais je remarque qu'il est pas mal long à démarrer. Donc si j'ouvre un shell et qu'il y a beaucoup d'activité disque, ça peut prendre plusieurs secondes pendant qu'il charge les fonctions. Il est long a démarrer a chaque nouvelle session parce qu'il construit le fichier ~/.zcompdump qui contient toute les complétions. Et on ne peut pas cacher (au sens anglais) ce fichier pour les sessions suivantes ? -- It is said that the lonely eagle flies to the mountain peaks while the lowly ant crawls the ground, but cannot the soul of the ant soar as high as the eagle?
Re: A propos de place disque
Thus spake Nicolas SABOURET on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 03:36:25PM +0100: Puisque Christian en parle, j'ai un petit problème sur ma machine. En excluant /home, /usr/local, /usr/src et /tmp, le système GNU-Linux pèse 1,2 Go !! Je suis en patate, avec Gnome mais pas KDE et pas grand chose de non officiel (le jdk, peut-être ?). Je trouve que ça fait beaucoup. Y a-t-il un moyen (même long) de trouver ce qui mange tant de place, autrement qu'en sélectionnant un bloc de paquets et en simulant leur désinstallation ? Nico. Il y a 'gorets', pour trouver quels paquets gorétisent la place sur quel système de fichiers. http://lists.debian.org/debian-french/2000/debian-french-200011/msg00717.html deb ftp://ftp.internatif.org/pub/debian/UNOFFICIAL ./ A+ Romain -- Be consistent. -- Larry Wall in the perl man page
Re: A propos de place disque
Thus spake Christian Marillat on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100: étant donné que le champ Installed-size n'est pas toujours juste. Ah bon ? Et pourquoi, comment, à cause de qui... ? -- Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool discovers something which either abolishes the system or expands it beyond recognition.
Re: A propos de place disque
Thus spake Christian Marillat on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:01:31PM +0100: RL == Romain Lerallut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thus spake Christian Marillat on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:34:49PM +0100: étant donné que le champ Installed-size n'est pas toujours juste. Ah bon ? Et pourquoi, comment, à cause de qui... ? Par exemple les paquets bbdb, gnus ou les fichiers sont compilés après l'installation. Ah, ok, effectivement. Mais si la différence est importante, ça pourrait être intéressant de donner une estimation de la taille finale. -- Exceptions prove the rule, and wreck the budget. -- Miller
Re: A propos de place disque
Thus spake Sylvain Sauvage on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:51:05PM +0100: Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake Christian Marillat on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 05:01:31PM +0100: étant donné que le champ Installed-size n'est pas toujours juste. ... Mais si la différence est importante, ça pourrait être intéressant de donner une estimation de la taille finale. Ne pas oublier non plus que les différents systèmes de fichiers (et leurs options) utilisent différement l'espace disque : clusters de tailles différentes, abondance de petits fichiers qui bouffent des clusters et des inodes, etc. Ces données ne peuvent donc être qu'indicatives (même si on est pas à 1 ou 2% près). C'est vrai. Il n'y a donc pas de solution miracle. Mais bon, au point où j'en suis: 240480 openoffice Je pense que ce ne sont pas quelques fichier générés automatiquement de plus ou de moins qui feront une grosse différence ! :) Merci pour ces réponses, Romain -- SCCS, the source motel! Programs check in and never check out! -- Ken Thompson
Re: A propos de place disque
Thus spake Sylvain Sauvage on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 07:52:41PM +0100: Chez moi, j2sdk1.4 = 125 Mo (les sources décompressées = 46 Mo, donc 80 Mo) mais les docs font 165 Mo (sans compter le tutoriel !) Qui dit mieux ? 240480 openoffice :) -- Q: Why did the germ cross the microscope? A: To get to the other slide.
Re: Xine coughs up probe_fast_memcpy error
Thus spake Kent West on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 09:20:49AM -0600: Not having any experience with playing DVDs (on any platform, much less Linux), I'm having some trouble. I was able to run vlc, but it's playback is choppy, and quite unusable. So I thought I'd try xine. From sid's dselect, I installed xine-ui, which installed a few other things, among which are xine-dvdnav and libxine. Maybe check the different versions of xine, xine-lib, etc. EnJaeLove[westk]:/home/westk xine This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.2 ... Built with xine library 0.9.2 [Wed 17 Oct 2001 00:42:31]-[gcc version 2.95.4 ^ ... Found xine library version: 0.9.4 (0.9.4). ^ Try to upgrade xine to 0.9.4 Free tip: xine-lib-d4d (for viewing DVDs) 0.9.4 doesn't work well with recent 2.4 kernels (recent is = 2.4.10). The 0.9.6 works fine here, and the 0.9.5 should also work fine. HTH, Romain -- Most of our lives are about proving something, either to ourselves or to someone else.
Re: DVD rip (Was RE: DVD Player)
Thus spake Joachim Trinkwitz on Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:48:21AM +0100: Thomas Hallaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Transcode is pretty much the only option for linux dvd - other format conversion (ripping). I haven't used it however. http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/ For transcode exists even a Debian package in unstable. You might also look at Drip: http://drip.sourceforge.net It's still heavily under development, but it looks promising. HTH, Romain -- If you fail to plan, plan to fail.
Re: Xine-dvdnav skipping problems [SOLVED]
Thus spake Mart van de Wege on Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:33:03PM +0100: On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 15:22, Mike McGuire wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:41:33PM +0100, Romain Lerallut wrote: Thus spake Mart van de Wege on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 08:32:47PM +0100: Using the dvdnav plugin for Xine, dvd playback skips a lot. It will play a few scenes, the drive light goes on for more data, and at that moment playback halts for a couple of seconds. All it does is print the following message to the console: '406 frames delivered, 1 frames skipped, 367 frames discarded'. ... I've got the same thing, mostly with dvdnav (can stop for 30sec sometimes) and slightly with dvdnav (stop for 1/2 seconds). This is with kernel 2.4.10 and 2.4.14, however it works used to work lawlessly with kernel 2.4.3 (at least nothing noticeable). (xine* 0.9.4 on Duron 700, Via chipset, GeForce 2MX) OK, it seems that Captain CSS fixed the bug and included it in xine-lib-d4d 0.2.9 for xine 0.9.5 and later. (http://www.geocities.com/captain_css/) xine 0.9.6 is in incoming.debian.org at the moment, and 'alien' debianized the xine-lib-d4d rpm just fine. No more embarrassing problem with my 2.4.14 kernel, everything is just fine. Now I can definitely move my 2.4.3 kernel to the attic. Thanks for your answers, I'll just sit back now, plug in xine, and enjoy the show ! Bye, Romain
Re: Xine-dvdnav skipping problems
Thus spake Mart van de Wege on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 08:32:47PM +0100: Folks, Just a minor nuisance, but if anyone knows of a solution, I'd be glad for the help. Using the dvdnav plugin for Xine, dvd playback skips a lot. It will play a few scenes, the drive light goes on for more data, and at that moment playback halts for a couple of seconds. All it does is print the following message to the console: '406 frames delivered, 1 frames skipped, 367 frames discarded'. I checked my drive settings, and it is using DMA. Moreover regular dvd playback works fine (ie using a D4D MRL), it's only when I try to use the features of the dvdnav plugin that I see this. Anyone have any idea? I crossposted this to xine-user as well, as I don't know if this is a Debian problem, or a xine problem. If someone on xine-user knows, I'd appreciate a cc, as I don't subscribe. Mart Sytem Info: PIII 500, Intel 440BX chipset nVidia TNT with nVidia drivers LiteOn 12x DVD drive xine 0.9.4, dvdnav 0.9.3.beta-1 kernel 2.4.14 Debian unstable (sid) I've got the same thing, mostly with dvdnav (can stop for 30sec sometimes) and slightly with dvdnav (stop for 1/2 seconds). This is with kernel 2.4.10 and 2.4.14, however it works used to work lawlessly with kernel 2.4.3 (at least nothing noticeable). (xine* 0.9.4 on Duron 700, Via chipset, GeForce 2MX) I can possibly run a few tests if someone needs it, including reviving my old 2.4.3. Anyway, if somebody has a fix, cc: to me, please. HTH, Romain -- Doubt isn't the opposite of faith; it is an element of faith. -- Paul Tillich, German theologian.
Patch pour winmodem Olitec et 2.4 (ancien Re: NVIDIA -...)
Thus spake Gael PEGLIASCO on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 03:31:02PM +0100: ... D'ailleurs je n'achèterais plus de matériels avec des drivers propriétaires, cela me fait penser au driver pour modem PCI d'Olitec, ils se sont arrêtés au support pour noyau 2.2. C'est trop pourri d'avoir du matériel de la sorte. Pour info: il y a un gros patch très sale mais qui marche avec les noyaux 2.4.x là: http://www.mbsi.ca/hsfcompat/ je l'ai testé ce WE sur 2.4.0 et 2.4.4 sans aucun pb. HTH, Romain -- Iron Law of Distribution: Them that has, gets.
Re: NVIDIA - System crash en quittant X
Thus spake Gael PEGLIASCO on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 02:38:37PM +0100: Driver nvidia # (bien sur) Option NvAgp 2 personnellement, je n'ai PAS compilé agpart dans mon noyau, et mon XF86Config-4 ressemble à ça: Section Device Identifier geforce Driver nvidia Option NoLogo 1 # nécessaire ?? BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection ce qui donne: $ cat /proc/nv/card0 - Driver Info - NVRM Version: 1.0-1541 -- Card Info -- Model:GeForce2 MX IRQ: 10 Video BIOS: 03.11.00.18 -- AGP Info --- AGP status: Enabled AGP Driver: NVIDIA Bridge: Via Apollo Pro KT133 SBA: Supported [disabled] FW: Supported [disabled] Rates:4x 2x 1x [4x] Registers:0x1f000217:0x0104 Et ça roule sans aucun pb [majeur]. HTH, Romain -- O give me a home, Where the buffalo roam, Where the deer and the antelope play, Where seldom is heard A discouraging word, 'Cause what can an antelope say?
Re: Log d'apt-get
Thus spake Rodolphe Quiedeville on Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 03:02:06PM +0200: Bonjour, Sur une machine Debian/woody nous sommes plusieurs admin a intervenir, et on souhaiterait avoir des info sur les dernieres mise a jour faite par apt-get . Il y a-t-il un moyen d'avoir une trace de tous les apt-get install, apt-get upgrade et apt-get dist-upgrade effectues ? La solution communément acceptée est d'utiliser 'script' (paquet bsdutils) Script makes a typescript of everything printed on your terminal. - Exemple - $ script Script started, file is typescript [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo hello hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Script done, file is typescript $ cat typescript Script started on Fri Oct 12 17:45:49 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo hello hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Script done on Fri Oct 12 17:45:58 2001 Merci HTH, Romain -- Aww, if you make me cry anymore, you'll fog up my helmet. -- Visionaries cartoon
Re: Log d'apt-get
Thus spake Rodolphe Quiedeville on Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 03:02:06PM +0200: Bonjour, Sur une machine Debian/woody nous sommes plusieurs admin a intervenir, et on souhaiterait avoir des info sur les dernieres mise a jour faite par apt-get . Il y a-t-il un moyen d'avoir une trace de tous les apt-get install, apt-get upgrade et apt-get dist-upgrade effectues ? Pour info, il y a un entrefilet à ce sujet dans la FAQ Debian http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-uptodate.html#s-keepingalog ( c'est fou tout ce que j'ai pu apprendre en la lisant justement avant-hier soir :) Par contre je ne trouve pas cette astuce dans la FAQ de debian-user-french (édition 25 Sept. 2001). Si quelqu'un peut confirmer que ma myopie ne s'est pas aggravée, ce serait bien de la rajouter. A+ Romain -- According to Kentucky state law, every person must take a bath at least once a year.
Re: compilation kernel
Thus spake Joris on Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 07:49:29PM -0400: ... on voit bien que c'est au moment de signer le package qui vient d'etre créé pendant la compilation qu'il y a une erreur mais quoi faire a part compiler avec la methode classique qui je pense ne doit pas poser de probleme si la signature n'est pas un élément indispensable, il y a les options 'us' et 'uc': make-kpkg (1) --us This option is passed to dpkg-buildpackage, and directs that package not to sign the source. This is only relevant for the buildpackage target. --uc This option is passed to dpkg-buildpackage, and directs that package not to sign the changelog. This is only relevant for the buildpackage target. ça devrait résoudre le problème. merci Joris Bon courage, Romain
Re: Question de débutant
Thus spake LUTHIER Olivier on Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:16:22PM +0200: Hello les pro, Je désirerais avoir la commande pour monter un second disque dur. Je sais devoir utiliser la commande mount, mais comment connaître le nom de mon périphérique (hda2, hda3 ?). la command est 'mount', par exemple: mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /usr mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /mnt/C -t permet de spécifier le format de la partition: ext2 est le format standard de Linux, mais on a également fat et vfat pour les partitions Windows (FAT16 et FAT32 respectivement), iso9660 pour les CD-ROMs et bien d'autres. /dev/hda2 signifie la seconde partition du disque maitre sur le premier contrôleur IDE: hd: contrôleur IDE a: maitre sur 1er contrôleur b: esclave sur 1er contrôleur c: maître sur 2nd contrôleur d: esclave sur second contrôleur et 1,2,3... sont les partitions. Des utilitaires comme fdisk ou cfdisk permettent de consulter, ou de modifier les partitions. D'ailleurs, quel est la commande qui me permettrait de lister les périphériques en cours ? les périphériques montés sont listables avec 'mount' sans arguments. Merci d'avance, et dans l'espoir de rejoindre la famille du LIBRE, salutation à tous ! Plusieurs paquets de doc sont disponibles sous Debian: doc-linux (ainsi que doc-linux-fr et doc-linux-html) (apt-get install doc-linux , puis aller dans /usr/share/doc/doc-linux ...) Sinon, consulter le Projet de Documentation Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp Et le site Debian Francophone http://www.debian-france.org Bon courage, A+ Romain
Re: Should /tmp be world writable?
Thus spake Colin Watson on Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:55:08AM -0500: On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 11:12:34AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 26 Sep 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: /tmp should (most would say must) be set to chmod 1777. daemons who run as nobody write there, your programs write there, cronjobs write there, etc. This is certainly my experience. But Debian seems to set it up initially as chmod 755, unless I changed it myself (don't think I did). I've heard of this happening before. If you manage to track it down to a particular package, please make sure a bug is filed against it. ... Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Couldn't that be turned into a lintian test ? ( and of course, 'if not , why ?' :) Romain -- The moon is a planet just like the Earth, only it is even deader.
Re: Way OT: getting values of list of variables
Thus spake Jeremy on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 01:27:16AM -0500: Hi, Good Morning, ... I have a series of variables that I'm importing to a bash script from another file, and I need a way to run a loop to echo the contents of each one in sequence. As an example, say this file has the following: var1=data1 var2=data2 var3=data3 var4=data4 Is there some way I can make my script start with var1 and echo each one through var4 WITHOUT hardcoding each seperate variable into the script? ... I'm not sure if I understand you right, but I think the 'eval' builtin could possibly help you: #!/bin/sh read a while [ -n $a ]; do eval $a # assigns 'data1' to 'var1', etc... # getting the names of the variables: tmp_var=$( echo $a | cut -d\= -f 1 ) # and the datas: tmp_data=$( echo $a | cut -d\= -f 2 ) eval $tmp_var=foobar # does var1=foobar read a done echo $var1# should output foobar Thanks, Jeremy I don't know what you intend to do with this, so I can't help you more, HTH, Romain -- To YOU I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition. -- Woody Allen
Re: Formatting program's output
Thus spake Frederik Vanrenterghem on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 05:57:46PM +0200: Hi, ... I would need to find a way to limit the number of characters per line fortune supplies. (Preferably by starting a new line on spaces of course, and not in the middle of a word). Any ideas how I could accomplish this? I think fold(1) from textutils should do what you want: $ echo 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' | fold --width=10 abcdefghij klmnopqrst uvwxyz and between words too: $ echo 'Two households, both alike in dignity, In fair Verona where we lay our scene...' | fold -s --width=16 Two households, both alike in dignity, In fair Verona where we lay our scene... Thanks in advance! HTH, Romain -- I've been on this lonely road so long, Does anybody know where it goes, I remember last time the signs pointed home, A month ago. -- Carpenters, Road Ode
Re: MS Windows users secretly dominating debian-user!
Thus spake oivvio polite on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:27:27AM +0200: Well not exactly dominating. Maybe not secretly either. But it sounded good. This oneliner from the department of utterly useless info tells it all: lol ! Somebody's overdosing on SlashDot :-) Romain -- If you're going to define a shortcut, then make it the base [sic] darn shortcut you can. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: runtimes
Thus spake Shaul Karl on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 03:16:27AM +0300: Thus spake whoever's name should be there that I lost, sorry: I'd like to have two different runtimes. One that boots into X and one that doesn't--but that still offers network support and other goodies. And how are you going to manage that? Are you going to boot into a default run level and then interactively change to the other one if that suits you? Have an interactive script that will be run at boot time and ask the user what run level he wish to use? init xxx as a kernel param at boot time. I *guess* you can have two LILO options with the same kernel, one for each runlevel, use lilo's boot-menu and then you can a very honest thing. ... Am I going to run into problems if I muck around with the default runtime settings. Maybe set 5 as the default and have it launch X. Use eihter 2 or 3 for the console level? No particular problem, if you know what you're doing. You may find yourself with some important programs not loaded, but that's all. I suggest reading Will Trillich's Runlevel Intro: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tutorials/runlevels-intro/t1.html HTH, Romain
Re: turning on X extensions with XFree86 4.0.x
Thus spake Joshua N Pritikin on Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 10:16:17PM +0530: i installed xserver-xfree86_4.0.3-4_i386.deb today, and simple things like the shaped window extension disappeared. xdpyinfo reports: number of extensions:8 LBX MIT-SHM SECURITY XC-APPGROUP XFree86-Bigfont XInputExtension XKEYBOARD XTEST However, i see a bunch of other goodies here: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a The man pages are not helpful; i'd prefer not to download the source code to research this. Is there some magic way to turn on these extensions? check out /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Section Module LoadGLcore Loaddbe Loaddri Loadextmod Loadglx EndSection HTH, Romain -- He who attacks the fundamentals of the American broadcasting industry attacks democracy itself. -- William S. Paley, chairman of CBS
Re: logitech oem mouse
Thus spake Markus Hansen on Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 11:36:31PM +0200: hi guys i have a logitech oem mouse model m-s48 it has a wheel to scroll up and down webpages. does anyone know how i can make this thing work? the mouee works fine as a 2 bottom mouse, but the wheel does not work! Thank you for helping me markus With X3 you need a tool called imwheel With X4, you need to add this: Section InputDevice Driver mouse ... Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons 5 ... EndSection However be advised that some of Logitech's M-S48 series can't be used with the mouse on linux, I think it's the OEM stuff. check out: http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ You might need another mouse. sorry. HTH, Romain -- Telephone, n.: An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance. -- Ambrose Bierce
Re: LILO question
Thus spake Guy Geens on Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:41:00PM +0200: mannequin == mannequin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mannequin I know this has probably been asked on here before, but I'm mannequin running Debian Stable on my i686 and I'm having problems mannequin with LILO. Basically, I have Debian installed on /dev/hda mannequin and Windoze on /dev/hdb. LILO is install on the boot block mannequin of /dev/hda. So here is where my problem lies; I cannot get mannequin LILO to boot my Windoze drive at all. I've looked through AFAIK, Windows doesn't like to be booted from the second hard disk. Swap the drives, and life will be a lot easier. I agree, lilo can swap drives depending on which image you want to boot: /etc/lilo.conf ... other=/dev/hdb1 label=windows map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 ... HTH, Romain -- This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. Had there been an actual emergency, then you would no longer be here.
Re: Windows-like crashes!
Thus spake Andrew Overholt on Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 09:43:02AM -0400: Hi, Hi. ... I decided to upgrade to the NVidia drivers from their site. This went off without a hitch and now I get the nice NVidia logo when starting Enlightenment. Yeah, so do I. I can't figure how to turn it off. ( best guess: can't) Last night, I decided to recompile my kernel without SMP support (I saw that I had it compiled in and that it would run faster without it. After running make xconfig, I ran make dep modules modules_install. This resulted in an error at the SMP part of the compilation at which point I realized that I have some screwed up kernel source 'cause this happens every time I try to compile without SMP support. sorry, no idea there. Oh well, I said, and went to bed. Today I turned on my machine and the X-Server wouldn't connect (text login vs. normal gdm). I thought this was weird so I tryed `startx'. This also did not work and after a few hours of messing around with different things, I recompiled my Nvidia drivers and now have working gdm again. For some reason, make modules_install removes the Nvidia driver from /lib/modules/2.XX.YY/kernel/video/NVdriver So move the NVdriver module to /lib/modules/2.XX.YY/nvidia/ or something. ( and modify INSTALLDIR in the Nvidia_kernel Makefile if you want) HOWEVER, whenever I try to play an MP3 in XMMS or view a movie in XMPS, the computer locks up completely! I mean, we're talking Windows-like jamming (but without the mouse moving) without a Ctrl-Alt-Del response or Ctrl-Alt-Backspace either. I have to hard reset my computer and then I get the usual fsck stuff which says there were detached inodes (I think ... or something like that) which get fixed (after entering the root password) and then the cycle repeats itself. Try aviplay instead. I have no problem with it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! What about sound ? It could also cause problems (including those freezes) What sound card are you using, with what kind of driver ? Bye, Romain
Re: Windows-like crashes!
Thus spake Andrew Overholt on Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 10:37:38AM -0400: On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote: HOWEVER, whenever I try to play an MP3 in XMMS or view a movie in XMPS, the computer locks up completely! I mean, we're talking Windows-like jamming (but without the mouse moving) without a Ctrl-Alt-Del response or Ctrl-Alt-Backspace either. I have to hard reset my computer and then I get the usual fsck stuff which says there were detached inodes (I think ... or something like that) which get fixed (after entering the root password) and then the cycle repeats itself. Try aviplay instead. I have no problem with it. What about sound ? It could also cause problems (including those freezes) What sound card are you using, with what kind of driver ? I'm using an SB Live with the kernel module emu10k1. It's listed in my /etc/modules. This never happenecd before (ie. the crasing - usually I'd just get errors like Cannot access /dev/dsp or something like that) and mpg123 does it too (the crashing)! OK, this is good. I have an SB Live too and it works very well with the kernel module. ( I tried Alsa but the sound was crappy) The cannot access /dev/dsp *could* possibly be caused by an application using /dev/dsp and bypassing any sound daemon ( such as arts or esd), thus blocking any other app from using it too. I use aviplay, xmms and mpg123 all three (at the same time sometimes :) with esd and I don't have any problem at all. I also used the avi plugin for xmms. However I've never managed to get a decent result from xmps, so I don't use it. I don't have to complain *too much* about the stability of Nvidia's 1.0-1251 drivers. Except they aren't opensource, which is a PITA enough... I find the general performance of my system is suffering as well from this recent mysterious problem. Try to pinpoint which app or driver is likely to cause crashes. My system is running very smoothly with the apps I mentioned earlier... Thanks again, Andrew Good luck. Romain -- Don't talk to me about disclaimers! I invented disclaimers! -- The Censored Hacker
Re: Prog. Languages (was: question?)
--- Wayne Sitton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... My question is what programming language is best to learn?? Wayne Usually, you choose a language depending on what you want done. YMMV. If you want to learn a bit about computer languages *in general* you may want to: 1) start with interpreted languages, such as Perl. ( not Python which is strongly object-oriented). It's easy to create a proglet that is useful , and very satisfying. 2a) then learn about object-oriented languages (Java, Python). I would advise *against* starting with an OO language, since it *might* be harder to come back to non-OO languages. *OR* 2b) then learn about compiled languages such as C. C is harder to program than interpreted languages, mostly because of memory management issues, but it is also IMHO very elegantly written. It has a lot of balance in its conception. You can understand more of the internals with C than with Java. *After* being decently fluent in C, you may want to learn C++ or others. Though I like C better for its simplicity and elegance. 3) then learn advanced Object-Oriented programming 4) or then learn highly abstracted languages such as Lisp or Objective CaML. Very good stuff there, but rather abstract I'm afraid. This is a special realm, be warned. :) 5) re-code KDE in assembly language. These are my opinions, based on my experiences with those languages (assembler and Python exepted), and my own tastes. Others may have different opinions, but PLEASE this is NOT a troll comparing the respective merits of different languages. Just don't use Fortran !! ( I do enough of it for both of us and a lot left over) HTH, Romain _ Sign up for FREE email from the Official Site for Garfield and Friends. Just go to http://www.e-garfield.com
Re: Scrolling mouse
On Sun, 27 May 2001, vester wrote: apt-get install imwheel In case you use X4 , you don't need imwheel. On Sun, 27 May 2001, Reza wrote: Hi there I use Logitech scrolling mouse which is connected in PS/2 , and I don't what to change to make the scrolling works.. can anyone help me? thanks regards, Reza Be careful , some Logitech mice's wheel don't work *at all* with Linux, see there: http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ HTH, Romain
Re: line numbers in code
On Fri, 25 May 2001, john gennard wrote: I'm having to look for certain lines in code and have been doing so by laboriously counting down the program. As many error messages make reference to line numbers, I feel sure there must be a simple way to locate say 'line 1267' How do people go about this? Thanks,John. The C preprocessor has a __LINE__ directive that is replaced by the line number. You can run *any* text through cpp (not just C program sources, I use it for my Fortran codes:) $echo '__LINE__' | cpp -P 1 (-P prevents the output of weird stuff for gcc ) HTH, Romain -- Qui donne au pauvre prête a Dieu. Victor Hugo, Les Voix intérieures
Re: line numbers in code
On Sat, 26 May 2001, Neil Booth wrote: Romain Lerallut wrote:- You can run *any* text through cpp (not just C program sources, I use it for my Fortran codes:) That's not true, certainly in GCC 3.0. Neil. h: echo '__LINE__' | cpp-3.0 -P 1 looks like you can ( with my Fortran codes too!) :-) Romain PS: anyway, after re-reading the original request, I realize my answer wasn't probably what was expected...
Samba: listing hosts
Greetings, With LinNeighborhood, I can get the list of the other computers on the network. What is the correct syntax with command-line tools ? Thanks for any help, Romain -- Weinberg's Principle: An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to the grand fallacy.
Re: Stopping vim from auto-indenting
On Sat, 5 May 2001, mdevin wrote: When I use vim to edit a file, then copy and paste some text into this file, the text gets automatically indented more than it should. snip :set noai (ai=auto-indent) should work HTH, Romain
installing horde/imp+pgSQL
Hello List I'm trying to install horde/imp with postgresql. (horde 2.4-7 , postgres_6.5.3 both out of testing) I am not familiar with databases, and I admit I'm a bit lost, with no man pages, no how-to describing this bloody installation.(the FAQ at horde.org is useless) Symptoms: when I do dpkg-reconfigure horde I answer questions and then I get: pgsql extension for php3 found. The user www-data is already trusted by Exim Include of /etc/horde/apache.conf found in apache config files. index.php settings in /etc/apache/srm.conf found! index.php3 settings in /etc/apache/srm.conf found! Error when trying to connect to the pgsql database. This error can occur if you have no database to connect to, or if the password was incorrect. use: dpkg-reconfigure -plow packagename to reconfigure. Error when trying to connect to the pgsql database. This error can occur if you have no database to connect to, or if the password was incorrect. use: dpkg-reconfigure -plow packagename to reconfigure. I have similar messages if I try to connect to my_server/horde/imp: Warning: Unable to connect to PostgresSQL server: FATAL 1: Database horde does not exist in pg_database in /etc/horde/db_pgsql.inc on line 40 Warning: 0 is not a PostgresSQL link index in /etc/horde/db_pgsql.inc on line 52 Warning: 0 is not a PostgresSQL link index in /etc/horde/db_pgsql.inc on line 55 Warning: 0 is not a PostgresSQL link index in /etc/horde/db_pgsql.inc on line 67 Warning: Unable to connect to PostgresSQL server: FATAL 1: Database horde does not exist in pg_database in /etc/horde/db_pgsql.inc on line 40 I've tried to fill /etc/horde/local.inc correctly but I may be wrong... php+apache+postgres seem to see each other: phpinfo() outputs some things about postgresql. Also my_server/horde/test.php3 looks nice, it sees php, phplib and it is able to create a HordeSession. But the PHPlib test fails... Thanks in advance for any help, Romain -- unfair competition, n.: Selling cheaper than we do.
Re: debian newbie tip-of-the-day signature script
Will, you could build a fortune cookie database: build your list of tips in this way: % tip of the day: #rm -rf /mnt/windows % other tip of the day: echo /etc/passwd | mail romain then run 'strfile', which is part of fortune-mod which builds a .dat file ( that's an index file, I believe) then just run 'fortune newbiedoc' ( well , for me it'll rather be 'fortune /home/romain/newbiedoc') HTH, Romain -- [The French Riviera is] a sunny place for shady people. -- Somerset Maugham
Re: debian newbie tip-of-the-day signature script
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:28:55PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:32:43AM -0500, will trillich wrote: snip,snip,snip Have you considered implementing this as a fortune type deal rather than your perl script? snip karl and romain -- this indeed looks easy. but it feels like i'll be adding comments and tips daily if not hourly, for a while at least. maybe when it calms down a bit, i'll hammer it into a fortune database. adding a new tip: echo % my_tip_fortune_db cat new_tip my_tip_fortune_db strfile my_tip_fortune_db how hard is that ? fortune can take an absolute filename as input, so you don't have to worry about copying it to /usr/share what i had considered, tho, is rube-goldberg-ing a web page allowing anyone to add tips (with heavy regex behind to scenes to check for duplication) of their own, and then offer a random tip via a finger-like service on a publicly-accessible port, to the community at large. newbiedoc.sourceforge.net doesn't have 'fortune' which is sad, but I used php to add a fortune cookie at the bottom of my web page: ?php system(/usr/games/fortune -s); ? We probably could use a similar php trick on the newbiedoc homepage, using a homemade script instead of 'fortune'. DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP: Why are *.rpm (RED HAT PACKAGES) considered spawn of Satan? I thought it that telnet was spawn of Satan ? Does that mean Satan's multithreaded ???
Re: any women here?
From: melissa ion kibbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is really a shame that more women aren't involved in Debian or technology in general, but thinking that their presence would do something other than get some different intellectual perspectives involved would be flawed. i am not saying some women wouldn't have some sort of gentling influence. what i am saying is that this would only be peripheral to what she can add to Debian or whatever she partakes in. melissa. Well, they could start by explaining why so few women are interested in IT, and if they see a way to overcome it. And if there is , and it's within our reach/abilities, well what are we waiting for ? I don't accept what is in fact a seggregation ( are there really that many 'g' in that word ? ) and I'm willing to make the appropriate efforts to help *anyone* interested in Debian. I just need to be shown the right direction. It's hard to solve a problem when you don't see where the problem exactly lies. I hope you get my meaning the right way smile here. We're all on the same side ! ( and if not, tell me, I'm not a native english speaker, so I might have expressed myself wrongly) Bye, Romain -- member of the Newbiedoc Project : docs by and for Debian newbies Join us here: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net Check out the Orange Cat! www.garfield.com Get your free customized E-mail from http://gmail.garfield.com !
Re: Blank screensaver
xset s off ( you might also want to disable dpms: xset -dpms) HTH, Romain On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Russell May wrote: How do I disable the automatic blank screensaver that kicks in? -Russell May -- Baby On Board.
Re: Newbie Welcome (was: what i've learned, and explanation.)
From: Glyn Millington [EMAIL PROTECTED] What might help is a daily post to the list with a subject line NEW TO LIST? READ THIS!! Glyn I think that when subscribing to 'debian-french' you get a rather lengthy mail featuring links to a number of sites, where to get info , etc. I haven't re-subscribed recently so I don't know if it has been implemented yet, but it shall be soon. Why not do the same with debian-user ? ( in case anyone's interested I *think* it's Martin Quinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] who did the job at debian-french ) HTH, Romain Check out the Orange Cat! www.garfield.com Get your free customized E-mail from http://gmail.garfield.com !
Re: vim intro (was water, water everywhere...)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, D-Man wrote: snip | wanna write up a vim intro at sourceForge.net/projects/newbiedoc/? I wrote a short 'vi' intro for 'newbiedoc'. Feel free to add any '(g)vim' extension you can think of. The html vi doc: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/proposed-update.rom1/newbiedoc/vi.html The sgml source code: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/newbiedoc/text_editing/vi.sgml?cvsroot=newbiedoc check here: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ for any info about how we work, what we do, etc... Can I write it in LaTeX? We decided to write all our doc in sgml (docbook) format, so that we can easily compile it into [a lot of] other formats. However, as Will said, you can write a 'latex' doc if want. I'm typing a report in LaTeX at work, using gvim and MikTeX (which is latex for dos/windows) just to show my colleagues what is a REAL word processor. See you, Romain
Re: geforce2 'rapid' screen save
Begin Original Message i have a geforce2 mx card, an updated sid system w/ xfree4.0.3. i've installed the binary drivers from nvidia as specified by the faq. works great. but after some use in X, it will blank the screen (as if the keyboard was inactive for a while). when i try to escape (by pressing 'shift') the screen will return. but immediately blank again. it does so in a continuous manner. i have seen this problem w/ the drivers in the stock xfree86. and console doesn't have this problem. in /var/log/XFree.0.log (or something like that) i see these two lines after one of these blank sessions when i switch to console to check the logs: (WW) Cannot open APM (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode 1152x864 i think the nvidia drivers is turning off the video card b/c its getting too hot. hence the apm warning. i've tried this with another monitor with the same problem. any clue? thanks. herbert End Original Message Hi ! I use a geforce too, with X4.0.2 and I do not have this problem. ( I have the same APM warning, best guess: disregard.) You should check the dpms and screen blanking settings: xset q should show the current settings xset s off and xset -dpms should disable any X-related screen blanking. HTH, and good luck Romain Check out the Orange Cat! www.garfield.com Get your free customized E-mail from http://gmail.garfield.com !
[SOLVED]Re: reinstalling tk ?
it turned out my /etc/X11/rgb.txt file was missing.
See my following post for more info.
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote:
Hello everyone !
My /usr has been slightly damaged, after a hard reboot. Now any x app
using tk dies at startup.(see error message below)
I've tried --reinstalling tk (8.2) , installing a new tk (8.3) but no
success.
I wonder if it's possible to --reinstall every package tk depends on ?
But would it work ? All other x-related apps (mostly gtk-based) work fine,
as far as I can see...
Thanks for any idea,
Romain
error message from tk:
Application initialization failed: unknown color name Black
Error in startup script: can't invoke winfo command: application has
been destroyed
while executing
winfo depth .
(file /etc/tkcvs/tkcvs_def.tcl line 1)
invoked from within
if {[file exists /etc/tkcvs/tkcvs_def.tcl]} {
source /etc/tkcvs/tkcvs_def.tcl
}
(file /usr/bin/tkcvs line 50)
The only common part between all tk apps being the line about Black , the
other error messages depend on the app used.
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weird apt-dpkg-X4 behaviour
Hello list! I recently had a crash which caused slight data corruption, including the tragic loss of /etc/X11/rgb.txt (provided by xfree86-common) I had updated to version 4.0.2-7 of xfree86-common when someone from debian-french told me there might be something wrong with /etc/X11/rgb.txt Indeed it was missing ! (and /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt was a broken symlink) I did apt-get install --reinstall xfree86-common , I tried dpkg -i xfree86-common. It work OK, but still no /etc/X11/rgb.txt. I removed the broken symlink (/usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt) and tried again. The bloody symlink was restored but *not* the original file !! Then I extracted the whole package to a temp dir and I was finally able to copy rgb.txt to /etc/X11. I'd like somebody to please explain why --reinstalling didn't re-create /etc/X11/rgb.txt. Is it a bug ? TIA, [a much relieved but a bit upset] Romain -- Ain't no right way to do a wrong thing. -- The Mad Dogtender
reinstalling tk ?
Hello everyone !
My /usr has been slightly damaged, after a hard reboot. Now any x app
using tk dies at startup.(see error message below)
I've tried --reinstalling tk (8.2) , installing a new tk (8.3) but no
success.
I wonder if it's possible to --reinstall every package tk depends on ?
But would it work ? All other x-related apps (mostly gtk-based) work fine,
as far as I can see...
Thanks for any idea,
Romain
error message from tk:
Application initialization failed: unknown color name Black
Error in startup script: can't invoke winfo command: application has
been destroyed
while executing
winfo depth .
(file /etc/tkcvs/tkcvs_def.tcl line 1)
invoked from within
if {[file exists /etc/tkcvs/tkcvs_def.tcl]} {
source /etc/tkcvs/tkcvs_def.tcl
}
(file /usr/bin/tkcvs line 50)
The only common part between all tk apps being the line about Black , the
other error messages depend on the app used.
--
LILO, you've got me on my knees!
-- David Black, [EMAIL PROTECTED], with apologies to Derek and the
Dominos, and Werner Almsberger
Monitoring eth0
Hello everyone ! Yesterday, I had (seemingly) no internet-related process running, but the network monitoring Epplet showed incoming traffic on eth0. How can I know what process uses eth0 ? Maybe some option of fuser, but I couldn't find anything in the manpage (I know how to see which process uses a given port, but nothing more). What console tool exists to monitor eth0 ? I intend to shut down as many services as required, X included, until I find which process is using my bandwidth. My apologies for being so unliterate, but I didn't find much about network activity monitoring in the doc I read. TIA, Romain Check out the Orange Cat! www.garfield.com Get your free customized E-mail from http://gmail.garfield.com !
Thanks ! (Was: Monitoring eth0)
Thank you all for your answers, I'll have a look at all those tools. Thanks again, Bye Romain On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Willi Dyck wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 06:58:40AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: hi roman to see what kind of traffic is on your lan you can run tcpdump - too much stuff - learn to read fast ?? showtraf- nice to/from output netwatch- shows you where traffic goes to/comes from mrtg(?) You could also use 'iptraf' and/or 'netstat' you should be able to explain all the traffic and ip# that is displayed c ya alvin http://www.linux-1u.net ... 1U raid5 ... 500Gb each .. http://www.linux-consulting.com On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Check out lsof -Original Message- From: romain lerallut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I know what process uses eth0 ? Maybe some option of fuser, but I couldn't find anything in the manpage (I know how to see which process uses a given port, but nothing more). What console tool exists to monitor eth0 ? I intend to shut down as many services as required, X included, until I find which process is using my bandwidth.
system slowdown when copying audio CDs
Good evening everyone! I have a problem when writing audio tracks from a CD to my HD. My PC slows down a *lot* when copying tracks from an audio CD, but not when I'm reading data (neither when I'm burning a CD). I use xcdroast as a frontend to cdrdao and its siblings, but I had the same problem with the command line tools. The CD and HD are on separate IDE controllers, so I don't see where the problem is... any clue someone ? TIA, Romain -- Well begun is half done. -- Aristotle
Re: system slowdown when copying audio CDs
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Gavin Hamill wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Romain Lerallut wrote: I have a problem when writing audio tracks from a CD to my HD. My PC slows down a *lot* when copying tracks from an audio CD, but not when I'm reading data (neither when I'm burning a CD). Ripping audio data requires your machine to throttle the IDE controller and the CD-ROM drive hard... and depending on your configuration, it /can/ be a very intensive process.. I'm sure we've all seen Windows freeze when you put a CD in because it's asking the CD drive about the newly inserted disc, and the drive is locking the IDE interface while it has a think... I have no SCSI CD-ROM, but I wouldn't be surprised if things were MUCH better That's what I think anyway - I'm no hardware guru so I'm probably completely wrong :) Regards, Gavin Okay, well if it's not unusual, then I'm feeling better. :-) Funny that the behavior of the CD drive is so different in the audio mode than in the data mode. Thanks, Romain
Re: Shells
On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, will trillich wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:19:15PM -0600, Rob Zietlow wrote: Does anyone know of a good website that teaches and gives good examples for programming Shell scripts in bash? I have some in one of my Linux books, but only about 5 pages worth and only gives extreme basics you can snoop through /etc/init.d/* to see some live examples... How about the bash-programming howto and the advanced-bash-scripts-howto ? http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Adv-Bash-Scr-HOWTO/index.html HTH Romain -- It is always hazardous to ask Why? in science, but it is often interesting to do so just the same. -- Isaac Asimov, 'The Genetic Code' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://newbieDoc.sourceforge.net/ -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie ???
Hi, and welcome to debian this is the correct list to call for help concerning debian. Somewhere in the world someone will usually know the problem you're talking about. You can either: if you have a bootable CD-Rom you don't need a rescue floppy: 1) boot the installation CD-ROM and type at LILO's prompt: rescue root=/dev/your_drive then press enter and this should work 2) if for some reason this didn't work: boot normally on the install cd-rom, and when you see the installation prompting you for info and all, press Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a console.Then mount /dev/your_linux_root /target = this allows you to access your linux root filesystem under /target, so /etc becomes /target/etc, etc... chroot /target = this changes the root so that /target becomes the new root. After this you can also do mount /usr , mount /var , etc if you need them. lilo will read your /etc/lilo.conf and reinstall lilo. If necessary, you can modify /etc/lilo.conf with a console text editor called 'ae'. if you don't have a bootable CD-Rom 3) install loadlin.exe , it's an msdos program that allows to boot linux. you need to find a compiled kernel , put it on your win partition install loadlin then boot as MS-DOS and: cd linux (assuming you put linux-related stuff there) loadlin zimage root=/dev/your_linux_root_filesystem ro where zimage is the kernel you found and /dev/... is where you put your linux root filesystem and finally ro to mount it as read-only. Good luck, Romain On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Subramaniam Aiyer (CTS) wrote: hi , i have just joined this mailing list.in fact i have just loaded debian yesterday at my place.now the problem i am facing is that i have some how deleted the lilo option using lilo - u (ooops) and to make matters worse i did not make a boot floppy either. hence, what's happening now is that i always boot into windows. is there a work around or should i reinstall it again? also if this is not the correct mailing list pls inform me so that i can unsuscribe. thanx in advance, subu p.s : i will be known as INDSpeedFreak from next time :)
Re: Any problems with this hardware?
1) I've seen a Duron+Gigabyte w/ SB128 installed, so you shouldn't expect much trouble there. 2) The 2MX is great. However, you'll *need* to have X4 installed to be able to get out of console. (I think that apt-get install task-x-window-system[-core] from testing should do the trick.) Then you get the basic nv driver so you can have a so-so working X. However I emphasisrecommend/emphasis getting the drivers from nvidia. You should also read this: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Nvidia-OpenGL-Configuration/index.html a document you really should refer to, and also to nvidia's FAQ. With it, just follow the step-by-step instructions, it's (mostly) a no-brainer. They all did a pretty good job... Good Luck, Romain On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: Hi! It is time to buy a new computer. Will I face any problems with this hardware? Board: Socket A GIGABYTE 7ZX Via 133 ATX with Sound Blaster 128 Sound on board CPU: AMD K7 Thunderbird 900 MHz RAM: SD-RAM 256 MB PC133 Video: Riva 128 TNT2 Pro AGP 32MB TV out or GeForce 2 MX AGP 32MB DDR Creative Labs I will install Debian 2.2 or woody of course. Any problems with this hardware? Do I have to look for NVidia-Drivers on their homepage or will X run out-of-the-potato-box? The on-board-sound-chip is an original SoundBlaster. It can be deaktivated. Would you recommend to use X4.0.2 and the newest Kernel 2.4.2? I've heard about those minimal requirements compiling Kernel 2.4.2. TIA juh -- Der dornige Zweig der Abderiten-Familie http://www.sudelbuch.de/2001/20010221.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root Password problem
If you use lilo (or grub) : if you normally boot by typing linux type instead linux init=/bin/bash (or /bin/sh, /bin/tcsh the shell you use/like) it will do a minimal boot ( you don't have anything ) and a shell root. Now do passwd and you should be able to type a new password without supplying the old one Good Luck Romain PS: if for some reason this does not work, I think you can also boot on a floppy (if you can't tweak your lilo), mount your usual root partition and erase the crypted fields of /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow. This means root doesn't have a password anymore... Then reboot (if you booted from a floppy) and change the root passwd immediately.if prompted for the older passwd just press Return On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Daniel Ray wrote: ok .. i am a little new are retriving passwords with debian or anyh flavor of linux My boss decided to play sysop while i was home sick .. so how he changes the root password .. I have the machine here .. ( it doesn't have a cd-rom drive ) my question how can i change the root password back . Thanks in advance Daniel
Re: sound device only available to root?? (message from lspci -v)
Well I'm in trouble then: :-) VGA compatible controller: Capabilities: available only to root same for the sound card, I don't know what it means exactly but I have both X and sound as a normal user :-) What sound card are you using ? Is your driver loaded as a module ? I remember hearing somewhere that the master volume might default to 0, so try aumix to set the volume... Good Luck, Romain On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Walter Tautz wrote: lspci -v 00:12.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq: Unknown device 5880 (rev 02) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 2003 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10 I/O ports at ff00 Capabilities: available only to root This would seem to account for the fact that sound is not working as a normal user and yes I am in the audio group. Alas mpg123 as root does not work either (on potato). Permissions: wtautz:3la /dev/dsp crw-rw1 root audio 14, 3 Feb 25 15:14 /dev/dsp wtautz:4la /dev/audio crw-rw1 root audio 14, 4 Feb 25 15:14 /dev/audio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: poweroff just doing shutdown
could you have changed kernel in the meantime ? or try to see if you have a module called apm.o I had the same stuff until I recompiled my kernel with apm support.(I haven't tried as a module). Bye Romain On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after all processes are ended.. the machine just hangs with poweroff on the screen. ^alt del reboots fine. FYI the exact same machine, with potato, poweroffed fine on a previous installation. Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How did linux corrupt hda1 (C: drive) fat16 filesystem?
Try fdisk /dev/hda the 'p' option prints the partition table info, you might find useful stuff there. HTH Romain On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, M David Tilson wrote: - Transcript of session follows - 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Host unknown (Name server: list.debian.org: host not found) Tried to cp a file from hda2 (linux) to hda1 (fat16). Now lilo cannot find anything on c: to boot. If I boot DOS6.2 with bootfloppy, c: looks EMPTY. However, linux finds files and folders on /mnt/hda1; but the names appear corrupted. Any way to recover? I've tried some Norton utilities in DOS, but no joy so far. TIA, dave
Re: RE: Wake Up on LAN
if you mean the MAC address, that info is provided by ifconfig if my memory is correct. Romain Begin Original Message From: c-3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:51:28 +0100 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Wake Up on LAN For WOL you need to know the node adress of the network card in the computer you want to wake up. Under Windows you can easily get it by winipcfg. But can someone tell me how to get it under linux? Christian On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 04:56:10PM +0100, Barthazi Andras wrote: | Hi! | | I should have to write a Backup system at my | company, and I need a program can wake up | the workstations. I know that I have to send | the the Magic code, do you know a program | can solve it for me? And is it true, that | I can just wake up a machine that suspended | before (not a machine turned off -- with a | motherboard under power)? | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] End Original Message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romain's Other Mail Agent on the InterNet Check out the Orange Cat! www.garfield.com Get your free customized E-mail from http://gmail.garfield.com !
host aliases
Hi! I have a simple question: how can I set up an alias for a host whose IP I don't have ? ( like: I defined 'debian' as an alias to 'ftp.debian.org' - lookup request sent to DNS - 64.28.67.101) /etc/hosts won't be happy unless I put an IP adress, however the LAN I'm connected to uses DHCP, so I can't be sure that IP numbers won't change unexpectedly. A google search didn't turn out anything 'clean', and neither did man hosts. Thanks for any idea, Romain
Re: Any experience with new NVIDIA drivers?
You need to remove the libGL* files installed by mesa and to re-install the nvidia drivers that provide accelerated libGL* For more (any and all) info check the http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Nvidia-OpenGL-Configuration/index.html it says basically: install XFree 4 install Mesa (apt-get) remove mesa's libGL (be careful there are libGL* and libGL.*) install Nvidia (make) HTH Romain -- Tuxracer rules! On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dr. Aldo Medina wrote: Bartosz Bobrek wrote: Dr. Aldo Medina wrote: I'm using a Gigabyte 6XOM7E-1 Mobo with a Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT. Debian 2.2r2 testing. I just installed the nvidia 0.9-6 from tarball. I followed the instructions in NVIDIA_Linux.html, including renaming /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a, /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a, /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so* and libGLcore.so*. I didn't had any /usr/lib/libGL.so file. When I tried xscreen-demo GL savers, the speed was very slow, so I tried searching for Mesa* files and I renamed libMesaGL.so.3 and libMesaGLU.so.3. I made a symlink from libMesaGL to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1, and from libMesaGLU. Now when I try GL savers, I get a shared library not found relating libGLU.so, so I deleted the libMesaGLU symlink. No success. Any ideas? can you send me output grom glxinfo?? bartek There you are. Thanks for replying. Searching in my system I found that I didn't had any libGLU.so* file, so I found it belonged to the package mesag3. Even when supposedly I had this installed the file didn't exist. So I reinstalled it, and now GL works again, but very slowly (slower than before I installed nvidia's driver).
MS internet keyboard
Good evening everyone, I'd like to use the wart-like special keys that came with my (ahem) MS internet keyboard, with X and if possible, with the console. I browsed google, found discussions in linux-kernel, grabbed the scancodes but nothing concrete , like a daemon that could spawn xmms, if you get my meaning. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Romain PS: BTW, is there an easy way to intercept the output of thekeyboard ? (like /dev/kbd ,or something ?) -- You can get there from here, but why on earth would you want to?
Re: MS internet keyboard
Thanks Richard and Nick! I have Xfree 4 so I used the microsoftpro XkbModel, and xev showed me keycode 235 XF86MyComputer etc,etc. Now I can setup all those useless buttons, thanks a _lot_ Romain On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Known Human Nick Rusnov wrote: Lo, on Sunday, February 4, Romain Lerallut did write: Good evening everyone, I'd like to use the wart-like special keys that came with my (ahem) MS internet keyboard, with X and if possible, with the console. SNIP Maybe not quite as helpful but I recently discovered that XFree 4 has support for several 'internet' keyboards. If you are running XFree 4, you can set which keyboard you're using in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.. in the section InputDevice for your keyboard: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel logicordless Option XkbLayout us EndSection Notice the XkbModel (in my case a logitech cordless). All the keys seem to have appropriate names (eg the little homepage button is XF86Home). I was so pleased to be able to control XMMS from the little multimedia keys. :-) The list of models is in /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86 If you're running XFree 3, then the previous poster's info may be of more help (I'm not sure if XFree 3 had as comprehensive Xkb support?) HTH. as always, nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.fargus.net/nick Developer - Systems Engineer - Mad System Guru - MOO Sales he picks up scraps of information/he's adept at adaptation because for strangers and arrangers/constant change is here to stay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: make problems
try rather a symlink ln -s /lib/libdb1.so /lib/libdb.so it will be easier than trying to modify an autoconf-generated makefile. Cheer up, you'll get it done :-) Romain Begin Original Message From: jdls [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a similar problem with compiling mod_dav from source (this is using debian testing). For some reason, ld couldn't find libdb, even though it was available in /lib/ (or /usr/lib, I can't remember) and ldconfig was finding it ok. My solution was to replace -ldb with -ldb1 in the Makefile. You don't actually have to replace the -ldb, you just have to make sure -ldb1 is there somewhere. I think I got libdb1 from the libdb1 package. -- hi, How do I replace the -ldb with ldb1 in the Makefile? or how do I make *sure* that -lbd1 is there *somewhere* so that gnome_dialup will compile correctly... I really like that gnome_dialup.. I've had that since *potato* was still unstable :( End Original Message Check out the Orange Cat! www.garfield.com Get your free customized E-mail from http://gmail.garfield.com !
Re: make problems
-ldb mean link to library libdb: /lib/libdb.so.2 it's in package libc6, so it's *strange* that you can't find it. for such things you can search pacakges.debian.org. On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When trying to compile gnome_dialup from source I get this error: trunks:/home/jdls/gnome_dialup# make usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldb collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [gnome-dialup] Error 1 searching the contents of the latest release or packages directories turns up nothing for ldb or -ldb? Hoping for some help Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alerte GRUB (fwd)
Here's something I got from debian-french. A bug from the savedefault option from the grub menu, which writes the new default setting not where it should: here's an extract from there: http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-grub/2001-January/004397.html What's worse, is that AFAICS save_default writes the saved_entry into A RANDOM SECTOR, without any sanity checks if the sector could be right. This is because install_second_sector, the sector where the saved_entry is written to, is initialized from %ebp which is not set in chain_stage2. and a reply: http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-grub/2001-February/004401.html Ok, I got. I'll fix the problem. For now, PLEASE DO NOT USE savedefault, since IT CAN BREAK THE CONTENTS OF YOUR DISK. Thanks, Okuji - Original mail sent by: Thierry LARONDE, Centre de Ressources Informatiques, Archamps - France http://www.cri74.org PingOO, serveur de com sur distribution GNU/Linux: http://www.pingoo.org - Thanks, Thierry!!
