Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Rohit Gupta
The only hook is that when you stop subscribing, you are supposed to uninstall all the copies. :-) On 21/10/2010 6:27 p.m., Richard Vowles wrote: On 21 October 2010 18:02, John Bird johnkb...@paradise.net.nz mailto:johnkb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: I am grumpy about buying 8 versions of

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Marshland Engineering
Quote As a user of both Delphi 5 and D2007, you would have to be nuts to want to work in D5 if you spend any time programming. It works, and quite well, but D2007 and later are so much nicer, and faster to do stuff.If you value your time and are programming for anything returning money

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Jolyon Smith
One other thing on the Windows vs Delphi ownership experience. Since buying Delphi 7 a number of years ago, on a NUMBER of occasions when installing it on those new PC’s of mine I have had difficulty activating and thus being able to USE the software I bought. In the same period I had

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Cheng Wei (FMI)
...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 9:13 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials One other thing on the Windows vs Delphi ownership experience. Since

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread David Brennan
My comments in a lovely purple. ;-) From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 8:53 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Ø Aw nuts you are just being

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Todd
, 22 October 2010 8:53 a.m. *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Ø Aw nuts you are just being a stirrer. Why is pointing out facts considered stirring? You obviously have pretty strong feelings about it Jolyon but you jumped on John pretty hard

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Rodney Chan
(Jolyon Smith) 2. Re: Delphi Specials (Cheng Wei (FMI)) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 09:12:43 +1300 From: Jolyon Smith jsm...@deltics.co.nz Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Jolyon Smith
Adding green. J From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of David Brennan Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 09:55 To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials My comments in a lovely purple. ;-) From: delphi

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread David Brennan
I’m running out of colours! Maroon then. From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 10:38 a.m. To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Adding green. J From

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Alister Christie
of Windows. And I only have 1 pc at once... John *From:* Edward Koryagin mailto:ed_iv2...@yahoo.co.nz *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:42 PM *To:* NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List mailto:delphi@delphi.org.nz *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Wonderful questions. Edward Koryagin

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread John Bird
 John From: Jolyon Smith Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:53 AM To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Ø Aw nuts you are just being a stirrer. Why is pointing out facts considered stirring? I think the best answer to that is the one Josh

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Marshland Engineering
A bit of hot topic !! I would like to get an upgrade to keep current, but I only want the hamburger please. I also don't want an EXE that 5 times as big for the same program and complies in 3 times the time. I have two sets of neighbours with young kids. How do I get them to start

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread John Bird
I agree, something with real limitations but real usefulness. A Turbo version would be great. Possible ideas would be 1 – Executables only run on the PC with the Turbo licence. otherwise full version but cheap 2 – Executables have a built in expiry date of 1 year from when compiled.

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Jolyon Smith
Ø I am also a classical musician, and I can tell you as far as I know there is not a single case in history where any composer was guided, inspired or helped by a critic. Not a professional critic maybe – i.e. people who are paid only to criticise. I also am a musician – kinda (for “fun”

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Alister Christie
*From:* delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *David Brennan *Sent:* Friday, 22 October 2010 09:55 *To:* 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' *Subject:* Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials My comments in a lovely purple. ;-) *From:* delphi-boun

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Ian Gmail
I've watched the ongoing discussions re upgrading and costs .. I still use Delphi 5, and it supports the two products I have out there reasonably well. I say reasonably well, in that I'd love to move on to using SQL databases instead of Paradox, and to use the later features that improve my

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Alister Christie
Perhaps some sort of Delphi Code Camp or Code-a-thon? Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington On 22/10/2010 12:38 p.m., Ian Gmail wrote: I've watched the ongoing discussions re upgrading and

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Jan Bakuwel
Ok, I can no longer resist to add my two cents :-) And more recently (at the risk of getting sidetracked) Embarcadero have blown it again (imho) with addressing Unicode and 64-bit separately, creating TWO significant barriers to upgraders and also failing to make good on indications of

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread John Bird
?Maybe a related topic - How to make it easy to upgrade. The main reasons I hear from others for not upgrading are (with my experience in brackets): 1 - locked into 3rd party components with no new versions or expensive new versions [I luckily have steered clear of addon components, except

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Alister Christie
I'd like to see Mac, Linux 64 bit support. I'm now trying to make Delphi apps work using Wine/CrossOver on both Linux and Mac... with varying success. I had a surprising amount of success with Wine a few years ago - but didn't go anywhere with it. iPhone and iPad = Mac support (more or

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-21 Thread Jolyon Smith
The upgrading at zero cost as long as you have the source approach get's (potentially) sticky when going from a version pre-2009 (non-Unicode) to 2009 or later (Unicode). Cost of upgrading NZ$700 to upgrade software that earns you nothing is a lot of money of to spend every year (remember - we

[DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-20 Thread Marshland Engineering
I keep seeing all these specials, but for the 2-3 programs I write a year, Delphi 4 does the trick. It looks like Embarcadero keeps itself going with existing customers (which over time will diminish) with upgrades. Now if I was starting out from fresh, would I spend $3499 when there is a

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-20 Thread Edward Koryagin
Wonderful questions. Edward Koryagin --- On Thu, 21/10/10, Marshland Engineering marshl...@marshland.co.nz wrote: From: Marshland Engineering marshl...@marshland.co.nz Subject: [DUG] Delphi Specials To: delphi@delphi.org.nz Received: Thursday, 21 October, 2010, 3:03 PM I keep seeing all

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-20 Thread Kyley Harris
I like and have always like the Basic Pro Version.. everything else is just stuff I would rather buy from 3rd parties.. I want the focus to be on quality editors and compilers with a good core base code. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Marshland Engineering marshl...@marshland.co.nz wrote: I

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-20 Thread John Bird
- Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Wonderful questions. Edward Koryagin --- On Thu, 21/10/10, Marshland Engineering marshl...@marshland.co.nz wrote: From: Marshland Engineering marshl...@marshland.co.nz Subject: [DUG] Delphi Specials

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-20 Thread John Bird
fashioned “No-one ever built a statue of a critic” John From: Jolyon Smith Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:07 PM To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials Ø Well thats nuts. Which neatly described what followed, rather than what was being

Re: [DUG] Delphi Specials

2010-10-20 Thread Richard Vowles
On 21 October 2010 18:02, John Bird johnkb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: I am grumpy about buying 8 versions of Windows mainly because I couldn’t move the licences from PC to PC and until windows 7 the OS was pretty crap anyhow. I have however moved Delphi from PC to PC and been grateful to be