[Declude.JunkMail] Helobogus error..

2002-11-19 Thread eddie pang
Hi All, I was wondering if someone can has experienced a error in helobogus. For some weird reason, I consistantly get a error with helobogus like hotmail.com with the msg failed. For some reason cs.com does not resolve either. 11/19/2002 00:05:07 Q0cd19bfb002cf91d HELOBOGUS:8 REVDNS:4 .

[Declude.JunkMail] HELO issues

2002-11-19 Thread Mistress O'Giggles
Hi everybody, My UNIX systems (two different machines using two different MTAs: sendmail and postfix) send a HELO using localhost. From what I can tell, this is common practice because administrators want to hide security details from other mail servers. However, JunkMail marks this as a problem.

[Declude.JunkMail] Some messages not being held / warned

2002-11-19 Thread Diarmaid Mac Aonghusa
Hi I have just setup our system and although it catches some messages others get through even though the headers indicate that Declude has scanned them. The headers from the mail below indicate that the mail has failed a lot of the tests including WEIGHT10 (which should append a warning to the

[Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Scott MacLean
The sneaky buggers are at it again. I've been getting more and more emails that don't fail any tests at all, but should be caught as spam due to multiple wordfilter hits. I had a look at the message (HTML) source, and found this: Hum!--nnbvmx--an Gr!--d--owth Hor!--fjkg--mone Th!--sdkf--erapy

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message We have seen quite a lot. It is happening more and more. If HTML comments could be ignored it would be a great addition. I wonder what would be the downfall of the idea? I also think another filter that can be considered is the routing type filter. I don't know if bad

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Helobogus error..

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I was wondering if someone can has experienced a error in helobogus. For some weird reason, I consistantly get a error with helobogus like hotmail.com with the msg failed. For some reason cs.com does not resolve either. 11/19/2002 00:05:07 Q0cd19bfb002cf91d Msg failed HELOBOGUS (Domain [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO issues

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
My UNIX systems (two different machines using two different MTAs: sendmail and postfix) send a HELO using localhost. From what I can tell, this is common practice because administrators want to hide security details from other mail servers. However, JunkMail marks this as a problem. If it is a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
The sneaky buggers are at it again. I've been getting more and more emails that don't fail any tests at all, but should be caught as spam due to multiple wordfilter hits. I had a look at the message (HTML) source, and found this: Hum!--nnbvmx--an Gr!--d--owth Hor!--fjkg--mone

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I guess one way to combat this is if the Country filter is additive. For example the weight of each country detected is added to the total weight. Does the filter do this? Yes, it does. :) -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Some messages not being held / warned

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have just setup our system and although it catches some messages others get through even though the headers indicate that Declude has scanned them. The headers from the mail below indicate that the mail has failed a lot of the tests including WEIGHT10 (which should append a warning to the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Markus Gufler
Title: Nachricht If you can wait for some weeks we can provide an external test-program that make some content-based tests. At the moment we have ready the first tests wich tries to identify things like HTML-only mails, subject with spaces (yes, the same as Decludes spamheaders-test) and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
We attempted implementing a test that counts the number of html comments and found that it was impractical as it consistently captured a large number of legitimate services. (Scott, you indicated that it might catch some - our experience has been that it captures so many we had to drop it.) I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Some messages not being held / warned

2002-11-19 Thread Diarmaid Mac Aonghusa
Do you have any per-user or per-domain settings? That is the most likely problem (IE you have WEIGHT10/WEIGHT20 set to IGNORE in the file that Declude JunkMail is using). There is a per domain setting but it is for the domain that the spam was addressed to and other spams to that domain to get

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
We attempted implementing a test that counts the number of html comments and found that it was impractical as it consistently captured a large number of legitimate services. (Scott, you indicated that it might catch some - our experience has been that it captures so many we had to drop it.) I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Smart Business Lists
R., Tuesday, November 19, 2002 you wrote: RSP I can understand an HTML E-mail having one or two comments in it, RSP but 10 or 20 is just a waste of bandwidth. That is information RSP the recipient will never see. Lots of the content management systems are heavily commented so I see a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Some messages not being held / warned

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Do you have any per-user or per-domain settings? That is the most likely problem (IE you have WEIGHT10/WEIGHT20 set to IGNORE in the file that Declude JunkMail is using). There is a per domain setting but it is for the domain that the spam was addressed to and other spams to that domain to get

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Lots of the content management systems are heavily commented so I see a lot of comments in html messages to subscribers. However, they are not commented between words but that's a difficult parse I think. Aha... that could be the key! A spammer will use something like

[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Marc Catuogno
I have one user who is getting absolutely hammered by spam. Last night I went through her mailbox and added many of the domains that she was getting spam from to my blacklist.txt file. The action have configured for that test is delete. It currently works as I can scan through the log and find

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-11-19 Thread John Tolmachoff
The BASE64 test will be triggered when E-mail contains a text or HTML MIME segment that is base64 encoded -- there is no reason for such segments to be base64 encoded, but spammers commonly use the base64 encoding to try to bypass filters. Follow-up question: Is there any good or allowed reason

DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-11-19 Thread Brian Milburn
Not when they are the text portions of the message. If you look at a complex raw email message, there may be several message parts. These can be BASE64 encoded files of any type. All the message parts are essentially contained in the message body. It is up to the client application to separate

[Declude.JunkMail] Unknown virus

2002-11-19 Thread Heimir Eidskrem
Customer is getting virus notifications but the virus is listed as unknown. Is this a known issue and how do I turn of notification for unknown virus. He is clean. H. Please, DO NOT respond to this e-mail. This is an automated e-mail messagesent to alert you that you attempted to send a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
The BASE64 test will be triggered when E-mail contains a text or HTML MIME segment that is base64 encoded -- there is no reason for such segments to be base64 encoded... Follow-up question: Is there any good or allowed reason to have BASE64 encoding in a message? It is *very* common to use

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown virus

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
Customer is getting virus notifications but the virus is listed as unknown. Hmm... that doesn't sound like a Declude JunkMail issue. :) Is this a known issue and how do I turn of notification for unknown virus. Unknown Virus appears when the virus scanner can't report to Declude Virus

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown virus

2002-11-19 Thread Patrick Childers
Customer is getting virus notifications but the virus is listed as unknown. Is this a known issue and how do I turn of notification for unknown virus. He is clean. H. This question really belongs on the declude.virus list. :-) From the Declude Virus Manual: Declude Virus (v1.53 and higher) can

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unknown virus

2002-11-19 Thread John Tolmachoff
Can you post a virus log snippet? It is possible an error was returned by the virus scanner. The logs will show this. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 test

2002-11-19 Thread Kami Razvan
Scott: We have seen that the Base64 test is also triggered for International languages. We used to have a high weight assigned to it but we noticed when people write each other using Unicode or foreign (non-English) characters the test is triggered. Is this known? Regards, Kami -Original

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Marc Catuogno
Scott, After reprinting the Junkmail manual I see why am only having partial success. I have been using the from domains in the format @emailoffers.com (occasionally using the format deals-central.com - to catch 10.dealscentral as well as 20.dealscentral). So I suppose since the from and or

[Declude.JunkMail] IP4R Tests Not Happening After Re-Install

2002-11-19 Thread David Delbridge
Hi folks, I recently re-installed IMail Declude after upgrading our mail server and immediately noticed a drop in JunkMail's accuracy. I now realize that in nine days, NONE of the IP4R tests or RHSBL tests have logged a single hit. What might cause this? The re-installation should have

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IP4R Tests Not Happening After Re-Install

2002-11-19 Thread John Tolmachoff
What DNS servers do you have Imail and Declude configured to use? John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Delbridge Sent:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
After reprinting the Junkmail manual I see why am only having partial success. I have been using the from domains in the format @emailoffers.com (occasionally using the format deals-central.com - to catch 10.dealscentral as well as 20.dealscentral). So I suppose since the from and or reply to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP4R Tests Not Happening AfterRe-Install

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I recently re-installed IMail Declude after upgrading our mail server and immediately noticed a drop in JunkMail's accuracy. I now realize that in nine days, NONE of the IP4R tests or RHSBL tests have logged a single hit. What might cause this? That will happen if your DNS server isn't

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Patrick Childers
So I suppose since the from and or reply to addresses are often going to be different than the X-declude sender (which I don't see in the e-mail headers? I'd have to dig through the I-mail logs to find this?) From the Declude Junkmail Manual: If you want to record the name of the sender

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Marc Catuogno
Patrick, Thanks. I found where that was #XSENDER OFF, took out the pound sign and changed it to ON. Now if I can get the people who get spam to copy and forward me the header info... Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Marc Catuogno
flailing a deceased equine... Crap. Running through the Imail log analyzer I found some of the host names I was looking for preceded by mail1 or some other name. I added these to the kill list in the hopes that this is actually the MAIL FROM in the SMTP envelope that is being reported. I also

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
They seemed to be originating from 216.39.115.66 (81,68,55) so I also added 216.39.115.0/24 to bannedip.txt. Would this work just as well, better or faster if I put these IPs in the SMTP control access list? Though I didn't see an easy way to block an entire class C. The 216.39.115.0/24 is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP4R Tests Not Happening AfterRe-Install

2002-11-19 Thread David Delbridge
Thank you for the replies, The DNS servers appear to be working fine. NSLOOKUP from a DOS prompt on the mail server to either of the DNS servers specified in IMail's SMTP service settings answers all of my queries, authoritative and recursive. Is there another test I might perform? Speaking of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Marc Catuogno
What am I doing wrong here? This is the E-mail header: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RBL-Warning: OSSOFT: http://spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL5031 X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.49.243.105 X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
| | However, that's the way spam control is heading. As more and | more people | get fed up with spam, more and more of the bozos that are | doing things the | wrong way will need to fix their problems. | | I can understand an HTML E-mail having one or two comments in | it, but 10 or | 20

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
That's a good point. Perhaps we'll do some testing in the new version for comments bounded by nonwhitespace. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. | Scott Perry | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:21 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread John Tolmachoff
IPBLACKLISTfromfile D:\bannedips.txt x 5 0 I think it needs to be ipfile instead of fromfile. IPBLACKLIST ipfile D:\bannedips.txtx 5 0 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist not working as expected

2002-11-19 Thread Marc Catuogno
Changed it to ipfile - lets see if that does it. I knew I was missing something Thanks - Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]