Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 11.0
Great job, as always, Laszlo! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:22 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > > Dear all, > > I would like to thank you to be able to be the Release Manager of Apache > NetBeans 11.0! > > Thank you all, who contributed in this release either by code, documentation, > advice, or shared opinion! > > This cycle started a bit sleepy, either due to the new year's duties or due > to the exhaustion from over-carrying the 10.0 release. After we were over the > shock everything started to shape up nicely by end of February. > > As a release manager I found it a good practice not to do a release to > staging for every vote candidate we made and we could use the artifacts from > Jenkins directly. I still hope that it did not cause any trouble for the > Apache Infrastructure. I'd keep that for the future releases as well. > > I'm still not fond of the vote candidate name. The release actually matured > nicely vc1 - alpha, vc2 - beta 1, vc3- beta 2 and vc4 is an rc1 quality. If I > were not traveling through the world just at the end of our cycle, I would > have cut a vc5 as well to address the minor non-technical concerns were found > out during the voting cycle. > > Some Numbers: > > In this release we were resolving ~64 issues. 38 bugs, 13 improvement, 13 > tasks > > The release process right now consists of ~30 steps (two steps more than > 10.0), about the half of these steps requires changes in the release branch. > This sets our limit to about four releases in a year, which is not bad, but > we have that limit. > > I hope, I was documenting our work well enough, to make the job of the next > Release Manager easier. > > This was a though, but wonderful journey! Thank you everyone for their work > and support! > > Laszlo Kishalmi > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0 > > P.S.: Constructive feedback on the process and on my work are , as always, > welcome! > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 11.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]
+1, all steps verified successfully. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:41 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > This is our 4th voting candidate for the 11.0 release of Apache NetBeans. > This time everything went through my smoke tests, so let's vote on it. > > Apache NetBeans 11.0 (incubating) constitutes all clusters in the Apache > NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the > underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that provide > the Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy features of Apache > NetBeans. > > In short, Apache NetBeans 11.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE, > Java EE, PHP and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support. > > Build artifacts available here: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/ > > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and > NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are > the same as these: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/release110/README.md > > We are voting on: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-source.zip > > SHA512: > e1ffe7873142bf6718f4365480501bec81126dc8e90884ea74f0cbc5d86a034ae3182515c4b78ccb250786bf84774d600f0b9451a6c518f773ca611cf82e4197 > ./incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-source.zip > > KEYS file: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS > > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 11.0-vc4 : > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/11.0-vc4 > > Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the > rat-exclusions.txt file: > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/release110/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt > > Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: > > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/404/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > > Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes > (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans): > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-bin.zip > > SHA512: > 9d7fbe5c6bcf781fc1d3f8e2aee62db0435dd716c60dc73ef900ee2817473cc5b0a8e12c1453b7e57aedcece70cff778673a8cf563c1fa4eea816d9636955d4b > ./incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-bin.zip > > Release specific wiki page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0 > > How (and what) to try out the release: > > 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it. > 2. Check that the artifact does not contain any jar files, > save the: > platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar > and > enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/nottaDir-4_1_2.jar and > enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/subdir/nottaDir-5.0.jar which > are only jars by their name > 3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file > 4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact. > 5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the > build process. > > > This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and -1 > as usual. This vote round would determine if we carry on this release to > the next IPMC vote . Binding votes are going to be carried over. > > Thank you for the hard work! > > Laszlo Kishalmi > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0 > >
Re: Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans
I have code that I've been working on to add Java EE 8 support to NetBeans (mainly modifying maven-j2ee module and a few others), but I have been unsuccessful in making it work properly, thus far. Once I get it to a fully functional state then I plan to submit a PR. I'm still working on the code, but I can certainly try to publish it to my GitHub account if someone else would like to try and help out. After we are able to add Java EE 8 support, we need to document exactly what needs to be updated in order to add support for a new platform release. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Mar 17, 2019, at 5:10 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Definitely too late for all that for this release, though would be > excellent if we were to have a full specification for what we need to > enable us to say that we support Java EE 8, here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Feature+Request+Outlines > > Gj > >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:07 AM Vano Beridze wrote: >> >> I've been using Maven and Adam Bien's archtype in NetBeans 8.2. >> >> By Java EE 8 support I mean: >> 1. Java EE 8 web maven project support natively >> 2. Support for generation of various xml files (web.xml, persistence.xml, >> ...) with correct headers >> This is what comes to my mind at this point. >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga >> wrote: >> >>> Seems to me that if you're using Maven, which is more strongly the focus >> of >>> NetBeans than before, that it's not clear what "Java EE 8 support" means. >>> I.e., if you use a Java EE 8 Maven archetype[1], such as Adam Bien's >>> archetype, and deploy to GlassFish 5.1 (which you can download and start >>> from Apache NetBeans 11), then you in fact have Java EE 8 support and >>> nothing more is needed. >>> >>> >> http://www.adam-bien.com/roller/abien/entry/java_ee_8_essentials_archetype >>> >>> It's not clear to me what else is needed for Java EE 8 support, except if >>> you're focused on Ant, which Apache NetBeans 11 is not. Maybe for the >> next >>> release, i.e., 3 months from now, assuming quarterly releases, we should >>> determine what Java EE 8 support means. >>> >>> For now, the fact that we are managing to integrate Java EE from the >> Oracle >>> donation for the first time, is a big step forward in itself. >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM Vano Beridze >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm really interested in getting Java EE 8 support in NetBeans. >>>> Is there any way I can help in that regard? >>>> >>>> Vano >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:36 PM Josh Juneau >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Geertjan, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for reaching out. I had made the required changes to >> j2ee.core >>>> and >>>>> I've re-built my version of NetBeans, but the "Java EE 8" options are >>>> still >>>>> not appearing in the drop-down selections. I've successfully added >>> "Java >>>>> EE 8 API Library" and "Java EE 8 Web API Library" as selectable >>> libraries >>>>> within the Ant Library Manager, but still unable to get the >> integration >>>>> within the project dialogs. I'm working on that and plan to open a >> PR >>>> with >>>>> all required changes once I've gotten it to work. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and I'll keep the group posted. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How is it going with this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gj >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:30 PM Josh Juneau >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Excellent, thanks Geertjan! I'll take a look. I appreciate your >>>> help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It seems to be in j2ee.core, probably for both. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project
+1 On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 5:48 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > After a discussion amongst the Apache NetBeans community on the dev mailing > list[1], voting on a PMC chair[2], checking the podling status page[3], and > working through the maturity model[4], I would like to call a vote for > Apache NetBeans graduating to a top level project. > > Apache NetBeans entered the incubator on October 1, 2016. Since then, we > have announced 2 releases, nominated several new committers, participated > in conferences and events, have 99 contributors with 2,423 commits, and -- > most importantly -- have grown and diversified our community. Apache > NetBeans is a healthy project that is already acting like an Apache top > level project, so we should take the next step. > > If we agree that we should graduate to a top level project, the next step > will be to draft a Resolution for the PPMC and IPMC to vote upon. > > Please take a minute to vote on whether or not Apache NetBeans should > graduate to a Top Level Project by responding with one of the following: > > [ ] +1 Apache NetBeans should graduate. > [ ] +0 No opinion > [ ] -1 Apache NetBeans should not graduate (please provide the reason) > > The VOTE is open for a minimum of 72 hours. Per Apache guidelines[5] I will > also be notifying the incubator mailing list that a community vote is under > way. > > Thanks, > > Geertjan > on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC > > [1] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8724c66eb22c1ceea81160968cb5ae68fdc2180f46fbbfaab16b4ce9@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E > [2] > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e0ecae84ac6e4a097a34ce7b2afe0e987e403fe32269fb3903895bbc@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E > [3] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/netbeans > [4] > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans > [5] > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Prepare for Apache NetBeans 11.0 vc3
Thanks Geertjan and Laszlo, I haven't had lots of time to work on the "Java EE 8" support, unfortunately. I will try to pick this up and see what I can do in the next couple of days though. I'll keep the group updated on progress. On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 9:05 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Ah, also, Java EE 8 needed in drop-down in Java Web projects (Josh?) is > needed to get clarity on. > > Gj > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Excellent mail and timing. For me, the big remaining problems, that > should > > not be hard to fix, are about Node.js debugging (discussed with Jess and > > Pete yesterday on dev) and the broken reference in Ant Java Web projects > > (reported by several) for which there is a simple workaround and Ant > isn’t > > our main focus anymore anyway. > > > > So, hoping those will be done after vc3 or in worst case for next > release. > > I believe we’re looking pretty good and should consider vc3 being the one > > that we put forward for real voting, i.e., it could be our release > > candidate, even without the above two fixed. > > > > And if we push ahead to vote on becoming top level project, we might be > > able to avoid IPMC vote — i.e., I will put a vote thread for top level > > project together, after first a discussion thread about this, to sketch > out > > what that vote means before we actually vote. > > > > So, bring on vc3! > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2019, Laszlo Kishalmi > > wrote: > > > >> Dear all, > >> > >> First of all thank you for the increased activity, PR-s are getting > >> approved and merged! > >> > >> Initially we started this release cycle with about one week slide, I > >> think cutting a vc3 tomorrow with at least 11 new PR included would put > us > >> back on the track. > >> > >> Please also start to concentrate on our blocker issues! I'm going to > send > >> out a more detailed summary on them after this mail. > >> > >> Please remember: > >> > >> Whatever PR you feel is needed to be included into the release shall be > >> marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub! > >> > >> > >> Laszlo Kishalmi > >> > >> Volunteer RM of Apache NetBeans 11.0 > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Running GlassFish Under vc2 - Must use JDK 8
Nice work Pete! Thanks for confirming and digging into the code looking for the fix. Let me know if you need me to try and help with anything. Best Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Mar 2, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Pete Whelpton wrote: > > I was able to replicate - but in my case, after starting GF from withing > NB, running netstat -tnlp at the console showed the GlassFish had started > listening on 8080 (and navigating to http://localhost:8080 proved it), but > NB wasn't opening the GF log window, or recognizing that it had started. > > Had a dig around in glassfish.common.LogViewMgr, and found that it is > calling ResourceBundle.getBundle() for "sun.util.logging.resources.logging" > so that it can get translations for WARNING and SEVERE messages in the > user's local language and monitor the log for these problems. > > But in JDK9+ java.logging module doesn't export sun.util.logging.resources, > so this will fall over. I think that's at least one of the issues starting > GF when running NB on > JDK9 > > > HTH > > P > >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 10:24 PM Josh Juneau wrote: >> >> Sure thing Geertjan, I think your solution is perfect for this release. >> Essentially, if you are developing Java EE applications then run NetBeans >> under the same version of the JDK that you are using to run the server. At >> this point it is JDK 8. Hopefully within the year we will see some servers >> running on JDK 11. Come to think of it...OpenLiberty may already run on >> JDK 11...I'll have to test that out at some point. >> >> In any case, I will perform some tests with a fresh user dir, and fresh >> everything, this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes. >> >> Josh Juneau >> juneau...@gmail.com >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >> >>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >> wrote: >>> >>> Also, a simple solution may be to explicitly tell users to run Apache >>> NetBeans 11 on JDK 8 if they want to make use of GlassFish, since >> GlassFish >>> itself runs on JDK 8 only and that if, as has been pointed out, code that >>> is explicit to JDK 9 or later is run on GlassFish, it will fail. So best >> to >>> use JDK 8 for both NetBeans and GlassFish. >>> >>> How does that sound? >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:05 PM Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Again, please, do this: fresh user dir, fresh everything, start >> GlassFish >>>> from inside NetBeans, close NetBeans, restart NetBeans, refresh the >>>> GlassFish node. >>>> >>>> Just confirm the above works so that we can go from there -- i.e., don't >>>> start GlassFish anywhere other than in NetBeans, then restart, then >> refresh >>>> the GlassFish node. Yes, not ideal, not what we want, but please can you >>>> confirm the above works so that we're all on the same page. >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 8:54 PM Josh Juneau >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've confirmed that the same issue occurs under vc1, unfortunately. I >>>>> had not fully tested vc1 under JDK 9/10/11/12, only used running under >> JDK >>>>> 8. >>>>> >>>>> Running NetBeans 11 vc1/vc2 Under JDK 9/10/11/12: If you start up >>>>> GlassFish and then open up the IDE, the controls for starting/stopping >> the >>>>> GlassFish instance are grayed out. If I attempt to open the GlassFish >>>>> domain log within the IDE, nothing happens. There is NO green arrow >> icon >>>>> to indicate that the GlassFish instance is running. >>>>> >>>>> Running NetBeans 11 vc1/vc2 Under JDK 8: GlassFish can be controlled, >> as >>>>> expected. If I start GlassFish and then open the IDE, a green arrow >> icon >>>>> is displayed on the GlassFish server icon...indicating that it is >> already >>>>> running. I am able to open the GlassFish domain log within the IDE and >>>>> interact with the server, as expected. >>>>> >>>>> Again, this is confirmed under OSX 10.13.x using JDK 8u171. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>> >
Re: Running GlassFish Under vc2 - Must use JDK 8
Sure thing Geertjan, I think your solution is perfect for this release. Essentially, if you are developing Java EE applications then run NetBeans under the same version of the JDK that you are using to run the server. At this point it is JDK 8. Hopefully within the year we will see some servers running on JDK 11. Come to think of it...OpenLiberty may already run on JDK 11...I'll have to test that out at some point. In any case, I will perform some tests with a fresh user dir, and fresh everything, this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Mar 2, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Also, a simple solution may be to explicitly tell users to run Apache > NetBeans 11 on JDK 8 if they want to make use of GlassFish, since GlassFish > itself runs on JDK 8 only and that if, as has been pointed out, code that > is explicit to JDK 9 or later is run on GlassFish, it will fail. So best to > use JDK 8 for both NetBeans and GlassFish. > > How does that sound? > > Gj > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:05 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Again, please, do this: fresh user dir, fresh everything, start GlassFish >> from inside NetBeans, close NetBeans, restart NetBeans, refresh the >> GlassFish node. >> >> Just confirm the above works so that we can go from there -- i.e., don't >> start GlassFish anywhere other than in NetBeans, then restart, then refresh >> the GlassFish node. Yes, not ideal, not what we want, but please can you >> confirm the above works so that we're all on the same page. >> >> Gj >> >>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 8:54 PM Josh Juneau wrote: >>> >>> I've confirmed that the same issue occurs under vc1, unfortunately. I >>> had not fully tested vc1 under JDK 9/10/11/12, only used running under JDK >>> 8. >>> >>> Running NetBeans 11 vc1/vc2 Under JDK 9/10/11/12: If you start up >>> GlassFish and then open up the IDE, the controls for starting/stopping the >>> GlassFish instance are grayed out. If I attempt to open the GlassFish >>> domain log within the IDE, nothing happens. There is NO green arrow icon >>> to indicate that the GlassFish instance is running. >>> >>> Running NetBeans 11 vc1/vc2 Under JDK 8: GlassFish can be controlled, as >>> expected. If I start GlassFish and then open the IDE, a green arrow icon >>> is displayed on the GlassFish server icon...indicating that it is already >>> running. I am able to open the GlassFish domain log within the IDE and >>> interact with the server, as expected. >>> >>> Again, this is confirmed under OSX 10.13.x using JDK 8u171. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Josh Juneau >>> juneau...@gmail.com >>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >>> >>>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Try to start it, close the IDE, then refresh the node after restart. >>>> >>>> Yes, not ideal, but please try to see if that works so we can figure it >>> out >>>> further from there and so we can confirm that it actually can start, >>> though >>>> after the above steps. >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:46 PM Jose Ch wrote: >>>>> >>>>> To be clear I used JDK 8 for the Platform option for Glassfish and >>> Payara >>>>> and JDK 11/12/13 for Netbeans and never successfully started them. I >>> will >>>>> try many combinations with different vendors (but always use JDK 8 for >>> the >>>>> app servers) as soon as I get the chance this weekend. >>>>> >>>>> José. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 12:34 Geertjan Wielenga >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> GlassFish does not support anything beyond JDK 8. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gj >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2019, Jose Ch wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The same happens to me in Fedora 29, but I never tried with JDK 8 >>>>> always >>>>>>> with JDK 11/12/13 and never successfully start payara or glassfish >>>>> within >>>>>>> t
Re: Running GlassFish Under vc2 - Must use JDK 8
I've confirmed that the same issue occurs under vc1, unfortunately. I had not fully tested vc1 under JDK 9/10/11/12, only used running under JDK 8. Running NetBeans 11 vc1/vc2 Under JDK 9/10/11/12: If you start up GlassFish and then open up the IDE, the controls for starting/stopping the GlassFish instance are grayed out. If I attempt to open the GlassFish domain log within the IDE, nothing happens. There is NO green arrow icon to indicate that the GlassFish instance is running. Running NetBeans 11 vc1/vc2 Under JDK 8: GlassFish can be controlled, as expected. If I start GlassFish and then open the IDE, a green arrow icon is displayed on the GlassFish server icon...indicating that it is already running. I am able to open the GlassFish domain log within the IDE and interact with the server, as expected. Again, this is confirmed under OSX 10.13.x using JDK 8u171. Hope this helps. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Mar 2, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Try to start it, close the IDE, then refresh the node after restart. > > Yes, not ideal, but please try to see if that works so we can figure it out > further from there and so we can confirm that it actually can start, though > after the above steps. > > Gj > >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 7:46 PM Jose Ch wrote: >> >> To be clear I used JDK 8 for the Platform option for Glassfish and Payara >> and JDK 11/12/13 for Netbeans and never successfully started them. I will >> try many combinations with different vendors (but always use JDK 8 for the >> app servers) as soon as I get the chance this weekend. >> >> José. >> >> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 12:34 Geertjan Wielenga >> wrote: >> >>> GlassFish does not support anything beyond JDK 8. >>> >>> Gj >>> >>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2019, Jose Ch wrote: >>>> >>>> The same happens to me in Fedora 29, but I never tried with JDK 8 >> always >>>> with JDK 11/12/13 and never successfully start payara or glassfish >> within >>>> the IDE. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 10:04 Geertjan Wielenga >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I’ve started GlassFish v5 and v5.1 from the Servers node with Apache >>>>> NetBeans 11 vc1 without a problem several times. To check whether >> this >>> is >>>>> specific to vc2 or specific to you, can you try with vc1 (instead of >>>> vc2)? >>>>> >>>>> Gj >>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2019, Josh Juneau wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Pete, I will put something in the JIRA. Just wanted to >>> confirm >>>>> that >>>>>> someone else was seeing the same issue first. I'm running on Mac >> OS >>> X >>>>>> 10.13.6. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:46 AM Pete Whelpton >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Doh! I did notice whilst I was poking around in the GlassFish >> code >>>> that >>>>>> the >>>>>>> base64 package that is removed from JDK10 onwards was being used >>>>>> somewhere >>>>>>> in authentication, so hopefully it is something as simple as >> that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If not, it might be beyond my abilities, but if you create an >> issue >>>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>>> Jira, hopefully somebody more talented than I can take a look and >>>>> figure >>>>>> it >>>>>>> out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019, 15:41 Josh Juneau, >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Pete, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the write-up. I have verified, and I already have >>> JDK8 >>>>>>>> registered as an available platform. When I right-click on >>>> GlassFish >>>>>> -> >>>>>>>> Properties, the JDK 8 platform is already selected under the >> Java >>>>> tab. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've verified on vc2 that JDK 10, JDK 11, and JDK 12 seem to be >>>>>>> exhibit
Re: Running GlassFish Under vc2 - Must use JDK 8
Thanks Pete, I will put something in the JIRA. Just wanted to confirm that someone else was seeing the same issue first. I'm running on Mac OS X 10.13.6. On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:46 AM Pete Whelpton wrote: > Doh! I did notice whilst I was poking around in the GlassFish code that the > base64 package that is removed from JDK10 onwards was being used somewhere > in authentication, so hopefully it is something as simple as that. > > If not, it might be beyond my abilities, but if you create an issue in the > Jira, hopefully somebody more talented than I can take a look and figure it > out. > > > P > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019, 15:41 Josh Juneau, wrote: > > > Hi Pete, > > > > Thanks for the write-up. I have verified, and I already have JDK8 > > registered as an available platform. When I right-click on GlassFish -> > > Properties, the JDK 8 platform is already selected under the Java tab. > > > > I've verified on vc2 that JDK 10, JDK 11, and JDK 12 seem to be > exhibiting > > the same behavior for GlassFish server. I have had success starting the > > server from within the IDE, but I am unable to open up the server domain > > log or perform restart, stop, or terminate from within the IDE. > > > > Thanks again > > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:22 AM Pete Whelpton > wrote: > > > > > Hi Josh, > > > > > > Apologies if this is stating the obvious and you have already tried it > - > > > away from computer at the moment and can't test myself, but have you > > tried: > > > > > > * Launching NB under JDK11 > > > * Right click GlassFish instance -> Properties > > > * Java tab -> Manage platforms button > > > * Add JDK8 > > > * Select JDK8 in dropdown > > > * Close dialog and try starting GlassFish > > > > > > ? > > > > > > Hope that works! > > > > > > P > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Josh Juneau > wrote: > > > > > > > I have noticed that using vc2, and running NetBeans on JDK 11 or 12, > my > > > > registered GlassFish server will not start from within the IDE. I am > > > > unable to manage GlassFish (or Payara) from within the IDE unless I > > start > > > > NetBeans under JDK 8. If I start up NetBeans under JDK 8 things seem > > to > > > > work without issue. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else experienced this same behavior? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Josh Juneau > > > > juneau...@gmail.com > > > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Running GlassFish Under vc2 - Must use JDK 8
Hi Pete, Thanks for the write-up. I have verified, and I already have JDK8 registered as an available platform. When I right-click on GlassFish -> Properties, the JDK 8 platform is already selected under the Java tab. I've verified on vc2 that JDK 10, JDK 11, and JDK 12 seem to be exhibiting the same behavior for GlassFish server. I have had success starting the server from within the IDE, but I am unable to open up the server domain log or perform restart, stop, or terminate from within the IDE. Thanks again On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:22 AM Pete Whelpton wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Apologies if this is stating the obvious and you have already tried it - > away from computer at the moment and can't test myself, but have you tried: > > * Launching NB under JDK11 > * Right click GlassFish instance -> Properties > * Java tab -> Manage platforms button > * Add JDK8 > * Select JDK8 in dropdown > * Close dialog and try starting GlassFish > > ? > > Hope that works! > > P > > On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 3:08 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > I have noticed that using vc2, and running NetBeans on JDK 11 or 12, my > > registered GlassFish server will not start from within the IDE. I am > > unable to manage GlassFish (or Payara) from within the IDE unless I start > > NetBeans under JDK 8. If I start up NetBeans under JDK 8 things seem to > > work without issue. > > > > Has anyone else experienced this same behavior? > > > > Thanks > > > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Running GlassFish Under vc2 - Must use JDK 8
I have noticed that using vc2, and running NetBeans on JDK 11 or 12, my registered GlassFish server will not start from within the IDE. I am unable to manage GlassFish (or Payara) from within the IDE unless I start NetBeans under JDK 8. If I start up NetBeans under JDK 8 things seem to work without issue. Has anyone else experienced this same behavior? Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
+1 Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Mar 1, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: > > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the > best choice to complete that process. > > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair > > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1. > > -- > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?
I just verified under NetBeans 10 that I'm able to compile a Maven-based Java EE project under JDK 11 without issues, and deploy to Payara 5 running on JDK 8. So the same issues reside across NetBeans 10 and 11. In my opinion, I agree that this is problematic. I just deployed this WAR containing a reference to a JDK 11 feature (isBlank()) and it deploys fine, but I receive errors indicating NoSuchMethodError when the server attempts to run the code. The complete newbie is going to be frustrated by this, no doubt. It would be great if NetBeans would flag a project that is set to deploy to a Java EE 8 server if the JDK source version is greater than JDK 8. I've been digging into NetBeans javaee and j2ee modules to try and add this support into the IDE. I will likely not be finished in time for vc2 though. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:11 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > All great, but the fact remains that a complete newbie will download Apache > NetBeans 11 and will probably have whatever the latest JDK is, e.g., JDK > 12, will then put together a 'hello world', will then want to deploy... and > then discover that an additional JDK is needed, i.e., JDK 8, to start > GlassFish. I.e., a complete newbie will most likely be required to have two > different JDKs -- and most likely only discover this when deploying their > application. Not very nice, all this. > > Gj > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:59 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > GlassFish requires a JDK because it does not include one. One must > utilize > > a JDK in order to start up GlassFish server. > > > > It sounds like the Maven-based web application is starting up without > issue > > because in this case GlassFish must be configured to start under a > > specified JDK 8 installation (not the one indicated within the NetBeans > > project). Therefore, the project is compiling under the specified JDK in > > NetBeans (in this case JDK11) and deploying the resulting WAR file > without > > issue to the GlassFish server that is running under JDK 8. > > > > I just compiled a Maven WAR under JDK 12 in NetBeans and deployed to > > GlassFish 5.1 running on JDK 8. It seemed to work without issues. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:13 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > wrote: > > > > > OK, nice, in some ways. > > > > > > What's a bit unfortunate is that one can't select a JDK in the New > > Project > > > wizard for New Web Applications -- whatever JDK is used to start > NetBeans > > > is assigned to the newly created Java Web application. > > > > > > The above is true for Ant-based projects and Maven-based projects. > > Somehow, > > > that's ignored in Maven-based projects, which run without a problem on > > > GlassFish 5 despite the JDK being JDK 11. So the question comes back to > > -- > > > what does GlassFish need the JDK for if it can be ignored, apparently, > > when > > > a Maven-based Web application is able to start up without a problem > even > > > though it has JDK 11 set? When I look in the POM, there's no reference > to > > > the JDK, so in the case of Maven projects, it seems relevant to how > > > NetBeans supports GlassFish or Java EE, and not a requirement for the > > Maven > > > project to run on GlassFish. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM Josh Juneau > wrote: > > > > > > > GlassFish 5+ is not currently supported under JDK 9+...that is in the > > > > works. I believe the target JDK is for Java SE 11 support. > > > > > > > > See this issue in the tracker: > > > > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/22130 > > > > > > > > Therefore, GlassFish 5 requires JDK 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, not specifically JDK 8, but greater than JDK 8, too? I.e., the > > > > modular > > > > > JDK, from JDK 9 onwards, is supported by GlassFish? > > > > > > > > > > And what does GlassFish need the JDK for? > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:57 PM Josh Juneau > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require > JDK > > > 8+. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this he
Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?
GlassFish requires a JDK because it does not include one. One must utilize a JDK in order to start up GlassFish server. It sounds like the Maven-based web application is starting up without issue because in this case GlassFish must be configured to start under a specified JDK 8 installation (not the one indicated within the NetBeans project). Therefore, the project is compiling under the specified JDK in NetBeans (in this case JDK11) and deploying the resulting WAR file without issue to the GlassFish server that is running under JDK 8. I just compiled a Maven WAR under JDK 12 in NetBeans and deployed to GlassFish 5.1 running on JDK 8. It seemed to work without issues. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:13 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > OK, nice, in some ways. > > What's a bit unfortunate is that one can't select a JDK in the New Project > wizard for New Web Applications -- whatever JDK is used to start NetBeans > is assigned to the newly created Java Web application. > > The above is true for Ant-based projects and Maven-based projects. Somehow, > that's ignored in Maven-based projects, which run without a problem on > GlassFish 5 despite the JDK being JDK 11. So the question comes back to -- > what does GlassFish need the JDK for if it can be ignored, apparently, when > a Maven-based Web application is able to start up without a problem even > though it has JDK 11 set? When I look in the POM, there's no reference to > the JDK, so in the case of Maven projects, it seems relevant to how > NetBeans supports GlassFish or Java EE, and not a requirement for the Maven > project to run on GlassFish. > > Gj > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > GlassFish 5+ is not currently supported under JDK 9+...that is in the > > works. I believe the target JDK is for Java SE 11 support. > > > > See this issue in the tracker: > > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/22130 > > > > Therefore, GlassFish 5 requires JDK 8. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > wrote: > > > > > So, not specifically JDK 8, but greater than JDK 8, too? I.e., the > > modular > > > JDK, from JDK 9 onwards, is supported by GlassFish? > > > > > > And what does GlassFish need the JDK for? > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:57 PM Josh Juneau > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > > > > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require JDK > 8+. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. Thanks > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to > Java/Jakarta > > EE > > > > > that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8. > > > > > > > > > > In particular, this results in these problems: > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170 > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126 > > > > > > > > > > So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK does > > the > > > > > latest GlassFish releases require? > > > > > > > > > > If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users > should > > > > simply > > > > > be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to change > > > > > something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later JDKs. > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by GlassFish > > or, > > > > at > > > > > least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Josh Juneau > > > > juneau...@gmail.com > > > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?
GlassFish 5+ is not currently supported under JDK 9+...that is in the works. I believe the target JDK is for Java SE 11 support. See this issue in the tracker: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/22130 Therefore, GlassFish 5 requires JDK 8. On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > So, not specifically JDK 8, but greater than JDK 8, too? I.e., the modular > JDK, from JDK 9 onwards, is supported by GlassFish? > > And what does GlassFish need the JDK for? > > Gj > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:57 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require JDK 8+. > > > > Hope this helps. Thanks > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to Java/Jakarta EE > > > that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8. > > > > > > In particular, this results in these problems: > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170 > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126 > > > > > > So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK does the > > > latest GlassFish releases require? > > > > > > If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users should > > simply > > > be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to change > > > something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later JDKs. > > > > > > I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by GlassFish or, > > at > > > least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gj > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?
A quick follow-up...I am not sure that GlassFish can run under JDK 12 (or anything after JDK 8 for that matter)...but it does require JDK8. Let me look into the most recent version of the JDK that it will run against. Thanks On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:57 AM Josh Juneau wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require JDK 8+. > > Hope this helps. Thanks > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to Java/Jakarta EE >> that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8. >> >> In particular, this results in these problems: >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170 >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126 >> >> So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK does the >> latest GlassFish releases require? >> >> If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users should >> simply >> be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to change >> something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later JDKs. >> >> I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by GlassFish or, at >> least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gj >> > -- > Josh Juneau > juneau...@gmail.com > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?
Hi Geertjan, Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require JDK 8+. Hope this helps. Thanks On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to Java/Jakarta EE > that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8. > > In particular, this results in these problems: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170 > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126 > > So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK does the > latest GlassFish releases require? > > If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users should simply > be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to change > something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later JDKs. > > I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by GlassFish or, at > least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans. > > Thanks, > > Gj > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans
Hi Geertjan, Thanks for reaching out. I had made the required changes to j2ee.core and I've re-built my version of NetBeans, but the "Java EE 8" options are still not appearing in the drop-down selections. I've successfully added "Java EE 8 API Library" and "Java EE 8 Web API Library" as selectable libraries within the Ant Library Manager, but still unable to get the integration within the project dialogs. I'm working on that and plan to open a PR with all required changes once I've gotten it to work. Thanks and I'll keep the group posted. On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > How is it going with this? > > Thanks, > > Gj > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:30 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Excellent, thanks Geertjan! I'll take a look. I appreciate your help. > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > wrote: > > > > > It seems to be in j2ee.core, probably for both. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:25 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > It will be in two different places, one for Maven projects and one > for > > > Ant > > > > projects. > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:21 PM Josh Juneau > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Of course...will put in the PR. I would like to first enable the > > > >> selection > > > >> of the Java EE 8 Platform when creating a new project. Once I get > > that > > > >> working in my environment then I will put in the PR. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Great. Provide a pull request and we can evaluate it then. > > > >> > > > > >> > Gj > > > >> > > > > >> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 14:57, Josh Juneau > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Since the Java EE 8 Platform is not currently an available > choice > > > when > > > >> > > creating an Apache NetBeans project, I have put together a Java > > EE 8 > > > >> API > > > >> > > module for inclusion in Apache NetBeans. To create the module, > I > > > >> > followed > > > >> > > the same structure as the existing javaee7.api module. At this > > > time, > > > >> the > > > >> > > javaee8.api module resides in my GitHub repository. Since I > have > > > not > > > >> yet > > > >> > > added any new features or modules to Apache NetBeans, can > someone > > > >> point > > > >> > me > > > >> > > into the correct direction as to the next step towards getting > > this > > > >> API > > > >> > > included with the Apache NetBeans distribution? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8.api > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I went through the external dependencies and I believe I've > gotten > > > the > > > >> > > licenses correct for each, but those may need to be looked at > just > > > to > > > >> be > > > >> > > certain. I've also not been able to make the "Java EE 8" > platform > > > >> > > available as a drop-down menu selection for generation of new > > Apache > > > >> > > NetBeans projects in my development environment. If this module > > is > > > >> > > included in the Apache NetBeans distro, then someone may need to > > > help > > > >> me > > > >> > > out with that as I'm not quite sure what files need to be > > registered > > > >> in > > > >> > > order to make the platform available for use in projects. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks in advance for your assistance and guidance...it is > > > >> appreciated. > > > >> > > -- > > > >> > > Josh Juneau > > > >> > > juneau...@gmail.com > > > >> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > >> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > >> Josh Juneau > > > >> juneau...@gmail.com > > > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans
Excellent, thanks Geertjan! I'll take a look. I appreciate your help. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > It seems to be in j2ee.core, probably for both. > > Gj > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:25 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > It will be in two different places, one for Maven projects and one for > Ant > > projects. > > > > Gj > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:21 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > >> Of course...will put in the PR. I would like to first enable the > >> selection > >> of the Java EE 8 Platform when creating a new project. Once I get that > >> working in my environment then I will put in the PR. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Geertjan Wielenga > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Great. Provide a pull request and we can evaluate it then. > >> > > >> > Gj > >> > > >> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 14:57, Josh Juneau > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Since the Java EE 8 Platform is not currently an available choice > when > >> > > creating an Apache NetBeans project, I have put together a Java EE 8 > >> API > >> > > module for inclusion in Apache NetBeans. To create the module, I > >> > followed > >> > > the same structure as the existing javaee7.api module. At this > time, > >> the > >> > > javaee8.api module resides in my GitHub repository. Since I have > not > >> yet > >> > > added any new features or modules to Apache NetBeans, can someone > >> point > >> > me > >> > > into the correct direction as to the next step towards getting this > >> API > >> > > included with the Apache NetBeans distribution? > >> > > > >> > > https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8.api > >> > > > >> > > I went through the external dependencies and I believe I've gotten > the > >> > > licenses correct for each, but those may need to be looked at just > to > >> be > >> > > certain. I've also not been able to make the "Java EE 8" platform > >> > > available as a drop-down menu selection for generation of new Apache > >> > > NetBeans projects in my development environment. If this module is > >> > > included in the Apache NetBeans distro, then someone may need to > help > >> me > >> > > out with that as I'm not quite sure what files need to be registered > >> in > >> > > order to make the platform available for use in projects. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks in advance for your assistance and guidance...it is > >> appreciated. > >> > > -- > >> > > Josh Juneau > >> > > juneau...@gmail.com > >> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > >> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > >> > > > >> > > >> -- > >> Josh Juneau > >> juneau...@gmail.com > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > >> > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans
Of course...will put in the PR. I would like to first enable the selection of the Java EE 8 Platform when creating a new project. Once I get that working in my environment then I will put in the PR. Thanks On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Great. Provide a pull request and we can evaluate it then. > > Gj > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 14:57, Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Since the Java EE 8 Platform is not currently an available choice when > > creating an Apache NetBeans project, I have put together a Java EE 8 API > > module for inclusion in Apache NetBeans. To create the module, I > followed > > the same structure as the existing javaee7.api module. At this time, the > > javaee8.api module resides in my GitHub repository. Since I have not yet > > added any new features or modules to Apache NetBeans, can someone point > me > > into the correct direction as to the next step towards getting this API > > included with the Apache NetBeans distribution? > > > > https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8.api > > > > I went through the external dependencies and I believe I've gotten the > > licenses correct for each, but those may need to be looked at just to be > > certain. I've also not been able to make the "Java EE 8" platform > > available as a drop-down menu selection for generation of new Apache > > NetBeans projects in my development environment. If this module is > > included in the Apache NetBeans distro, then someone may need to help me > > out with that as I'm not quite sure what files need to be registered in > > order to make the platform available for use in projects. > > > > Thanks in advance for your assistance and guidance...it is appreciated. > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans
Since the Java EE 8 Platform is not currently an available choice when creating an Apache NetBeans project, I have put together a Java EE 8 API module for inclusion in Apache NetBeans. To create the module, I followed the same structure as the existing javaee7.api module. At this time, the javaee8.api module resides in my GitHub repository. Since I have not yet added any new features or modules to Apache NetBeans, can someone point me into the correct direction as to the next step towards getting this API included with the Apache NetBeans distribution? https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8.api I went through the external dependencies and I believe I've gotten the licenses correct for each, but those may need to be looked at just to be certain. I've also not been able to make the "Java EE 8" platform available as a drop-down menu selection for generation of new Apache NetBeans projects in my development environment. If this module is included in the Apache NetBeans distro, then someone may need to help me out with that as I'm not quite sure what files need to be registered in order to make the platform available for use in projects. Thanks in advance for your assistance and guidance...it is appreciated. -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Apache Releases NetBeans 10.0 Featuring Enhanced Support for JDK 11
I may be able to write a short release article. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:52 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi > wrote: > > Well, reading that, I'm starting to wander..., probably we shall provide some > press release material as well. > > Anyone would prepare such a thing for Apache NetBeans 11.0? > >> On 2/14/19 6:32 PM, Antonio wrote: >> >> https://www.infoq.com/news/2019/02/apache-releases-netbeans-10.0 >> >> Let's Tweet! >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: Time has come to redirect netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org?
+1 to redirecting the base URL if all of the non-moved content will still be hosted by Oracle on netbeans.org. Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Feb 2, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Yes, and that is not impacted at all by this proposal. > > Gj > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:02 PM Michael Müller < > michael.muel...@mueller-bruehl.de> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Short answer: nope. >> >> Long version: >> Till non-moved content exists, the user should be able to access it, >> especial plugins and tutorials. >> >> Just my opinion. >> >> Am 2. Februar 2019 08:19:41 MEZ schrieb Geertjan Wielenga >> : >>> Hi all, >>> >>> When someone goes to netbeans.org, they should instead be automatically >>> redirected to netbeans.apache.org -- has the time come for that to be >>> implemented? >>> >>> However, note that that does not mean that Oracle can yet stop serving >>> up >>> the content of netbeans.org, since we have not yet moved all of the >>> below >>> to netbeans.apache.org: >>> >>> netbeans.org/kb/index.html >>> >>> I.e., since all the tutorials and documentation have not yet been >>> moved, >>> i.e., we're moving them in stages and a subset of the learning trails >>> have >>> already transitioned: >>> >>> https://netbeans.apache.org/help/index.html >>> >>> So, back to the question with which this mail started -- do we agree >>> that >>> anyone going to netbeans.org should be redirected to >>> netbeans.apache.org? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >> >> -- >> Herzliche Grüße >> Michael Müller >> -- >> Herzliche Grüße >> Michael Müller
Re: Question on: Gradle Project Open Defaults
+1 to loading more slowly with all required dependencies. Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Feb 2, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: > > I prefer it to work and be just like working with Gradle at the CLI; my > tasks and config etc. Not sure other context to your question if there is > any. What happens from a user perspective with either course? If it loads > fast, but doesn't fully work, and I can't be productive, then that would be > bad for me. I work like this personally: > > 1) something quick to view and maybe make a one line change? Vi or VS Code. > > 2) Heavy duty coding session? IDE ... Because I know I need all the nice > tools. > > Thanks > > Wade > > >> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 19:08 Laszlo Kishalmi > >> Dear Gradle Users, >> >> I just would like to ask your opinion what would be the better: >> >> * Open project fast, but probably with missing dependencies. >> * Open project slower, but loading the initial set of required >>dependencies (this is the default now) >> >> Laszlo Kishalmi >> >>
Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
+1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer. Both would be excellent candidates. I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan being the first chair for year one. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair. > > I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of the > responsibilities can be found here: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair > > -- > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: What to do with features for EARs and EJBs?
I certainly agree that we need to keep this functionality within the IDE. Regarding naming and/or breaking it out into an extension: I would be in favor of keeping this functionality under a "Vintage Java EE" category. That is what it is, correct? I think we will need a "Jakarta EE" category in the near future, and this new category will not contain older functionality. I would prefer going straight to "Jakarta EE" as a category, rather than use "Modern Java EE". Jakarta EE 8 is due out soon and it will be in alignment with Java EE 8. Older (deprecated) functionality should go into the "Vintage Java EE" category. As Ken had mentioned, these technologies have not been deprecated, but these older EAR wizards would certainly be vintage in my opinion. If the day comes where most of the necessary EJB functionality is moved into other APIs, then maybe it can be broken off as an add-on extension...but not until then. Hope this makes sense. Thanks for all of the work that has gone into moving the IDE forward. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jan 28, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Brett Ryan wrote: > > Geertjan’s article is not about removing EE support it’s what to do about the > old Java EE which is deprecated in favour of Jakarta EE in the future being > the modern EE variant. > > For those that do not know, yes; Java EE 8 is the last version of Java EE, > Jakarta EE while not being a replacement it is the new way forward for > enterprise web applications. Removing legacy support in favour of new > technologies is certainly not suicide it is moving with the times. > > Spring support has always been brilliant in NetBeans with bean navigation > suppirt and now a lot of bootstrap support, but that’s the modern current > focus. > >> On 29 Jan 2019, at 08:33, Tomas Poledny wrote: >> >> NetBeans had the best support of JEE from all IDE. Support for Spring is >> very poor. I think remove of support part of JEE is suicide for NetBeans. >> This is main reason why I am using NetBeans. >> Tomas >> >>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 22:24 Brett Ryan >> >>> It’s always a sensitive topic whenever considering to remove something, >>> however; I am in favour for removing classic JavaEE support in favour of >>> concentrating on modern java web technologies such as spring and Jakarta. >>> >>> It becomes an enormous task to support everything. We can always provide >>> support in the form of a plugin though I feel that those using classic Java >>> EE may not benefit from the additions being added to NetBeans IDE and may >>> continue to use 8.2. >>> >>>>> On 29 Jan 2019, at 06:05, Geertjan Wielenga >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Especially to Java/Jakarta EE people out there, e.g., Ivar, Josh, David, >>> at >>>> least -- please advise what should be done with the EAR and EJB support, >>> as >>>> described here: >>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/enterprise-cluster-integrated-into-apache >>>> >>>> And, hurray, thanks Matthias especially, and Vikas, Arunava, Sarvesh, and >>>> Reema, for a lot of work on relicensing, for getting the enterprise >>> cluster >>>> integrated! >>>> >>>> Gj >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03
-1 Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There will > be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects: > > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11 > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0 > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03 > > Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote on each thread as: > > +1 I like it, let's do this way > 0I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it > -1 I do not like it at all. > > Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed at > the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version number > would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values. > > Voting is a community event! Be a proud community member and cast your > vote! > > Thank you! > > Laszlo Kishalmi > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 2019.03 > > P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only! > >
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0
+1 Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There will > be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects: > > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11 > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0 > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03 > > Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote on each thread as: > > +1 I like it, let's do this way > 0I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it > -1 I do not like it at all. > > Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed at > the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version number > would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values. > > Voting is a community event! Be a proud community member and cast your > vote! > > Thank you! > > Laszlo Kishalmi > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0 > > P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only! > >
Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11
0 Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:51 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There will > be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects: > > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11 > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0 > * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03 > > Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote on each thread as: > > +1 I like it, let's do this way > 0I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it > -1 I do not like it at all. > > Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed at > the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version number > would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values. > > Voting is a community event! Be a proud community member and cast your > vote! > > Thank you! > > Laszlo Kishalmi > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11 > > P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only! > >
Re: [DISCUSS] NetBeans 11.0 Release Schedule
Looking forward to helping out! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jan 6, 2019, at 4:48 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Just to set expectations -- I doubt there'll be full Java/Jakarta EE 8 > support in Apache NetBeans 11 (unless you or others provide it, you're very > welcome): the focus for Apache NetBeans 11 is to integrate what is > currently in the enterprise cluster (i.e., the same as in 8.2) into the > Apache NetBeans 11 release. That in itself is a big task, many odds and > ends and licensing issues remain to be fixed. > > Gj > >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:44 AM Vano Beridze wrote: >> >> I'm looking forward to get my hands on NetBeans with full Java/Jakarta EE 8 >> support, which 8.2 failed to accomplish. >> >> BTW what will be the minimum required version of JDK for running NetBeans >> 11? >> >> BR, >> Vano Beridze >> >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 2:38 PM Geertjan Wielenga >> > >>> Also, in parallel to the process that you're starting, Laszlo, I will >> work >>> on the process to move NetBeans to be a top level project -- which, if we >>> complete it soon enough, will mean we will not have an IPMC vote since we >>> will not be in the incubator any longer. >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:36 AM Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Excellent, thanks for that schedule. >>>> >>>> I believe we should see the following as the drivers (i.e., the P1s) of >>>> this release: >>>> >>>> 1. JDK 12 support >>>> 2. Integration of the enterprise cluster >>>> >>>> The above is in line with the roadmap proposal: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap >>>> >>>> Integration of the enterprise cluster should start with including the >>>> enterprise cluster into the build process, I think? >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM Laszlo Kishalmi < >>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> We've made some bold plans, back at November, releasing NetBeans 11.0 >>>>> (or 11 we really shall decide this BTW) in March 2019 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap >>>>> >>>>> If we would like to keep ourselves to that commitment, we had our >> little >>>>> time to celebrate, but we need to move on and prepare for the next >>> round. >>>>> >>>>> Let's assume that we plan with a late March release 28th on week 13th, >>>>> I've put together a release schedule to have something to discuss on: >>>>> >>>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11 >>>>> >>>>> I guess we are going to work with a 6 weeks NetCat cycle, so it should >>>>> start around the 6th week. I'd be happy if someone who knows NetCat >> more >>>>> could fill out the table. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance! >>>>> >>>>> Laszlo Kishalmi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>
Re: Did i do pull-request right
Hi Peter, Upon brief review, the PR looks correct to me. However, I think you will need to add the license headers back to the modified files. I’ve left a comment in the PR. Thanks! Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jan 1, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Peter Cheung wrote: > > Hi > Anybody can tell me i did correctly or not? > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1065 > > > > Thanks > From Peter
Re: Installation bundle for Apache NetBeans 10.0 for Windows
Nice work! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Dec 31, 2018, at 2:38 AM, Aritra Karak wrote: > > Dear community, > > I would like to draw your kind attention towards my creation bundle for > Apache NetBeans 10.0 for Windows. Recently after the release of Apache > NetBeans 10.0, I, Aritra Karak, decided to make an installation bundle for > both Windows 32-bit and 64-bit. The installation bundle is made using the Inno > Setup Compiler <http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php> which is a free > software script-driven installation system created in Delphi by Jordan > Russell. The bundle is created completely directly from the raw zipped > downloadable binaries provided in the Download > <https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb100/nb100.html> section of the > Apache NetBeans website and nothing more than that. I was inspired from the > Note (about the Apache NetBeans community member Carl Mosca making a Mac > OSX installation bundle available) that was given before downloading Apache > NetBeans 9.0. The main idea behind creating the installers is for easy > NetBeans 10.0 installation on Windows. > > > Some salient features of the installers : > > 1. Supports for both 32-bit as well as 64-bit of Windows. > 2. Easy to install with flexible configurations. > 3. Displays properly the LICENSE Agreement, the DISCLAIMER, and the > NOTICE during installation. > 4. Installation folder can be easily changed according to the user’s > preference. > 5. Installation is quick and fast. > 6. A desktop shortcut can be created. (Please create the shortcut and > after installation move the mouse over the shortcut to see a popup saying > ‘The Smart Way to Code’ ) > 7. In Control Panel > Programs and Features on selecting the software > shows all the important information at the bottom. > 8. There are proper links for Support, Help and Update Information at > the bottom. > > > Please find the download link for the zip containing Apache NetBeans 10.0 > installation bundles for both 32-bit and 64-bit of Windows below. > > (Note: Please extract the installers from the zip to a suitable place and > then only start the installation.) > > > File Name = NetBeans10.0_Installers_Windows.zip > > File Type = Compressed Archive Zip (.zip) > > File Size = 293.27 MB > > MD5 Hash = F988F3373F583F1505E2DCCD46B8AE28 > > SHA1 Hash = B9DCE87D7AAF092F7C638FC9E58ED93AA7690AF0 > > SHA-256 Hash = > 8C185BF6475DB3670E172C16CB3651FFE09024168DF848BAD19AFA561F03F2B0 > > Download Link (MediaFire) = > http://www.mediafire.com/file/6ltdrglyptdavl6/NetBeans10.0_Installers_Windows.zip/file > > Hope you like the installation bundles! > > > (In my case, I have Windows 10 64-bit but the 32-bit version of > netbeans.exe was only working, the 64-bit version of netbeans64.exe was not > opening and was dumping error logs.) > > > I have kept the Publisher as ‘The Apache Software Foundation’. If any > change is needed anywhere, please tell me. I will surely try to fix that. > > > Regards, > > Aritra Karak > >
Re: Feedback: Release Management of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0
Great job as the release manager Laszlo! Looking forward to having you as release manager for future releases. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Dec 29, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Laszlo, you did an amazing job -- and it's really awesome that you want to > continue doing it for the next release! > > Gj > >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 8:39 AM Antonio wrote: >> >> Hi Laszlo, >> >> I think we all were honored you being our release manager. This release >> has been specially difficult, with unexpected roadblocks and required >> extra effort. Also thank you for volunteering as a 11.0 release manager. >> >> Regarding voting candidates / release candidates, some other projects do >> have release candidates ([1]). I see the "voting" and "release" just a >> naming convention, something that is useful for us to communicate. I >> think the important stuff is having NetCAT helping us decide if >> something is ready or not. Naming is just a cosmetic thing. >> >> +1 to adding BLOCKER to JIRA issues. In fact we could end up having a >> small dictionary for those. For instance, "BLOCKER" could mean to us >> "any reason (legal, technical or other) that may stop a release being >> published". >> >> Finally I'd add another enhancement: storing all NetBeans releases as a >> simple XML/YAML file somewhere in the website (with links, etc.), and >> have the website-tools generate page for us automatically with proper >> links. Apache is very strict on what a release page can have (proper >> urls, mirrors/archive, links to keys and checksums, not including github >> links, etc.) we may want to automate that in the future. >> >> Thanks again for making 10.0 a great release, and Happy New Year everybody, >> Antonio >> >> >> [1] >> https://spark.apache.org/release-process.html >> >> >>> El 29/12/2018 a las 1:11, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I was honored being your release manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) >>> 10.0. >>> >>> Thank you all, who contributed to this release and thank you for the >>> guidance, correcting me whenever was needed! >>> >>> When I applied as a volunteer, I thought it would be easier especially >>> after Geertjan and Emilian did a really great job releasing and >>> documented the process for 9.0. Special thanks for that! It has turned >>> out it is not enough to simply replicating the previous process, but we >>> needed to improve that. >>> >>> I needed to learn a lot about the Apache way, and along the road I made >>> a few mistakes, sometimes miscommunication, which could have been >>> annoying or look unprofessional. I'm sorry for that. I'm sure I was not >>> the best release manager for Apache NetBeans so far, I just hope I was >>> good enough. As of the future, if the community trusts me I apply as a >>> volunteer release manager for the upcoming Apache NetBeans 11.0 release. >>> >>> I see two major things need some improvement: >>> >>> I'm still not happy with the vote candidate naming convention. Even if >>> we had no public non GA release during the 10.0 cycle, We really had an >>> internal Beta 1 (10.0-vc1), Beta 2 (10.0-vc2) which we do not really had >>> the intent for offer voting on PPMC. We had an Release Candidate 1 >>> (10.0-vc3), which almost ended up being released and at the end we had >>> an RC3 (10.0 -vc5) which has been finally released as Apache NetBeans >>> (incubating) 10.0. I can live with that, though it is a bit strange to >>> assemble a vote candidate, knowing that the best vote you can give on >>> that is a -1. So first we need to decide if we would like to have public >>> betas and release candidates in the future or not. >>> >>> After last minute changes: We had a short lived vc4, as of vc3 has been >>> voted down on IPMC level having binary files in the source package. >>> Suddenly a handful of serious issue has appeared. I do not know how can >>> we help on this. There is only one thing I would add here. Please do not >>> hesitate mark every legal related concerns as BLOCKER in JIRA, even if >>> it is not a BLOCKER at all, we can't really let legal issues flying >>> under our radar. >>> >>> I was overall happy with the responsiveness of the community on
Re: Gradle Support for Apache NetBeans
Very nice! Great work Laszlo! Looking forward to having support for Gradle as a first class citizen. Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Dec 29, 2018, at 5:02 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > > Very cool, it'll be nice to have Gradle and Maven in NetBeans moving > forward. > > From what I see, new frameworks seem to be coming out supporting Gradle, so > being able to have Gradle as a first class citizen along with Maven that > would be really great. > > > Regards > > John > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 at 19:57, Laszlo Kishalmi > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I would like to donate my Gradle works to Apache NetBeans. >> >> Right now the code is here: >> https://github.com/lkishalmi/incubator-netbeans/tree/gradle-support >> >> I just recently rebased it on master, so there is no conflicts. If I'd >> create a PR from it that would mean 317 new files and ~35k line of code. >> >> The current state of the plugin: >> >> * It Opens Gradle Projects resource efficiently >> * It is based on the ideas found in our Maven Plugin >> * It supports JavaSE and Groovy development >> * Unit Testing >> * Code Coverage >> * JPA projects >> * Spring (the little support we have for that) >> * Navigator for project task >> * Custom Task execution >> * Output processing >> * Debugging (even single methods) >> * Creating new projects >> >> The shady side: >> >> * The Gradle <-> NetBeans project discovery and communication. >>Based on simple property serialization. Ugly Groovy code, well the >>deserialization Java code isn't that nice as well >> * Limited number of unittest >> * Being a sole developer there could be glitches here and there as of >>lack of wider testing. >> * Gradle is required to build the NetBeans <-> Gradle tooling >>This adds a binary >>groovy/gradle/netbeans-gradle-tooling/gradle/wrapper/gradle-wrapper.jar >>to the source distribution package, though this file is not >>distributed. So Apace might agree with that. >> >> Introduced External Dependencies: >> >> * Gradle Tooling API (Apache Licensed) >> o slf4j (Apache Licensed) >> * JaCoCo Core Library (EPL 1.0) >>The whole JaCoCo project uses other libraries distributed under >>different licenses, I need to make sure that the core is EPL 1.0 only >> >> Areas to Improve: >> >> * There is no support for Ergonomy >> * Module versions might be incorrectly specified, I did the best I could >> * Add Groovy project support (could be trivial) >> * Improve Gradle <-> JDK incompatibility check. >> * Profiling >> * Compile on Save (that's an icy territory) >> * Improve project Settings >> * Whatever you think... >> >> Future Works: >> >> * I also have a JavaEE support module started, I can donate somewhat >>later to the enterprise cluster. >> >> >>
Re: Grails and Apache NetBeans
+1 to maintaining Grails support and also adding Micronaut support. Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Dec 29, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > Hi all, > > if we can reenable grails support for a current version of grails we should > do this for all our legacy bound users... > > Adding support for micronaut would be a great addition.. > > Sven > > Am Sa., 29. Dez. 2018, 18:00 hat Geertjan Wielenga > geschrieben: > >> That makes sense. It was probably right to disable the old Grails support >> that we had. >> >> If someone can provide a 'hello world' Grails/Micronaut sample, we can >> integrate that and, if needed, build support around it. Maybe we can reuse >> some of the old Grails support, but probably not. >> >> Gj >> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:54 PM Rik Scarborough wrote: >>> >>> The Grails team has made a statement that they intend on moving Grails >> into >>> the Micronaut structure. >>> >>> ~Rik >>> Believe in good >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 10:51 AM Geertjan Wielenga >>> >> >>>> Hi all, especially Jasen and Oleg, who recently commented on Grails >>> support >>>> in Apache NetBeans, >>>> >>>> Now that we have released Apache NetBeans 10, and are looking to Apache >>>> NetBeans 11, which will included the enterprise cluster, i.e., >> including >>>> support for application servers, which is relevant for Grails >> deployment, >>>> maybe we could look at reintegrating Grails features into Apache >> NetBeans >>>> 11? >>>> >>>> Here's the related PR where we disabled Grails support (because of lack >>> of >>>> enterprise cluster integration and because the version of Grails >>> supported >>>> was outdated): >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/904/commits/1a5259cfcba106430d95f039480578ff9ba41e34 >>>> >>>> Or should we not focus on Grails at all, or Micronaut instead? Would be >>>> good to define what we'd like to achieve with Grails together and come >> up >>>> with a plan. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>> >>
Re: Happy holidays everyone
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Great work to everyone involved in the fantastic Apache NetBeans community! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Dec 25, 2018, at 12:28 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > And Merry Christmas! > > It's so nice that we finished the Apache NetBeans 10 voting by Christmas. > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > --emi > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5]
+1 for VC5 On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:38 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > Please vote on our 5th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache > NetBeans (incubating). > > If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started > ongene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can > release this version. > > Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) constitutes all but the enterprise > cluster in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the > NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as > all the modules that provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy > features of Apache NetBeans. > > In short, Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE, PHP > and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support. > > Build artifacts available here: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/ > > This voting is on the following artifact: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-source.zip > > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and > NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are > the same as these: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/README.md > > SHA1: 028b47ca10118e616208e4949fb79c2e38d74fd5 > > KEYS file: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS > > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 10.0-vc5 : > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/10.0-vc5 > > Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the > rat-exclusions.txt file: > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt > > Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: > > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/380/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > > Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes > (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans): > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-bin.zip > > Release specific wiki page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 > > How (and what) to try out the release: > > 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it. > 2. Check that the artifact does not contain any jar files, > save the: > platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar > 3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file > 4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact. > 5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the > build process. > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [MENTORS] Re: [PPMC] We need volunteers for NetBeans lists moderation (+ [MENTORS] , want to step down?)
I'd like to volunteer to assist with the moderation of the mailing list as well, if needed. Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 6:21 AM Thilina Ranathunga wrote: > Hi all, > Was bit busy recently. > Can see some free time ahead. > > So, count me as well. > > Thanks. > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 5:22 PM Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > If needed, me too. > > > > Thanks, > > Junichi > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:00 PM Sven Reimers > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi mentors, > > > > > > volunteering for mailing list moderation as well. > > > > > > -Sven > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:16 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi mentors, > > > > > > > > Great -- Matthias has volunteered to join in with mailing list > > moderation. > > > > The next question is how we set that up, is that something I can do, > > how, > > > > etc? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:42 PM Matthias Bläsing < > > > > mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Bertrand, > > > > > > > > > > Am Montag, den 26.11.2018, 13:56 +0100 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: > > > > > > As per https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/netbeans it looks > > like > > > > > > it's only Geertjan and mentors who are moderating the NetBeans > > > > > > mailing lists for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > In view of the project's graduation I'd like to step down and > maybe > > > > > > other mentors want do to that as well? > > > > > > > > > > > > To have enough moderators, could we have a 2-3 additional > > volunteers > > > > > > for that task? You need to be a NetBeans PPMC member and > > > > > > https://reference.apache.org/pmc/ml has the general > instructions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for your work! I'm willing to volunteer to help, so count > > me > > > > > in. > > > > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sven Reimers > > > > > > * Senior Expert Software Architect > > > * Java Champion > > > * Apache NetBeans PPMC: http://netbeans.apache.org > > > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://www.meetup.com/JUG-Bodensee > > > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009 & 2018 > > > > > > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > >
Re: NetBeans - the UI for Maven
+1 to making Maven the default. I agree that we should not force users to choose between Maven or Ant when creating a new project. Just make Maven the default and allow the user the ability to change to Ant, if desired. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Nov 25, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 17:48, wrote: >> >> Java Application: >> - Maven based >>- ANT based >> >> This doesn't really move ANT out of sight, and is only slightly better >> than what we have now. It also adds one more click to the wizard. > > > That's not quite what I envisaged by using the hierarchy for this though - > thinking more about > > Java > - Java Application (Maven) > - POM Project > - Project with Existing POM > - Ant based > - Java Application (Ant) > - Java Free-Form Project > NetBeans > - NetBeans Application (Maven) > - NetBeans Module (Maven) > - Ant based > - NetBeans Application (Ant) > - NetBeans Module (Ant) > Java Web > - ... > > Something like that anyway. ie. only the non-default / legacy stuff is in a > sub-category. > > Agree with Emi that there's no rush for a PR on the basis that we're > talking NB11 earliest, but less sure how the wizard combobox option would > actually be preferable to revising project selection in practice. Depends > how much each type of project overlaps across build systems I guess? > > Best wishes, > > Neil
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]
I've been running vc3 for Java EE development for the past few weeks. Working great. Built vc4 today and it seems to be working well also. Once those last few issues are taken care of then I think this will be a solid release. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Nov 22, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > Yes, the Dev in About dialog is not correct too. > > -Jirka > > Dne 22.11.2018 v 06:31 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a): >> +1 >> BTW, The version is **DEV** yet. Help > About > Product Version: >> Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build >> incubator-netbeans-release-370-on-20181121) >> So, we should fix it. >> Regards, >> Junichi >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 8:50 AM Laszlo Kishalmi >> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> This is our 4th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache NetBeans. >>> The content of this voting candidate is the same as the previous voting >>> candidate 3, the only difference is the accidentally included binaries got >>> removed (with some build script modifications). >>> See more at: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D1719=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=QB6PHJxJtoOyGQaaf-aC4mNY21oNn-KBstysrqfwKvs= >>> >>> Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) constitutes all but the enterprise >>> cluster in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the >>> NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as >>> all the modules that provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy >>> features of Apache NetBeans. >>> >>> In short, Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE, PHP >>> and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support. >>> >>> Build artifacts available here: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dist.apache.org_repos_dist_dev_incubator_netbeans_incubating-2Dnetbeans_incubating-2D10.0-2Dvc4_=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=-1P1Pi1zfdBxURa80ZtDvXNpLWLfqonXLSdr0-NjwjI= >>> >>> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE >>> files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are the same >>> as these: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_blob_release100_README.md=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=MDHqfr8DKL7GEw0cQP-9hUgHApqtNLON8fPSki-GVXo= >>> >>> SHA1: 028b47ca10118e616208e4949fb79c2e38d74fd5 >>> >>> KEYS file: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dist.apache.org_repos_dist_release_incubator_netbeans_KEYS=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=uwug-qCRA6_2V_Nmw54_bt4wUVRD4SWyqqOMGClBfG0= >>> >>> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 10.0-vc4 : >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_tree_10.0-2Dvc4=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=eMA2Hv1O53X3M2uSKVBgH02a2CX6zOwuy_Pe9YS4rW8= >>> >>> Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the >>> rat-exclusions.txt file: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_blob_release100_nbbuild_rat-2Dexclusions.txt=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=dJhpCwlfIvzgSg_I62edNYO2tZLmIgosj1FBt5r02oo= >>> >>> Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__builds.apache.org_job_incubator-2Dnetbeans-2Drelease_370_artifact_rat-2Drelease-2Dtemp_nbbuild_build_rat-2Dreport.txt=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=VGjETwtH5uC3K4TAFW0jkFJcF2sAl1_wV9KDUXldvQA=s1buAPLC6vF3iBOBp8a0QUVsyyeDeFUzy7tRW49A7LE= >>> >>> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes >>> (unzip it, run it a
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates
Indeed, you are correct Geertjan. I think we are on the same page. Thanks for the proposal...looks great. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:47 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The proposal is exactly as we are all arguing for — including Neil and > Chris — a quarterly release cycle, though with two major releases synced > with JDK releases and two smaller releases in between with shortened NetCAT > cycles, plus once we’re top level out of the incubator we won’t have the > IPMC vote, which will speed up releases too. > > I think we may all be on the same page. > > Gj > > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Yes...perfect. Sorry I did not refer to the proposal. Looked at it > > yesterday and responded today... > > > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:21 AM Geertjan Wielenga < > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > >> But that’s exactly what the proposal says, right? > >> > >> Gj > >> > >> > >> On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, Josh Juneau > wrote: > >> > >>> I like the idea of two major releases each year...those being releases > >>> incorporating new functionality. However, I think it would be a good > idea > >>> to have patch releases in-between...making for a total of four releases > >>> each year. > >>> > >>> Josh > >>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:19 AM Geertjan Wielenga > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> We've completed the NetCAT process (on the functioning of the > >>>> convenience binary of Apache NetBeans 10) and the PPMC vote (on the > sources > >>>> of Apache NetBeans 10). > >>>> > >>>> Right now, the IPMC (the incubator project management committee) is > >>>> voting on the sources of Apache NetBeans 10, since Apache NetBeans is > in > >>>> the Apache Incubator. (We're going to be voting to get out of the > Apache > >>>> Incubator very soon, with support from our mentors, since they're > happy > >>>> with how we're working as a community and consider us to be ready to > be a > >>>> top level Apache project.) > >>>> > >>>> So, what's next? After we release Apache NetBeans 10, we'll start > >>>> working on the next release. Consensus on the dev mailing list has > formed > >>>> around quarterly releases. In the NetCAT process, we found that there > was > >>>> quite some time pressure to get things done and maybe we should take > more > >>>> time and thereby be able to provide more quality. > >>>> > >>>> As a result, here's a proposal to do two major releases next year, in > >>>> line with JDK 12 and 13 in March and September, with two optional > minor > >>>> releases in between (e.g., a bug fix release could be great). Of > course, > >>>> Apache NetBeans does not serve the Java community only, though those > two > >>>> months of March and September are fairly spaced anyway and potentially > >>>> could allow us to provide bundles with those JDKs if and when that > were to > >>>> be possible. > >>>> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > >>>> Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > >>>> > >>>> There are several significant bugs that we need to nail down and > >>>> resolve, we can include them in the upcoming releases or distribute > them > >>>> via plugins. We're I'm sure all very aware of several problems, as > well as > >>>> features that need to be added -- we need everyone to be proactive in > >>>> pinning down bugs and in providing code contributions for missing > features. > >>>> > >>>> Comments welcome, and many thanks for all the hard and enthusiastic > >>>> work done so far. > >>>> > >>>> Gj > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>> Josh Juneau > >>> juneau...@gmail.com > >>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > >>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > >>> > >>> -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates
I like the idea of two major releases each year...those being releases incorporating new functionality. However, I think it would be a good idea to have patch releases in-between...making for a total of four releases each year. Josh On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:19 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > We've completed the NetCAT process (on the functioning of the convenience > binary of Apache NetBeans 10) and the PPMC vote (on the sources of Apache > NetBeans 10). > > Right now, the IPMC (the incubator project management committee) is voting > on the sources of Apache NetBeans 10, since Apache NetBeans is in the > Apache Incubator. (We're going to be voting to get out of the Apache > Incubator very soon, with support from our mentors, since they're happy > with how we're working as a community and consider us to be ready to be a > top level Apache project.) > > So, what's next? After we release Apache NetBeans 10, we'll start working > on the next release. Consensus on the dev mailing list has formed around > quarterly releases. In the NetCAT process, we found that there was quite > some time pressure to get things done and maybe we should take more time > and thereby be able to provide more quality. > > As a result, here's a proposal to do two major releases next year, in line > with JDK 12 and 13 in March and September, with two optional minor releases > in between (e.g., a bug fix release could be great). Of course, Apache > NetBeans does not serve the Java community only, though those two months of > March and September are fairly spaced anyway and potentially could allow us > to provide bundles with those JDKs if and when that were to be possible. > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > There are several significant bugs that we need to nail down and resolve, > we can include them in the upcoming releases or distribute them via > plugins. We're I'm sure all very aware of several problems, as well as > features that need to be added -- we need everyone to be proactive in > pinning down bugs and in providing code contributions for missing features. > > Comments welcome, and many thanks for all the hard and enthusiastic work > done so far. > > Gj > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Unable to build?
Hi Ryan, I just pulled down the latest from incubator-netbeans and it built okay on my Mac. Are you on Windows or another OS? Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:50 PM, Ryan Cuprak wrote: > > Hi, > I just updated to the most recent code and the build failed, has anyone else > ran into this? > > -Ryan > > [nbmerge] Failed to build target: all-j2ee.eclipselink > > BUILD FAILED > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:478: The following > error occurred while executing this line: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:473: The following > error occurred while executing this line: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:508: The following > error occurred while executing this line: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:491: The following > error occurred while executing this line: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:473: The following > error occurred while executing this line: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:520: The following > error occurred while executing this line: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/templates/projectized.xml:255: > Could not copy > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/java/j2ee.eclipselink/build/javax.persistence-2.1.0-doc.zip: > java.nio.file.FileSystemException: > /Users/rcuprak/open-source/netbeans/nbbuild/netbeans/java/modules/ext/docs: > Is a directory >at sun.nio.fs.UnixException.translateToIOException(UnixException.java:91) >at sun.nio.fs.UnixException.rethrowAsIOException(UnixException.java:102) >at sun.nio.fs.UnixException.rethrowAsIOException(UnixException.java:107) >at > sun.nio.fs.UnixFileSystemProvider.newByteChannel(UnixFileSystemProvider.java:214) >at > java.nio.file.spi.FileSystemProvider.newOutputStream(FileSystemProvider.java:434) >at java.nio.file.Files.newOutputStream(Files.java:216) > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]
*+1 (binding)* *Runtime:* Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 1.8.0_171-b11 *System:* Mac OS X version 10.13.6 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_US (nb) Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:50 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Hi all, > > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating)! > > If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started > ongene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can > release this version. This build will also undergo validation through > NetCAT. > > Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) constitutes all but the enterprise > cluster in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the > NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as > all the modules that provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy > features of Apache NetBeans. > > In short, Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE and > PHP, JavaScript development with some Groovy language support. > > Build artifacts available here: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc3 > > The specific artifact to be voted on: > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc3/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc3-source.zip > > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and > NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are > the same as these: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/release100/README.md > > SHA1: 028b47ca10118e616208e4949fb79c2e38d74fd5 > > KEYS file: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS > > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 10.0-vc3 : > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/10.0-vc3 > > Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the > rat-exclusions.txt file: > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/release100/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt > > Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: > > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/365/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > > Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes > (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans): > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc3/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc1-bin.zip > > > > Release specific wiki page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 > > How (and what) to try out the release: > > 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it. > 2. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file > 3. Build it using the README provided by the artifact. > 4. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the > build process. > > > If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up vote > +1 in this thread. > > Note that according tohttp:// > www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval : > > > Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to download all > > signed source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that they > meet > > all requirements of ASF policy on releases as described below, validate > all > > cryptographic signatures, compile as provided, and test the result on > their > > own platform. > Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote! The > vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary number of > votes (3 binding +1s) is reached. > > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) > [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... > > Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an Apache > NetBeans PPMC member, i.e., your name is on this page: > http://home.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#netbeans , although > note the only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC, > i.e., in the next vote thread, after this one passes. > > Laszlo Kishalmi > on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC >
Re: Apache NetBeans: Duke's Choice Award Winner 2018
Hello All, I found the live stream link to the 2018 Duke's Choice Award ceremony just in case you missed it. https://twitter.com/OracleDevs/status/1054867200144601088 Congrats again everyone on a well-deserved win! On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 1:23 PM Kenneth Fogel wrote: > I just noticed that the image file of us hoding Duke is dropped by the > list. You can see the photo near the end of my blog post at > https://www.omnijava.com/2018/10/27/my-oracle-code-one-2018-personal-experience/ > > Ken > > > From: Kenneth Fogel > Sent: October 27, 2018 4:35 PM > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: Apache NetBeans: Duke's Choice Award Winner 2018 > > Attached is the group photo from CodeOne taken on October 23, 2018. > > While we may have been at Code One to receive the award, it is an award > for the entire Apache NetBeans family. > > Ken > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>> > Sent: October 23, 2018 7:29 PM > To: dev dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>>; NetBeans Mailing List < > us...@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:us...@netbeans.apache.org>> > Subject: Apache NetBeans: Duke's Choice Award Winner 2018 > > Hi all, > > Congratulations to all of us! > > We have won the highest accolade in the Java ecosystem -- a Duke's Choice > Award. > > Oracle press release: > > > https://www.oracle.com/it/corporate/pressrelease/oow18-code-one-java-keynote-2018-10-22.html > > Attached is a happy pic of a lot of Apache NetBeans PPMC members at the > award ceremony, together with Georges Saab, Vice President, Software > Development, Java Platform Group at Oracle. > > This is big news! > > Gj > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: JavaDB?
I confirm that downloading the Apache release of JavaDB will provide a copy of the derbyclient.jar that is needed by NetBeans. Once registered, you can create connections to JavaDB via Apache NetBeans in the same manner as in the past. Tested on vc2 Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Oct 24, 2018, at 12:44 PM, John Kostaras wrote: > > Thank you for the quick response Matthias. > > In this link > <https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javadb/overview/index.html> it > mentions that JavaDB is included in JDK (and the actual link to the JDK > there points to the latest JDK). But reading more carefully, it looks that > this is only applicable till JDK 7. They forgot to update the link. > > The reason I posed this question is because I 'm to modify (rather create) > the SQL Query Profiling test case > <http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/suite/2254/v/1> which > is empty! I thought to use a JavaDB for the test case like it is done in > the Database Test Specification > <http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/specification/389/v/2>. > This would avoid download a driver for a db etc. But now that JavaDB is > gone, need to see what to do. > > I notice that drivers for MySQL, Oracle OCI & Thin client and Postgresql > are included by default, but what about drivers of other DBs (SQLite, > HSQLDB, MariaDB, Apace Derby)? License issues? > > Thanks. > > John. > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 23:01, Matthias Bläsing > wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Am Dienstag, den 23.10.2018, 22:20 +0200 schrieb John Kostaras: >>> No JavaDB support anymore? *Services (tab) -> Databases -> JavaDB *you >>> cannot start any server any more, while expanding the *Drivers* node >> there >>> no driver for JavaDB. I 'd expect that installing *Java EE Base* plugin >> it >>> would install it, but no. >> >> the JavaDB driver was taken from the JavaDB installation of a JDK and >> to my knowledge was never redistributed with netbeans. >> >>> I 'm on Mac. Oracle site claims that JavaDB is part of the JDK (also of >>> version 11) but I couldn't locate it. >> >> Not sure where it is claimed, that JavaDB still exists, but the JDK >> bugtracker has an issue, that removes JavaDB from the JDK as of JDK 9: >> >> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8080959 >> >> However, JavaDB was just Apache Derby rebranded. So here you go: >> >> https://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html >> >> HTH >> >> Matthias >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >>
Re: Status of 3rd Code Donation
Excellent news! On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:04 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > Oracle has handed over the grant document and ZIP providing the 3rd code > donation to Apache. Apache is evaluating the grant document and we will > proceed with the content of the ZIP file after the document has been > accepted by Apache. > > The code donated by means of the 3rd donation contains documentation, > tutorials, images used in the tutorials, localization files, as well as the > NetBeans Plugin Portal and Synergy, as well as Installer source code, and a > patch for CSS 2.1 grammar for ANTLR. > > The above will enable us to publish the NetBeans tutorials at > netbeans.apache.org, it will enable us to publish the NetBeans Plugin > Portal at netbeans.apache.org (though the question remains where the > plugins themselves will be located, possibly in a Maven repo with the > Plugin Portal being a catalog with pointers to that Maven repo), the > Installer source code will enable installers to be created for Apache > NetBeans, the donation of Synergy wraps up the question of who that > applications belongs to (a testing application used by NetCAT), and the > patch wraps up this issue: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-565 > > At Oracle, we've moved on to the 4th code donation, focused on C/C++ > tooling, hopefully in the first quarter of next year that code will be > ready for donation to Apache. > > See the schedule at the end of this page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition > > Thanks, > > Gj > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: High level status of Apache NetBeans
Nice work Geertjan...great interview! It was great to see everyone this week! Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Oct 24, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > FYI: Small interview with me at Oracle Code One today: > > https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YqxoglXEYExv > > On Twitter: > > https://twitter.com/OracleDevs/status/1055206463809843200 > > Thanks, > > Gj
Re: Apache NetBeans: Duke's Choice Award Winner 2018
Congrats to everyone for all of the hard work on such an excellent IDE and platform! Well deserved! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Oct 23, 2018, at 4:29 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Congratulations to all of us! > > We have won the highest accolade in the Java ecosystem -- a Duke's Choice > Award. > > Oracle press release: > > https://www.oracle.com/it/corporate/pressrelease/oow18-code-one-java-keynote-2018-10-22.html > > Attached is a happy pic of a lot of Apache NetBeans PPMC members at the award > ceremony, together with Georges Saab, Vice President, Software Development, > Java Platform Group at Oracle. > > This is big news! > > Gj > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Web Project - Test Specification
I have been working on the "NB Modules" Profiler test spec. I also signed up for the "Web Project" test spec. However, since Java EE and Java Web Applications are not yet supported with NetBeans 10, does it make sense for me to go through this specification? If we do add this test, then we'd have to first install the NetBeans 8.2 plugin so that a Java web application could be created within NetBeans. Let me know...but in my opinion we cannot include the "Web Project" test in the set of tests for NetBeans 10. Thanks! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: NetBeans (10) Splash Screen
Hi Laszlo, I have executed the 10vc1 build in the following ways successfully without seeing any flickering on OSX 10.13.6: - NetBeans 10vc1 binary on Java 1.8.0_171-b11 - NetBeans 10vc1 binary on Java 11; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11+28 - NetBeans 10vc1 built from sources on Java 1.8.0_171-b11 When the splash screen initially displays it is gray for a split second, then the new updated splash screen shows with "Release 10". Looks great... Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:16 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Hi all, > > Do we need the *release version* branded Splash screens? > > Right now we are having those. These images are using a Java splash > screen support displaying an image before anything happen in the VM, the > application later can update this screen. > > Right now we have the version 9 "branded" image displayed, then it gets > updated with version 10 causing a bit flickering. > > Though I do not think that the static splash image is still required. > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-67) > > If we just leave the version out from the initial splash image than the > later update would be just addition to that, so the "flickering" could > be avoided. > > We need to replace the splash screens for NetBeans 10 anyway, but if we > would replace them this way we could merge back it to master then the > next release does not need to replace the branding. > > Opinions? > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: NetBeans 10.0 has been branched!
Nice work! On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 2:00 AM László Kishalmi wrote: > Yes > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 22:46 Vano Beridze wrote: > > > Will it run on JDK 11? > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 09:28 László Kishalmi > > wrote: > > > > > Java 8. > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 22:22 Vano Beridze wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > What will be the minimum JDK version NetBeans 10 will run on? > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Vano > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:21 AM Laszlo Kishalmi < > > > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > I'm happy to announce that our release 10 has been branched from > > master > > > > > on 21:00 PST. > > > > > > > > > > I've went through the list of open issues with PR-s and open PRs. > We > > > are > > > > > in a pretty good shape now. > > > > > > > > > > I've found the following PRs might be considering into release100 > by > > > > > cherry picking: > > > > > > > > > > * NETBEANS-1227 < > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1227 > > > > > > > > > Mark Windows launcher binary as per-monitor DPI aware > > > > > * NETBEANS-49 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-49 > > > > > > > Please add smooth scrolling > > > > > * NETBEANS-1238 < > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1238 > > > > > > > > > HiDPI icons in tabcontrol and openide.awt modules for Windows > LAF > > > > > * NETBEANS-1260 < > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1260 > > > > > > > > > HiDPI icons in tabcontrol and openide.awt modules for Aqua > > (MacOS) > > > > LAF > > > > > * NETBEANS-602 < > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-602 > > > > > > > > Wrong module name detected with multi-release JAR > > > > > * NETBEANS-804 < > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-804 > > > > > > > > Update any dependent code for JDK11 Class-file format change > > > > > * NETBEANS-1252 < > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1252 > > > > > > > > > shifted cursor in output window when selecting text with > > > GDK_SCALE=2 > > > > > > > > > > I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1321 > in > > > > > order to track the release work. > > > > > > > > > > I'm about to clean up the code and create the first voting > candidate > > > > > tomorrow 1st of Oct 2018. > > > > > > > > > > Also try to look on this: > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1197 as its PR has > a > > > good > > > > > discussion onpossible critical issues for the release: > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/854 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Write access to GitHub NetBeans repo
Thanks everyone...sorry I did not have time to make it through all of the enterprise module licensing. I ran into some issues when the GitHub repo was reorganized, I believe, and lost some time there. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Sep 30, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > The build seems OK: > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/ > > I suggest you create the release10 branch and then produce the release > candidate as described in 'Producing a Release Candidate': > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README > > That means Apache NetBeans 10 will have all the clusters from Apache > NetBeans 9, plus 'php', 'webcommon', and 'groovy' -- and we leave the > 'enterprise' (i.e., Java/Jakarta EE) to define Apache NetBeans 11 (first > quarter next year). > > Any questions, just write and say so, there's several people on this > mailing list that will be able to advise and assist. > > Gj > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:20 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> In the page above, click the middle of the three services (under 'Our >> available services'), entitled 'Link GitHub and ASF accounts (required to >> push to GitHub)', which brings you to: >> >> https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/ >> >> Then you're at the place to get started linking your Apache ID to Apache >> NetBeans GitHub. >> >> Gj >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 5:53 PM Geertjan Wielenga < >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> https://gitbox.apache.org >>> >>> Go to the above to set up GitBox, I had assumed you had already done >>> that, which will give you access to Apache NetBeans GitHub. >>> >>> Please write back ASAP with any problems. >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 5:52 PM Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Wow, sorry, I assumed you had all that. >>>> >>>> You are listed here, so you should be all set: >>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/netbeans >>>> >>>> I.e., you should be able to log into that URL and see 'lkishalmi' is >>>> your Apache ID and that you are listed as a PPMC member and committer. >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 4:49 PM Laszlo Kishalmi < >>>> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> It seems I'm going to need a write access to the NetBeans GitHub repo >>>>> soon. I have my github user linked on id.apache.org, I'd assume that >>>>> I'd >>>>> have received an invitation to Apache organization (that has not >>>>> happened so far). Then I need to have the right acces for the repo. >>>>> >>>>> Could someone help me sorting this out? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
Re: Jakarta EE and Apache NetBeans 10
Hi Geertjan, Yes, I've not made it through the licensing for the Java EE modules as quickly as I had hoped to. There are a couple of particularly messy modules that I've been working with...but I will try to get through more this week. Thanks for following up...I appreciate it! On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > I see a lot of items still open in the 'enterprise' cluster when I look at > the Rat report: > > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/826/artifact/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > > Gj > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I've been trying to get through the licensing for the Java EE-related > > modules. Some of them are tough...no doubt. I've found some modules > that > > have dozens of files that need to be licensed (mostly test souces...but > not > > in Rat), and others include a few external dependencies that require > > special attention. I'll try to focus on getting through these licensing > > issues over the next week. > > > > Thanks > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 3:51 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > wrote: > > > > > Right now, it seems we're comfortable with JDK 11 and PHP, though we'd > be > > > very happy for Jakarta EE, Groovy, and JavaScript to be included -- > > > assuming people step up for real beyond sending e-mails about this. > I.e., > > > Junichi has clearly taken the leadership in terms of PHP and we're in a > > > good state here, if the same can be done for other clusters and soon, > > then > > > let's include those too for the November release, otherwise focus on > > those > > > for the next quarter, i.e., February 2019. > > > > > > That said, here's the starting point for the Wiki for Apache NetBeans > 10: > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 > > > > > > Please populate the above (e.g., put anything in the Miscellaneous page > > > that's not directly applicable to PHP and JDK 11) with your > enhancements, > > > features, and significant bug fixes. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, cool, and sorry for forgetting about that, Emmanuel. > > > > > > > > Could you put together everything you have done in this area? > > > > > > > > Have you put everything you've done as pull requests into the Apache > > > > NetBeans GitHub repo? > > > > > > > > How far off are we from having Java EE 8 support right now, i.e., > what > > > > would that entail? > > > > > > > > Sure, if we can take a swing at it and have clear direction and the > > time > > > > to do it for the November release, let's do it. > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:09 AM, ehsavoie < > emmanuel.hugon...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> I'm almost sure that i wrote some changes since 8.2 and I have more > > for > > > >> WildFly that have been resting in my local repo for a year. > > > >> Also we don't have support for javaEE8 so no Jakarta EE :( > > > >> We really should take a swing at this because this is coming back to > > me > > > a > > > >> lot this lack of 'native' support for JavaEE in NetBeans > > > >> -- > > > >> Emmanuel Hugonnet > > > >> http://www.ehsavoie.com > > > >> http://twitter.com/ehsavoie > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:11 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi all, > > > >> > > > > >> > Some (e.g., Josh) have argued we should include the enterprise > > cluster > > > >> in > > > >> > the upcoming release to support Jakarta EE. > > > >> > > > > >> > One point to realize here is that no development has been done in > > this > > > >> area > > > >> > and the functionality in GitHub right now is identical to that > > > provided > > > >> by > > > >> > 8.2 plugins. > > > >> > > > > >> > However, the challenges we’re going to run into probably with > > > >> > licensing-related issues, plus the simple fact that the enterprise > > > >> cluster > > > >> > is large and will add time in reviewing the release, might argue > > > against > > > >> > including it, and instead support Jakarta EE by including the 8.2 > > > update > > > >> > center registration in the release to simplify finding and > > installing > > > >> the > > > >> > related plugins. > > > >> > > > > >> > Plus maybe we could rename the too general name ‘enterprise’ with > > > >> ‘jakarta’ > > > >> > or ‘jakartaee’ as the name of the cluster, to make it clearer what > > it > > > >> > contains, and to explicitly support Jakarta EE. > > > >> > > > > >> > Gj > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Should the NetBeans CodeOne talks be mentioned on Apache site?
Hi Mark, That certainly is tempting. What a great way to see the city! I will keep it in mind for certain and I will let you know if I can meet up for the ride. Thanks Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:13 AM, mark stephens > wrote: > > Josh, > > Can we tempt you to a bike ride on sunday morning? > > Kind Regards, > > MArk > >> On 23 Sep 2018, at 03:00, Josh Juneau wrote: >> >> I've just had a change in plans and I will likely be attending Oracle Code >> One this year. If anyone needs help with a NetBeans talk then I'd be happy >> to assist. I'll definitely try to be in attendance at the Thirsty Bear on >> Saturday evening. >> >> Josh Juneau >> juneau...@gmail.com >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >> >>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Geertjan Wielenga >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have started putting a page together listing who of us will be at Code >>> One in San Francisco, together with sessions connected to Apache NetBeans >>> that we'd like to promote: >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Oracle+Code+One+2018 >>> >>> It's just a start, please fill in all the missing details. :-) >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> There’s no specific community days at all, it’s not NetBeans-specific, the >>>> event is structured a bit differently this year. >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018, mark stephens < >>>> marksteph...@idrsolutions.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We have 8 talks linked to NetBeans keyword at Upcoming CodeOne in San >>>>> Francisco (https://oracle.rainfocus.com/widget/oracle/oow18/catalogcod >>>>> eone18?elq_mid=118107=1426916872211192213815392413= >>>>> WWMK170418P00047C0001=netbeans). >>>>> >>>>> Sadly no NetBeans day this year :-( >>>>> >>>>> Should CodeOne and these talks/labs be mentioned on >>>>> https://netbeans.apache.org/community/events.html or anywhere else? >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> >>>>> MArk >>>>> - >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
Re: Activate Groovy support for NetBeans 10
+1 nice work! Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > Hi, > > with the update to 2.5.2 (PR still to be merged) , trait support and some > more bug fixes coming I would like to suggest Groovy to be included in the > NetBeans 10 release. > > Comments? > > If ok - I will provide the necessary changes to cluster.properties. > > -Sven
Re: Should the NetBeans CodeOne talks be mentioned on Apache site?
I've just had a change in plans and I will likely be attending Oracle Code One this year. If anyone needs help with a NetBeans talk then I'd be happy to assist. I'll definitely try to be in attendance at the Thirsty Bear on Saturday evening. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Sep 20, 2018, at 12:46 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have started putting a page together listing who of us will be at Code > One in San Francisco, together with sessions connected to Apache NetBeans > that we'd like to promote: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Oracle+Code+One+2018 > > It's just a start, please fill in all the missing details. :-) > > Gj > > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> There’s no specific community days at all, it’s not NetBeans-specific, the >> event is structured a bit differently this year. >> >> Gj >> >> >> On Tuesday, September 11, 2018, mark stephens < >> marksteph...@idrsolutions.com> wrote: >> >>> We have 8 talks linked to NetBeans keyword at Upcoming CodeOne in San >>> Francisco (https://oracle.rainfocus.com/widget/oracle/oow18/catalogcod >>> eone18?elq_mid=118107=1426916872211192213815392413= >>> WWMK170418P00047C0001=netbeans). >>> >>> Sadly no NetBeans day this year :-( >>> >>> Should CodeOne and these talks/labs be mentioned on >>> https://netbeans.apache.org/community/events.html or anywhere else? >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> MArk >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>> >>> >>> >>>
Re: Jakarta EE and Apache NetBeans 10
Hi All, I've been trying to get through the licensing for the Java EE-related modules. Some of them are tough...no doubt. I've found some modules that have dozens of files that need to be licensed (mostly test souces...but not in Rat), and others include a few external dependencies that require special attention. I'll try to focus on getting through these licensing issues over the next week. Thanks On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 3:51 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Right now, it seems we're comfortable with JDK 11 and PHP, though we'd be > very happy for Jakarta EE, Groovy, and JavaScript to be included -- > assuming people step up for real beyond sending e-mails about this. I.e., > Junichi has clearly taken the leadership in terms of PHP and we're in a > good state here, if the same can be done for other clusters and soon, then > let's include those too for the November release, otherwise focus on those > for the next quarter, i.e., February 2019. > > That said, here's the starting point for the Wiki for Apache NetBeans 10: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10 > > Please populate the above (e.g., put anything in the Miscellaneous page > that's not directly applicable to PHP and JDK 11) with your enhancements, > features, and significant bug fixes. > > Thanks, > > Gj > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Well, cool, and sorry for forgetting about that, Emmanuel. > > > > Could you put together everything you have done in this area? > > > > Have you put everything you've done as pull requests into the Apache > > NetBeans GitHub repo? > > > > How far off are we from having Java EE 8 support right now, i.e., what > > would that entail? > > > > Sure, if we can take a swing at it and have clear direction and the time > > to do it for the November release, let's do it. > > > > Gj > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:09 AM, ehsavoie > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> I'm almost sure that i wrote some changes since 8.2 and I have more for > >> WildFly that have been resting in my local repo for a year. > >> Also we don't have support for javaEE8 so no Jakarta EE :( > >> We really should take a swing at this because this is coming back to me > a > >> lot this lack of 'native' support for JavaEE in NetBeans > >> -- > >> Emmanuel Hugonnet > >> http://www.ehsavoie.com > >> http://twitter.com/ehsavoie > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 6:11 AM Geertjan Wielenga > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Some (e.g., Josh) have argued we should include the enterprise cluster > >> in > >> > the upcoming release to support Jakarta EE. > >> > > >> > One point to realize here is that no development has been done in this > >> area > >> > and the functionality in GitHub right now is identical to that > provided > >> by > >> > 8.2 plugins. > >> > > >> > However, the challenges we’re going to run into probably with > >> > licensing-related issues, plus the simple fact that the enterprise > >> cluster > >> > is large and will add time in reviewing the release, might argue > against > >> > including it, and instead support Jakarta EE by including the 8.2 > update > >> > center registration in the release to simplify finding and installing > >> the > >> > related plugins. > >> > > >> > Plus maybe we could rename the too general name ‘enterprise’ with > >> ‘jakarta’ > >> > or ‘jakartaee’ as the name of the cluster, to make it clearer what it > >> > contains, and to explicitly support Jakarta EE. > >> > > >> > Gj > >> > > >> > > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [VOTE] Accept donation Mojohaus NetBeans Maven Utilities
I agree +1 if we are able to fix grant issues that were mentioned. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Sep 7, 2018, at 1:29 PM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > If we can fix the grant problem so that ASF mentors etc. are ok I am > > +1 > > to have the code at Apache NetBeans > > -Sven > > Jose Ch schrieb am Fr., 7. Sep. 2018, 18:44: > >> +1 >> >> Regards >> Jose Luis Contreras >> >> >> El vie., 7 sept. 2018 a las 5:15, Eric Barboni () >> escribió: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Several maven related utilities (see below) for NetBeans are located in >>> mojohaus. Milos Kleint one of the main contributor is willing to donate >>> contribution to the Apache Netbeans project. >>> >>> Maven NetBeans plugins and libraries: >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/nbm-maven-plugin (plugin to allow mavenized >>> NetBeans build) >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/nb-repository-plugin (tools to populate >>> NetBeans >>> Artifacts to a repository) >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/nbm-shared (libraries) >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/nbm-maven-harness >>> >>> Maven NetBeans Archetypes: >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/nbm-archetype >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/nbm-suite-root >>> https://github.com/mojohaus/netbeans-platform-app-archetype >>> >>> This vote is to discover if the Apache NetBeans PPMC and community are in >>> favor of accepting this donation >>> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours: >>> [ ] +1, accept donation of Mojohaus NetBeans Maven Utilities as >> subproject >>> Apache NetBeans project >>> [ ] 0, no opinion >>> [ ] -1, reject donation because... >>> >>> Regards >>> Eric Barboni >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>
Re: [GROOVY] Should we update to latest stable Groovy version?
+1 on updating support to Groovy 2.5.2 On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 5:13 PM Sven Reimers wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking at spending some time to get a couple of enhancements for > Groovy support into NetBeans. But before doing this I am now considering > upgrading NetBeans support to Groovy 2.5.2, which has a new packaging > (groovy-all as an artifact is gone) and lots of other goodies. > > Any good reason not to try this? > > Does anybody now of implications with Grails or Gradle? > > Thanks for the feedback > > -Sven > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Rough schedule for the November release
Thanks for putting this together Geertjan. It looks like a solid roadmap. On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:06 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > See above, comments welcome! > > Thanks, > > Gj > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Review of libs.glassfish_logging
I am currently reviewing the libs.glassfish_logging module, and it contains the external library glassfish-logging-2.0.jar. I was going to add a glassfish-logging-2.0-notice.txt to the external folder, as well as adding the Apache license to the glassfish-logging-2.0-license.txt and binaries-list . However, I'm not quite sure what text to put into the notice txt since the library was originally written by Oracle and it is now being transferred to Eclipse. Please advise how to proceed. Thanks for your time...it is appreciated. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Proposal: Apache NetBeans 10 for November release
Thanks for the response Will. I certainly understand your position, whereby the Jakarta EE space is definitely very fluid at this point and there is no certain confirmation of a release date. I agree that we should not *hold up* the next Apache NetBeans release in an effort to try and get all of the Java EE modules into shape. That said, do we think it is possible to make a cut off date for inclusion of features into the Apache Netbeans 10 release? If we say that the cut off date is September 1st, then of course Java EE support will not be included in the release. However, if we say that October 1st is the cutoff, then maybe with lots of effort we could get the modules into shape on time. I know it will be lots of effort, but I'm just asking if we have any leeway here as far as feature inclusion. It would be great to say that Apache NetBeans 10 fully supports the development of Java EE 8 and Jakarta EE. BTW, I think that adding Java 11 and PHP support will be well more than enough new features to create a full release. I'm just a Java EE guy so I'm trying to take a community standpoint on that front. Thanks! On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 9:08 AM Will Hartung wrote: > I know there are a lot of modules that > > > go into Java EE support, so it will be tough to make it by November, but > I > > thought I should at least propose. > > > > Honestly, that's a good reason to delay it. > > There is a LOT afoot in the JEE space right now, as they're going through a > similar event as NB is. > > In the end, it's all a matter of who has the time and skills to do what. > Ideally the bulk of the JEE is going to just a build and release. But with > the disruption, I think another quarter won't hurt it. I don't know how > many folks, as eager as they may be, are going to be jumping head first in > to the new releases. > > We have solid 8.2 support for JEE, still, and the PHP and J11 sounds like > actual new growth, which is good. > > But, as I said, in the end, if someone does the work, and vets the JEE > stuff and makes it available, no reason NOT to release it. But if you > wanted to make a coordinated push, I think letting JEE settled down a bit > more would be good. > > Regards, > > Will Hartung > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Proposal: Apache NetBeans 10 for November release
That sounds great @ehsavoie...thanks! On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:35 AM ehsavoie wrote: > @Josh maybe I could give you an hand there on the WildFly part at least > (since we are nearing WF14 release I might have some time) > Cheers, > > -- > Emmanuel Hugonnet > http://www.ehsavoie.com > http://twitter.com/ehsavoie > > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 3:15 PM Josh Juneau wrote: > > > I think that keeping NetBeans moving with a more frequent release cadence > > is a good idea. I only question how much additional effort it may be to > > add Java EE support to Apache NetBeans 10. The reason I ask is because > > Jakarta EE is supposed to be nearing a release sometime soon, as it was > > targeted for third quarter, I believe. I think it would be great to have > > full support for Java EE in Apache NetBeans when Jakarta EE 8 is > released. > > I am working on reviews of the glassfish modules right now, and I can > move > > onto javaee and j2ee modules next. I know there are a lot of modules > that > > go into Java EE support, so it will be tough to make it by November, but > I > > thought I should at least propose. > > > > Thanks > > > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:04 AM Christian Lenz > > wrote: > > > > > Sounds ok to me. Use PHP a lot, not that much as I use JS and Angular > but > > > yeah. PHP + JS is to much, you think? > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > Von: Carl Mosca > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. August 2018 13:57 > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Betreff: Re: Proposal: Apache NetBeans 10 for November release > > > > > > That sounds like a good plan to me. I don't do a lot of PHP these days > > but > > > I do believe there's a significant NB following there. Moving to 10 > > > recognizing the next JDK support makes sense. > > > > > > Carl > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > For the November release, I propose that we focus specifically on PHP > > -- > > > > because those features are popular and because, thanks to Junichi and > > > Tomas > > > > Mysik, there are enhancements in that area since 8.2. > > > > > > > > Rather than trying to release everything that is in the 2nd donation, > > > which > > > > would be a lot of work, it would be better in my opinion to focus on > a > > > > specific subset instead, i.e., the PHP cluster. > > > > > > > > However, from the Java side there'd be a significant enhancement too > -- > > > JDK > > > > 11 support, i.e., pull requests for that have already been integrated > > or > > > > are in the list of pull requests. > > > > > > > > So --- the two drivers of the November release would be PHP and JDK > 11. > > > > > > > > And I propose that the release number to be 10 -- because of the fact > > > that > > > > a whole new JDK release is supported as well as a whole new feature > > set, > > > > i.e., PHP: that's a significant change, not a minor update, > justifying > > > the > > > > major release change, in my opinion. > > > > > > > > How does that sound? > > > > > > > > Related Wiki: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carl J. Mosca > > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Proposal: Apache NetBeans 10 for November release
I think that keeping NetBeans moving with a more frequent release cadence is a good idea. I only question how much additional effort it may be to add Java EE support to Apache NetBeans 10. The reason I ask is because Jakarta EE is supposed to be nearing a release sometime soon, as it was targeted for third quarter, I believe. I think it would be great to have full support for Java EE in Apache NetBeans when Jakarta EE 8 is released. I am working on reviews of the glassfish modules right now, and I can move onto javaee and j2ee modules next. I know there are a lot of modules that go into Java EE support, so it will be tough to make it by November, but I thought I should at least propose. Thanks On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:04 AM Christian Lenz wrote: > Sounds ok to me. Use PHP a lot, not that much as I use JS and Angular but > yeah. PHP + JS is to much, you think? > > > Cheers > > Chris > > Von: Carl Mosca > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. August 2018 13:57 > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Proposal: Apache NetBeans 10 for November release > > That sounds like a good plan to me. I don't do a lot of PHP these days but > I do believe there's a significant NB following there. Moving to 10 > recognizing the next JDK support makes sense. > > Carl > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 7:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > For the November release, I propose that we focus specifically on PHP -- > > because those features are popular and because, thanks to Junichi and > Tomas > > Mysik, there are enhancements in that area since 8.2. > > > > Rather than trying to release everything that is in the 2nd donation, > which > > would be a lot of work, it would be better in my opinion to focus on a > > specific subset instead, i.e., the PHP cluster. > > > > However, from the Java side there'd be a significant enhancement too -- > JDK > > 11 support, i.e., pull requests for that have already been integrated or > > are in the list of pull requests. > > > > So --- the two drivers of the November release would be PHP and JDK 11. > > > > And I propose that the release number to be 10 -- because of the fact > that > > a whole new JDK release is supported as well as a whole new feature set, > > i.e., PHP: that's a significant change, not a minor update, justifying > the > > major release change, in my opinion. > > > > How does that sound? > > > > Related Wiki: > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gj > > > > > -- > Carl J. Mosca > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2
Hi Geertjan, I'll add the wiki page. An hour or two later would work for me (13:00 CEST / 06:00 CST OR 14:00 CEST / 07:00 CST). I could also do 11:30 or 12:00 CST, but that would put you in CEST into the evening. Thanks On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:36 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Yes, please do. Thanks, great. > > At the same time, what would be a better time for those in the Americas to > meet? I.e., probably we need a meeting time for Europe, Americas, and APAC, > and then from meeting to meeting we’ll move to different timezones. > > Gj > > On Wednesday, August 22, 2018, Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Thanks for writing up the notes Geertjan. Can I create a wiki page to > post > > the notes for each meeting? It is difficult for me to attend the > meetings > > during the alloted time, but I can maintain a wiki page containing notes > if > > someone will send them after each meeting. > > > > Thanks > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:41 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < > > bdelacre...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga > > > wrote: > > > > ...Notes... > > > > > > Thank you! Having notes and links here allows everyone to participate, > > > without having to listen to long recordings. > > > > > > -Bertrand > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2
Thanks for writing up the notes Geertjan. Can I create a wiki page to post the notes for each meeting? It is difficult for me to attend the meetings during the alloted time, but I can maintain a wiki page containing notes if someone will send them after each meeting. Thanks On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:41 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > ...Notes... > > Thank you! Having notes and links here allows everyone to participate, > without having to listen to long recordings. > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"
Great idea! Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Hi all, > > In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on > uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we > suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for those > who have really contributed significantly over a particular period. > > I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd donation > relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst others, > have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls > > So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's > resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month, > August 2018", or something like that.) > > Thanks, > > Gj
Re: [GROOVY] Enhancements to groovy support
Hi Sven, I'd be interested in helping out as time allows. Thanks On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 4:58 PM John McDonnell wrote: > Not sure how I'll be set work wise in September but I'd be happy to learn > and help out if free or just learn from a distance if not. > > I do some stuff with Jenkinsfiles every so often at work and having better > groovy support NetBeans might help here. > > Reach out closer to the time and I'll know myself how I'm sorted then... > > Regards > > John > > On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 22:27, Sven Reimers wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > with Groovy support now donated and in master I want to come back to > > something I started a long time ago: > > > > http://wiki.netbeans.org/MakeGroovyInNetBeansGreatAgain > > > > The results are some patches sitting around i various branches somewhere > > > > Things I started work on > > - support for traits > > - flow typing (guess types where Groovy just sees Object) > > - hint infrastructure (early prototype) > > - .. probably more things just escaping me now > > > > Anyone interested in rebooting this effort? > > > > I hope to get the change rebased to master early September. > > > > I think it would be nice to have a wiki page collecting ideas how to > > improve the support and afterwards start to file concrete issues to get > > this started. > > > > Anyone interested in learning stuff about CSL, editors, parsers, Groovy > > internals? This is the place to be if you want to have some real fun... > > > > - Sven > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
Hello Everyone, I've spoken with Jonathan from Apress, and he said that if we wanted to open source the book, then Apress may not be the correct choice. They no longer work on open sourcing their books, but he said he could understand why that may be an option that is on the table. He would likely be interested in moving forward with an Apache NetBeans book project that is written by many authors, and we are supposed to keep him posted with our decision. Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:42 AM, constantin drabo > wrote: > > Hello John , > Me too. I did not find it. > Constantin > > ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie > enti??re dans un berceau. ?? > - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de > l'a??rospatiale modernes. > > De : Delfi Ramirez > Envoyé : mercredi 8 août 2018 04:27 > À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Cc : John Kostaras > Objet : RE: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book > > Hi John, Hi all: > > Same issue, uh, no group found. At G > > uh > > > > Delfi Ramirez > > Segonquart Studio > > https://segonquart.net > > From: Josh Juneau > Sent: 08 August 2018 12:43 > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Cc: John Kostaras > Subject: Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book > > Hi John, > > Hope you are well. I tried to search for the google group < > netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some > reason. Can you please send an invite? > > Thanks > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo > wrote: > >> Hello John, >> I vote for : >> >> *google group mailing list : < >> netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> >> *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache >> NetBeans 9 Apress Book] >> *and zoom for the realtime chat >> >> Constantin Drabo >> >> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie >> enti??re dans un berceau. ?? >> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de >> l'a??rospatiale modernes. >> >> De : John Kostaras >> Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28 >> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book >> >> Thanks for your reply Josh. >> >> I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or >> the creator of this workspace could do it. >> >> I guess first we need to: >> >> - decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the >> following: >> - slack channel >> - google group mailing list >> >> - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache >> NetBeans 9 Apress Book] >> - other (please advise) >> - and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write >> - an Apress book >> - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide >> what to do with the money if the book is not free) >> - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another >> wiki) >> >> Looking forward your feedback. >> >> John. >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book. I agree with >>> the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters. I >>> like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are >> available >>> now to get an idea of coverage. Those interested in working on the book >>> should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of >>> contents from some of the other available books. I believe that would >>> ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters. >>> >>> To answer your questions: >>> >>> 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think >>> that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group. Perhaps as a channel >>> added into the existing NetBeans slack group. >>> >>> 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book! I think this is a >>> great idea. >>> >>> 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide >> accounts) >&
Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle
I believe that people do like more frequent releases. Once per quarter, let's say, seems to be a good fit. I do not believe that NetBeans release number should be bound to the supported Java release because Apache NetBeans 9.0 was just released with JDK 10 support...so that would be a cause for confusion. I think that the major release number should change once per year, say in August. If we were to have a quarterly release, then Apache NetBeans 9.1 would be next release that would occur near the end of this calendar year, followed by 9.2 and 9.3 in the subsequent quarters. That would mean that Apache NetBeans 10 would be released next August. I personally think it may become too convoluted to try and rate major releases vs minor releases in an effort to increment the release number. Of course, using this logic it is possible to have Apache NetBeans 9.0.1, Apache NetBeans 9.1.1, etc, if a critical update needed to be released for some reason. Thanks for reading, I appreciate your time. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 10:34 AM Oliver Rettig wrote: > Thanks Peter for clarification. > > Isnt it possible to have an apache update center, which includes only > apache-netbeans-ide > updates? Or is this incompatible with the apache release procedure? > > > Badly worded by me, module update issue is where the update center will > be > > located > > > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:54 Oliver Rettig, wrote: > > > > Phycologically people feel they have a more modern system if it > updates > > > > more frequently. There should be no reason why minor items can't be > > > > released quickly in a more agile way. I suspect though we need to > move > > > > > > out > > > > > > > of incubator status for that because there are a lot of rounds of > > > > > > approval > > > > > > > before code gets released. > > > > You could have large core releases once or twice a year and many > minor > > > > updates imbetween. > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > This is a personal thing but I would like to get the updates without > > > > downloading a new version of the ide every time. Letting the ide auto > > > > update would be nice. I guess that could only happen when the module > > > > > > update > > > > > > > issue is resolved > > > > > > Please point me to that module update issue? > > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:24 Geertjan Wielenga, > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Also, Apache NetBeans is more than Java-focused, and the question > is > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > whether such prominence for Java should be given to the extent that > > > > > the > > > > > JDK > > > > > releases should be followed at all, i.e., whether this should be an > > > > > > aim of > > > > > > > > the project. It's certainly open to discussion but definitely not a > > > > > > given. > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Just as a quick FYI: Both JDK 9 and JDK 10 are supported in > Apache > > > > > > NetBeans 9, i.e., no, we've not skipped JDK 10. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Chuck Davis > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> To me it makes sense to have NB reflect the level of Java > > > > > > implemented. > > > > > > > > >> For > > > > > >> example, features of JDK 11 can be added incrementally to NB > 9.1, > > > > > > 9.2, > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
Hi John, Hope you are well. I tried to search for the google group < netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> and could not find it for some reason. Can you please send an invite? Thanks On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:40 PM constantin drabo wrote: > Hello John, > I vote for : > > *google group mailing list : < > netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com> > *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache > NetBeans 9 Apress Book] > *and zoom for the realtime chat > > Constantin Drabo > > ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie > enti??re dans un berceau. ?? > - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de > l'a??rospatiale modernes. > > De : John Kostaras > Envoyé : mercredi 1 août 2018 22:28 > À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Objet : Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book > > Thanks for your reply Josh. > > I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or > the creator of this workspace could do it. > > I guess first we need to: > >- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the >following: > - slack channel > - google group mailing list > > - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache > NetBeans 9 Apress Book] > - other (please advise) >- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write > - an Apress book > - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide > what to do with the money if the book is not free) > - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another > wiki) > > Looking forward your feedback. > > John. > On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book. I agree with > > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters. I > > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are > available > > now to get an idea of coverage. Those interested in working on the book > > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of > > contents from some of the other available books. I believe that would > > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters. > > > > To answer your questions: > > > > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think > > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group. Perhaps as a channel > > added into the existing NetBeans slack group. > > > > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book! I think this is a > > great idea. > > > > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide > accounts) > > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts. > > > > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan > > Gennick...at least in the beginning. I'll reach out to him and provide > > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding. > > > > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along! > > > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme > > > > > > Please consider > > > > > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw > > support, jshell, etc." > > > > > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due > to > > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or > > through git collab > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > Delfi Ramirez > > > > > > Segonquart Studio > > > > > > https://segonquart.net > > > > > > From: John Kostaras > > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02 > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book > > > > > > Hallo again, > > > > > > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort > > > needed in a better way. > > > > > > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider > > in > >
Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache
Hi Geertjan, Can we not publish these somewhere on netbeans.apache.org? Perhaps netbeans.apache.org/javadoc. I think at the point of release, the updated javadoc should be published to the site. It is probably important to retain existing previous versions of the javadoc also, for those who remain on previous releases. I think we should begin with Apache NetBeans 9.0 javadoc and move forward with this strategy. Then we could have links such as the following: - netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/9.0/ - netbeans.apache.org/javadoc/9.1/ - etc. Thanks On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:35 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > We need to think about where to put our javadoc: > > http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/ > > This is how to build it: > > ant -buildjavadoc > > All the javadoc is already donated, since it comes from the donated source > files. > > One of the ZIPs generated from the above consists of HTML files. > > Where/how/when can/shall we publish these? > > And this should be a standard part of the release cycle. > > Thanks, > > Gj > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
Hi John, I am okay with continuing to exchange ideas via email using the [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] header. I also am in favor of a dedicated Slack channel if one is created. I also agree that the vote for where the book is to be published should occur in a new thread using the header, or in a Slack channel. Thanks John, I appreciate you taking a lead role in this effort. On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:29 AM John Kostaras wrote: > Thanks for your reply Josh. > > I can't create a new channel in netbeans.slack.com so I guess Geertjan or > the creator of this workspace could do it. > > I guess first we need to: > >- decide how we want to exchange ideas, so please vote for one of the >following: > - slack channel > - google group mailing list > > - dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org but using a header like [Apache > NetBeans 9 Apress Book] > - other (please advise) >- and once this is decided then vote in there whether we wish to write > - an Apress book > - a LeanPub <https://leanpub.com/> book (but then we need to decide > what to do with the money if the book is not free) > - a free community (wiki?) book (e.g. using github.io or another > wiki) > > Looking forward your feedback. > > John. > On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 at 05:48, Josh Juneau wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book. I agree with > > the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters. I > > like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are > available > > now to get an idea of coverage. Those interested in working on the book > > should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of > > contents from some of the other available books. I believe that would > > ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters. > > > > To answer your questions: > > > > 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think > > that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group. Perhaps as a channel > > added into the existing NetBeans slack group. > > > > 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book! I think this is a > > great idea. > > > > 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide > accounts) > > that we authors can use for collaboration efforts. > > > > If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan > > Gennick...at least in the beginning. I'll reach out to him and provide > > your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding. > > > > Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along! > > > > Josh Juneau > > juneau...@gmail.com > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > > > > > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme > > > > > > Please consider > > > > > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw > > support, jshell, etc." > > > > > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due > to > > the fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or > > through git collab > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > Delfi Ramirez > > > > > > Segonquart Studio > > > > > > https://segonquart.net > > > > > > From: John Kostaras > > > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02 > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book > > > > > > Hallo again, > > > > > > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort > > > needed in a better way. > > > > > > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider > > in > > > my opinion. > > > > > > 1. *How we can cooperate.* > > > 1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in > > order > > > to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of > > authors > > > of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list. > > > 2. I have also created a google group ( > > > netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join > (I > > > 'll also try to invite some of those in this thr
Re: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book
Hi John, Thanks for sending the detailed proposed TOC for the book. I agree with the three-part book, and I also am in-line with the proposed chapters. I like your idea of looking at the various NetBeans books that are available now to get an idea of coverage. Those interested in working on the book should send ideas on proposed chapters after looking at the table of contents from some of the other available books. I believe that would ensure we have a solid lineup of chapters. To answer your questions: 1) With respect to collaboration, I like the email idea, and I also think that we should start a NetBeans book Slack group. Perhaps as a channel added into the existing NetBeans slack group. 2) Thanks for starting a mailing list for the book! I think this is a great idea. 3). Apress uses Microsoft Office online (and they should provide accounts) that we authors can use for collaboration efforts. If we go with Apress for the book, we will be working with Jonathan Gennick...at least in the beginning. I'll reach out to him and provide your contact information John, if the group is interested in proceeding. Thanks again...looking forward to moving this along! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Aug 1, 2018, at 5:10 AM, Delfi Ramirez wrote: > > > > > Agreed to most of the proposed index / scheme > > Please consider > > "* Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans *: Chapter 3: New features, jigsaw support, > jshell, etc." > > To be indexed in Part 3, or part 2, for academic purposes, maybe. due to the > fact that the "New features" section can grow in a second donation or through > git collab > > cheers > > > Delfi Ramirez > > Segonquart Studio > > https://segonquart.net > > From: John Kostaras > Sent: 01 August 2018 10:02 > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: [Apache NetBeans 9 Apress Book] Starting the new book > > Hallo again, > > and thank you for your feedback. I couldn't have described the effort > needed in a better way. > > In order to somehow start, here are few things that we need to consider in > my opinion. > > 1. *How we can cooperate.* > 1. I suggest that we use a header like the one in this email in order > to make it easier to categorise the emails targeting the group of authors > of the book, and don't disturb others in the dev mailing list. > 2. I have also created a google group ( > netbeans-9-community-b...@googlegroups.com) which you could join (I > 'll also try to invite some of those in this thread that are > interested in > contributing). > 3. Are you aware of any web co-authoring tool? There are a number > wiki-like ones, free and non-free, but I don't know of any that > we can keep > our work restricted of the world. I use for example github.io. I > don't know if Apress can offer us such an infrastructure, i.e. a > wiki that > can be private to its members to co-author a book? Bertrand mentions that > Any PoC in Apress Josh? > 2. *Book structure* > 1. We also need to decide on the book structure. Geertjan already > proposed to split it into three parts, each of > which could be split into about 5 chapters: > Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans > Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans > Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans > 2. We need to decide what will these 5x3 = 15 chapters are going to > be and who writes what. > 1. E.g. thanks to Oliver: > 2. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8 > https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide > - new language support > - some available language additions > - useful available external plugins > 3. Thanks to Milos here is a lot of material on NetBeans Platform > Cookbook <http://wiki.netbeans.org/BookNBPlatformCookbook> which > we could use as a base for some chapters rewriting them to NB > 9 (again for > Part 2) > 4. I 'll do a search and provide a list of all available NetBeans > books published so far, so that we could have an idea what > has been out > there, and maybe give more ideas for chapters. > > Here is a very draft proposal of the various chapters, but we could discuss > of course: > > *Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans* > Chapter 1: What is NetBeans. A short history of NetBeans. Apache NetBeans. > Distinction of NetBeans platform and NetBeans IDE. New features support in > version 9. How do download and install Apache NetBeans 9 > Chapter 2: Getting Started with NetBeans. Layout, editing f
Re: [DISCUSS] Integration of 2nd donation
Looking forward to getting started with the work on this 2nd donation. On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 3:09 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Is there any objection to merging the 2nddonation branch into master today? > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/2ndDonation > > Gj > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 9:44 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Is there anything stopping us from merging the 2nd donation branch into > > master? > > > > If not, let's do it, then take a look at the Rat report after the first > > build that includes the branch, and see what kind and how many problems > are > > identified and how to solve them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Antonio wrote: > > > >> That's easy: I still own one of the NetBeans Day in 2004 somewhere... > >> > >> El 26/07/2018 a las 22:58, Emilian Bold escribió: > >> > >>> We just need some tshirts to gift people :-) > >>> > >>> --emi > >>> > >>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >>> On 26 July 2018 11:57 PM, Antonio wrote: > >>> > >>> Yep, but on august. Let's call it Hacktaugustfest or something :-) > >>>> > >>>> El 26/07/2018 a las 22:40, Emilian Bold escribió: > >>>> > >>>> Isn't this what we did with #Hacktoberfest 2017? > >>>>> --emi > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> ----- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
Hi Emilian, A book is a significant investment in time, but dividing up chapters will certainly make a big difference. However, in the end it is a great accomplishment that does pay...albeit very little. Here are the stages to writing a book if we go though Apress. - First Draft - Technical Reviewer Reads - Second Draft (incorporate feedback from reviewer) - Editor Review - Third Draft (incorporate feedback from editor) - Proof Read As you can see, there are several steps. Even if you only write a chapter or two, you will be re-reading it and editing it a few times. I feel that if we go through Apress they provide a great infrastructure for us. They will provide a project coordinator to help keep us on track, and they also provide an editor. If we are unable to find a technical reviewer (I am sure we can have someone in our community do it), then they also provide that. The tech reviewer also does receive payment on a per-page basis. Lastly, Apress will provide marketing for the book, and they'll distribute free copies of the book to the authors. The book is likely to be a little bumpy, with respect to transition, if we have multiple authors. However, the goal will likely be to make it a book that can be started at any chapter...not read from front to back. Each chapter will have its own beginning and end...and that way it will be a much more cohesive book to the reader. You will not make a great deal of money with the book. However, it is a great accomplishment and you will likely learn a little bit while writing. That is one of the reasons I enjoy writing Java Recipes and Java EE Recipes books...I have to stay on top of the latest in the Java space. It would be great to have you and everyone else who is interested involved in a book for NetBeans. One or two chapters per person is not going to be too huge of a time investment...not at all like writing an entire book solo. Hope this helps. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 21, 2018, at 1:39 AM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > I would be interested in a book but I'm curious what kind of effort this > involves? How much time does a book generally take (I know, it's not an exact > science, but any time range helps)? > > If we publish a book as a group we should think about the fact that the tone > / style of each chapter might come out differently. Perhaps the editor takes > care of unifying this? Also, some people might drop out. > > I assume there is no real money to be made in books, correct? > > I also doubt it makes much business sense even as a self-promotion, so it's > more a labour of love. > > --emi > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >> On 17 July 2018 11:58 PM, Josh Juneau wrote: >> >> I've just briefly touched base with Apress on the idea and the editor I >> spoke to sounds very interested. He says that they can divide the book up >> amongst any number of authors, and also do bylines for each of the chapters >> so that the respective authors will be noted. Typically in this situation >> there is one person who acts as the lead on the project. That way the >> editors and project coordinators at Apress can work with the lead, rather >> than all of the separate authors. >> >> Anyone interested in taking lead on the book? If so then I can get you in >> touch with the editor and we can get the details of each author/chapter, >> etc. worked out. >> >> Thanks >> >> Josh Juneau >> >> juneau...@gmail.com >> >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >> >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >> >>> On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 AM, Delfi Ramirez del...@delfiramirez.info wrote: >>> >>> +1 Huang Kai >>> >>> A wonder of myself to the community. Is there exist any intention or >>> interest to include JSF in the topics -- chapters, subchapters -- of the >>> book? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Delfi Ramirez >>> >>> Segonquart Studio >>> >>> https://segonquart.net >>> >>> From: huang kai >>> >>> Sent: 17 July 2018 10:30 >>> >>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> >>> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book >>> >>> Hi, all >>> >>> I live in china and have been using netbeans for swing and java ee dev >>> >>> for about 10 years. I think I can help translate the book to chinese, >>> >>> let's make this great platform speading more faster. >>> >>> cheers. >&
Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
Hi everyone, I do not personally have much experience with open source (free) books. However, for the Jython book we were able to use an online copy of it on the Jython wiki. Not sure if we could do something similar here. John, if you are interested in becoming the lead then that is great. I can work with you to get in touch with the editor to get the project started. We should decide as a community first on how we want this book to be published...vis Apress or other means? Personally I have worked with Apress many times now and they are very accommodating. However, I am open to looking at a free alternative if the group would rather go that route. Thanks Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 18, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Delfi Ramirez wrote: > > Hi all, Hi Pete: > > I guess, there may be a previous formal written contract between the writers > ( our community) and the publishing company, (APress or whoever). > > If any of the writers ( code is text, text are strings, remember) has a > formal contract with his/her software company he/she should ask for the > permission to act on her/his personal behalf. > > Money you pay for a physical book covers the expenses of print, logistics ( > storage , delivering) and marketing. It also covers the licenses and , if > accorded, the rights of the publisher. > > Et cetera. > > Hope it helps. > > Cheers > > > > Delfi Ramirez > > Segonquart Studio > > https://segonquart.net > > From: Peter Steele > Sent: 18 July 2018 20:17 > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book > > I had a look at Apress and there are quite a few books on netbeans (one > already that uses Netbeans 9 for its demos!). They all cost money > (unsurprisingly), I was wondering how that would fit in to a community > written book? > > I don't have any expertise to add myself (I'm kind of waiting till things > stabilise to a standard development life cycle before investing some time > in to adding enhancements) but was interested in how it would work. > > Is it better to actually just write a free book? Or do Apress bring a lot > to the venture? > >> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:22 Mario Schroeder, wrote: >> >> Hi Miloš, >> >> that what you describe is what I also thought about. I got an book about NB >> too, but the samples there don't use the annotations and some classes are >> even deprecated. So an update to the latest version of the platform would >> be great. I could be your copilot if you need help in reviews and >> correction. >> >> Regards, >> Mario >> >> Miloš Šilhánek schrieb am Mi., 18. Juli 2018, >> 17:54: >> >>> Hi, >>> I was been interested some years ago in NetBeans Platform. I organized >>> translation from English to Czech and cowrote a NetBeans Platform >>> Cookbook >>> which were not realized - it is on NB wiki pages. >>> >>> So I leaved it - because of time and the need of application based on NB >>> Platform disappears in my work. >>> Now is all by browser. :-(. But NBP is suitable for many application as >>> the >>> showcase shows. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The book was made for NB 6.9.1 and tested for 7.1. Many features were >>> moved >>> to annotations in this time. We both had no time to upgrade it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> My English is poor so I could upgrade these examples or test new >> examples. >>> >>> Milos >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Původní e-mail -- >>> Od: Delfi Ramirez >>> Komu: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org < >> dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> Datum: 16. 7. 2018 13:56:18 >>> Předmět: RE: Apache NetBeans Apress Book >>> "Hi All: >>> >>> Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book. >>> >>> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a >>> single translator for the whole community content. >>> >>> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we >>> may >>> able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this world >>> wide world we live in >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> Delfi Ramirez >>> >>> Segonquart Studio >>> >>> https://segonquart.net
Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
I've just briefly touched base with Apress on the idea and the editor I spoke to sounds very interested. He says that they can divide the book up amongst any number of authors, and also do bylines for each of the chapters so that the respective authors will be noted. Typically in this situation there is one person who acts as the lead on the project. That way the editors and project coordinators at Apress can work with the lead, rather than all of the separate authors. Anyone interested in taking lead on the book? If so then I can get you in touch with the editor and we can get the details of each author/chapter, etc. worked out. Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 17, 2018, at 3:40 AM, Delfi Ramirez wrote: > > +1 Huang Kai > > A wonder of myself to the community. Is there exist any intention or interest > to include JSF in the topics -- chapters, subchapters -- of the book? > > Cheers > > Delfi Ramirez > > Segonquart Studio > > https://segonquart.net > > From: huang kai > Sent: 17 July 2018 10:30 > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book > > Hi, all > > I live in china and have been using netbeans for swing and java ee dev > for about 10 years. I think I can help translate the book to chinese, > let's make this great platform speading more faster. > > cheers. > > Kain Huang > > >> On 7/16/2018 7:53 PM, Delfi Ramirez wrote: >> Hi All: >> >> Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written book. >> >> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of a >> single translator for the whole community content. >> >> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we may >> able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this world >> wide world we live in >> >> Cheers >> >> >> Delfi Ramirez >> >> Segonquart Studio >> >> https://segonquart.net >> >> From: Oliver Rettig >> Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47 >> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book >> >> Hi all, >> >> I like the idea of a community-written book very much. This can encourage >> people to join >> our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project ... >> For me the >> community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and >> rarely with eclipse. >> >> I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5: >> >> https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/ >> >> and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is: >> better not to write >> such books alone. >> >> It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a community-written >> Netbeans book, or >> may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to have a >> german >> version. >> >> But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific >> communities typically you >> have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a lot >> of work: to defines the >> chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to push the >> authors to deliver >> in the timeline. >> >> An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience with >> the Tomcat >> book was that the publisher was a really great help in formatting and >> proofreading. And a >> publisher can be a very big help in invertising for apache netbeans. >> >> But it should be also possible to write the book without a publisher at our >> own. In this case >> we can have an open-pdf-Version of the book. Maye we can have this too with >> a publisher? >> >> best regards >> Oliver >> >> >>> I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache >>> NetBeans. I personally do not have enough time to devote to another book >>> right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer >>> group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book >>> (perhaps a collaborative effort). >>> >>> I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress that >>> the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but maybe a >>> book project could start this fall. There are no timelines right >>> now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE. >>> >>> If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list of >>> names together to send along to Apress. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Josh Juneau >>> juneau...@gmail.com >>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >> >> >> > >
Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
Great ideas! +1 for splitting the book into parts. Once everyone has had an opportunity to provide their input in this thread, I will approach Apress with these ideas. Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 16, 2018, at 4:25 PM, Mario Schroeder wrote: > > NetBeans is a great platform to write desktop applications. I would also > include a tutorial how to build an application based on the lasted APIs. > > Oliver Rettig schrieb am Mo., 16. Juli 2018, 23:17: > >> +1 for the main structure >> >> I think Part 2 should include: >> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4k5JpluJM8 >> https://www.slideshare.net/GeertjanWielenga/extending-nbide >> - new language support >> - some available language additions >> - useful available external plugins >>> Broadly, I think such a book should be split into three parts, each of >>> which could be split into about 5 chapters: >>> >>> Part 1: Using Apache NetBeans >>> Part 2: Extending Apache NetBeans >>> Part 3: Contributing to Apache NetBeans >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Delfi Ramirez >> wrote: >>>> Hi All: >>>> >>>> Agreed there is the need of a chapter-by-chapter community written >> book. >>>> >>>> Count me in. Even if there is the need for the book, once written, of >> a >>>> single translator for the whole community content. >>>> >>>> Even everyone of us has English as a mother tongue or second tongue, we >>>> may able to reach and target new markets and new loyal fellows in this >>>> world wide world we live in >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> Delfi Ramirez >>>> >>>> Segonquart Studio >>>> >>>> https://segonquart.net >>>> >>>> From: Oliver Rettig >>>> Sent: 16 July 2018 13:47 >>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>> Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I like the idea of a community-written book very much. This can >> encourage >>>> people to join >>>> our great community and it show that netbeans is now a apache project >> ... >>>> For me the >>>> community is one of the most important facts to work with netbeans and >>>> rarely with eclipse. >>>> >>>> I have some experience with writing a book for Tomcat 5: >>>> >>>> https://www.rheinwerk-verlag.de/tomcat-5_700/ >>>> >>>> and the most important thing I have learned from this book project is: >>>> better not to write >>>> such books alone. >>>> >>>> It would be a pleasure for me to write a chapter for a >> community-written >>>> Netbeans book, or >>>> may be to translate from english to german some parts, if we want to >> have >>>> a german >>>> version. >>>> >>>> But I have less experience in organzing such things. In scientific >>>> communities typically you >>>> have an editor or a small team of editors. Their job is often really a >> lot >>>> of work: to defines the >>>> chapters/articles, to find people who can write the articles and to >> push >>>> the authors to deliver >>>> in the timeline. >>>> >>>> An other question is where and how to publish the book. My experience >> with
Re: Apache NetBeans Apress Book
Thanks everyone for the responses, thus far. I agree that even if there is a small changeset between NetBeans 8.2 and Apache NetBeans 9.0, there are enough differences to add value. Also just a book including Apache NetBeans in the title is a must. Id be happy to author a chapter is we decide to have a community-written book. Would also be beneficial to include a chapter on contributing, building from source, etc.. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 14, 2018, at 3:25 PM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > +1 to Gj ideas... > > -Sven > > Geertjan Wielenga schrieb am > Sa., 14. Juli 2018, 19:35: > >> The first Apache NetBeans release definitely needs a book. And, yes, the >> 9.0 release brings many new features to the end users — Jigsaw, JShell, >> ‘var’ integration... >> >> Maybe we could work on the book as a community, e.g., a different person >> assigned to each chapter, fir example. >> >> Gj >> >>> On Saturday, July 14, 2018, John Kostaras wrote: >>> >>> Good idea. But what more will it add to the existing bibliography, as it >>> doesn't bring many new features to the end users? >>> >>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 at 17:26, Josh Juneau wrote: >>>> >>>> I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache >>>> NetBeans. I personally do not have enough time to devote to another >> book >>>> right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer >>>> group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book >>>> (perhaps a collaborative effort). >>>> >>>> I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress >> that >>>> the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but >> maybe a >>>> book project could start this fall. There are no timelines right >>>> now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE. >>>> >>>> If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list >>> of >>>> names together to send along to Apress. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Josh Juneau >>>> juneau...@gmail.com >>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 >>>> >>> >>
Apache NetBeans Apress Book
I've been approached by Apress regarding interest in a book on Apache NetBeans. I personally do not have enough time to devote to another book right now, so I wanted to send a note to the Apache NetBeans developer group to see if there are any developers interested in authoring a book (perhaps a collaborative effort). I know things are very busy right now, and I've already told Apress that the main focus is the release of Apache NetBeans 9 right now, but maybe a book project could start this fall. There are no timelines right now...just interest in a book on the new open Apache NetBeans IDE. If anyone is interested then reply to this message and I can get a list of names together to send along to Apress. Thanks Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Welcome screen and 9.0 branding
Thanks Emilian...I think that looks great. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 7, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > Here it is with the cherry-picked commit from PR583 and my tweaks: > https://imgur.com/a/2UHAsqh > > I think it's looking better. > > --emi > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >> On 7 July 2018 8:22 PM, Emilian Bold >> wrote: >> >> I was talking about something more extensive. >> >> I'm no designer but I could come up with this: https://imgur.com/a/9raqsSa >> >> Note the background underneath 'Learn and Discover' and the current tab >> being green. >> >> --emi >> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> >>> On 7 July 2018 6:25 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID wrote: >>> >>> But if I remember correctly we already have right now a PR for the Welcome >>> >>> screen in ‘main’, cherry pick it to ‘release90’ and we’re done. I’d vote to >>> >>> not do this for this release if it is more involved than cherry picking. >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018, Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch.invalid >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The designer we have should also help us with the welcome screen as we >>>> >>>> need some new color palette (right now the Welcome screen is using a blue >>>> >>>> color palette from an older branding) and some new image (for example, >>>> >>>> under 'What's New' there's a background image). >>>> >>>> --emi >>>> >>>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >>>> >>>>> On 7 July 2018 6:01 PM, Kai Uwe Pel kaiuwe...@asia.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>> I fully agree with Brett ! >>>>> >>>>> Kai >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/7/2018 4:51 PM, Brett Ryan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally I felt after seeing the new splash screen I thought it >>>>>> >>>>>> looked brilliant but did feel the welcome screen detracted the freshness. >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s highly important that branding is consistent as this is the image of >>>>>> >>>>>> netbeans. >>>>> >>>>>> I vote not to wait and have this come in ASAP. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2018, at 00:41, Geertjan Wielenga >>>>>>> >>>>>>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve been using the vote candidate 2 that Emilian announced >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yesterday and >>>>> >>>>>>> am becoming convinced that the only really missing aspect is the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rebranding >>>>> >>>>>>> of the Welcome screen. It seems like a small thing but creates a big >>>>>>> >>>>>>> impact >>>>> >>>>>>> to have the correct icons there too and we have such a pull request, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> only >>>>> >>>>>>> we didn’t cherry pick to release90 branch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The links in the Welcome screen come from an external file that is at >>>>>>> >>>>>>> netbeans.org that will be part of the 3rd donation. The point is >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that that >>>>> >>>>>>> file can be edited externally, i.e., that’s not part of the Apache >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NetBeans >>>>> >>>>>>> sources and can be updated anytime. For example, I added several >>>>>>> >>>>>>> news items >>>>> >>>>>>> today and will update the Video link there too etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, the question is should we put together a new voting candidate so >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that >>>>> >>>>>>> we can
Re: Welcome screen and 9.0 branding
I fully agree with Geertjan and Brett +1. I love the new icon in the dock and on the splash screen...would be great to see the new branding on the Welcome screen as well. However, it can wait if more is involved than cherry picking and easily updating the Welcome screen. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 10:25 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > But if I remember correctly we already have right now a PR for the Welcome > screen in ‘main’, cherry pick it to ‘release90’ and we’re done. I’d vote to > not do this for this release if it is more involved than cherry picking. > > Gj > > > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018, Emilian Bold invalid> > wrote: > > > The designer we have should also help us with the welcome screen as we > > need some new color palette (right now the Welcome screen is using a blue > > color palette from an older branding) and some new image (for example, > > under 'What's New' there's a background image). > > > > --emi > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > > > On 7 July 2018 6:01 PM, Kai Uwe Pel wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I fully agree with Brett ! > > > > > > Kai > > > > > > On 7/7/2018 4:51 PM, Brett Ryan wrote: > > > > > > > Personally I felt after seeing the new splash screen I thought it > > looked brilliant but did feel the welcome screen detracted the freshness. > > It’s highly important that branding is consistent as this is the image of > > netbeans. > > > > > > > > I vote not to wait and have this come in ASAP. > > > > > > > > > On 8 Jul 2018, at 00:41, Geertjan Wielenga > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I’ve been using the vote candidate 2 that Emilian announced > > yesterday and > > > > > > > > > > am becoming convinced that the only really missing aspect is the > > rebranding > > > > > > > > > > of the Welcome screen. It seems like a small thing but creates a > big > > impact > > > > > > > > > > to have the correct icons there too and we have such a pull > request, > > only > > > > > > > > > > we didn’t cherry pick to release90 branch. > > > > > > > > > > The links in the Welcome screen come from an external file that is > at > > > > > > > > > > netbeans.org that will be part of the 3rd donation. The point is > > that that > > > > > > > > > > file can be edited externally, i.e., that’s not part of the Apache > > NetBeans > > > > > > > > > > sources and can be updated anytime. For example, I added several > > news items > > > > > > > > > > today and will update the Video link there too etc. > > > > > > > > > > So, the question is should we put together a new voting candidate > so > > that > > > > > > > > > > we can then include the updated/rebranded Welcome screen? Or should > > we wait > > > > > > > > > > for more/other issues to be found first? Or do we not care that > much > > about > > > > > > > > > > the Welcome screen for this release? > > > > > > > > > > Any comments welcome, > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans. > incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator. > apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > >
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 2]
+1 Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 3:50 AM, Emilian Bold < emilian.b...@protonmail.ch.invalid> wrote: > Hi all, > > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)! > > If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started on > gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can release > this version. This build will also undergo validation through NetCAT. > > Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) constitutes all the modules in the Apache > NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the > underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that provide > the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans. > > In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE > development. > > Build artifacts available here: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2 > > The specific artifact to be voted on: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/incubating- > netbeans-java-9.0-source.zip > > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and > NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are > the same as these: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md > > SHA1: 2a54b34a343fc720c5983d48ef41467163f1a6f0 > > KEYS file: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS > > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-vc2 : > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/9.0-vc2 > > Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the > rat-exclusions.txt file: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/ > master/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt > > Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/ > 328/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > > Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes > (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans): > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/incubating- > netbeans-java-9.0-bin.zip > > Also included as a convenience binary the NBMs: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc2/nbms > > New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy > > Release specific wiki page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Final+Release > > How (and what) to try out the release: > > 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it. > 2. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file > 3. Build it using the README provided by the artifact. > 4. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the > build process. > 5. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll be > prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms, and > (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac directly from JDK > 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing > to its licensing terms. > > If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up vote > +1 in this thread. > > Note that according to http://www.apache.org/legal/ > release-policy.html#release-approval : > > > Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to download all > > signed source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that they > meet > > all requirements of ASF policy on releases as described below, validate > all > > cryptographic signatures, compile as provided, and test the result on > their > > own platform. > > Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote! > > The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary number > of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached. > > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) > [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... > > Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an Apache > NetBeans PPMC member, i.e., your name is on this page: > http://home.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#netbeans , although > note the only real binding votes in t
Re: Stability of release90 branch and moving forward
+1 on releasing and also on the proposed release cycle. I also agree that if the Java 10 fix is ready then it should be added to this release. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 4, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Sounds great. > > A release cycle of February, May, August, November would be great, IMHO. > > Gj > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Sven Reimers > wrote: > >> Great for me >> >> Thanks >> >> -Sven >> >> Antonio schrieb am Di., 3. Juli 2018, 22:29: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I love the three month release plan. Anyway I think we should choose on >>> which exact month releases should be done. >>> >>> Maybe we want to release on february (not december nor january), so >>> maybe we could release on february / may / august / november? >>> >>> Before releasing I'd like to make a PR for the website with the most >>> important highlights, we could add those in the banners and in the >>> "news" section. I may get this done by this weekend. Does that fit the >>> timing? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Antonio >>> >>>> On 03/07/18 14:31, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> To keep the release90 stable -- and we haven't discussed this or made >> any >>>> decisions around this point -- we should be very careful about what we >>>> cherry pick from main to release90. >>>> >>>> The traditional NetBeans way of doing that would be to say that only >>>> blockers can be cherry picked. >>>> Right now we have two blockers, both of which can only be verified once >>> we >>>> have the first voting candidate, so in principle nothing can be moved >>> from >>>> main to release90 at this point: >>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308 >>>> >>>> Since we're planning to release more quickly after the netbeans90 >>> release, >>>> the fact that some things, i.e., some recent fixes, are not going to be >>> in >>>> release90 isn't a big problem since about 3 months after that we should >>>> have the next release. >>>> >>>> Just verified the status with Emilian and we're ready AFAIK for putting >>> the >>>> first voting candidate together based on what is in release90 right >> now. >>>> After that, we'll verify together, i.e., quick NetCAT check, community >>>> survey, PPMC vote, IPMC vote. >>>> >>>> Hope everything is clear, if not, let's say so and get it done. :-) >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
Re: Native macOS package (disk image)
+1 to native installer Josh Juneau http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jul 2, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > For starters we could have a disk image without the JDK and users will just > have to install Java before installing NetBeans. > > Signing of the installer would also be nice but it's not mandatory. Baby > steps. > > --emi > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > >> On 2 July 2018 1:34 PM, Paul Franz wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> One thing to remember is that the JDK needs to be embedded in the app. >> >> Also, macOS really should be signed. >> >> Paul Franz >> >> Senior Principal Applications Engineer >> >> Oracle Transportation Management >> >>> On 2 Jul 2018, at 4:32, Sven Reimers wrote: >>> >>> +1 for a native mac image.. >>> >>> -Sven >>> >>> Emilian Bold emilian.b...@protonmail.ch.invalid schrieb am Mo., 2. >>> >>> Juli >>> >>> 2018, 09:56: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I would like to have a convenience binary disk image for macOS. >>>> >>>> It's not very complicated to do once you have the zip contents. >>>> >>>> We also need a build slave with macOS I believe. I have an older mac >>>> >>>> with >>>> >>>> macOS Sierra (I think) that I could configure to run builds for >>>> >>>> NetBeans. >>>> >>>> That is, if Apache infra does not have macOS build slaves. >>>> >>>> So, do you agree on the need for macOS images? Who wants to help? >>>> >>>> Note that previously NetBeans had a macOS package. This is the more >>>> >>>> complicated and I could never get it to work. It seems to assume some >>>> >>>> Oracle infra stuff so we would need to tweak / rewrite that stuff. >>>> >>>> I have created >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D1018=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=puue2d_o5yamTtBgQ19IeW-l2XkMCUAVXy-B0321zXI=72RSiPFK7nH5yrFjjtvKaarPbLUJeJc2uVMoXiQEziM= >>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> track this. >>>> >>>> --emi >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>> >>>> dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=puue2d_o5yamTtBgQ19IeW-l2XkMCUAVXy-B0321zXI=jtS0dg4Llfuraf7vDROxSK9OXrs3WMuv3HXHKTMk1to= >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: A round of applause for Matthias!
Great work Matthias! The NetBeans community appreciates all of the effort. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:33 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > Hello, > > Maybe you haven't noticed but Matthias methodically worked on almost all > the > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+RC1 > license issues and is about done with the latest PR. > > A round of applause for Matthias! > > --emi > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: YouTube: Getting started with Apache NetBeans Platform
Nice work! Thanks for sharing. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jun 16, 2018, at 7:03 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Part 3: Run & Debug Apache NetBeans IDE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1F2FkhZfQM > > Part 4: Edit and Run Apache NetBeans IDE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv4osiFZDP0 > > Part 5: Debug the Sources of Apache NetBeans IDE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaGdctQWt_4 > > Thanks, > > Gj > > > >> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Kai Uwe Pel wrote: >> >> Very interesting! Thank you Geertjan! >> >> Best regards, >> Kai >> >> >> >>> On 6/16/2018 1:07 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This is for those interested in using Apache NetBeans as the basis of >>> their >>> own software, i.e., using Apache NetBeans as a Java desktop platform. >>> >>> There are also convenience binaries on netbeans.apache.org that you could >>> use, instead of building from the sources, though if you're involved in >>> the >>> Apache NetBeans project it makes most sense to use the sources since you >>> can then provide pull requests to fix bugs you encounter or to provide >>> enhancements. >>> >>> Part 1: Hello Apache NetBeans Platform >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8gQJknPaU >>> >>> Part 2: Debugging into the Apache NetBeans Platform >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufG7VE-u9s >>> >>> This is a community-driven YouTube series -- so, what should part 3 >>> consist >>> of (and who volunteers to make it)? :-) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >>
Re: NetBeans Build and the binaries-list hash
Thanks for the responses on this issue. Indeed, it is a bad idea to modify hashes...that is my reason for starting this thread. It sounds like there is an issue with my local maven repository. I will start by troubleshooting there to see if I can repair. Thanks for checking the jar file to troubleshoot the issue. I appreciate your time and responses. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jun 15, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Matthias Bläsing > wrote: > > Hi Josh, > > Am Freitag, den 15.06.2018, 10:41 -0500 schrieb Josh Juneau: >> Thanks for the responses. Yes, after I clone, I simply run ant. I >> just performed a new clone to test the issue again, and here is >> example of the hash update: >> >> Download of B9BBF5BF22E1B8603F312F6E02ABC6267996B38A- >> net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar produced content with hash >> BA6D811096540A6AA8C50131D9839F24BA130798 when >> B9BBF5BF22E1B8603F312F6E02ABC6267996B38A was expected >> >> In this case, I'd have to modify the binaries-list has to the >> expected hash and re-run the build. This occurs about 10 times, and >> then the build will complete successfully. >> >> If we are asking users to build from source, then I'd think that this >> manual hash update requirement should not be occurring. >> >> Thanks for your time and assistance...it is appreciated. > > this looks as if your local maven repository has broken artifacts. For > your sample the full entry in the binaries list is: > > 9BBF5BF22E1B8603F312F6E02ABC6267996B38A > org.netbeans.html:net.java.html.boot.fx:1.5.1 > > From the syntax the download tasks deduces, that it is a maven > coordinate and tries to download the artifact from maven central. This > leads here: > > http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/netbeans/html/net.java.html.boot.fx/1.5.1/ > > as no qualifier is specified, the unqualified jar is downloaded: > > http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/netbeans/html/net.java.html.boot.fx/1.5.1/net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar > > I checked the jar: > > matthias@athena:~$ wget > repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/netbeans/html/net.java.html.boot.fx/1.5.1/net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar > --2018-06-15 18:00:00-- > http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/netbeans/html/net.java.html.boot.fx/1.5.1/net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar > Auflösen des Hostnamens repo1.maven.org (repo1.maven.org)… 151.101.112.209 > Verbindungsaufbau zu repo1.maven.org (repo1.maven.org)|151.101.112.209|:80 … > verbunden. > HTTP-Anforderung gesendet, auf Antwort wird gewartet … 200 OK > Länge: 80886 (79K) [application/java-archive] > Wird in »net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar« gespeichert. > > net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar > 100%[==>] > 78,99K --.-KB/sin 0,05s > > 2018-06-15 18:00:00 (1,63 MB/s) - »net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar« > gespeichert [80886/80886] > > matthias@athena:~$ sha1sum net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar > b9bbf5bf22e1b8603f312f6e02abc6267996b38a net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar > matthias@athena:~$ > > > Ignoring casing, this agrees with my assessment. > > > HTH > > Matthias > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: NetBeans Build and the binaries-list hash
Hi Jan and Emilian, Thanks for the responses. Yes, after I clone, I simply run ant. I just performed a new clone to test the issue again, and here is example of the hash update: Download of B9BBF5BF22E1B8603F312F6E02ABC6267996B38A-net.java.html.boot.fx-1.5.1.jar produced content with hash BA6D811096540A6AA8C50131D9839F24BA130798 when B9BBF5BF22E1B8603F312F6E02ABC6267996B38A was expected In this case, I'd have to modify the binaries-list has to the expected hash and re-run the build. This occurs about 10 times, and then the build will complete successfully. If we are asking users to build from source, then I'd think that this manual hash update requirement should not be occurring. Thanks for your time and assistance...it is appreciated. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Jun 15, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote: > > Hi Josh, > > Do I understand correctly that you clone, and then simply run "ant"? Then > I'd expect no need to update any hashes (the correct dependencies should be > downloaded). Do you have an example where you had to change the hash? > > Thanks, >Jan > > >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Josh Juneau wrote: >> >> I am able to obtain and build the latest Apache NetBeans incubator sources >> and build, but not without first modifying the MD5 sums within a number of >> the binaries-list files to match those that are "expected". Is there a >> reason that these MD5 sums are not up-to-date if one attempts to build from >> the latest in the incubator? >> >> I'm going to write a short blog post on how to build from scratch, and I >> wanted to cover how to modify the MD5 sums to get the build to work >> correctly. However, this is a workaround and I'd rather not propagate a >> workaround if I don't have to do so. It also may bring security questions >> into the fold, and I don't want to go down that path. >> >> Thanks for your time, and great work on NetBeans 9.0! >> >> Josh Juneau >> juneau...@gmail.com >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: NetBeans celebrates 1.7 million active users
Excellent work! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On May 31, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > Yes, that's what we are trying to solve in > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-330 and I won't +1 GA voting > unless it's fixed. :) > > People can opt-out being counted if they set Check Interval for Automatically > Check for Updates option to "Never" and then do not check NetBeans Update > Center manually. > > And how we calculate the numbers? We collect Apache log files from all > download servers, parse them to extract entries when somebody downloaded > catalog.xml.gz file i.e. Update Center which is by default scheduled to > happen on a weekly basis and then store the records to database. Every GET > request sends unique ID identifying single NetBeans installation which we > then use to distinguish users from each other and if we identify the same ID > in the DB twice in a month we increment the counter of unique active users. :) > > -Jirka > > Dne 31.5.2018 v 18:53 Eirik Bakke napsal(a): > >> Those are some great stats. Does/will the Apache version of NetBeans still >> incorporate the telemetry that allows these statistics to be collected? >> How does it work? >> Does this exclude users that opted out of statistics collection? (Is there >> even such an option somewhere?) >> It would be great to have a way to keep gathering these numbers in the >> future. >> -- Eirik >>> On 5/31/18, 9:06 AM, "Jiří Kovalský" wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> do we want to promote this on our website? >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NetBeans_photos_a.438798692901609.1073741825.1158=DwIFBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=hHSEkQVuTk9TSh6mPZl_WZ6im1j7q4tirxz1fWfwGj8=2oqKpFOmdL_oSsjCd8FpJr4SeePhNeO6PQyX9LmHwQw= >>> 22851865863/1671584659623000 >>> >>> Please enjoy and share. :) >>> >>> -Jirka >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists=DwIFBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=hHSEkQVuTk9TSh6mPZl_WZ6im1j7q4tirxz1fWfwGj8=lQTKBZKJQD3GXspTT7yCK8LVtcR0K1LPk_21N6yDcz8= >>> >>> >>> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists=DwIFBA=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=hHSEkQVuTk9TSh6mPZl_WZ6im1j7q4tirxz1fWfwGj8=lQTKBZKJQD3GXspTT7yCK8LVtcR0K1LPk_21N6yDcz8= > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > >
Re: AW: Postgres JDBC driver
+1 to including a "Driver" plugin update center. It would be great if NetBeans could get away from packaging the drivers, as it freezes the release in time unless one decides to overwrite the JAR files that ship with the release. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:11 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > Must we really include these drivers out of the box? It seems like a > perfect candidate for an Apache-approved smaller plugin update center. > > We just publish these driver NBM wrappers in this plugin repository and > the IDE will just ask the user if he wants to grab the latest online module > for the database type they pick in some combobox GUI. > > Just an idea. > > --emi > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On 30 May 2018 9:51 AM, Christian Lenz wrote: > > > +1 for updating the PostgreSQL Driver. But this is not the only Driver > which is Kind of outdated, Right? Maybe all other Drivers, that NetBeans > uses should be updated, if they wasn’t > > > > Cheers > > > > Chris > > > > Von: Glenn Holmer > > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Mai 2018 22:15 > > > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > Betreff: Re: Postgres JDBC driver > > > > On 05/29/2018 02:33 PM, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > > > > > Am Dienstag, den 29.05.2018, 08:16 -0500 schrieb Glenn Holmer: > > > > > > > I'd like to work on this. I'll have lots of questions, but I want to > > > > > > > > learn the NetBeans internals. I'm studying "NetBeans Platform for > > > > > > > > Beginners" and the API docs on netbeans.org. > > > > > > > > I had a look at NETBEANS-170 (referenced by 870): > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-170 > > > > > > > > If Postgres is the last driver still bundled with NetBeans, are the > > > > > > > > above steps even worth the effort? > > > > > > Eirik already pointed out other drivers we might consider to bundle. > > > > > > Apache Derby would be another one. > > > > > > For the "add drivers" part it might be worth looking at the PR, that > > > > > > removed MySQL: > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/294 > > > > > > The changes that were done in db.drivers would need to be reversed for > > > > > > adding drivers. > > > > OK, I'll attack it from that direction, then. I'd already had a look at > > > > that PR. > > > > > > > - > > > > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > > > > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1
ted features of Apache NetBeans. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) is a full IDE for > Java > >>>>>> SE development. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Build artifacts available here: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/in > >>>>>> cubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The specific artifact to be voted on: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/in > >>>>>> cubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/incubating- > >>>>>> netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-source.zip > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and > >>>>>> NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, > which are > >>>>>> the same as these: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md > >>>>>> > >>>>>> SHA1: a1a265455c8246f849b14982fa3c36b351b21876 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> KEYS file: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-rc1-rc1: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/9.0-rc1-rc1 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the > >>>>>> rat-exclusions.txt file: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/ > >>>>>> nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/302 > >>>>>> /artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue > >>>>>> exists for solving this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting > >>>>>> purposes (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans): > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/in > >>>>>> cubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/incubating- > >>>>>> netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Also included as a convenience binary the NBMs: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/in > >>>>>> cubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/nbms > >>>>>> > >>>>>> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+ > >>>>>> NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Release specific wiki page: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+ > >>>>>> NetBeans+9.0+RC1 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How (and what) to try out the release: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it. > >>>>>> 2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact. > >>>>>> 3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation > >>>>>> created by the build process. > >>>>>> 4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK > 8) > >>>>>> you'll be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its > licensing > >>>>>> terms, and (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac > >>>>>> directly from JDK 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install > >>>>>> nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms. > >>>>>> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and > >>>>>> starts up, you will have a development environment that complies > with > >>>>>> Apache IP requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. > >>>>>> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, > >>>>>> and vote! > >>>>>> The vote is open for 7 days > >>>>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 > >>>>>> (incubating) > >>>>>> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with > the > >>>>>> release > >>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... > >>>>>> Emilian Bold > >>>>>> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.ap > >>>>> ache.org > >>>>> > >>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>>> > >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>> > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >>> > >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> > >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >> > >> > >> > >> > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: Developers on MacOS, please have a look at: [NETBEANS-438] Cannot Sign Platform app due to symlink (#440)]
I cannot find that Mac app either. I've built from source and it runs fine, but that "Platform" option does not exist in the build. I've left a comment within the issue tracker. Thanks On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:01 AM Paul Franz <paul.fr...@oracle.com> wrote: > Josh, >Thanks. There is a problem with the > incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip download. It does not contain the > MacOS app, so it makes it hard to test the change made to the Mac app. > > > -- > Paul Franz > Senior Principal Applications Engineer > Oracle Transportation Management > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 06:48:52AM -0500, Josh Juneau wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > > > Build artifacts available here: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dist.apache.org_repos_dist_dev_incubator_netbeans_incubating-2Dnetbeans-2Djava_incubating-2D9.0-2Drc1-2Drc1=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=qv0VkZ-XLAJVmYHON_k61UML69NXWiPdmj_urQ9KGrM=4MRvFl1x61AYV9qvY3zlN3M9c-79v79Sg11gCe4gnJY= > > > > The specific artifact to be voted on: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dist.apache.org_repos_dist_dev_incubator_netbeans_incubating-2Dnetbeans-2Djava_incubating-2D9.0-2Drc1-2Drc1_incubating-2Dnetbeans-2Djava-2D9.0-2Drc1-2Dsource.zip=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=qv0VkZ-XLAJVmYHON_k61UML69NXWiPdmj_urQ9KGrM=r29-mct0gWXnsA0vU-411jSF2tIDAfziaPwQPL9FbfM= > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 6:46 AM Paul Franz <paul.fr...@oracle.com> > wrote: > > > > > Dumb question here: Where can I get the build so that I can test it on > my > > > Mac? > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Franz > > > Senior Principal Applications Engineer > > > Oracle Transportation Management > > > > > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 06:16:19PM +0200, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > > > > Hello Mac Users, > > > > > > > > there is a PR regarding signing of netbeans platform applications on > > > > Mac OS. The PR is currently unreviewed, as proper testing requires > the > > > > platform. > > > > > > > > The issue: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D438=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=GhDghx1-ly9qqoArClXg3V5et7ZUwnuqgXuJeYhfmDk=u356y6pUqVjG5PHV6nHa9TmgbjpBsWUIhSIPXA8-h3Y= > > > > > > > > The PR: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_pull_440_files=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=GhDghx1-ly9qqoArClXg3V5et7ZUwnuqgXuJeYhfmDk=PgD-vReN-dJCnQ41K-p9bhifATfHWZlnfHGMzO-xZpI= > > > > > > > > It would be great if one of the Mac OS users could have a look at it. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > Weitergeleitete Nachricht > > > > Von: Laszlo Kishalmi <notificati...@github.com> > > > > Antwort an: apache/incubator-netbeans > <reply+002142984bf5b9c5495ceb0063 > > > > > 73b10630d9cfe423b16b2b92cf0001171a22bc92a169ce11fe11e1@reply.github > > > > .com> > > > > An: apache/incubator-netbeans <incubator-netbe...@noreply.github.com > > > > > > Kopie: Matthias Bläsing <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu>, Mention > <mention@n > > > > oreply.github.com> > > > > Betreff: Re: [apache/incubator-netbeans] [NETBEANS-438] Cannot Sign > > > > Platform app due to symlink (#440) > > > > Datum: Sun, 20 May 2018 23:01:32 -0700 > > > > > > > > This one is open for a while. Can somebody confirm that this works? > > > > — > > > > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > > > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > >
Re: Developers on MacOS, please have a look at: [NETBEANS-438] Cannot Sign Platform app due to symlink (#440)]
Hi Paul, Build artifacts available here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1 The specific artifact to be voted on: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-source.zip On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 6:46 AM Paul Franz <paul.fr...@oracle.com> wrote: > Dumb question here: Where can I get the build so that I can test it on my > Mac? > > -- > Paul Franz > Senior Principal Applications Engineer > Oracle Transportation Management > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 06:16:19PM +0200, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > > Hello Mac Users, > > > > there is a PR regarding signing of netbeans platform applications on > > Mac OS. The PR is currently unreviewed, as proper testing requires the > > platform. > > > > The issue: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D438=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=GhDghx1-ly9qqoArClXg3V5et7ZUwnuqgXuJeYhfmDk=u356y6pUqVjG5PHV6nHa9TmgbjpBsWUIhSIPXA8-h3Y= > > > > The PR: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_pull_440_files=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=GhDghx1-ly9qqoArClXg3V5et7ZUwnuqgXuJeYhfmDk=PgD-vReN-dJCnQ41K-p9bhifATfHWZlnfHGMzO-xZpI= > > > > It would be great if one of the Mac OS users could have a look at it. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Matthias > > > > > > Weitergeleitete Nachricht > > Von: Laszlo Kishalmi <notificati...@github.com> > > Antwort an: apache/incubator-netbeans <reply+002142984bf5b9c5495ceb0063 > > 73b10630d9cfe423b16b2b92cf0001171a22bc92a169ce11fe11e1@reply.github > > .com> > > An: apache/incubator-netbeans <incubator-netbe...@noreply.github.com> > > Kopie: Matthias Bläsing <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu>, Mention <mention@n > > oreply.github.com> > > Betreff: Re: [apache/incubator-netbeans] [NETBEANS-438] Cannot Sign > > Platform app due to symlink (#440) > > Datum: Sun, 20 May 2018 23:01:32 -0700 > > > > This one is open for a while. Can somebody confirm that this works? > > — > > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread. > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists=DwIDaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=FjvsW90PKoOYMVsj6ymexkCdiXoDvGSnRuj2IoGocmg=GhDghx1-ly9qqoArClXg3V5et7ZUwnuqgXuJeYhfmDk=tijBzzL9ASW3U0140TMmRR5eQM4TW5ez-v5RGF17RHw= > > > > > > > > --------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
Re: NB 9.0 Splash Screen
Love the new splash screen...great work! +1 Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:51 AM, Jiří Kovalský <jiri.koval...@oracle.com> wrote: > And the image I attached is here: http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/ > synergy/server/api/run_attachment.php?id=2 > > -Jirka > > Dne 21.5.2018 v 13:45 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a): > >> And I think that's what they already did. I prefer the lighter version - >> attached. >> >> -Jirka >> >> Dne 21.5.2018 v 11:21 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a): >> >> Hi David and Chris, >>> >>> Thanks for your great work. >>> >>> Could you tweak the text in the splash screen in the way discussed in >>> this >>> thread? >>> >>> That would move things forward. >>> >>> Thanks a lot, >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:18 AM, David Schulz <he...@raiken.de> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hello there, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> happy to see some progress :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__1drv.ms >>>> _f_s-21AvkEqMrGBsUyzc9551xr1QD-2D8vKGnA=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCX >>>> CgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ >>>> 2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=WB8bDmOfTJJ0jo04thN8ctZU-VAh81cg6Cr31 >>>> YDNr58=MI2m2Q_fRGmbW70gTAoyH4z-4I4HDh7pl-vE0BeTkxQ= >>>> >>>> Here you can find an export folder including both screens. >>>> >>>> But either way, I would love to test both screens on the actual NetBeans >>>> IDE. It would be cool if one of you can send me a screenshot from the >>>> latest build. To check if the splash screen fits I would love to map the >>>> splash screen on it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> uxactly <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__uxact. >>>> ly_=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE& >>>> r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=WB8bDmOfTJJ0 >>>> jo04thN8ctZU-VAh81cg6Cr31YDNr58=E9ACR3y2uB8KsE8wyZCF5haI0p >>>> rgI2fvpfysGBMsONI=> | raiken.de <https://urldefense.proofpoint >>>> .com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.raiken.studio_=DwIFaQ=RoP1 >>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh >>>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=WB8bDmOfTJJ0jo04thN8ctZU-VAh81cg >>>> 6Cr31YDNr58=4s5WK-WxqnQpfMYSmcoX-NwllcrRF5ImmqY-GUxlHcI=> >>>> system design thinking >>>> >>>> Kurfürstendamm 28 >>>> >>>> 10719 Berlin >>>> >>>> Tel: 0174 933 85 36 >>>> Mail: da...@uxact.ly >>>> Skype: rai...@live.de >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> LinkedIn <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www. >>>> linkedin.com_in_david-2Dschulz=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZY >>>> R8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40j >>>> nCU133NrdP4=WB8bDmOfTJJ0jo04thN8ctZU-VAh81cg6Cr31YDNr58= >>>> 0ifXZ-zSfZb9uDLblWHbLNkiTqCPQjSsjQt4E558ha4=> | Xing >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www. >>>> xing.com_profile_David-5FSchulz=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXC >>>> gaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2 >>>> xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=WB8bDmOfTJJ0jo04thN8ctZU-VAh81cg6Cr31Y >>>> DNr58=A3FwPHfGE9MrqXfq-4sJcYgO9ms7RI7RIMLGw-RZv0I=> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Von: *Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> >>>> *Gesendet: *Montag, 21. Mai 2018 09:41 >>>> *An: *dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Cc: *he...@raiken.de >>>> *Betreff: *NB 9.0 Splash Screen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> so as we have a release of NB 9.0 RC1 soon, we wanted to have a new >>>> Splash >>>> screen as a bit of a rebrand under Apache as we already have an awesome >>>> new >>>> logo. Unfortunately, there was no vote yet and I think, because we will >>>> have a release very soon, shall we go with this proposal
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1
Congrats on the great work! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On May 20, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Excellent. > > Gj > > On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> After being opened for more than 72 hours, the vote for releasing >> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1 [rc1] passed with 5 PPMC +1 votes, 5 >> non-PPMC +1s (from others on the Apache NetBeans mailing list), no 0 and >> one PPMC -1 vote. >> >> The -1 vote is for an issue that already has a PR with a fix available. >> >> Note that at this point only the IPMC votes are binding. So I am >> differentiating between PPMC votes (which will be binding, after we >> graduate) and non-PPMC votes. >> >> The link to the vote thread is >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e2 >> 2a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E >> >> PPMC +1 votes: >> >> Geertjan Wielenga >> Junichi Yamamoto >> Josh Juneau >> Jiří Kovalský >> Antonio Vieiro >> >> PPMC -1 votes: >> >> Leonardo Loch Zanivan >> >> Non-PPMC +1 votes: >> >> Enrico Olivelli >> Kai Uwe Pel >> Carl Mosca >> chegekinuthia >> Glenn Holmer >> >> Thanks to all who examined the release artifacts and voted. >> >> I will start a new thread for the IPMC vote. >> >> Thanks all, >> >> Emilian Bold >> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> >>
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1
+1 to releasing ... testing successfully with multiple Maven Web Application projects, deploying to Payara server. Environmental Details: *Product Version:* Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build incubator-netbeans-release-302-on-20180517) *Java:* 1.8.0_162; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.162-b12 *Runtime:* Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 1.8.0_162-b12 *System:* Mac OS X version 10.12.6 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_US (nb) Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> wrote: > Hi all, > > Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) rc1! > > If this voting passes, another similar voting will be started on > gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can release > this version. > > Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) constitutes all the modules in the > Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform > (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as all the modules > that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans. > > In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE > development. > > Build artifacts available here: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1 > > The specific artifact to be voted on: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/ > incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-source.zip > > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and > NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are > the same as these: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/README.md > > MD5: 75ac72983e074f159638a8da4cec6c8b > SHA1: a1a265455c8246f849b14982fa3c36b351b21876 > > KEYS file: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS > > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-rc1-rc1: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/9.0-rc1-rc1 > > Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the > rat-exclusions.txt file: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/ > master/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt > > Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files: > > https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/ > 302/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt > > The license files listed in the Rat report are known and an issue exists > for solving this: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-305 > > Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes > (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans): > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/ > incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip > > Also included as a convenience binary the NBMs: > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/ > incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/nbms > > New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy > > Release specific wiki page: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+RC1 > > How (and what) to try out the release: > > 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it. > 2. Build it using the README provided by the artifact. > 3. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the > build process. > 4. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll be > prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms, and > (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac directly from JDK > 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing > to its licensing terms. > > If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up, you > will have a development environment that complies with Apache IP > requirements and you should vote +1 in this thread. > > Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote! > > The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary number > of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached. > > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 RC1 (incubating) > [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... > > Please add "(binding)" if your vote is bindi
Re: Modules included in 2nd donation.
Excellent news! Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866 > On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > At the end of this page, look at 5e, i.e., that is the generic description > of what the 2nd code donation consists of: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition > > I.e., the clusters are listed there. > > We now have the ZIP file ready that contains those clusters, which have > been audited over the past months on the donation_review branch, i.e., here > you can see what's been removed/changed: > > https://hg.netbeans.org/releases/shortlog/donation_review > > Now that the ZIP file is ready, and we're working on the legal documents, > the exact content of the 2nd code donation in terms of the NetBeans modules > constituting the donation, are clearly defined. > > I.e., in short, be happy if you're interested in these areas of tooling: > - Java EE > - JavaScript > - Groovy > - PHP > > In detail, see the list of module names below that will be in the ZIP to be > donated to Apache, i.e., the below defines the 2nd code donation: > > api.knockout > api.web.webmodule > cloud.amazon > cloud.common > cordova > cordova.platforms > cordova.platforms.android > cordova.platforms.ios > el.lexer > extbrowser.chrome > glassfish.common > glassfish.eecommon > glassfish.javaee > glassfish.tooling > groovy.antproject > groovy.editor > groovy.grails > groovy.grailsproject > groovy.gsp > groovy.kit > groovy.refactoring > groovy.samples > groovy.support > hibernateweb > html.angular > html.knockout > html.ojet > hudson.php > ide.ergonomics > j2ee.ant > j2ee.api.ejbmodule > j2ee.clientproject > j2ee.common > j2ee.core > j2ee.dd > j2ee.dd.webservice > j2ee.ddloaders > j2ee.earproject > j2ee.ejbcore > j2ee.ejbjarproject > j2ee.ejbrefactoring > j2ee.ejbverification > j2ee.genericserver > j2ee.jboss4 > j2ee.kit > j2ee.platform > j2ee.sun.appsrv > j2ee.sun.dd > j2ee.sun.ddui > j2ee.weblogic9 > j2eeapis > j2eeserver > javaee.api > javaee.beanvalidation > javaee.project > javaee.resources > javaee.specs.support > javaee.wildfly > javaee7.api > javascript.bower > javascript.cdnjs > javascript.grunt > javascript.gulp > javascript.jstestdriver > javascript.karma > javascript.nodejs > javascript.v8debug > javascript.v8debug.ui > javascript2.doc > javascript2.editor > javascript2.extdoc > javascript2.extjs > javascript2.jade > javascript2.jquery > javascript2.jsdoc > javascript2.json > javascript2.kit > javascript2.knockout > javascript2.lexer > javascript2.model > javascript2.nodejs > javascript2.prototypejs > javascript2.react > javascript2.requirejs > javascript2.sdoc > javascript2.source.query > javascript2.types > jellytools.enterprise > jsp.lexer > ko4j.debugging > languages.apacheconf > languages.ini > languages.neon > lib.v8debug > libs.amazon > libs.commons_fileupload > libs.elimpl > libs.glassfish_logging > libs.groovy > libs.javacup > libs.jstestdriver > libs.jstl > libs.nashorn > libs.plist > maven.groovy > maven.j2ee > maven.jaxws > nbbuild > netserver > performance.ergonomics > performance.javaee > performance.scripting > performance.web > php.api.annotation > php.api.documentation > php.api.editor > php.api.executable > php.api.framework > php.api.phpmodule > php.api.templates > php.api.testing > php.apigen > php.atoum > php.code.analysis > php.codeception > php.composer > php.dbgp > php.doctrine2 > php.editor > php.kit > php.latte > php.nette.tester > php.nette2 > php.phing > php.phpdoc > php.phpdoc.documentation > php.phpunit > php.project > php.refactoring > php.samples > php.smarty > php.symfony > php.symfony2 > php.twig > php.zend > php.zend2 > profiler.j2ee > projectimport.eclipse.web > selenium2.php > selenium2.webclient > selenium2.webclient.mocha > selenium2.webclient.protractor > servletjspapi > spellchecker.bindings.php > spring.webmvc > tomcat5 > web.beans > web.client.kit > web.client.rest > web.client.samples > web.clientproject > web.clientproject.api > web.core > web.core.syntax > web.debug > web.el > web.freeform > web.inspect > web.javascript.debugger > web.jsf > web.jsf.editor > web.jsf.icefaces > web.jsf.kit > web.jsf.navigation > web.jsf.richfaces > web.jsf12 > web.jsf12ri > web.jsf20 > web
