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In the "VB Beats Delphi in 'independent' review" thread Neven said:
"Are they trying to sucker us to C++ so we miss the VB - C# Stampede?"
Rather, I think, there may be a Delphi - C# Stampede.
As background to my ruminations I present the following articles.
C#, the natural progression
Hi James,
Dr Bob has written a tool which does C to Object Pascal conversion.
Have a look at: http://www.drbob42.com/delphi/headconv.htm
There is a table of conversions there as well. Have a close look at boolean
conversion. I think Dr Bobs docs have got it wrong - I don't know about his
tool.
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Subject: [DUG]: Is Delphi dead?
In the "VB Beats Delphi in 'independent' review" thread Neven said:
"Are
Martin
"Are they trying to sucker us to C++ so we miss the VB - C# Stampede?"
You probably missed the intended sarcasm in that remark.
One of the "features" of C# is platform independence with M$ recent history
on
this topic (the J++ windowising) would you trust these people.
Delphi/Kylix is
Neven MacEwan wrote:
snip
Delphi/Kylix is still my first choice for Graphical App Development and the
recent
thread on Free Pascal/Lazarus only reinforces that choice (if it was a load
of crap why would people copy it)
Sorry Neven, just couldn't resist this one.
VHS vs BetaMax, PC vs Mac
From: Martin Paulo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I think, there may be a Delphi - C# Stampede.
I'm very pleased to see C#. Firstly, it's tantamount to an admission by M$
that Delphi, despite it's differences to VC++ and VB, has been a much larger
success than anticipated and now M$ want a piece
VB is easier to use!
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No, I didn't miss the intended sarcasm of the original remark. It just
triggered me into trying to find out what others though about the future of
Delphi.
One thought that I didn't put down in my original posting was that for
Delphi to survive it must surely attract new developers. With C#
I am also very pleased to see C#. It validates my decision to adopt Delphi
all those years ago! It will also, as you state, force the multitude to
become aware of the power of Delphi. However they will know it as the power
of C#! And having learnt C#, what gain is there in learning Delphi?
I am
Um, Delphi is pascal and pascal has been around for longer than 10 years...
Personally I would be disappointed if we were are still using the
languages
of today in 10 years time! It would mean that there had been little change
in the computer field...
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Um, Delphi is Pascal and Pascal has been around for longer
than 10 years...
[snip]
I think that as C++ is to C so is Delphi to Pascal. One of the reasons why I
found Delphi easy to learn was the thorough grounding in Pascal that I
received in University. These
se
Delphi?
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Who would. That isn't what Java is for right?
Although one of the articles noted that the MS Java VM was supposed to be
faster so maybe C# on desktops wont have the speed issue that Java has...
How many developers are writing Java for the desktop?
Tell me a company that relies on DOS applications that could make use of
pascal. In Australia (where I live) there are ocasional adds for pascal
developers. There are also adds for pascal developers in Britain. A lot
of companies in Britain still use Win 3.1 or DOS. I have spoken to several
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Patrick Dunford wrote:
What "advantages" does C# offer? it is targeted at the Internet - not
at desktops. Try comparing it to Java - which is the environment that
MS is targeting with .NET - not desktop environments !
I've been avoiding this thread, but I thought I'd ask
There was a download of the C# compiler on msdn about 2 months ago (I
guess). It had no IDE though and the download was still almost 90 meg (and
would only work under Win 2000 and IIS 5 - from memory). Although I think
there is a Visual Studio 7 Beta out now that can be downloaded (if you are
From: Martin Paulo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I am also very pleased to see C#. It validates my decision to adopt Delphi
all those years ago! It will also, as you state, force the multitude to
become aware of the power of Delphi. However they will know it as the
power
of C#! And having learnt
C# delivers fast executing and responsive graphical apps. The .Net
intermediate language (MSIL) is compiled to a native .EXE on the first run.
There is a once off delay, and then all is well. I don't see why Sun can't
do the same with Java...
US $18 gets you a beta CD from Microsoft.
If you know
Is Delphi Dead? IS DELPHI DEAD?
I'd respond with "Is Elvis dead?" 8-)
Delphi is only dead if Borland kill it, and then it'd take a few years
before it moldered completly away and became unusable.
From the Profax teams point of view Delphi biggest advantage is that its
an extensible environment
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Some excellent comments!
When I started using Delphi seriously Borland was in deep financial trouble,
and everyone was saying "don't touch Delphi - they'll be going under
soon...". My response was the point you make here - even it they did go
under and all Delphi support stopped, the
OFFTOPIC - I finally got a Linux distro to acknowledge my USB mouse,
soundcard and it lets me get on the internet as well. [Mandrake 7.2]
Excellent :) How are you finding linux with Mandrake?
I like KDE 2. It looks good and appears (to me) to run faster. Although
it automatically logs
Max
As always a clear head - Delphi is at such a critical mass now that
it would probably survive (a la Lazarus?)
and it not like your've gone out and tatooed "Borland Rule OK" on your
forheads have you?
No..but I was considering a Penguin
Neven
Neven MacEwan said:
and it not like your've gone out and tatooed "Borland Rule OK" on your
forheads have you?
No..but I was considering a Penguin
Hmmm, dangerous. Linux is good, but there are some very nice alternatives
waiting in the wings (concider Eros) that may take over in the one
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like KDE 2. It looks good and appears (to me) to run faster. Although
it automatically logs me into KDE which I don't like and be buggered if I
can find how to switch it off... I know one thing for sure - still got
lots to learn!
:) Odd,
Mark
John (also known as Man in Black - serious linux guru - looking over my
shoulder)
quipped that you have to change the default run level
from 5 to 3 (in the /etc/inittab file)
HTH
Neven
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From: Mark Derricutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list
Max Nilson wrote:
Neven MacEwan said:
and it not like your've gone out and tatooed "Borland Rule OK" on your
forheads have you?
No..but I was considering a Penguin
Hmmm, dangerous. Linux is good, but there are some very nice alternatives
waiting in the wings (concider Eros)
Try it for yourself. I still think you can download version 5 personal
edition free from there website. It installs onto your windows partition
as a single file and depending on whether you have 98 or NT you can either
start it directly in the OS or you use a boot disk. It was very different
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Neven MacEwan wrote:
quipped that you have to change the default run level
from 5 to 3 (in the /etc/inittab file)
Ahhh, my box boots runlevel 5 by default, always did, I remember on the
install there was a "automatically log in as user x on bootup - y/n"
option, I guess
Steve Peacocke wrote:
snip
Simply put, Delphi is a user interface addition to the Turbo Pascal
language. When I wrote The Trader Series (largest selling small business
accounting program at the time - mid to late 80's), I was able to release
onto the market an application that spanned
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