Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-04-18 Thread Shazron
gt; > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > *Rob Posener* > > > > 0419 012 627 > > > > > > > > On 29 March 2016 at 16:48, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com > <javascript:;>>

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-29 Thread Robert Posener
t; > *Rob Posener* > > > 0419 012 627 > > > > > > On 29 March 2016 at 16:48, Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am not sure if everyone got the attachment. Rob, can I request you > > to > > > > crea

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-29 Thread Jesse
t you > to > > > create an issue on https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss so that > we > > > could start following up on specific issues there ? > > > > > > From: Robert Posener <rposen...@gmail.com> > > > Reply-To: "dev@cordova.apac

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-29 Thread julio cesar sanchez
m/cordova/cordova-discuss so that we > > could start following up on specific issues there ? > > > > From: Robert Posener <rposen...@gmail.com> > > Reply-To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org> > > Date: Monday, March 28, 2016 at 10:08

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-29 Thread Robert Posener
6 at 10:08 PM > To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? > > Gerday all, > Because of the serious nature of this thread, I have produced a 6-page > contribution of issues together

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-28 Thread Parashuram N
e.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org> Date: Monday, March 28, 2016 at 10:08 PM To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org> Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Gerday all, Because of the serious nature of this thread, I have produced a 6

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-28 Thread Robert Posener
onding to JIRA quickly and acting on contributors' PRs could > > be candidates for improvement. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com] > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:18 AM > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-20 Thread Ryan J. Salva
Tools for Apache Cordova rsa...@microsoft.com 425 706 5270 office 206 612 5079 mobile -Original Message- From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:08 PM To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-19 Thread Joe Bowser
e candidates for improvement. > > -Original Message- > From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com] > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 11:18 AM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? > > I have been

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-19 Thread Joe Bowser
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jesse wrote: > Never trust people's answers when you ask them what they like! They are > almost always wrong, and will tell you what they think they like, or think > they will seem cooler if they liked. > > +1 It's interesting that

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-19 Thread Joe Bowser
il.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:08 PM > To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Never trust people's a

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-19 Thread Joe Bowser
t; -Original Message- > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:21 PM > To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Ryan J. Salva <rs

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-19 Thread Jesse
Never trust people's answers when you ask them what they like! They are almost always wrong, and will tell you what they think they like, or think they will seem cooler if they liked. > On Mar 17, 2016, at 5:04 AM, julio cesar sanchez > wrote: > > 2016 survey is

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-19 Thread Joe Bowser
270 office >> 206 612 5079 mobile >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:21 PM >> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers h

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-18 Thread Ryan J. Salva
ual Studio Tools for Apache Cordova rsa...@microsoft.com 425 706 5270 office 206 612 5079 mobile -Original Message- From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:21 PM To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2016-03-18 Thread Carlos Santana
gt; >> 425 706 5270 office > >> 206 612 5079 mobile > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:21 PM > >> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> > >

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-29 Thread Tammo Schimanski
Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Hello to all of you from Germany, i never wrote an e-mail to this list before but i want to tell you something about the situation over here. I started developing applications with Cordova two years ago. It wasn’t easy to understand

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-29 Thread Ryan J. Salva
Message- From: Tammo Schimanski [mailto:tammo.schiman...@cordova.de] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:17 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Hello to all of you from Germany, i never wrote an e-mail to this list before but i want

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-28 Thread julio cesar sanchez
I would like to bring this topic back because I've seen two things recently that worried me First one on the google group Frustration in the forum https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/phonegap/D7ydf_hNq-w Second one, increasing number of unanswered questions on stackoverflow (from

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-28 Thread Tammo Schimanski
Hello to all of you from Germany, i never wrote an e-mail to this list before but i want to tell you something about the situation over here. I started developing applications with Cordova two years ago. It wasn’t easy to understand how Cordova works and how it has to be used. The docs didn’t

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-28 Thread julio cesar sanchez
Hi Tammo, great iniciative! I tried to do the same for spanish speakers, but I rarely have time to write tutorials. not all german developers are able to ask a question in english (although you might thought that they are). Yeah, on Spain we are told that ALL other european contries speak

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-28 Thread Tammo Schimanski
Hey Julio, I already did some translation via Crowdin. For Plugins as also for the main files. But unfortunately i also don’t have enough time to do the translation for all plugins and the main files. :-/ Just had a look onto the prices for flights… i think, i can’t come, thats realy to

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-28 Thread Tim Barham
...@cordova.de] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:17 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Hello to all of you from Germany, i never wrote an e-mail to this list before but i want to tell you something about the situation over here. I started

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-08-28 Thread Frederico Galvão
Hi, I'm from Brazil, been working with javascript seriously since 2008, and have known and worked with cordova since 2012, and I'd also like to give my 50 cent on this. I won't dig deep in the topic right now (but I'm willing to), but I have said a few times that the issue with cordova is a

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-28 Thread Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH)
...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 8:57 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? I had similar ideas about writing some FAQs or posts. Great minds clearly think alike, right? ;-) (I’m joking. I know my mind… so not great… Wait

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-28 Thread Steven Gill
Message- From: Frederico Galvão [mailto:frederico.gal...@pontoget.com.br] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:11 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? As someone who has given a couple of local speechs and presentations about Cordova, I could say with some

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-22 Thread Frederico Galvão
@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? I had similar ideas about writing some FAQs or posts. Great minds clearly think alike, right? ;-) (I’m joking. I know my mind… so not great… Wait… that might actually be an insult to everyone else. The only way

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-13 Thread Josh Soref
Raymond wrote: Would it make sense - on the doc home page (Guides) to add a sentence at top, below the title Guides, that says: We should do something. You are reading the documentation for Cordova X. You can switch versions by using the drop down at the upper right. I don't think this is

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-13 Thread Josh Soref
So, I want someone to make this into a FAQ, somehow. I don't have time today, but it's a really great list. Bonus points for getting it Stickied at the top of StackOverflow. (obviously, it should include some explanation of how to correct these things, and thankfully most are pretty easy to

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-13 Thread tommy-carlos williams
If no one else has time to do something with this list by the time I get free of my current stress-pile (say a couple weeks from now), I would love to take a crack at it. An FAQ with not just the list, but actual solutions and examples would be a great resource. Even if someone else does it, I

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-13 Thread Raymond Camden
Like Tommy, I may steal some of these for blog posts - People is having troubles connecting with the server, some of them because use localhost as the url, others because they don't configure the whitelist properly, others for unknow reasons As for the debug one, I ask, Do you know how to

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-13 Thread Kerri Shotts
use a clone… From: Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com Reply: dev@cordova.apache.org dev@cordova.apache.org Date: April 13, 2015 at 8:18:39 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org dev@cordova.apache.org Subject:  Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Like Tommy, I may steal some

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Joe Bowser
Sent: ‎4/‎9/‎2015 9:00 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.orgmailto:dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Joe, Well I want to try again and see if we can get what we want, while at the same time without being punched in the face :-) Marcel, I know

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
[mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 9:28 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:13 AM Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: There are no powers

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Joe Bowser
and create sloppy/buggy UI's. Daniel Toplak -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread julio cesar sanchez
[mailto:ty...@drumpants.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:12 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org; Michael Brooks Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? I think what colors people's perception the most is the graphics and interaction performance of JS vs Native. Here's

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
-Original Message- From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 9:28 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:13 AM Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Carlos Santana
@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova applications is absolutely terrible. If you're inheriting

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Brian LeRoux
An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Andrew Grieve
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Carlos Santanamailto:csantan...@gmail.com Sent: ‎4/‎9/‎2015 9:00 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.orgmailto:dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Joe, Well I

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread julio cesar sanchez
@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova applications is absolutely terrible. If you're inheriting

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Raymond Camden
think it's a miracle that we haven't forked yet. Joe Ross Sent from my Windows Phone From: Carlos Santanamailto:csantan...@gmail.com Sent: ‎4/‎9/‎2015 9:00 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.orgmailto:dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Does Cordova have a problem

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Hazem Saleh
framework and create sloppy/buggy UI's. Daniel Toplak -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread José-Luc Voltaire
- Von: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Carlos Santana
@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova applications is absolutely terrible. If you're

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Raymond Camden
sloppy/buggy UI's. Daniel Toplak -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Raymond Camden
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:57 AM, julio cesar sanchez jcesarmob...@gmail.com wrote: - Some people read the wrong docs (they use cordova 2.9.1 because it's the latest they can download, but read the edge docs and things don't work as expected) Would it make sense - on the doc home page (Guides)

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova applications

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-09 Thread Stef
sloppy/buggy UI's. Daniel Toplak -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-08 Thread Andrew Grieve
Fun survey! Other highlights: The more things change, the more likely it is those things are written in JavaScript with NotePad++ on a Windows machine (theme: dark) using Git, and tabs instead of spaces. users who have 10,000 rep or more prefer spaces to tabs at a ratio of 3 to 1. On Wed, Apr

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-08 Thread Joe Bowser
Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova applications is absolutely terrible. If you're inheriting a Cordova application from another company, you're probably going to end up re-writing it and if you're an iOS

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-08 Thread Michael Brooks
and create sloppy/buggy UI's. Daniel Toplak -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form

Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-08 Thread Tyler Freeman
Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2015 17:56 An: dev@cordova.apache.org Betreff: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? Cordova is the most hated form of Mobile Development, because everyone can create a Cordova app, and the quality of most Cordova

RE: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy?

2015-04-08 Thread Dmitry Blotsky
: Re: Does Cordova have a problem making developers happy? I think what colors people's perception the most is the graphics and interaction performance of JS vs Native. Here's a few possible reasons: * They are basing their bias off Phonegap apps they saw 3 years ago. Even though it's improved so