This looks like what I'm looking for. We are not interested in using the DFS
option, everything will be going on one server
I can buy something 3rd party, as well, if anyone has any suggestions for
something that might work better than this. In the past I have found that
the free MS tools are
If you want to move an entire image to a new machine then I would use
Acronis software to image the old server
Thanks, I don't want to move the entire image.
I just want to take every share that I have on this particular server and
move it to a new server with all the permissions
Quick question .
In Imail, can I use different domain.junkmail files even if my domains are
aliases of each other, rather than virtual?
TIA
Sharyn
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If I have a Weight 20 test in my global config, but no action for Weight 20
in my domain.junkmail file, will the weight 20 test just be ignored for that
domain?
Been awhile since I had to configure this, I can't remember how this works.
Thanks,
Sharyn
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Hi,
I was looking up a mailserver IP address in the DNSstuff's spam database
link and noticed that the mailserver in question was listed on the
FIVETENSRC spam database.
Underneath the listing, though, it said in parenthesis, do not use.
Is this not a valid test anymore?
Thanks,
Sharyn
1) /24 blocks of addresses containing systems that are apparently sending
bulk email (in volumes apparently comparable with the volume from AOL,
Earthlink, Google), with any of the following attributes: missing or bogus
reverse dns, reverse dns names in domains with no web server, or domains
with
Hi,
I understand that you can have whitelist entries in your global config file,
or you can have a text file with all your whitelist entries.
What happens if you have some entries in your global config and others in a
text file? Will Declude look at all of them? Can you have several whitelist
Hi Sharyn,
Declude will look at both and yes you can have several different whitelist
txt files.
Thanks!
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Good luck,
Matt
Sharyn Schmidt wrote:
I'm having a REALLY WEIRD email problem, makes me feel like I'm in the
twilight zone.
One of my users reported that she did not receive an email from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] until TODAY, but the email was sent on Tuesday,
1/23, at 10:28am. She forwarded
Regarding your issue, it would be best to share the headers from the E-mail
with the Received lines intact.
Here are the headers from the original email:
Received: from WDL.wilsondaniels.com [64.168.89.133] by cruzaninc.com with
ESMTP
(SMTPD-9.10) id A2950324; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:39:33
The headers show conclusively that your server didn't receive this message
until almost two days after it was sent. It was stuck on the sender's own
server and not yours.
Thanks, that's what I thought when I looked at it too, but wanted to make
sure before I went and blamed someone else.
Based on the headers and the logs this was a retransmission. Something
happened in the initial send that caused it to be aborted. They did not
attempt the resend until today. That's a very long retransmission interval.
As Kevin said earlier these kinds of things happen from time to time. In
Keeping 2 nics active during this switch is a great idea! Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 4:10 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Changing the IP address
Need to pick the brain's of the experts out there.
We are changing from a cable internet connection to a fiber one. The cable
connection is staying in place, so we will actually have 2 internet
connections at my main site. The cable one is going to serve as sort of a
guest/public internet
Did I start this? LOL! Sorry!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford
Whiteman
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:40 PM
To: Darin Cox
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Interesting Discussions
Have you been eating some slightly
Just upgraded to 4.3.23.
I'm getting a ton of stuff now that is being whitelisted.
I have several users whitelisted TO but not the entire domain. This is not
one of the users that is whitelisted TO.
Suggestions?
Here is the header info:
Received: from SpeedTouch.lan [83.8.172.182] by
As a followup to this email, I have a question.
I have a copy-all account for SEC purposes in which all incoming mail gets
copied to. I put THIS account in the WHITELIST TO because we need to see a
copy of EVERYTHING coming in, not just non spam emails.
So, here is my question. If I whitelist
Did you turn on the Auto Whitelist feature? That whitelists sender
addresses that appear in the recipient's webmail address book. It doesn't
appear to be so in this case, but we've seen problems with users having
their own address in their webmail address book, resulting in whitelisting
forging
If you change your log level to high it will log the exact reason the
message was whitelisted.
Also, remember if one user on the email (even if they were BCC'ed) is
whitelisted the whole message will be whitelisted.
What if all email is sent to a copyall account and I had the settings to
Here is the log for the message that really ticked me off. Sorry it's so
long but this message was sent to a ton of ppl, and it was whitelisted for
all of them.
The ONLY account that has any reference to whitelist is the masterbkup
account which is our copy all account in which we archive all
We are required to archive ALL incoming mail. The Sarbanes-Oxley Act does
not differentiate between legitimate mail and spam :)
I did remove the whitelist to.
I went back to using the masterbkup.junkmail file and just setting all
actions to ignore.
I just wanted to know what had caused this,
SOX only affects publicly traded companies, right?
As far as I know, right!
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LOL thanks Matt
This is surprising to me because he is normally right about everything. (and
he doesnt even gloat about it)
Guess I've gotten so complacent, I don't even bother to question what he
says, unless it's something I know for sure that is wrong.
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From:
Has anyone installed this yet? I am still running 2.06.
I just upgraded to IMAIL 2006.1 and was getting ready to install the Declude
3.X version when I noticed this one had just been released.
I am assuming that my old global config is pretty much out of date so it
wouldn't hurt to start over.
Hi,
I've been running since the pre-release came out for testing and I have not
encountered any new issues, but it certainly did address the old problems
that I've had.
Declude tech support advises that I use the setup file labeled new install
since I'm running such an old version of Declude
Um, I did... (in the subject line)
Decluded v2.06 and Imail 2006.1
Sharyn,
You should specify what version of Declude you are asking about. FYI, IMail
8.2+ requires Declude 3+. Some claim that older versions of Declude will
work, however there are also widely reported problems with
Title: Is anyone using this with Declude?
Comments?
http://www.invariantsystems.com/invRegEx/default.htm#Features
Thanks!
Sharyn
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Title: Message
Some say they work fine, others say they
don't. Declude's official position is that you have to have 3.x or 4.x for
IMail 8.2x or 2006.x
Thanks, Darin.
I
have a current Declude Service Agreement. Does this allow me to upgrade to
4.x?
Is
anyone using 4.x
Title: Message
I've been using commtouch for a few weeks now and
have noticed a significant reduction in spam.
This is in
addition to declude? Does a line get put in the config file to point to
this? Does this work with an older version of
Declude?
We have
Title: Global config for 3.11
Can I trouble someone to send me their standard global config file that came with junkmail 3.11?
I just want to see which tests have been added/changed from the config I'm running (2.06)
I will be doing the upgrade next week as tomorrow is my last day for
Title: Newest version
Good morning,
I am still running an older version of Declude but it seems that it is not really effective anymore.
We are getting tons of spam lately and I'm thinking about upgrading to the newest version in hopes that this will help.
What is the newest version
Title: Message
I am
running 2.06.
Yeah,
I know, really outdated.
I have
a current service agreement, but for the life of me, I can't figure out where to
download the latest version from the declude site.
Guess
I haven't done this in a really long time.
-Original
Title: Message
Ok, so
according to my service agreement, I can download 3.11 (finally found where to
download it).
The
software seems to have an exe set up file.
I do
NOT want to overwrite my current global config, I want to just get the new one
and add some of the newer tests to it.
Is
Title: Message
I then use SKIPIFWEIGHT at the top of all of my penalty text filter files
so that if the message is already spammy enough to have earned my highest action
weight, I don't spend any further CPU time on the message.
Thanks, this isexactly what I was
trying to do, I just
Title: Message
I then use SKIPIFWEIGHT at the top of all of my penalty text filter files
so that if the message is already spammy enough to have earned my highest action
weight, I don't spend any further CPU time on the message.
Will there be an entry in the log file
stating thatthe rest
Title: Message
Obviously I am just braindead or I have missed something
here.
If I
have SKIPIFWEIGHT 30 in my filter files, why are my logs still showing emails
having weights of over 30?
Btw,
I'm running V 2.06. According to the manual, this should be working with this
version which
Title: Message
On high level logs you will see this kind of log
line:
08/24/2006 13:43:01.192 qf32001b20052.smd
Filter COMBO-MP-SPAMCOP: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 691
(=315)
Im not seeing anything like that,so I'm guessing something
isn't right. Matter of
Title: Message
I don't know if the message comes in any log
level that is under high.
It's at the top of your filters, I
assume.
SKIPIFWEIGHT315
Yeah, that's how I have it. It's working. I changed my log level
from mid to high and I'm seeing that
message.
Title: SKIPIFWEIGHT question
I'm looking over the Declude Junkmail manual and I'm not clear on how this is used.
I have several filters and I delete on Weight 30. It's silly for Declude to keep processing the mail after it reaches weight 30 since it's going to be deleted anyway.
If I am
www.sysinternals.com : look for pskill
it's a free utility.
This works like a charm! Thanks!
Sharyn
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Title: Message
Andy?
I'm
guessing that this has to be run on the machine that one is killing the process
on?
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
SchmidtSent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:03 AMTo:
Well hell Scott!
Hope all is going well for you:)
Sharyn
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Title: Restrict all email except internal
Hi,
I am trying to figure out whether I can get Declude to catch all emails and put them in the spam folder that come from any source that isn't coming from my own network.
I have a temporary employee that needs internal email, however, they are
Title: Message
With JunkMail Pro you could create a filter
to check the sending domain via ENDSWITH, and create a separate version of
$default$.junkmail for that user to use this filter with an action of
ROUTETO
Anyone know what theoldest version of Junkmail is that
supports the ENDSWITH
Title: New server replacing the old one
Declude folks,
I am replacing my current mail server with a new one. I plan on running the exact same version of Imail and Declude Virus/Junkmail, and my OHN in Imail will remain the same.
The old server is being retired.
Anything special on my
Title: Message
This is actually a.gif embedded in the
email.
I have been blocking using the name of the gif but it
changes with each one, so these are still getting
through.
Any suggestions?
Sharyn
Subject: News Report
Title: Message
I believe each one
has a URL in the body of .smartblast and either .com or another word and then
.com.
I just checked the
entire email. There isn't one URL in the body..here is what there is, then the
coding for the gif (which I didn't include here). I hesitate to block on
instead of BANEXT snow... edit that to route to missouri. that will be
great.
no snow yet, just a few spits... I love snow... lots of it... makes hunting
so much more fun... plus snow camo is cool to wear :)
BANEXT snow = move to Florida.
said, smugly, after sipping Cruzan Rum drinks by
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Sharyn Schmidt
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 5:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Snow
instead of BANEXT snow... edit that to route to missouri.
that will be great.
no snow yet, just a few spits... I love snow... lots
Title: OT: Old Imail Forum
I just tried signing up for the IMAIL forum after a long absence and I'm noticing it is all webbased now?
Is the old Forum still around somewhere, but not being advertised?
Thanks,
Sharyn
Title: Message
THATS
the one I was looking for.
Thanks!!!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of John CarterSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005
10:59 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Old
Title: Message
LOL
I'm having a REALLY WEIRD problem and I'm just waiting for my list subscription
confirmation to post it
Aww..I
missed you all too.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Thursday, December
Title: Message
That would be pretty easy to do
with a _vbscript_. Create a FileSystemObject and have it access the file. That
exposes most file properties, including filesize, as I recall. The script can
send you an email ifthe filegets too large. Run the script
once a day using the task
Title: Message
From a server on the network, you would
have to have permissions to each machine to do that. If you run Active
Directory it's not a problem, though. In fact, you could add the script
Dave suggested to their startup to compile a report of pst sizes.
I do runan AD
Title: Message
The .NET framework is not needed for VBS scripts or
non-.NET executables, only for .NET compiled executables.
So now, the thing is to just find or have someone
write the script for you g.
Ifyou standardized thelocation
of the PST on every workstation, a simple
Title: WAY OT: software to monitor the size of the local Outlook.pst file
Good afternoon,
In the last few weeks, Desktop support has had issues in where Outlook has stopped working due to the size of the Outlook.pst file.
I back up these files using Backup Exec on a server.
I am looking
Title: Why did this fail reverse DNS
Good afternoon,
Something really odd is going on here.
All of a sudden, my own users are failing tests that they were passing last month.
Here is the spam attachment that Declude adds to our emails, if the weight is 10.
You **MAY** have spam!
of these problems as well, like CMDSPACE that MS mail
clients fail. With that setting, all users who authenticate when sending
will be whitelisted.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: Sharyn
Schmidt
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Why did this fail reverse DNS
Good afternoon,
Something really odd is going on here
whitelist
(or negative weight) by IP using an ipfile test. That would allow all
mail from your users to go through without filtering.
Darin.
- Original Message -
From: Sharyn
Schmidt
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:46 PM
Thanks for your help!
Sharyn
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Title: JAMMDNSBL
Good morning,
All of a sudden, out of the blue, one of my own users is triggering this JAMMDNSBL test. (using his cruzanltd.com email address)
Did something change? I have been off this list for awhile, and doing a search in the archives reveals nothing.
I have not made
Title: Message
Anyone else noticing over the past
few months that DNSBLs and RHSBLs have almost completely lost their
effectiveness?
Hmmm
I just finally bit the bullet the other day and upgraded
to2.0.6 from 1.82.
I used my old cfg file but copied over all the newest tests
including the
Title: This always confuses me..sorry
I have a default.junkmail file for my domain.
I have a user.junkmail file for a certain user in the domain.
I add a new test to my config file and the WARN action to my default.junkmail file for the domain.
I add nothing to the user.junkmail file.
Title: Message
If the user has a junkmail file, the settings from that file will be used
regardless of any other junkmail files. In this case the action would be
IGNORE.
Thanks. I work on Declude upgrades and
config changes about once ayear and I'm lucky ifI can remember what
I did
Title: Host alias and user.junkmail files
Hi,
Under my old OHM, todhunter.com, I had a todhunter.com folder with all my user.junkmail files, for individual user settings.
Now, my new OHM is Cruzaninc.com, with todhunter.com as the alias.
Does Declude look at this as two separate domains
Title: Latest non-beta version of Declude ..install question
Hello,
Yes, I'm a bit behind the times.
I am finally getting around to downloading what looks like the latest full version of Declude Junkmail and virus, 2.0.6, for Imail.
It used to be that I could just copy the declude.exe
Title: SO OT its' almost embarrasing: How to get in touch with Yahoo?
Hi,
When one does a search on yahoo for Todhunter International, a company and their URL that is not affiliated with us is being returned.
My CEO wants me to ensure the reference to this company is removed when doing a
Title: Message
I do not think there is anything they will do to change
the search engine rankings. The only way I would think you could resolve this
is to ensure your website ranks higher using legitimate SEO
techniques.
I would settle for just
speaking to someone to
Title: Message
Can you give the URL so we can see what site you are
talking about. Also there is NO way Yahoo is going to reallytell you why
they are listed, search engine listings are a highly guarded
secret.
Yep..here is the url:
www.interstate-sale.com
Title: Message
As to why this
page shows up, it likely does so for good reason. My guess is that it is
linked to by several things mentioning your products and they are in what
appears to be the proper industry.None of the product names or our company show up anywhere in the
Title: Message
LOL
I'll tell my CEO that
Thanks!
Sharyn
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of MattSent: Friday, May 13, 2005 3:47
PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail] SO OT its' almost
Title: Message
Its OT, but its funny.. AOL rocks.
Not so funny for
those of us that live in FL!
:)
Title: WAY WAY OT: Senior Developer needed
Folks,
We are currently seeking a candidate for employment in the Central Florida Area (Polk County). The candidate must be local, no relocation costs will be paid.
Please contact me offlist if you know of anyone that might be able to fill this
Title: Old OHN, now alias, does anythingelse need to be changed?
Hi
Thanks for the help here (David) and in the IMAIL list.
Everything seems to be working, however, I had one last question concerning the JunkMail setup.
I had a folder for todhunter.com where I had my individual user
Title: Possible official host name change
Declude folks
If I change the official host name on my mailserver, I am going to need a new activation key for junkmail and virus (I'm assuming).
How do I go about getting this?
Thanks,
Sharyn
Title: Message
Thanks.
Sharyn
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Franco-RochaSent: Friday, March 18, 2005
8:53 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail] Possible official host name change
It's called Manage Hosts in Network Solution's system, but is only on your
account menu if you've previously created one.
By the way, thanks to everyone that recommended godaddy.com as a registrar.
I have gotten 5 domains registered and set up with my own nameservers in
about 5 mins per domain
After 4 years of hard work and little sleep Scott Perry has decided to move
away from customer facing activities with Declude and will be spending more
of his time working with the Red Cross.
Scott continues his commitment to Declude in an advisory role.
LOL! Now, folks, is this a BIG SHOCKER
I moved from 1.81 to 1.82 this morning and I am not seeing any extra cpu
load, so it doesn't seem to be universal.
I moved from the last full release..1.75? To 1.82 this morning and things
seem fine here.
Sharyn
We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Title: Declude and Smartermail
Does anyone actually have a production Smarter Mail/Declude server in use?
Thoughts, comments, feedback?
Thanks,
Sharyn
Can I ask... (if you can't say it's ok)... does it hook in directly to
SmarterMail and can do all the actions just like with IMail? Or is it an
exe that runs when mail comes in and all it can do is delete mail? I'm
using a scanner now that does ClamAV + SpamAssassin but all that can do
really
Title: I G R E E T I N G S (from Kate)
Hi,
Forgive me for posting to all 3 lists, Im a bit brain dead this week.
Sometime this week someone mentioned they had received an email to download some greeting card.
Some one downloaded it on a test machine, and one of the anti virus scanners
Title: Second mail server
Scott,
Am I to assume that if I configure a backup mailserver I will need to purchase another full license for the Declude products?
Thanks,
Sharyn
Title: Five ten blacklist
Can someone give me a readers digest version of the reliability of the five ten blacklist?
Thanks,
Sharyn
Title: OT: Hello?
I haven't rec'd anything from either of these lists today?
Sharyn
If nothing else, we catch a good bit of spam and viruses that forge our
email addresses by using SPF.
I have found, that so, far, the BEST usage for SPF, as stated above, is that
it's catching spam that has spoofed my own domain's address.
Sharyn
We are the worldwide producer and marketer of
Title: Message
Declude is not a simple thing to implement and configure.
Those of us running it are more than capable of adding a line to our config
files and deciding how to weight it/configure it/otherwise implement it. We
don't NEED a "click OK to install" GUI that does something to our
Thanks for everyone's help yesterday and the day before with all my SPF
questions and issues.
The bottom line is, the email I have attached, failed the tests it was
supposed to fail, including the spf test, as this particular email did NOT
come from my mail server or my domain.
Matter of fact,
Title: RE: Syntax for spf
---
To use the new SPF test, you can add lines such as:
SPFPASS spf pass x -5 0
SPFFAIL spf fail x 8 0
to your global.cfg file. SPF returns PASS for E-mail that passes SPF (that comes from an IP that is acceptable to the owner of the domani that it claims to
sigh
This is legit, coming from my own mailserver, and it failed the SPF test.
Obviously something is not correct here.
Any suggestions?
I have used the wizard on the pobox site and pasted the text string into a
text record in my DNS.
I've had to disable the test for now as all my legit mail
The problem is that your SPF record (v=spf1 a mx ptr -all) doesn't list
IPs that your users may be connecting to your mailserver from.
The problem may also be that ID 10 T error and I never listed the IP of my
firewall, which uses an SMTP proxy. (Len is laughing if he is reading this)
In
Ok..
Does this mean things are working now?
I just ran the test on Scott's website...
SPF lookup of sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] from IP 24.73.160.162:
SPF string used: v=spf1 ip4:24.73.160.162 a mx ptr -all.
Processing SPF string: v=spf1 ip4:24.73.160.162 a mx ptr -all.
Testing
I lowered the weight of the spf fail weight to 1 (warn in headers) to test
this internally.
My internal IPs are still failing the spf test.
How do I go about whitelisting 5 subnets of internal IP addresses with IMAIL
7.15?
It's probably not a bad idea anyway, if it's possible, as everything
Chances are that you need to IPBYPASS the firewall's IP in your
global.cfg and then whitelist your LAN by it's IP space.
Do I have to list each individual address separately (will put it at over
200 addresses so this won't work) or can I use a /24 notation for each
subnet block?
Sharyn
We
Title: $default$.junkmail file questions
I have 2 domains on my mailserver:
Todhunter.com (my primary domain)
Cruzanltd.com (my virtual domain)
I have a $default$.junkmail file for the todhunter.com domain, and separate user.junkmail files, for my outside salespeople, who are to receive
Just a single per-domain config file
(\IMail\Declude\cruzanltd.com\$default$.JunkMail) should be all that is
needed in this case.
This is what I was looking for. I was unsure Declude would check a folder
marked cruzanltd.com for a default file or it would automatically use the
It gets complicated with aliases and forwarding, but if cruzanltd.com only
appears as a forwarding address, Declude JunkMail won't try to use it.
Ok...now I'm confused. I do actually have a cruzanltd.com domain set up on
the imail server, with mx records in dns and everything. People will
What I would do in this case is simply create a
\IMail\Declude\cruzanltd.com\$default$.JunkMail file, and not change
anything else. That way, E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will use the
\IMail\Declude\cruzanltd.com\$default$.JunkMail file, and E-mail to anyone
else will use whatever settings
Title: Declude and SPF records
We receive a lot of spam that looks like it's coming from our own domain (which it really isn't).
If I set up an SPF record for my own domain ( todhunter.com) and upgrade to the latest Declude beta, enable the SPF test, etc, will Declude nab spam that is sent
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