[Declude.JunkMail] test

2004-03-02 Thread Madscientist
ping --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas Porn

2004-02-27 Thread Madscientist
Yes. At 03:45 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote: Has anybody seen the crazy amount of porn spam being sent with the Habeas headers? --- Sign up for virus-free and spam-free e-mail with Nexus Technology Group

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Habeas Porn

2004-02-27 Thread Madscientist
At 04:41 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote: Today's related counts: My own Habeas filter: 17 HIL: 258 Number of my Habeas filters tripped that were in HIL: 1 Number of my Habeas filters tripped on my porn filter: 9 You know - it's probably crossed a mind or two - but it needs to be said. Is it now time to

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Nigerian Filter Creator Helper

2004-01-23 Thread Madscientist
__ Peter G McNeil (Madscientist, CodeDweller) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation. Chief SortMonster, www.SortMonster.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] restricted mailing?

2004-01-22 Thread Madscientist
a PL code in Sniffer, but the methodology works without it - In Declude you would use WHITELIST ANYWHERE plcode, and block everything else. Hope this helps, _M -- Best regards, Peter G McNeil (Madscientist, CodeDweller) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation. Chief SortMonster

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OBFUSCATION filter

2003-09-15 Thread Pete - Madscientist
Ahh. Understood. I got confused by our rules where we code for a single instance restricted to the URL. (Can't do that without wildcards). All good then. Great work! _M |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of |Matthew Bramble |Sent: Monday,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bogus comments

2003-09-12 Thread Pete - Madscientist
Not quite right. Normal HTML does often contain comments, usually generated automatically as a deubgging aid for the developer. Normal HTML does not usually contain comments that break up words like fr !-- catch me if you can -- ee (note that I added a space after fr and before ee to be sure

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] scrambled url in source of e-mail

2003-09-04 Thread Pete - Madscientist
Title: Message For one thing this is a great way to filter spam. There is no good reason to encode part of a url, or for that matter to encode "normal" characters. So, anything with %30%37.biz is _ALMOST_ certain to be spam. We have been testing a number of rules like this already with great

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More and more email getting past Declude

2003-09-02 Thread Pete - Madscientist
They're not getting past everything - we show a rejection rate of greater than 75% almost consistently... not to say that the problem isn't getting worse though. http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Performance/FlowRates.jsp We have seen a significant and apparently consistent rise in the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Declude notification and SoBig assault.

2003-08-22 Thread Pete - Madscientist
Message Sniffer has rules in place for this (about 30+ of them). We've also lifted the delay restriction on the demo license temporarily so that ANYONE can get this protection by running the demo license (sniffer2.snf) with Declude Junkmail. BE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST VERSION OF THE RULEBASE

RE: RE : [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?

2003-08-21 Thread Pete (Madscientist)
Please forward a copy of the newsletter to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as an attachment and I will adjust the rule base (if appropriate). This is a service we provide by default to each subscriber, but we also - in general - code the core rule base to avoid false positives whenever we hear about them

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] re: Strange logging

2003-07-03 Thread Madscientist
I caught this when my log analyser told me that I have a test called SPAM07/02/2003 snip This does seem to happen occasionally when several processes are appending to a text file in a very short period of time (not just with Declude; it happens with IMail SMTP32.exe processes as well). My

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Client with Redirect Command

2003-06-28 Thread Madscientist
At 07:27 PM 6/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: Can anyone out there recommend a Windows based email client that supports the redirect command ?? I believe The Bat! does that. _M

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Incredimail

2003-06-28 Thread Madscientist
At 10:31 AM 6/28/2003 -0700, you wrote: Is anyone blocking these content rich fun E-mails? I've had customers using the program have a raft of problems, the latest seems to be ISP's bouncing the Email based on the incredimail tag in the headers. We had some early rules show up due to spam

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Numeral SP00FING

2003-06-18 Thread Madscientist
We tried some generalized patterns in Message Sniffer at first, but always found too many false positives in the analysis. Now we just wait for an instance to come by and it's coded in the next update (usually within a couple hours). No false positives for these codings so far... but of course

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Leading space

2003-06-12 Thread Madscientist
At 08:57 AM 6/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: Hi I'm using whitelist anywhere as a poor man's whitelist to, since I can't justify the upgrade to Pro. I've got the line: whitelist anywhere nick@ in my global.cfm (I want to whitelist [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.)

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Held Spam Management

2003-06-12 Thread Madscientist
McNeil (Madscientist) Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-06 Thread Madscientist
Wouldn't it make sense to follow this logic... Do the positive weight tests (black tests) first in highest to lowest weight order. If the action threshold is reached then skip to the negative weight tests (white tests) in the same order but keep your place so you can resume if needed. If a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt

2003-05-30 Thread Madscientist
In the interim, a less complex method might be to have a setting which will ignore a white list entry for an address if more than one recipient is specified. This might take the form of a special kind of whitelist entry. Most valid messages to postmaster, for example, only have postmaster as the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wishlist reminder... :-)

2003-05-27 Thread Madscientist
You may not always want to do this. Some apps learn from white-list entries so if you were to prevent them running when a message was white-listed you would prevent some of that function. In many cases it might be ok, but not all to be sure. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Obfuscated Addresses

2003-04-06 Thread Madscientist
Be careful about this... Be sure that if you create a black rule for this kind of thing that you capture the href= part as well or else you will have quite a few false positives - generally from subscribed lists published by larger bulk houses. URL Encoded web links (partially encoded or fully

[Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Demo Updated.

2003-03-28 Thread Madscientist
for testing with Declude you will only need to replace your sniffer2.snf file so that you are evaluating with the most current rule base file. Hope this helps, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster, www.SortMonster.com VOX: 703-406-2016 FAX: 703-406

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Demo Updated.

2003-03-28 Thread Madscientist
-483-3393 | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Madscientist | Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:36 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Demo Updated. | | | For those of you who are evaluating Message

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Not Failing the comments test

2003-03-26 Thread Madscientist
The Message Sniffer rule for this is also being adjusted/broadened. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry ]Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:09 AM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Not Failing the comments

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting test results

2003-03-25 Thread Madscientist
| What we are doing is to track the 2000 (user configurable) | most recent spammer | IP addresses. The list is maintained as an MRU style list | (sorted with the | most recent at the top). If incoming messages reach a user | defined score, the | IP address of the spammer is added to the list.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Good ISP?

2003-03-11 Thread Madscientist
Recommend switching to Savvis/Bridge. They have been our primary for years and they are awesome. hth, _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode | Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:19 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Good ISP?

2003-03-11 Thread Madscientist
- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Madscientist | Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:18 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Good ISP? | | | Recommend switching to Savvis/Bridge. They have been our primary for | years and they are awesome. | | hth

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics

2003-02-26 Thread Madscientist
1. We are providing the data as a necessary service - the decisions about how that data is applied are out of our hands. I would hope that they would be used in an enlightened way, and in our shop we do that - however the discretion and the definition of enlightened is up to the ultimate owner

[Declude.JunkMail] A new feature idea.

2003-02-18 Thread Madscientist
of the delay in ip4dns list detection. Is this something that would be desired/possible/practical for Declude to implement? Thanks, _M Pete Mcneil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Information

2003-02-17 Thread Madscientist
]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Johnson ]Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:01 AM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer Information ] ] ]I wanted to gain some advise on using message sniffer. It seems

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] how much is junk?

2003-02-14 Thread Madscientist
The average spam/ham ratio for reported logs in Message Sniffer is 70%-75%. That is, 70%-75% of messages on average are spam. This is a small sample (about 20 systems on average) but it has been a very consistent range. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] copy all inbound/outbound mail

2003-02-07 Thread Madscientist
You could write a psuedotest for Declude which would handle archiving all messages fitting a particular profile - or all of them. The utility would see everything and would be integrated just like any other external test. We've experimented with a few knowledge base training systems like this

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.67 (beta) released

2003-02-04 Thread Madscientist
That's quoted printable stuff. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan | Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:14 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.67 (beta) released | | | Hi;

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Message Sniffer holding all mail

2003-01-28 Thread Madscientist
you are not authorized. | just glancing at the web try xnk05x5vmipeaof7 instead of the zeroes | and see if that fixes it. But it should be the string that was in the | distribution you downloaded. | | usually MadScientist replies pretty quickly on these things. snip | Terry Fritts | Sorry I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] Mozilla email client

2003-01-24 Thread Madscientist
The next phase of Message Sniffer development includes a compound Bayesian hinting algorythm to help modulate the black/white rule set. Since Message Sniffer works with Declude that's one way this technology will find it's way into the mix. Scott's got a good point though - Bayesian filtering (as

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag

2003-01-24 Thread Madscientist
No price increase here :-) _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Heath | Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:52 PM | To: Madscientist | Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude in PCMag | | | Congratulations, Scott. Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More more !--UserID--

2003-01-16 Thread Madscientist
]Something that we are also considering is a test that checks for more than ]X HTML comments in an E-mail (preferably just counting ones in the middle ]of words, such as unsub!-- user --scribe, rather than to !-- ]user -- ]unsubscribe, as the former prevents filtering whereas the latter ]does

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

2003-01-09 Thread Madscientist
Agreed here - we've been working on various white-rules for these domains and each attempt has failed due to the amount of actual spam sourced from these servers. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith | Sent: Thursday,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question

2003-01-05 Thread Madscientist
, _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Markus Gufler ]Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:32 AM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question ] ] ]Hi Madscientist, ] ]As I can understand we have a different

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question

2003-01-04 Thread Madscientist
According to recently collected Message Sniffer logs, on average more than 70% of incoming email is spam. We have an extremely low reported false positive rate. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Smart Business ]Lists ]Sent: Saturday,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] any ideas?

2002-12-24 Thread Madscientist
You might try .nifty-fun-pages.com _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paul | Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:01 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] any ideas? | | | Hey gang, | First, Merry Christmas,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wild card filters?

2002-12-23 Thread Madscientist
The Message Sniffer rule base already has a number of patterns like these (I recognize kara) based on common address patterns that are being used in spam - these seem to be very effictive and are not likely to cause false posiive (none reported so far). We've also begun adding patterns to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...

2002-12-19 Thread Madscientist
this helps, _M PS: We do have a number of rules coding for patters like this and they are very successful - not as successful as we thought they would be, but still pretty good! Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) | -Original

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...

2002-12-19 Thread Madscientist
I might add to this thread that it is fairly common to see Yahoo Redirects in spam content these days. There are many forms... We also see redirects through excite, msn, and some unsuspecting corporate sites - usually referenced by IP. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hex Code URL's...

2002-12-19 Thread Madscientist
Another good way to differentiate the encoded characters is to trap on encoding characters that _should_ be normal ascii letters or numbers. In theory, the only characters that should be encoded would be outside this range so it's a good bet that encoding normal characters is an obfuscation

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings

2002-12-04 Thread Madscientist
://www.tenforward.com | Ten Forward Communications 360-457-9023 | Nationwide access, neighborhood support! | | Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's | time to pause and reflect. Mark Twain | | | | - Original Message - | From: Madscientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings

2002-12-04 Thread Madscientist
we catch symbol 62 differently? V2 is configured as 'nonzero', ]meaning that all return codes other than zero are logged and treated alike ]by Declude. ] ]- Original Message - ]From: Madscientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings ] ] ] Sniffer version

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering E-Greetings

2002-12-03 Thread Madscientist
Junkmail with Message Sniffer will also handle it. All of these and more are included in the Message Sniffer Scumware Greetings rule group (Symbol 62). We are still looking for a reliable source for additional domains as they arise. This was an experimental group but we have had no false

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Free or Freedom

2002-11-29 Thread Madscientist
Suggestion: Is it possible to provide a special wildcard character that matches whitespace and punctuation? _M On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 08:23, R. Scott Perry wrote: Can we filter on the word FREE and not hit FREEDOM, or filter SEX and not SEXTET. The question is *what* do you want to filter

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Greeting Card EULA Abusers

2002-11-27 Thread Madscientist
Message Sniffer now has a new experimental rule group Scumware Greetings that contains all of the domains mentioned in the following message. The new rulesets for this have been published. Version 2 users will see symbol 62 for this group. If anybody has a reliable source for the growing list

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-20 Thread Madscientist
(Madscientist) Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) VOX: 703-406-2016 FAX: 703-406-2017 | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike K | Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:06 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
We attempted implementing a test that counts the number of html comments and found that it was impractical as it consistently captured a large number of legitimate services. (Scott, you indicated that it might catch some - our experience has been that it captures so many we had to drop it.) I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
| | However, that's the way spam control is heading. As more and | more people | get fed up with spam, more and more of the bozos that are | doing things the | wrong way will need to fix their problems. | | I can understand an HTML E-mail having one or two comments in | it, but 10 or | 20

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter bypassed

2002-11-19 Thread Madscientist
That's a good point. Perhaps we'll do some testing in the new version for comments bounded by nonwhitespace. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. | Scott Perry | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:21 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Two JunkMail questions please...

2002-11-04 Thread Madscientist
Our test server does not show any significant difference between Declude alone and Declude w/ Message Sniffer. Performance logs report average processing times of about 170ms per message - and this includes the time it takes to load the rule base and the message under test. Our test bed server

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unwanted E-cards filling email inboxes

2002-10-28 Thread Madscientist
IMFilter can help with that and it's free. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff ]Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:13 PM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unwanted E-cards filling

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Catching SPAM when the sender = recipient

2002-10-28 Thread Madscientist
The test could match any email where from and to are the same but delivery is not local. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-owner;declude.com] On Behalf Of Todd Holt | Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 10:47 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Help

2002-10-16 Thread Madscientist
An Asside - Watch out for false positives with this one. We tried a rule that captured all numeric-only web links as they are a favorite for porn spammers and mortgage folks. Unfortunately we discovered that a number of legitimate news services also do this sometimes so we were forced to begin

RE: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam Mail Statistics

2002-10-14 Thread Madscientist
That's a bad sign. None of those ports should be open to the outside world - you risk having your entire network hijacked. It's good practice to block all ports that are not required for services you are offering specifically. But especially block: 135, 137, 138, 139. Hope this helps, _M |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Effectiveness

2002-10-08 Thread Madscientist
We're getting further off-topic for the Declude list I think. Apologies again. | The personal messages are the most difficult and becoming | worse. They are random and infrequent. They are often among | the most important messages. Individuals have an | unbelievable number of private

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FYI - APPENDING is newest spam fad

2002-10-08 Thread Madscientist
| Declude probably doesn't need to do anything special - spam | is still spam, but this really bothers me that spam | technologies like this are starting to become mainstream -- | Maybe we really do need laws regulating spam as a law would | quickly stop all these for-profit, but easily

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Effectiveness

2002-10-06 Thread Madscientist
this helps, _M ] ]Thanks ]Dan ] ] ] ]On Saturday, October 5, 2002 19:18, Madscientist ][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ]Perhaps you misunderstood. ]More than 70% of ALL traffic is captured on average for reporting systems. ]The base includes non-spam as well. In terms of a percentage of spam, ]Declude has

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Effectiveness

2002-10-05 Thread Madscientist
believe the spam filter that comes free with Mac OS 10.2 ]does that well by itself, though I haven't tested it for FPs yet. ]Has anyone else tried it? ] ]Dan ] ] ]On Friday, October 4, 2002 14:02, Madscientist ][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ]We have similar circumstances in the email systems that we host

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Newbie question about baseline

2002-10-04 Thread Madscientist
We have similar circumstances in the email systems that we host. We currently trap more than 80% of incoming messages as spam with our Message Sniffer software. The average for all reporting systems is something just over 70%. I think Declude w/ Message Sniffer is the way to go if you have an

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering question

2002-10-03 Thread Madscientist
Scott, Is it possible to enclose phrases in quotes for these filters? robert allen If not can this be a feature request? _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. | Scott Perry | Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:33 AM | To:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-26 Thread Madscientist
For now, you will want to whitelist these. The trouble is that many lists append advertising content to their messages. Sniffer tends to get triggered by the advertising content. Next month we plan to release a version that includes compound heuristics. At that time we will begin adding

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter in BASE64?

2002-09-25 Thread Madscientist
Declude does not decode base64, rather it simply detects html base64 segments which are highly likely to be spam. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott MacLean ]Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:10 AM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wordfilter in BASE64?

2002-09-25 Thread Madscientist
that *weren't* spam? Are there any email clients that actually put out such a thing?At 08:14 AM 9/25/2002, Madscientist wrote: Declude does not decode base64, rather it simply detects html base64segments which are highly likely to be spam._M]-Original Message-]From: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Web Site ?

2002-09-24 Thread Madscientist
Yup - no joy for quite a bit now. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Kratka ]Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 5:49 PM ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Web Site ? ] ] ]Is anyone else having difficulties with the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Base 64 test

2002-09-23 Thread Madscientist
Anecdotally this makes a lot of sense. It was primarily porn spam that caused us to move our filterchain module development forward in the sniffer program. _M ]-Original Message- ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff ]Sent: Monday, September 23,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgrade to sniffer 1.1

2002-09-23 Thread Madscientist
This rule 10222 should match only a specific email address... however the scan index and ended are both z which is not possible. It is likley you have a corrupted .snf file. Hope this helps, _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail

2002-09-17 Thread Madscientist
Gosh I'd like to know how he made that account and got it spammed so quickly. That knowledge would be quite a tool. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom | Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:21 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS

2002-09-17 Thread Madscientist
It might be a good test to put into the weights. Another one would be a test that looks that the sender's (from their address) and fails if the first MX doesn't match up. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. | Scott Perry |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Toms Kill List

2002-09-17 Thread Madscientist
The preceeding @ ensures that the match is an email with the example domain. The preceeding . ensures that the match is the domain used in a host link like www.example.com and so forth. Without these preceeding characters the following might also match incorrectly... legitimatexample.com Using

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail

2002-09-17 Thread Madscientist
I guess that makes sense. We've got a few accounts like that out there - we set them up, forward them into our system for evaluation, and never use them for anything else... but there's a definite 'color' to the content - meaning the spam we get there is skewed to a specifi strange attractor -

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail

2002-09-17 Thread Madscientist
Of Madscientist | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:10 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | I guess that makes sense. | We've got a few accounts like that out there - we set them | up, forward them into our system for evaluation

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail

2002-09-17 Thread Madscientist
This game subverted the entire office. ;-) _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Alexis D. Gutzman | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:48 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Timed weight?

2002-09-11 Thread Madscientist
Now there's a sophisticated element to the test. You could key the time to the geographic region of the sender's IP range. Not much more work (since it's generally hard-coded) but makes the test useful for determining the time of day at the sender's location -- in theory anyway. Thoughts? _M

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAM-L Digest fails spam headers and Sniffer.

2002-09-09 Thread Madscientist
Yup. The log for the trial version should be SNFdemo.log. The 42 you see would be the result code which is the ruleid % 64 + 1 - not quite specific enough. Hope this helps, _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John | Tolmachoff |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAM-L Digest fails spam headers and Sniffer.

2002-09-06 Thread Madscientist
Can you indicate the specific rule that failed from the sniffer.log file? I'd like to look it up and see how it's coded. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John | Tolmachoff | Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:29 PM | To: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More encoded spam

2002-09-05 Thread Madscientist
I think you're right there... Spammers didn't invent this as a means of obfuscatoin... It seems that what happened is some lucky spammers sent out a few messages this way because that's how their software of choice worked - and they discovered that it was a good way not to get filtered - and so

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Encoded Email... how?

2002-09-04 Thread Madscientist
We've just added a base64 decoding filter to the Message Sniffer program for precisely this reason. This makes encoded HTML segments or attached files look like plain data to the pattern matching engine. There are other coding tricks in use as well and we are building those filter modules for

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Encoded Email... how?

2002-09-04 Thread Madscientist
We've seen a lot of this as well, and frankly it works against them. There are seldom legitimate reasons to obscure a web link - particularly by coding it as binary or as a long integer. The Message Sniffer rule base some aggressive rules built to trap any web link that starts off with more than

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FILTER test...how much of the body does it read?

2002-09-03 Thread Madscientist
I'm not sure you want to go that route - there's a lot of good spam fodder at the top of a message. The pattern matching engine in sniffer can afford to wade through the entire message so we've got a lot of rules in the Sniffer database that start in the top of a message and end in the bottom.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter file question

2002-07-26 Thread Madscientist
| | Answering several E-mails here... | | Regexp! :) | | Probably wishful thinking, I'm sure writing in pattern | matching would | be a hefty involvement. | | Yes, regexp would be a very hefty involvement (and very | resource intensive). Sniffer's online rule manager is getting closer

RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console

2002-07-17 Thread Madscientist
We've worked on that beast in the lab - it's a side project. Haven't seen one out on the street - maybe it's out there somewhere. The trouble is cost bandwidth. Video capture compression takes a lot of cycles and essentially requires a whole computer to do - a high-end one at that, especially

RE: KITHRUP:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELO:Declude Console

2002-07-16 Thread Madscientist
We like this (VNC) also - but it can be slow on the updates some times. For that, you might use VNC to launch netmeeting - unless you're going to do something quick. Ironically, we use VNC to kickstart PCAW on boxes where that's been required - PCAW has a habbit of crashing - VNC doesn't. My

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Word Filters - Spammers getting smarter

2002-07-08 Thread Madscientist
Caution... I had a similar test in Message Sniffer some weeks ago with tragic results - too many false positives so we had to pull it. We have a mod in the works to get around this hack - including a stream filter to drop all html comments before matching. That would be a good one for you to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML-Test?

2002-06-13 Thread Madscientist
Unfortunately this leads to a high false positive rate. (We tried it and pulled it.) _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Joshua Levitsky | Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:11 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BLARSBL:Setting up a spam trap.

2002-06-10 Thread Madscientist
Some spam traps are easier... Another method is to set up the address, and then use it to visit some shadey web sites... Then cancel your subscriptions (if required). The email will most certainly be added to every similar list and will live in perpetuity (based on my observations). _M |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Handling Held Spams

2002-06-06 Thread Madscientist
We delete held spam after 30 days. If a false positive possibility arrizes, we will use a file - search in our holding bin to identify any messages that have the correct keywords - If we verify the false positive this way we can not only put it back in stream, but also adjust our filtering scheme

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter?

2002-05-30 Thread Madscientist
Title: Message Make that definitely. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark SmithSent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter? They're probably

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers getting smarter?

2002-05-29 Thread Madscientist
Title: Message It is a full scale arms race - we've seen some amazing things... _M -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark SmithSent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] One more novice question...

2002-05-01 Thread Madscientist
Try .postmasterdirect.com Including the leading dot ensures you're not getting other domains. Maybe also @postmaster.com for when that gets tried. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan | Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What do you think of this?

2002-04-26 Thread Madscientist
I think you might arrange it by creating a new test called BOOL that uses other test names (including other bools) and allows for a boolean expression to pass or fail. Then the resulting test could be weighted in. This would give the most flexibility with the simplest (read most reliable fast)

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop Dead.

2002-04-25 Thread Madscientist
No specific idea, but I did just watch a HUGE network instability pass through the UUNet network... Took the last half hour or so to stabilize (knock wood). Maybe that's part of it. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick

RE: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist/Whitelist

2002-04-01 Thread Madscientist
How about the message is held in the usual place (spam folder)... Cleanup is a separate function, perhaps a scheduled job to remove older (30day +) messages from the folder. Declude would intercept a response message and move the referenced message by queue file name either to the spool or to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DORKZTL:Spammers lose in small-claims court

2002-03-26 Thread Madscientist
[NOTE: Your mail server [216.88.36.96] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.] [NOTE: Your mail server [216.88.36.96] is missing a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DORKZTL:Spammers lose in small-claims court

2002-03-26 Thread Madscientist
[NOTE: Your mail server [216.88.36.96] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.] Thanks... I've forwarded that info as well. _M |

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DORKZTL:Spammers lose in small-claims court

2002-03-26 Thread Madscientist
[NOTE: Your mail server [216.88.36.96] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.] Today, I have all the luck. %^b _M | -Original

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