[documentation-dev] Documentation Contribution

2011-09-08 Thread Paige Caras
Hello, I'm going to be trying your software and noticed that you need some documentation help. I've attached the link to my web-site as an introduction; I'd be glad to offer some pro-bono assistance if needed: http://www.prodocumentation.com/index.php?p=1_4_Documentation I look forward to pla

[documentation-dev] documentation

2011-09-05 Thread Mileva Loo
Dear Open Representative, I am a veteran of the computer industry. I started as a programmer and worked my way to Vice President of a small consulting company. I have written user handbooks for technical people as well as the end user. I am currently teaching English as a Second Language to inte

[documentation-dev] Documentation

2011-08-23 Thread Kavitha Balakrishnan
Hi, I am a Technical writer with 13 years' experience. I would like to contribute to this community by writing user guides and "how to" documents. How do I start? -- Thanks. Regards, Kavitha. Mobile: 9791060689 -- - To unsubscribe

[documentation-dev] Documentation mailing list for LibreOffice

2010-10-06 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
For those of you who may wish (as I do) to work on docs for LibreOffice as well as for OpenOffice.org, there is now a list called documentat...@libreoffice.org subscription with: documentation+subscr...@libreoffice.org digest subscription with: documentation+subscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org archiv

[documentation-dev] documentation project

2010-04-04 Thread An Haslam
Hi I am a proofreader and copy editor, but not a programmer. I would be interested in helping when the User Guide is at either the editing or proofreading stage. Ann Haslam - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documen

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation as part of marketing

2010-04-01 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Jean, Andy, Am Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:02:39 +1000 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber : > Andy Brown wrote: > > Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > >> I'll be writing some other notes to this list about this work, and > >> the organisation, and the help I would like to get from others, > >> and whether we should c

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation as part of marketing

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Brown
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Andy Brown wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'll be writing some other notes to this list about this work, and the organisation, and the help I would like to get from others, and whether we should change what we're doing, etc. Meanwhile, for anyone interested, the webs

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation as part of marketing

2010-04-01 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Andy Brown wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'll be writing some other notes to this list about this work, and the organisation, and the help I would like to get from others, and whether we should change what we're doing, etc. Meanwhile, for anyone interested, the website is: http://friendsofop

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation as part of marketing

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Brown
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I'll be writing some other notes to this list about this work, and the organisation, and the help I would like to get from others, and whether we should change what we're doing, etc. Meanwhile, for anyone interested, the website is: http://friendsofopendocument.com/ The

[documentation-dev] Documentation as part of marketing

2010-04-01 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
In a recent note I referred to the evaluation going on at OOo Marketing regarding the marketing plan, and the discussion thread on that topic. One of Lars's posts includes a reference to OOoAuthors: http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=29827 He says in that post: "Doc

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Translation Processes

2010-03-15 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Claire, Claire Wood schrieb: Hi Can anyone help me either tonight or tomorrow (Tuesday). I have a job interview on Wednesday and part of hte criteria is knowledge of documentation translation processes. Can anyone give me an indication of what it is at OOo so I can use that as an example?

[documentation-dev] Documentation Translation Processes

2010-03-15 Thread Claire Wood
Hi Can anyone help me either tonight or tomorrow (Tuesday). I have a job interview on Wednesday and part of hte criteria is knowledge of documentation translation processes. Can anyone give me an indication of what it is at OOo so I can use that as an example? Is there a place on the wiki that

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation FAQs - How to delete dictionaries that are not wanted

2010-02-11 Thread Jean Weber
many or most faqs are very out of date & need to be updated. Sometimes best solution is to write a sentence or two & point to another wiki page where it's discussed in detail. Or marked applies to version 2 or whatever is relevant. Or even deleted -- some go back to v1. -- Jean On Friday, February

[documentation-dev] Documentation FAQs - How to delete dictionaries that are not wanted

2010-02-11 Thread Claire Wood
Dear All I have added an item for discussion to the following link because I could not follow the instructions on the page. I think they refer to a previous version of OOo. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Writer/FormattingText/How_do_I_remove_the_dictionaries_I_don%27t

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation/Needs Rework - Trying to use the version control features for my word processing document, but some of the menu choices I've seen before do not appear. What's wro

2010-02-11 Thread Clayton
On 02/11/2010 01:35 PM, Claire Wood wrote: > Hi All > > Not sure if you want us to report whether something is old or not, so here > goes. > > I read through this question and followed the procedures. I think it is old > because 3.2 doesn't have those glitches, you can clearly see the menu > opt

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation/Needs Rework - How can I assign a macro to a key?

2010-02-11 Thread Clayton
On 02/11/2010 01:42 PM, Claire Wood wrote: > Hi All > > I've checked this document and it is OK. > Hi Claire. Thanks for looking over the FAQs :-) If you find one that is tagged to be checked for accuracy and style, and after you review it, you find it's OK, then you can remove the Wki code th

[documentation-dev] Documentation/Needs Rework - How can I assign a macro to a key?

2010-02-11 Thread Claire Wood
Hi All I've checked this document and it is OK. -- Best wishes Claire Wood

[documentation-dev] Documentation/Needs Rework - Trying to use the version control features for my word processing document, but some of the menu choices I've seen before do not appear. What's wrong

2010-02-11 Thread Claire Wood
Hi All Not sure if you want us to report whether something is old or not, so here goes. I read through this question and followed the procedures. I think it is old because 3.2 doesn't have those glitches, you can clearly see the menu options in the Edit Menu and Compare options. I'm not sure wh

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:02:16 +0100 Clayton wrote: > > From other wikis I'm used to expect Category Entries at the top of > > the page, not at the bottom. It makes life much easier ;-) > > Do you mean the [[Category]] entry? > > I don't think there is any rule one way or the other on the OOoWiki

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread T. J. Frazier
Somewhere along the line, people added Category coding to the bottom of the page.. ... It (bottom) is recommended practice on Wp, and Category shows up at the bottom of both preview and regular-view pages. -- /tj/ - To unsubs

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread Nino Novak
On Wednesday 25 November 2009 20:02, Clayton wrote: > > From other wikis I'm used to expect Category Entries at the top of > > the page, not at the bottom. It makes life much easier ;-) > > Do you mean the [[Category]] entry? Yep > I don't think there is any rule one way or the other on the OOoWi

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread Clayton
> From other wikis I'm used to expect Category Entries at the top of the > page, not at the bottom. It makes life much easier ;-) Do you mean the [[Category]] entry? I don't think there is any rule one way or the other on the OOoWiki. Somewhere along the line, people added Category coding to the

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread Nino Novak
On Wednesday 25 November 2009 18:54, T. J. Frazier wrote: > Nino Novak wrote: > >> # Documentation/DE/How Tos/Filme in Impress unter Linux ohne Java > > > > done. > > Maybe not quite. Still shows in Cat:Doc. :-/ From other wikis I'm used to expect Category Entries at the top of the page, not at

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread T. J. Frazier
Nino Novak wrote: # Documentation/DE/How Tos/Filme in Impress unter Linux ohne Java done. Maybe not quite. Still shows in Cat:Doc. -- /tj/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For addition

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread Nino Novak
On Wednesday 25 November 2009 15:38, Clayton wrote: > Nino: Would you be able to take care of correcting the categories on > the orphaned DE pages? > # DE/Documentation/OOo3 User Guides > # DE/Documentation/OOoAuthors User Manual done > # Documentation/DE/Dashboard/TestPage It's a l10n test Pa

[documentation-dev] Documentation Category cleanup

2009-11-25 Thread Clayton
I've been working my way through the Documentation Category,a nd am down to just a few more pages that need a proper home. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Documentation Nino: Would you be able to take care of correcting the categories on the orphaned DE pages? # DE/Document

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Format

2008-10-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
amaloney wrote: Did I use the incorrect forum for these? http://www.nabble.com/OOo3-Documentation-Margins-td20047732.html http://www.nabble.com/Documentation---US-Letter-Size-td20047589.html Al, I just looked at your questions. The PDFs of the OOo3 user guides produced by OOoAuthors are des

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Format

2008-10-20 Thread Frank Peters
amaloney wrote: Did I use the incorrect forum for these? http://www.nabble.com/OOo3-Documentation-Margins-td20047732.html http://www.nabble.com/Documentation---US-Letter-Size-td20047589.html There are numerous forums for OOo on the web but I would suggest that you use the "official" one: http

[documentation-dev] Documentation Format

2008-10-20 Thread amaloney
Did I use the incorrect forum for these? http://www.nabble.com/OOo3-Documentation-Margins-td20047732.html http://www.nabble.com/Documentation---US-Letter-Size-td20047589.html Al Maloney -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Documentation-Format-tp20073200p20073200.html Sent

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation of native language specialities

2008-09-29 Thread Uwe Fischer
On 09/28/08 00:43, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Uwe Fischer wrote: do you think we have enough documentation about using OOo in different languages, writing systems, locales? ... Jonathon Blake wrote a document titled OOo in a Multi-Lingual Environment, but I don't know where the latest iterat

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation of native language specialities

2008-09-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Uwe Fischer wrote: do you think we have enough documentation about using OOo in different languages, writing systems, locales? No, I don't think we have enough of that type of documentation. The application help just covers the very basics. Look for the index word "CTL" in the installed help

[documentation-dev] Documentation of native language specialities

2008-09-25 Thread Uwe Fischer
Hi, do you think we have enough documentation about using OOo in different languages, writing systems, locales? The application help just covers the very basics. Look for the index word "CTL" in the installed help, for example, or search for "Asian" keyword. This certainly is not sufficient i

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Arthur Buijs wrote: Jim Harris schreef: [...] But is the wiki the right way to go? How often will different versions of the different manuals be published for download. How will formatting work be done? The wiki involvs excellent tools for discussion and a really simplistic way of editing, but

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-24 Thread Arthur Buijs
Jim Harris schreef: [...] But is the wiki the right way to go? How often will different versions of the different manuals be published for download. How will formatting work be done? The wiki involvs excellent tools for discussion and a really simplistic way of editing, but the content is actua

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-24 Thread Arthur Buijs
Hi, Scott Carr schreef: Frank Peters wrote: Per Eriksson wrote: [...] I don't know how to handle document repository and versioning as such, collab.net does not appear to offer anything useful out of the box and mediawikis capabilities are very limited here, too. Maybe limited, but I th

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-23 Thread Elia DaRos
On 6/23/07, Jean-Francois Nifenecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frank Peters a écrit : > Per Eriksson wrote: >> But is the wiki the right way to go? How often will different versions > > I'm not sure but I would like to evaluate that. For some info types it > will definitely be the right way to

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-23 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Frank Peters a écrit : Per Eriksson wrote: But is the wiki the right way to go? How often will different versions I'm not sure but I would like to evaluate that. For some info types it will definitely be the right way to go (FAQs, Howtos, Application Help, all that modular stuff). I think a

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread marbux
On 6/20/07, Frank Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, if there is a way to view/download/print the entire "manual", there wouldn't be a need for PDF per se. All I'm saying is that we need an offline delivery channel that will enable users to download and print a manual (collection of pages). I

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Scott Carr
Frank Peters wrote: Per Eriksson wrote: I personally agree this is better than uploading files to issues. To be honest, I don't like the fact that we use issues to track docs anyway. Issuetracker is bulky and obscure. I would strongly vote for having a readily visible dashboard with links to p

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Joe Smith
Frank Peters wrote: ... Joe, thank you, thank you for bringing that up and pointing to the elephant. There is much truth to what you write and actually I think we need to revisit the documentation "strategy" for OOo, meaning how will we produce, maintain, and publish documentation. ... Readin

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Frank Peters
Jim, Frank, when you have time, please elaborate a bit for everyone about the conditions / situation ("case"), and reasons, you "still think that in this case, PDF is the way to go", specifically, the source (online) system and the benefits gained from the extra work of maintaining PDFs (perhaps

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Frank Peters
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I agree that topic size may actually be an issue. If you split books by chapter, the individual chapters may get too big to handle via wiki. Maybe you need to get more granular. I've started splitting some of the larger chapters of the OOoAuthors guides into sub-chapt

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Jim Harris
Frank, when you have time, please elaborate a bit for everyone about the conditions / situation ("case"), and reasons, you "still think that in this case, PDF is the way to go", specifically, the source (online) system and the benefits gained from the extra work of maintaining PDFs (perhaps on

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Jim Harris
I think you missed the part where I said "(or printed)". Jim >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:36:17 PM 6/19/2007 >>> Frank Peters wrote: > Jim Harris wrote: > > > In "... many users still value a [book-type] manual that they can download, > > print out and read offline. So there is still the need for

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Frank Peters wrote: I agree that topic size may actually be an issue. If you split books by chapter, the individual chapters may get too big to handle via wiki. Maybe you need to get more granular. I've started splitting some of the larger chapters of the OOoAuthors guides into sub-chapters,

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread jonathon
Per wrote: But is the wiki the right way to go? How often will different versions of the different manuals be published for download. a) If WikiMedia is used, one can archive key pages for a specific version of OOo. For example: * Stylist: * Stylist_1.0 * Stylist_1.1 * Stylist_1.2 * Stylist_1

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Peters
Per Eriksson wrote: But is the wiki the right way to go? How often will different versions I'm not sure but I would like to evaluate that. For some info types it will definitely be the right way to go (FAQs, Howtos, Application Help, all that modular stuff). of the different manuals be publis

[documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Frank Peters wrote: > Jim Harris wrote: > > > In "... many users still value a [book-type] manual that they can download, > > print out and read offline. So there is still the need for creating PDF > > files", I agree with the goals and premise, but not the conclusion. > > > > This is one of my "

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Peters
Per Eriksson wrote: I personally agree this is better than uploading files to issues. To be honest, I don't like the fact that we use issues to track docs anyway. Issuetracker is bulky and obscure. I would strongly vote for having a readily visible dashboard with links to project pages on the wi

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Peters
Jim Harris wrote: In "... many users still value a [book-type] manual that they can download, print out and read offline. So there is still the need for creating PDF files", I agree with the goals and premise, but not the conclusion. This is one of my "pet peeves" about most help-style document

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Jim Harris
In "... many users still value a [book-type] manual that they can download, print out and read offline. So there is still the need for creating PDF files", I agree with the goals and premise, but not the conclusion. This is one of my "pet peeves" about most help-style documentation: When the

[documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Frank Peters wrote: > Per Eriksson wrote: > > >> Sorry to bring up such a rude question... > > > > Thank you Joe, > > > > There is nothing I value higher than feedback! > > > > Scott Carr and Frank Peters, are there any possibilities to start > > looking for a Pootle-like web-based document man

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Peters
Per Eriksson wrote: Sorry to bring up such a rude question... Thank you Joe, There is nothing I value higher than feedback! Scott Carr and Frank Peters, are there any possibilities to start looking for a Pootle-like web-based document management solution? I personally agree this is better t

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Peters
I'm mostly a lurker here; I wish I had more time to contribute. As something of an observer, it seems to me that there's an elephant in the room. OOo--Writer is what we're talking about of course--is a fine tool for writing a book, or a PDF version of a book. But books, printed or PDF, are n

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Joe Smith wrote: > Per Eriksson wrote: > > ... > > First off, typographical conventions are great. They make the content > > easy to read, prevent that meanings are interpreted wrong and increase > > the readability. It also makes the documentation look better and more > > professional. Our documen

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Joe Smith
Per Eriksson wrote: ... First off, typographical conventions are great. They make the content easy to read, prevent that meanings are interpreted wrong and increase the readability. It also makes the documentation look better and more professional. Our documentation today use some conventions in

[documentation-dev] Documentation Look and Content

2007-06-19 Thread Per Eriksson
Hello! I have been thinking of the documentation that has been published by the community the last year, and have some thoughts to share with you all. Some thoughts have arisen when reading books on other areas aswell as Suns documentation for the StarOffice 8 product. First off, typographical co

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: OOoAuthors work is currently licensed under CC-BY 2.5 or later (we'll be progressively updating this to say 3.0 or later). I was thinking of that license, too. To allow for the possibility of this material being placed on the wiki with minim

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2007-04-04, at 17:02 , Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Frank Peters wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Frank Peters wrote: I would second Andre in allowing wiki pages to specify a license and have a default license for pages that do not specify the their license. That seems good to me, too...

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
G. Roderick Singleton wrote: Search just plain sucks. See http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=52046 In spite of the open issue, nothing has improved. Search on the main OOo website definitely sucks. Even if it worked well (which it doesn't) for the HTML pages on the site, I don'

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Frank Peters wrote: Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Frank Peters wrote: I would second Andre in allowing wiki pages to specify a license and have a default license for pages that do not specify the their license. That seems good to me, too... But I'd rather not allow for even the possibility of p

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Jonathon Blake
Andre wrote: > Initially, it will result in a significant decrease in the number of > FAQs. However, it will clear up the licensing issue. It should also > ensure that the information is applicable for current (2.0) versions > of OOo. If this is the only way, I'd rather live with the non-perf

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2007-04-04, at 14:10 , Andre Schnabel wrote: Hi Jonathon, Jonathon Blake schrieb: For Drew, Louis,etc: My suggestion would be: * Close down the wiki for a couple of weeks; * Add a script that requires a specific licence (or one of a set of licences) to be used for all material submit

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi André, On 2007-04-04, at 13:23 , Andre Schnabel wrote: Thus, "Content posted after [date] is Public Domain except where otherwise noted, in which case copyright holders may use the Public Document License (PDL), as noted in the License page of OpenOffice.org, http://www.openof

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Jonathon, Jonathon Blake schrieb: For Drew, Louis,etc: My suggestion would be: * Close down the wiki for a couple of weeks; * Add a script that requires a specific licence (or one of a set of licences) to be used for all material submitted; * Delete all existing content from the wiki; * Ope

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Jonathon Blake
Doug wrote: * My opinion: the OOo wiki is a public domain forum. I couldn't care The major problems with claiming public domain are: * Several major countries do not recognize the concept; * For countries that do recognize "Public Domain", putting material in the public domain from the date o

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts schrieb: That seems good to me, too... But I'd rather not allow for even the possibility of proprietary licenses on the wiki, which the wording suggested seems to permit, as does our current wording. Ie, I want open licenses. whatever is meant by proprietary lic

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 08:52 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > marbux wrote: > > +1. Copyrighted material can be parked on another site and linked from > > the wiki. > > Quite true, and that's more or less the situation we have now > with the Docs website: it links to material that for various >

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Frank Peters
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi, On 2007-04-04, at 06:10 , Frank Peters wrote: Andre Schnabel wrote: So, I'd be happy with posting something like, "Content posted after [date] is licensed in accordance with OpenOffice.org's license policy, which can be found at http://www.openoffice.org/licens

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, On 2007-04-04, at 06:10 , Frank Peters wrote: Andre Schnabel wrote: So, I'd be happy with posting something like, "Content posted after [date] is licensed in accordance with OpenOffice.org's license policy, which can be found at http://www.openoffice.org/ license.html. Content posted

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-04 Thread Frank Peters
Andre Schnabel wrote: So, I'd be happy with posting something like, "Content posted after [date] is licensed in accordance with OpenOffice.org's license policy, which can be found at http://www.openoffice.org/license.html. Content posted prior to this date is copyrighted Sun Microsystems and

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Louis, Louis Suarez-Potts schrieb: André S. corrected it (some scorching involved--we both cite the same issue, too) [0] and we returned to status quo ante. Except that I think that there needs to be copyright info that is better than what we have now but that we cannot retroactively dete

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le mardi 3 avril 2007 22:MM, marbux a écrit : Hi Marbux, > Like I said earlier, I have no work-around for the problem of > recycling wiki content, at least none that isn't pretty intricate. I > suspect that is why all wikis that can be edited by the public simply > ignore the problem. The downsi

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Louis Suarez-Potts
Hi, Sorry for entering this late; I don't always scan this list. We actually have (naturally) visited this issue. Early this year, it was brought to my attention that there was no really informative copyright information and guidance for the wikis, and the idea I and others had was that it

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
marbux wrote: +1. Copyrighted material can be parked on another site and linked from the wiki. Quite true, and that's more or less the situation we have now with the Docs website: it links to material that for various reasons can't go on the OOo website itself. Unfortunately, that's not the

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread marbux
On 4/3/07, DougT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Drew, You get all of my votes plus any extras I can find lying around. Frank, I understand your position, but not your resignation to the status quo. * My opinion: the OOo wiki is a public domain forum. I couldn't care less about what Wikipedia does

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread DougT
Drew, You get all of my votes plus any extras I can find lying around. Frank, I understand your position, but not your resignation to the status quo. * My opinion: the OOo wiki is a public domain forum. I couldn't care less about what Wikipedia does with their material. If people want to publi

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread marbux
On 4/3/07, Andrew Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been reading along silently and now I would like to make a comment. What the heck is all the fuss about? Look, why is this an issue at all - if you post to a public wiki it is in the Public Domain - maybe I am being naive but here is

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Frank Peters
Hi Andrew, It's a nasty situation and it's particularly irksome that this uncertainty hinders free development and doesn't help the user a thing. Frank Hi, I've been reading along silently and now I would like to make a comment. What the heck is all the fuss about? Look, why is this an is

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Andrew, Andrew Jensen schrieb: What the heck is all the fuss about? About legal issues :-( Look, why is this an issue at all - if you post to a public wiki it is in the Public Domain - maybe I am being naive but here is how I feel: maybe someone will come along and use something that I p

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Andrew Jensen
> It's a nasty situation and it's particularly irksome that this uncertainty hinders free development and doesn't help the user a thing. Frank Hi, I've been reading along silently and now I would like to make a comment. What the heck is all the fuss about? Look, why is this an issue at all

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Frank Peters
marbux wrote: Modify the editing screen on the wiki with licensing options. Specify the license you would prefer to have people use as the default. Give options to select other popular licenses or to specify a license that isn't in the small set of licenses listed with check boxes. Write a routi

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-03 Thread Frank Peters
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On 26 March 2007, Frank Peters wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I am thinking about moving doc content from elsewhere (eg OOoAuthors or my or others' own personal websites), where the existing material is under Creative Commons license. If such material could stay under

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-02 Thread marbux
Perhaps a way forward: Modify the editing screen on the wiki with licensing options. Specify the license you would prefer to have people use as the default. Give options to select other popular licenses or to specify a license that isn't in the small set of licenses listed with check boxes. Write

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-04-02 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On 26 March 2007, Frank Peters wrote: Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I am thinking about moving doc content from elsewhere (eg OOoAuthors or my or others' own personal websites), where the existing material is under Creative Commons license. If such material could stay under CC on the wiki, then tha

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-27 Thread Scott Carr
Frank Peters wrote: Andre Schnabel wrote: Hi, Frank Peters schrieb: Correct. But again - this situation is caused by the way, the wiki started. As it started without licensing resctrictions, only the Copyright is relevant. The wiki copyright page states "Copyright 1999-2007 by the contrib

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Peters
Andre Schnabel wrote: Hi, Frank Peters schrieb: Correct. But again - this situation is caused by the way, the wiki started. As it started without licensing resctrictions, only the Copyright is relevant. The wiki copyright page states "Copyright 1999-2007 by the contributing authors and Sun

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, Frank Peters schrieb: Correct. But again - this situation is caused by the way, the wiki started. As it started without licensing resctrictions, only the Copyright is relevant. The wiki copyright page states "Copyright 1999-2007 by the contributing authors and Sun Microsystems, Inc."

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Peters
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Frank Peters wrote: Creating new documentation content If we create new documentation content on the wiki, it must be created using the PDL to be compatible with doc.oo.o If the documentation *stays on* the wiki and is not moved to doc.oo.o, then it should not need to

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Frank Peters wrote: Creating new documentation content If we create new documentation content on the wiki, it must be created using the PDL to be compatible with doc.oo.o If the documentation *stays on* the wiki and is not moved to doc.oo.o, then it should not need to be created using the PDL.

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Peters
Hi André, [...] So that means that all pages on the wiki that currently don't have an explicit license note carry no license at all and that anyone who wants to reuse the content in any form needs to contact the copyright holder for approval? Correct. But again - this situation is caused by t

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Frank, Frank Peters schrieb: Andre Schnabel wrote: Interesting discussion, and necessary, too. We need to look at how we can make the wiki usable for documentation purposes either by changing the licensing of the wiki or the docs. I see no reason to change the licensing at the wiki, as t

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Peters
Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Andre Schnabel wrote, No -this does not answer any question. The wiki has been established without any licensing restrictions. Frank Peters wrote: We need to look at how we can make the wiki usable for documentation purposes Is there any reason why the wiki cann

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Peters
Andre Schnabel wrote: Interesting discussion, and necessary, too. We need to look at how we can make the wiki usable for documentation purposes either by changing the licensing of the wiki or the docs. I see no reason to change the licensing at the wiki, as there is no explicit license. So

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-25 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Andre Schnabel wrote, No -this does not answer any question. The wiki has been established without any licensing restrictions. Frank Peters wrote: We need to look at how we can make the wiki usable for documentation purposes Is there any reason why the wiki cannot contain a "user docume

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-25 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Frank, * Frank Peters schrieb: Interesting discussion, and necessary, too. We need to look at how we can make the wiki usable for documentation purposes either by changing the licensing of the wiki or the docs. I see no reason to change the licensing at the wiki, as there is no explicit

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-25 Thread Frank Peters
You seemed to have missed the point. Ok, but I beg your pardon. As I'm not a native english speaker could you make clear, what the point is? (Ok, I guess I know) What goes on the wiki is fine by me. However, as I pointed out, the only editable stuff permitted on the documentation project mu

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-25 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, G. Roderick Singleton schrieb: You seemed to have missed the point. Ok, but I beg your pardon. As I'm not a native english speaker could you make clear, what the point is? (Ok, I guess I know) What goes on the wiki is fine by me. However, as I pointed out, the only editable stuff per

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-25 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 17:12 +0200, Andre Schnabel wrote: > Hi, > > > G. Roderick Singleton schrieb: > > Further, as a member of the CC I recommend that you implement the > > changes necessary so that the documentation project can use material > > generated on the wiki. > > I cannot heal things

Re: [documentation-dev] Documentation wiki: license requirement?

2007-03-25 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, G. Roderick Singleton schrieb: Further, as a member of the CC I recommend that you implement the changes necessary so that the documentation project can use material generated on the wiki. I cannot heal things that have been missed whe the wiki started. So I cannot apply any licensing t

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