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> -Original Message-
> From: John Bird [mailto:johnkb...@paradise.net.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2011 10:00 a.m.
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_framew
07, 2011 9:35 AM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
I am surprised no-one has mentioned Python + a framework such as Django.
When I switched to web dev, Python/Django and C#/asp.net mvc were the 2
finalists. I went with C# simply due to the ease of
I am surprised no-one has mentioned Python + a framework such as Django.
When I switched to web dev, Python/Django and C#/asp.net mvc were the 2
finalists. I went with C# simply due to the ease of getting developers.
Don't use Delphi, it's entirely the wrong tool.
Sean
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what page was the problem?
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>Regards,
>Stefan
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>From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
>Behalf Of Rohit Gupta
>Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:22 AM
>To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
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e 06, 2011 7:22 AM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
Hi Stefan,
I havent implemented error logs yet.. But Google Analytics is telling me
strange things. Either you encountered a bug or you tried to break it ?
Which :-)
I am interested in kn
,
Stefan
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Neven MacEwan
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:22 PM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?
Rohit
I don't subscribe to your vie
phi-boun...@delphi.org.nz
[mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] *On Behalf Of *Rohit Gupta
*Sent:* Sunday, 5 June 2011 5:05 p.m.
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*Subject:* Re: [DUG] Web development
I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied
to MS. Its also ver
has to scale well beyond that limit then you could just loadbalance between
>> multiple servers and/or take facebooks hiphop project and cross compile your
>> PHP to much faster C-code (https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php).
>>
>>
>>
>> I choose C# over
tefan
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> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
> Behalf Of Rohit Gupta
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 2:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
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> I don
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I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply th
elphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to
MS. Its also very p
elphi 4 PHP a couple of years ago, but
never got to it (should I?).
John C
*From:*delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to
MS. Its also very p
elphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Rohit Gupta
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I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to MS.
Its also very po
I choose C# over PHP for other much more important reasons - speed
isn't the issue.
Stefan
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> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
> Behalf Of Rohit Gupta
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 2:07 PM
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> I dont find PHP slow a
June 05, 2011 2:07 PM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development
I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumb
I dont find PHP slow at all.
On 5/06/2011 2:20 p.m., Steve Peacocke wrote:
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
the blurb suggests that it may gave come a long way in recent years.
I have been using PHP because I did not want the server to be tied to
MS. Its also very popular. I started off with Delphi for PHP. But the
investment in learning it was wasted. The only thing I use it for is
for debugging now. There is no vcl in sight.
Had t learn PHP, javascript, HTML
Hope it helps,
On 5 June 2011 14:20, Steve Peacocke wrote:
> Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
> always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
> the blurb suggests that it may gave come a long way in recent years.
>
Php is
You could of course try Delphi Prism, if you want to be able to do asp
stuff, but in a language similar to Delphi (the Prism syntax is a little
different). It would save you having to learn C#. REM Objects seem to
be doing lots of other cool stuff with the language (a pascal compiler
for Java
Hi Steve
Have a look at the Symfony framework. It takes a little while to get
familiar with, but worth the trouble. It certainly helps you concentrate
on PHP business logic rather than HTML,CSS and javascript.
Cheers,
Todd.
> Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I h
Paul. A very informative reply thanks. Gary also suggested PHP but I have
always discounted it as slow and cumbersome. However reading through some of
the blurb suggests that it may gave come a long way in recent years.
I'm very familiar with HTML and somewhat familiar with small JavaScript piec
Hi Steve,
Approaching it from the delphi/pascal orientation first...(not meaning
pascal server side--and that is possible as well) ...
You'd find much in Delphi for Php that is very familiar.
It is built on top of an opensource framework " VCL for PHP", and
you'd probably appreciate E's familia
Can anybody tell how good 'Delphi For PHP' is?
John
> -Original Message-
> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-
> boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
> Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 4:35 p.m.
> To: List NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi
> Subject: [DUG] Web dev
> "Jolyon" == Jolyon Smith writes:
Jolyon> but in the end got fed up with wrestling with HTML and CSS
Jolyon> - working with those technologies is like stepping back in
Jolyon> time in terms to tools and "debugging" etc,
Really I would say that the available tools and capabi
Yep. Got the HTML JavaScript. Need more CSS knowledge. RoR still a serious
consideration but what about even 3rd party web VCL packs like TMS.
Movie about to start. X-Men, guess there's geek still in me somewhere.
Steve
On 3/06/2011, at 5:48 PM, Alister Christie wrote:
> I think RoR is a fa
Yes I've discounted PHP too. Basically I'm hoping I can do everything in
Delphi. However HTML, CSS & JavaScript are required and thankfully I'm ok with
all except CSS so only a bit of learning.
I also want to host on Azure or Amazon or whatever so we're heading in the same
direction there.
I
I think RoR is a fairly good choice and I've played with it a bit and am
impressed - bit of a learning curve from Delphi. Whatever technology
you choose, you'll likely need a good understanding of HTML, CSS and
JavaScript.
I don't think Intraweb is suitable for doing any serious web stuff -
a
d the available properties of a class or parameters for a
function.
Cheers,
Ross.
-Original Message-
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On
Behalf Of Berend de Boer
Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 4:52 PM
To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
Subject
I have been thinking about this myself.
I started trying to get to grips with PHP, but in the end got fed up with
wrestling with HTML and CSS - working with those technologies is like
stepping back in time in terms to tools and "debugging" etc, and I found it
frustrating and tiresome.
So at that
Thanks Berend,
I'm not doing this for a job but working on my on applications at home in my
spare time. I've been programming for many years but not as a job since
about 2005.
My next project will be totally web based and I've been thinking that I'd
need to make the move to RubyonRails at that po
> "Steve" == Steve Peacocke writes:
Steve> Perhaps others have a better suggestion? What do others
Steve> use? Should I bite the bullet and jump to RoR or upgrade to
Steve> D2011 or something else?
I mean, you're learning this for fun or for having a job? Not sure how
many RoR jo
> Is JSP actually deployed yet? Resources on Sun's site seem to be limited to
> a specification paper
Sun has a reference implementation on the same site :)
>
> Resources?
www.esperanto.org.nz
JSP FAQ.
JSP book (well, the startings of)
>
> Commercial implementations / development products?
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Nic Wise
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 1999 11:49
> To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
> Subject: Re: [DUG]: web development.
>
>
> Very true, tho there are other optio
looking at cold fusion 4 at
the moment. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
Cheers,
Matt.
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From: Siegfried Kirchmair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Multiple recipients of list delphi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [DUG]: web
Hi Matt,
I can only recomment webhub as I think its absolutely reliable and
performs well.
It does take a bit to get used to it but that pays back. I started
with ISAPI's and every minute spend on it was a waste.
cheers
sigi
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Very true, tho there are other options, which usually limit the
learning curve:
As usual, this is DEFINATLY IN _MY_ OPINION.
ASP - OK, it kinda limits you to NT, but so does anything using Delphi.
Very easy to use (IMO), quick etc. Can be used on Unix if you get
chilliasp.
JSP - Java-based
Matthew wrote:
> My question is how to go about programming dlls that run on the web server
> and return web page data. I guess this is pretty fundamental but I'm new
> at this.
> Any source code snippets or advice on any of this would be appreciated.
The best advice I can give you is to *not*
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