What is the code donation status?

2017-01-29 Thread Wade Chandler
All, It has been 26 days since the last status email of the code donation. Could we have perhaps a quick bi-weekly update just to keep us in the loop as well as interest up? Thanks much, Wade

Re: What is the code donation status?

2017-01-29 Thread Wade Chandler
Overall sounds great to me Geertjan! Especially the release repo news, and I certainly like the idea of a weekly update; I think something regular can help keep us all engaged and interested. Thanks much, Wade > On Jan 29, 2017, at 16:56, Geertjan Wielenga >

Re: Apache NetBeans (Incubating) Web Site Change Planning

2017-02-20 Thread Wade Chandler
ve the >> netbeans.org website checked out and am trying to see how to make the new >> Apache site structure as close to the original as possible -- while a lot >> of the original site is simply historic and can be omitted, i.e., it's >> mostly a question of transferring feature

Apache NetBeans (Incubating) Web Site Change Planning

2017-02-20 Thread Wade Chandler
formulate topics as well as point to and create JIRA tickets for us to take ownership and work on. Thanks, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com

Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-18 Thread Wade Chandler
+1 to using the process for everything. I too think changing the logo right now could be too early. It would be nice to use a clear process to allow for submissions before voting begins, which didn't happen as things were already in progress or with votes when broadcast if I remember correctly,

Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-18 Thread Wade Chandler
+1 to using the process for everything. I too think changing the logo right now could be too early. It would be nice to use a clear process to allow for submissions before voting begins, which didn't happen as things were already in progress or with votes when broadcast if I remember correctly,

Re: Re: Please vote for a new NetBeans logo

2017-02-19 Thread Wade Chandler
Does the current NetBeans site not use PHP and a Wiki? So, hand edited static content is going to be a task to rework later, as I assume headers etc are branded now using those technologies. As suggested in the thread specifically about this, there are things which we can investigate, along with

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Wade Chandler
Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Feb 15, 2017, at 08:25, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anyone any idea how the groovy guys are doing the documentation / website > stuff? > > Sven > > Am 15.02.2

Re: Slack vs dev list (was: Code contribution process.)

2017-03-01 Thread Wade Chandler
I understand the points on decisions being made on the mailing lists, but humans make these decisions, and as humans we often have dynamic and active discussions before such decisions are made or even brought to a more open or official forum. Sometimes a group may be working on a feature or a

Re: Slack vs dev list (was: Code contribution process.)

2017-03-02 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Mar 1, 2017, at 23:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > > And I wouldn't use such channels for feature discussion or even announcing > what I will work on next. I.e. "Can it be forgotten tomorrow, and we are > just as wise?” > Sure, my point on working on a feature from the

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
I think it already does mean something. Contributors have the right to actually vote, where as someone sending a patch doesn’t. Contributors can actually merge something in. Contributors get a massive deal on ApacheConf tickets. We have Apache user IDs and other items of access many don’t. But,

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
IDEs performance issues, versus modules with issues or some bug which needs tracked down and fixed. Modules allow the points above to be adhered to. I think these things are very important for people to understand when contributing. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandle

Re: Slack vs dev list (was: Code contribution process.)

2017-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
Isn’t that perhaps the way it has worked out in this case? I agree with the base premise of what you are saying, but wondering how it would bubble up in a different way. It really started off with us discussing the way some code works, and then led to some other conversations, and now has led

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
changes should perhaps be organized, there is a clear document to point to to back that up versus reiterating conversations which eventually lead to repetitive email threads; we all know people don’t actually search email lists :-) Wade > > --emi > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Wa

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
A PR can be very specific to one specific feature or fix; features and fixes can sometimes be fairly small. It could also be specific to a single facet of a larger feature or fix such as setting up some base library or adding some new and dependent API or SPI, or some set of changes which can

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
If nobody objects, I volunteer to setup a Wiki page, make a layout, and write up some things. Then, the community can review, add, remove, etc, and then make some decisions, and one decision may be we defer, but having something to look at to give a better idea of what we are all talking about

Re: Code contribution process.

2017-02-28 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Feb 28, 2017, at 05:17, Emmanuel Lécharny <elecha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Le 27/02/2017 à 17:17, Wade Chandler a écrit : >> I think it already does mean something. Contributors have the right to >> actually vote, where as someone sendi

Hello Apache World

2016-10-05 Thread Wade Chandler
I finally got subscribed. I had to figure out how to use the email alias I preferred, and by default it seems ezmlm parses out the main account the way Gmail sends. Anyways, if anyone else experiences this, the fix is to add -youralias=yourdomain.com (where = replaces @ in your alias email

Re: The various Apache NetBeans (incubating) mailing lists

2016-10-07 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 7, 2016 8:39 AM, "Emilian Bold" wrote: > > > There is another thing also: the sentiment of belonging. > > This is a really good point Bruno. > > My point is that it's much simpler for contributors to join Apache. We just > use another mailing list, use another

Re: Podling Report Reminder - November 2016

2016-10-28 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 28, 2016 1:25 PM, "Emmanuel Lécharny" wrote: > > > > Le 28/10/16 à 19:14, Emilian Bold a écrit : > > @Wade, you should be part of priv...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org. If not, > > I believe Geertjan or a mentor could add you there. > We can, it's just a matter for

Re: Podling Report Reminder - November 2016

2016-10-28 Thread Wade Chandler
All What is the plan for these reports in the interim? Are they to be filled out by the PPMC or the community or discussed here and filled in as a group? This has some suggestions http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html It also says the PPMC is initially the mentors and initial commiters,

Re: Graal.js

2016-11-08 Thread Wade Chandler
For the win! On Nov 8, 2016 10:45 AM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > An open question is the status of the ECMAScript 6 JavaScript parser and > its usage within the context of Apache NetBeans (incubating). > > Only a small fraction of Graal.js (the

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-06 Thread Wade Chandler
On Nov 6, 2016 5:31 AM, "Neil C Smith" wrote: > > On 6 November 2016 at 02:16, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > >> > Assuming the answer to my licensing question is no, then I'm > >> > interested in exactly how much nb-javac forks from javac and how > >>

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-06 Thread Wade Chandler
On Nov 6, 2016 5:26 AM, "Neil C Smith" <neilcsmith@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > On 5 November 2016 at 19:20, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Nov 5, 2016 2:00 PM, "Neil C Smith" <neilcsmith@googlemail.co

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-06 Thread Wade Chandler
On Nov 6, 2016 3:59 AM, "Niclas Hedhman" wrote: > > I give up. If you don't see that there is a difference between an operating > system and a JAR file (with the JRE somewhere in the middle), I am not > going to re-re-re-re-re-reiterate the view that we are not lawyers, and if

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-06 Thread Wade Chandler
On Nov 6, 2016 5:26 AM, "Neil C Smith" wrote. > > What I'm saying about maintainability is that changes in the internals > of OpenJDK have the potential to stop nb-javac from functioning. So, > while we, the NetBeans community, may be able to manage the code on >

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
I think there is “what can be at Apache; source or built artifacts” and “what can my platform application include in its final build; which isn’t at Apache; even if it uses an Apache license” and “how can Apache NetBeans help me package my dependencies, per my choices, regardless of Apache’s

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
On Nov 5, 2016 1:53 AM, "Niclas Hedhman" wrote: > > > Yes, I think we all understand the "end user interaction model" that you > have in mind to overcome the licensing issues. > > However, I am talking about licensing principles and how the ASF has > operated over the last

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
On Nov 4, 2016 11:27 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" wrote: > > > IMO the "can Apache projects rely on components under prohibited > licenses?" section of http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html applies, > and the key question is then whether the external component's license >

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
the majority of NetBeans being donated to Apache per the items discussed in this thread. Wade > On Nov 5, 2016, at 12:22, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > I think there is “what can be at Apache; source or built artifacts” and “what > can my platform a

Re: Defining "core" and "optional modules" in Apache NetBeans (incubating)

2016-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
I get the platform is in core. No doubt there. I do think there is some basic editing support which is core as well. It seems if NetBeans is both a platform and an IDE, or at least its popular notion and name suggest this, then there are some basic things people expect from an IDE. The IDE then

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-08 Thread Wade Chandler
The installer could even setup the directory, and an institution can copy that. The installer could also build other installers as another option; for private distribution by end users. Wade On Nov 8, 2016 5:11 AM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Yup. I'm sure

Re: Optional modules with GPL dependencies (was: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache)

2016-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
ar to me, but if one is limited, then chime in and contribute as one can IMO. > > > On 5 November 2016 at 16:45, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > Perhaps specific threads can be created to discuss the Java and JavaScript support in NetBeans (independently/maybe t

Re: Git @apache (was: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo)

2016-10-19 Thread Wade Chandler
I suggest we don’t bundle such things into a single repo from the start. Maybe the historic contrib, for a start, and even that broken apart later, but IMO, each plugin or set of them (in some cases) should have its/their own repo; make things specific. Too, we should discuss what contrib means

Re: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo

2016-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 14, 2016 5:38 AM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" < vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: >. > > In this context one repo has advantage as well, otherwise feature/issue branches have to be created in multiple repos. > I don't see it a bad thing to have to create multiple branches across repos.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo

2016-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 14, 2016 6:47 AM, "Emilian Bold" wrote: > > When we spoke about "teams" we spoke in the context of how NetBeans > developer from Oracle have been working on NetBeans. > > If you look at http://hg.netbeans.org/ there are multiple repositories with > the title "xxx

Re: Shallow git clones as an option to a split repository

2016-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Oct 14, 2016, at 07:06, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Hello, > > I've recently learned git allows 'shallow' clones that may contain no > history whatsoever. > > See the git clone manual , specifically > the --depth parameter. > > Obviously

Re: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo

2016-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 14, 2016, at 08:53, Emilian Bold wrote: > > This incubation is just the beginning of NetBeans under Apache. We don't > have to reinvent ourselves at once. > I agree with that. > Let's first see how people start contributing and if there is friction due > to

Re: README & commit workflow was: Git "temp" repository requested

2016-10-22 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Oct 22, 2016, at 12:31, Wade Chandler <cons...@wadechandler.com> wrote: > > I’m not even sure if that is possible with GH (GitHub). > > I mention this because even if we have infrastructure within ASF, aren’t GH mirrors 2 way streets where things can be merg

Re: README & commit workflow was: Git "temp" repository requested

2016-10-22 Thread Wade Chandler
Generally in full on open processes it isn't exactly "locked down", but instead there is a methodology followed by all to commit to some personal branch, then use PRs to get to some develop/development branch, where automation takes over, and then merge to master in some way. Things can go

Re: README & commit workflow was: Git "temp" repository requested

2016-10-22 Thread Wade Chandler
think the only direct “develop” or “development” branch commits should be to fix a broken build, if it is a couple lines, but otherwise, using PRs keeps things sane, and too, gives a nice historic record of sets of changes grouped as wholes, and that “whole” of a set of work is what is reviewed in a PR. W

Re: Submitting and Handling Github PRs

2016-10-23 Thread Wade Chandler
Great, thanks Ate. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Oct 23, 2016, at 10:48, Ate Douma <a...@douma.nu> wrote: > > I'm forwarding a reference about handling PRs from Suneel Marthi (mentor) > for the Streams podling, which IMO mi

Re: Initial code cleanup

2016-11-02 Thread Wade Chandler
This sounds like a good task for the wiki or Jira where we can break things down into tables or tasks. Maybe use Jira for those; it allows us to comment on them and assign etc. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Nov 2, 2016, at 15:49, Emilian Bold

Re: What to include/exclude in code donation to Apache

2016-11-03 Thread Wade Chandler
But let's not kid ourselves. Java support is very important to NetBeans future; one can't build plugins without it. Oracle has committed to 2 releases from what I read, but I think if I am reading right, then perhaps when JDK 9 support comes about nb-javac will be in NB main? Does that mean with a

NetBeans Community Slack Group

2016-11-03 Thread Wade Chandler
All We have a Slack group the NetBeans Dream Team started available for sign up here https://netbeans.signup.team if anyone is interested. It is assumed if any real time dynamic chats are needed, it easily works for that, but it is not to replace the wiki, Jira, nor the dev or user email lists.

Re: [DISCUSS] NetBeans Transition Status

2016-10-26 Thread Wade Chandler
Undoubtedly to some degree. However, the account referenced is interesting from a branding perspective; currently a negative IMO. Too, how does this work? https://github.com/apache/groovy https://github.com/groovy Thanks Wade On Oct 26, 2016 5:41 AM, "John McDonnell"

Re: [PROPOSAL] Split the main NetBeans repo

2016-10-13 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 12, 2016, at 15:23, Sven Reimers wrote: > > Hi all, > > what keeps me thinking is that there is actually always a difference > between modules that are now part of the main repository and "other" > modules (provided by the larger community), e.g. being a friend

Re: Download binaries from Maven

2016-12-14 Thread Wade Chandler
Wade On Dec 14, 2016 10:57 AM, "Emilian Bold" <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Isn't this precisely what we are doing? > > În mie., 14 dec. 2016 la 17:40 Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> a > scris: > > > Why not Ivy and Mav

Re: Aw: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2017-01-04 Thread Wade Chandler
beats me to it. Thanks Wade On Jan 4, 2017 6:28 AM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > OK, so the ticket is filed for setting up the website. What happens next? > > Thanks, > > Gj > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Wade Chand

Re: releases/ repository git conversion in progress

2016-12-29 Thread Wade Chandler
It will be interesting to see the size difference in repos. Thanks for all the hard work Emi! Wade On Dec 28, 2016 3:47 AM, "Emilian Bold" wrote: > NetBeans releases/ repository git conversion finished! Incrementally > pushing to GitHub https://github.com/emilianbold/releases

Re: Stripped changesets from the releases/ repo for the Git conversion

2017-01-03 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Jan 1, 2017, at 16:08, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Hello, > > Git does not support unnamed heads. > > The following changesets have been stripped from the Mercurial repository > while creating https://github.com/emilianbold/releases > > They seem to have no importance to me

Re: Aw: Re: http://netbeans.apache.org

2016-12-26 Thread Wade Chandler
Thanks Christian! I too was in the process of understanding exactly what to file, and had taken a bit; the final assumption was just file a ticket with the repo, and ask the question Daniel mentioned. I was looking to do it in the morning. Glad you were on it! Wade On Dec 26, 2016 8:37 AM,

How to edit the NetBeans Project Incubation Status Page?

2017-03-02 Thread Wade Chandler
This is what I’m referring to: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/netbeans.html The Wiki and Incubator Web Site are available for links. Are we to request access to the SVN repo or should we submit patches?

Re: Icons cleanup

2017-03-08 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 8, 2017, at 07:50, Neil C Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > On 7 March 2017 at 11:58, Jens Hofschröer wrote: >> https://github.com/nigjo/NBResourceManager >> >> this is only a quick attempt to outline the idea. Some parts are not finally >> done.

Re: @StaticResource was: Icons cleanup

2017-03-08 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 8, 2017, at 09:34, Jens Hofschröer wrote: > > Am 07.03.2017 um 14:58 schrieb Jaroslav Tulach: >> Please note that there already is a safe way to access icons by a key - it is >> the resource path. > Yes. And this ended up with a lot of PNG images named "*.gif". This only

Re: Icons cleanup

2017-03-06 Thread Wade Chandler
Jens, This sounds like a good/interesting approach; resource IDs. Is this something you could put together as a simple RCP example and share on Github, less any other code? i.e. permission to share that specific module, and then maybe it could be looked at, and then perhaps merged into NB

Re: Icons cleanup

2017-03-06 Thread Wade Chandler
Agree with this. Wade On Mar 6, 2017 10:35 AM, "Emilian Bold" wrote: > Single place for icons doesn't work well with respect to modularity. Sure, but the Platform is a self-contained entity. I don't believe Platform clients would mind having openide-icons or something

Re: Icons cleanup

2017-03-06 Thread Wade Chandler
omething more domain-specific it makes sense to have a design like this. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > Jens, > > This sounds like a good/interesting approach; resource IDs. Is this > something you could put together as a sim

Re: NetBeans and C++

2017-07-13 Thread Wade Chandler
to find it after reading this. The C++ support is one area I have been interested in once over at Apache. Thanks, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Jul 13, 2017, at 15:02, Vladimir Voskresensky > <vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.c

Re: NetBeans and C++

2017-07-13 Thread Wade Chandler
On Jul 13, 2017 3:19 PM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" < vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: On 13.07.2017 22:09, Wade Chandler wrote: > So is the C++ support being removed from Apache NB, and done as 3rd party > stuff from Oracle, or is there some way to make this work

Re: NetBeans and C++

2017-07-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Jul 14, 2017 3:23 AM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" < vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: On 14.07.2017 04:23, Wade Chandler wrote: > On Jul 13, 2017 3:19 PM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" < > vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: > > > On 13.07.2

Re: Please make more public APIs for 3rd-party-plugins available for languages NOT Java

2017-07-19 Thread Wade Chandler
, but they have limited 3rd party access to some things. I don’t have specifics up at the moment, but have answered enough questions over the years, to have had this gut feeling more than a few times. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Jul 19, 2

Re: NetBeans Apache Site Static Site Generator and Plan; Discussion

2017-04-27 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 07:26, Neil C Smith <neilcsmith@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:08 PM Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> > wrote:> > >>> I want to know if ssg can also help maintaining the site. (a bit of >>

Re: NetBeans Apache Site Static Site Generator and Plan; Discussion

2017-04-27 Thread Wade Chandler
On Apr 27, 2017 8:17 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: Hi, On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > ...I bring this up to have a conversation about it if needed, and then finally after that, to vote to ma

Re: NetBeans Apache Site Static Site Generator and Plan; Discussion

2017-04-24 Thread Wade Chandler
, "Emilian Bold" <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would vote for Jekyll because the repo will be mirrored on GitHub > and GitHub is also using Jekyll for GitHub Pages. So, lots of people > use it. > > --emi > > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Wade Ch

Re: NetBeans Apache Site Static Site Generator and Plan; Discussion

2017-04-24 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 16:02, Neil C Smith <neilcsmith@googlemail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:59 PM Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Did you read the page along with the points on content input or using .htm

Re: netbeans.org & netbeans.apache.org

2017-05-03 Thread Wade Chandler
On May 3, 2017, at 08:05, Eric Barboni wrote: > > I miss the point as I was only focused on tutorial part (NetCAT bias) but > subdomains like platform.netbeans.org hide more than only html page. > > These are subproject with member management, mailing list, wiki page, html >

Re: Against website split

2017-05-16 Thread Wade Chandler
Actually the platform can run modular systems without a user interface too. Too, Eclipse and NetBeans have both existed with the same terminology for years. I am not sure changing the name will fix people not knowing what it is, but will be costly to the project, and those building on it. But,

Re: Against website split

2017-05-16 Thread Wade Chandler
I do not necessarily agree they are separate projects. I think they are separate products. There is a NetBeans ecosystem, and I see much of what will be in the IDE and the platform, whether for 3rd party app usage, or the IDE, being pieces of that ecosystem. There are inevitably pieces that can be

Re: digest format of just the netbeans mailing list

2017-06-20 Thread Wade Chandler
Yep, worked as expected. There are instructions for digest format for specifically the list asked for help about. Wade On Jun 20, 2017 8:31 AM, "Wade Chandler" <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org will probably get the details. I > h

Re: digest format of just the netbeans mailing list

2017-06-20 Thread Wade Chandler
dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org will probably get the details. I haven't ran/sent it yet. Wade On Jun 20, 2017 8:02 AM, "Paul Deitel" wrote: How can I get just one email per day in digest format, rather than every single email sent to this list? I specifically

Re: [mentors] New e-mail list: net...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org

2017-05-23 Thread Wade Chandler
Netcat is a specific and special program allowing non-commiters to be extremely helpful contributors, which has been successful for well over a decade. This is just helping transition this process here: http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetCAT Wade On May 23, 2017 8:36 AM, "Mark Struberg"

Re: NetCAT registration requires login to non-Apache services

2017-06-02 Thread Wade Chandler
On Jun 1, 2017 4:02 PM, "Raphael Bircher" <rbircherapa...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Wade, Am .06.2017, 21:24 Uhr, schrieb Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org>: So when everything is full on at Apache, how can this be managed, > installed, changes applied etc? Where wil

Re: NetCAT registration requires login to non-Apache services

2017-05-31 Thread Wade Chandler
Jirka Is Synergy open sourced out in Github or else where? If I missed this in my reading apologies. If not, can it be? I have used this a lot, and very useful, but definitely not the same Synergy :-) https://github.com/symless/synergy Thanks Wade On May 31, 2017 1:02 AM, "Jiří Kovalský"

ASF hosted binaries collecting user data without an explicit opt-in; thread on gene...@incubator.apache.org

2017-06-06 Thread Wade Chandler
There is a thread on gene...@incubator.apache.org with the subject "ASF hosted binaries collecting user data without an explicit opt-in" we may need to pay attention to regarding Apache binaries uploading user data etc. Apparently there was also some discussion on legal, which I don't think I am a

Re: Current Status of Apache NetBeans Transition

2017-05-07 Thread Wade Chandler
On May 7, 2017 6:13 AM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: 3. Binaries -- all kinds of code is found inside binaries, e.g., launchers and installers, which we'd need to review before donating them to Apache, though donating them wouldn't make sense since Apache

Re: netbeans.org & netbeans.apache.org

2017-05-03 Thread Wade Chandler
A single site would have all the sources. If the domains point to the same paths, what specifically can not be redirected? Wade On May 3, 2017 5:20 AM, "Zoran Sevarac" wrote: > Just added there, and to put it here: > > >- Losing netbeans.org would result in huge loss of

Re: netbeans.org & netbeans.apache.org

2017-05-03 Thread Wade Chandler
My opinion would be to have sections of the site and redirect for netbeans.org domains to keep the links alive. There is also platform.netbeans.org and netcat and others I am sure, which redirect to internal sections now. We should check with infra if they can handle server side redirects for us

Re: netbeans.org & netbeans.apache.org

2017-05-03 Thread Wade Chandler
My point here is that it is a DNS redirect where netbeans.org, platform.*.org, etc are CNAME entries for netbeans.apache.org. Wade On May 3, 2017 5:44 AM, "Wade Chandler" <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > A single site would have all the sources. If the domains point to the

Re: NetBeans Apache Site Static Site Generator and Plan; Discussion

2017-05-02 Thread Wade Chandler
nts that will be plugged into the templates by the SSG. Those MD content files will make adding new articles and posts to the site fairly trivial IMO. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On May 2, 2017, at 09:53, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@g

Re: [legal] [mentors] Incorporating dendencies into the final JAR

2017-10-09 Thread Wade Chandler
If they are NB specific files that seems exactly like what should happen…the files be donated. Is that what you are saying Emi? Wade > On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:45, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Hello, > > For websvc.saas.api/ I see that 2 xsd files, which have the original

Re: NetBeans 9 release date

2017-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
Posting on top here. Regardless of an NB 9 release date, I think 2 things can be huge factors. 1) That not everything we give users comes from Apache NetBeans, but instead we make it super easy to link to projects build artifacts from the idea of the plugin center. IMO, Visual Studio Code is

Re: NetBeans 9 release date

2017-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 13, 2017 05:59, "Neil C Smith" wrote: In particular, it's no secret I think JavaFX is a dead-end. I'm not sure I foresee a time when either project moves UI to JavaFX - maybe I'm wrong. I have been pondering this as well, but I think that is for old

Should We Have A Users Email Address Now? (To start moving folks from the other lists who won't do dev, but may just ask questions)

2017-10-12 Thread Wade Chandler
All, The subject pretty much says it all. What do you think? I prefer being able to sort my email without having to rely on special subject additions by email users myself, and if we want to get folks to start moving here, I doubt many of those on nbusers will necessarily want to be on the dev

Re: Form files & manifest files headers was: [Mentors] Review my migration steps was: My first commit

2017-09-08 Thread Wade Chandler
ll it was said that non-Apache-licensed .form files should also be > supported. So always adding the Apache header is clearly inappropriate. > > If I understood better the process for creating and editing the .form files I > could make some suggestions. > > Regards, &

Re: Form files & manifest files headers was: [Mentors] Review my migration steps was: My first commit

2017-09-06 Thread Wade Chandler
Either way, I think doing what is suggested in these couple comments, and what Jarda is saying, are orthogonal. I feel we should take it as it is at the moment, as Jarda suggested, and if it isn’t supported, it isn’t. There is a license file for the project as a whole, and there are files in

Re: Allow code contributions or focus on release only?

2017-09-26 Thread Wade Chandler
That all sounds like a good strategy to me. +1 Wade On Sep 26, 2017 17:44, "Craig Russell" wrote: > I have no dog in this particular hunt, but if it were up to me I'd > prioritize: > > getting code into repositories with clean RAT reports > getting Netbeans to build and

Re: README and Blog

2017-09-30 Thread Wade Chandler
On Sep 29, 2017 05:31, "Geertjan Wielenga" wrote: OK, requested a new blog and ...snip The worst part about the Apache blogs IMO is the lack of mobile support when trying to view them on a phone. Undoubtedly the posts will be linked by Twitter and other mobile

Re: README and Blog

2017-09-30 Thread Wade Chandler
On Sep 30, 2017 5:34 PM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: Login there, i.e., create a user and password, tell me what your user name is and I can give you permission access to https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans Done. My Roller user name is "wadechandler". By the

Re: Introducing myself & stepping forward

2017-10-01 Thread Wade Chandler
Great to see you here Antonio! Wade On Oct 1, 2017 2:04 PM, "Antonio Vieiro" wrote: > Hi all, > > This is Antonio Vieiro, an old time NetBeans enthusiast based in Madrid, > Spain. > > I've been keeping an eye on the NetBeans incubator process for a > while. It seems

Re: Who is asfgit?

2017-10-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Does the Apache process allow merge from the PR itself on the GH side? If so, that seems a better approach to me. Too, considering a PR, from a submitters POV is generally an atomic operation, the logic in the PR should be addressed then merged as a whole. It would keep magic PR closing from

Re: Squashing, Git, PRs, and Maybe Other Processes

2017-10-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Fair enough indeed. It would be good if someone from infra or a mentor could tell us if PR merges work well enough from the Github side, unless you all have already been merging by clicking merge on them there, or if those merges have to be done through the ASF repositories and locally. Since I am

Re: Squashing, Git, PRs, and Maybe Other Processes

2017-10-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Thanks Emmanuel, comments inline... On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:11, ehsavoie wrote: > > Hi, > About squashing : having a single commit makes it easier to > - backport for maintenance > - revert Agree to a point there; it is definitely “easier”, having a single value,

Re: Should We Have A Users Email Address Now? (To start moving folks from the other lists who won't do dev, but may just ask questions)

2017-10-12 Thread Wade Chandler
right now, already. > > Gj > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > All, > > > > The subject pretty much says it all. What do you think? I prefer being > > able to sort my email without having to rel

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-03 Thread Wade Chandler
I imagine we should be able to some how move some of the old wiki bits to Confluence with scripting. Please feel free to add a section and some jira issues, and to take on some attempt at it. We probably also want to figure out which wiki pages are now to become part of the static site; I figure

Re: Kanban / Scrum / Boards

2017-11-16 Thread Wade Chandler
I would very much be in favor of this. See the email I sent in November with the Subject “Jira Epics, Boards, and Agile Management, and What Other Projects Are Doing”. At the moment, we also can not create Epics, and I think some of these big picture things would benefit from them. When we

Re: Kanban / Scrum / Boards

2017-11-16 Thread Wade Chandler
John, Do you know if we can also create Epics? Thanks, Wade > On Nov 16, 2017, at 17:07, John McDonnell wrote: > > I created a basic Kanban board there to get a starting point, I’ll look to > clean it up next week. > >

Re: Committer guidelines

2017-11-16 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Nov 16, 2017, at 16:42, Antonio wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if there're any guidelines for new committers. I assume that > the ones at https://netbeans.org/community/guidelines/ still apply after the > Apache donation. We could update that and add this to our

Need Extra Jira Permissions To Create Components for NetBeans in Jira

2017-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
In the NetBeans project in Apache Jira, I need to be able to create at least “website” as a component for managing some issues for that. Who up my permissions to be able to do that, or do we need to ask for that to be created? Thanks, Wade

Jira Epics, Boards, and Agile Management, and What Other Projects Are Doing

2017-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
All Jira supports agile concepts such as Epics and Kanban boards. What are other projects doing in these areas? It seems as best I can tell they are using these features in various ways; I see boards and epics etc. I would like to be able to create some boards for specific purposes or

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