Re: [platform-dev] Localization bundles

2019-03-13 Thread Emilian Bold
http://bits.netbeans.org/download/apache-donation/ApacheNetBeansDonation3.zip I'm sure there's a corresponding URL on Apache infra but I can't find it quickly. --emi On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:55 PM Boris Heithecker wrote: > > Hi all, > where can I find the 3rd zip file donated from Oracle? Is

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project

2019-03-11 Thread Emilian Bold
+1 --emi On 2019/03/11 10:47:47, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > After a discussion amongst the Apache NetBeans community on the dev mailing > list[1], voting on a PMC chair[2], checking the podling status page[3], and > working through the maturity model[4], I would like to call a

How are we updating older users?

2019-02-19 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, Just saw an edit on https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README which mentions: > Modify updates.xml.gz file of previous release to contain url="https://netbeans.apache.org/download/index.html;>Apache NetBeans IDE 9.0 > is available! element in

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

2019-02-11 Thread Emilian Bold
> release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he didn't > > volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or should > > Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is > happy > > to do it. > > > > Gj > > &

Re: Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

2019-02-11 Thread Emilian Bold
I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime something else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release too. I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous RMs to ask questions. --emi On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga

Re: A question about volunteering

2019-02-08 Thread Emilian Bold
Yes, Tools > Options on Windows / Linux is moved to Preferences . --emi On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 5:01 PM Jeremy Cavanagh wrote: > Hi, > > Sadly, I am no Java expert so I don't feel I can make much of a > contribution. However, I have seen the call for help with reviewing > documentation. So, I

Re: Forcing download of binaries

2019-02-05 Thread Emilian Bold
Link works now so it was a temporary thing. We have http://status.osuosl.org/ that shows: Corvallis, OR -- Service Disruption so there was something there. --emi On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 4:38 PM Antonio wrote: > For information about the cause of an HTTP 503 response code please see > >

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-05 Thread Emilian Bold
Did you manage to digitally sign the EXE on Linux? On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 13:13, Neil C Smith wrote: > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 10:17, Mark Phipps wrote: > > It is NBI for several reasons: > > Thanks. Some thoughts inline. > > > 1. afaik it's the way that NetBeans IDE up to 8.2 was installed -

Re: Survey for Research on Lambda Expressions

2019-02-05 Thread Emilian Bold
Where will your agreggate data and final report be accessible under an acceptable license and no cost? Also, why do you need humans for your survey instead of looking at the codebase which is open source? On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:39, FERNANDO PETRULIO wrote: > Dear Apache devs, > I'm a

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-05 Thread Emilian Bold
> I believe that NBI has legs, at least as a way for NB Platform applications to fill the gap left by the demise of Java Web Start. As I have said before, I don't understand well how the NBI system works (yet - I am trying), but I can't see any good reason why it should be abandoned. I suspect

Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

2019-02-04 Thread Emilian Bold
gt; being > > distracted by release management -- though let's see how he responds to > > this idea. > > > > Many thanks for volunteering Emilian, and anyone else as well! > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:22 AM Emilian Bold > wro

Re: Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

2019-02-04 Thread Emilian Bold
-- though let's see how he responds to > this idea. > > Many thanks for volunteering Emilian, and anyone else as well! > > Gj > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:22 AM Emilian Bold > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > We never had a proper announcement abo

Who wants to be the release manager for NetBeans 11.0?

2019-02-04 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, We never had a proper announcement about the next release manager for NetBeans 11. I know that Laszlo mentioned wanting another go at it in his `Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0` thread. I also want to do NetBeans 11. I seem to remember that Junichi

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-03 Thread Emilian Bold
> DMG. It isn’t worth it when the problem is so easily avoided. > > Scott > > > On Feb 2, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > > > Oh, I saw this comment on > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/State+of+the+Apache+NetBeans+Inst

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Emilian Bold
ould be made. I doubt AdoptOpenJDK would get into favouring an IDE. But I get your idea --emi On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:57 PM Wade Chandler wrote: > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 15:43 Emilian Bold < > > > > > If Apache gets more lenient / clear on bundling I could also cr

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Emilian Bold
ackage with no bits changed except the additional JDK. Although I suspect the general idea is for Oracle or Amazon to do some JDK+NetBeans bundle release and not smaller projects. --emi On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 10:34 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 20:50 Emilian Bold > > &g

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Emilian Bold
elying on users manually installing / having Java would probably do. (Although, the trend is for Java to stop being something users install...) --emi On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 9:33 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 17:58 Emilian Bold > > I can share the CoolB

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Emilian Bold
the issues with the pkg vs. > dmg but I do think such a solution would be much nicer. > > Still, willing to help. > > Regards, > Carl > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:58 AM Emilian Bold > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I can share the CoolBeans installers

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Emilian Bold
i On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:32 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > Hello, > > I can share the CoolBeans installers but they are no big deal, not > sure if they are good enough for NetBeans... > > My macOS DMG uses a variation of the Carl J. Mosca script does > (Carl's script has a bug a

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, I can share the CoolBeans installers but they are no big deal, not sure if they are good enough for NetBeans... My macOS DMG uses a variation of the Carl J. Mosca script does (Carl's script has a bug as it assumes the location never changes; I would make a PR if I wouldn't have changed so

Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

2019-01-31 Thread Emilian Bold
I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair. --emi On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:29 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Wait. :-) I said preferably NOT me... > > Gj > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:19 PM Antonio Vieiro wrote: > > > +1 for Geertjan as PMC Chair! > > > > El El jue, 31 ene 2019 a las

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 1.0

2019-01-30 Thread Emilian Bold
+1 The pom looks good to me, a list of mailing lists, JIRA, etc. --emi On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:25 PM Eric Barboni wrote: > > Dear members of the Apache Netbeans community. > > > > In order to prepare release of Apache NetBeans maven Artefacts (RELEASE100 > and RELEASE090) as well as Apache

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0

2019-01-27 Thread Emilian Bold
-1 On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 23:39, Kenneth Fogel wrote: > 0 > > Ken > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03

2019-01-27 Thread Emilian Bold
+1 On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:50, John Kostaras wrote: > Vote: -1 > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 10:44, Matthias Bläsing > wrote: > > > Vode: 0 > > > > Am Freitag, den 25.01.2019, 19:51 -0800 schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

2019-01-27 Thread Emilian Bold
> Please everyone, go away from Connection JDK/Java with NetBeans. NetBeans is > for years an IDE for a lot more languages. [...] > Yes, I can understand that binding was in the past but that doesn’t make > sense anymore nowadays. +1 --emi On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 8:28 PM Christian Lenz

Re: Cannot compile NetBeans because of Gradle

2019-01-25 Thread Emilian Bold
That could be added to netbeans.osuosl.org. Not sure why are we downloading from another server... Do we keep the hash for that dependency? --emi On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 15:26, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > I on Linux, behind a corporate proxy. I could get though it with > nbbuild.*DownloadBinaries,

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

2019-01-25 Thread Emilian Bold
> Or should we change the apidocs, the maven artefacts ? Normally module versions are unrelated to the NetBeans version. So a NetBeans Platform app doesn't update versions the same way a Maven-based NetBeans Platform app (where for convenience we have only major versions like RELEASE82,

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

2019-01-24 Thread Emilian Bold
So now, both IntelliJ and Eclipse use calendar versioning (2019.03) but it seems crazy to suggest this for NetBeans? I guess this is also a branding strategy: be against the trends. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:58 PM

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

2019-01-24 Thread Emilian Bold
But then we need 51 voting threads! --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:44 PM Kenneth Fogel wrote: > > We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so that no one knows > what the most recent version is. For

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

2019-01-24 Thread Emilian Bold
Seems so odd to have multiple voting threads because Apache rules can't allow multiple options voting... I also want to include calendar versioning aka 'NetBeans 2019.03' on the voting list. So that makes 3 voting threads? --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

2019-01-24 Thread Emilian Bold
>From a branding perspective, 10 and 11 sound better. 'NetBeans 10', 'NetBeans 11' is like a big, memorable release. 'NetBeans 11.0' underlines the work-in-progress nature of it. (Of course, after 11.0 there must be a 11.1?) I think calendar versioning (there's even a site for it

Multi-lingual codebase

2019-01-22 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, NetBeans has a Scala support plugin which is, unsurprisingly, written in Scala. It would be quite awesome if our language plugins would be written in the specific language (and basically self-hosted in a way). This might give specific developers a better way to contribute, since

Re: Activating project type features in different project type

2019-01-22 Thread Emilian Bold
> At the end, I need to find a proper solution for that, I can’t be the only > one who has this problem. I already have it with 3 projects. You are literally the only one to have ever complained about this. At least from what I can remember. Having a user-configurable priority for project types

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-20 Thread Emilian Bold
better if we used approaches that > encourage contributing back, rather than approaches that discourage > contributing back. > > Jan > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 3:46 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > > > Is it really such a big deal? Google took chunks of IntelliJ IDEA a

Re: Separate convenience binaries

2019-01-20 Thread Emilian Bold
I'm curious what made you say this. Is it the download size or something else? Personally I'm finding the ergonomics module interesting as a technique but un-ergonomic for end-users. I'm not entirely certain it's even clear the modules are 'local'. And folks using the IDE for PHP are highly

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-20 Thread Emilian Bold
re to want to call it Apache NetBeans, they > would not be able to do so. > > Gj > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 12:07 PM Emilian Bold > wrote: > > > That's good. The thing about trademarks is not only that we must > > announce it, we must also defend it. > > > >

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-20 Thread Emilian Bold
.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16722198 > > > > Jan > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:54 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > > > >> Note that the Apache link is about trademarks. It makes no difference if > >> it's a

Re: build process

2019-01-19 Thread Emilian Bold
ant | tee logfile.txt (cd submodule; ant) --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 12:31 PM joe schmo wrote: > > I'll try again. Is there any documentation on the build process? I'm > wondering if there is a way to generate a

Re: Trying Out JDK Early Access builds

2019-01-18 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello Rory, I was about to ask about JDK 11.0.2 but I now see it's been released 3 days ago! Any place I should subscribe for these release announcements? Last I remember there were some blockers on NetBeans with JDK 11.0.1 so we have been waiting on 11.0.2 since last year. --emi

Re: SOE for embeding JS provider

2019-01-16 Thread Emilian Bold
Just a tangential note here. I always found the NetBeans concept of mime paths amazing and quite elegant in allowing embedded languages. I don't even know if newer approaches like Language Server Protocol support something like this. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java,

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-15 Thread Emilian Bold
else. Not any kind of a "modified" version. > > I am worried that if nothing like that is allowed, there will never be a > bundle of a JDK with "NetBeans" (as Apache cannot do it and others could > not as well). And "A bundle of a well-known programming pl

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-15 Thread Emilian Bold
nces to apache.org and our own specificities. > > Gj > > On Tuesday, January 15, 2019, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > And to give an example of NetBeans bundling: > > https://github.com/payara/ecosystem-netbeans-plugin/releases > > > > The Payara NetBeans ID

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-15 Thread Emilian Bold
ct” are not OK, as are names including > > “Spark” in general. The above links, however, describe some exceptions, > > like for names such as “BigCoProduct, powered by Apache Spark” or > > “BigCoProduct for Apache Spark”. > > > > > > Feliz Año, >

Re: Use Graal.js parser for NetBeans 11 was: Where is `Oracle JS Parser Implementation` built from?

2019-01-12 Thread Emilian Bold
just need the parser. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 9:05 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > > Wow, it's an issue I reported myself :-) > > --emi > > http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP an

Re: Use Graal.js parser for NetBeans 11 was: Where is `Oracle JS Parser Implementation` built from?

2019-01-11 Thread Emilian Bold
Wow, it's an issue I reported myself :-) --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 9:00 AM Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > > Dne pátek 11. ledna 2019 22:14:41 CET, Emilian Bold napsal(a): > > > This means that we could a

Re: Where is `Oracle JS Parser Implementation` built from?

2019-01-11 Thread Emilian Bold
://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:44 PM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > > Hi Emilian, > > Am Freitag, den 11.01.2019, 22:35 +0200 schrieb Emilian Bold: > > We suggest the plugin in NetBeans, but I don't kno

Where is `Oracle JS Parser Implementation` built from?

2019-01-11 Thread Emilian Bold
We suggest the plugin in NetBeans, but I don't know where the source for it is. The plugin we point to is http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/74901/oracle-js-parser-implementation I suspect it used to be part of the repository, so where is it? (I also remember a discussion about relicensing some

Re: Releasing command line tool for running NetBeans Java Hints

2019-01-08 Thread Emilian Bold
I didn't even knew this was donated. Any (other than historic) reason we keep it in a separate Git repository? We could have a release, should probably go much faster than the normal IDE release. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Tue, Jan 8,

Re: [FYI] Windows Launchers are part of the Build Process

2019-01-07 Thread Emilian Bold
Really nice! Only nlw.exe remains in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1157 --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 4:50 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > > Dear all, > > I've switched on the Windows launcher build as part

Re: [NBI Launcher] nbi/nlw.exe broken for OpenJDK 11

2019-01-06 Thread Emilian Bold
ally the needed libraries. In my opinion there > are no real debug compiler options set in the "Debug" configuration. The > Release configuration is not set up. > > Does someone see something missing or incorrect? > > What to do with the nlw.exe? Pull request? > > A

Re: Netbeans colors not accurate

2019-01-06 Thread Emilian Bold
Might have something to do with the terminal not implementing the full escape codes. I know it's nowhere near VT220. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Peter Cheung wrote: > > found out Netbeans colors not accurate >

Re: [NBI Launcher] nbi/nlw.exe broken for OpenJDK 11

2019-01-05 Thread Emilian Bold
--- > SPISim: [www.spisim.com] > EDA in Signal, Power Integrity and SIMulation > ------- > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 11:43 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > > > Maybe we are looking at different versions of JavaUtils.c but to me it

Re: [NBI Launcher] nbi/nlw.exe broken for OpenJDK 11

2019-01-05 Thread Emilian Bold
PS: I case somebody reads the thread, we used to have a nlw exe here https://github.com/emilianbold/netbeans-releases/tree/master/nbi/engine/native/launcher/windows/dist --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:10 PM Emilian Bold

Re: [NBI Launcher] nbi/nlw.exe broken for OpenJDK 11

2019-01-05 Thread Emilian Bold
Maybe we are looking at different versions of JavaUtils.c but to me it looks like it has a small parser and it expressly supports major versions with more digits: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/nbi/engine/native/launcher/windows/src/JavaUtils.c#L138 This has been fixed

Re: Absolute paths written to all-resources.dat which break the IDE if moved entirely

2019-01-04 Thread Emilian Bold
s.core.startup.layers/CachingPreventsFileTouchesTest/ > testCachesDontUseAbsolutePaths/ > > We don't test on Mac OS X as far as I know. > -jt > > > Dne středa 2. ledna 2019 0:22:29 CET, Emilian Bold napsal(a): > > If somebody downloads to ~/Downloads and st

Re: Automatic error reporting in pre-Apache NetBeans versions, going forward

2019-01-03 Thread Emilian Bold
create tickets on that portal? > > This would keep all issues in the same place, so we don't have 2 areas > where reporting is done? > > Regards > > John > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 21:21, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > I'm basically suggesting this since I have the infrastructur

Re: Automatic error reporting in pre-Apache NetBeans versions, going forward

2019-01-03 Thread Emilian Bold
not help us in the long run. > > So I would prefer a solution based on the NetBeans VM (where things like > synergy are hosted).. > > -Sven > > Am Do., 3. Jan. 2019, 21:25 hat Geertjan Wielenga > geschrieben: > > > I see no objection, sounds like a solution. > > &g

Automatic error reporting in pre-Apache NetBeans versions, going forward

2019-01-03 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, NetBeans used to have an automated mechanism where users could upload their errors directly from the IDE. I expect that all the error reporting will stop working for NetBeans 8.2 considering netbeans.org is moving to Apache infrastructure. I wonder if it wouldn't be valuable to redirect

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-03 Thread Emilian Bold
ood to acknowledge and promote this. > > I don't think something like "Built on Top of the Apache NetBeans > Platform" is contrary to the ASF tracemark policies. > > Cheers, > Antonio > > > El 03/01/2019 a las 12:04, Bertrand Delacretaz escribió: &g

Re: About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2019-01-03 Thread Emilian Bold
be when we see the trademark being used. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 12:13 PM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 4:32 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > > ...we should be proactive a

Re: Find Bugs Integration - which donation?

2019-01-02 Thread Emilian Bold
, 2019 at 10:03 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > > > Please note that SpotBugs is under LGPL, which is going to be tricky here. > > Even in 8.2 FindBugs was installed at runtime. Nothing different this > time if we put it outside Apache infra. > > --emi > > http://coolbeans.xyz

Re: Find Bugs Integration - which donation?

2019-01-02 Thread Emilian Bold
> Please note that SpotBugs is under LGPL, which is going to be tricky here. Even in 8.2 FindBugs was installed at runtime. Nothing different this time if we put it outside Apache infra. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:58

Re: [OT] What's happening to nbpython.org?

2019-01-01 Thread Emilian Bold
nbpython.org does not belong to Apache afaik. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:01 AM Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > > Hello, and a Happy New Year! > > As the Python source code will be donated to Apache NetBeans as part of >

Re: Absolute paths written to all-resources.dat which break the IDE if moved entirely

2019-01-01 Thread Emilian Bold
an't reproduce it with 8.2? --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 11:58 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > > I'm still investigating but it seems to me that under some conditions > absolute paths are saved in all-resources.dat (and the oth

Absolute paths written to all-resources.dat which break the IDE if moved entirely

2019-01-01 Thread Emilian Bold
I'm still investigating but it seems to me that under some conditions absolute paths are saved in all-resources.dat (and the other .dat files). Problem is that if the user moves the application to another folder (like from the Desktop to /Applications) then the IDE doesn't start because it can't

About the NetBeans brand and our trademark

2018-12-31 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, I believe it would be useful to read the Apache Trademark Policy https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ considering the discussions we are starting to have with installers. This paragraph seems relevant https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#products : > In general you may *not* use

Re: Add a search box for Netbeans customize toolbar dialog

2018-12-30 Thread Emilian Bold
Nice idea. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:08 PM Peter Cheung wrote: > > Hi All > Add a search box for Netbeans customize toolbar dialog, but not so > perfect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChHjw8nvRGA=youtu.be >

Re: output window in source

2018-12-29 Thread Emilian Bold
This might have something to do with the terminal library, which implements a subset of VT220. Maybe Maven started outputting more complex formatting. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 6:06 PM Peter Cheung wrote: > > hi >

Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0

2018-12-28 Thread Emilian Bold
You did a good job. I like the idea of giving feedback after being a release manager. Does Apache allow public betas and release candidates? Anything public has to be voted on so I don't see how it would help. "May you live interesting times" applies to releases too. More details to follow,

Re: trouble building netbeans 10

2018-12-27 Thread Emilian Bold
Please report which Ant version you are using. And if it's an Ant from Apache or some repackaged version in your OS distro. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 5:45 PM Brad Walker wrote: > > I'm trying to build Netbeans 10 and

Re: Resurrect: Summary of How/where exactly to host the NBMs for the 9.0 release

2018-12-27 Thread Emilian Bold
ttp://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:44 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > > On 12/26/18 11:23 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Considering the are no updates, why would we even serve the nbms? To > > older 8.2 installs or what? Won't

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 released

2018-12-26 Thread Emilian Bold
I already saw the announcement on Twitter (and the website is live), why the delay? --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:18 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > > I'm going to send out the official announcement letter tomorrow (for >

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-26 Thread Emilian Bold
://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 1:58 AM Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 12/26/18 11:56 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > >>> 1. If we were to create an installer for installing Apache NetBeans (i.e., > >>> no JDK included,

Re: Resurrect: Summary of How/where exactly to host the NBMs for the 9.0 release

2018-12-26 Thread Emilian Bold
Considering the are no updates, why would we even serve the nbms? To older 8.2 installs or what? Won't those older installs request the 10 nbms anyhow? So, I don't see how those nbms would get so many downloads. We can put the smaller updates.xml.gz anywhere, it won't make any impact on

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-26 Thread Emilian Bold
>> 2. Can Oracle or Amazon etc take NetBeans and then create an installer for >> its JDK and include NetBeans in that installer? >Yes, that's one of the main points of ALv2 :) Anyone can use/reuse our >software as they see fit, as long as they respect our trademarks, >patents, naming conventions

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-26 Thread Emilian Bold
> > 1. If we were to create an installer for installing Apache NetBeans (i.e., > > no JDK included, simply for installing NetBeans), could we distribute that > > from our Apache NetBeans site? > > See http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#compiled-packages > You can, with various notices

Re: My prio list for NetBeans 11

2018-12-25 Thread Emilian Bold
> Shall we have a wait period, then close these issues as invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce? +1 > Also just to mention one of the easiest way to contribute big to NetBeans is try to check if a bug is really reproducable, if not then ask back for more information. Indeed. --emi

Happy holidays everyone

2018-12-24 Thread Emilian Bold
And Merry Christmas! It's so nice that we finished the Apache NetBeans 10 voting by Christmas. Happy New Year to everyone! --emi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: Preparing release 10.0, final steps

2018-12-24 Thread Emilian Bold
(This process > wouldn't affect the regular release process we are in now.) > > On 12/24/18 11:51 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Oh, I didn't know we build the snap package. So next release we could > > include the snap binary in the normal release vote. If we vote on it and > >

Re: Preparing release 10.0, final steps

2018-12-24 Thread Emilian Bold
The steps sound good except the Snap convenience binary which I know is your baby but I still don't understand what binaries are there. The convenience binaries we distribute as Apache NetBeans are distributed by Apache infra and built by Apache servers and voted on. Not sure which of these is

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Ideally I would like Apache to make some policy changes. But now I also have a way to do what I believe it's best for the users and the end product regardless of what Apache decides. InnoSetup is good enough for a Windows installer. I guess it's possible to download the JDK as part of the

Re: Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Peter is continuing his quest of running OSGi modules inside the Platform (on top of Equinox / Netbinox). I know this since we talked about this in another thread but I understand how Geertjan might be confused. For me it's rather clear what the problem is but I don't really have the time to

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Well, this opens another discussion. I don't believe Oracle or Amazon could 'bundle' NetBeans for trademark reasons. They could, of course, create their own IDE based on Apache NetBeans. --emi On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 15:08, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Oracle itseld could bundle NetBeans with

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
> Gj > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:19 PM Emilian Bold > wrote: > > > Oh, that's a pretty big PR. I will try it next week and see if I can > > create an installer. > > > > PS: Are we even allowed to bundle a JDK under Apache? > > > > --emi >

Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Oh, that's a pretty big PR. I will try it next week and see if I can create an installer. PS: Are we even allowed to bundle a JDK under Apache? --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all,

Re: Feature functionality

2018-12-22 Thread Emilian Bold
> development it will be a learning experience to have product functionality > done by committee. I'll give it a shot though > > Bailey > ________ > From: Emilian Bold > Sent: December 22, 2018 5:23 PM > To: NetBeans Dev@ > Subject: Re: Featur

Re: Feature functionality

2018-12-22 Thread Emilian Bold
Maybe some people used to own specific areas but people move to new projects, new companies, etc. Only a fraction of the people that worked on NetBeans are active on the Apache mailing list. It's best to start looking at code, ask questions (or make small PRs) and see who answers :-) --emi

Re: FYI: binding / non binding

2018-12-19 Thread Emilian Bold
> We should consider PPMC votes binding for the *motion to release*, and IPMC votes binding for the *vote to release*. The PPMC has to motion (with 3x+1) the Incubator to release, so it's not as if the PPMC doesn't have binding votes...it's just not for the release, but for the *motion to

Re: Netbeans RCP App + JDK 12

2018-12-19 Thread Emilian Bold
I am bundling JDK 10.0.2. I am skipping JDK 11.0.1 as there were some bugs with it showing up for NetBeans but I'm not entirely sure it affects the Platform or just the IDE... Once JDK 11.0.2 is available I think I'll start bundling that. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5]

2018-12-18 Thread Emilian Bold
+1 (binding) Checked SHA512 (which should be listed in the email) and verified the GPG signature (the key is also on pgp.mit.edu). Built successfully on macOS with JDK 1.8: Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 10.0 (Build 20181219-unknown-revn) Java: 1.8.0_181; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM

Re: Regarding to Release Apache NetBeans 10

2018-12-18 Thread Emilian Bold
18 de diciembre de 2018 12:11 p. m. > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Regarding to Release Apache NetBeans 10 > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 17:58, Emilian Bold wrote: > > > > > Yes I know that, but it is still public and everyone can see it > > > > The parl

Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5] SHA1 Hash mismatch

2018-12-18 Thread Emilian Bold
> The SHA1 provided in the mail is exclusively for the README.md file. That SHA1 confused me too. The SHA512 for the release artefact seems quite essential. Somebody changing the artefact can easily update the hash too, but if the hash is publicly listed in the email then it's almost impossible

Re: Regarding to Release Apache NetBeans 10

2018-12-18 Thread Emilian Bold
> Yes I know that, but it is still public and everyone can see it The parliament proceedings are still (mostly) public for everyone to see, but people only really care about the final law. Laws also get various drafts, failed votes, last minute changes, etc. > The release section should be the

Re: OSGi support for maven-based plugins

2018-12-15 Thread Emilian Bold
n OSGi as I recall. > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 12:18 PM Matthias Bläsing > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Am Samstag, den 15.12.2018, 22:04 +0200 schrieb Emilian Bold: > > > I have not heard of any open-source projects with OSGi modules... > > &g

Re: OSGi support for maven-based plugins

2018-12-15 Thread Emilian Bold
> Kind regards > > Peter > > > Am 15.12.18 um 16:42 schrieb Emilian Bold: > > From the discussion back then there was no real problem because by > default > > we use Equinox (via the Netbinox fork). > > > > It's only the non-default Felix that's broken

Re: OSGi support for maven-based plugins

2018-12-15 Thread Emilian Bold
>From the discussion back then there was no real problem because by default we use Equinox (via the Netbinox fork). It's only the non-default Felix that's broken and I believe there was a patch for this which basically upgraded to a newer Felix version. --emi On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 at 16:08, Peter

Re: NetBeans release

2018-12-14 Thread Emilian Bold
Most certainly this year. --emi http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more! On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM mino...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I am just wondering whether we have a release date for NetBeans 10. > > Thanks, > Oleg > > On 2018/12/11 12:07:08,

Re: How to easily switch branches with all the schemas in enterprise/ ?

2018-12-11 Thread Emilian Bold
.12.2018, 15:51 +0200 schrieb Emilian Bold: > > > > I see a lot of DTDs and such in the enterprise cluster. > > > > This makes it hard to switch to another branch since git complains > > that: > > > > > error: The following untracked working tree fi

How to easily switch branches with all the schemas in enterprise/ ?

2018-12-11 Thread Emilian Bold
Hello, I see a lot of DTDs and such in the enterprise cluster. This makes it hard to switch to another branch since git complains that: > error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by > checkout A part of these DTDs (and XSD and MDD, etc) seem to be generated from

Re: WildFly plugin

2018-12-06 Thread Emilian Bold
Cool! --emi Pe 6 dec. 2018, la 10:04, Emmanuel Hugonnet a scris: > Hi, > I got a YES from our legal team to update our schemas to ASL 2.0 :D > I'll do that quickly so that we can incorporate those new schemas in the > plugin directly :) > Cheers, > Emmanuel > >> On 2018/11/22 10:19:15,

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